The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Fu: The Legend Continues… 12/15: Bondi Beach Shooting, Rob Reiner, Merriam-Webster, Christmas Tree Farms vs. AI Farms

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

In this edition of Trend Fu: The Legend Continues…, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Bondi Beach shooting, the murder of Rob Reiner (featuring a truly unhinged Trump response), Merriam-Webster's word of the year: Slop, Virginia Christmas tree farms vs AI farms, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

reminds me I looked up I looked up gung ho the other day I was like this got to be racist the movie with Michael Keaton no no no no no the phrase I was like oh because I was every time I come across like something that's just in our vernacular oh yeah yeah you got that's like that's like kind of a nonsense now I just look it up because it's like I remember last last time I did this I looked up cakewalk which is racist yeah yeah right exactly um but gung ho is it's not necessarily racist but it's definitely comes from imperialism yeah it's a misinterpretation of a chinese phrase but thank god it's not like the most racist interpretation that you can think of yeah so i still feel like you can use uh gung ho

it does feel very good phrase gung ho comes from the chinese phrase gonghi meaning work together slogan for Chinese industrial cooperatives in the 1930s. Gung-ho, I feel like when I hear it is like, man, that guy's really gung-ho. Yeah, like, he, like, P. Diddy, that guy's gung-ho. Guys, gung-ho for his grind set. This is, I mean, it's wild, though, too, because when you said that, I was like the Michael Keaton movie about the Japanese car maker in the Pennsylvania factory. And then I'm like, wait, they're talking about a Chinese phrase to do some like 80s

Japanese shit. Did you, do you ever see that movie? Michael Keaton movie 1986 movie where Michael Keaton is he has to like get his auto plant going but these Japanese people come through

to like show him how shit's done and it's a very like you guys do shit like this and we do it like this and then they find a harmonious middle meaning they listen to Getty Wadenaabe they all like get together and have like drunk farmers are the American version

is it like the underdog of Americans being fucking idiots. Just two clashing cultures, man. They learn from each other, man. They learn from each other. It's actually good when you forget to screw on some of the parts.

That's... No big deal. Those people don't care. Be like haptic... Tinkering with cars. Damn, gung-ho's got a 39%. How? Probably a bunch of freaking Japanese film critics.

Yeah, right. my mom. Yeah, Miles' mom. My friggin' mom. Thanks, Mom. I don't want to say anything. Well, you kept going. But it was pretty specific.

You kept mouthing. You're a mom. You're a mom. But it was so funny, though, too. I remember back in the day, though, we would be so excited to just see Asian people. And it didn't even matter the racism because you're like, oh, my God, dude. They're talking about Asians. Oh, it's bad.

Whatever. Hey, we'll take what we can get. We saw the new red. Dawn remake. Like my mom, she even has, she still will watch Tea House of August moon,

which is Marlon Brando doing yellow face. Like, it's, I don't even know if they make this shit anymore. Like, like to buy. But my mom,

she has that shit on DVD. She was like, bro, I love Marlon Brando. I'm like, mom, this is fucked up. Marlon Brando is definitely

one of those people. Like I talk about John Belushi, the people who are like past generations get away with it. God damn man they're fucking this guy's a genius and I just like don't see it at all it's just like they must have

it's like someone who's like inventing a light bulb and you're just like impressive to me is it like what do the ones get him the real his big credits or like what Stanley Kowalski and street car named Desire or like on the waterfront I feel like when I think of Marlon Brando's like quote unquote like acting so I was like

And I'm like, all right. Still! Yeah. And I'm like, bro, you could have hit that better. He's always yelling some shit. That's what I think of with Brando. The reason my mom looks past it because she just was like. Or his late era where he's fat and sweaty all the time.

Yeah. Like Apocalypse now or Moreau. Yeah, he looks like one of his own creations from the island of Dr. Moreau. Yeah. But like for my mom, it's just because she was so enamored with him. She's so handsome. She's so handsome.

that I like when he plays the Japanese character, Sakini. But I don't see that either. Like, he doesn't look particularly handsome to me. Does he seem that handsome? I think that's like the Asian games on like white people. Did what's his name? Did a homeboy from Kung Fu look particularly like anything? David Carradine.

Oh, David Carradine? The hottest man. But, I mean, that's, it's impossible to look back. I never watched that show. Was he supposed to be Asian in that or was he supposed to be white? Yeah, was he? I never actually watched. Who the fuck is you?

The legend continued. Because I think when we were young, the legend continues was out. Because there was the original Kung Fu show, right? And then the legend continues was the one that was out in the 90s when I was like, who the fuck are these people? I like remember is that the show is incredibly boring for something called Kung Fu and there wasn't a lot of fighting. Wasn't it like a Western where he just goes from town to town and?

There's something like, what about this shit? It wasn't particularly interesting. I love how weird. What about catch these hands? We're not even looking to see. Okay, fine. Kung Fu. Oh my God.

