The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Manuel-Miranda 2/15: The Little Mermaid, Raquel Welch, Teddy Von Nukem, Linear TV, Debt, Matt Gaetz, Penn Badgley

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

In this edition of Trend Manuel-Miranda, Jack and TDZ writer JM McNab discuss The Little Mermaid, the passing famed actress of Raquel Welch, the passing of famed nazi Teddy Von Nukem, streaming tv topping linear tv, the US debt report, Matt Gaetz getting away with it (by it, we mean human trafficking), and Penn Badgley quitting love scenes!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Trend Manuel Miranda. It's been a long time coming that we give Lin-Manuel Miranda his flowers on this trending. I'm Jack. That over there, well, that is TDZ writer, J.M. McNabb. What's up, man? No, not much. We spent about 30 minutes talking about Lin-Manuel Miranda and like just how like no one has ever gone from like people think he's cool to just like being transparently corny like so quickly in such a brief period of time. But I couldn't remember like how we got to that.

We started off at like as we were going through the trends talking about that his appearance on house did were you a house fan jam no i've seen it i remember being on i remember like people's parents watching it but i didn't uh i know people loved hugh laurie but i just remember thinking his american accent sounded kind of odd. Yeah. I might have to see it again. I really want to watch this. I want to watch the Lin-Manuel Miranda arc. At one point House becomes addicted to Vicodins or Percocets

and he is in a rehab that that show was for being ostensibly a medical drama had like the most basic ass like five-year-old's understanding of how like medicine works because like the house goes to like a psych ward for his rehab and like lin-manuel miranda Miranda is pathologically annoying. That seems to be what he suffers from.

He's his roommate. And he's also a rapper who doesn't have his flow and needs House's help to get his flow back. Yeah. And all very, very embarrassed. Just so cringe. I haven't seen it, but I'm 100% sure someone gets cured with the power of music. Yes.

I believe he does have his flow back by the end. Right. Um, but anyways, wrapped all the way around. We're looking for our sixth trend and lo and behold, the little mermaid teaser dropped. Um,

and I believe Lin-Manuel Miranda is adding raps to this one because like all children i think he just got like first whack at all children's content that has been made over the past 10 years i mean i know he's he's a little embarrassing and maybe he's uh not doing his best work but the amount of times like i've pacified screaming children with the Moana soundtrack, I feel like, uh, earns some kind of,

uh, award. That's not a Tony. Uh, yes, but he, yeah, he also,

he also produced the little mermaid and, uh, I guess he's, he might be playing chef. Louis is, is like the rumor. It's a miracle and like a testament to his character that he managed to stop himself from casting himself as Prince Eric,

because that is like, he is always putting himself in places in his productions where like Hamilton, he made himself Hamilton, even though he was like the worst actor by by far out of the bunch um and it showed it was like all right when I finally saw it I was like wait why is nobody talking about the fact that he's like he's so bad and like not charismatic uh but it's funny when you see something like that he wrote the shit so we we just kind of let it slide um but anyways i was a like i'm not gonna sit here

and pretend like i wasn't into hamilton when it first came out i was i i am a horrible white like all the rest was into it well also he's become just like the disney guy now it seems like because he was in like the mary poppins. That was another low bar kind of job, because he was the chimney sweep kind of guy. Yeah. And he didn't have a great accent, but it was still like, the bar was Dick Van Dyke. The worst accent. The worst British accent in history. So anyways, we got the Little Mermaid teaser.

