The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Z Says Instagram Likes Are Microcheating 6/27: Instagram Microcheating, Supreme Court, Kevin Costner/'Horizon', Ruben Ostlund/'The Entertainment System is Down'

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

In this edition of Trend Z Says Instagram Likes Are Microcheating, Miles and special guest host Chris Crofton discuss instagram likes = microcheating?, the Supreme Court allowing emergency abortions in Idaho… oh, and bribes, Kevin Costner's new movie 'Horizon', Ruben Ostlund's next film 'The Entertainment System Is Down' and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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an intern as the washington post describes an Internet era term for small act of betrayal. Now, this is something to do with something like, you know, maybe liking a bikini photo of someone else. Is it harmful? Is it harmless? Who knows? But I think because we're all in this new era where you can interact so much digitally, we have a new way of i guess we got a new term now micro cheating which is oh okay this is interesting miles because sometimes you know when you can see your friends likes like on instagram you know what i mean and you suspect some you meet somebody and like you meet their husband and you think he seems like a creep and then you are also being a creep but you're single so it's okay so you're like so you're like like me like i'm single so i'm like

looking at like some bikini lady has like a hundred billion followers you know right and then you see the sad fuckers that put a like on their shit like hoping that she will pick their like to like be like i want to have sex with you or whatever they uh you'll see some guy you're like oh people will like this and it's like a billion likes and then it says people you know and it shows that dude yeah it's like that dude and it's like those dudes are so horny and desperate and so i think i don't know i don't know if it's cheating but i think it's an indicator i think if you see somebody putting their like on some. Yeah, it's thirst.

It's thirst. Especially when there's 60,000 likes. And you picture this guy who has a family being like, I like this. I also, I see people though, too, like scroll Instagram and they like it. I know people just like everything. Like on the thing, which is so weird, too. Well, that would be their defense, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Not even defending them. Like, I remember catching a friend like, are you just liking every photo you see? It's like, yeah, man, it's my friends and stuff. It's like, I'm like,

this is why, that's why I thought, you know, that's why you think you have a career. And then you find out you don't, when you go on a tour, you're like, Oh fuck,

I have this many likes. I'm going to book fucking Carnegie hall. I'm too fucking stingy. Or I just don't like, I just never thought of like the feedback loop of like reward of like, or whatever. Anyway. Uh, so micro cheaters, beware. There is a new term for you liking thirst trap pictures or leaving comments with emojis, etc.

Next thing, Supreme Court. One of your favorite topics, Chris. Well, so as it stands, I know they shot down an EPA measure that would have kept the air clean. I haven't fully dove into what that was. But the main things that we saw as they wrap up their last session, they are allowing emergency abortions in Idaho. But the only reason is they said they're not actually going to rule on the merits quite yet so it's not we're not fully out of the water with that case where you know they were saying that someone has to be on the brink of death in that state before uh an emergency abortion could be performed um but another thing they also were seemingly gave the green light to are bribes uh there was a yeah local mayor who basically bought a bunch of trash

trucks for about a million dollars. And then that company gave him a nice little $13,000 donation after the fact. People are like, that seems like a tit for tat interaction there. He said it was a gratuity. Much in the same way, you know, that people are given plaques for their service from interest groups and things like that. service from interest groups and things like that well uh kavanaugh writing for the conservative majority said that the question in the case was quote whether federal law makes it a crime for state and local officials to accept such gratuities after the fact he wrote the answer is no so um yeah uh just fucking i i've been talking about it if you follow my social media i yeah i i tend to

not you but just in general uh you know i i talk about i mean the supreme court at this point to report on the supreme court as if it's like a legitimate organization um is i mean if they put a if they put like a little asterisk on, like, this is COVID misinformation, they should always have an asterisk on every Supreme Court decision from now on that this court is illegitimate. Right. Because that's not, like, up for debate. It's been proven.

This is a proven fact that we have a bunch of corrupted justices that have no right making these decisions. And so it's, like, very difficult for our sort of both sides journalism or just even like norms, like the idea that the Supreme court is compromised is not something that like the New York times or the Washington post are prepared to deal with because there are certain things that they expect to be givens that the Supreme court's not corrupted.

So they don't know how to discuss it. Well, they do it in the sense where they bring up how Senate like someone else is concerned with it rather than like as a statement of fact you're like this is like such a politicized body now it should be the headline every day they make the decisions for this whole fucking country yeah there's no sense of objectivity they're not just you know just like trying to uh make decisions based on the law as they see it, especially when you see things with Samuel Alito and his wife or Clarence Thomas or just all the conservative justices who have all these question marks

and murky shit behind them. And you're like, yeah, they were all put in there by the Federalist Society, and they're here to do the bidding of the conservative movement. And, yeah, we get stuff like this. Yeah, it should be the top story. That's the thing. It's like there's a couple top stories that should be every day, and then everything else should be underneath because they all follow from that.