In which Kwai Chang-Kane returns. Who's Kwai-Chang-Kane? Please tell me it's not, David. You know it is, baby. You know it is. That's my boy, Quay-Chank. Hey, but you throw cane on there because you know he's half. Oh, yeah.

Look, they like made him, I mean, they shaved his head and then like, I don't know. I think they were like, his eyes when he kind of squints them. could do it. Yeah, he's like, they just told the director told him to do a fucking safety squint. Yeah. And they yellowed him up a little bit. God, damn. Oh, so he is, so Kwai Chan Kane, orphan son of the, and of an American, Thomas Henry Kane, and a Chinese woman, Kwai Lin.

Okay. I wonder how that happened. Hey, don't worry. Don't ask how we got white our families either, you know what I mean? But Bruce, Bruce Lee, your family, was supposed to be. Bruce Lee was supposed to star in that. That was his project. And then they were like,

Wow. And Caridine is second on the fucking call sheet. What the fuck? Why would, was he? Please tell me he's Asian or some shit, bro. All right. If he grew up in Oakland, maybe, I'll give him that. That's close enough.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Dern Daily Nightgay! My name is Jack O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, man, yeah. Okay, I'm just getting over the line. I'm just getting over the line. here as we get to Friday. Thank you for everybody who subbed in my stead as I was dealing with. It wasn't quite the flu. I don't know. This is one of these things. We couldn't put the finger on it. But I was, look. You were also still submitting stories to the doc while you were sick.

Because I'm a millennial who doesn't know how to rest. And therefore, I was just reading about all these terrible treats we have. No, no, it's my fault, Jack. It's society's fault. Society's fault. Society's fault. All right. Well, this is the episode where we tell you what was happening over the weekend and also let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you some things that we think are overrated, underrated miles.

You want to kick us off with something you think is underrated? Underrated. That we are not talking about Erica Kirk in the context of Sean Puffy Combs. She is Puff Daddy. She is doing what Puff Daddy did with the notorious B.I.G to what her husband. do a remix Remix of every step you take Yes she's about to be dancing in the rain

Climbing up mountains with kids and shit All of that all of the It's like it's like so You know like I think we all saw this You know in real time Right right after Biggie died like That suddenly made Puff Daddy even bigger

Right yeah And there's a lot of questions into that shit Like it was a Everywhere was like Pops got like it was a double Dutch game That he had been timing out He's like, and here I go. Oh, I miss you big.

Oh, I miss you big. How'd you have that song written already? What? Oh, sorry. That song, okay, so I was with Sting, actually. This is a really funny story. Somebody was telling me recently, they watched the Puff Daddy documentary and they were like, and you know, he killed Biggie too.

So I started watching that. That was Blair, who was saying that. Blair, that's right. Like matter of fact, that's just like what happened. I was like, I don't think that's the official story. I always have a thing like when white people say very matter-of-factly things about hip-hop, even if they just watch a documentary, I go, hmm. And then I started watching it.

And I'm at the point where they were talking about how basically that Puff Daddy was really getting like the Southside Crips in L.A. to like putting pressure on them to kill Tupac. And like they sort of paint this whole picture about how Pock and Bigg, like, we're really good friends. But Puffy like just didn't have the same pole with Biggie. And he's like, I need to fucking figure this shit out. All that to say. With Erica Kirk, it's a similar thing where, like, a lot of, I mean, even to a more extreme extent, because at least Bad Boy was a label and there are other artists, but let's be real, Biggie was the one bringing in all the money and all the recognition. The turning point is the new bad boy.

And she, the way, like, there's all this getting out in public, to the point where even like the people who support Turning Point are like, it's kind of like not, doesn't seem like she's grieving. It kind of seems like she's just kind of like taking this thing by the reins. And I just feel like we should use the example of Puff Daddy to realize that this is a thing that happens when the pop-in member of a crew, you know, is lost. You got to figure out how to keep the money machine on because especially with like Charlie Kirk, they still post from his Twitter account. They still post from like the YouTube channel. There's no sense of like sanctity around that. They're like, no, this feed, this RSS feed is so fucking valuable. we cannot have that turnoff

for a moment and I just see those are like the posthumous Tupac tracks where they like he had these all stored up yeah well because it's also

like if you see the other people in the turning point crew they also do other versions keep on them to a crew the turning point crew the most pop member of the turning point crew

other people like we miss you Charlie I remember you this you used to love sweet potato pie and like to the point where it just feels like they're evoking the name

to get engagement and because I think it's really clear in this era of social media and, like, digital consumption, you can kind of see, you can kind of draw a line to why certain things are posted in the way that they are. So again, like, I don't know if Erica Kirk had anything to do with Tupac's murder, but again, I just see similarities. And I'm just saying, like, I think this is a good example of looking at somebody who I'm not, you have trouble wondering, like, did they mean a lot to you? Or do you know that the brand means a lot to you? And I'm just having trouble figuring that out. And a lot of people will say it's sexist to say that she's like being opportunist. It's sexist not to compare her to Puff Daddy.

