The Daily Zeitgeist - Toxic Masculinity: The New Jihad, Meek Mill’s Triumphant Return 4.25.18

Episode Date: April 26, 2018

In episode 134, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Megan Gailey to discuss Meek Mill getting out of jail and the Philly celebration that ensued, Kanye West continuing to tweet out madness, the sp...ecial election in Arizona, more info on the Toronto attack and the group of incel (celebate) folk / hate group, Sean Hannity's sketchy real estate empire, supermarkets re-branding as Instagram zones and possibly being the new single's club, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:31 No, you got it And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my miles There was something so pleasant about that grave. Does that mouse be crazy? Does that mouse be crazy? Does that mouse be crazy? Possibly.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Major chord is what would go there. Now, thank you to Dakota Dones, a.k.a. Dakota Jones on Twitter for that one because you know I like to fucking sing and I'm going to stop just doing one word, a.k.a. I just need verses to sing because I'm a repressed singer. So thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Oh, man. That was beautiful. And also, I noticed how none of y'all fucking applauded. I think it was too long. Like if there had been a moment, Oh, man. That was beautiful. And also, I noticed how none of y'all fucking applauded. I think it was too long. Like, if there had been a moment, but I was like, I'll applaud, but not now. Because now it's centering. Fair play to you, because when I was rehearsing this before we got in here, you were like, I didn't think it was long.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So, yeah, I should have listened. Okay. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat. You've already heard from her, the hilarious comedian, Megan Gailey. Hi. Hi. What is up? Were you married the last time I was here?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I've been married 10 years. Oh, you've been married 10 years? Yeah. Oh, my God. I was like, because you have a ring, but it's on your pinky. It's on my pinky, and it's brass, and it turns my finger green. So then I was like, am I a part of some sort of optical illusion where all these men are wearing rings to shame me?
Starting point is 00:04:04 No. But that's like a real wedding band. That's like a dad band. That is a dad band. And you can tell I've got the line under it. Oh, that's good. That's good. My finger is all white and withered underneath my wedding band.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's gross. That's what we want. Yeah, no, I know. So when you take it off, we can still tell. That's how you know you're faithful. Before I get into the house, my wife makes me show her that. She's like, let me see it. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Good. Let me see your white withered finger. All right. Good. Our love remains intact. 10 years. 10 years, yeah. Yeah, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We got married young. Megan, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? You know, I was really torn on this because the last time I did the show, I mentioned a product that I had been searching, and then they sent me all of this amazing stuff. The weird beards, the James Harden beards? Trolley, you are incredible. Like, I was just like,
Starting point is 00:04:56 oh, wow, I think Trolley thinks I'm more important than I am. Wait, yeah, wait. Did that just happen because you talked, and then they appeared? Yeah. Damn, so somebody's listening. But they do have new James Harden. Oh, so somebody's listening. But they do have new James Harden sneakers.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And so that's exciting. So the beards. This is like an embarrassing thing I had to Google last week. You guys heard me talking about couches. My Google search is basically just couches right now. It's just places where white women bisectionals. But I had to look up when I was paying my taxes last week, which side of the envelope the stamp goes on. Oh, whoa. And I was like, because I knew I knew,
Starting point is 00:05:30 but I was just like so frazzled. And I was like, I just didn't trust myself with the IRS. Like if it was a letter going to like my great aunt. Fuck it, you put the stamp on the inside. Anywhere it'll get to her. But I was like, have I been putting it on wrong the entire time? And then I was like, this is such a like, I guess when I think I'm not a millennial, I'm like, oh, putting it on wrong the entire time and then I was like this is such a like I guess when I think I'm not a millennial I'm like oh I need to look back at
Starting point is 00:05:49 this moment right and be like nope this is it I did not even mail something IRL that's probably the thing I've googled most in my life is which side yeah where to put the stamp and like where to put the return address and I just always I don't know like there's something like dyslexic about there's something I alwaysic about me or something. I always have to Google that. Wait, but Megan, you second-guessed yourself because of the stress of sending off the taxes, which is why you even entered that headspace?
Starting point is 00:06:13 I think so. Or you think from the beginning you've always never quite been sure where it went? I think it was the stress. I was in Chase Bank bra-less in a LeVar Ball custom hoodie. I'm sorry. No, no, no. A LeVar Ball custom hoodie. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. A LeVar Ball custom hoodie? That my friend made against everyone's will.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Wow. The printing company was like, I don't think this is trademarked. She's like, oh, absolutely it's not. This is very illegal. But I think LeVar would be happy. So it's the whole family reaching for a ball. And then the ball kind of has like christ-like um glow yeah coming off of it wow it's the whole ball family but it's all about lavar baby right that's you know that yeah i mean if it was just tina i would be happy
Starting point is 00:06:57 but once it's the whole crew it's lavar and tina it's lavar and tina yeah so i'm sorry back to that you're in the you're in the chase bank You're wearing the hoodie. And then you just feel like, I don't know where the fucking stamp goes. And there was like an old man next to me. He was like laughing. Well, no, I was trying to hide it from him. Because I was like, I don't want him to know that I don't know. Yeah, he's like, what are you Googling over there? And it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Like, I walked into the bank on Tax Day thinking it was going to be popping. I was like, where is everything? And they were like, people do it before today. That's right. You know you don't have to do it on tax time. Also, you can send that shit through the internet. And then I was like, I needed to put it in the mail, and the mailbox, like the blue one by my apartment, had already been picked up.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So I saw a mail truck, and I just sat outside waiting for him for like 15 minutes, and then just handed it to him. Aw. Well, he got it done. He's my friend. I have always connected with mailmen. He's like my person,
Starting point is 00:07:51 like the one from my building and he's cool. I like him. Nice. Yeah, the one, the mail carrier, I forget what her name is in my neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:07:57 she literally seen me grow up. So like when I've moved out of the house and I come back and she's like, oh my God, how are you? I'm like, wow. This doesn't happen these days.
