The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend & Stimpy 4/9: Michael J. Fox, Amazon, ICE, RIP Forestry Service

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

In this edition of Trend & Stimpy, Jack and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss Michael J. Fox NOT being dead, Amazon bricking old Kindles, who's really getting arrested by ICE, RIP Forestry Service and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Didn't do it. I didn't do it. Miles at the dog hospital, but you didn't, definitely, you would never. This is one where we can immediately eliminate. You're a guest who tab is going down on this one. You love dogs way too much. It could have been my cats. My cats could have done it.

But I would never, I would never tell them to do that. You have devious cartoon cats who are always scheming. I have one cat that's chill with everything. and then the other cat is this, well, it's a foster cat. So if you want a 12-year-old grandma who took a while to open up because she was on the streets her whole life. But now she bosses everybody around, including the big dogs. That's amazing. Then, yeah, she might have done it.

I don't know. Grew up on the streets, huh? I mean, living 12 years on the streets as a cat, she's seen some shit. Now she's like, go get me those treats with Miles of money, Mom. Why do you have Miles's wallet? Don't worry about it, Mom. We'll Pauldi. Thank you so much for joining.

We're always thrilled to have you here. This is the episode where you tell you what's trending on this Thursday, April 9th. CNN reported that Michael J. Fox had died. Oh my God. I saw his read about it before I saw or whatever, tweet or whatever, before I saw anything else. three minute 27 second video remembering the life of actor Michael J. Fox. Did promptly delete it. That is so wild.

He should throw a funeral. That'd be fun. And we all attend. Yeah. So the reason for this, and this has happened before, the reason for this is that outlets all have pre-prepared obits ready to go. But it's still just always shocking when they get. The kick is, like, do you want them to have a pre-prepared obit because you're that important?

You're that important, but there's also another ingredient there, probably. Which is they're like, this motherfucker is on his way out. On their deathbed. You make an appearance on a red carpet, and they immediately are like, we need to get a... TMZ is always on the scene because they're actually an Oracle. You know, there are those cats that can, like, smell death. Speaking of cats. TMZ has those in their employee

just like walk the red carpet being like this one's on his way out folks I just imagine they were the journalist but it is funny if they had them on the red carpet and they like swarmed one person Yeah Can you get these goddamn TMZ cats off of me? I'm trying to take a picture of my Luke

I will say so the last time they did it they had a real fuck up was 2003 when their website prematurely killed off Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, Fidel Castro, Pope John Paul II, Nelson Mandela, Gerald Ford, and Dick Cheney. To be fair, I thought all those people were dead in 2000. Well, Dick Cheney was like dead and came back alive.

Dick Cheney's the only one where it's like, damn, I feel like you guys are wishcasting a little bit on this one. All of those people have since died. So this leak may have actually been the ring video of journalistic mistakes. He's going to die in seven days. Parkinson's didn't do it, but CNN did. That's insane. I'm just saying.

Also, he was great on this season of shrinking. Shout out Michael J. Fox, my childhood crush. What did it for you? What Michael J. Fox? I just loved like his energy and how like eager and enthusiastic. he was to like be a teen wolf or go back in time or be a weird or be a weird Republican on Spin City

or no the other one and then Spin City yeah always a weird Republican we bought him as a Republican and then he became the most lived out dude yeah it's it is wild that they were that was a character that everyone was selling was like I mean I guess that's just who everyone

was in the 80s is like that that was the ideal person for Hollywood to show was a affluent young white man. Yeah, where there, Alex P. Keaton. But that was back in the day when, like, Hollywood was like the liberal elites who still got along with their Republican friends or family. And now it's like there would, like somebody shot each other. You know what I mean? Like, it wouldn't be able to be the same. I like somebody shot each other just as a sentence. Okay. This is me pitching shows. Okay. For this. This is me pitching shows. Okay. For this. next episode. Somebody shot each other.

And then the cat's found with the gun. Who did it? The cat? I don't know. Probably. They don't have the fingerprint technology for those paws. Cheney was only 60 years old when they published his obituary. I would do it every year if I was... I guess it was 62 when they published it, but they had a placeholder for the year of death as 19.

141 to 2001 for Chaney. That was when his evil was like just... Peak evil. It was like in the larval stage. It hadn't even grown its evil-ass. Razor wings. Building like all the strings of the web

and then it like came together if he did 9-11. Right. Hey, George. I think we're going to want to do a 9-11 here. A second 9-11 has hit the 9-11. But yeah, I think also maybe they were just doing the wishful thinking thing that we do currently on the internet.

