The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendall Roy 5/31: Boycott Target, Al Pacino, Phone Dreams, Twitter, Lost

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

In this edition of Trendall Roy, Jack and Miles discuss Forgiato Blow's new single "Boycott Target", Al Pacino (not to be outdone by Robert DeNiro) having a baby at 83, cellphones being mysteriously absent from dreams, Twitter being worth WAY less than Elon payed for it, and the racist work environment engendered by Damon Lindelof on Lost!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.

If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of Trendle Roy.

Hey. Alright guys, so today on the rewatchables we were talking about the winners and the losers of the succession finale. Trendle Roy, big L. we were talking about the winners and the losers of the succession finale kendall roy big big l big winner he somehow turns out i think big win that was a big winner yeah actually losing is winning as my i mean if you think about it like if they hadn't stuck that last bit on it with him looking out of the river i would have been like well that's like probably better for him in the

long run but they're like nah this dude's just gonna be like this Mope Town Records Mope Town he's fucking gone speaking of Motown we've got another golden age of music coming to us right now courtesy

of one Forgiato Blow is that what we're calling him oh yeah Jack you don't know and you don't know of one Forgiato Blow? Is that what we're calling him? Jack, you don't know? And you don't know? Your guns are hand-me-downs. That's what I say.

This fellow, he released a song, Boycott Target. Dude, that is the sickest fucking name for a song. So tight. It works on target wait what's it about on so many levels oh sorry no it just works on a single level it's a directive call to action put the call to action in your song title and that's how you know it is good art

um so this is this is like a mega rapper uh he shot a music video at the capital on january 6th and never forget using that sort of scramble uh cinema verite on the fly stealing shots ethos he also had everything for boycott target in a target um and its supporters his supporters trump's supporters have gotten the song to the top of the itunes charts uh knocking taylor swift out of the number one slot um and he's claiming that apple is shadow banning the song uh i'm sorry the song that as if you might you might remember from 15 seconds ago is the number one song on the charts of

iTunes I look at say all these people do are talking these buzzwords yeah like because it's meaningless like like we talk about the default on the debt ceiling tomorrow's episode like they just hear like a word and like yeah I'm gonna bandy it about I'll tell you who's defaulting it's default of Joe Biden yeah you who's defaulting it's default of joe biden yeah

is who's defaulted is but anyways the reason it's so popular is because it has an undeniable melody and i don't know actually it's because uh people like marjorie taylor green is uh promoting it like everywhere it's i like how even in like his like tweet or whatever he's like it's shadow banned all over the world right now it's literally what he said like what what the fuck does that mean but yeah i mean the video itself is really something else first of all i have to imagine something's happening behind the scenes like where a small number of people have found a way to like game the system and also just have the will

like they are in such desperate need of a culture a cultural win that I don't doubt that they are like they have something that is triggering it making it seem like this song is being listened to more than it is because it's bad the

video yeah as you were referencing um pretty great i mean he's going through target and he's grabbing shit like bud light you know from the shelves and like taking off with it or like tampax but yeah what is he's mad at Tampax? I don't know. Or it's probably for... It's probably for liberals. Right. Because soy men need... Here's your tampon, lib. And in the screen cap, he does look like he's viewing a...

Like he's finding out about Tampax for the first time. Yeah. He looks like a discerning consumer, to be honest. He's like, now, is it a super kind of day? I don't know.

The video, he is doing the exact opposite of what he's telling people to be honest he's like now is it a super kind of day i don't know the video he is doing the exact opposite of what he's telling people to be doing because he's just buying so much bud light and tampons uh he also uh is mad at a toy featuring uh the only female paw patrol character sky i believe her name is um which i don't think that was a controversy. Are they really? These are grown men who are really angry over the idea

of a girl dog existing in the world of Adventure Bay. I mean, if they think tampons are an affront to their fucking movement, then I can see why they... But again, I'm like, what is the occupation of that dog? Is it the cop? No, she's a pilot. fucking movement then i can see why they but again i'm like what why is that even like a like what is the occupation of that dog is it the cop no she's a pilot sky what the fuck

