The Daily Zeitgeist - Top Drunkest Countries, Oz: Real Doctor, Real PoS 12.06.21

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

In episode 1043, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and comedian Sam Morril to discuss Missouri GOP hates science so much they had to hide it from everyone, Who the Fuck is Dr. Oz?, The Annual Get Fu...cked Up Awards are here… and more! Missouri GOP hates science so much they had to hide it from everyone Who the Fuck is Dr. Oz? Dr. Oz Gave Dr. Oz Show Staff 15 Minutes’ Notice That He’s Quitting to Run for Senate in State Where He May Not Live The making of Dr. Oz Dr. Oz Hosts Joe Mercola On His Show. Does Oz Endorse Mercola's Anti-Vaccine Views? Dr. Oz touted Trump's Operation Warp Speed vaccine program in his US Senate campaign announcement The Annual Get Fucked Up Awards are here… LISTEN: Evermore by Dirty Art ClubVISIT: sammorril.com Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball
Starting point is 00:01:41 just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 214 episode one of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's monday december 6 2021 which i don't think i have to tell him do i miles
Starting point is 00:02:19 do we even have to tell him what day it is i I don't, I mean, it's to the point where it's not as if I even have to look it up. But I know you know, I think everybody knows that December 6th, right? We all know that's National Gazpacho Day. Yes. National Microwave Oven Day. Of course. National Miners Day, as in mining, not M-I-N-O-R-S. And National Pawn Brokers Day.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Damn. Fucking pawn brokers. All the greats. Yeah. All the greats. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Armand from Zite Lotus. One of the lookalikes from my days as a mustachioed gentleman that I liked the most. And I forgot to include it before.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So bringing it here. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Just feel that arm fat tingling, antibodies mingling through. Let's get vaxxed up together so we don't get Omicron 2. Okay, shout out to the bro
Starting point is 00:03:20 for that wonderful Slayeride Vaxxed collabo. Oh, and yes, the last one, I went afoul, used a bit of a slur for the last AKA. Should not have used the term in the other AKA referring to Inuit people, so apologies. People educated me on that, so now I know.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's about growth, but yes, apologies, but thank you for the education because we all need it. We're all growing. We're all learning here. we're all growing we're all learning here we're all growing well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious writer and stand-up who you've seen on colbert corden conan all the all the c names he was also the host of the emmy nominated people talking sports on MSG, which is just some real New York shit.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Please welcome the very funny, the very talented Sam Morrell! What's up, Sam? Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it. The energy, I need this. I'm on the road. Three coffees ain't enough. I need this, man.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, yeah. Right into the veins. Yeah. Sam, where are you coming to us from? I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah, I think I into the veins. Yeah. Sam, where are you coming to us from? I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah, I think I'm in a nice part of town. I just tried to get a haircut. My hair is getting long. I just tried to get a haircut. And I called the place right by me. And I was like, how much for a haircut? And the lady said $91. And I had to act like I wasn't horrified and I was like, wait, today? Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It was like, you mean today? I had to pull that. She's like, you asked me. Right. It's crazy. I'll have to wait for a $20 one in New York. I'll have to wait until I get back. Damn. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Charlotte with the expensive cuts. They were going to hit you with like a full shampoo, shower, like what? I assume. I mean, it's a lot, but no. Like what? I assume. I mean, it's a lot, but no, it's all weighed up.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But yeah, the club here is comedy zone. It's pretty cool. It's been a good time. So two more nights. Nice, man. I love that move. Or like you ask about something and it's way too expensive,
Starting point is 00:05:16 but you don't want to be like, God damn, I don't have that kind of money. So you're like, and that's just for a regular cut. Okay. Oh yeah. I was in Philly with-hmm, mm. And that's just for a regular cut? Okay. Oh yeah, I was in Philly with my friend Gary Veeder. We were walking around the
Starting point is 00:05:29 we just went to a clothing store and I was like, oh, this sway jacket's kind of, I said kind of nice, so I put it on. And then we look at the price tag and it was $1,200 and we just had to be like, let's just take one lap around so they don't think we're trash and one lap and we're out yeah oh only
Starting point is 00:05:46 1200 okay yeah oh i thought this was a higher quality suede uh apparently this is lowbrow nevermind corinthian suede sam you're you're normally from new york which not known for its like uh reasonable prices i guess mostly on rent though is it our haircuts like i i've i lived in new york for a little while i remember actually haircuts being pretty reasonably priced like 25 bucks well that's the thing about new york everyone thinks it's expensive and it is but there's so much you know there's so much competition that you have to you're not going to stay open if you're charging 45 for a haircut you give me one bad haircut i'm like i'm not going to stay open if you're charging 45 for a haircut. You give me one bad haircut. I'm like, I'm not going back to the $45 place, you know? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never like settled on
Starting point is 00:06:30 a single place to get my haircut when I lived in New York. And one time it was the day of the Superbowl. I was going to a Superbowl party. It took a lot longer than I expected. So I was kind of like, all right, let's, let's get it moving here. All right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna just leave. And I think he thought I was saying we're good here. Like I don't need you to continue the haircut because I showed up at home and my wife informed me that I had a long rat tail in the back. And then I just got, I got to show up to the Super Bowl party rocking that. And it was actually a lot of fun, but like you, you were Buccaneers fan. No, we, uh, I, I used to do that too. I would go to the, uh, to get a cheap haircut back in the day, I would go to the, uh, student
Starting point is 00:07:15 barbers downtown and the East village. And they just, some of them just did not give a crap. So you get a guy, I remember I got a guy, some guy goes lunch break and he goes, thank God. And he just left me like, I was like, all right, I guess, I guess this is my haircut now. so yeah you get a guy remember i got a guy some guy goes lunch break and he goes thank god and he just left me like i was like all right i guess i guess this is my haircut now yeah yeah that happens at the barbershop i remember yeah back when i had hair that i would pay to get cut that was always the fun of like when you get in the barber's chair and they would get a phone call and they're like hey hold up one second bro i gotta take this and they start having a full-on
Starting point is 00:07:43 fight with somebody on their cell phone on the street and you're like bro please i'm trying to make a fucking appointment in a second but yeah and you don't know if they're like woody harrelson and white men can't jump and they play better when they're angry or what they might be exactly they come back or they'll just be like edging you up like and be like fuck bro and you're like oh are you good at clarence yeah i'm good man i'm good man my girl's tripping man yeah and you're like wherever i go they always have the soccer game on which like it does not make you feel great that someone's holding something that sharp to your head with a goal like i'm a knicks fan if there was a game on i would not be given a good haircut you know it freaks me out a little bit i just sort of out of like you just