I was very curious to see who they were going to put in the Prince Eric role because Prince Eric has always stood out to me as one of the least charismatic animated characters of all time. Like he, for whatever reason,

like he has like some real Pete Sampras ass energy. And he came like some real pete sampras ass energy like and and he came like pete sampras was like the the boring tennis star all like the the boring answer to uh andre agassi like in the early 90s right which is like it's a bit of a dated reference is it but so is the little mermaid so i mean you're gonna tell me you know the little mermaid but you don't know pete sampras that's a good point yeah um just a real boring ass person so i was curious what they were gonna do with that because yeah i thought he looked kind of like a young bob saget he's definitely got some saget to him too but yeah also looks like he could smash a forehand you know that's what they should have just like and i intended it they should just have like a cgi young pete sampras for this movie but

it's some guy i don't i don't even remember his name i'd never heard of him before yeah just some 27 year old former disney actor or maybe not i don't even know i just but i thought they wanted harry styles apparently but he said no wisely anyways it looks cool sure let's do it um i still don't know like what they're gonna do with sebastian or flounder like because the problem that we all saw with lion king although it made all the money in in the world and his top 10 most box office of any movie it still was not great and it was because you couldn't have emotions coming out of the these live animals like you can make it look like their mouths were moving but you weren't gonna make it look like they were suffering from the same emotions as Hamlet,

you know? Yeah. Sebastian is a crab, right? Sebastian is a crab. How are you going to make a crab charming? It's disgusting. Crabs are scary,

man. Anyways. So they, they still haven't answered that. Um, but like, I don't know. Ariel looks cool and shit.

And like the underwater stuff, I'm a sucker for underwater stuff. So that's been teaser corner. Uh, Raquel Welsh has died. I know that she was a famous actress in the seventies. What, what,

what can you tell me jam? I mean, I, you know, her kind of height of fame i guess was a little before our time but like yeah i certainly remember seeing her and and when i'd watch old movies with my parents like you know fantastic voyage and stuff like that um yeah she was like a you know an icon yeah for sure and uh and and she's great mean, I think probably a lot of people our age remember her more from when she played herself on Seinfeld.

Oh, I don't remember that episode. Oh, she played herself and she wouldn't move her arms when she tap danced. tap danced and so the producers of the show tried to get kramer to fire her because he had a tony for the show that he he got because he was a seat filler anyways she was good in that uh yeah she also naked gun 33 and a third oh yeah that's the one film i'm looking through all of her films and that is the one that i have seen and i i think i remember from that oh and legally blonde i guess and i think she won a Golden Globe I was reading for the Three Musketeers I think, like early in her career.

No, she was great. Yeah, that's sad to hear she passed away. Sad loss. Less sad to hear that the Nazi guy from the Charlottesville White Power Rally passed away by his own hand.

It would appear in Missouri. Teddy Von Newcomb. So, I mean, the main reason I'm bringing this up, I don't have much to say other than that a lot of people are posting. The famous image has two very prominent nazis in it and one has like a white tennis polo shirt and looks like beck bennett and he's like gone he like looks really angry like a spoiled kid who just who's like give me back my porridge daddy or like you know like something poor i don't know probably spoiled rich kids don't have poor but like give me back

my ferrari daddy like that he has like that energy yeah um that's not the one who died but i'm seeing a lot of people it's the other one who just looks like a like blandly handsome member of cobra kai like just you know blonde dude with a buzz cut yeah like a cobra kai background kind of guy exactly that's teddy von nukem how how is like put the death on the back burner for a minute his name was teddy von nukem he gave himself that he changed his name to that in 2012 yeah just to be like i want to be a full nazi bad guy um so or maybe he that would just distract from the nazi thing is it because of the video game though is that why he changed his name to that i have to think so like the the nukem is not a word that i've heard otherwise it is spelled n-u-k-e-m

so um yeah and then teddy von i'm sure it came from like some nazi he admired yeah teddy probably from famous nazi teddy ruxpin um you we have to assume if you ever listen to the second half of that cassette it got really bad play it backwards um this is how we got to Lin-Manuel Miranda for a half hour because we were talking about how all the Nazis had Macklemore haircuts and then we were like, Macklemore really had that moment where he won

