The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendbenyama From The Logo! 5/19: San Diego Mosque Shooting, AI Graduation, RIPB Mark Furman, WHO
Episode Date: May 19, 2026In this edition of Trendbenyama From The Logo!, Jack and Miles discuss the San Diego mosque shooting, another AI-tinged graduation, the long overdue passing of Mark Furman, the WHO declaring something... but who cares THIS IS AMERICA and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I don't like it, man. I don't like it. This guy. You don't mean. You love it.
I do. I love it so much.
We've been waiting.
We've been, what is, so what?
It's happening, Miles.
It's happening.
The Boosysbury was year three.
Year three, he'll come to life.
Wemby.
Oh, yeah.
We felt like maybe, yeah, the first one's like,
I think that's what,
I was like, he's gonna be great right away.
He was really good.
He was really good right away,
then got really good last year,
and now he's.
And then got a blood clot.
Blood clot.
Blood clot.
But then he was missing with a shower.
in monks and now he's
fully on it. Yeah.
For people who aren't watching,
you have to watch
Victor Wembe Nama play basketball right now.
7'6 guy pulling up
from the logo to tie the game.
He's playing incredible basketball right now.
He's playing like a creative player does
in a video game. We're like,
you just maxed out all the stats.
Like you just made him,
it's funny to see him just,
like, no one can handle him in the post
with just like a loose ball or something.
It just feels like a bunch of kids trying to play with their uncle.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, come on, Victor.
Oh, yeah, they just throw it up and he just like kind of guides it in.
There's, he's doing things that are like new wrinkles in basketball.
Yeah.
But yeah, he, for people who aren't familiar, he's going against the Oklahoma City Thunder,
the Israel of basketball.
Did you see that?
Who put that?
The Oklahoman had an op-ed that said,
the Oklahoma City Thunder
are the Israel of basketball.
What the fuck?
Previously an underdog
suddenly very unpopular.
And I think that's where the similarities
ended, but they,
they put their chest into it.
It went up.
It went,
it was like watching somebody dive into a cold
pool of water. It went up and immediately
came out.
Came right down.
Wow.
And,
but yeah,
the website,
awful announcement,
the website awful announcing caught it.
so you can go to awful announcing to check it up.
But anyways, the team, Oklahoma City Thunder are like a generationally great team.
They hadn't lost yet in the playoffs.
They just swept their first two opponents.
And then they're going against Victor Wambayama.
And he just single-handedly, like, kept his team in it and won the game for them.
It's really...
In overtime.
Yeah.
For people who used to listen to our NBA podcast, like, my thing is always like, rooting for the best
player in the league who seems like they're going to take things to a new level and do things we've
never seen before. That's why I was always a Jordan guy and a LeBron guy. And now I think the third
coming is upon us. Yeah. It's, it's cool, man. It's so fun to watch. It's pretty cool, man.
As somebody who was on the receiving end of one of those very casual sweeps as a Laker fan,
it's nice to see Chad Holmgren really struggle against Wembeon. Oh, yeah, the casual sweeps from the Oklahoma
City Thunder.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we were swept aside, like, dust.
And as we should be, like, we're not even close.
But I may still win this series, but it was.
They could, but it was, I think it was humbling definitely for like,
Chad Holmberg, because suddenly he was like, I was going against Yondre 8.
This is, this guy's like, tall too.
Freaking me out, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
But this is no longer Miles and Jack got Matt Boosties.
No, because it's a, ain't it for you might now.
It's time to get in, talk about the football,
my Arsenal just won, one nil against
Burnley, yeah, just one more match.
I feel like we might end up talking about that tomorrow
on our full episode
when one of your ain't a putty
co-hosts.
Yes. That joins us. But congratulations
to you also.
We haven't done anything. Jobs not finished, as
Kobe says. Job's not finished.
We haven't done anything. We haven't won't.
Job not finished.
Okay. Let's talk about the San Diego
Mosque shooting. The hurtling changes of
transition. Yeah.
The, yeah, we don't, the details are scant and trickling in.
And one of the shooters was under age, you know, was not 18.
So one was 17.
Some were saying the other one is 18 or 19.
It's still, it's still murky.
But what we do know is that two teenagers walked into the Islamic Center of San Diego,
which also houses a school, like a kindergarten through third grade school with like something like 200 students.
and killed three people before taking their own lives.
And one of the killers left behind some kind of note alluding to racial pride,
which isn't surprising given that this was clearly a hate crime.
And then the victims, one was the security guard who was beloved by this community
and two other congregants.