Starting point is 00:08:24 be completely unfocused on it you're like oh for sure yeah and also i mean a bad game you know it freaks me out a little bit i'm just sort of out of like you just be completely unfocused on it you're like oh for sure yeah and also i mean that's a bad game you know i don't know but uh yeah it's i it's you can tell it's not like the most important gig yeah if they're sporting event on yeah yeah you can quickly see priorities uh for sure come to the surface for sure yeah and one basket is not gonna usually like change someone's emotions that much in hoops but in soccer like that's that that's a it's a lot yeah one goal can be like i don't give a fuck man sorry i fucked up your hair but that was that was huge for me so i had an early joke in my act where i was like you can tell whatever music they're playing at uh the barbershop that's the haircut you're going to get.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And that would just be like Armenian hip hop. That's right here. We know. There it is. There it is. It doesn't matter your haircut. It gets a laugh no matter what. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Because no one knows what the hell Armenian hip hop is. Oh, I do. I'm from LA in the Valley, baby. Yeah. There's a lot of Armenian rappers out here. It would normally be shaved down. Shaved down. Yeah. Yeah. That's the Glend Armenian rappers out here. It would normally be shaved down. Shaved down. Yeah. Yeah. That's the Glendale Armenian rapper look for sure.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I do. So haircuts and I think nails are two of the things that actually the price goes down when you live in a city, whereas everything else is more expensive. But there's got to be like, I'm sure economists have like come up with the name for that, but cool, man. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. The Missouri Republican Party does not like science. We're going to, we're going to look at that. It's a good time. Their timing is good to just, you know just give up on science. So we're going to look at how they are sharing that viewpoint with the world. We're going to talk about, we're going to ask and answer the question, who the fuck is Dr. Oz?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Why does he believe that he is the best person to be a senator in Pennsylvania where his in-laws are from? Apparently. We're going to check in with the annual get fucked up awards. We're going to talk about all of that. Plenty more. But first, Sam, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? You know what?
Starting point is 00:10:36 This is a bad one, but it's for a joke. I should preface it was for a joke. Okay. Epstein's plane. Uh-huh. Lolita Express. It was for a bit i was working on because of the maxwell trial so i needed a bit but uh i wanted to give context to that yeah right just
Starting point is 00:10:53 being like how cool was this plane how baller was the lolita express yeah how much are these flight logs getting out there like if somebody took like two three flights on it is it a big deal or what well dude i'm on i'm at the comedy zone in charlotte and in a couple weeks it's chris tucker and it's like you might know him from money talks friday and uh epstein's plane apparently flight logs i was a huge chris tucker fan growing up i mean yeah to me money talks like that was as a kid i saw that in the theater theater three times. Dude, Vic Damone Jr.? Oh, my God. He's so funny in that movie.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I love that shit. This is Vic Damone's kid. Rush Hour. I love Chris Tucker. Oh, the best. Friday, yeah. Friday was classic. That flight was to be with Bill Clinton in South Africa or something.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Oh, yeah. But he got brought up, I think, like somebody that the pilot recognized i don't want to i don't want to put that out there well that's that's the one time i guess being recognizable worship because i'm sure there's a bunch of people that people will be like who but that's uh right you know uh and even there was even like a quote with a pilot system like i didn't see anything that weird and it was one quote and you're like well if you saw bill clinton that's weird yeah like just just me seeing bill clinton on a commercial flight that's like one of my best stories in my life right yeah you saw him on a private jet right for a weird for you pilot person
Starting point is 00:12:16 i think we might what we might not be using having the same definition that's right you probably you you run private jets so you probably jaded as hell by celebrities at a certain point yeah i mean he was epstein's like main dude like epstein paid for his children's college tuition and like bought his home so he was he was not just like an average jet pilot he was sure like his his whole claim that like I'd never saw a underage woman without her parents. I'm going to I'm going to say I'm slightly skeptical. I'm going to I'm going to say there might be at least a single Pinocchio that might be awarded to that claim. Right. That's got to be a weird life.
Starting point is 00:12:59 They had the maid testify, too. And you're like, what? I mean, the shit they these poor people have seen. You're just like, Jesus christ right yeah you just think you're gonna like clean some billionaires home then you see like a topless 22 year old and you're like all right this might be uh a lot i don't know yeah the the advice that the advice the maid was told or i guess orders job description was see nothing hear nothing say nothing yeah which you can avert your gaze but you can't really avert your ears memory yeah memory uh like i don't know how they just they should they should give these people you know noise canceling headphones that's
Starting point is 00:13:40 that's my main note for jeffrey. Look at Jack sticking up for the laborers of Jeffrey Epstein. Give him at least noise-canceling headphones, you animals. That would also be like, if you were going to make a movie where somebody's a creep, that would be a good little
Starting point is 00:13:59 specific to have in there is everybody who works in the house has noise-canceling headphones on the whole time. i've always said bows i've always said bows should like get in on that like that's not the only advertise you can do like uh right you know i tried to joke once it never really worked where i said uh you think anyone on 9-11 had noise canceling headphones and they were the last to know right and uh because that's to me that's a good bows commercial the ad is how could you never forget if you never really knew you know that's the uh yeah we can see why it didn't work i think it's funny i think that's gold man i don't know you gave up on that one too soon we'll give it
Starting point is 00:14:34 a shot tonight we'll bring it back yeah yeah you inspired me when people were saying too soon loudly they were saying you were giving up on this one too soon. You should keep workshopping it. What is something you think is overrated, Sam? Here's what I think is overrated is saying yes to too many things. Some people will tell you like, you got to live, you got to do everything, you got to say yes to everything. I say yes to so much stuff I should say no to. And saying no is turned into one of the greatest joys of my life is just being like no i uh it feels good i did uh i was supposed to do some gig and they were like you gotta fly in a day early for radio and i was like no and they were like you have to and i was like no and then
Starting point is 00:15:17 they were like it's very important for the gig and i was like okay and then the day before i was like no what are you gonna? Book a new comedian? No. And they were like, alright. It felt great. Underrated saying no. Yeah. But morning radio, you missed out. Those are the best parts of being a stand-up, right? Didn't you get into it for
Starting point is 00:15:38 getting on those morning... Waking up at 4.30? I used to purposely tank morning show spots just so they would never have me back. I would go in and say horrible shit on air. In Pittsburgh, they stopped booking comedians.