Yeah. Okay. If it was a man who was stepping in and being like I'm doing five post-Charlie interviews a day about like, you know, how much I miss him. But then like being on there. not really seeming to. I feel like we'd have we'd be having that conversation. But it is a very biggie thing where everyone's grifting on the moment in ways, like in every way they can't.

Like even Candice Owens has like this whole conspiracy theory beef going with them. Because it's getting her the most engagement fucking ever to be stuff like, what's with these Egyptian planes that were following Charlie around? Like just weird shit all the time. What is it with that? What is it? It seems weird to me. I'm just asking a question.

I'm just following the questions, you know. I'm just getting some engagement, baby. That's right. All right. My underrated is just like the temporary insanity of like being Christmas brained, being like drunk on the holiday season. Like not drunk on Christmas day, but drunk on like Christmas. You know what I mean? What are you getting like?

Like I don't like I don't get to. I get the Christmas brain part like you've. completely lost yourself to the idea of whatever Christmas is like notice more and more like each year that the world all collectively loses its fucking mind gets like holiday season induced shit-facedness that lasts for a couple weeks we're all just sort of like doing things we normally wouldn't like what yeah how do you see that manifest i'd say the candy cane is a great example i've talked before like it tastes like toothpaste but because it's got these memories and i iconography tied to it.

We accept it as like a classic candy for exactly three weeks a year. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're just like, blah. Wait, are you, you see adults the day after? Do you see adults eating them? I mean, they're putting them out. I know that. I have not seen, I've only seen children eating candy canes.

But why are they doing that? Nerds Rope exists. What is happening? Yeah, call that like, yeah, you should call it like Rudolph's, Rains, or Nerds Ropes. there you go. Perfect. Rudolph Dix. Nah.

Nah, Rudolph Rains is better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, just make a, make a nerds rope that is striped red and white. What else do you see?

Okay, so the candy cage, you're like, okay, let's be able to. I'm just finding myself going back to the same 40-song playlist

and it hits harder than like any music I listen to all year. Like normally I'm like, I want to listen to new music. I want to hear, you know, new stuff that's interesting.

And then for two weeks, I'm just like, this one, like this same one every year. I had holiday parties this weekend and just did my standard thing. I've talked about this before wearing, I have like a Christmas light necklace from like a drive-in movie during the pandemic when we were all going to like outdoor drive-in theaters during the pandemic. Yeah.

And it's still, it's still going. It's true miracle. Yeah. But it was such a hit. everyone's just here like that shit is essentially the equivalent of like bringing one of those light up swords that you get at like the dixel outside of the circus like it's essentially like just the cheapest light up bullshit and you wear it to a christmas party and everyone's like yo exactly you look great you're like jack get in here can i see can you turn it on oh my god wow I feel like we watched some holiday movies for our holiday episodes that was like right outside of my normal Christmas window. And so I could like see them with clear eyes, you know, like Home Alone.

I was like, damn, this movie is fucked up. And then I watched Home Alone too more recently with the family. And you're like, yes. And I was like, yeah, I was doing the, I was doing the fist pumps with Kevin. Right. Is he like mutilated those people? You're like, I'm Peter McAllister. the father

damn bro that shit's sick right dude I did drop the what's a matter store wouldn't accept your stolen credit card that was a like that was a memorable line everyone knew and everyone just like kind of looked over like what the fuck is wrong with you're holding a talk boy in your hand as you watch and then it does

it's kind of like I don't know it's like horniness a little bit and that it like gets more or more as you get closer to the day and then it's over and you're just you just look around and you're just like, what the fuck was that? Yeah.

You know, it just goes away like all of a sudden. You're just like, closing that laptop real quick after. Yeah, cleaning up, cleaning up a bunch of wrapping paper and shit. What is this?

Being like, man, that really got away from it. It's the regression of it that for me that's so alluring is that it truly, it's like certain songs would be like, man, I remember I was 14 when this shit came out. Oh,

it's like such a good time. But Christmas is so nailed on, and everyone's like, hey, y'all, we're doing this together, right? We're all fucking losing our minds or just acting like we're kind of like kids or some shit because everything else is so fucking grim. That's kind of how, I think that's one of the engines that drives me, as I always tell it in my house, as Her Majesty knows, in our house we do white woman Christmas. What is that? Because I've said this many times. I'm so into Christmas because I just didn't have Christmas really in my house. I would get like gifts here and there or whatever, but it was never like a let's put

up a tree, let's do all this other stuff, which was fine because I wasn't really, I was there for the gifts. But I remember going to like my friend's houses, like white kids were like their, like, with homemakers were fucking transforming the shit into some other, like a fairy tale. I slowly have like now I got like a candle that I like to put out. Okay. I got, we have specific, I'm real specific about these lights that I put out on my garage or whatever, like that looked like the old C5 bulb, incandescent bulbs. And just insisting that like ambiently, it's like fucking the Yankee candle store in here, basically. Yeah, yeah, I'm a complete asshole about like Christmas Day.