Best Rap Album of the Year despite the fact that it was the year Good Kid, Mad City came out and then somebody speculated that does Lin-Manuel Miranda follow Macklemore on social media i don't think we ever figured that out because we then just started talking about the house episode um but it's all you know the the matrix is glitching all over the place as we've already discussed so anyways uh rip to raquel welsh uh let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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And we're back. And there's, I don't know, there's like some standard news story, like streaming in a historic first. Market Tracker expects linear TV to account for less than half of daily viewing. I'm surprised that hasn't happened already but mainstream media is making a big deal about that have you heard of the streaming stuff jams pre-wild right yeah it's well it's weird to watch regular tv like i don't have cable i have an antenna that i sometimes use if it's something i have to watch live and it's it's real wild to just see commercials like my when i

plug that in and we watch tv like my children are taken aback like they don't know what it is do your children thrill to commercials though my children like are desperate like i want to skip through commercials when like a sporting event is on but they they only tune in for the commercials they don't give a shit about the sporting event but they oh really yeah and not just the super bowl like when i'm watching a local broadcast of like the 76ers versus the san antonio spurs and it's the spurs broadcast and so i'm looking at like san antonio local restaurant commercials they're like whoa this is fascinating dad get the car We have to go there now. Pack a bag. Yeah.

A fish restaurant in San Antonio. Yeah, I remember we saw- Fresh caught at the Riverwalk. I'm sorry. We were at like a family's house or something and we watched TV and there was a toy commercial and it was like the first toy commercial they'd ever seen and it blew their minds. Yeah. And they were like, we have to have this toy. They'd never been, had something advertised to them before in their lives yeah yeah i mean all we watch

is streaming that's why yeah i'm surprised to hear that too but i guess you're right like yeah the mainstream media like making a big deal of it is of course you know they would it's you know it's their relevancy kind of slipping away yeah Yeah. It is so wild to like, when we have one TV, like doesn't have any streaming, you know, it doesn't have like Apple TV or anything. Isn't a smart TV.

And when we're near that, we have a couple of Nickelodeon shows that they like to watch that, you know, I will try and fast forward through, but if I'm doing something else and the, the toy ads are just so fucking insidious it's like how did we survive it's there yeah anyways um new york times front page is all about u.s debt u.s on track to add 19 trillion dollars in new debt

there they always get real worried about debt when there's a Democrat in the White House and Republicans are making bad faith arguments. The whole front page of the New York Times is the top above the fold section is all about U.S. debt. Budget office warns of possible default between July and September. office warns of possible default between july and september lawmakers spar over social security even as its costs are rising fast so like just all of these things that are just playing to you know fiscal conservative talking points essentially yeah which of course yeah this is this is our left-leaning in, in the United States. It's complete horseshit. And,

uh, Matt gets his getsing away with it. Uh, the peers that he's not his, his lawyer says, uh, an investigation that examined whether he broke federal laws, focused on his relationships with women recruited online and whether he had

sex with a 17 year old girl, uh, the justice department's decided to just let that one slide. There's just like, yeah. So this person is a clear piece of shit. I mean, there's not a lot of evidence to be fair.

There's not. Okay. I mean, it's just a lot of, you know, you know, testimonies and documents and things. Oh, is that it? Yeah. It's just, you know, you know, testimonies and documents and things. Oh, is that it?

Yeah. It's just, you know, like things he's done and said that kind of thing. Right. Other than that. Yeah. Yeah. And finally, the thing that everyone seems to be talking about is Penn Badgley, who is the guy from Gossip Girl.

