The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendan Gleeson 9/25: WGA, Trump, Sen. Bob Menendez, The Expendables, Clarence Thomas

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

In this edition of Trendan Gleeson, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the tentative WGA agreement, Trump killing it in the polls, Sen. Bob Menendez getting indicted, the new Expendables film flopping real hard, and the latest and greatest Clarence Thomas scandal!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Trending. September 25th. Trending Gleason. Is that Trending Gleason? That's someone, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great actor. Great actor.

Great actor. His son's getting in the game too now. Or son's been in the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one's his son? Isn't his son called Donagal? Donagal? That's not around there, Miles.

Dominal. That's his son? Dominal. Damn, I didn't realize that was his son. Yes, that's Brendan Gleeson's baby. Wow. Anyways, I'm Jack, That's miles.

Uh, this is a podcast where you hear old people learn things that you people knew that you knew a decade ago. And I'm like, wow, I'm famously not Irish, but how do you pronounce that name? Domino?

I don't know, man. Domino. Domino. Domino. Um, anyway, I know? I don't know, man. Domino? Domino? Domino. It's like domination. I know we got Irish side gang. Can y'all please put me on to...

I feel like it'll just be like a kind of mixed together syllable. It's probably Donald. Because I feel like a lot of the names that I hear were Irish names it's like, oh, you're just like a lot of the names that i hear like were like irish names like oh you're just ignoring a lot of the other letters yeah and you get this other one like siobhan like siobhan always fucked me up yeah c-o-b-a-n yeah man i used to say i

said siobhan once and people were like what i'm like i'm sorry i didn't know i know not i'm ignorant we're raised on the internet i don't know um it's not all right uh how are you today good sir i'm a little under the weather i must admit uh not like covid related i'm just exhausted and i have my allergies caused like i get a cough because i'm just i'm creating all kinds of liquids in my sinus areas um but yeah other than that i feel i'm over the weather in my pj bro uh so you gotta get like me okay okay all right all right you got the pool hair too man i got i was just talking to miles uh i have like eraser head hair right now dude the body you're getting on that shit i yeah so i've been swimming a lot my uncomfortable thing to kick off the morning

uh that that i've been doing to just like get into it pop in the pool you know the pool is in the 60s uh right in LA. It's cold. Do some laps in the pool. That's disgusting. The most I would do would be a cold plunge and get the fuck out and be like, that was stupid. The laps warm you up.

It has done something to my hair where it is I can't think of an example of somebody who who has had this quite hair going on but it's um it's like michael richards and i'd hate to bring up the disgraced racist that is what i'm going for but i just feel like i haven't quite gotten it there yeah yeah yeah yeah so anyways uh that's what's going on in my life. Okay. How about you? What was your weekend like? I was in Portland.

I was in Portland for a wedding. Shout out to Happy Couple. It was beautiful. Very non-traditional wedding. There was no officiant. It was a lot of just offerings of love and shit. Very hippie. Very crunchy. Very crunchy.

But it was dope because i've never really been to a wedding that like goes that far away from the typical sort of trappings of a wedding and it was beautiful because in a way like this really distills like the love of the two people down into this very potent form and you're like no man like bask in the love of these two people like don't worry about if there's a ain't no dj but the spotify playlist is lit and don't worry if there's no one presiding over it because it was all like music and yeah it was great it's great how are the how are the parents of the married folks dealing with great they did good yeah yeah yeah what do you mean like what what kind of i don't know i'm just curious if they if the like very newfangled uh politics oh no they

they are of like these are the parents of those people like okay got it yeah yeah yeah like it makes sense like yeah yeah it was just crunchy love all around crunchy love yeah how about you not just pulling it yeah just pulling it man just hanging out in my pool are you moisturizing what kind of what's what do you do afterwards like are you just rinsing your hair off you are you adding sometimes and sometimes i'm uh forget like i don't have time to take a shower afterwards and then i'll try and i think that's what what's going on up here yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um but anybody any lifeguardsguards, let me know if you have any suggestions. It has gotten, it's given me a whole new look. Yeah.