Also, his heart was like really fucked up for so long, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. He did, I think, need to have, he had a different man's part in his chest. It was probably a more generous, caring man. It was a movie vice covers it. Reacting against him. jogging, getting hit by a car.

And then they're like, oh, and you get Dick Cheney's, you get to be Dick Cheney's heart going forward. He's like, no. And how fucking cruel if you're an organ donor and you get to keep one of these fuck-ass billionaires alive? Right. God, could you imagine? I want to put stipulations on my organ.

Yes, not for billionaires. Yeah. I think my organs would reject a billionaire's body. I think. Oh. Yeah. I have faith. I have faith.

My heart has good taste. Amazon. Amazon doesn't really. So they do the delivery. They deliver products, right? But every time they try to do something in media, I feel like it's just never. Like I, there's a really funny show with Kevin Hart.

And what's his name from SNL? How am I blanking on this name? Lord Michaels. Yeah, Kevin Hart and Lorne Michaels. Keenan, Thompson, had a really funny sports show that Miles and I like went to the taping up. Oh, yeah. I heard that was good. It's good and nobody, because it's on Amazon.

It's just like nothing. Once on Amazon, just nothing exists. I think the only good thing that has taken the audience. audience like to Amazon has been boys. Boys and Jerry Doody. Isn't that on HBO too? Exactly. Nobody knows.

It's impossible to say. I think boys is it. The spin on the other secondary show, Jen, Jen B. I feel like it puts a taint on the project when it's on. I didn't like the way you said taint. You pronounced it really perfectly and it felt gross. A taint.

Invincible got really popular. popular. And Victor, I don't even know what that is. So it's the cartoon that Danny Fernandez is horny for. Oh, of course. You're going to have to narrow it down, Polly. That's fair. All right. So anyways, the one, the one thing that they've crossed over with is like they got to the e-reader first. They made the Kindle. Everyone, everyone was like, all right, I have my

Kindle, Kindle's a thing. Now they're trying to ruin that good will that they built up. They are bricking any Kindle that was released in 2012 or earlier. The Kindles will still be able to access books that have already been downloaded. But if you like connect them to the store, it's going to be. That should be fucking illegal. Like, why can't we do what Europe did with the Apple Cords? That's like, that's fucked up. Well, Paula, it's because.

That's like somebody coming in and like throwing shit at your stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. It's because, quote, technology has come a long way since 2012. So is fucking greed. I hate this. I hate what people prevent you from reading.

They want you to not read. This implies that there have been advances in Word doc slash PDF technology in the past years that like since 2012 that have like made things. Impossible. It's so much better now that you can read word processes. like words off of this document in a new way. How are we supposed to interact with the old technology? They're literally like burning books because they're like, this isn't the latest in tech.

Right. Yeah, essentially. But they, the new Kindles have ads, which cost extra to remove. And I guess the old Kindles could also display them, but people think that it has something to do with, the ad display and like this get the old kindles getting in the way of doing they aren't acquiring data fast enough right exactly the spyware is not

detailed enough that might be a boomer opinion i do think kindles are really good and i do have multiple i think that people gift me because i do love reading um but i there is something about having like just having a book in your hand that is so nice and also they can't put ads in their app you don't have to read the back cover it's gonna be so funny when they try

I'm gonna be so fun but they did it with our fucking streaming services where we paid out the ass and then they increased the price they took away the passwords sharing and then they like added commercials back in and then they were like let's ring out a few more dollars and I'm like how do we let that happen

they are going to put ads in books it's going to be so bad there's just going to be, they're going to be, like, projected directly into your brain. Yeah. Yeah. The neuro whatever that Elon's making. The people on Reddit were pointing out that, like, a lot of people have, like, these old 14-year-old Kindles that are, like, still working perfectly. Yeah. Which suggests to me, suggests to me that they, one of the reasons they're breaking these old

products is because they were like, fuck. We didn't know yet. We didn't know about built-in obsolescence. Like we didn't realize you can't make them that good. So we got to kill that first generation of ones that are good. Now we're going to have to jailbreak our Kindles to read. Yeah, yeah. That's right.

What the fuck? Yeah. Real like digital book burning. What if this is what causes the revolution, just like book. talk being really upset. Coming for Bezos. Really? I'm trying to, I guess the boys is the one, right?