like my wife is very like I think it's one of my most annoying traits to her how like judgy I am like this wreath though yeah like could we for someone for you who is famously not very picky about certain things no yeah like you're pretty easy going it's the one thing yeah like art direct to christmas presents on christmas morning I'm like no no no this is all wrong she's like the fuck out of here um but yeah I don't know yeah Brian gives a good example eggnog would we just I will say eggnog is I love agnog. I think eggnogs just

could be an underrated on its own it's I want to holiday parties this weekend no eggnog at either of them I know you can't and I had notes that I will deliver no it just feels like eggnog is

not I think it might also be that like it's the idea is like you put it out in a bowl whole, but it's also like cream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, it's not, it doesn't make a ton of sense as a party drink. Growing up in my house, my grandparents would do this shit where they would have the eggnog, but they would also put a big fucking thing, an ice cream in there to keep it cold,

A, to act as your ice cube, but then also there's no dilution. And what you're getting into it is just the same flavor back into it. And that was our eggnog, that was our eggnog. Yeah, or eggnog ice cream or my, like, My grandparents were like really amazing books. Or they would like flavor the ice cream to have enough like nutmeg and other shit into us. So as it melted, it was still contributing without giving people. They're like, damn, you got the heat on in here and you got this eggnog bowl right under the vent.

I was talking about my Christmas punch, which the three ingredients that I, this was like I thought I was fucking, you know, a real. Really contributing to the Christmas parties when I was a kid. it is a two gallon of sprite a gallon of orange juice and a whole brick of briars vanilla ice cream perfect that's yeah it's great because it just yeah like you said it melts slowly and then it just it has like your parents let you make a thing that was basically like three and a half gallons of liquid to put out yeah they did yeah giant punch ball they trusted you god I guess so it's like the one thing that I was like no wonder you if someone like I guess he can handle these three

these three ingredients so much better adjusted than me my parents sounds right the I got this I got it and if I can do this what else can I do yep Miles what's something you think is overrated just just the fucking amount of

jingle bells is overrated the fucking song this has been every like we're always learning about new things and this has been going around for a while but like I was just looking into the history of jingle bells and I'm like of course it's a fucking minstrel song what the fuck is this oh no I'm like a confederate soldier who was like man I need to get some

fucking money out here doing minstrel shows and the original song was called one horse open sleigh um and then I was like oh it's has okay okay this makes sense this makes sense this all has like everything like so many things like just when we were for the people here when we watch um uh it's a wonderful life when we're like buffalo gals won't you come out tonight and yeah that's all that shit's a fucking earworm huh yeah god damn and then what are the origins of that and then you're like oh hold on um let me just look oh what uh hmm okay so uh i just uh i just had to do that and it's just funny now to see like this comes out every year because this some version of this has been happening for the last like 10 years from what i've seen

on the internet. Like Khalil Green did a big story about it last year. Joy Reid like referenced it and people were like why is this black woman saying it's racist? And it's like so funny where people do this thing where they're like well I like it so it can't be a racist song. And some people are just

merely being like look this is historically where the song comes from. Do with that what you will like whatever. Like I'm not saying we're not saying this is the new fucking Nazi anthem or whatever but historically this is where the song comes. Just FYI. Yeah. And I'm like, well, man, this shit hits.

Is the Batman version taking it back from the forces of capital? I mean, we are talking about a billionaire. That smells like shit. That's true. The Joker gets away. Like, these guys suck shit. Yeah. Or took ballet, depending on where you grew up.

Yeah. Jingle Bells, Batman smells Robin laid an egg. The Batmobile lost a wheel. Wait. Just chaos. It's fucking chaos in that version of the song. What's going on in Gotham? Robin laid an egg

fucking mess man Robin's fucking girl laid an egg dude so anyway girl who got pregnant from another bird overrated is if you do

enough digging on any wonderful American holiday anything don't be surprised at what you find hey speaking of doing enough digging for my overrated

I wanted to talk about the idea that our global systems our energy systems are designed with any precision and forethought. I was reading about geothermal energy over the weekend, which is this, like, massive, abundant source of heating

just based on the fact that shit's hot under the earth. And it's near the core, huh? That's that core really doing a lot of work. Turns out, you go down a little bit. Things get hot. And, like, heating in its current incarnation, which is, like, you know, using fossil fuels and stuff. To make hot.