Starting point is 00:15:54 If you're playing the Pittsburgh improv and you don't have to do morning TV, you're welcome. That's because of me. That's because I did that 9-11 joke over there. They didn't like it. The incentive structure for those doesn't really make sense. We produce a podcast, This Is Important, with the guys from Workaholics and Blake, the guy with the long hair. They were talking about this legendary appearance that he had where he was booked on a local news show
Starting point is 00:16:23 the morning after the Warriors which is his like favorite nba team won the championship and he was just like so hung over and accidentally said fuck like three times but like that's the best thing possible for his career for the show he's promoting because then it goes viral and like the only people who it's bad for are the people who are like booking him and dealing with the complaints from the fcc or whatever and you're and they also like there are all these fines and i'm like but are there really i remember i did a morning show once and i i was hung over and i was tired it was like a radio show and i i accidentally told a story about getting a hand job in a town car and they went to break and they go, you could have gotten us fine.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Two hundred thousand dollars in every market. And I'm like, OK, so I just cost you two point five, two point six million. That story. Yeah, right. Shut up. Yeah, it's not that big a deal. Yeah. They were like, if anyone listened to our show. Right. And I like I remember when I worked in radio, sometimes rappers would come on freestyle and start forgetting they're on the radio. But there's a button, you know, to just dump it. Just to be like, nope.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Because there's a little bit of a delay just for that. But I remember they would always be like, yo, I'm sorry. And the host would be like, it's all good, bro. Don't worry about it. No one really cares. So based off. So we had very different versions of me seeing a situation where someone was like, yo, and I fuck blah, blah, blah. And you're like, oh, shit. It's even then the reaction seemed to be it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But I don't know. It's not a big deal. He fucked blah, blah, blah from Arrested Development. All right. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Everything bagel seasoning. Yeah. Very specific.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Everything at Trader Joe's right now. I love it, dude. I put it on so much stuff. I mean, I'll make, you know, I'll make my girlfriend like avocado toast. And I started throwing that on there. Yeah. Blew a mind. She was like, what the hell is this?
Starting point is 00:18:23 And I was like, you know what I mean? This is the perks of dating a Jew. You get so many things I'll open your eyes to culturally. She's like, how about some more of that whitefish salad? Yes. I love that. Dude, I shot the opening of one of my specials
Starting point is 00:18:40 at Barney Greengrass. I don't mess around. I did. I did a sketch in the opening. Legendary New York Jewish type deli food. Great, great spot Upper West Side. Yeah, I was just I walked by there. It was too crowded, so I went to Essa Bagel and then
Starting point is 00:18:56 finished my trip at Russ and Daughters. You know, you gotta do that. I've got at Trader Joe's, right? Are you getting it at Trader Joe's? Because I feel like that's where I started to see a lot more everything bagel type of shit but they have everything bagel potato chips that I was like okay let me let me fuck around really quick and it was it wasn't bad I'm not gonna lie it was a little too salty for my taste but having that flavor on a chip was a bit of a an experience they're getting a little reckless with the chip flavors.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah. I see dill pickle and I'm like, I've got to be hammered to get dill pickle potato chips. You know, like I'm sure it's fine. But like, right. Even like pepperoncini. I'm like, what are we doing here, guys? Like, let's just have some chips. Let's just sour cream and onion.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Sour cream and onion, barbecue, salt and vinegar. We're doing the classics and classics for, it's like when you go to a bar and they have these crazy cocktails and you're like, you're getting a cocktail, you're going to get a classic cocktail. Let's be real. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's like something where it's like, Oh, we use passion fruit foam on the outs. I'm like, I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:20:00 it's 23 bucks. I know. You better. If you're going to make like, like if i'm gonna get some like cocktail i'm gonna get like a manhattan or a grony i'm just getting something classic unless they're like something you know you gotta have this right it kills me at some of these comedy clubs i'm like can i get a negroni they're like oh we don't have uh the ingredients i'm like well i see you know how to make a yellow gummy bear over here you can't make a negroni right right yeah classics the yellow
Starting point is 00:20:28 gummy bear the manhattan you know all the great first in all the bartending arts yeah all right sam let's take a quick break we'll be right back to talk about some news I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. have followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties
Starting point is 00:22:13 you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's
Starting point is 00:23:04 basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. This summer, the nation
Starting point is 00:23:51 watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of this right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent, revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange
Starting point is 00:24:36 and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And, you know, we've seen a general trend that is getting, seems like it's getting more popular in the country
Starting point is 00:25:04 where people are getting tired of the mask mandates. In this country, I should say, in particular, not around the world. People have generally gotten their mind around masks across the globe. But in America, they're pissed, man. Even as we have this new strain, this new flavor of coronavirus breaking out, people are still not having it. Yeah. I mean, it's been one of those things that just, you know, people act like they're wearing some kind of fucking death shroud when it's just like such a small thing you can do for your own safety and, you know, just consider it for other people. But in Missouri specifically,
Starting point is 00:25:40 their governor, Mike Parsons, he's just been one of these governors been like man masks are just so bad i believe that everyone should make their own health decisions unless it has to do with reproductive health right but other than that do what you feel is right and he's long argued that stuff would just be like you know i'm just not convinced by the science okay about the math stuff just it doesn't really add up for me when i hear about all this efficacy stuff despite the fucking numerous studies out there that you know all world governments are being like yeah this seems like a first step to ensure people's safety yeah but you can't trust world governments you got to do your own you got to do your own research that's what i keep telling people you got to do your own research i've noticed uh i've