Starting point is 00:08:05 No, I love male people. I really do. They're wonderful. They have great tans. Yeah. Like one side of the body tans. No, not like truck drivers. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Like legit, you know, those calves see the sun. Right, right. Megan, what is something that's underrated? I think this new season of American Idol is really good. Granted, I've stopped watching it because I don't agree with any of their decisions. But if you're looking for something, the first round of auditions when they're like here and they went to like Charleston. I was like, I don't know if you need to be here. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I mean, there were episodes where I was crying so hard I had to pause it, go in the bathroom, cry in a way that I wanted wanted to actually and then come back out and restart it again i'm sorry uh you're watching alone with my boyfriend that's why i would go in the bathroom because he'd be like are you okay right and i'd be like i'm fine and then i'd get up and go in the bathroom be like you're like he adopted his brother's baby like there's just things that wow um but it's really good all the people that i loved are kind of gone but there's some there's like three left i've been jumping back in via youtube only now to watch the finals just to watch the performances yeah and i don't know if i'm gonna vote i've never voted voting seems like right in an election either right oh no i voted in that also seems
Starting point is 00:09:24 like you're divorced. That seems like the demo of who's actually voting. But American Idol voting, I'm like, is this too bleak to do? But I really like Maddie Pope. What's Maddie Pope style? Maddie Pope is just like... Powerhouse vocalist? Maddie Pope is, no, it's sort of like a,
Starting point is 00:09:44 I don't want to say like feist, but it's like a girl with like an interesting voice. Not a Florence and the Machine, but sort of like there's some grit to it. And then there's this guy, Michael, who's incredible, who I love, who actually works at the bowling alley right by my house. That's where they like did his like pre-shoot. And then there's this girl, Katie, who I do like. And then everyone else, I'm like, nah. There's just so many country boys. This is the problem with it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You watch it, and you'll be rooting for someone, and then you're like, they voted for Trump. They're just too good down here. And then you're like, fuck. I can't root. They're like, can I perform in this white polo shirt and khakis? No. What's something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Kombucha. Is that how you say it? Yeah. Nailed it. Get out of here. Bubble tea. No. Oysters.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Absolutely not. Wait, what? I don't like any of those. Okay. I was like, I'm like bubble tea with your kombucha. Bubble tea sucks. But you don't like boba? No.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Why you got those beads? First of all, they're tapioca. I don't like those. And it's like, I don't know. I think I have an addiction to it just being Asian or something. I love fucking boba. You like tapioca? Oh my God, I love that shit.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Although recently though, I have started ordering shit without the boba in it. Okay, why? Because I'm kind of like Trump in a way where if I like one part of something and I'm able to get it, then I'll do that. Oh, so you don't like the bubble, the tapioca. Well, sometimes, no, the thing is, I like the flavor of a taro milkshake so much, like the taro flavor, that sometimes I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:13 no, I just need a main line, the taro. I think it tastes like sticks. All of it is just sticky gross. The flavored pearl ones are kind of wacky because that's just like... The green tea is... Both kombucha and oysters have felt to me like you're drinking slash eating snot. It's gross.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Like they have like a very snotty vibe. Oh, oysters. Oh, come on, man. You don't like oysters? No, I do. I like them, but I like snot. Oh, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Oh, that's why you always ask me to put my boogers in that Tupperware. We save the tissues. Yeah. I love oysters. Kombucha, I don't really drink. Especially once I started seeing it in L.A. where people were doing like booch cocktails and shit. No, but the cocktail thing where they're like, yo, you want a booch in Jameson? I was like, what the fuck are you?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Nah, bro, this is too L.A. for me. And I'm from here. But yeah, okay, I see that. I don't like it. Fine. What about oysters though? What's the problem? Is the snot thing?
Starting point is 00:12:08 No, the thing with oysters, I wish I liked it and I don't. Right. You know, it's like how I used to be this way with salmon. When I was a young girl, I was like, I think I should like salmon. I was a young girl. And then, and now I do. And so, but like I'll be at dinners and people are like, let's get oysters. And I feel like a hillbilly that I don't want them.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But it's. Right, right. And then I also find oysters to be strange becauseners and people are like, let's get oysters. And I feel like a hillbilly that I don't want them. But it's. Right, right. And then I also find oysters to be strange because then people will be like, you know, it's an. Always. Always saying that. And it's like. It's an aphrodisiac. This is like an Easter brunch.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like. Right, right. I don't. Why are you trying to sell it as like now we're all going to have sex with each other because we ate this weird thing. Right, right, right, right. It doesn't. Yeah, you better eat up. It's an aphrodisiac.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah. Okay. It's 11 a.m. I do. I like mussels. Right, right, right. Yeah, you better eat up. It's an aphrodisiac. Yeah. Okay. It's 11 a.m. I like mussels, and I feel like they're related somehow. Well, they're not, technically. I know, but they seem like the same. If there was a food family tree,
Starting point is 00:12:55 they would be on a swing together. Wait, they're not related? Well, because they say that oysters have no central nervous system, which is why vegans have began to embrace oysters. See, and that's a knock against them, too. Yeah, right. And because they're like these entities that filter the water.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They're like water filters. No. Yeah. But look, I'm eating them either way. I'm eating them either way. What is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? I used to work at a retirement community, and I don't think old people are having as much sex as we think they are.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Wait, those are the ones that we think they are? Yeah, whenever, like, because I love old people. I, like, do a lot of things with old people. I volunteer. I didn't want to say I volunteer because then that sounds, like, rude. Listen, I'm a better person than everyone listening. I volunteer with the elderly population. But, like, I don't think they're getting
Starting point is 00:13:45 down as much. Because people are like, oh, that really high rate of STD. It's like, yeah, maybe that's true. So there was a big story in the past decade that STDs were running rampant at retirement communities. And it's true to some extent because
Starting point is 00:14:01 there's so few men. Men die. die so thankfully finally something good happens at the end of life all of the men perish and so there'll be like one man left and then like if he is having sex with multiple partners and gets an st it's the same way that like it happens amongst young people but then the men are dead right but it but it's a function of... Yeah, but I don't think it's actually them just having sex all the time. And in your experience being there, it didn't seem like there was a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:14:31 No, I mean, people were falling asleep at Eleanor Roosevelt talks. I don't see how those same people were getting it up that night. Right. Are there social activities maybe at night? Like wine tastings or something like that? There is wine tasting
Starting point is 00:14:47 but it was all women. There were no men there because they're dead. Well then maybe your sample size is a little bit different because you were in like the island that there were no men. I mean there was one man, he could still walk. And he was the hottest dude. He was a hot commodity.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You know he can still walk. Life wasn't even passed yet and people were bringing him lemon tarts oh wow that's disrespect I thought so too and you could tell he'd never been cool ever in his life I was like oh my god
Starting point is 00:15:18 I'm the last one standing should we bring up the conversation we've been having in the office of the past couple days it is a segue pretty crazy so we were up the conversation we've been having in the office of the past couple days? Oh, yeah. That is a segue. Pretty crazy. So we were having the conversation, how long do you think former President George H.W. Bush has now that Barbara Bush has passed? Because that's a thing that happens, right? Yeah, with older couples. One part of a couple passes and then the other member of the couple of the marriage dies.
Starting point is 00:15:45 passes and then the other member of the couple of the marriage dies uh and we were like having this conversation and we might have taken an over under on like how long he had uh well he's also not in good health right i think people were like oh he went first okay she went yeah and then she went right so we have two like sort of sheets where our guesses are like you know five months four months three months and then immediately like right as we finished having that conversation we all got the news alert that he was like going to the hospital and so then we were like we ramped it up well the thing was really the whole debate circled around like a few points right because it was really in the context of what happens with an elderly couple when one of them dies will they survive and then you know some people speculate
Starting point is 00:16:30 that if if george really loved her then he would probably soon follow because he was so heartbroken then other people had theories that maybe he never loved her that they were had a purely sort of uh like a business relationship kind of thing and he would probably live for a long time because he was never really depending on her. And that part of him is missing. And so really the debate started to center around what was the real relationship like between the two? Did they love each other? Did they love each other? I think that they will probably – I mean he may pass soon and that would be sad.