works on many levels more levels than this song like his one uh like friend of color who's willing to debase himself and be in this video is looking at the toy so he's throwing his hands up like the fuck is this toy fuck is this a girl dog those aren't those aren't real those aren't exist those aren't exist the the fact that like a a show that is like all boys and a girl

is like too much girl for them is oh maybe that's what it is he's like yo also get rid of the april o'neill character from ninja turtles okay just fuck out of here world of all boys just fucking mutant turtles bro that's it and a rat fine but i think to your point right like the reason this shit takes off is because all of their like homebrew conservative media is like so bad it always takes someone who started as a liberal and then just turned or like wasn't always

in this world and then turned to it to like give it the sort of like polish that looks like professional content or something yeah because this guy wasn't always mega rapping he was just a plain old shitty rapper yeah couldn't get anybody fucking to listen to him i mean he has many other mega mega rap songs such as uh one that samples you can call me out by paul simon called you can call me kyle about kyle rittenhouse um yeah but this is his biggest hit um his real name is not for giotto blow it is kurt jantz what's up you got kurt jantz on the line um he was just a failed white rapper whose songs about money cars guns and women never got any attention so he pivoted to uh rapping about trump and developed a following of garbage people kurt jance should be a word for jean shorts

i think oh yeah kurt as in short and then jance as in jean pants right or like or like is it a skirt with built-in jean pants underneath now we're talking look man hey forgiato get at us man yes we got ideas one of them being end your career now he uh he has a tattoo of trump on his leg with the word self-made um which obviously trump is not self-made he like inherited millions and millions of dollars like as a child uh jance's family are millionaires his grandfather started auto trader magazine fucking nepo failed rapper come on man come on he claims he's legitimate because he was homeless for over a year because he was like briefly disinherited or something who the fuck knows right could you imagine he's like yeah my grandfather said i was

acting too black so he kicked me out of the family. And then I was homeless for a year. Now I'm a legit rapper because I was home. I'm sorry. What is hip hop exactly? Being homeless? Right. Yeah, I guess so. Or is that just like his way of saying, like, look, I know I've had everything handed to me on a silver platter or spoon, but I barely spent my parents money for like one year.

There was a period where I was not a homeowner uh i was just renting it's really hard so i know what it's like i get it there's a lot of nwa i've started connecting with the streets all right uh al Pacino is expecting a new baby. We recently learned that Robert De Niro had a seventh child at the age of 79. And yeah, I don't know what they're putting in the drinking water on the set of Heat, but now Al Pacino is going to have a baby at the age of 83 with his girlfriend, Noor Al-Fala. He already has three children, the youngest being his 22 year old twins. Um, and I don't know.

I, this, so when the whole thing happened between like Pacino versus De Niro, young Pacino versus young De Niro, like I should, the showdown, there, there was something in me that was like,

they're paying attention to this. Like there, cause there, there was something in me that was like, they're paying attention to this. Like they're, cause there, there was, there were always those rumors about like how on the set of heat, like they couldn't even like be on set together, which is why like the whole movie, like,

you know, when it first came out, the big promise was like, finally Pacino and De Niro in a movie, in a scene together. And then there's never a shot where they're like clearly there's a scene that they share where they're like across from each other but it's shot with like over the shoulder shots you never see them like on framed up together framed up together and i don't know they like kind of occupy this very similar position. And so I'm wondering if this isn't baby is not at least partially motivated by the Pacino De Niro hot.

So where they were like 50 50 right down the middle. But is that enough time for conception conception to occur from al pacino yeah like there's a does it line up with that or i think overarchingly i think to your point is probably like he probably heard de niro was about to have another kid a few months ago and he's like fuck yeah maybe get in here i've been told by my urologist that it is not a good idea at all 83 year old sperms not quite what they used to be uh but hey i guess yeah go off go off al do you truly that just makes it so funny to me like if they part of him is so he's just so pressed by the idea of deniro having a kid like deniro

had a kid and then there were all those memes about i i'm not assuming that al pacino is a very online person but you know the it's in the cultural shared consciousness uh people were like oh deniro still out here fucking and then that led to a poll about who, which of them was more attractive in their prime. And then that led to Al Pacino being like, ah, I'm still out here, babe.