Starting point is 00:26:24 noticed that places with really good barbecue or they don't have great views on women's reproductive rights. You know what I mean? Yeah, Kansas City, Missouri. If you call dinner supper, you are against a woman's right to choose, most likely. But I will say, no, I've been to Missouri three times this year. I've done Kansas City. I've done Springfield, Missouri. I've done St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:26:45 The mass situation's a little, you know, it makes me nervous for sure. Because, look, I'm triple vax. I don't know the hell I haven't gotten COVID yet just being on the road. I'm pretty cautious. But it is pretty crazy. You see, certain cities, like Springfield, Missouri especially, I was kind of like, you're old. You should be scared. I should be less scared than you. Right, right, right. And they're like, hey, man, I was kind of like, you're old. You should be scared. I should be less scared than you.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Right, right, right. And they're like, hey, man, take a selfie with me. Let me get real close. Coffee in my mouth. But yeah, like, so the governor ordered the state's health department, said, you know what? Look up the data then, the data that y'all are talking about. And just, you know, let's see how well the masks, you know, or how negatively it may have affected transmission. And I think he figured that they would come back with a study that said it didn't work at all.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Libs, so eat shit or something like that. Well, the stick was from the Missouri Independent. Quote, the statewide data shows that from the end of April to the end of October. And this is basically through the height of the Delta spike or surge that was going on in the state, that jurisdictions with mask mandates experienced an average of 15.8 cases per day for every 100,000 residents compared to 21.7 cases per day for every 100,000 residents in unmasked counties. So they're like, oh, huh. And like, they just show like two, there's like, there's a very clear graph. It's like, here's the places that did it. And here's the ones that did the ones that didn't just had more transmission as a result. And, you know, I think this was something that most people accepted as just common sense in
Starting point is 00:28:15 general, like that having something over your mouth and nose while you're exhaling or inhaling will probably just cut down on the number of particles and things that you're exhaling. probably just cut down on the number of particles and things that you're exhaling. So I do just want to say that. So the numbers are 15.8 per day where there is a mask mandate, 21.7 cases per day for every 100,000 for residents in unmasked communities. But like the masked communities are also in a state that has a leader who is like, don't wear masks, masks are bullshit, and the general consensus around them. So I'm sure that's not even as low as you could go if you were in a community where the leadership was like, listen to scientists, I guess? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Because really it was like Kansas City and St. Louis were sort of the outliers in the state that had mask mandates and as a result you know the state attorney general in missouri is like we're gonna fucking sue the city of st louis for doing this and they did but the thing is when the governor got this this data set the analysis like this data was not released to anybody like Like they hid that shit. It wasn't included. This is from the Missouri Independent again. And the Missouri Independent only got their hands on it because they did like a, you know, sort of like a FOIA request for it.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And they said the analysis wasn't included in material the department prepared for cabinet meetings. The email show neither the health department nor Parsons office responded to requests for comment asking why the data has not been shared publicly because that would show that they were wrong but again with this one attorney like these this attorney general that was suing like the city of st louis when they were asked about like hey man this data shows that like masks work like what what do you have to say a spokesperson from the attorney general's office said quote we dispute this premise and these charts. We've been clear that Missourians should have the right to make their own decisions and that government bureaucrats shouldn't be mandating masks or vaccines.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We will continue to fiercely litigate our lawsuits against mask mandates in Missouri. I know you can also make your own decisions, but like you should not be persuading people not to do it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't understand what I understand is like, sure. You're sick of the mass. I get it. We're all sick of them. It's annoying. No, you can't act like it's not annoying, but you do it because it's just the right thing to do for now. You know what I mean? It's one of those things with like, uh, it's, it's bad for business like you go to these places and they've turned into like your your rights rather than like a safety concern and you're like well you fucking know why you have to wear it right don't make this why are you politicizing something this bad it's it's completely irresponsible yeah it really we were saying earlier last week that it felt like it feels like the Republicans are coming
Starting point is 00:31:05 out more and more as a pro pandemic party. Like they're like in favor of the pandemic, which is just a, an odd decision. I feel like they painted themselves into that corner, but like, I can't imagine that many Republican political strategists are happy with like where, where they find themselves. Well, I'm some,'m someone who's voted Democrat, and I think every election in my lifetime, but you know, Democrats also Republicans have done a much better job at relating to the working class and shutdowns. I mean, as someone who plays all these clubs, and have seen how much, you know, bars and restaurants have struggled through the pandemic, the Democrats really don't understand that they're messing with people's livelihoods when airlines are bailed out and when hotels are bailed out. But when it's so fucking hard for like, you know, mom and pop places to get a PPP
Starting point is 00:31:53 loan or whatever. I mean, I think that's really where the right and left need to come together, you know? Right. Well, it might be tough on that one, given the state of things. But yeah, it's true. Like I think just in general, Democrats are not even trying to connect, like how all of this helps for people's just outcomes, like in terms of, hey, if we slow the pandemic down, then it won't negatively affect businesses as much as much or your your livelihood. But if we keep doing all this start stop shit, it doesn't help. And on top of that, I think taking away people's unemployment benefits, too, is like such a wildly unpopular thing to do. But yet they did it. So, yeah, it's. Well, no one wants to do these server jobs anymore. No one wants to. No one wants to be a waiter anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:38 You know, you see what you can make on unemployment and you're like, well, I'd rather pursue whatever dream I have part time. Right. Then then do this server job so you know everywhere you go now is understaffed and and they really just need to raise yeah the price of food in the restaurants and pay servers more yeah because i mean yeah because like restaurants and bars are you're on like razor thin margins and things like that so on some level yeah if that's what it takes or I appreciate when places are like, look, we're just folding in a tip like to the cost of your bill because that's how we