Starting point is 00:17:01 he may pass soon and that would be that would be sad but I think that when you're in the public eye and deaf and being a president you fall out of
Starting point is 00:17:10 like what is normal because like he has people caring for him all the time it's not like he's just like they literally took him to the best hospital
Starting point is 00:17:17 in the country that's a really good point that like kind of changes but I don't want any of them to die I just feel like war criminals just end up living for a while. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Him and Dick Cheney will live forever. Yeah, Dick Cheney on his seventh heart. I think that H-Dub could outlive Trump. Oh, wow. I think we sort of forget that he has to be in bad health. Right. But if it's a thing where the worse person you are, the longer you live, then Trump is going to be the last human being. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:17:49 70? 72, 71, I think. Interesting. Men are very interesting. He is 71 years old. Because in like six weeks, he may look 100. It like happens. Like they just like, whoa, oh, you're old.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Oh, right, right. You know? It's supposed to happen with presidents like immediately and like very precipitously. Because they're working. Yeah oh, you're old. Oh, right, right. It's supposed to happen with presidents immediately and very precipitously. Because they're working. Yeah, because they're working their ass off, which is not happening with him. Nah, he's chilling. Yeah, Obama's like, oh, damn, I'm taking over after this economic shit? Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And then he literally looked- Obama, like- It looked like that scene in Private Ryan where- It's like looking at a flip book. Yeah. Where Matt Damon turns to the old man at the end of Shaving Private Ryan. That was like within the first 10 minutes of Obama being an audience. But Michelle had some stress and she looked better than ever.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Michelle's a different quality. Yeah. Michelle is an alien. All right. So wait, do you think that the reason that, you know, when one part of a couple passes, the other one follows soon after is because that person like they're used to taking care of each other yeah yeah i think they sort of like fuse together yeah and it's like they have like well no he used to clean the dust off the fan right and like when that's gone you're like i
Starting point is 00:18:57 don't know right right yeah because a lot of times when someone passes and the other one will then go and live in a retirement community like pretty immediately and sometimes it's the family making the decision but it is like oh two people can kind of look after each other even if they're both sort of old and in failing health but one person can't. Right. Yeah. My grandma, when my
Starting point is 00:19:18 grandfather passed away we immediately brought her over from Japan and we're like just don't even begin to experience life without him. Came over, fucking lived to be like 101 years old. Wow. Yeah, there you go. She loved America.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. And I'm like, maybe she didn't love him. I don't know. She's like, I love Disney. Eating a Trumpian diet. Yeah. You changed her environment enough, though. Yeah, I think that's, I think another thing, too, because if there's, if you're used to
Starting point is 00:19:42 sort of the rhythm or the patterns of your day to day and that included that person, yeah. Like when that's disrupted in such a, such a clear way, like I can see how that could just. Yeah. I mean, they say that after a divorce, like it's almost like suffering from brain damage because your mind is like sort of fused with the other person's mind. And like one person is like used to doing this part of the task and the other person's mind. And one person is used to doing this part of the task and the other person.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So I'm sure the same thing happens when one part of a couple dies. It's like, well, the person who did my thinking for this thing is just gone. I mean, love or not, they were together for many years. So it's probably in between. Because the romantic idea is like, he died from a broken heart.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And it might just be like, he died because nobody cooked for him yeah exactly he died because he was worthless right not h i mean not who cares all right we're trying to take a sample of the global and national shared consciousness what people are thinking and talking about right now uh and the thing that at least the city of Philadelphia is thinking about is that the Sixers moved on. They won their first round series with the Miami Heat and it happened to coincide with Meek Mill getting out of prison. Yeah. Meek Mill just had the greatest, most triumphant return to reality.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Best day to get out of jail. Yeah, exactly. The Sixers owner, like went and like picked him up. He got to the game. Uh, they let him ring the bell, which is like a thing that happens at the beginning of every game.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Uh, the crowd's like going crazy for him. There's this video, uh, from like in the guts of the stadium. Uh, the acrobatic, like cheerleader people are practicing doing flips off of a trampoline
Starting point is 00:21:25 and suddenly out of nowhere just Meek Mill runs up and does a fucking front flip and totally sticks it. Really? Just sticks the shit out of it and everyone's like, oh, people just went crazy. It's like, yeah, you finally get out on bail. You fucking go. You're doing flips.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And then your team wins to move on to the next round of the playoffs like right damn yeah gotta go through a lot though too to get there yeah exactly this is a story we've been talking about for a while because the reason he was back in prison is some bullshit yeah because how this fucking loop of probation people can get stuck in after you know right years after they've served out their time or done whatever they had to to move on yeah like because basically Meek Mill was on this never-ending probation for a decade from one thing. What's everybody going to do
Starting point is 00:22:10 with their free Meek Mill Eagles jerseys now? Frame them? Is that going to go in a man cave? Yeah, exactly. I went to the Super Bowl this year. I don't know if that was before or after. I did. My boyfriend works for the NFL. Oh, wow. You couldn't have rolled your eyes harder.
Starting point is 00:22:25 You rolled your eyes. I know. Well, because he- I think you might have just sprained your eyeballs. He left today to go to the draft, and I just miss him. Of course. And I don't know why he- He works for the NFL Network?
Starting point is 00:22:36 No, he works for the league. The league. Yeah. Oh, my God. Are you dating Roger Goodell? Mm-hmm. Oh, wow. I mean, I almost said I wish.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Don't drag that out like that. Sorry. Sorry. I wish, but just for the plain. Right. And I saw a young, probably 15-year-old white boy sell a free Meek Mill jersey for like $400 cash to a guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. Wow. That's called entrepreneur. I know. Yeah, seriously. Know your market. So in other rapper news, Kanye is continuing to just tweet crazy shit. Fired his manager?