I feel like I could fool some facial recognition stuff with what I got going on right now. You got that just like the closer to, like the higher the hair, the closer to God mentality going on right now. Yeah, that's right. Ben Schwartz, I think, also had hair like this. The higher the hair, the closer to God kind of mentality going on right now. That's right. Ben Schwartz, I think, also had hair like this at certain points in his career. Anyways, Miles, should we tell them some things we think are overrated and underrated?

You want to kick us off? What do we do first? Under or over? Let's go under. Under? I felt terrible writing this because it felt so cliched for this show but taco bell is underrated not because i'm about to be like it's good therefore you're gonna like it i housed some taco bell this weekend it was so good i was

at this wedding right fucking with the such a diverse cast of people and like a lot of us were sharing a house um and a lot of these people like i know uh pretty well and we're talking like people across the entire spectrum from like occupations like working for the federal government like autism and adhd like phd researchers fucking english teachers people that work in tech identities across like the gender spectrum fucking everything like everybody was in there okay yeah and at the end of the wedding night we were fucking you know get the the post wedding you're like damn i can fucking eat again like i really could eat again and there was this so like we were all trying to figure out what to

eat we everybody clocked that there was a Taco Bell nearby the house that we were staying at. But nobody mentioned that they clocked the Taco Bell. Wow. And then, like, slowly, we're like, shit, what's open this late? Blah, blah, blah. And then, like, one person, I was like, there's a Taco Bell. Another person was like, oh, yeah, I saw that up the street. Then it caused a chain reaction.

And then, like, everyone was kind of, of like mumbling all non-committal at first like oh i don't know maybe like we could get taco bell and then there was unanimous agreement across yes like the great insider people were like i wanted to say that but i wasn't sure we bought so many motherfucking shame so many party packs like it was wild to like the celebration people what's your order they're like oh i knew it um and the way we ate this fucking taco it was alarming like uh her majesty's like my in-laws were also there and like and like another group of parents of like friends i know were there and they watched like you guys are just waiting for the taco bell to get here like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then when they saw the amount generation no they were not they were not aware they were

not aware of the power of the bell they did not they lived menos they did not live mas okay and when they when like afterwards when they saw the amount of food they're like you guys are gonna eat all this we're like yeah watch this shit yeah well yeah like you never seen 150 with a taco bell wow buckle up um and yeah we killed it so shout out everybody in the house and also just the uniting power and everyone just had stories like one woman i know she was saying she she owns taco bells or like yum brand stock because like ever since she was a child she's been obsessed with taco bell and like in a school econ project like in like high school they had to buy like a couple dollars worth of stock in the stock market when people diversified she bought all taco bell and she's still holding on to that little bit of stock she's like yeah i got my shares there you go and

you know people all had different stories like that so shout out to fast food completely destroying our brains yes um all right my underrated is the model of human psychology in the movie elemental oh so you go low brow with yours i do a little high brow you do a little low brow okay okay yeah yeah exactly i'm not i'm not on the taco bell level i'm on the children's movie psychology um the new pixar movie is finally on disney plus it's fine but they have this thing in there that like i've thought about a lot uh in like as i've gotten older that and i think is like truer and truer of me which is so the main character keeps losing her temper on that so she she's like set to inherit her father's shop she keeps losing her temper on the customers and it's treated like a thing for her to overcome but then uh her love interest who is water um she's far uh is like when

i lose my temper it's usually just like something to the effect of like my inner self telling me something i'm not ready to hear um and she doesn't like unlock it right then but she keeps like fighting against this belief that she should and you know or fighting to like sustain this belief um and i i don't like this idea of human psychology, whether it be like your temper or like self-sabotage, like people talk a lot about self-sabotage and when people talk about self-sabotaging, they always side with the person who's being sabotaged. But the saboteur is trying to tell you something in my experience. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. When you're that people, you mean people side with the person themselves rather than their instinct to sabotage themselves? Yeah. And like, I feel like in my life, like the saboteur is trying to tell me like at various times,

Oh, this career that you're trying to force your way down is actually not the right one or you know that relationship doesn't work for you or you know like i was experiencing a lot of social anxiety around like certain people and i would you know try and figure out like how do i not experience as much social anxiety and like for a long long time, it was like, well, I just drink to get around it. But right. You know, ultimately as I've gotten older and like been in therapy for a while,