Starting point is 00:33:10 give our employees health insurance. So make it easier for you to patronize our business. Yeah. Well, speaking of patronize, let's talk about Dr. Oz because this is America's doctor. He likes to explain our health to us with the benefit of metaphors like the vagina is a self-cleaning oven or visuals like a vagina that his guests could walk through. Those are the ones that stick out. He doesn't only talk about vaginas, but those are the episodes that stick out in my memory. Recently, he loves hydroxychloroquine out in my memory. Recently, you know, I don't know. He loves hydroxychloroquine, though, too. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:33:48 He's a doctor who is saying that. Yeah, he made an announcement via an op nominee for the Senate race in Pennsylvania, specifically because of the pandemic, saying when you mix politics and medicine, you get politics instead of solutions. And Washington took away our freedom without making us safer. So I could see if there was a doctor who was really good at communicating actual medical facts to people which is i think like part of why oprah had him on in the first place is like what he was the promise of dr oz was supposed to be that like he's a respected doctor who can also communicate with the masses
Starting point is 00:34:40 but unfortunately like hidden in there was just this fame hungry whatever it takes to get more people to pay attention to me character that it's worth taking a look at like what this dude actually how he actually operates because i was going to say what he actually believes but he doesn't appear to believe anything other than that people should be paying attention to him yeah he's like a rock star surgeon that guy he's like it to him yeah he's like he's like a rock star surgeon that guy he's like it's so weird like i know he's a real doctor but i do kind of look at him as a doctor the way i look at keanu reeves and as an assassin like i know you put in work to make this look good but like i don't it's like it's like what what business do you have in
Starting point is 00:35:21 politics i just think like you know it's like you push the neti pot on us thank you for that for the neti pot that's great and you're sick but it's like you know who gives a shit like he does have like a little bit of tom cruise in him if you watch oh you're like yeah you're a doctor the way he did his own stunts in mission impossible like he's got that vibe that i kind of like what do you, I don't trust alternative medicine people. Like, I know he's a real doctor, but he does do that. Like, they always have stories of like, you know, like, sure you've got COVID, but it could also be treated with, uh, you know, echinacea and turkey tail.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So I don't, I don't trust it. Yeah. I mean, he's literally said things like you should try a lavender soap if you have restless leg syndrome. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, it okay what is very nice but you know it's pleasant so he is actually a legit doctor an accomplished surgeon i should say so like surgeons are the mechanics of like doctors they are the ones who like from jump street and medical, like decide not to ever really interact with patients. But he's a celebrity surgeon. Like he would show up like once a week.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Like he wasn't doing like a lot of reps. He was doing, he was like, like when you see a celebrity at the comedy cellar, you're like, that's Dr. Oz. You're like, why weren't they that funny?
Starting point is 00:36:39 I'm like, cause they're shooting movies. That's why they're not good at the other shit. Right, right, right. So he, like back in the day before he was a tv surgeon he won awards for his research holds 11 patents for inventing methods and devices involved in heart surgeries and transplants and he was also
Starting point is 00:36:57 interested in alternative medicine even before it was a tv thing and there there are plenty of like really good doctors who are interested in alternative medicine. And one of them that he co-founded this center with says they were just constantly fighting with Oz over his inappropriate marketing of their unproven methods. He said, it's one thing to experiment with alternative techniques that could potentially be helpful. It's another thing to claim that they work with no justification in order to help your career and one of the center's employees claimed that it wasn't actually about helping people but it was all about boosting oz's celebrity she remembers that oz would say things like give me a patient because the cameras are coming in and tell me
Starting point is 00:37:38 what i need to know like if you look this gentleman here is suffering from terrible joint pain it's like no i can't see yeah it's your fucking eyes but yeah it's uh that whole thing especially hearing that the people that worked for him are like yeah he's more just into pushing stuff even if it doesn't fucking work just because that gets people to be like oh shit he's saying something i want to hear and then you realize like that's sort of like his you know his guiding principle through his entire career is like yeah man if i have to say some like wild shit that will just get people kind of excited then i'll fuck it i'll say whatever the fuck i got to yeah you know he's he's an entertainer i mean i mean you could tell he's an entertainer because trump fucking loves him but i
Starting point is 00:38:24 mean it is weird the camera thing like and those people who those alternative medicine people never they always have a story they always have a story it's always like you know the politicians like i met an 18 year old yeah and he was a star athlete and he was vaccinated and after getting vaccinated he pooped himself to death and you're like all right but this doesn't sound real this sounds like you're just trying to google me on something yeah google it you can or search it on facebook i guarantee you'll find some research that backs it up he trademarked the term america's doctor and just became known for making spurious medical claims on his show and platforming guests with anti-scientific viewpoints. He shared the stage with vaccine deniers, activists like the Food Babe, who I was not familiar with prior to J.M. putting this research in front of us.
Starting point is 00:39:20 But she's apparently the Jenny McCarthy of food. What a weird title where you're like oh what do you do i'm the jenny mccarthy of food right okay cool what does that mean i i say a lot of wrong stuff remember when jenny mccarthy was doing comedy right remember when remember we were like jenny mccarthy i mean thank god i wasn't a comedian in the 90s imagine trying to sell a sketch show and they're like, we're going with Jenny McCarthy. Right. You know the chick who's naked all the time?
Starting point is 00:39:50 She got the sketch show over you. From Singled Out? Yeah. Yeah, from Singled Out. Have you seen her? She does all these crazy faces and stuff. She's real expressive, man. That's what she would do.