Starting point is 00:23:09 That's a bet. Yeah, he fired. So he fired Scooter Braun. Not just anyone. His manager. He's also like the crazy person, crazy talent whisperer. Like he got Justin Bieber back from the brink when he was like. Did he?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah. I mean, there was a while where he was like one of the few people Bieber would listen to. I remember when I used to work at Power 106, Justin Bieber was supposed to come in to do an interview. Dude got so high. He just like literally called 10 minutes before he was supposed to be there. Or Scooter Braun called the station and was like, I'm sorry, dude. This dude was asleep. That's what he said. He was like, can we do this tomorrow? Right he was like I promise like I'm gonna get him there the next day like he didn't come and then the third day like Scooter Braun basically dragged
Starting point is 00:23:54 him in by the scruff of the neck right this was like at his peak like I'm not making music Justin Bieber like I'm just discovering weed now Bieber kind of vibe and it was amazing though because he brought him in and was like you could tell that this was like one of the few people, despite Justin being on his own schedule, Scooter Braun was like, no, you're, you're fucking going to this thing.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And he went, cause they listen. And he's, yeah, I think he understands a lot of these artists, but yeah, Kanye axing him. It's like,
Starting point is 00:24:17 reminds me of Trump getting rid of the adults. Can someone explain, does the Twitter breakdown seem, I mean, I don't, is it a breakdown or is he just like, I'm back on Twitter and this is how I've been behaving and I just wasn't here? Well, I guess you can look at it a couple ways. It could be that he has come out as being like a Trump-Ian alt-right, like similar thinking
Starting point is 00:24:36 as people. Oh, that's what's going on? Yeah, like he was, he was like shouting out people who are like aligned with the alt-right basically. Oh, God. And then he tweeted recently, like, I love Trump, right? Yeah, he was like, I don't care what y'all get me to say, I'll always love him.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We have dragon energy, yeah? Dragon energy. It's the same thing. We were talking about this yesterday. It's like this sort of idea of we see through the matrix because they're sociopaths and they treat other people like objects and they think that that makes them like some next level humans instead of just like mentally ill.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But Kim, I mean, for all of her drawbacks, is very politically, vocally against Trump. You know, was always like- She should check her husband's Twitter account. Yeah. No, I think his tweet talking about Trump was like, my wife just called me and like told me to say that I'm not for Trump. But I do love him.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I will always love him. It's just like, oh, all right. I wonder if this means the beginning of the end for them, too. Does anyone think that? I mean, are there theories that like. They have been saying that for a while, according to Bloodwatch when we do that. I feel like their stories have never been about how everything is going well between kanye and kim it's like he's not really around he's getting better or they're staying away from each other who knows but anyway it's just i
Starting point is 00:25:55 think it's more i mean today he's just tweeting shit like decentralized i'm nice at ping pong okay i need to meet Larry from Google. Like, hey, my man, this book is looking amazing, by the way. This is a Pulitzer Prize winning book. And there were rumors over the weekend that he was addicted to opioids or that he said nobody was there for me when I was addicted to opioids. And that's why he was hospitalized or had to cut that tour short, which would mean that he doesn't get – I guess he had insurance for the rest of the tour in case something happened, which it was sort of a medical condition that cut the tour short. So he got a bunch of his money back.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But now that company who paid for that is basically saying if it was a drug thing, you don't get it. Well, insurance companies aren't really known for being the connoisseurs. I will always side with Kanye over the insurance companies. They were always looking for reasons like, oh. And also, who knows what, I mean, I don't think he even knows what he's saying. Yeah. And then we just wanted to check in with, there was a special election in Arizona last night, two nights ago. Last night. Arizona, you know, is deep red country. a special election in Arizona last night, two nights ago.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Arizona, you know, is deep red country. It's starting to turn purple a little bit. Yes, it's changing. So I guess in this district. I don't even mean politically. You go there and you're like, oh, everybody wanted to have plastic surgery, but like the science wasn't here yet. And everyone just has fucked up faces.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And then you're like, okay, well, I guess I'll tell jokes to these kooky town people. Kooky town. This science wasn't there yet. Wow. Scathing review of the medical board in Arizona. So, yeah, this district that was up for grabs yesterday went between Debbie Lesko and this other woman, Harold Teppernini. And so Debbie Lesko won, and she has now just said, oh, I'm going to be joining the Freedom Caucus,
Starting point is 00:27:50 which shouldn't be a surprise because this district is just deep Trump country. Like, he won the district by 21 points. They love Joe Arpaio there. Like, this was never going to be won by the Democrats. So everyone was saying, look, if the Democrats somehow win, holy shit. But really what you need to look at is what the margin of victory is between these two candidates. And we find last reporting on it is that Debbie Lesko was only winning by about 6 percent. So that means they lost about 15 points on the Democrats in this election, which is not a good sign at all,
Starting point is 00:28:16 because the Republicans even had to spend like over a million dollars in this race to try and keep it competitive. So, again, yes, a Republican won the special election, but if you look at everything, I mean, it's, you know, it's starting to follow this well-established trend that the GOP brand has not done well since Trump took office when you look at all these special elections that have been, you know, flipped. I think if you're anti-GOP, this is almost a good thing because they're not as panicky.
Starting point is 00:28:42 They're not thinking it's as big a deal the coming democratic wave they're like okay so we won that so it's not yeah well i think democrats had won if democrats had won that that would have been like that would have shit yeah that would have been off but again they're not dumb i mean they're strategists on both sides anyone who's looking at it knows that's not a good result like especially for something that's such typically solid red i can't imagine voting for someone named Debbie. It's like at any point we're like, oh, maybe I should go by Deborah. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You know, what if I was like, hey, guys, I'm running for Senate in Indiana as Maggie. Maggie. So vote for Maggie Gales. Maggie Galey. It's so embarrassing. All right. Miss Debbie. We're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:32:09 for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion.
Starting point is 00:32:56 An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I do just want to stand up for... I've been to a cool small town in Arizona called Jerome, Arizona. Of course.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Tucson. I'm with you. Right. Sedona. Sedona is interesting. Flagstaff. Yeah. We were more talking about... We're talking Phoenix, Scottsdale. There you go. And not even the Suns. We're with you too. Wow. Big Kevin Johnson fan? Yeah. Sure. So good. Bad mayor though. You're an
Starting point is 00:33:59 NBA fan. You've talked about James Harden's beard and other NBA references. So you're following the pacers this exciting time they're playing better than anyone thought they would um yeah i mean i think we all thought that this series would go this way i mean yeah the season definitely out performed during the season but this this series is not a surprise. I was going into it being like, yeah, I very much think that they could win. I think it's a really bad matchup for the Cavs.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I do think since we lost that last game, it's going to be tough, though. When we were up, it was like, oh, it felt even, and now that we're even, it feels like we're down. Momentum's a very powerful thing. I think Vic is due for a big game. I really do. Vicky. My angel. I love him.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Victor Oladipo, who went from being like sort of an also-ran in a trade last year for Paul George that people were like, wow, they got robbed. The Pacers got robbed. And then suddenly he was just an all-NBA, like, all-star this season. I never agreed with the fact that we got robbed. People in Indy really, like, boo Paul George. And it's like, no, he was going to leave.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And so he left in a way that we were able to get something. And maybe you guys are too dumb to realize that or you hate black people too much to, like, overcome that we actually ended up with a good trade. That's my difficulty with Indiana. Yeah. Indiana is a tough state. Lance Stevenson can't play anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Everywhere else hates him. And then he comes to Indiana, the home of the KKK, and is the biggest star. And you're like, okay, I mean, I wish you guys could have this for just people you see on the street too. But take what you can get. That's an important thing to know because, Maggie, you are running for governor of Indiana. Exactly. Maggie. Maggie.
