The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Gary Trend Ross 3/10: Silicon Valley Bank, Jenna Ortega, The Oscars, BBC

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

In this edition of Trend Gary Trend Ross, Jack and super producer Justin discuss the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank, Jenna Ortega in 'Beetlejuice 2'?, The Oscars vs. The Last of Us, and the BBC censoring David Attenborough for being too woke?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trend Gary, Trend Ross. What is it? Coffees for closers and ABC always be closing, always be trending. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer justin connor hi yo i don't know why i turned into like a morning zoo guy i guess that's the vibe i don't know i've never said hi yo in my life my god you always say hi don't that's my thing yeah that's what we all say in chicago in this reason hi yo yeah you say hi yo you got the j man that's usually how you greet people uh i don't know why you're pretending otherwise.

It's J-rock. It's the J-rock. It's the J-rock. That's right. How are you doing? I'm doing all right. I'm actually enjoying this rainy LA weather. It makes me feel like we have seasons for a few hours.

So that's always nice yeah as you were saying before we started recording uh j-rock loves to get wet i think is what you were saying yeah as you were passing me you were passing me that you know in the car i know you like to get wet j-rock that's right um all right well these are some of the things that are trending um people do come here for our trenchant uh market analysis and who do we have it for you today because silicon valley bank just cratered or got had to be taken over by the regulators and we know that's never good because regulators are the devil but But the FDIC took them over because of major problems that they're having. You know what I just realized, Jack?

A music business degree really prepares you to talk about this kind of thing. You know what I mean? I'm fully immersed in it. I'm kidding. I don't know what the fuck is going on. in it. I'm kidding. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I guess this is bad

and you're going to need to explain this to me because I don't know. I'm not a bank guy. Well, that makes two of us who are going to need me to explain this to them. Some things I know. It's one of the biggest bank collapses of all time in US history.

So that seems not good.S. history. Okay. Seems not good. Yeah. Jim Cramer, I'm like worried for his The veins in his forehead. Yes, because he, like we saw how hard he took it when Facebook was like cratering

and he had just told everybody to buy Facebook stock and like he started crying on air. Well, unfortunately for Jim Cramer, he is in an industry where he's just like, it's a pre-meteorologist time and he's just predicting the weather very confidently. And at the top of his lungs on TV, like he just, it's complete randomness. And he goes on there and is like, you gotta buy this stuff. So apparently a month ago, Kramer urged viewers to buy Silicon Valley bank stock.

And yeah, this is all nonsense. It's all a fiction that has been concocted. Didn't he go all in on crypto too? Like he was super against it and then he was like really into it. Got worn down. Yeah. This isn't the first l that this guy has taken why does he oh no why is why why is he revered in the financial world or

is i don't think he is okay i think he's just like he's the steven a smith of the financial world he just like kind of screams a lot and takes really strong opinions. So he's like a failed comedian, essentially. And he's just out here yelling opinions at people. Observations. Okay, cool. I can fight with that. He actually went to Carnegie Mellon for drama acting.

That's very rare. I like that. No, that's, yeah. In the financial world, yeah. Anyways, regulators had to shut down Silicon Valley Bank in the biggest collapse since 2008 financial crisis. The entire stock market has not completely crashed yet. So that's good news. But I do think we're just generally seeing the U.S. economy and the myth that, like,

the market fixes everything and the market possesses some wisdom. And it's all just a fiction to distract us from the reality that it is randomness and also predatory and just is trying to make money off of people in any way possible there's no real logic to it but if you're if you turn it into this kind of weather system that uh you you think you can predict like a meteorologist then uh people feel at least safer but nobody knows anything especially in this world um yeah so it seems like yeah uh jen ortega might star in beetle just beetle just uh is that how it's pronounced you got it uh beetle juice 2 which is still happening apparently um okay they so last year it was reported that brad pitt's production company was working on a beetle juice

2 and now there are rumors that jenna ortega will star in the movie as Winona Ryder's daughter which would make sense since she starred in Wednesday uh which was partly directed by Tim Burton but apparently wasn't good I don't know I didn't watch it but I think there's aspects of it I didn't I you know I wasn't I didn't consume the full thing but there were like aspects of it that went viral that people were really into i think the school dance was one of them um you know and i'm all for letting things breathe a little bit sometimes you know the first season of a thing might be a little bit rocky i i need some some time for for things to flesh out a little bit so i'm here for this this seems to be a lane

jenna wants to occupy i say go for it uh i want to see what this looks like and i'm i don't know i know there's a lot of people out there who are like oh there's too many sequels and there's you know all this original you know or there's no more original ip they're just you know going back in the past and redoing stuff. It can be done well. I'm not a full hater of it unless it's bad. I haven't seen it yet, though, so we'll see. Yeah.