Yeah. Don't worry. I'll just, it's fine, bro. You 83, man. Yeah.

83. You are 83. Your partner was, you were 54 when your partner was born, fam. That's a bit of an age gap. But again, apparently she likes the older men. Yeah, she's been romantically linked to Clint Eastwood, Mick Jagger.

Clint Eastwood? I'm sorry, that feels like a bridge too far. I get it. You fucking with like old Al Pacino, Mick Jagger got the swagger, but not get off my lawn. Clint Eastwood. Hell no. But hey, look, do you?

I hope you're getting whatever you're looking for. Whenever your type is that strong, you're going to make some exceptions. Yeah. My type is extremely famous sex symbol from the year 1972. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's take a quick break.

We'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?

Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?

Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more

than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.

I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.

Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back and this is just something a question that i've seen trending on twitter uh zephyr on call tweeted how is it 2023 and nobody's come up with a satisfying explanation as to why cell phones never show up

in our dreams if we're using them for 12 hours a day um and then jason pargin just retweeted and was like so have you ever had a phone in your dream i haven't i also have not yeah i'm my i'm sorry i got really distracted jack i was looking at nora alfalo's instagram oh the last picture she posted with al pacino is her al pacino who looks this motherfucker looked like he's mid-sentencing where am i um and they're at an art gallery which i think i feel like she's grifting this man uh she says my friend bennett mill Miller has an exhibition of new prints produced using a dolly image generator. Yes. So she dragged Al Pacino's ass to lend some cred to this man's AI art exhibit. Oh, hell no.

Yeah. Al Pacino lost half of his life savings on the Bitcoin. Oh, look at him. He looks this is this is some Weekend at Bernie shit. He looks pretty good for 83, but 483 is a big... He didn't know what doll E was? Nah. What the fuck were they

telling him when they pulled up to the Gagosian fucking gallery? You're telling me a computer made that image? How? Wow! These things are strong. Creative. Pacino, I picasso watch out okay i'm sorry but back to the fucking phones thing i've never had a phone in your dream or in real life none or in real life you know that i'm like bill murray you know you call my my one voicemail line and i and i hit you back but like in my dreams the most

technologically advanced it's ever been has been like me flying a plane but i was trying to keep it from crashing oh i have a lot of car dreams like i some of my earliest dreams are car dreams some of my earliest work some of my earliest work were my uh recurring nightmares about being in the back seat of the car and my mom gets out to like run an errand and the car takes off with me in it um like phantom driver style or like driver style or you're like like in the back getting around yeah yeah that was it is weird like i have technology in my dreams but not phones uh super producer brian was pointing out that like we can't really read in our dreams like our dreaming brain isn't good at producing text like readable text and i i have

experienced that where i'm like trying to read something and realize like the letters aren't anything and i'm like wait what the fuck is that right there i can't read but uh but anyways uh that's something i'd be interested in hearing from listeners about have you have you dreamt phones because like the one in response to jason's query people were like i have had stress dreams where i'm trying to call 911 because of something that's happening and the phone doesn't work right i'm sure i have had stress dreams where i'm trying to call 9-1-1 because of something that's happening and the phone doesn't work right i'm sure i've had that but i'm sure it was just with like the phone of my childhood it says a lot about you i don't call 9-1-1 yeah yeah no that's not gonna solve my problems but yeah that's a nightmare hello there's a nightmare who showed

up a murder squad. But yeah, I mean, tech stuff. Yeah, and I was telling you that right now, my dreams. The other big thing is smoking weed. That kind of fucks up. I've noticed that. When I'm not smoking weed, then I'm like, what the fuck are these dreams? But recently, I've been having dreams, but they're all to do with my baby becoming too tall and jumping out the bassinet

and i gotta like keep them from like running out the house those are no dreams miles i know i know yeah wait where'd he go uh superducer brian was saying that phones are essentially part of our minds so like it's like an such an extension of you yeah because like i don't have car dreams now that i can drive my car right because once you're driving a car your car just becomes an extension of your body oh oh so that's you said your earlier work was this is pre-driving jack this was pre when i was in the back seat like my only experience of a car was like being in the back seat strapped in while my mom was running into,

I think that was a lot more common back in the day. It's just be like, you wait out here for 45 minutes. Oh yeah. My grandmother did that too. And I took the e-brake off and the car started rolling down the hill. Yeah. But I almost fucking killed myself.