Starting point is 00:40:00 She was kind of like doing a poor man's Jerry Lewis type thing. Right, right, right. She's funny. I'm like, nah, you're right. She's just making faces. That was her thing. She was kind of like doing like a poor man's Jerry Lewis type thing. Right, right. She's funny. I'm like, no, you're right. She's just making faces. That was very expressive. She'd be like, and then like lick a guy's face. And then you're like, oh, my God, Jenny McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:40:15 She's got it. It's pretty wild that she ended up with Jim Carrey for a period because they're both very like at the top of the facial expression based comedy that must have been pretty hard fake laughing at those jokes so you know jim got tired he was like look i'm used to contorting my face but this is brutal come on he's like to to actually have to pretend to smile and enjoy as a skill actually i haven't developed enough yeah so in 2014 people are thinking that maybe his current Senate bid, this might be his Obama roasting Trump moment, the thing where he was like, all right, now I'm serious and I'm going to make all these people pay. He was grilled by the Senate Subcommittee
Starting point is 00:40:58 on Consumer Protection, Product Safety, and Insurance during a hearing on false advertising in the diet and weight loss industry. He defended himself using computer printouts of online studies and transcripts from his own TV show. And yeah, following that, 10 prominent physicians penned a letter to the dean of Columbia suggesting that Oz be removed from the faculty for having repeatedly shown disdain for science. But as far as I can tell, they didn't. He's still a big name at Columbia, which again, I feel like there is this understanding that all academic institutions are wildly leftist. And I you know stanford and some of the highly respected ones fucking harvard used to have larry summers as their president like
Starting point is 00:41:53 they're a lot further to the right than people think and that's what's all about money right yeah exactly i mean i'm sure he makes donations i'm sure he gets donations like having a celebrity there i mean it's all about the dough yeah he he appears for a fundraiser and then suddenly like yeah it's good to have him around i mean and this is the same issue that's sort of like happening at ucsb with that gigantic dorm hall that the that like warren buffett's like 90 year old right hand man like designed and like it's gotten even worse this week because he's like out here saying stuff like these architects don't know what they're talking about. They're like, sir, I'm an actual architect. You're a billionaire who dabbles with pictures and you're you're you're proposing a building where 94 percent of the residents won't have windows.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And you think that's going to be a good environment. And it's the same thing where UCSB has been like yeah but the thing is like gifts typically come with these kinds of like restrictions on it so we might have to put kids in a cramped you know whatever you want to call it prison block yeah so oz responded to that letter written by the 10 prominent physicians from columbia by dedicating an entire episode of of his show to picking apart their qualifications and professional interests trump yeah it's straight trump shit and he also i had forgotten this because like like so much of just by like sheer physics of the size of a human brain i I've had to memory hole so much of the shit that went on during the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But Trump went on the Dr. Oz show in 2016, and most presidential candidates released their medical records. He had not up to that point. And then he appeared on the show and handed Oz two crumpled papers from his pocket as evidence of and oz oz was like oh yeah look look at these these look really comprehensive like it was just straight up like bullshit theater oh yeah wow yeah wow you are wow are you sure you're not a horse because that's how healthy you are mr trump okay yeah just going by the uh ivermectin that's why i think you're a horse yeah but uh hydrochlor whatever but uh he uh yeah trump i mean it was crazy the amount of i mean we forget snl the fallon uh hair rob i mean some of those are gonna go those are gonna be in history books yeah yeah exactly the road to normalization for sure but yeah it's interesting again like we
Starting point is 00:44:24 were talking about this last week of like how him and trump are just so similar because they've benefited from this i this i guess perception that merely being on television and saying you're like you're a doctor or a rich person that most of the viewing public is like that's true that's infallible and this person's an expert and we should all listen to them because they're on TV and they're handsome. He's going to have to beat Bobby Flay for the position. No, it's really amazing. But you're right. Being having name recognition and being having a big following. I mean, like think about so many of these presidents in the primary, it's really just like building their social media page. You're just like, wait, Pete Buttigieg. And then you're like, oh yeah, Pete Buttigieg, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:08 it takes a minute to, for them to be recognizable and have the, you know, the name recognition, you know, sometimes it hurts you in New York, I guess it hurt Andrew Yang a little bit. Cause we were like, yeah, we know we don't, we're not on board, but if you're a celebrity, you're, that means you're good on camera. And what are the, where are these debates? You know, I mean, you riffing Trump really did change something where they got really sick of seeing preplanned speeches and Trump, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:35 he is good off the cuff. He had that on people. Yeah. He was just, he just was like, even though what he said, like when you actually looked at the words on paper, you're like,
Starting point is 00:45:44 he actually didn't fucking say anything, he never blake and that's great but here's the thing what people don't understand people like oh shit this guy's spitting straight facts i'm like he just talked in a circle for three minutes yeah but you know i still remember when trump basically just called carly furino ugly on a on a ugly on a debate. And she had that one soundbite where she was like, I think the American people hear him loud and clear and everyone applauded. I was like, wow, I guess you got him. Cut to a day later, like Trump's doing better than ever.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I was like, well, Americans really hate women. This is crazy. Yeah, I think we all learned that in 2016. Just to kind of complete the rundown of like where he's at these days post his being challenged on his bullshit medical advice in Congress, he has, during the pandemic, advocated reopening schools in April of 2020, which you may remember as being entirely too early to do that. But he said that it would only kill an extra two to three
Starting point is 00:46:47 percent of kids, which is pretty. Wow. And that's just from the mass shootings. Right. Yeah, exactly. He's been a vocal advocate for hydroxychloroquine on Fox News. He has supported the COVID vaccine, but mostly it's to give Trump credit for inventing mRNA vaccines, which actually date back to the 60s. In a statement, he said, although we had some moments of brilliance, such as the gift to the world of mRNA vaccines made possible by President Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed, and then he's had on his show anti-vaxxer guests like Joe Merkula and Robert Kennedy Jr. So he's a big part of the cause of the mess we're in. He's not a solution to it, but, you know, he's going to probably be pretty successful at pitching himself as a solution because TV.
Starting point is 00:47:41 We'll see. I mean, people have already come out and be like, we're going to put the smash on him. I forget who he's running against, but people are pretty motivated against him. But hey, that's the thing about TV. That's what we'll see, the strength of his celebrity in that race. Yeah, we all made the mistake of saying, well, Trump will be out next
Starting point is 00:47:57 week. I mean, after Trump, really, I wouldn't be surprised. It is weird who is risen as anti-vaxxers. Like Eric, you're like Eric Clapton. What the hell? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I miss the good old days when the worst thing he did was, uh, was just steal his best friend's wife. Right. But, but it's crazy that you're like, that's just his Twitter. It's just like a rock legend being like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 this is, this is like the Holocaust. And you're like, Oh my God, what the hell? Yeah. I mean, I still love Layla, but this is, this is like the holocaust right oh my god what the hell yeah i mean i still love layla but this is this is brutal damn old love is not gonna sound the same have you guys watched the beatles documentary at all i haven't no i watched i watched uh about the first hour or so yeah me too
Starting point is 00:48:39 it's tough it's like it's kind of because it's like it's, but it's also like a podcast where they don't know to record it. It's a little tough. I love Peter Jackson. I love what he did with that war movie he made. That was incredible. Lord of the Rings? Oh, what was the name?