Starting point is 00:35:54 All right. We have a little bit more on the Toronto attack. So, you know, like we said, race on Twitter. We're quick to call the attacker a terrorist and a jihadist. Or then have a debate over whether if an Armenian person, like what Manassian the last name meant and whether or not that qualifies as a white person. And Tucker Carlson was like, how could you say that he's not a jihadist already? And he wanted to leave it open to this being about terrorism. to leave it open to this being about terrorism.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So we do now know that it essentially was about terrorism, but it wasn't for the thing that they like to be afraid of. It was about a guy who is incel, involuntary celibate, who hates women because they won't have sex with him. Have you heard of the incel community? I just, if you're celibate, doesn't that mean you're choosing that? Well, see, there's vol-cels. There's voluntary celibacy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And then there's incels, which are involuntary celibacy. And those people look at the world as, why don't women want to fuck me? That's why I'm celibate. Because I'm fuckable. And fuck these people. Fuck these alpha males who get the women or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And they're just angry at, just essentially women for not having sex. I mean, I've just seen some of the saddest men get laid though. You know, it's like, I just don't know. I don't,
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't think you're, I don't know. It's just Canada. Come on, honey. Get out there. You know, I mean like there,
Starting point is 00:37:16 there are groups on like 4chan or Reddit that all deal with this stuff. Yeah. And it's sort of this, he even posted on Facebook, which was now like a lot of people were saying it was like, it hoax or whatever, that he was basically talking about how the incel rebellion has already begun. And a lot of the way these people are talking about in the community, they all worship that guy, Elliot Rodger, at UCSB. Yeah, they're praising this guy who did the truck attack and Elliot Rodger who shot up UCSB and a bunch of sororities that had pretty women in him as St. Rogers and St. Menagian. And yeah, before he went on this rampage, like 10 minutes before, this guy tweeted,
Starting point is 00:37:54 the incel rebellion has already begun. We will overthrow all Chads and Stacys. Chad is their word for good-looking guys who have sex and Stacy's are good looking women who won't have sex with them and then they said all hail the supreme gentleman Elliot Rogers so these are like granted they're deeply disturbed people deeply disturbed and also using all the language of terrorism like you know they're saying spread name, speak of his sacrifice for our cause, worship him for he gave his life for our future. That's being posted on incel boards today. Like, you're telling me that if that was about, you know, ISIS or Al-Qaeda, like in the aftermath of a terror attack, that people would not be freaking out and like banging that person's door down. But they're just, I think because they're mostly white kids and because it's sort of a pathetic thing. Granted, most terrorists are part of an incel community, whether they admit it or not.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Like a lot of terrorists, terrorism organizations recruit young men who are sexually frustrated. But the fact that these people define themselves by that, and I think maybe makes them less threatening. Yeah. And the whole rebellion is meant to basically say, if we act out our frustrations in the real world, people will eventually begin to see our plight. Like they have this talk of like their struggle. And I think they're going to have a tough time keeping members. I mean, I think we need to take them seriously, especially if they're doing horrible. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 They talk terrible, violent things. But it's like, you know, ISIS is recruiting based on like how like America's terrible. Yeah. And like this is like, oh oh if you get fucked one day sorry boo you're out like lee you know and i'm sure some of them are fucking that's what's annoying it's like i mean it's a bit bigger than annoying obviously but it's like i don't i just go away why don't you just go away well it's just this yeah like there a lot of these people you know like they come out of sort of like the pickup artist world and shit like that, where it's all about sort of looking at women as like non-human, like sort of cogs in a machine that if you manipulate property, you can get it to work the way you want to.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's hard to say that this thing isn't a movement, although the people they talk like on post like, well, we're not a movement. You clearly are like they're contradicting posts from other people saying like this is a movement and these are struggles and this is people are clearly articulate. I mean, I don't know if you can say someone is smart who chooses to blame their like lack of sexual partners on just the opposite sex. That doesn't strike me as a sign of intelligence. But then also hot men, too, or what they deem. I would love to be like, what do you think is a hot man i'd love
Starting point is 00:40:46 to see their opinion of a chad well chad is like a you know like a built dude with a strong chin yeah i don't want to fuck him you know it's like okay we're i mean we're both we both don't like chad okay can we find some common ground there obviously women want to have sex with a body builder right um but yeah they say the path to radicalization for them starts with the pickup artist community. They try to use the pseudo-scientific dehumanizing seduction techniques, and when that doesn't work, they just get so angry. That's how Elliot Rodger went down.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Before he went on a shooting spree, he was venting about the pickup artist community and how they had failed him. Right. Well, because the way that shit works, it really is like when it began, it was like, hey, you don't know how to talk to women. It's because you don't talk to them. You got to do this sequence of sentences and then they'll be so hypnotized that they're going to fuck. And so when people sell somebody on that, these people really hang on that and think that is really going to change their life.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And it's just such a fucking odd problem. And it's such a problem with like masculinity. It's flawed from the get go because they don't see women as human beings. There isn't a formula to talk to all men, all women, all like they're just even the fucking dog whisperer doesn't work sometimes. You know, like we're human beings. You talk to us. Right. It's just like we're human beings. You talk to us. It's just like we're being killed. If we fuck people, we're being killed.
Starting point is 00:42:09 That we don't fuck. It's just like what? It makes me afraid that they will like go on apps and like will seek out victims in that way. Well, that's the other thing that people are concerned about because I know like on a couple write-ups people were sort of looking on these boards and they do regularly talk about how to get away with like assaulting somebody or like you know rape or whatever and that's why again if you have a message board where people are like praising the acts of Osama bin Laden or other people uh that you would say okay hold on like what's what's the energy going on over here and what like where are they to go? But it's clear that this is not the only attack of somebody who had a similar motive about, like, this sort of anger at the world and society at large for their lack of sexual connection. Yeah, because you look at, like, the Charlottesville crew and you're like, well, they're not fucking either.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You know, like, none of these people are fucking. Right. I mean, and if they are, it's not great. Right. They've just focused their anger in one direction. Yes, they're being upfront. Right. I'd say the same thing's true of the 9-11 hijackers.
Starting point is 00:43:08 They probably weren't having tons of sex, which is why you could convince them to fly a plane into a building and say, because once you do that, you'll be able to have sex with women in heaven or whatever. I think that's probably the next evolution of this conversation is now talking about these communities and really having to look at them through the lens of law enforcement. If their aim as a community is to get people scared or to fall in line or be like, hey, these people who are involuntarily celibate, we are victims and you need to hear us or we will get our message out by taking lives like yeah i mean that's every terrorist organization and now we have two mass murders that were basically motivated by this ideology so it seems like we should be taking them fairly seriously but i doubt that's going to happen uh so we also wanted to take a look at uh sean hannity and his real estate empire right so it came out that uh he basically owns 870 homes in seven states what uh which you know he had talked about how
Starting point is 00:44:17 uh michael cohen helped him with real estate stuff and you assumed it was like yeah uh hey could you look at this contract for with my landlord for me or something like that? Hey, the foundation might have a crack in it. Should I go through with this? So he's bought like entire like condo buildings. Yeah. So the thing is, in The Guardian, there was this report that showed that he basically is in control of these shell companies that have spent at least $90 million on like properties
Starting point is 00:44:41 that are mostly distressed homes, like, you know, homes that are about to be foreclosed on, and was just mass purchasing them. I think he has two condos that actually have agreements with HUD, with the Housing and Urban Development Department, which also makes it weird when you have Ben Carson on your show and you're praising him but not disclosing it. It's like, I also have some buildings that, you know. Is Fox News trying to get in that HGTV business?