Yeah. I think. Yeah. He's like Dan from Gossip Girl, I think. Yeah, he's like Dan from Gossip Girl. And he's in You, the Netflix show. He's in Me? He's in You right now. No, he will never be in You, J.M., because he has come out. Now, he's in this show that everybody's talking about. It's about this really toxic sociopath who's in in a relationship and you're supposed to root against him but they

make him very compelling anti-hero shit anyways um he's come out and been like i refuse to do sex scenes in movies because it's not fair to my partner. It's just a thing that has been taken for granted for a long time when it comes to actors do that. That's what you do as an actor is you just pretend. It's kind of weird because on one hand, it's like, good for that man. If that's what is important to him on the other hand it like suggests that like other actors are like like all perverts like you know we did talk about sean bean who who was like intimacy coordinators spoil the spontaneity

and if that's if that's the other side of the coin then then yeah, I would, I would err on the side of Penn Badgley, but both of these seem to both sides of that coin seem to suggest that like, they're getting something out of the thing and not just acting, which is. Yeah. Well, it's, it's weird. Yeah. When I saw that quote circulating, I had the thought like, oh, maybe he's been on some like bad sets or like where there wasn't like an intimacy coordinator or you know the filmmakers weren't being respectful but then yeah reading the interview it sounds like it's more like a personal decision yeah he's making which you know it's it's up to like you know obviously i don't think you would take a job

in like an erotic thriller and then argue that he shouldn't have sex scenes but he'll probably you know choose steer his career that way yeah and you know that's you know it's up to his comfort level but uh which is fine but it was when i read the quotes it did a little sound like i don't want anyone falling in love with me um but i'm sure that's not what he meant uh right yeah it is weird because I, I feel like we're at a time where I keep hearing two different conversations going on online. One being that Hollywood needs to deal with sex scenes differently, the way they're filmed and the way like the, the power is distributed on sets is not always equitable or, or handled sensitively but there's this also the sense i think from the audience's standpoint that has nothing to do with how you know something's filmed it should always be done in a respectful uh fair manner with someone whose profession it is to to oversee that like absolutely absolutely but on top of that i I've seen a lot of people talking about like how movies don't have much sex anymore in general. Like it seems as though that kind of genre has gone away. The erotic thriller. get like the star wars treatment now or it's like a legacy sequel where like someone someone finds michael douglas and you know he takes them under his wing or something as the like

investigator of a erotic serial killer yeah or like sharon stone and you know yeah has to mentor someone a new ice pick killer that That's right. Could be fun. Very fun. Penn Badgley will not be starring in that reboot. Probably. Or he will, and it'll just be a totally different thing. But yeah, it does feel like a lot of the internet and a lot of the reaction from young people

has been like, thank you, no more sex in our movies. And I think that's fine like that people who are like we're going in this puritanical direction um i don't know that that's fully the case i don't know that this is the uh the canary in the coal mine that we that we necessarily think it is no and to be fair like i was just talking about movies like tv is filthy like yeah that's true tv is pretty it is it is crazy to like turn on tv and see the amount of like nudity and violence on there like when i was a kid i had to sneak into con air because i wasn't old enough and like to think of what you can just see turning on a tv now uh yeah it's shocking my con air was uh lethal weapon three

that's what i snuck into and then my dad uh got in trouble with the theater because he bought me the tickets and then was like all right i'm taking your little sister to see fern gully you guys go into lethal weapon three and we went in and the fucking like some narc ass usher came in and was like you guys need to get out of here um so that's how young we were was that like we were ruining someone's enjoyment of lethal weapon three by just being there uh so then i went and saw the second half of fern gully probably holds up better to be honest yeah oh yeah for sure but i thought that uh soulful eric clapton sting song from the uh lethal weapon 3 soundtrack was really cool uh at the time i have bad taste i like i think we've established that it was like that

and hamilton or my jam uh anyways jm mcnabb such a pleasure having you where can people find you follow you uh you can follow me on twitter uh if it's still around when you're listening to this it's uh at jm mcnabb again there you go uh all right that's gonna do it for us this afternoon back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Latin Grammy winner, author and TV personality Cheeky's about raising her younger siblings after the death of her mother, singer Jenny Rivera. I would do it over and over again. All of that has molded me to become the woman that I am today. Like I wouldn't change anything.

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