She has said particularly that she had consistent dreams about Beetlejuice growing up. Okay. So sounds like a real Burton head. My main concern would be that it doesn't, like, it doesn't seem like Burton movies have been that good of late. Yeah.

But no, especially not once he produces like from before, because he doesn't have really like a, as he's not writing or directing or anything with this is just. Yeah. I'm not sure. Yeah. Okay.

Also, there are rumors that Johnny depp will be involved in beetlejuice 2 well then i'm out which i'm sorry one of the great things about the original beetle juice was that it was made before tim burton met johnny depp and put him in everything they ruined each other that is the perfect example of a toxic relationship right there like yeah the oscars are this weekend this year's show they they were apparently really like thrown off by last year's show and the slap uh so this year's show has been in the works since last june usually they would start planning in november but this time they were like, let's spend even more time

over-determining this weird industry awards event. They need time to build all the false walls and shit. They can hide the SWAT teams in. They're going to overreact so hard if anyone twitches. God forbid

they be black. Oh my god. We'll see what happens some of the things that they're changing in addition to presumably like hoping that nobody slaps anybody on camera this year uh is they are no longer giving out those awards during the commercial breaks that they did last year they've scrapped that and now they've added qr codes to direct people to behind the scenes videos which feels like something nobody is going to do right why are you making me do extra work what the fuck yeah but i don't know i i like one of the things i like about the oscars is when they like these are the behind the scenes videos that like tell you more about the art of costume design or, you know,

like actually are like many documentaries about like how they did the work that is being nominated. And those are my favorite things about the Academy Awards. But I think I'm weird. Like a lot of people seem to really enjoy the speeches, which I don't care about. Yeah, that's me.

I always said like, I'm just, I'm not one for ceremony though either like i did not you know i had the option to to walk at my college graduation i chose not to i don't know i'm just not really big into like ceremony and the idea of a bunch of millionaires handing each other golden statues and then the first thing they say is i'm so humbled by this experience it's like the least humbling thing so i think that uh yeah i don't know i'm not really for this i like i do like to see the groundwork of the people putting on the production i guess i i'm also a weirdo though i can fully admit to that like i like seeing how hard this a tremendous effort is

and then and then um i like the stories too of like you know back when i watched the olympics I like seeing how hard this tremendous effort is. And then, and then, um, I like the stories too of like, you know, back when I watched the Olympics, which I don't anymore, but like seeing the little,

like, uh, vignettes, the little like documentaries between the stuff of like their lives in between the sporting events. That's my shit. Yeah. Yeah.

And instead of feels like there, there's more of a focus on like, they've hired the, some of the Met Gala creative team, which, I mean, the Met Gala is a monster social media event. And so they're trying to Met Gala-ize the Oscars red carpet and presumably make it even more godly alienating. Yeah, I think people just poke fun at the Met Gala at this point.

And some people show up and show out and you're like, oh, okay, wow. You're one of the few people who understood the assignment, but most people are just being laughed at. I think. Yeah.

The bit, one thing that they're talking about in this article is that, uh, expect much more star power, specialized lighting to make a process that happens in daylight seem more like evening and better integration with the theater's entrance um i've been i've been demanding better integration with the theater's entrance for my red carpet uh coverage and i'm glad they're finally listening it is always weird when i think it's just because in most of the country it's

nighttime by the time it starts but when the red carpet starts it's just because in most of the country it's nighttime by the time it starts but when the red carpet starts it's obviously still daylight in los angeles and so it always feels weird that everybody's showing up during the day but it also doesn't like feel like that is a material change that people are like this bothers me and i won't watch it anymore not once have i heard i don't know i don't even know know who watches the Oscars anymore at this point, but I don't know, man. It's not my thing. But hey, if they're going to try something, I feel like they should swing for the fences and just go crazy with it right now.

They're doing all these boring little changes that I don't think anyone's going to care about. Well, if you want to get a sense of like the brain trust behind the Oscars. gonna care about well if you want to get a sense of like the brain trust behind the oscars so they started doing a marketing campaign on letterboxd like which is a you know movie fan website social media platform and the people who work for the academy like openly complained they were like we didn't have to do shit like this before like we used to janet yang the academy's president said in an interview at the organization's beverly hills office uh we didn't have to before we could rest on our laurels and just let it carry itself like so they're like doing these moves to update it like very like

being dragged kicking and screaming which is just funny to me that they're just like they take themselves seriously enough that they'll be quoted at like on a marketing decision being like uh yeah now we have to stoop to this level like this is what you call work like come on you put on a tv show once a year yeah what do you relax they also are going up against the Last of Us. Like, the Last of Us finale is at the same time. Yeah, and that's, oh, I like the confidence. Because The Last of Us, I think, moved for the Super Bowl. But they're like, the Oscars, we sun them, bro. We don't give a fuck about that.