I feel like the thing that was just my, my social anxiety was not like a bug. It was like trying to tell me like, maybe these aren't the people that you fuck with, you know, like maybe this is just like, you don't feel great around you fuck with you know like maybe this is just like you don't feel great around these people because there's like something about them that you're like not super into that we're not vibing with like sure that statement of like there's that

cliche like we contain multitudes right i think that that's truer and truer, but we only have access to a small number of them with our conscious mind. And so they will act out on us through things we seemingly do by accident or things that come out through our temper or just gut feelings or something like that. You know what I mean? So I don't know i'm realizing i need to unlearn like some concepts and just like listen to myself you know right right right because yeah some that's sort of like the last ditch effort of your subconscious being like fuck you do i need to fuck this up for you yeah for us to like move on yeah this is like yeah of having that level of self-awareness to say like, have I,

I felt this way a lot too, where I had such a singular focus that I was like, I need to be on SNL. And like, that's the only thing I could do. And that led me to a lot of fucking bad places. Like just more like emotionally and how like i had such a rigid sort of concept of what my future could be or should be that it was at the expense of recognizing all these other

things that i liked to do and yeah like i know that yeah i it took a moment it never manifested to me sabotaging anything necessarily but there was a lot of like it just felt like it was a slog to do certain things or i felt like i'm like this isn't fucking flowing right but part of my mind was like it's because you don't want it hard enough right and i was like yeah wait i might not actually just want this i think it's because i was since i was a child i was told i was funny over and over and in the 90s people were like you're gonna be on in living color do you want to be on snl and then you take that shit with you and then you have you completely sort of abandon any other possibility for yourself yeah you just try and force it yeah yeah yeah yeah like sometimes i personally need to listen to what i know i could get on snl easily yeah it's super easy and only has to do with how funny you

are and nothing to do with luck or who you know um whether you're like a second generation like literally like your dad was a writer on snl your dad's tim hurley yeah but sometimes i do feel like i just like need to listen to what my own actions are telling me uh what i want instead of like what i want to want yeah yeah and i'm i i realized all of this because of Elemental. Shout out Elemental. No, it was kind of like a deep point. It's a pretty mediocre Pixar movie compared to other Pixar movies. Right, right, right.

I thought it was a pretty interesting idea, like psychological concept that was kind of buried in there. So good on you. And what, did your kids have the same takeaway too? Were they like, do. They were like, interesting.

This says some interesting things about self-sabotage. Know yourself. Embrace yourself. What's, what's something you think is overrated? Couple of things. First off is the fucking obsession with Taylor Swift, dating this Elsie guy or Kels or whatever.

Yeah. Uh, I just like, I, I was fucking inundated with coverage about it online last night. And this morning they, they walked away holding hands. He's got this outfit.

He wore is now named after tail. They drove off in a convertible there are so many fucking she's with his mom in the box but remember she also met tom hiddleston's mom and we know where that went and fucking it was just it was just too much i i'll you know shout out to her be happy i hope y'all are happy like it's because there's nothing to it's like taylor's out there being like y'all need to report on this it's just our culture like having this focus on it it just felt so i don't know at a certain point i'm like this is corny like this feels like an early 90s rom-com about like the superstar who's secretly dating the

football player and then like the third act climax is her finally being at the game and I was like, ah! And so to me, I was like, this is just so boring. It's also interesting to think about in the context of the stuff we've said with regards to her being a religious figure and these artists

being religious figures. If suddenly people are like, oh, the Virgin Mary is dating yeah uh drunk they're like yo they're like yo jesus that for her jesus out here uh canoodling with mary magna doodle out here whoa wow what's good y'all um so anyway like just it's not like again i i always want people to be happy get what you get what you want uh but the coverage of it just like i just couldn't believe how many hey bill belichick what do you think and i was like this is so fucking annoying like i'm sure

and he was even like it's good the best catch of his career right there. No. Yes, dude. Belichick said that some shit like that was the headline. I didn't even bother because I was like, I can't believe everyone is trying to make, find an angle in with this. Like whether it's about the car or the restaurant or bill Belichick or