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, right next. Is it going to be flip or flop? Right. Flip or flog. So you had Ben Carson on. What did he talk to him about? It was just kind of, oh, how great of a job you're doing. It was just like, you know, it was just like a softball thing, like just making him look really great.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Good publicity for the housing and urban development. Exactly. When Ben Carson is fucking up in an insane amount right uh and then but also then we find out that not necessarily that ben carson uh like you know put these new regulations into effect that the the same buildings that hannity owns like they're part of a program that in 2019 like you know they will be allowed to turn it from like subsidized housing units into condominiums that they can just package and sell on their own. So before it was like, okay, well, look, we'll give you these loans. We'll
Starting point is 00:45:49 subsidize the housing if you're allowing people to stay there because they need cheaper housing. But then they're saying, but look, just wait a couple of years and then you can flip the building, sell for condominiums, and then nobody has to live there and then they can figure it out on their own. So the we in that instance is HUD. They're like, we will help finance this so that we have cheap housing, and then, yeah. But that's not necessarily the entire game of HUD, but that's a thing to just take. No, they're supposed to be good. Yeah, they're supposed to be good. They're trying to.
Starting point is 00:46:17 They're supposed to be on our side. That's what kind of makes it more infuriating when Sean Hannity goes up there and is just that disingenuous. Right, and he's talking about how great Ben Carson is at his job when, yeah, like you said, what kind of makes it more infuriating when Sean Hannity goes up there and is just that disingenuous. Right. And it's talking about how great Ben Carson is at his job when, yeah, like you said, the HUD is supposed to be the good guys who are helping poor people who need places to live. And instead, even this morning, there was a news alert that he was suggesting that they raised the rent in subsidized housing and make people get jobs in order to live in places. So basically his read on the situation is, well, these poor people are just too lazy.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Well, yeah. I mean, that's how all conservatives think, though. Like everything is a hand up. Just smoke weed. Yeah. Just smoke weed and fuck and make 900 babies. So, I mean, he is part of this huge trend, which all comes from the financial crisis in 08, 07, 08, where, you know, lots of people lost their homes. Their homes were foreclosed on.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And Wall Street just bought up all of these houses and then started renting them out to people for hiked up rents. So a lot of people in Wall Street are making money off of these home foreclosures that they caused in the first place. But they see a financial crisis as an opportunity to make more money off of the people who are in crisis. Everyone has – I don't even know who I'm meaning when I say everyone. But like I've heard from multiple people in the real estate world. They're like, another crash is coming. And I'm like, no, I thought that you had to put down 20%.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like it's coming. Like if you want to buy a house, wait three years because it's bottoming out again. And it's I don't know if it's going to be as bad as 07 and 08. Yeah. But like a new wave of it, like prices in New York have already started to drop. And that's like an indication of like, oh, fuck, it's going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Well, I mean, the thing with these companies, like especially, you know, Blackstone is like this huge private equity equity company that they have they're like one of the biggest offenders like of this sort of good name yeah well it's mean yeah it sounds like a fucking uh as J.M. McNabb says a Harry Potter bad guy yeah right Blackstone yeah these companies they're kind of like hey look looking at Wall Street like we have an opportunity to just buy all these houses that are like going on the cheap. And in some cases, like someone that Hannity was in business when he went to jail for like artificially tanking prices at these auctions to be able to buy them at lower prices, who like once those houses are bought, that's money that probably could have gone to the homeowner probably to pay back their debt. But anyway, and that guy
Starting point is 00:48:59 went to jail, but that's beside the point. The thing is- That's the sort of thing that's happening is they're taking these foreclosed on homes and basically buying them up cheap and taking away these assets from the people who were victimized by the financial crisis so sean hannity is like the guy behind the guy behind the guy like making shit loads of money of the people who watch his show right and are like there's a normal everyday american right there. Yeah, meanwhile. Sean Hannity.
Starting point is 00:49:26 He's making money off of you and putting you out of your fucking home. Or even just saying, oh, you know, look at the homeownership is going down. Obama, look at these foreclosure rates. And it's like, my man, you are the destroyer.
Starting point is 00:49:38 You are the same person who is taking advantage of this situation. Yeah, I feel like there is sort of this dialogue of like home ownership is going down because our generation is like bad. Like we've ruined chain restaurants. It's like, okay, we don't want to do it. It's like, yes, we are afraid to buy homes. That wasn't our fault. We were young kids. We were just like in high school, college and buying a home became this catastrophic, terrible thing. So yeah, now we don't want to buy a home.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And there will be people that are forever renters. And guess what? We didn't fucking make that happen. You guys did. And also the fact is that wages don't really match. Younger people aren't making the kind of money you even need to begin thinking about buying a home. It's depending on where you live in a huge urban center.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I mean, clearly there are other places where it is more achievable. But like, for example, California, New York, I mean, you can't. D.C., Chicago. Owning in the city. Yeah, big cities, it's a huge thing. And, you know, when they look at when a lot of these houses went to auction when they're being foreclosed on, you know, you'd have people who are trying to buy a house, like maybe first time homeowners who, you know, like maybe you're people of color who traditionally had a really hard time buying a home. You have these Wall Street people come in with cash up front and go, we'll buy this shit for cash right now.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And that's already puts people who are traditionally trying to buy a home at a tremendous disadvantage. So when they buy up all these houses, they amass this like massive revenue stream of just renters. And then they've also started selling the bonds of taking all the rent that's being paid and selling that off too. Right. And that's that into a bond, which I guess is more sort of predictable than the, you know, right. Mortgage that they had before, like all those shitty mortgages they had before. But, uh, you know, when you have a, a home that is essentially owned and like tied up in a Wall Street bond like your landlord does not give a fuck about you like they're not in it to help you out and like there are all these horror stories of people who you know have who
Starting point is 00:51:35 are paying rent for these houses that are owned by giant private equity firms who like there will be a crack in their ceiling and they'll be like it's getting worse it's getting worse guys nobody's been by to look at it and then their fucking ceiling caves in right or like one where there was like water squirting through a light fixture um yeah so it seems dangerous a live wire with water shooting out yeah that sounds fine and then you try and call your landlord like sorry look uh we're way too massive to look at the actual renters. And that's a problem, too, because if the renters are not satisfied, they will leave. And now that is going to affect the rent that's being paid on those properties. Like part of those bonds being healthy, too, is that you can keep people actually in those units or in those homes.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And if they're not doing that, that's why a lot of critics are saying, like, if you can't even keep people happy or safe in their homes, how do you expect to maintain and not have super high turnover without a real plan to address that? Maybe we all got to stay in like on a Tuesday and rewatch The Big Short. Right. Because it's like that just came out. Well, yeah. We already – I mean I haven't seen it. I've fallen asleep three different times trying to watch it on a plane.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Really focused. It's a tough plane movie. But it's like I think it's about this. Really focused. It's a tough plane movie. But it's like, I think it's about this. I think we need to regroup because if this happens again, that's going to be pretty embarrassing. Right. And one of the reports, they say that the difference with these bonds that they're selling now is when banks will repossess a mortgaged home as collateral, there's at least the assumption that the homeowner
Starting point is 00:53:06 has probably defaulted on the mortgage and then it makes sense for this person to be ousted or evicted from their home. Whereas in these bonds, if a bond blows up, so many families are tied up in them. One bond melting down could lead to a ton of evictions, even if you never were late on your payments. So it's just a very weird situation. I think what, you know, obviously it's not, it's not that Sean Hannity is exactly this company, but he's employing the sort of same sort of tactics and he saw the same lucrative opportunity to do this. And people need to be aware that this company, Blackstone, I think they own up to like 80,000 single family homes. That's a fucking racket. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:44 And people don't realize that, wow, like even the housing market created a new corporate overlord for your rent. It's like they had their eyes on this shit from the start. They're like, hey, well, look, the market will bottom out and we can just jump in with cash and buy massive amounts of properties at once. President Trump has even said before he was president, he said he sort of hoped for a housing market crash.