It was pretty, pretty bad, but yeah. So he, Brian was pointing out, it would be like dreaming about your own brain or like your eyes or you know something like that my face eggs your face eggs that is my big takeaway from the succession finale that's the best part of that finale honestly it was face eggs everything

else like that's just a thing they know they're like i know you don't like eyes a little grotesque little face eggs like to stick my thumbs and that fella's face eggs you know yeah as we talked about um let's see twitter might be worth one third what elon musk paid for it last fall uh and that's that's not just like shit posting that is fidelity has marked it down uh marked down their investment to that level um and i mean who would have thought i mean again we've been watching it car slow motion car crash every fucking day there's something and especially after i'm reminded of a scene from a princess bride oh no yeah you did cut out the 15 seconds of silence and short 13 jack that came before it was only 13 seconds find a new angle the pause would have fit in an instagram story uh and uh finally there there's a new report from Vanity Fair about the lost writer's room and just what a disaster it was.

Yo, like racist and sexist, racist, fucked up. Carlton Cuse, Damon Lindelof all got like they're getting I mean, they look like shit after this. This story. But like Harold Perrineau, the black man who plays Michael, he talks about like in the thing, it's like, you know, he was featured, you know, kind of started his appearances were lessening as the seasons went along. And it turns out there was absolutely like there was some shit going on because he was like, oh, yeah, me and Daniel Day Kim, we were reduced to like the black guy and the Asian guy. And then you had the other the main characters, which are yeah, me and Daniel Dae Kim, we were reduced to the black guy and the Asian guy. And then you had the main characters, which were Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. And he goes on to talk about how Malcolm David Kelly, who played Walt, his son, had a huge growth spurt between seasons.

And that completely fucked with the showrunners who didn't know how to come up with, I don't know, an explanation. Because you're already on this wacky motherfucking island yeah that they just decided oh you know what maybe we'll just have uh him you know disappeared by the others yo they could have invented the beach from old like yeah 20 years before and right yeah that then i mean that could have been ip that could have been lost ip Locke was out here walking you can't come up with a reason that this kid is getting called I think we're alright in the beginning you had us thinking there were polar bears and shit running around

although we do know that was because of the D.A.R.M. initiative all that to say is Harold Perrineau pulled up to the writers showrunners and was basically like yo what's going on my character barely gives a fuck about his own son and he told them quote i don't think i can do that this is just furthering the narrative that nobody cares about black boys even black fathers yeah and you know when this happened reasonably he said i don't have to be the first i don't have to have the

most episodes but i'd like to be in the mix but it seems like this is now a story about jack and kate and swear right and then they were like oh you're no longer on the show yeah and when that happened apparently he was told carlton q's told him quote well you said to us if we don't have anything good for you you want to go you said you don't have enough work here uh so dude we're letting you go yeah and then in this book like there's also saying that uh lindel said, quote, he called me racist. So I fired his ass. Wow. Yeah.

Cool, man. I mean, like now he's like trying to be like, yo, that was an L. Like when I was running that room, like Lindelof doesn't deny it. But God, I mean, why am I surprised? Like this is this is this is such the norm in Hollywood, especially when you have these like rooms too, where like Lindelof himself is like, yeah, I figured if I had like one person that wasn't like a white guy or something,

it would be good. But I didn't realize how terrible it would be for this black woman to be in a writer's room. When we're talking about like these like graphic lynching lynching scenes that won't make it into the show. Right. Jesus. All right.

Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, May 31st. We are back tomorrow in June with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.

And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just

because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of

Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.