The Daily Zeitgeist - Trender Is A Construct 3/13: Trump Banned Words, Democrats, Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Holmes, Smishing, 7-Up

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

In this edition of Trender Is A Construct, Jack and Miles discuss Trump's list of banned words, the Dems stuck between a rock and hard place, Nathan Fielder visiting Elizabeth Holmes in prison?, new w...ord just dropped: Smishing, 7-Up's new strawberry-watermelon offering and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:15 Better not, we got a list of banned words baby. It is broad and shameless. It's wild. It's wild. The New York Times put out this analysis earlier this week or maybe it was like at the end of last week broad and shameless. It's wild. It's wild. The New York Times put out this analysis earlier this week, or maybe it was like at the end of last week, that was just sort of combing through all these websites and public facing documents that the administration has changed or edited.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And they found what they were taking out. And from there, they're like, okay, so these are words that basically all these agencies are being told to limit or avoid using. And it's shit like, I'm not joking, the word black. Like they're talking about- Yeah, black. You can't say the word black. I think what they're saying is like, if you want to refer to black people, do not capitalize
Starting point is 00:02:55 it. It has to be a lowercase b. These are the words. I'm just, I'm going to give you a skimming through. This isn't even the whole- You also can't start a sentence with the word black, by the way. That's true. Just because, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Accessible, activism, activists, advocacy, advocate, affirming care, all-inclusive, allyship, anti-racist, anti-racism, at risk, barriers, belong, bias, biased. Barriers. Yeah, biases, biologically female, biologically male, BIPOC, black, breastfeed plus people or breastfeed plus person. So no, it can't be neutral language or clean energy, climate crisis, clean energy. Yeah. Isn't that like supposed to be the whole thing that like we're going to figure out clean energy?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. No, just get rid of it. Cold climate science. No, no way. You can't say climate science. Confirmation bias, culturally appropriate, DEI, disabilities, disability, discriminated, discrimination, discriminatory, disparity, diverse, diversity, diversify, enhancing diversity, equality, equity, ethnicity, exclusion, expression, female, females, feminism. Why is your game getting banned?
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'm sorry, dude. I'm going for it. I'm going for it. We already found out that Trump listens to this podcast. We're shedding all the sponsors, gender, gender-based violence, gender ideology, Gulf of Mexico. Gender, you can't even say, Gulf of, wow. Hate speech, historically. Identity?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yes. You can't even say identity? Not even immigrants? Well how are you gonna, what are you, that's your favorite fucking buzzword right now, implicit biases, inclusion, inclusive, LGBT, LGBTQ, marginalized, fucking a Native American, non-binary, oppression, oppressive, pollution, political, pregnant people, pregnant person, prejudice, race, pronouns, race and
Starting point is 00:04:42 ethnicity, racial diversity, segregation, sex, sexual preferences, sexuality, social justice, status, stereotype, systemic, systemically, they, them, trans, transgender, transsexual, trauma, traumatic, fucking victim is on there. Victim, yeah, you can't have that. We just don't acknowledge that there's any such thing. Vulnerable, I think this is such a telling just list of what the aims are because we know
Starting point is 00:05:07 Empathy is a huge thing that they are trying to whittle away at like You have empathy so of course if you get rid of words like victims and you Disappear that as a concept from things that when people go to government agencies or whatever it is like unbelievable It's just this is what they're doing women Yeah. Yeah. Women is a banned word. Women. Yeah. Yeah. In this administration, in this household, being the white household, we only refer to them as... Do not acknowledge these terms. We only refer to them as ladies. Ladies, girls, girlies, brats. You know what I mean? Girlies. I'm surprised they didn't have... They took female off because that's like every fuck Girls, girly, broads. You know what I mean? Girly.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I'm surprised they didn't have, they took female off because that's like every fuck boys favorite word to use to refer to fucking females. So yeah, female is off. But can't even call them females. Because it has to be men or man or woman. But yeah, this is, you know, just another, just a glimpse into like all of the real work that's happening in this fucking regime.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's just to get rid of these words. Women is not as often. Yeah, you can't have the word black. Historically also seems very like mask off. Having the authoritarian government ban the word historically. Yeah. Is like, they're not even doing like the double speak from 1984. They're just like, nah, I don't want you to talk about history. Don't talk about history. Don't fucking give people context. I'm surprised context isn't even on there. That's a huge enemy of, uh, can't say the word sex. Don't say sex. That's, wow. That was pretty, pretty far along.