whatever. Belichick would be the funniest person I can imagine to like, do try to try to conduct a like right turn of like at this late stage of his career into like tmz cultural commentator he's like on the panel shows where he's like that's a great catch uh all football metaphors apparently belichick is a swifty himself wow so y'all don't you can get touched out here okay that's just that's the key and so the other thing i also so aside from that the other thing i want to say was i just read that alicia keys is starting a fucking herbal tea line called alicia tees yeah this is so stupid to me this is i can't i don't why just because it rhymes i don't think i don't like this doesn't seem like a thing where you're like oh yeah okay

interesting interesting um and i just again like celebrities are trying to be like branding themselves like i'm gonna sell fucking tea alicia come on alicia t congratulations alicia t's it sounds like a joke we would say offhandedly on this show like a bad one that we'd be like brian cut that yeah yeah actually cut that out yeah yeah no no don't i don't want anybody thinking that i actually think that shit i loved yeah my overrated so i guess i have a question of it do you was the movie big for you important to you what's the name josh baskin josh baskin josh baskin has a problem dude i fucked that movie fucking exploded my head yeah as a kid yeah 100 i love it we had it on vhs i probably watched it like 300 times from the ages of 8 to 10 and then like hadn't watched it again until i just watched it this weekend with my kid

isn't isn't i haven't seen it in maybe 10 or 15 years but isn't the the relationship's a little bit weird isn't it yeah what you mean the one where he's a child in an adult's body and he has a romantic relationship with a grown woman yeah yeah that one okay yeah that part i was like i remember seeing it like 10 or 15 years ago being like that's actually kind of weird yeah aka problematic but anyway yeah go on so you're watching it so i i can't believe how much i i remember like everything from like editing like i was like oh here's the part coming up where like this guy's about to hit the hammer on the strength test and you're gonna hear the bell

but they're gonna cut away from the bell before you hear it and they're cutting away to the roller coaster at the car like i remembered yeah that whole sequence everything yeah like just little details of character performance like it was crazy it was like being i remember like the food they were or like they were eating takeout from yes yeah like he he got paid 187 dollars 187 dot like his read of that line is like it's not that it was like oh i remember this it was like oh this was always in my mind just under the surface right um the one thing that i hadn't remembered uh is elizabeth perkins the love interest in that movie who's dating a what is she like what is he like 12 year old something in a in an adult's body uh she's 28 in that movie okay she and like it just made me character is 28 i don't know if the character's

28 that's how old she is oh and she's giving the performance of like an aspiring society lady it just made me realize like there was weird things happening with age in the 80s like where everybody wanted to look older like everybody wanted to like be an adult like that was right the movie's really about like i i think i overrated how much it was a kids movie right it's it's really a movie like about observations about adult life and how weird adults are. Right, right, right. And how someone's got to just embrace that inner child.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't know. It's crazy. Like, what if kid was an adult is also, that's also the premise of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, which was a movie night movie like a couple weeks ago um and yeah there was something going on in like the late 80s where everyone was like kid adult kid like they were just having a real tough time with right the concept of growing up

they're just like yeah it's either it's just a binary it's like you're you're a child and then you become 45 years old yeah that's it there's no we don't know what an in-between is unless it's some freaky machine fortune-telling machine that did that to you the other thing was i remember the fucking way i begged my fucking parents to take me to fao schwartz to hop on that gigantic piano yeah um and i remember there was one in san francisco and like they fucking had it roped off like you couldn't even do shit yeah um and i remember there was one in san francisco and like they fucking had it roped off like you couldn't even do shit on it and i remember that became like the thing that every fao schwartz on earth had to have the big ass piano from big that you could

play chopsticks on yeah and just like it was like dark and covered in sneaker tread um yeah some some were used others were like don't even fucking think about desecrating this sacred monument yeah but anyway yeah that movie lives forever so yeah i don't know i guess my overrated is how how much uh that movie is a kid's movie uh how old everyone my i think i was overrating everyone's age in the 80s um prior to this you know yeah in my mind she was like in her late 30s yeah like the energy was someone who's like i've done it all like now i'm just trying to focus on like my job and my career yeah my parents were like in their mid-30s anyways uh all right those are some things we think is overrated, underrated.