That's like Citizens United and, you know, declining tax rates for the wealthy and the Supreme Court being corrupted as a result of those two aforementioned things. And then everything else should be under that. And that's why everybody feels crazy because they read the news. Yeah, those things explain so many of the things, even like with Jamal Bowman losing his primary race. I mean, that is millions of dollars that are all citizens united. That's such a disaster.

And so just fucking the fact that Hillaryary clinton is mixed up in that god damn like just that centrists are fascists and we need to get our heads around that yeah no 100 because insanity the status quo is violent it's death for people it's not it's not something we need to be embracing we need to be moving away from but again that's why both sides doesn't both sides only works if both sides are like you know you know years and years ago when both sides were sort of working toward one side was working to it doesn't matter it's that everybody knows this i'm just about to explain the last fucking clowns man we have to cut all this shit out all right uh but i get the frustration uh we going to take a quick break and we will be

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they've been wrong before, but it's clear here that the, the sort of strategy that the studio is going for is like, they're trying to do like a sound, like they're trying to mimic like what the sound of freedom did last year, like from middle America, they want it to come out or the July, like just kind of get in there,

get people out there into the into the theaters um and because they saw that this like indie film that was just a you know human trafficking i totally forgot that movie that's how fast it moves i forgot that movie existed yeah uh became one of the biggest fucking like it made a ton of money during the summer although a lot of people were just buying the tickets and, you know, propping up those numbers, but the movie might be easier to track if it actually was a right wing polemic, like sound of freedom.

Because the thing is with Kevin Costner, it's like, what's, we don't really even know where he is politically. He's quite almost, he's all over the place. He's like a red state coded, regular Joe,

but his work and like what he says out loud yeah like don't it's so true kevin costner is not just a person he is like a something something something something yeah you're like you know like with even like you know with this film people are even trying to figure out like what are you guys even saying about like colonialism? He's a white supremacist avatar. He's the hot face of he could be a Republican governor. It's the same old fucking. Oh, he would easily like. Yeah.

Just from the shit he did in the 80s and 90s when people would fucking eat his fucking campaign. Same like the same thing is like this just sort of idea that if you look like you could fit on Mount Rushmore, then you can be the governor of our state and then everything will be all right and if we just had kevin costa i mean he could probably fucking beat trump you know i mean like yeah he's so like he he's himself was a republican in the 80s who's friends with reagan but then he donated to al gore and obama in 2022 he showed up wearing a t-shirt with the phrase i'm for liz cheney and you're like oh because she was like she was like the first republican to really be like vehemently opposed to trump outwardly she's like she's actually a crusader for for freedom yeah yeah the emperor palpatine's daughter is so cool we love her we love her um but even like look at like field of dreams right like it's about a farmer in iowa

who loves baseball but like the opening scene is like like they're at a pta meeting where him and his wife are opposing book bans and then the villain is his yuppie brother-in-law who's only like about money rather than like the wonders of like our universe if these ghosts are playing baseball and well this is back to us needing to do a podcast where i watch movies yeah me and you doing it because i've never seen well anyway but then it ends we're like kevin costner keeps his farm because he's like he's like monetizes the fact that these like ancient baseball ghosts are playing baseball in his field and then so like the moral of the story ends up being like follow your dreams man and think outside the box you know as long as you know how to fucking commodify that shit and generate

revenue off of it okay like what is this what is this makes me think of it makes me think of fucking the bike riders i saw the bike riders that movie that's out now you know sure and it was a fun movie i enjoyed it a female actor who runs it, or his main character, basically, she's great in it. But it's sort of a Make America Great Again kind of message. It's another one of these biker gangs were better and less violent when they were all white, and it was the 50s. And it's like this Hispanic guy shows up and takes over the biker gang, and it's about the decline of biker gangs. I mean, it's not supposed to be right i guess the real truth of this is supposed to be based on a true story and maybe the guy was hispanic who who took over the club but it ends up with the feeling of

it yeah you can't i don't know how you can be so klutzy to make a movie like that and not see what you're what you're right how it's going to be perceived it took me out of the movie it made me not enjoy the movie because i was, this is actually like kind of, I get like maybe based on a true story, but it ends up being another one of these things where it's like, don't we wish like, look what happened that white men were in charge again. I mean,

it's really what it is. And it's still are, still are, you know, and that's what Kevin Costner represents. He represents the fetishization. I cannot say fetishization. and I love to say it. The fetishization of white daddies, of white American fetishization of dudes with big fucking heads.