Starting point is 00:06:46 This feels like very much like, like whatever project 2025 person got this, like was on this project. We're like, yes, get rid of all of it. Yeah. It's, I would say a bad look. I would say not, not a good look for them at a time when they're having a lot of bad looks.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Well, they don't care. This is the first half of an 80s getting dressed montage because I'm seeing a lot of bad looks. You're the friend who's watching all the outfits come out going, nope, doing the finger one. All right, we got it. We got the Democrats here to save us, though. They're facing a government shutdown. And, you know, I feel like they're going to do the right thing and not support. Oh, my God. We don't. So as it stands, right, the Senate has yet to vote on the continuing
Starting point is 00:07:40 resolution that would fund the government through the end of September. This is the same. This is the bill that puts simply the Republicans need support from Democrats to pass this bill that Trump has publicly stated he isn't fucking beholden to actually abiding by any of those spending totals. So for the people who are like, well, it's going to help fund the government. This guy's saying right now is like, I don't need to fucking actually follow through on whatever this is. I just need you to keep the government going so I can go all full steam ahead on doing perm attacks cuts forever and gutting shit like Medicare and Medicaid. So right now there are a few options on the table. One that the Democrats is like, which is the most Democrat thing they wanted, it could do is they'll vote to support cloture,
Starting point is 00:08:23 which basically means that they'll bring the bill to the floor. So then they can be like, well, at least if we vote for cloture, we can then debate the bill and we can put amendments up. And then the Senate, the Republicans in the Senate will be on record voting no to all these great amendments that we, the Democrats, proposed to say, we're trying to make this bill look more sane and less fucked up. Again, they'll just laugh your ass out because they have the majority.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So all that's going to do is just be pretend fucking performative resistance. The other fucking option on the table is to not give them the votes and let the government shut down. I think any again, the other shit, this isn't going to help. So right now there's a lot of efforts. If you're listening and you care to call your senator and tell them you better vote no, are you fucking for real?
Starting point is 00:09:09 Like what do you fucking think is going on? Because there are two things that the Democrats can do. The options really fall very neatly into two fucking buckets. It's help Republicans or resist their bullshit. And you're gonna have to resist. This is where the chips are down. Because right now they're stuck between
Starting point is 00:09:28 do we appease the Trump camp and be an accessory to their already in progress shutting down of the government, or do we deal with the discomfort of letting Republicans blame us for a shutdown? I think you need to choose the latter. What if we vote for it it but we have a little sign that says not or like don't like it or something like that that we raise while we say yes. I do I go PU. Yeah, PU sign would be good. PU, stinky. Yeah, but again allowing
Starting point is 00:10:03 this bill to go through is not off This is this is 100% just opening the door for Trump to continue this fucking rampage that he's currently on At a certain point you have to be the resistance, you know be the resistance you want to see the thing is I totally like their whole thing is, you know, John Fetterman the bravest fucking turd in the Senate Like I'm not voting for chaos. I don't want to shut the government down. Motherfucker, what do you think they're going to do? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Just fucking fall back, dude. So, again, when you think about the federal workers, the head of the American Federation of Government Employees is basically saying, we are already shut down. This is the statement that came out of the American Federation of Government Employees. With thousands of federal workers either fired, placed on administrative leave, or at immediate risk of losing their jobs, AFGE members have concluded that a widespread government shutdown has been underway since January 20th and will continue to
Starting point is 00:10:59 spread whether senators vote yes or no on HR1968. That's the continuing resolution. Under the current CR, federal workers are being treated no better than they will be if government funding ceases Friday night. Yes, it is true that workers who have not yet been fired are at least drawing a paycheck for now, but if HR1968 becomes law, AFGE knows that DOGE will dramatically expand its terminations of federal workers and double down on its campaign to make federal agencies fail because there will be nothing left to stop the administration for the balance of fiscal year 2025, if ever. Yeah, but there it is. On the other hand, Democrats don't like it. They don't don't be mad at me. They're gonna blame us.