Starting point is 00:54:04 So, quote, people like me will go in and buy like crazy. So, I mean, that's right. Yeah, that's kind of scary. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
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Starting point is 00:58:12 Most of the time. And we're back. Yeah, so we're going to hit a couple quick stories on our way out here. Federal judge has said that this administration's attempt to sunset DACA is actually like they never gave a reason for it. He's like, no, you can't just do that without explaining why you want to do that. Essentially, it's a crucial blow because essentially they're saying, well, now you got to accept new applications and renewal applications. And it kind of helps bring the program back to how it was during the obama administration i just thought about like when they get news do you think that you know remember like the staples button do you think they have a button that's like oh man like they're always like no you guys you can't do that right and then they go back and they're like but and they're like no you can't they're like i'm sorry what was your reason they're like well
Starting point is 00:59:03 someone might have sued and and that would end it so we're like fuck it, you can't. They're like, I'm sorry, what was your reason? They're like, well, someone might have sued and that would end it. So we were like, fuck it. And the judge was like, excuse me? I just feel like every workplace that I've ever been or like in has some sort of like fun gag. You guys have that Jersey Shore. Does the Trump White House have any fun levity? Is there like Taco Tuesday? No, they all vape.
Starting point is 00:59:22 They vape. There's an office in the- That's where the they all vape. They vape. There's an office in the- That's where the deadbeats are. They vape. There's an actual office of deadbeats in the nepotism hell. There's a bunch of kids vaping. Mooch comes once a week. Yeah, and they're like, how'd you get in here?
Starting point is 00:59:35 He's like, they can't kill me, baby. Right. So there's a vape room. Cool. That tracks. Yeah, of course. That feels on brand. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And so supermarkets are, of course. That feels on brand. Yeah, yeah. And so supermarkets are kind of fucked. Well, yeah, yeah. Maybe. Potentially. There's like this industry article where basically
Starting point is 00:59:55 they were urging grocery store operators to be like, look, we get that young people don't cook anymore. They've used things like Instacart and Postmates
Starting point is 01:00:04 and Amazon. And Blue Apron. Yeah, Blue Apron. The younger people aren't going anymore. They've used things like Instacart and Postmates and Amazon. And Blue Apron. Yeah, Blue Apron. The younger people aren't going to grocery stores, but they love restaurants. And they're like, why? Because they gram their food. So their logic now to other supermarket operators is like, man, just make your store more gramable, baby.
Starting point is 01:00:19 You know what I mean? Let that boar's head turkey, that sausalito turkey, why don't we make a little carving out of that or something? Anyway, it's crazy that their idea, because these people are so old and out of ideas that they think it's the lack of social media sexiness that is contributing to it. You're thinking turkey sculptures is the way to do that? I mean, look, if I saw, you know, give away, you know what they should do is like, it should be free groceries at like a set time. Like a happy hour. You go on Twitter where it's like, yo, the first 10 people to get in here right now are getting free groceries.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Right. Now you've got people going to the store. I just love grocery stores. I love them. I love being there. I love the shelves and the aisles. I have a bagger friend. Bagger Vance.
Starting point is 01:01:01 That's my crew. Yeah. Which – the Ralphs? The Ralphs. On Vine? On Ventura and Coldwater. bagger vance these are that's my crew yeah which uh which uh the ralphs on on ventura and cold water and i tweet everyone that works there is so lovely so helpful amazing i've tweeted at them multiple times oh wow just to be like i love everybody and it's not even a favorite they don't even they don't care about me at all and i'm like ralphs i just want to tell you you're doing good work you know what's so funny they In this thing, another industry thing, they were pointing to the fact
Starting point is 01:01:27 that a lot of these stores have social media accounts, but only a small number of people actually follow them. So maybe that's another thing to look into. Maybe they should be interacting with their hardcore customers like you. I would love it. I sing their praises. That's what's going to be sending you stuff after this episode. Ralphs. Yeah, Ralphs. Are those flips that are pretzels on one side, cracker on the other? I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Oh, shit. I love those. Is the supermarket going to go away? I hope not. I would be really sad. It's weird because it is the one. It's trending away, right? When you hear people come to America for the first time, it is the one thing that they're
Starting point is 01:02:00 just like, this doesn't exist anywhere else. It's just like the most beautiful thing to see that you can have 20 different types of chocolate chip cookies in a thing. And Trader Joe's isn't going to go away anytime soon. Those places are packed.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I guess it's like the Kroger's of the world that are trying to be like, how do we make this Kroger pop it? I've noticed that the Ralph's by my house now has both a sushi bar in it and like- A wine bar. Yeah, a wine bar, like super upscale, like beer bar in it for like people to, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:35 hang out and drink next to the fucking produce aisle, which is weird. But I think that's the idea is that you make it this sort of upscale experience. I don't need that. I don't care for that. Also, nobody's there. I would.