And, you know, the guard was being praised for, you know, his heroism that many felt like
he prevented these two people for.
from fully unleashing like a full-blown massacre on top of the tragedy that I'd already unfolded.
And yeah, just fucking more grim shit that, you know, I think for a lot of people who've just been looking at the rhetoric in the country,
this this feels like a thing that's just only been increasing, especially post-October 7th where like the media and mainstream politicians clearly decided who was human and who was not and who to talk about it.
as if they're human and who to talk about as if they're just,
they are like less than zero.
Yeah.
And you look at the city that these kids are in and the rhetoric of their own mayor,
Todd Gloria,
and he has made it very clear that he does not see Palestinians as people that are
worthy of human dignity.
Like,
and this has been very clear in his constant condemnation of whether it's like pro-Palestinian
organizers,
organizations,
students,
supporters,
protesters,
attending any kind of event
that was about, you know,
visibility or dignity for Palestinian people.
Yeah, he went to completely
other way. Like, because where you will see
him will be at like, ribbon cutting
ceremonies for facilities named after
like controversial Israeli figures.
Like a guy who's like a mayor
on occupied Palestinian
land, like naming a community center after this person.
And he's there like the ribbon cutting ceremony.
Right. Or like, canceling his support
of like a pride celebration because
Kalani, one of the artists who was headlining
was pro-Palestin. It was like, well, I'm not
no. We revoke our support for this event.
And then also, too, the
mayor, like, and the
city council, even one of the Jewish members on the city
council was like, I don't know, this is actually
not a good idea. He adopted the
International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's
working definition of anti-Semitism,
which is basically saying
criticism of Israel
and Zionism is anti-Semitism.
So, again, yeah, this is, this is, this is a party line.
Yeah, right, right.
But that party line is vile and dehumanizing, you know.
Yeah, 100% when it's like people are there to be like, hey, man, these people, these are
human beings, we need to stop the genocide.
And he's like, oh my gosh, I can't handle this hate speech.
And you're calling that hate speech.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the upside down.
And when he went out to give, you know, speak at the press conference right in the wake of the
shooting, like with, you know, members of the Muslim community behind him, he was rightly heckled
by somebody who was like, take a look at your own fucking rhetoric, dude, like, and the way
you talk about people and like the way who you are willing to extend the definition of
humanity to.
So this is the mayor, Todd Gloria, right before he's about to speak.
And then the, this, this, this right resident just lets him have it.
Thank you.
Your fucking direct results.
Your leadership.
Your leadership.
Our Muslim mothers and sisters have been talking to you for I listened to them, Todd.
Just like you did the night.
There's a pro-it-hump hate-me.
And you'll keep doing it as long as it lines a fucking pocket.
You'll just, this person said, like, you're emboldening Zionist propaganda,
and you'll do it as long as it lines your pockets and keeps you in office.
Approval rating that a fascist dictator would shit in his hands.
shit with it's been he just gross he has like nothing to say right you know like on some level
you feel like some people who have like really intellectually made their peace with like going that far
field would have some kind of like ability to be like oh you know right yeah the things are
obviously heightened but this guy just i don't know if it was the line about having lower approval
ratings than a fascist was shit in his pants with his shit in his pants
With his shit.
I think that was what did it.
Yeah.
He's like,
fuck.
It wasn't all the other shit before that.
Got my ass.
He just groans and it's just like fucked up.
Like there are people like in tears behind him too.
As he's going to say some boilerplate nonsense about how like, you know,
we stand against this kind of hate in our community.
Yet you 100% have just been looking the other way while genocide is being committed.
But sure.
Right.
I think that's the madness of.
this post-October 7th world that we're in,
that has just seen, again, like,
the mainstream media and politicians' working definition of anti-Semitism
to be anything that is critical of Israel.
And this is something that many Jewish activists warned us about early on
when this was like the main rhetorical defense against,
when people were being like,
what is going on with Gaza right now?
They are just killing civilians nonstop.
There's nothing, none of this looks like defensive action.
Right.
And people were saying, conflating Zionism with the entire religion of Judaism is going to breed more anti-Semitism.
And you can see it on the right now.
We're like propagandists and a lot of the right-wing pundits concerned, quote unquote, concerned with Gaza are just merely expressing their concern because it gives them a rational entry point to be against Israel.
Like I don't see these people's pro-Palestian, like these sort of like the Nick Fuentes types or Tucker Carlson.
You don't see him as being a freedom fighter.
No, no, I don't see it being pro-Palestinians.