We have no respect for them. And they shouldn't, because they're one of the few shows, especially in this modern era that has drastically increased their uh their viewership from the first episode to the eighth episode by a lot i mean that's impressive i think it's just the oscars being there the oscars were probably they were like should we move it and they were like we actually won't even take a meeting with you hbo so i don't know that that's the impression i'm getting from we didn't used to have to do this stuff like talk directly to film fans um all right let's take a quick break we'll

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and a couple bbc stories a couple ways the bbc is behaving like one of the like the new york times a little bit like a name brand that people associate with, um, at least liberalism. Yeah. That was the first thing I thought of was the European,

um, New York times. Yeah. So, uh, they had a hell of a twofer. Um, one,

they published a very misleading headline about pandemic-related mental health crises. Mental health crisis from COVID pandemic was minimal, dash study. And I don't know. It's just misleading because the studies used for this review were all from high-income European and Asian countries. Asian countries, didn't examine lower income countries or children and people with existing conditions, aka the groups of people who are most likely affected, according to experts, which seems like kind of a big oversight. And even the study said there were data biases in this study, but like that fact was buried in the BBC's article.

And yeah, just experts really ripped it apart and then same day uh there's a news story about how they're censoring david attenborough for being too woke and but it's not even this was his whole thing before woke was even in the right the zeitgeist like this is uh this is maddening to me because bbc also wants to gaslight everybody and say that this like they're not censoring dude when this is the sixth episode and they're calling it a five-part series so explain what it is it's what i actually didn't know this story before you brought it up so basically you, you know, David Attenborough's thing is he does docu-series about the beauty of things.

And then on the flip side, he'll show you how that beauty might be in jeopardy. And then he tries to end it on a positive note of like, but here's how all hope is not lost and how we can help save this little creature's environment

that you saw or whatever. And that's his whole general vibe for the many, many years he's been doing whatever. And that's his whole general vibe for the many, many years he's been doing this. And for whatever reason, the BBC, when other people in the press have asked them about this peculiar setup, they have where there's this docu series that's coming out that he's doing

just like all the other ones he's been doing. But there's one that has i guess some rumors some speculation that bbc has put on their like obscure streaming platform called iplayer instead of airing it on their uh their network is because it leans too heavily into environmentalism and And even though that aspect is in the other five episodes, they are relegating this to a place. Yeah, to streaming. And and they're like pretty much their excuse is that this was funded. This particular part is like a separate movie and it was funded by, you know, wildlife organizations and whatnot. And as if that's a satisfactory excuse it's like

why does that make it different why does that make it in a place where no one should be able to see it you know and it just doesn't make sense to me and and it's this kind of i guess the censorship aspect right now and there's a difference between like liberals being like oh this thing is being censored because the right has co-opted canceled and things being canceled and there's this culture war happening about censorship and and things that are being canceled that's very interesting to talk about but it doesn't seem like anyone has the right tools to really have an intellectual conversation about it they're just either doing the thing where they're like kowtowing to a certain

group or they are just outright accusing or blaming or whitewashing or whatever and it's just maddening. So the BBC statement came out and was like this is totally inaccurate. There is no sixth episode. Wild Isles is and always was a five part

series and does not shy away from environmental content uh we've acquired a separate film for iplayer uh anyways it feels like they're you know just being like we we don't know what you're talking about but like the guardian has an exclusive where they're like they specifically made this decision because they were worried about getting right wing backlash and forgive me if i'm wrong don't you order a certain number of epic because there's a certain amount of resources allocated per episode to a thing and so why would they order six parts and then air five it just seems like they're this this is not a,

you know, the satisfactory answer, but they're like, yep, that's it. Dumb fucks. There you go. That's why we did it.

Right. And we are just seeing a lot of, uh, quote unquote centrist, uh, adjusting of their position or what they do in response to like right wing outrage. And just the idea has been planted in their brain like

inception style that they can't get rid of that is like you have to be in between the right and left and they will not let go of that even as the right becomes like outright nazis but the right is not watching you they're not your friend you think people on the right are turning on the bbc like are you serious like it just yeah it does you want to appeal to everyone so so you appeal to no one i don't know how that strategy is supposed to work for you but i guess do what you want all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this friday march 10th we are back on mond Monday with a whole ass episode of the show. Justin, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Instagram at jconthesmith, J-C-O-N-T-H-E-S-M-I-T-H. And yeah.

All right. We'll talk to you guys on Monday. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all on Monday. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all on Monday. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden.

We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.

Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel reese people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game clark and reese have changed the way

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