30% of city's carbon footprint, on average, is, like, heating and geothermal energy is just, like, can be converted directly into heating homes and electricity. And it's like, it's just kind of obvious. And it's right there. And we just weren't doing anything with it because it just wasn't the first thing we thought of. I think it was like we had gas and oil because we were stuck on the idea of burning stuff from like the wood and coal. and like whaling days. So we're like, well, we got to find something else to burn. But I've rendered all this tallow. Yeah,

exactly. And then the first place to like really make the leap was just Iceland out of sheer necessity. Right. When oil prices went up in the 70s, they at that point, they relied on imported fossil fuels for like 75% of all energy. And by the 80s,

like all their homes were heated geothermal. and now like they use it for electricity like they're completely off fossil fuels they have 25% of their electricity comes from geothermal energy the other 75% comes from like uh hydroelectric jack it sounds like you hate america and should maybe just move to iceland i mean it i it but it's possible to do it it's it's possible to do it like they're doing like they're gonna they're trying to convert all of cornell's campus to geothermal and so the thing and this this goes to what I was saying just like the haphazard nature of like the systems that we end up with the reason that it's going to take off and

that it's like starting to take off now is because all of the people who spent their whole careers in Texas and like in around North America figuring out how to drill for oil are like, well, I guess we can use that to drill for... Big, big-ass holes for heat. Yeah, exactly. It's a big-ass hole-based electricity. Yeah. And it's, like, starting to take off, and it's clean...

Like, there's this quote from this guy who, like, when they first were having trouble with energy prices and the fact that the U.S. was dependent on foreign imported fossil fuels, they were like, well we got to come up with something else and they created fracking which is like really damaging and awful so this guy who like spent his whole career doing that is now this huge proponent of um geothermal and is like we voice said around energy that you need three legs reliable clean and cheap and everyone's always like well i can give you two of those but you can't get all three and like this is the first one where it's like no this this has everything

it's down there no matter what it's cheap and it's not going anywhere like and it doesn't poison the globe yeah well I'm sure like probably the biggest argument as to why we can't even have it here is because our grid can't even handle new shit like that it's very special like I get why Cornell can do it because it's like a small you know

they don't need to completely revolutionize the grid and that's always like the argument it's like well we got to like invest in this shit or something so let's just burn dinosaur goo. Yeah. They're in the process of like trying to get people to invest and it's wild that you can't even mention the fact that it's clean because that's like a bad word in modern America. Like that is a turnoff. This is a thing. It like doesn't heat the globe. But the fact that it's abundant and cheap and root, you know, do that those are the things that are getting

it off the ground. People got to do the Mamdani money dance. Okay. Just be like it's cheap. Yeah. well what about this it's cheap let me just put it this way it's i heard it's i don't give a fuck if it's clean that's what people say i don't give a shit if it's clean i'm here because it's cheap that's right y'all want cheap energy then let's fucking go here's if it's clean that's just a bonus so early stages but it does seem promising i don't know we'll we'll see either way it seems promising because got all these fucking drills that i don't know what to do with so dumb All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

We'll talk about some of the news from the weekend. We'll be right back. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fail and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through you got 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help

is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galooski, I said, you're going to see my face to the day that you die.

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I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends. People I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show.

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And we're back. We're back. It was a fucking tragic weekend in many respects. so the two mass shootings yeah i mean of that were like got to the you know mainstream news and a rob reiner murder yeah horrible that was fucking grim um yeah super grim uh we'll start out with the mass shooting in australia at bondi beach um with uh two people who targeted a jewish community at a honica event on Bondi Beach took the lives of 15 people dozens more injured the country's deadliest incidents since 1996 uh which you may remember is when they like put in a bunch of gun laws oh is that the port arthur massacre was 1996 yeah and they were like okay well no more of this

shit right so prime minister anthony albinase uh responded to the news with uh the usual thoughts and oh wait no he immediately pledged to tighten the country's gun control laws whoa yeah you did stop politicizing this wait i didn't realize i'm like i thought they were i thought it was damn near impossible to get a gun but it's clearly he's like well we can actually do a lot more which i guess i mean credit with some gun laws you can stop most mass shootings but uh the person the who uh one of the uh shooters had these guns legally based on like Australian laws and so they're like

well that wasn't working in that case and so we're going to make gun control even stricter which is horrible that responding to a thing by being like well let's see where how we could stop this

going forward is like seems crazy right yeah it's again because our the logic that we apply to legislating in this country is so poisoned by like lobbying and outside groups that you'd be like, dang these knives keep hurting all

the, we keep putting the babies in the knife room, what should we do? It's like maybe take the knives out, nah, nah, no, that, okay, the babies need fucking, babies need knife-proof skin. They need knife-proof skin that we can develop. And it's, again, in this instance, we have a gun problem, let's solve it by

eliminating the access, the easy access to weapons, or at least in this case, make it even harder to access weapons. The hero of the story is a bystandard name Ahmed al-Akmaid, a 43-year-old fruit shop owner who literally ran at the shooter, unarmed, tackled him, took his gun away from him, and then didn't, you know, just stop, like probably saved countless lives, but just do you see that clip?