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All the stuff that the studios and streamers were like, non-starter. That's impossible. This is coming at the worst time for us. The worst time for us. Record profits. record profits. Record profits. We can't afford to give you the basic protections and requests that your earnings go up with the record skyrocketing revenue. Yeah.

so it's i the the way it was announced i feel hopeful that this i hope that it is a group of actual good deal for the writers because like the way they're saying like what we have won and this is this is a direct quote from the wga well we have won in this contract most particularly everything we have gained since may 2nd is due to the willingness of this membership to exercise its power to demonstrate its solidarity to walk walk side by side, to endure the pain and uncertainty of the past 146 days. It is the leverage generated by your strike in concert with the extraordinary support of our union siblings that finally brought the companies back to the table to make a deal.

We can say with great pride that this deal is exceptional with meaningful gains and protections for writers in every sector of the membership i mean i you know a lot of times when you see these back and forths you get this and then you see the deal and then there's i mean it's nothing's ever going to be perfect but the language and it helped makes me pretty hopeful that they did make a great deal especially now like i felt like last week with ted Sarandos, what is his name? Sarandon Sarandos. Yeah. Sarandos from Netflix and Bob Iger now have like literally coming to the table to fucking

figure this shit out. I was like, oh yeah, yeah, this, this is serious now. Um, but yeah, good for them. And also they said they, until they're still going to be, you know, they're still not working. And I think that they're still picketing until, you know, the rank and file membership ratifies the agreement and votes on it. But they also said they will not go back to work until SAG-AFTRA also gets theirs, too. So the solidarity continues. Wow.

Yeah, which is great to see. And hey, turns out striking works. Almost like striking works and unions actually get you the thing that you need to protect a job from going away. Love it. Yeah. Love a bit of worker power. Love to see it. And also, like I know in California, there was a bill that the state senate passed that

basically would extend unemployment benefits to striking workers yeah so that's also a huge tool uh for workers to you know exercise their power because they don't have to rely on like or have the you know the whole thing of like what do i do money wise if i'm striking for my own rights don't we think friends would have been better if it was written by people who were part-time gig economy workers? That's the question. I think we can all agree. I could get Bing AI chat to give me a synopsis of an episode of that, which I will tell you after the break. of that um which i will tell you after the break yeah but when companies like tell us they absolutely need every penny that they hold out on it turns out they're lying uh they can always they can

always make it work if you force them to and the only way that i've seen that seems to work uh forcing companies to cut the bullshit is collective power. So shout out to them. Yeah. All right. There's a, there's a new poll that finds Trump winning by 10 points and it's, I don't know.

So this is a ABC Washington post poll. It says Trump is ahead of Biden by 10 points, 52%%, 42%. Obviously, that's going to make people panic. It is starkly different than other polls, which placed them

wrinkly neck and wrinkly neck. We just got an NBC poll that found them both tied at 46%. Some outlets are calling the Post-ABC poll a shock. just got an NBC poll that found them both tied at 46%. And some outlets are calling the post-ABC poll a shock, which is weird because the same poll,

they use the same collection methods found back in May, Trump at 49 and Biden at 42. And at that time, everyone was like, yeah, so it's just like a weird outlier. It doesn't doesn't mean shit but now we're getting closer i think people are more willing to panic a little bit um you know there's been more biden too old stories um so and i i'm panicking just a little bit because Trump doesn't tend to underperform his polling.

He actually tends to intellectual politics like in presidential elections up to this point. He has overperformed his polling. So I don't know. It's granted like we haven't seen him run since the Republicans, uh, you know, attacked human rights and repealed Roe v. Wade,

but he has been willing to soften his stance on that. And we've seen before that Trump. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I just, it makes me nervous. It's a,

it's a deep, dark abyss that we stand on the precipice of uh the the possibility of him running and winning um but and the outlier polls are like trump's up by 10 are there outlier polls that are like biden is up by 10 no we're just not seeing no i haven't seen that i've not yeah i haven't seen that i've heard the most the normal or like the majority of them that i've seen are just like he has like a slight it's basically an advantage within the margin of error yeah um but i don't know i mean i part of me like when i you know just watching the ebb and flow of articles like going from like biden's too old i felt like there was then this push from the establishment where I saw a lot of articles that were just like, like Trump is like, it's we cannot fucking lose to Trump.