They are merely anti-Semites who have found just like sort of a humane rhetorical cover
to sort of like join other outraged people of like good moral standing.
Right.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's a very valid point that the thing, you know, conflating, I think a lot of the focus
goes towards conflating criticism of Israeli policy and, you know, actions with anti-Semitism.
but it's the dehumanization of an entire population, entire, yeah.
When people are like, oh, we're here to like stand with Palestinian people and then the mayor of the city is like,
nah, no, that's terrible.
Then I can't be there.
I can't be seen at the at the ceremony.
Yeah.
And like not even just, just merely being like, no, that's not worried.
I can't, like, in good conscience, can't stand with these people who are terrorist sympathizers or whatever nonsense.
he's spewing.
Yeah, it's just a fuck.
It's so fucking sad.
That guy.
That one crossing guard, that was,
Laura Sarsour was on democracy now and she was,
she knows like some of the people who work at this Islamic center.
And they were saying how like this security guard who was killed was like,
like one of the first faces all these kids see when they get to the school.
And yet this guy was a father of eight children himself.
Jesus.
And yeah,
it's just fucking tragic.
And I'm curious if we're going to see the same level.
of condemnation over Islamophobia as we do,
with other sort of, you know,
kinds of acts of hate.
Yeah.
Probably not in the United States.
Probably not.
There's a big policy issue with pushing back against
Islamophobia and that specific brand of hate.
Sure.
It seems like.
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And we're back.
We're back.
And AI is having a tough week.
I feel like AI should just, I think we just.
Go to bed AI.
Right.
Just be like,
hey,
we're gonna take a,
take a year
to think about
where we're at
in terms of like
public,
public appearances.
Do like Drake.
You know what I mean?
Go away for two years.
Yeah, go away for two years
and drop three albums on us.
Yeah.
Three albums of bullshit.
Three albums of bullshit
that you apparently stole from people.
So he,
he being AI,
is,
once again,
they just cannot resist.
the idea of getting AI involved in these graduations?
One way or another, we're going to have people talk to you.
Like I heard Eric Schmidt's graduation speech described as a long Gemini commercial.
That like literally felt like what it was.
By one of the graduating seniors, it was like, what the fuck?
Why does this sound like literally I'm hearing a 30 minute YouTube video about how Gemini's the future?
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense maybe why they want to be at these graduations because they were talking about it on Fox News this morning about how, you know, people are like, oh man, Gen Z and like younger people are real angry at AI.
So I bet they're like, you got to get in front of these kids, man, and tell them it's cool, like right before they enter the workforce.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was like one of the people that was on, like Harris Faulkner's like reading these like polling like results.
and this guy Ben Ferguson was on.
He said, yeah, get on board or get run over.
And I would just love to take another poll.
How many of the people that were booing at the commencement ceremony have AI apps on their phone?
Better question, how many of them used AI to pass their test?
How many of them used AI to write one of their book reports?
Book reports or to do one of their thesis statements?
Why don't you go do me a little thesis statement there, smart guy?
Oh, hell yeah.
All right, academia.
Mark my word.
They're all hypocrites out there.
I don't know, a single college kid that doesn't need it.
Like, okay, maybe, but that doesn't mean that they're pumped up for the fucking whatever the, whatever the AI gospel.
Yeah.
The preachers of the AI gospel are saying, which is get fucked or get in or get fucked.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was another guy who, like a record producer, Scott Borsheda, who is the, he's like the CEO of Big Machine Records Records.
And he said, AI is rewriting production as we sit here, started getting booed.
He said, I know it.
Deal with it.
Do something about it.
It's a tool.
Make it work for you.
And then I think he said, but he had this other Scott Borsheta.
Borsheta, baby.
It's like a fucking arrested development character name.
Streaming, rewrote the economics.
Social media.
rewrote the discovery model.
AI is
rewriting production as we sit here.
I know it. Deal with it.
Like I said, it's a tool.
Like I said.
Hey, like I said,
you can hear me now or you can pay me later.
Hey, big shit eating grin after that line.
Then do something about it.
Okay, it's a tool.
Make it work for you.
Then do so about it.
Yeah, fucking pay it in the...
rib now.
Or how about pay me now and pay me later, huh?
Pay me now, pay me later, and then beg me for a job.
And then I'll beg you to come back to the job that I destroyed with AI.
And then just please, just please be cool with AI guys.
Guys, I really need this to pay me a lot of money.
But it's not just getting speakers out there.