Yeah, it's amazing. This guy fucking just sneaks up on him and just bare. hugs him and then he got shot twice in the arm i think in in the hospital uh recovering they think he's gonna uh recover but he's yeah just ran up on him and and took it away from him like pretty pretty quickly um i was like okay was this guy part of it was oh damn uh the character that chris pratt played in zero dark 30 was there i was like no he was just a fruit shop owner who was like really brave. Yeah.

And then so, but he must have had a gun on him for him to be that brave. Right. Well, yeah, because the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a brave fruit shop owner

with a gun except no, he just ran up with nothing but his hands and took the gun away and then got shot himself. Wow. This is, well. And then,

yeah, and after this story, wouldn't you know it? Benjamin Netanyahu is out here basically blaming the prime minister for supporting a Palestinian state. Yeah. Like,

what the fuck? is how is that your first response? And I think this has always been the huge glaring issue with pro-Zionist propaganda is they want to make everyone think that the state of Israel is representative of every Jewish person in the world and the religion itself. And so, again, the idea that connecting like the atrocities that we see being committed by like Israel to the religion of Judaism was always...

To confuse what anti-Semitism is. This is anti-Semitism. This is... Exactly. Was always an... obscene notion that may help in the short term to silence people in a rhetorical sense. Right. I'd be like, well, don't do that.

It's anti-Semitism. And now people would be like, wait, is it? I'm just talking about like what I saw these soldiers do. There's nothing to do with the religion. But was always going to lead to this kind of thing. And just for him to, I mean, this is, I'm not surprised, but Jesus Christ. Like maybe your hearts go out to these people first before truly trying to like turn this into and that's why you have to accept everything that the IDF does right is pretty yeah pretty

horrifying um and speaking of a shocking yet not shocking response to a senseless horrifying act of violence uh as as mentioned rob riner and his wife were found murdered in their home uh you know director of some great 80s movies and i you know uh this is spinal tap and Princess Bride and just a long he's like one of those filmmakers where you're like oh wait he made that too yeah when Harry met Sally when Harry met Sally did he do stand by me too I think or did he write that I think he did do stand by me yeah yeah but yeah that's another like it's just like all these classics that don't like you wouldn't necessarily assume they were made by the same person

um so horrifying um people uh Sunday night people magazine alleged that the killer was their son Nick who had struggled with substance abuse in the past and had been like estranged and then come back with the family and then TMZ reported on Monday morning that he was in police custody I mean it's still very early

and it does seem like everyone was like son did it right away but so I mean but we don't know all the details still very early here as we're recording this but in terms of like the response so so a bunch of somebody was like Reiner hated Trump so brace yourself for some nasty comments coming from the megaverse so Jeremy London Sir Jeremy London wrote that on on social media and a lot of

right-wing people were like actually we're better than that. Jack Pesobiac said you won't see people on the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and his wife compared to the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder we do not operate that way that's the difference nothing but thoughts and prayers from our side Chris Plantee show

Chris Plano, whoever the fuck that is yes unlike Democrats when Charlie Kirk was assassinated you won't find a single prominent conservative who will celebrate this RIP Rob and Michelle Ryan are very sad just the interesting no one specifically said prominent conservative because um were there prominent voices i feel like

there were shit posters all over the internet saying horrible shit after charlie kirk died but like was it it wasn't like a prominent what like biden wasn't out here like saying wild shit it wasn't uh zoron didn't come out and say say some shit and most of the time people weren't saying wild shit about charlie kirk yeah it was just you you found it and and used it as fodder for your persecution complex. But Q Donald Trump, who dropped this one on R.S. A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner tortured and struggling,

but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife, Michelle. Reportedly, this is reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, an incurable affliction with a mind-cripling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome. Sometimes referred to as TDS. Oh, TDS, yes. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of Donald J. Trump.

And his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness. And with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps like never before, may Robin Michelle rest in peace. Oh, he ended on a good note. I guess we can... Sorry, fam, you did this to yourself with your Trump derangement syndrome. Got your ass. What, though?

Brian Headers said, landed the plane. He did say, may Rob and Michelle rest it? I wonder if that's like how they're going to defend this. Yeah, yeah. He said rest in peace at the end. The first and last sentences sounded normal. He said a very sad thing happened. May he rest in peace?

And then the middle was like, you did this to yourself, asshole. You did this to yourself. me and actually this was like he's almost like he's like a terrorist organization taking credit for an attack right like for a murder is why it is right this is right this is part of the holy war of people defending my good name um what fucking like truly hard for him to surprise yeah anymore yeah but But really an unbelievable, just, what the fuck? Yeah.