Starting point is 01:02:49 You know what I would do? I would go to a supermarket where all the shit was meticulously placed, like someone with OCD arranged it, and just be like, damn, this motherfucker is perfect. That would appeal to me. And also, old stand-up joke, but the fucking shopping carts, they still don't work. Yeah, the shopping carts are gross. And they're also, like, you might as wellup joke, but the fucking shopping carts, they still don't work. Yeah, the shopping carts are gross.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And they're also, like, you might as well be wheeling around a trash dumpster because, like, they're never cleaned. No. That's why I was, when they started putting those, like, hand-wipe stations at the grocery store, I was like, that's right. They even acknowledged that you are walking into a Petri dish of fucking bacteria. My brother is a realtor, and he and he like took out an ad on a supermarket hand wipe station. Oh, wow. That is smart.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I swear. But I love a salad bar. Ooh-wee. Any restaurant with one, but a supermarket, definitely. And do they make me sick? Sometimes. I just love them.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Do they make me sick sometimes? But I'm back there. Right. You said it was such a genuine smile. It's insane. I don't even care. I love it. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I love Crab Louie. Yeah, it's like pooping after Taco Bell. You're like, I still like it. Right. I'm still having problems, but I love it. Yeah. Makes me sick. But only for three days.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Oh, no. It's a good clearing the system. This makes me think of, so there was this article recently. I don't remember what publication it was but they said that supermarkets were the new place where people met others like they're wow you've been married so long you didn't even know how to describe a place where people hook up yeah hook up spot okay uh which i don't think that's true necessarily i've never seen people like start talking to each other at a supermarket who weren't already there together and so i was like when I read that article I was like wait what why
Starting point is 01:04:29 who's writing this like this is such bullshit and I think it's probably whoever is behind this like marketing push to like save supermarkets and make them grammable probably like pitched that story or sent out a you know press release that was you know, like supermarkets or they did like some sort of small bullshit study with like a zero sample size. Or someone was like, we met at your store. Now we're married. Oh, yeah. Let's capitalize on that. I think in L.A. that very much could be true.
Starting point is 01:04:59 But I don't really – and I've been to a lot of supermarkets and a lot of different markets. And I just don't see that being true. But here people like look good, especially during pilot season. Oh, my God. You'll go in and be like, this bitch has heels on. And like, wow, everybody is just hot. And meanwhile, you're in your LeVar Ball hoodie. Hot to trot titties out.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Right, right. And I'm like, get it. Okay, cool. I got to be doing that. When I go to a supermarket, I'm so like in a zone and probably just like faded that I'm already not really trying to talk to people
Starting point is 01:05:28 like I like the supermarket because I just like to see everything and smell the not interacting yeah it's not the interactive part of it that appeals to me and also I just feel like
Starting point is 01:05:36 how could you even begin a conversation I mean if you're a pickup artist they would be like neg the shit out of the woman's cereal choice and then follow up with your name like oh you be fucking cinnamon toast the woman's cereal choice and then follow up with your name. Like, oh, you be fucking Cinnamon Toast Crunch. That's dumb.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I'm Jeff. Right. And I'm not fucking? Yeah. Maybe when you're in line or something. But you don't see, I feel like airports, people fuck there. People, like, are ready to, like, find affairs at airports.
Starting point is 01:05:59 People fuck there or they, like, meet there? Both, I think. I think they establish it. But then also, oh, my God, they're kissing in the produce aisle. Super producer Anne Hosny is showing us an article from the Wall Street Journal, and the cover photo is just people making out in front of her while she's holding a bell pepper.
Starting point is 01:06:13 But clearly married people. That's a fucking stock photo. Those are not two people who met at the supermarket. People who are making out. It looks like a middle-aged married couple kissing each other on the cheek. But maybe they met there. See, this is the new hookup. And the headline on the article
Starting point is 01:06:26 is the hottest social scene in town isn't the singles bar, it's the supermarket. Well, a singles bar That's from the Wall Street Journal. Someone was like, hey man, our stock is crumbling.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Can you even lie slightly? They're like, yeah, we're the Wall Street Journal. I see a lot of videos of old people meeting young people at the supermarket. You know, like little kids
Starting point is 01:06:44 hugging old people. I think that type super you know like little kids hugging old people right i think that type of interaction is going on like there was like a girl who just was like waving at everybody and being like i love you or like and this old man had just been going through a tough time i watch every single video about old people and they like created this beautiful friendship i will like send it to you it so amazing. His wife had died and he had just been kind of a hermit grump and then met this four-year-old girl and she changed his life. They met at a supermarket.
Starting point is 01:07:12 But her mom was with her. Yeah, of course. It doesn't get weird. It was sweet. The youthful exuberance made him believe again. I love taking my son food shopping. You got two? What? exuberance made him believe again. I love taking my son food shopping. You have a son?
Starting point is 01:07:26 He's got two. He added one since the last time you were here. You should try and get them a supermarket friend. Yeah, exactly. We're out there. We're putting it out there. These old people just aren't picking it up. You're like, hey, what about him? Maybe he's not old enough.
Starting point is 01:07:41 He's about to turn two. He's super into it. He just loves it. He's about to turn two. Oh, I think that's good. But he's super into it. Like, he just, like, loves. It's stimulating. A lot of color. Wow, it's so funny. Now that you just say that, that's the same reason why I like the supermarket. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Because it's just a bunch of shit to look at. And I hate when the fucking labels, you know, like, I revealed I'm a Virgo, so I like the perfection. And, you know, oh, my God, a Japanese supermarket? Woo! This shit is so properly laid out. Wow. Even if you have a local Japanese supermarket in your city in America so properly laid out. Wow. Even if you have
Starting point is 01:08:05 a local Japanese supermarket in your city in America, check it out. Check it out. Because the way they are putting their shit on the shelves, second to none. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Megan. That's my plug for the Japanese supermarket industry. Megan, it has been a pleasure having you. Thank you so much. Where can people find you? Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:21 my website's about to be up and running again. It got hacked by a Thai porn company, but I've gotten it back. Are we for real? For real. But I've gotten it back. I've been in a dispute, and I now am the proud owner again of MeganGaley.com.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Hell yeah. So you can go there. My Instagram's BetterMeganGaley, and my Twitter's MeganGaley. I'm on the road a lot in the next two months. How are you spelling that, Megan Gailey? M-E-G-A-I-N-G-A-I-L-E-Y. Wow. That was quick.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You guys all got that, I'm sure. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:09:03 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! We link off to the articles and information that we used in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on, which, Miles, why don't you tell them what that is? Okay, so I love this artist called Sevda lisa she is an iranian dutch uh singer she's got like this spooky songstress vibe and i just found
Starting point is 01:09:33 out that she put an album out last month and i didn't know so i started listening to this morning the first track fucking fever track i'm not gonna lie to you guys sometimes miles is playing the song that we're gonna to write out on, and, you know, it doesn't necessarily jump out at me. This is one of the ones where I was like, yo, who is this? That's how I know, because Zach wrote, who's this? What is this? It sounded like, yeah, this is something you could put a bath on,
Starting point is 01:09:56 light the candles to, you know, put your LeVar Ball hoodie on, give yourself a pep talk. Yeah, a bath banger, a bathker. And this is, yeah, Seb DeLee's a new song called Soul Syncable. And it's just great. It's vibing. You're going to love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:10 We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Terima kasih telah menonton! Thank you. It hurts Because you're growing You can escape And keep you awake No more days of the day No more scared away I hate my life.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I really did. Do you see this as incomplete? Do you see this as incomplete? Thank you. Bye. I keep doing See, see these thoughts See, see these thoughts Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History,
Starting point is 01:13:45 is back. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito
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