Starting point is 00:49:00 The one where he colored the World War II. He's so talented but it was just interesting the uh to like george harrison is like so just openly like insecure it's really amazing he's like clapton's really good like i'm not that good and then like clapton stole his wife later like that's i love george too. It's so, like, realize how good George was. I mean, it's, like, crazy that he was, like, their third option. It's, like, it is like Clay Thompson on the Warriors,
Starting point is 00:49:34 where you're like, this is not fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, he's about to come off the bench? Yeah. Watch this. He made 18 straight threes in practice yeah a lot of people are like this this is like giving paul mccartney is like do and like he's definitely like you you see he's like a songwriting genius but it also has made me not like him because of like how he treats like
Starting point is 00:50:00 george and ringo he's just like so fucking dismissive of them he's just like yeah i mean we could probably like get a different drummer in here right yeah yeah poor ringo man yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about some bullshit i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:54:20 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's that time of year once again, the Global Drug Survey that pulls people around the world about their substance consumption, otherwise known as the annual Get Fucked Up Awards. Where's everybody coming in? Well, this is like a survey of just all over many countries. I think in total, something like 30 some thousand people participated in this survey. And even they say they're like, look, this isn't to say that this is exactly what's happening in every single country,
Starting point is 00:55:02 but more so we're trying to get a sort of general idea of how consumption habits may have increased or decreased since the pandemic. I just want to start off with like, when they talk to some of the people, or like when they talk to the people they're polling, when they translate their like responses into English and things like that, what the thing they had to do is sort of write about just what they were feeling or what the situation had felt like with words. And this word cloud that they developed from all these answers, the biggest ones are shit, fucked, stressful. So those are the top three things that people were feeling as they took this poll, which makes sense because it's a grim time. which makes sense because it's a grim time but to get to the the real shit you know the thing that came out of this is like who is drinking the fucking most right now and drum roll please
Starting point is 00:55:52 it apparently is no one is fucking with the australians as it turns out now when they do this survey they found that on average respondents from around the world got drunk and so what they're saying is they categorize what they're asking is quote unquote drunk is quote, having drunk so much that your physical and mental faculties are impaired to the point where your balance slash speech was affected. You were unable to focus clearly on things and that your conversation and behaviors were very obviously different to people who know you. So the global average is around 14.6 times a year. So a little about around once a month, Aussies 27.7 times a year based on this survey coming in behind them, the Danes and the Finns. So Scandinavia also has a shout there, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:40 it looks like Australia, they're coming in hot. They're coming in hot. there but yeah it looks like australia they're coming in hot they're coming in hot so there there's another i was surprised that having spent a semester in ireland i was surprised that my people did not make a bigger dent here but i i have a theory so that there's this other part of the survey about regrets right but i That Irish, Polish, and New Zealand respondents had the most regrets about getting drunk. So my theory, there's this Arizona anthropologist who focused on landfills, just digging through landfills to see what the truth was about how much people
Starting point is 00:57:21 actually consumed of various things. And supposedly, just humans in general just under-report the amount of junk food, alcohol, tobacco that they consume by a large degree. So I'm wondering if the Irish, Polish, and New Zealand are the ones who were the most likely because of the regrets and just having a sense of like guilt or shame in the irish case shame about about how much they're drinking i'm wondering if that's what's going on here is that that's the sign of who is under under reporting at the most that's a great observation well it's interesting too because like the the danes right there they were only
Starting point is 00:58:03 they were second to the australians but they were also the country with the least regret yeah bro about drinking which i think is really interesting because that shows like uh like i when i i went to i've been to denmark before her majesty studied abroad there and i was asking him like what's the vibe like i mean when we were there like people yeah we're getting drunk but it didn't feel like it was getting like dark or like overly debaucherous. And it was just sort of a similar thing. Like, yeah, people have fun. And also like, you know, it's normal for like kids to have like a kid's beer around the holidays and things like that. So I it's, when I see that, I'm like, I wonder if that's like a healthy, like, that's what we're seeing as a healthy drinking culture or people
Starting point is 00:58:40 are just oblivious or like, no man, no no regrets i haven't seen my kids in like six months man fucking sick bro blow copenhagen like i don't know what i don't know what it all says but yeah there's there's definitely a lot to parse through here cocaine use was through the roof though is that true yeah is that true cocaine and weed use yeah uh when all illicit drug use went up pretty significantly oh wow yeah i mean we make sense right it's becoming more i mean in general less stigmatized i think it's like you're also seeing like and i think what this also shows too is that there is this like just general stress that people are experiencing and many people are turning to substances to you know blow some steam
Starting point is 00:59:24 off whether healthily or unhealthily. Nothing like doing some cocaine to just cut through the stress. Yeah, man. Just chill out. Just lost my gig. Quiet evening at home with an eight ball of cocaine. Get an eight ball and invent a whole new job for me to do and become rich off of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. It's interesting.'s interesting oh no it just blows my mind i mean like i think the pandemic kind of lit a fire under all of us i mean i was drinking i remember my girlfriend was like every so we turned into like like a young retired couple it was like she would be like 6 p.m every day taking weed gummies i would be making cocktails like you know she was in LA, I live in New York, so I was just with her. And I was like, the bar grew bigger and bigger. I was like, Manhattan's today. You know, tequila soda, it got it became a like a lifestyle thing. I'm like, Oh, shit. I'm, I'm noticing now when I do comedy clubs, like, people are more fucked up than
Starting point is 01:00:23 I've ever seen seen in a way. And I think it's because they got so used to drinking at home and they forgot how to behave out in front of people again. I definitely have suffered from doesn't know how to act in public syndrome. Like especially first time, first couple of times I went out like I couldn't. I was like it was like my first time drinking ever. I couldn't. I was like, it was like my first time drinking ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I've noticed that I forgot how to clap during the pandemic. I'm like, I am classically somebody who doesn't know what to do with his hands. But like, I've been at multiple events where I like find myself clapping and it's just like two just dry things like hitting each other and like, not like not making the clap sound. Just cause you're a Sixers fan. Yeah. I think that's it. Like Simmons just took the spark out where I couldn't, couldn't do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Oh, another thing, psychedelic microdosing also on the rise. Oh yeah. I mean, they found too. Pro. I could have told you that you know yeah but it's all right coming back in a big fucking way man i'm too scared of that
Starting point is 01:01:31 shit that i i get paranoid on weed i can't imagine mushrooms and i can't imagine the next level well that's the i mean i think that's the i think that's why specifically microdosing is like the key word there you know like if you've ever done most people if they've ever done mushrooms or something like you're you know in college or high school typically you're taking a overdose like a macro dose of mushroom like psilocybin where typically like for it to be a micro dose in the sort of traditional sense like you're trying to do it just below perceptual thresholds right so it's not really to the point where like oh fuck man i think i'm getting likeual thresholds. So it's not really to the point where you're like, oh, fuck, man, I think I'm getting, like, fucking starting to see shit.