The boys is the, that's, that's all they got. That's like the original, yeah, because it had to be so, it was such a great show and so crazy of a show. Like, we didn't expect it to be that brazen. And that, like, only that could, you know, make people hold to Amazon. Right. Anyways, fuck Amazon. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

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We weren't even to the sad part yet. You're like, oh, God. Oh, cool thing is so sad. You guys were like, and we're recording. And I was like, no. Watching the Star Spangue, when she sang the National Anthem at the Super Bowl, there's a huge Marlboro cigarettes ad in the stadium during the Super Bowl. that kind of blew my mind.

Remember those days where there were just cigarette ads? Probably not, right? You wanted that guy to be your cool uncle? Yeah. You were like that guy? You've died of lung cancer. So sick. So cool.

God, just so rugged to be dying of emphysema out in the middle of nowhere. God, I hope he leaves me in his horse. But it did kind of blow my mind that it was like that early 90s we had cigarette ads they were like the size of a building in the Super Bowl. Like,

and it was before like those ads changed. So it was just Marlboro everywhere. The like one out of every four shots in the Super Bowl that year. Just had a big Marlborough sign in it. Kind of amazing. It feels somehow that like everything else people are making and advertising is like even unhealthy or somehow. Right. It is all.

It is kind of wild to look back on that and be like, that is not as toxic as what we've replaced it with. Just even more invasive. Because now it's in our food. Like, it's not something we can opt into. It's like stuff that's like we have to have. Yeah.

Just, yeah. Yeah. They've put a chemical in our food. And if we don't, it's like the born franchise where they like make them dependent on a chemical. And if they don't get their medicine. Yeah, if they don't get their medicine, they go crazy. It's kind of what nicotine addiction is too.

I just want to give myself a thing. I want to give myself a thing that I need. It doesn't bring me anything other than having a thing to focus on and need everyone's in a while or else I'd go crazy. In college, I was dating this guy. I think we had just broken up, but like something sad happened at the college. And then he started picking up smoking because all of his friends were smoking.

And I'm like, wait, you never smoked before. and he was like, yeah, but it's been a stressful time. That's right. Don't you go back to your old vices as a comfort? Yeah. You just pick up new ones. I've been trying to start smoking for a while now. It hasn't been taking, but I'm making progress.

I'm up to three cigarettes a day. I want to be like a heroin guy. I'm thinking about trying that out. Just want to have like some bags, some yellowish bags under my eyes. if that could be cool. All right. What do we got here? We've got a chart that recently came out.

This was actually, I came across this from David J. Beer, who is apparently a libertarian. If you click on his name, anytime someone shares anything on Twitter, you have to be like, okay, what the fuck is? Where's this person coming from?

I feel like a lot of libertarians just really need a hobby or they're like very into, like they're too focused on something. Right. So when they come out with like, facts and data that like other people haven't had a chance to report on yet. I'm like, this is probably, this might be a libertarian or like maybe like a leftist nerd, but more like

libertarian. Libertarians, I'd say, you know, broken clock right, like twice a day, you know, maybe maybe even a little bit more. They, they sometimes hit on some, some good opinions. And this happens to be, so when it comes to. So when it comes to. immigration, they are occasionally on the right side of things. And he shared this chart that shows the three things that are being charted are the arrests of non-citizens with and without criminal convictions. And they show like a green line, which is the line of people who have been arrested who have committed violent crimes. And then there's like a shows the line between Biden to Trump to. And then the

one that like really jumps off the chart is the blue line, which is people with absolutely no convictions. Just nothing. Just innocent people being arrested who are, you know, very frequently U.S. citizens. But it's so like, what do we do? It's a great question. There's like five different stories a day

that make me say, what do? I think I just come on here and say that way too much. What do we do? Like, Pallavi, that wasn't in the script we were first. Don't emphasize the fact that I have no fucking answers. I have no idea. I'm so scared. I am so scared.

It's fucking scary. It's scary out here. So that's still happening. They also just killed the U.S. Forestry Service. Dude, the animals. need to mold us. Like, we need human, other countries to invade us and give us to health care.

And we need the animals to attack. When he was like threatening, implicitly threatening nuclear war, I was like, so aren't they just going to, like, why? Don't they just like invade us? Like, what's, what are you guys? What are you guys? Like, when we talk about going to other countries and like liberating them and they welcome us with open arms, like the people of those countries, the opposite would

be true. That would actually be true in this case. Greenland invaded us and gave us health care. We'd be like, I'll speak whatever fucking language you guys speak over there. I don't care. I'll learn so many more consonants to be an Icelandic person. Like, I don't just give us health care and take this man away. One of the last good things that the U.S. has going for it.

