The Daily Zeitgeist - Trend Zeit Special 11/10: Kyle Rittenhouse, Paul Rudd, Shailene Woodley, Terry Crews, Astroworld

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

In this edition of Trend Zeit Special, Jack and Miles discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, Paul Rudd being the sexiest man alive, Shailene Woodley defending Aaron Rodgers, Terry Crews larping as a poor person, and more on the Astroworld tragedy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hope that move to Tennessee is working out for you. I think that was you moving to Tennessee. Anyways, I'm Jack. You are Miles. I don't know. yeah i'm miles that's right uh-huh where's the spoon uh-huh uh so the kyle rittenhouse uh trial is trending uh it continues to be like a bunch of legal analysis that is explaining to me why this motherfucker is going to get off and um me like it it just seems like it's starting from the wrong premise like everything starts from

the idea that he had the right to be there with an assault rifle like he had the right to insert himself with an assault rifle and like intent to use it like the police let him walk by this courtroom is gonna let him get away with murder like meanwhile a black child is not allowed to play with a gun in a fucking park yeah without getting shot by a cop and that cop being deemed within their rights yeah it's um i don't know man like just seeing him on that stand crying yeah bro i think a lot of people were like okay this feels this is getting real zimmerman-y um just watching this and also watching the the judge like yeah go at it with the prosecution so many times and now i think the the defense is asking for to try to have the judge declare a mistrial with prejudice uh so if that were to happen then the trial could

he could not be retried for these crimes they're asking him to basically dismiss the case yeah just just just boot it on out and let this young man go on with his life um yeah it's i don't know it's there's only so much of the watching um you know people get away with killing undisturbed um like you can only just watch that happen so many times and it starts getting a little bit trying uh i it's it starts getting a little bit trying uh i it's man my energy's so low when i look at the like this case the mod arbury's trial just a lot to like just thinking like man i don't know what the fuck justice really looks like in this place because clearly we're just still saying yo white vigilante armed vigilantes just do your thing y'all yeah this is your this is your town and you can do whatever the fuck you want you can be a minor and for say you're there to do medical

aid assistance and all this other shit i'm not trained for shit like right i don't know man it's just it's it's very seems like all the yeah and i i'm very frustrated with the twitter narrative of like well actually if you know the law it's like i i know what i saw and i know how the law generally works for like people who aren't uh made into like fucking white supremacist folk heroes i know how that usually works yeah this all those technicalities hmm they seem to all be working out for him um yeah and we're all instead of you know when a woman cries it's they're unstable but when a little boy uh cries after fucking murdering people we're like oh i see he's just a little boy leave him alone because you know uh yeah i don't know and the george zimmerman thing um you know, uh, yeah, I don't know. And the George Zimmerman thing,

um, you know, I think he, he's kind of been on a downward spiral, like since he got away with murdering a child, the way I've always read that is that like, he is sort of like, is that guy bagel boss or bagel store guy,

whatever that guy, like got famous for being a toxic monster and like immediately just like became that toxic monster like times two like the the george zimmerman thing like he seemed to like start trading on his celebrity is that it wasn't like the pressure of like being uh you know the hate got to him he seemed to feed off the hate it was just that he was a fucking folk hero for nazis and i think the same shit's gonna happen to kyle rittenhouse and um i don't know like zimmerman loved it mean, he's still doing shit now, like wearing his Confederate flag shit and doing fucking conventions

where they'll show you how to shoot people. It's fucking... Yeah. Whatever, man. This is how grim this fucking place is. Yeah. You know, all you see all the time is that you know if you're if you're aligned with justice whether that's for racial equality or you know doing what's right for economic equity man you

get in the fucking way all bets are off doesn't matter at that point, they will justify the loss of your life every time. And every now and then you get these sort of sacrificial lambs that they'll just sort of be like, hey, see, see, come on now. Don't that. That should keep your appetite for justice down a little bit. Right. But it's just so inconsistent and it's just fucking man. I'm sick of this shit. Yeah.