Starting point is 01:02:08 It's more that there's just that little bit of introducing it into your system that kind of, I think, gives, like, sort of the analogy, sort of like you go from a closed fist to, like, an open palm. And that's the difference internally for, you know, people who have dialed in proper regimen of microdosing. Yeah. I can definitely say, you know, when I was drinking, first of all, the pandemic would have been very, very bad for me if I was still drinking. And second of all, I would have taken issue with their, with their definition, having drunk so much that your physical and mental faculties
Starting point is 01:02:44 are impaired to the point where your balanced speech was affected. You were unable to focus clearly. Like I would have been like, no, that's not me, man. I'm actually clear when I got a couple of drinks in me. So I would have also lied on this survey and also been lying to myself. And I'm a better comedian when I'm drunk. I'm funnier, dude. Yeah, exactly. When I listen to the recording, I'm like, funnier dude yeah i listen to the recording i'm like oh dear this shit yeah they're like no see and the behaviors have to be different or from people
Starting point is 01:03:11 that know me i have to be appear to be different no they kind of know it's how i get down so yeah i don't think i really have gotten drunk then yeah they only know me as the cool me who's fucking hammered. Anyways, shout out to anyone out there who's struggling with it, though. Yeah, of course. There's shit to do. Hit me up on Twitter if you need to talk to someone. All right, Sam. It's been such a pleasure having you, man.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Thanks for having me, guys. It was fun talking to you. Where can people find you and follow you? You know, I'm on all over social media. So Sam Morrell, S-A-M-M-O-R-R-I-L on every platform. I got, I post, I'm going to shoot a new YouTube special in April. I got a couple of full length specials on YouTube. I've got a bunch of albums wherever you get that stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I post a lot of topical stuff on social media just because I'm, you know, I'm not going to use it in a special. So throw it out there. Got some Jelaine jokes coming your way. Maybe some Jussie Smollett stuff for the trial. We'll see. Oh, yeah. That trial has been wacky, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. So, yeah. Just put out a documentary on YouTube called full capacity about the club's reopening it's it's really fun if you haven't seen it got ray romano in it colin quinn sam jay uh so many good chris rad from snl so many funny comics are in it nice man so yeah you'll really mark norman a bunch of bunch of great comics so out. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying? You know what I like?
Starting point is 01:04:51 I really like those new guys on Saturday Night Live, Please Don't Destroy. Yeah, they're really good. I really like those guys. They've got great chemistry. I like the pacing of the jokes. I like how silly they are. I discovered them when they did the the first video
Starting point is 01:05:05 of one of the guys getting a shady vaccine yeah i loved it so i think i'm happy for their success and uh i mean there's so much good stuff out there roy wood just put out a new special on comedy central i think he's one of the best comics and yeah and try to find it because man does comedy central stink at letting you find their stuff. Yeah. You have to enter like a password, a code.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You have to like go to a physical location like with longitudinal coordinates. Even online, you have to bring a vax card. You know, it's a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:37 They're terrible at that stuff. So find Roy's stuff. He's terrific. He's so fucking fun. And a great, a great guy as well. Yeah, really like one of the nicest people we've ever worked with. Go's so fucking fun. And a great, a great guy as well. So yeah, really like one of the nicest people we've ever worked with.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Go, go find that. Uh, miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. And also the other show for 20 day fiance where Sophia Alexander and I talk 90 day fiance.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Some tweets that I'm liking. one is from yedoye at yedoye underscore he tweeted musicals are like 20 singing and dancing and 80 throwing big double doors open nailed it uh and then at miss jelinski j-e-l-l-i-n-s-k-y tweeted my husband told me when he starts thinking about stuff that's too heavy and depressing, he goes to, quote, scarecrow mode. And I was like, what's that? And he was like, I think about a scarecrow
Starting point is 01:06:34 for a while, and then I laugh. What? Scarecrow mode. Yeah, gotta try that. Try that one out, folks. Alright, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. David C. Bell at MovieHooligan
Starting point is 01:06:52 tweeted, look, I don't like this any more than you, but Wes Anderson should remake Clue, which is just true. Wow. Maddie Gross tweeted, whenever a frozen pizza says to put it directly on the rack, I'm like, you crazy son of a bitch. We might just pull this off.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Ben E. tweeted, and is this Susan Sarandon in the room with us now? And Deirdre tweeted, car should have a second friendlier horn to say thank you. Or if you want to let people know you just drove past a cool animal. I just agree with that. That is true. And you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh i think you are going to enjoy this track from when i looked on my spotify rap the artist i listened to the most this year dirty art club and this is from the album vermillion the track is
Starting point is 01:07:55 called evermore and like all dirty art club tracks i just love the aesthetic of his work it's very it's very sample heavy but reconstructed in a way that gives it some just edge to it. And this track specifically, it sounds like the opening credits of like an Italian soap opera. But if you were like on acid and trying to watch a TV.
Starting point is 01:08:15 So shout out to Evermore by Dirty Art Club. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us
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