And I want to know, the main thing I want to know about fucking Kevin Costner is just this, just this. What the fuck is on top of his head? And why has it been that same fuzzy, w wuzzy wispy shit since all the way back like what is that like did he ask for semi-bald like realistic looking somewhat lost yeah yeah who's his hair i want to know like i wish i could get rich and get some hair but yeah amen we all want to go to turkey man kevin costner man kevin costner needs to fucking stop making cowboy movies because he doesn't understand that he is a whether he knows it or not he's a right wing hero like he has all these like other like water world i know you probably didn't even see

water world i didn't see water world water world is like do you know what it's about vaguely like all the polar ice caps melt and it's all water yeah it's supposedly about climate change they never mentioned climate change once in that film just about the politics of his film then in 2008 chris just to put bring you down memory lane i know you were loving the movies then uh there was a film called swing vote that he was in that's literally about like the election coming down to with this one guy and what his vote like what direction the country is going to go in funny i gotta watch that yeah yeah it's just it's like off the walls but like again a lot of you're like what's the message here because like we were we were grappling with the fucking iraq war and shit and it's like nothing

there's like bro we're not we're not saying anything about fucking anything um and he even said like himself he's like the good thing about this is like, there isn't a message. And you're like, oh, uh, okay. Um, so it'll be interesting to see what happens with his new film. That's about the West, but has no take at all. Um, and I don't know, maybe if you really leaned into like the right wing shit, maybe you could get that sounder freedom bump, but we will see. Time will only tell. Well, that's, that's a lazy thing to say. Everything's political right now, whether it wants to be or not.

I mean, that's the thing. It's like you can try to pretend. You're making a statement. Yeah, it's not. I understand there was, when things are stable, there's a chance you could be doing something apolitical. But now everything's political because we're under attack from the inside. So it's not i mean that's not and that's not an overstatement so it's like i get you know he

has to understand like whether or not he knows that he's a white icon and that means something whether he doesn't want it to and then to make a cowboy movie i mean come on he's making a statement whether he unless he's an idiot and he's definitely not an idiot or he wouldn't be he wouldn't have such a nice hair system yeah hair system oh seriously i'm fascinated by that tuft chris uh i know you're on the internet have you saw you've seen the trend about raw dogging a flight i have not seen what's that what so raw dogging a flight is when people go on a flight of an airplane flight with in the entire time with zero entertainment like not not watching anything not listening to anything not reading just fucking turning your brain off

eyes straight ahead some people even brag they don't go to the bathroom or even drink water the whole time they're like i just sit there and i'm zoned out straight ahead um have you ever seen someone do this on a plane? I don't think so. I fall asleep when I'm on the plane. Exactly. I know. You're mostly in your own world.

Well, this is a whole thing people are talking about the internet. And now on deadline, it looks like they're A24 maybe making a movie about this. It's called The Entertainment System is Down. And this is the guy who directed Triangle of Sadness. It's described as a social satire. The movie takes place on a super long haul flight, I think more than 20 hours, while passengers would usually have access to digital entertainment. The protagonists of the movie

find themselves in a situation in which the entertainment system is in fact down. And they are, as Ocelin put it in an early interview quote doomed to deal with their boredom so i mean i think that doesn't sound like a good movie i'll tell you that i don't know what to say about that except that sounds like a horrible movie and it sounds like a24 has been infiltrated by i mean that's not a good movie i saw unless it's like unless it's a commentary on the fact that like people are just unable to even be in the stillness because i think

that is a thing like they'll probably hopefully they'll make it deeper than like just being like you know there must be a deeper hopefully they're gonna do like that you know what that means that you can't sit through some i mean yeah yeah i'm interested in i'm not interested also everybody knows this i don't care about being exempt everyone knows that they're over entertained and can't be by themselves i don't need a24 to like illustrate it yeah like okay you know i mean oh you know like i mean a24 they're not i mean they have a decent batting average so i'm i'm sure they know what they're coming from and i was mad about iron claw i just thought iron claw was i know you should have been cast i know you were talking you They have a decent batting average, so I'm sure they know what they're coming from. I was mad about Iron Claw. I just thought Iron Claw was really bad.

I know. You should have been cast. I know. You were salty about that. You messed up that audition. They didn't even ask me or anything. Yeah, I know. I know they didn't ask you.

They sent me some auditions, man, that are so ridiculous. I'm surprised I didn't get that. That's why I stopped doing auditions. But anyway, they send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not going to. What? Vernon Presley. They had me up for Vernon Elvis' father. Wow. I did that. I have the video. I should send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not going to. What? Vernon Presley. They had me up for Vernon Elvis's father.

Wow. I did that. I have the video. I should send you the video. I did for Elvis's dad. Oh, my God. We're going to fake Southern accent. We should have a video where we break down some of your self-tape auditions.

Oh, what a nightmare. Frame by frame. What a nightmare. Anyway, that's the most exciting thing I've ever heard going into this weekend. So I appreciate you putting that into my brain. I'll send you a couple. I'll send you a couple of these things. They're really funny.

I mean, it's really funny. Next time you're on, I want to watch them with you. Okay. I want to have that experience. I've got a bunch of them. I didn't get a single part. Zyte Gang, stay tuned when we do dive into the Crofton Audition Chronicles in an upcoming episode. We promise you that is coming.

Chris, thank you so much for joining me on this trending episode. So much fun. Guess what? We're going to be back tomorrow. Jack is on a wonderful trip away, rejuvenating, recharging his batteries. So, you know, you're stuck

with the substitute teacher for a little bit, but we're going to have a little fun. We'll see you tomorrow. Like we say, take care of yourselves, take care of each other, get the vaccine. You know, don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will see you tomorrow. Bye. Thank you all. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,

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