Well, Paul Rudd's been named people's sexiest man miles oh thank god for this podcast like that yeah tell me more about paul rudd and the sexiest man really sure okay fuck itvity? I think that's the thing. There was the meme that Paul Rudd looks like he hasn't aged a day since fucking Clueless. Right. He looks great for his age. I also caught up with Chrissy Teigen

outside of a restaurant and she had a theory as to why we all find Paul Rudd sexy. It's because he's funny. so heard that all right you know i don't know i think who was it i think it was on jezebel or something they're like local dilf area dilf get voted uh hottest man in america yeah that that seems about right for him the thing that i always just think about is him and joe buck being classmates in college yeah and like they tried to think there was like this joe buck pilot where joe buck was like trying to be funny um and his hair plugs almost kill him co-starred paul rudd uh didn't he almost die because of his hair plugs i don't know you've

brought that up before and i'm always like i gotta look this shit up and i never remember to um because i'm incapable yes yo keeping a story about joe buck alive in my joe buck reveals how hair replacement hair plug addiction nearly cost him his life wow so he got a virus that fucked up his voice but it wasn't that he got a virus he said his loss of speech was a side effect of a hair transplant procedure what yes this this dude is like fucking tobias funke you know i mean graph versus host that's that's wild is that yeah what does his hair look like now does it look good it's just like i don't know it's weird it's just little joe buck whiskers up there you know um and i god i wonder if he always people go you were you're really classmates with paul rudd that dude like were you were you drinking like a different water on campus right you know good good for paul rudd

yeah i mean it's about time that guy caught a break uh what is that yeah he i've seen some looks from him that look totally different but yeah all right it does look like he's some looks from that guy i'm seeing some looks from joe buck that uh i'm not gonna lie uh kind of feeling it's pretty fucking good uh yeah but joe buck came in at number two on people's sexiest man list ah fuck so close yet so far i do i do feel like i could have seen this coming the paul rudd sexiest, just based on the fact that Reddit memes fuel the media industry now. It's like,

look at Paul Rudd, he looks great, type memes were a thing for the past five years. And so suddenly... Anyways, not to say he's not sexy, because Dilf,

you know? Am I right? Dilfer. Aaron Rodgers and shailene woodley are trending because she is defending i don't know like she she's got that edge of like uh reminding me a little bit of like uh alec baldwin uh hillary baldwin like kind of coming out with the with the hot hot energy against the um journalist interviewing her husband even though like you know it's not clear what what you're mad about necessarily like you the thing that everyone's talking about your husband for doing he did he fucked up yeah um and i don't know why she's i mean look this guy just straight up fucking lied lied he couldn't even be a he was

a coward anti-vaxxer right you know what i mean i bet other anti-vaxxers like damn i wish that dude was really out with it more rather than being all fucking a shook anti-vaxxer right shook one and uh yeah now she's here to you know be like this is all being blown out of proportion i know a lot of the things she was responding to was this like erroneous image that was saying that aaron rogers was like out having coffee that shit happens every day like i know so many people who have been misidentified in photos i've seen that happen constantly like that oh that's right at your murder your murder trial right and you know it was a big uh fortunately i was uh defended by matt lock and so he did uh not only

get me off but uh also uh identify the murderer uh in the courtroom who happened to be in the courtroom at the time um it was kind of amazing uh but that like it just reeks of like hey look over here this is the thing we should be mad at they said this was aaron rogers but his feet size are all wrong right oh which is a textbook hilaria which is like oh you don't know her name yeah you don't know her name it's a mistrial uh-huh yeah i'm sorry your honor uh who are you talking to and then that same judge comes in from the fucking street yeah yeah yeah could you imagine i i was seeing some articles i think it was like in deadline where they were like hollywood studios are getting nervous as vaccine mandates become more rigorous and concrete uh around actors um apparently there

are a lot of aaron rogers style actors who are just kind of coasting underneath the surface and like they're not getting the vaccine but they're also not out here being like fuck the vaccine um and pretty soon though they're gonna have to you know shut down some productions have the people leave the set of movies you know and then and then shit happens like so yeah hollywood uses this to find a new batch of performers to pay less than the established stars like that would be yeah this is the new uh this is the new chris pratt you think pratt i feel like pratt would not be shocking uh i'm not i mean honestly i'm not shocked by anything out of anyone in hollywood at this point like even people who you'd be like oh yeah of course you know kate hudson got

vaccinated i would be shocked that she did get vaccinated. Me too. I wonder, what do you think? Because we've already clearly seen Ice Cube isn't fucking with it. Right. I don't think his son is either. I think we can assume Shailene Woodley is not fucking with it. Even though she's been immunized.