OK, and if he if he wins, it's over for this group. If he wins, it's over for this. And I believe that, you know, Trump is going to just make things absolutely worse but then i'm like we always talk about how trump has been like this gift to the democrats because they don't have to advance their policy agenda in any way they can just go they can just rely on this guy can't fucking win yeah and that's the best thing for the status quo if the election is merely about this guy can't win and it's not about a housing crisis it's not about like income inequality and worker rights and shit like that and it just becomes this guy can't win it's like a gift uh to the establishment

so part of me also too is like this also also helps further an argument against trying to find someone else to run and they can just rely on well i mean biden's done it before he's done it before and he may not be perfect but he's done it before and as we just said earlier trump cannot win and i know there are other things going on but trump cannot win and i think centering that um yeah again it just makes it just sort of helps uh the chances for biden to just for everyone just be like fuck all right it's like dig in on the current course because they're too scared they're like well you know i can't i couldn't imagine like and i know like there you see you hear more and more people saying like oh i mean like you got to consider what these polls say when even democrats are like

we'd prefer someone else to run yeah um i don't know it's just it's it's but i i just can't like i feel like if there was a real appetite to find to to uh find a different candidate to run that would have happened a long time ago. Right. And so I just feel like the advantage is to the staff for the establishment is Biden runs again because he's not going to rock the boat. And they can just rely on this. Like Trump is so dangerous narrative to sort of ignore all the other really big issues that we have aside from the major fucking catastrophe threat, et looms over another trump administration yeah all right uh let's talk senator bob menendez oh yeah he's been indicted over a bribery scheme this is this has been simmering for a while about what was going to happen with Senator Bob Hernandez.

And he was indicted, okay? LLP world excited, as we say here. In this influence scheme where the senator used his power and fucking reputation to make some businessmen very rich while also helping the egyptian government and you know the senator also apparently allegedly got some gifts too they say this is from the report from the nbc quote the charges include conspiracy to commit bribery conspiracy to commit honest services fraud and conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right what a fancy term wow um the bribes the couple received this is bob menendez and his uh spouse uh included cash gold bars payments toward a home mortgage compensation for a low or no show job a luxury vehicle and other items of value when they did uh when they

like uh you know did a search or you know searched his home last year, they found over $480,000 in cash for him. Wow. And then his wife had like 70 grand in cash in a fucking safe deposit box. But like gold bars. Stuffed into envelopes and hidden in clothing closets and a safe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Jack, those are details that i feel like just make bob menendez look more guilty and i i want to be like the other big dem old school democrats who have just

been like what do you think this is bad honda like oh he bob's gonna have to really think hard about the cloud this is gonna put over his service should he resign oh i think it's too early to say something like that right john federman is the only senator that has called for his resignation um alexandria ocasio-cortez also and a few others in the house have but otherwise there's a lot of fucking mumbling going on on the democrat side uh just half i mean again if true but it seems like this is, I don't know if this is mistaken gold bars that he received for some other shit. Yeah. This fucking, he's dirty.

The fuck are you? You tell me you don't have a couple gold bars laying around your house. Come on. I wish I had a fucking couple gold bars laying around. And then maybe I should be a fucking senator so I could know the feeling of holding gold ingots in my fucking crusty little hands. But I mean, like, it's just what Menendez himself so far. I know he's giving a press conference later today. He said, I'm going nowhere.

OK, wow. And but he did. He got he did get a show of support from another upstanding member of congress george santos who's like we gotta just let your process play out what happened to presumption of innocence here wow you know are we just gonna read who you want exactly right yeah 100 so i'm like i thought being bad i thought getting indicted is bad democrats because when it was trump y'all were like this is fucking terrible yeah reminds me of the fact that uh lauren bobert and the guy she was given the overpants handjob to were both like bar owners and like he you know he was a democrat and she was a republican but like the solidarity is with your fellow you know what whatever the like

the people who have the same career and income level as you that's who you are like not with their political beliefs yeah that stuff's all flexible it'd be like that meme from uh predator you know you son of a bitch yeah and they do like the two sides it's like democrats republicans and the hand coming together is their horniness yes um as we saw there but apparently they've been dating for months and she's trying to be like we i had no idea this looks like i need to just take a better look at the political beliefs of the people i date on dating apps. So we will watch. We'll watch along as the Democrats continue to, you know, also exercise these baffling amounts of hypocrisy. Yeah. All right.