Like how people are like, Trump is trolling. Like that, what? What? That's not a thing that you do. Well, they have to do, they have to use every weird excuse to explain why grandfather's dementia is getting out of control and say everything except that it's cognitive decline. And also that he's just a straight up evil asshole.

so if you can't say look he's an evil asshole of course he's going to say this or look dude the guy's losing his fucking brain you gotta be like he's trolling he likes to do that

he's just in touch with the shit posters of the world that's fun being provocative I mean it's so wild then on top of it right

there was a shooting at Brown University where at least I think at the time of this recording I think two people were dead and like nine injured and then Trump at a like a

Christmas gathering said quote Brown University great school really one of the greatest schools anywhere in the world things can happen so to the nine injured get well fast

into the family of those two that are no longer with this I pay my deepest regards and respects damn really well put you know things can happen to like speaking fucking

fucking saying things can happen holy shit but again we should not expect more from a person like a narcissist who's just circling the drain cognitive.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's where we're at. But Jesus. Yeah. It was fucking dark. All right. Let's take a quick break.

We'll come back and talk about other news. We'll be right back. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fail and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I sit through with y'all 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help

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Please enjoy responsibly. Hey, there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone.

Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets, infertility, and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about.

It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all?

It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly.

The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo. Somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget.

We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got?

What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back.

All right. We got Merriam Webster's word of the year. Thank God. We had a different Oxford maybe. I think it's Dictionary.com. Were they 6.7? I don't know. Yeah.

Dictionary.com was 6.7 because they're like, yeah, my friend's a fucking teacher and he hates. it. So I'm going to remember like we were reading about like one of the editors of it was purely because a friend of theirs was a teacher and was driving them mad. They're like, In your face, Craig. It's our word of the year. Oxford was rage bait. Oxford was rage bait. And now we got Merriam Webster's, which is flop. Yep. Good. I think that's That feels right. Of all of them, that felt the most accurate. Like six, seven, you did that to spite your friend. Not, I mean, I get it. It's everyone's saying it. It has taken over.

it's in a way that really only resonates with people who are in or are like who are in classrooms around children whatever after that point most people like what the fuck you're talking about but slop i think in the context of how they're talking about it this year because this was truly the year of basically what they're talking was like a i slop yeah yeah i mean slop was already a word yeah yeah yeah i feed my kids when they're bad exactly you know from the 1700s actually to mean soft mud, but it, quote, evolved more generally to mean something of little value. The definition has since expanded to mean, quote, digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence.

And between apps like SORA and, you know, the president just loving it, it's really just become part of like the mainstream. Like to the point where I even have to like tell my mom, like, I'm like, this is slop nonsense. This is AI slop. I'm sorry. Because it's like, it's one thing if you. know and you're like ha ha ha whatever i'm moving on my day but to get like hung up on it where my mom like this can you believe what this bear is doing i'm like what the fuck why would play in the accordion no it was like it was like at a it was like tending a campfire

that's awesome like poking the embers like some shit and i was like i'm like why the fuck it has no concept of fire how to maintain a fire and she's like i just thought it was smart and i'm like all y'all boomers really just i think because they their media literacy ends at if it's on tv it's true right and if someone recorded it it's true that's kind of where it ends it's it's confusing times they got me with the uh with the deer and the bunny on the yeah you love that one you love that one but look i do love that one i mean look without sora we wouldn't have been able to see what the price is right would have looked like if bob barker was a london and Roadman speaking patois to the audience.

Is that one? Oh, there's so many Bob, like, Patwa, Bob Barker, yeah. I mean, that's good work. Let's distinguish here between bad slop and good slap. It's like just one of those things where you're just like, ah, it's, because again, it's basically let's people rank out a dumb idea, but the amount, but also this content has taken over everything, like Pinterest. is all nonsense

images YouTube reels is so much fucking wacky ass AI slop meant to look just just close enough

to reality where you go like damn how that guy do that in his car with his dog driving did you see the one of the guy

from who the tweaking AI executive and like they just had him doing like an incredible pummel horse

routine on a seat like his squirminess like moved yeah his squirminess like turned into him being like

doing some pommel horse shit I mean like this is where I do feel bad because this does take the work from political satirists who read cartoons because that would have been

a cartoon yeah yeah and now but I think that's like the difference too is like sometimes when you see the real video version

it's like okay yeah the slop is you know It has taken over, you know, it's taken over ads. It's taken over, like, you know, all over the place. Like, Donald Trump is posting himself shitting on people.

So, like, it's, it is bad. It's also interesting, like, there was this moment where they're, like, we're really, like, seeing increased results with these, like, machine learning algorithms. And, like, we, we used it to decode, like, protein structures, like, faster than we could have. Like, what do we use this for? And, like, when you think of AI as a brand, like, this is what they've gone with is something that's called flop. Because they have to scale it. That's the problem is, like, it wasn't good enough to be like, well, we can incrementally work on this thing that clearly has a use case in these specific instances.