Oh, you're right. She's been immunized. Yeah. I hope this kind of scrutiny does need to if you're gonna if we're going to actually be you know screaming about aaron rogers and kairi it you you also have to look to other people who have uh outsized role and influencing people um and don't you know it's again it's so easy like you're saying to just kind of just start you know marinate in the back and not have the spotlight on you but I'm curious

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Why is he going to... He's like, I'm just stopping by Amazon. They let me come work at the store or something? Yeah, at the fulfillment center. And he's laughing. He's like, how do I make a box that you're timed on making a certain number per second? Right.

Sorry, can I slow you down? It's for a bit. Does the arrow go up on the box? Where do I tape it? Right. Hi, other person. They pay for college tuition yeah they do what should i major in i have a yeah i have a very expensive wristwatch on that's the moment where it's like

could you imagine though seriously me needing help paying for college at this for college i mean this watch is worth more than your fucking life um but yeah just going in it reminded me a little like a slickly packaged version of this uh van damme video um have you seen that where he goes back to the fulfillment center that he worked at when he was just starting out and is just coked out of his head and walking around like jump kicking boxes out of people's hands and shit being like people ask me am i for real of course i'm for real and then like spin jump kicking boxes out of people's hands and shit being like people ask me am i for real of course i'm for real and then like spin kicks a box out of some dude's hands it's fucking awesome um holy shit no i didn't even have this because terry cruz didn't even

start there he's just they're just using their reputation washing with a dude with a shitty reputation so amazon yeah wasted fucking more money could have just maybe whatever paid people more and rather than trying to get terry crews to coerce like coax people into to coming into a fulfillment center yeah um but it's wild though like that when you see that ad though and he's like we're hiring everywhere and yeah when you see that you're like holy shit man like this is the world that they're creating too where they're for some for certain places like the one opportunity for employment and you know you can just literally it's not even like a focused regional ad it's like oh motherfucker we're everywhere right give up your life part-time for us okay amazon and finally uh astroworld is trending continues to trend you made a really good point before we started recording about how this seems to be like very like poignant and like i think it's like all people in gen z are talking about because

travis scott is like a very specific artist to them yeah and i think it's something too where you got a lot of people you know millennials and gen z alike you know gathered in a place and experiencing like just a horrific event and that and like you can just see like from all like there's so many people on tiktok who were there saying like this is what i saw like this is so awful and you know a lot of the thing you'd hear was is how they couldn't believe like they were trying to ask for help yeah and no one responded right and i think that's a very you know i think people go through moments like that in their lives too where you realize oh shit i, sometimes we're just screaming into a void, hoping that someone will acknowledge our humanity and it didn't happen.

And yeah, it's and it's just such a fucking tragic event. There was another person who they just declared was was brain dead in the hospital. And, you know, we're seeing just like all kinds of and this is inspiring all kinds of stuff like whether like on there's like all kinds of subreddits popping up like there's one called like fuck travis scott and then like it just a bunch of people came in there and got so racist we're just like here's a good opportunity to get angry at this black person and people and like then people in the subreddit are like this is to like help understand this tragedy like right this isn't a lightning rod for you to get your like racist jokes off yeah um

but yeah it's it's there's i mean the more we learn the more we're like god every like fucking everything was just going wrong yeah yeah i'm curious like when we take a look back how much of the stuff that puts the blame on the individual artists is just um you know a combination of inherent like racism in american culture and also just the fact that like it's more fun to blame the artist than uh fucking a faceless live nation who could who has more money than fucking anything you know yeah and i'm sure that'll be interesting when they start when the talent venue promoter production company start pointing the finger at each other right and seeing how that you know all goes about but like you know it's hard like a lot of people have been trying to figure out

what is travis's role in this you see that there are people pleading for him to stop the show that he he has noticed or that like at some point you see that somebody came on stage to tell him something right and he was kind of like oh yeah yeah yeah right but you know at this point it's just like seeing all kinds of weird shit from like the satanic bullshit to the people getting hit with drugs in the audience nonsense. always pops up and it's never true that people are you know getting their uh their their crime of choice is to give other people their drugs surreptitiously and then like walk away never seems to be like an actual crime people are trying to get away with but a detail from the needle spiking story on the houston chronicle has like one of, I think the chief of police saying that his department noticed attendees quote going down during the concert at nine 30 and immediately notified concert organizers.