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That's so mean. It's not even like scathing artsy shit. Just be like, it's the opposite of a must-see. An embarrassment for all involved is so fucked up. So mean. But yeah, go off. off go off film critics yeah so uh shockingly it did not do well at the box office it made just 8.3 million dollars over the weekend with a budget of 100 around 100 million dollars um so and this was the worst weekend at the box office so far this year.

I wonder if that had anything to do with suddenly the studios being like, we got to get a deal here, folks. This is looking bleak. But I feel like all I needed to know about how this movie was going to be received was you can go to the Expendables character Wikipedia page, how this movie was going to be received was like, you, you can go to the expendables character, Wikipedia page, and it has a chart with like who is in each film.

And you got your Jason Statham, Sly Stallone, Dolph Lundgren, Randy Couture are all, are in all four. That's it. Jet Li got off the bus after three. Terry Jet Li got off the bus after three. Terry Crews got off the bus

after three. Arnold Schwarzenegger got off the bus after three. He was in the first three and he bailed. For Expendables 3, they brought in Wesley Snipes. They brought in Ronda Rousey, Antonio Banderas.

They were covering all the quadrants for that one. This time to replace Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jet Li in a movie about iconic action heroes. They brought in 50 Cent and Megan Fox. Yeah. I mean, they did replace. Yeah, I'll give Tony Jaws cool. I like Tony Jaws back of martial arts shit, but wow. 50 and Megan Fox.

Yeah. And I heard also that Sylvester Stallone is barely in this one. And he's like the reason this shit even happened. Like he's the co-creator of this. He directed the first one. Yeah. And like wrote, I think the first three or co-wrote or had a hand in writing in them and then this one apparently he was like nah don't want to do the fourth one

it's an embarrassment for everybody don't i got rights i don't know project like dolph was was driving the bus yeah oh no yeah but i mean i guess it'll make its money outside of the u.s that's like where they mostly they've been making a lot of it made 80 of its money outside of north america last time around so they're hoping for a similar uh turn of events here but it does it seems to be kind of pretty pretty soggy everywhere i just feel like yeah it's also just such a bad time for us to be celebrating elderly people with too much power yeah right it's just like yeah what a weird message thematically we're we're not really feeling this right now yeah so i can i also see that aspect of like i don't give a fuck about dolph lundgren and fucking sylvette jason's what the

fuck no yeah it's like space cowboys if it was a action movie like that that that's the premise it's like old people like have rights too and they can still do stuff as like old people are about to like drive the country over the edge of a cliff right and it's all like all old white guys mostly too yeah dude please please fucking did you see that one with like what was the one about the women who were like all into tom brady with like lily tomlin and jane fonda and shit 80 for brady yeah yeah yeah yeah but i mean like was that like hollywood's best shit like was that them being like what if we did the expendables but with women yeah i think probably yeah and we're gonna do this really fucking narrow read on like i don't know it's like fucking heteronormative thing like

but they all fuck with tom brady like that's their fucking mutual, their unifying call. But yeah, I don't know. Space Cowboys was pretty bad and also way too long. I remember that shit was over two hours. I never saw Space Cowboys. I was never into the idea of being told a story about people who were too old for this shit. I was good at Lethal Weapon old for this shit. I was, I was good at lethal weapon.

Like that, that was plenty. I loved demand. Big James Garner fan, big Jim Garner fan, big Tommy Lee Jones fan. I do love Tommy Lee Jones. I think I have the same birthday as Tommy Lee Jones,

which is why I think I watched it. That's the kind of one dimensional loyalty I have to people. You, you have the same birthday as Tommymmy lee jones yeah you harry and we're all born on the exact same day september 15th 1946 wow and we look great doing it that's right uh and finally we have a new clarence thomas scandal uh this one involving the coke brothers and ken burns dude that picture is so funny yeah i didn't know it was ken burns at first i was like who the fuck is this like wannabe luke skywalker bowl cut looking dude