They also had an AI demo built into the,
into a graduation ceremony.
Yeah, yeah.
It's really sad.
So this,
okay, so this time,
it wasn't because some AI stockholder
was up there extolling the virtues of AI.
This time the faculty at an Arizona community college
decided to outsource the reading of graduate names
to AI rather than a person.
And it led to a few delays
and a huge portion of the class,
not even having their names read,
because the fucking AI just fucked up and was like, I don't know.
Is that a thing?
I'm sorry.
This is when it got real because one of the heads of the school had to come in and be like,
hey, guys, sorry, here's the delay here.
I know like half of you haven't heard your name call.
It's because of AI.
Graduates, everyone who is standing, I, this is what's, here's what's happening.
So here's what's happening.
We're using a new AI system as our reader.
Jesus Christ.
Hey.
She's saying, I know, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that is a lesson learned for us.
So, yeah.
What we were able to do, though, as each of you were able to walk the stage and get a picture,
which is what I would hope would be the most meaningful, meaningful.
Yeah, you don't even know how to say because you know the most meaningful thing.
is hearing your fucking name read,
then going on the stage to
acknowledge, rather than posing
like a fucking Instagram photo
background wall to be like,
graduation, thank you.
You want to hear your name.
What the fuck is she talking?
She can't read the names?
Well, here's the thing.
We fed it to an AI.
I don't know where the list went.
And then they lost the list of names.
Apparently there was just some glitch
and it basically like stopped reading names
and they didn't know where they're at.
Like, so it just, it was an incomplete re-announcing of the graduate names.
There's like a wide shot where there's like, you know, like a quarter of the graduating
class just waiting in the wings to be like, hey, I didn't hear my fucking name.
Like my family's here.
What the fuck am I?
What's supposed to happen?
Well, see, the thing you have to understand is AI is bad with lists.
Uh-huh.
Basic numbers, like numbers, basic numbers.
numbers, okay.
Um, but the only two things.
Uh, like facts.
Um, sure, so like when, yeah, like if you ask it, what a fact it, like,
it'll actually agree with you and make up a fact just because it thinks that's what
you wanted to hear.
But otherwise it should be what.
The idea that they just had it read a list of names.
That, that's something also that like technology has been able to do for a long time.
That's not something that you need a.
I have four. And also, like, based on my experience with Alexa, when my kids ask Alexa a question,
uh, it is not good at pronouncing names, like computers bad at pronouncing names. So it just
feels like they're transferring the embarrassment of fucking up onto the software. But like,
this is the most basic. Yeah. Like, it's just a human reading all they need. They're replacing
the job of a printer and a human being with a mouth.
Yeah, right, right, right, right, with AI.
And managing to fuck it up.
And I get it too, right?
Like that, the huge reason why I understand the logic, the logical appeal of why they would have these, like, these name reader things come out.
Because, you know, if your name's like Susan or John or Eric and your last name's Johnson or, you know, like some whatever English name, the Americans have no issues reading that.
But the second, they start throwing some teal days in there, some accent marks, some umlats.
And now motherfuckers act like they're reading like an Aramaic incantation from the necronomicon.
That is a day of work for a single person to go on Google and be like, how does this name pronounced?
Yeah.
And I remember at my school, they would, like a lot of many kids, there were Armenian kids, Korean kids,
Filipino kids, all kinds of last names, middle names, that like, you could go and talk to the person
who is reading it and just give a pronunciation and, like, say it to them, like, one-on-one.
And they're like, okay, cool, I got this.
I got this.
Got this.
Yeah.
Let me write down a little phonetic pronunciate.
Yeah.
How the fuck is AI supposed to, that's what I'm saying.
Brian, the editor is asking, how is AI supposed to help with that?
It's not.
It really just feels like they're like, it's going to, one of them.
us is going to fuck this up. We better just like
let AI do it because otherwise it's
embarrassing. Yeah, I mean there's
there are definitely clips of it
like in the UK.
Here, this is a clip of it
working. Okay.
And they, what they have is like a very
polished AI like
voice over voice doing it.
And this is like hitting some ethnic
names, but this is what it's supposed to sound like
when it works.
Pranash J. Northern
B.A. Honors. History
with politics and international relations.
Okay, Pernash.
Francis Rigby.
B.A. Honors.
History with politics and international relations.
It just sounds like you're in a
in hell's waiting room.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, but...
Damn.
Yeah.
What if we took just all the humanity out of everything?
Yeah.
Out of giving people awards for graduating a college in the humanities.