The event was called off 40 minutes later after discussions that included the fire department and officials with energy park that, uh, noticing attendees going down is in the context of him talking about people getting needle spiked and we know that like the inadvertent fentanyl poisoning is something that the police have been obsessed with and like spreading around as a rumor and there's absolutely no evidence of it i'm just wondering like how much their uh propensity to like believe that somebody is always trying to poison them with fentanyl is like distracted them from what was actually going on right rather than be like oh maybe people are being compressed to death right like always happens in fucking crowds if you're not absolutely

careful and constantly guarding against it maybe yeah it's just a massive one yeah for sure it's uh yeah i mean they're so cop brained you know a lot of people they you know there was a vice article where they were kind of talking to people like you know drug experts who are like well first of all like you most if anything if you're getting hit with something with a needle unless they're actually getting your veins out you're most likely gonna muscle that you're gonna get it's gonna go into your muscle tissue and it spreads much slower than if it were intravenously. So there was like one thing they're saying also the Narcan thing, they're saying like, well, the guy, they had to hit him with Narcan. And then he like was more, you know, uh, he,

he kind of was like revived or whatever. And a lot of people say like, you can be not actually experiencing an opioid overdose and get hit with Narcan and feel on some level a level of clarity so yeah it's there is a lot of you know their habits of trying to explain what's happening going on because they say the same thing with like the guy who you know that dubious video where like the cop was like oh my god i'm near fentanyl and i'm overdosing they're like that dude probably had a panic attack and the narcan may have just helped him out of the panic attack it's not that it's only working for this specific purpose um all that to say i think all of this stuff completely takes the eye off of the prizes which are the people who are making the decisions on how much money to spend to set up this thing

and train people and have enough people staffed there because it's all going to boil down to that as well i mean obviously there is going to be some level of you know what travis scott had known or not known or did or didn't do but a lot of people who look at the planning of the show they're like this whole thing was set up for audience people like if the view was obstructed the only option you had was to move forward closer to the stage and there wasn't a lot of direction for you know the for people to flow out of so yikes yeah i i i hope honestly like for all the people who are have lost their like young kids or their like you know siblings and things like that partners that's just the most fucked tragedy it's like people going somewhere that they wanted to be

and have a good time and it ends in the absolute worst way imaginable yeah i also don't feel like the media is putting it as much in the context of other examples of like people of this happening i feel like yeah which would be i think helpful for some of the younger people who are not like helpful in making it uh any less painful but just helpful in making sense of it and like properly contextualizing it yeah and knowing the risks that do present themselves in like large crowds uh and i think a lot of it's interesting i mean i guess i don't know generationally if there is something where americans have been like oh yeah that thing because like woodstock 99 like maybe three people died right um i don't know what the

more recent thing is of this with like a crowd you know a crowd crush leading to the loss of life but you know like there's plenty of examples like you know as a soccer fan the hillsborough disaster uh you know where 96 people off their lost their lives is like a thing that's always in a lot of footy fans heads is like a thing of like that was a terrible moment where things were completely ill planned and people lost their lives and now it's kind of in the back of everyone's head of like you're like hey this shit can happen and yeah maybe this is a moment where that will be kind of like in the culture where people will kind of be more aware of something like this too yeah not to say that it's on the on people in a crowd but just in general to have situational awareness yeah there's this new yorker article that i read back in 2011 uh

about this that but it was talking about a doorbuster black friday sale that people just blamed on everybody's going crazy for like the walmart deal um but they like kind of systematically go through and explain what we're talking about here, like the fluid dynamics of being part of a massive crowd that is pushing in the same direction. But it just gets, you know, the idea there is a cultural need for Black Friday, like Americans are crazy for sales content every year. And so it just got fed into that as opposed to a story about like the um danger of like being part of a crowd like how it can take on a life of its own and kill you

poor poor crowd management too yeah yeah because like it's easy to just always be like i don't know man people are just so turnt up for the sales yeah people are so turnt up for travis scott yeah well it's like but yeah there's also an environment that's contributing to the loss of life, too. Ignore that part is just it does a disservice to the people that lost their lives and potentially other people that could be at risk down the road. Yeah. All right. Well, those are some of the horrible things that are trending this Wednesday afternoon. Bleak one.

Yeah. But we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We'll talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye.

Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

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