his haircut is truly wild and like always dark and like he's he's always dying it and it's always just it if he doesn't have a wig it is the most wig looking hairdo that i've ever seen on a human head but yeah yeah yeah it is it has wig swag for sure yeah but yeah i i just love how it suddenly i remember one of the first articles i saw it didn't name him in the photo and i was like who the fuck is this guy yeah and then i then i then i saw another one that was like it's ken burns and i'm like this is fucking so stupid but he's like i don't know them i don't like just in that picture uh that i didn't even know the picture i was just walking by and my arms got stuck on their backs uh somehow yeah um yeah so it's a you know this is a pro-publica report uh and it detailed

thomas's relationship so exactly uh they've got an axe to grind that's all i'm saying uh but it details clarence thomas's close relationship with the coke brothers which included speaking at their donor events um none of which was disclosed. So that's an obvious violation of federal ethics laws. But the images for the article has Thomas, David Koch, and then in between them, you know,

like you said, no, I feel like Ken Burns is not a household face. He's a household name. Yeah. And maybe a household hairdo if you've ever seen him, cause you can't forget his hair. But yeah, so Ken Burns started trending on social media and he was forced to issue a

statement distancing himself as much as humanly possible, uh, from Thomas and Coke. And he claimed that he only met Thomas when taking that photo and only knew Coke because he was a supporter of public television um which what an interesting fucking description yeah he's just a guy just loves public tv oh wait he does other stuff what oh i don't know i've never heard of the other i just know him as a great patron of the arts i was too busy researching baseball and jazz. So that didn't,

didn't come up to be fair. So, but that, that support for public television does not extend to documentaries about the Koch brothers. They allegedly killed a deal between public television backers and the documentary citizen Coke back in 2013 yeah the documentary showed at the wisconsin film festival in april and then immediately

it was announced that public television backers were pulling their funding because uh who knows why yeah it's impossible to say but just a great example of the sort of NPR neoliberalism and the problems inherent in it that they expect capitalism to fix the problems of capitalism. Yeah. I like you did a little bit of Cockney there. But the problems inherent in it. In it. I've been watching too much Top Boy. in it in it um i've been watching too much top boy it's just again we have a fucking sitting supreme court justice who is the like fundraiser headliner for these fucking fucking goblin people

and the coke brothers yeah and then they're the ones seeing fucking over like they're presiding over the cases that directly relate to these people. It's just, I don't know. But Trump can't win. But that's the important thing. Focus on that, guys. That's it. That's one issue, and it's Trump can't win. We'll get to the other stuff once he's out of the way.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats invested in technology to keep Trump alive forever. Just be like, like oh he's running into 2028 you already know 2032 2036 but we are at the you know in the midst maybe i shouldn't say at the end but we're in the midst of the longest run of very positive legislation and supreme court findings for the extremely wealthy um yeah you wouldn't know it because of like astroturfed bullshit like you know the tea party and uh you know libertarians and uh you know people like that but they have had the they've paid the least taxes that they've ever paid because of shit like this, just like

very strategic relationships with the people who are ultimately making the decisions. And then, you know, the, those decisions have ripple effects where they make it harder to regulate the billionaires. And then the billionaires use the lack of legislation and regulation to then influence more decisions until we have this out of control uh crazy system that we have right now we need ethics reform folks uh we gotta really sort out the supreme court but i don't know it's like the way alito talks he's like yeah come for me let's see what the fuck happened yeah this idea that like you can have like your the strategy for the left side can be well if we just get this big donation from the coke brothers we can continue doing journalism that is broadly critical of the system that gives the coke brothers immense power

and it just ends up just being liberal at a surface level without the ability to even can't even have the courage of your convictions to put out a documentary that is critical of the Nazi oil billionaires. Well, I mean, they're allowing us to do really great stuff about baseball.

So you gotta take the good with the bad. Alright. Well, those are some of the things that happened over so we gotta you gotta take the good with the bad gotta take it good with the bad all right well those are some of the things that happened over the weekend we are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show a banger to tell you what is trending tomorrow uh it will be a banger a banger main thank you bang wars and matt until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine Don't do nothing about white supremacy. No. And

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