I don't know if like, you wonder if like, you know,
the faculty is told, like,
you have to use some kind of AI.
It feels like that, doesn't it?
Like, this feels so cheap.
Like, it's like a weird forced integration.
It can read the names.
And that's it.
You know what I mean?
Like maybe that's like their piece offering to,
I don't know,
I'm even acting like maybe the faculty instead.
Who fucking knows?
Well, I've definitely heard of people who like work at major companies
being told that they have to incorporate AI.
Like,
you got to be using AI somehow.
Show me how you're using AI.
to make your job better.
Oh, yeah.
I'm using it to hallucinate medical facts that I can tell my ailing family members.
So I'm using it to do the job of parenting and taking care of my sick relatives while I do the work.
So we're good here.
There's a fun website called Hallupedia, H-A-L-U-E-D-I-A, and it's all AI hallucinations, Wikipedia.
Oh, wow.
So, like, you can go, like, right now, it's just like, the glap, the glap,
lepinning of 1346, Pee Poo, Poo, the movie, 2016, where it just like hallucinates all of this
fucking crazy shit that you ask it, just about a thing. And it will give you something
completely crazy. Like, there's one that's trending right now about Charlie Kirk, who is a
prominent figure in the late medieval textile trade. That's where I knew I'm from. Why? Who are you
talking about? There's another one? Yeah. Let's see. What else we got here? We only got
a couple minutes left.
We got,
should we wish a fond of RIPB,
rest in piss bozo?
Yeah.
Mark Furman.
Mark Furman.
Oh, Detective Mark Furman, Jack.
Detective Mark Furman passed away at the age of 74.
Um,
he,
he was at the center of the OJ trial.
Um,
he was the only person convicted of a crime in relation to the OJ trial.
Um,
Mark Furman for his felony count of perjury when he,
went up and was testifying in the case
and OJ's lawyers were like, hey
and just totally off topic here
unrelated to anything that we're going to ask you
later on in the trial. Do you ever use racial slurs?
He was like, uh, no.
Slurs? I don't even know what?
No, no. And then
they're like, okay, cool, cool, cool. We'll circle back
to that a little bit later at the most
opportune time possible.
Yeah.
And so his testimony was discredited.
And it also, like, came back to,
he was barred from law enforcement
under a California law that was directed at officers
who act criminally.
He lost the ability to be a law enforcement
person in 2024.
Oh, which sucks, you know, because he moved to...
That stinks.
He, what did he, he moved to that town in Idaho
where it's, like, all white supremacist, too.
Like, I remember that was the first.
first time I sort of became aware of that place because it's like, hey, Mark Furman, racist
detective, okay, racist detective is a little redundant. Detective, uh, you know, moved to this place.
And I was like, what is this? You do get, you do get the sense that he, he just got the short,
like he got a bad draw on that one. It's not like he was the only racist APD cop.
It's just he happened to be the one that got the spotlight shined on him. Right. You know,
they're like, Furman.
actually the least racist of
I wonder how he compares
but yeah
just lift up a rock
of LAPD and you'd probably
find a Mark Berman
anyways
passed away of
throat cancer in
Idaho in that
what is it called like
White Cooleinai County
Whitefish is that the name of the town
he's maybe that was Montaner
in Kootenai County
which I guess is
I don't know I don't know
Sorry, I don't know about Idaho.
We don't know.
I just know there's Cordillane there.
And I always thought that was such a fancy name for a place in America.
Yeah.
Like, damn, Cordelaine.
Everybody's just driving around in horse-drawn carriages.
Mm-hmm.
We should also mention that the World Health Organization, which we don't recognize here in the United States.
Yeah, because they're saying wacky shit like this.
Yeah.
So they're trying to get everybody panic because there's an Ebola.
an outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
World Health organizations saying it's a public health
emergency of international concern.
They're also saying that
it probably doesn't
meet the criteria of a pandemic emergency, but
that it seems to be very
bad and uncontained.
336 suspected cases.
Hey, I've seen outbreak, bro.
Yeah.
They talk about hauntavirus and Ebola.
I know. We're speed running
outbreak right now.
No one. No one get on a
fucking airplane with a guy named Denny
who was friends with a monkey.
I don't know if you got the exact
message from that movie.
Is that what it was?
Yeah, yeah. It was the name Denny
that did it. All right. Stay safe
out there. That's going to do it for us.
We're back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind
to yourselves. Get your vaccines
well, you still can.
I'll repeat that, get your vaccines,
but you still can get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will talk to you all tomorrow.
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