Like, one of the reasons people still come to visit our fuck-ass country is the boys on Amazon. This has all been a very roundabout weird sponsorship. piece of content. We were winning you over by saying one bad thing and then really pushing the boys. Is in addition to the boys the national park system, the national forestry, like the fact that we still have a whole bunch of

unruined nature to explore that's been actively and aggressively protected for years by weirdos. A cultural stand on this. Where are all the Indian grass Grandmothers and saris and sneakers supposed to go to not smile for pictures if you take away the Grand Canyon. That's right. Excuse me.

This is where our families go to to fight, okay? You can't take away national parks from Indian, from South Asian people. We are, that is us in our, in our, in our natural environment, just bundled up in jackets that are way too puffy for the, the temperature, because we're not used to it. Yeah. Walking around, like, we got Tupperware full of home. cooked food. That wind will get you though.

You need that puppy. I know, but even in the summer, because we're just, we're used to the tropics, okay, and we bring all of our family members there, and we really don't pay attention to who's walking around us.

But that's part of our, that's like our migratory patterns. Okay, when we come to this country, we need to go to national parks. If you take it away, that is a hate crime, okay? Very, a staple of Indian culture.

Yeah. staple many cultures to go there and be like, God, this is so beautiful. And also I'm so mad at all of you for having to spend this much time in a car with you. Leary-eyed children. Yes. They are, so this move, they're basically closing all of these field offices. They're closing the Washington, D.C.

Field Office, moving it to Salt Lake City. and people are basically saying that they're doing what we tend to do with these governmental bodies that are designed to protect people or natural resources and that

have the target of like corporate interests on their back is they just like make it too weak to be effective in any way. This article from Hatch says 193 million acres of our national forest

an area larger than Texas is going to be not protected. The largest public land agency in the country just handed on a silver platter to the people who spent their entire careers trying to destroy it.

And that does seem weird that there are people whose job it is to try to destroy forests and like nature. I remember growing up, there's a scene in the movie Karate Kid 3 where they have to like establish

that the bad guy is bad. And so they insert this scene where he's like a toxic waste dumper. Like he's like, my job is to dump toxic waste. He's like 10 years ago, nuclear waste was the preferred waste.

You could dump it anywhere. Now, everybody's a detective. I'm lucky if I can make one deal a year without being indicted. And I just remember laughing at that. So funny. Yeah, like anyone's that evil. Like anyone's like, I get rich by destroying nature.

And then adulthood, for me, has just been like one long process of learning. That's actually exactly how the U.S. works. Yeah. Bring back Captain Planet. That's where this all went wrong. Did they put him down? I think so. What's happening to me?

Yes. Did they inspect him for parts? Captain Planet moved in with a really nice gay couple who will live on a farm upstate. And he's very happy. He's running around. he's doing great. He's full of heart. Paula Viginalin,

such a pleasure having you as always. Hi! Hi! Where can people find you? All right, that was a nice run through. Let's take it from the top. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

I am at Paula Vigadalyn, P-A-V-V-I-G-U-N-A-L-N, everywhere, except for maybe blue sky where I'm P-L-A-V-V- and something else. and I, oh, I'm going to be at Netflix as a joke with facial recognition comedy. May 4th, 10 p.m. at the hotel cafe. There are limited tickets. So please buy one as soon as possible. The tickets are on sale April 10th at 10 a.m. That's tomorrow for what I'm recording.

Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. It's not happening. You get tickets tomorrow. We're all dead. And I. I also run shows monthly

facial recognition comedy at the Comedy Store and Second Streams Comedy. The next second screens is April 25th. Come out. That one's like so fun and silly. Michael Bryan's gonna be on it. Isn't that cool? Oh, I love them. He's great. Yeah. Brother.

Fellow brother in arms. Oh, Brian. Yeah. You guys are all related. Always. But yeah, come out. Come out. And also, I am launching a new podcast.

with Jasmine Ellis and Valerie Tossy called Millennial Mood Board. And that should be starting in May. I believe we're going to start putting out episodes. What's on your millennial mood board? So many things. It's going to be deep dives into millennial, the formative years of millennials. Welcome to millennials. That is a reference to a Method Man song that nobody heard because it was a brick of an album.

Anyways, Pahlavi, that's so exciting. I can't wait to listen to your podcast. just start crying about Whitney on it. I'm like still crying. It's a sad story. It's a beautiful story. Everybody can tune into that on Monday. Until then, actually we're back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Be kind to each other.

Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines where you still can. Don't listen to the RFK podcast. Do get your vaccines and your flu shots. What is that Ben diagram of people who listen to this podcast? I just want to see where he's going with this. Hold on. He's got some points. Don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.

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