Right. But then because so many of these people who had these companies also, like, lack any real world connection, they're like, oh, my God, dude, Will Smith eating spaghetti? Was he actually eating that? No. oh my god yes dude when people see this they're gonna fucking flip out how's he eating so much spaghetti yeah and you cut to like everything we've seen too even with like the other programs there's company after company that signs these like enterprise deals for like large scale use of like an AI product they kick it down to their workers they don't use it anymore and then

you see all these companies who are basically like after the fact like yeah we tried it's just like not really working productivity was down a little bit yeah there was a lot of that going around this weekend. All right. And finally, in a related story, Christmas tree farms. Like, fucking get out of the way. Move, bitch. Get out of the way. What happened in Christmas tree farms?

So, Fox News had a story about how there's a Christmas tree farm in Maryland that is getting in the way that's like, I don't want your high voltage power line to cut through my Christmas tree farm because it's like bad for the fucking

environment or whatever but they need like it's going to be very inconvenient for these businesses they're going to have to spend money to reroute the power lines already not profitable and never will be

so this is annoying but like this is an inevitability people need their slop wait so they are oh the Maryland Christmas tree farm is saying don't bring your high voltage power lines to power a fucking data center yes

Northern Virginia which Northern Virginia you know only good stuff is happening with their applications of AI you know you got the CIA there so the Pentagon

so it's going to be good stuff happening and so Fox Business Networks Dagan McDowell said that everyone should just suck it up and quote buy a fake tree instead of holding up

quote growth and development of business shut the fuck up dude I wonder what like what do Fox business viewers think when they hear someone be like, man, fuck that, you're getting

in the way of growth and development that I'm experiencing? Straight up the bad guy from a Christmas movie. Yeah. You're just like, to burn this fucking Christmas tree farm down, you can have a fake plastic tree and it's going to be fine. Doesn't need to even be

realistic. Just shut the fuck up. Okay, hold on. Let's hear from Dagan. Dagan McDowell. So this farm is 150 acres. Yeah, they're going to be farms And there will be transmission lines That have to go through

Developments and farms That's the very nature of a growing economy Like Everybody Because your points bullshit Cat got your tongue Get out of the way Just got to make the power

The fucking line Okay, go on, maybe there's more To get on board I just don't It's a you know what You know what Buy a fake tree oh oh

a dagger right in my heart what I have a fake tree oh I have a oh that take didn't go down no time for this I know I can't afford the tree shut up shut the fuck up

you're out here doing capitalist fucking propaganda you can't afford a fucking tree capitalist propaganda under a header there's a big header over the thing that says rise of AI

and they're telling Christmas tree farms to get the fuck out the way this is on Fox was freaking out about Portland disrespecting a Christmas tree by calling it a holiday tree like

two weeks ago. Right, right, right. Being like, the war on Christmas is back and then their own people. Because, you know, the Fox News version of a fake tree would be like, well, you know all the fake trees are made in China. And we need to go if it's America first, baby,

why are we, we got all these trees we can fucking shop down that you can have and then throw in the street in January. very, well, at least our panelists were like, oh, Dagan, no. Like, Deegan, what the fuck? It's as if she was doing like a racist take. Like if I were like a normal network, they'd be like, oh, no, let's not do that.

Come on now. Oh, God. Oh, you're going there. You're going there. I know. I can't afford the tree. I got a fake, I can't afford it. I got a fake tree that's bleeding me dry.

I think you're using it wrong. What do you mean you can't afford you because they aren't fucking expensive as hell. I've seen the inverted trees? like inverted fake trees there's a whole thing I was I was looking at where there's these trees that are just oriented with the tip end

down at the base and then it flares up like a fucking like a trump like a bell of a trumpet and this is like something that you can buy for your home yes this is like the I guess it's like a new wave like of fake trees I mean I love that that's fun

I would feel like I was like at a fun museum exhibit or something it's different enough presence underneath it's different yet familiar enough where you're like huh if there's something obscene you're showing me a picture of it and it looks drunk it looks like i'm about to like look up its skirt or something you know what i mean or it looks like or it's so big it looks like it looks like it's like it's about to about to slide on you like what the fuck this big ass tree but anyway there's all kinds of weird is this for satanist smiles exactly it's for stranger things fans because this year that's right

Celebrate in the upside down. We're all on the upside down. But you can fit more presents under the tree, which, again, that is woke. To get your children a bunch of Christmas presents is woke. Donald Trump has said, buy less Christmas presents for children. The economy is struggling. And if you're complaining about that, fuck you. Get fuck.

Yeah. Sorry. What do you want me to fucking do about it? Just because I said I would lower prices day one. Just good old fashioned conservative values of embracing the rise of AI. to tear down Christmas trees because Christmas doesn't matter anyways and you don't have to buy that many presents for your kids. You've summed it up.

Swish. Fox News for the last 15 years. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines.

Well, you still can. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Wow. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Baye Wayne.

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