Starting point is 00:11:41 They're gonna say mean things about us. They say mean shit about you anyways. Every fucking day, you losers. Does not matter what you do, so you might as well do the right thing. I don't know how they can twist their head into thinking anything else, but I'm voting to help the Republicans that you're not a collaborator. Right. But that would take, I don't know, people like it would be like friction and people be like, say mean things about us in the newspaper. And I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that makes sense for John Federman, because he will literally he will contort himself into whatever people pleasing shape he needs to like fuck any kind of ideas. So, yeah, we'll see. As of right now, a lot of like, this is like the huge thing that's happening on Capitol Hill, enough people trying to pressure
Starting point is 00:12:29 the Senate Democrats to be like, dude, bring on the fucking shutdown. But the stakes seem so high and so obvious what the choice is that I believe that they will continue their fucking self-owned tour where they just can show people they aren't worth your fucking vote ever again.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. All right. So there are reports that Nathan Fielder is visiting Elizabeth Holmes in prison. Nobody really knows exactly why. Could be any reason, but people think it's for a documentary that he might be working on, which that's very exciting to me. Like at a time when scamming is the new national pastime,
Starting point is 00:13:12 our greatest fucked up documentarian is visiting our greatest scammer, most like weird kind of warped scammer in prison. I feel like they could make beautiful a Weird work of art together. Yeah I don't it's like it's it's frightening to think about what Nathan Fielder and Elizabeth Holmes Conversations would be like and if he's actually there for the purpose of making something like where this goes. Yeah Just I'd like even I even believe that maybe they're in love and this is nothing doing
Starting point is 00:13:48 anything like he's just like he's boot up with Elizabeth Holmes. That would be that would be a question. I mean, well, so I feel like that is, you know, it combines like the things they have in common, weird and ultimately bullshit sales pitch. OK. common, weird and ultimately bullshit sales pitch. Okay. He tends to fall for very strange women, you know, in random women, random women, sex women, any women he just, he exudes a deep, unfakable loneliness. And then, yeah, they're just both some of the strangest people to ever exist. I love to talk about the time that I saw him at Just For Laughs, like early in the Nathan
Starting point is 00:14:32 For You run. And like he just got up on stage and after doing a dead eyed Lana Del Rey song while making eye contact with the crowd, he just started looking around the room and then just started pulling people onto stage and he found the weirdest people in the room and they all had some weird thing about them and that is his gift on top of a number of things, is to just be able to cold read a room and be like that person is hiding some weird secret.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Like they have like some fascinating personality defect and he can like do it just by looking around a room. So. Like some fucked up comedy Terminator. Just. Yeah, exactly. And so. Yes, you. And so, I mean, this feels like he is using the last 10 to 15 years news cycle as a crowd to pull from. And he's like, I have found my muse. She is really interesting and weird in the way that I feel like, you know, the guy from, from the quiz show in episode one of the rehearsal was just, just couldn't turn away from.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah. I mean, she's also friends with like Jen Shaw from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City in prison with homes. I don't even know. Yeah. I think with like Nathan Fielder, it's better to like, it's always going to be even better than what you think it is. Yeah, I feel like so point That's been true. It's like the most basic thing is like yeah, they have I mean there are reports that he is clearly making Something there is a project involving Elizabeth Holmes and Nathan Fielder is like the one thing I we we do know what that means fucking who knows like and if it even has anything to do with Theranos, I don't even whatever Nathan. Just just give us something. Please please something waiting for the rehearsal season two with bated breath Yeah, that's coming, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right April. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:20:59 Okay. The word is smishing. And for some reason I just like saying it. I like thinking about it. But it's coming from one of my least favorite wordsmiths, the FBI. Ah, damn it. Nah, it's watched then.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah. It's their talk. It's FBI talk, unfortunately. It's just, it has such promise. It feels like it could be like a weird sex thing. But in fact, it's just scam text messages. It's just a combination of phishing and SMS messages. This is, I mean, what it is is like,
Starting point is 00:21:32 I think all of us have received some form of this text where they tell you that you didn't pay your toll on the road express lane or something, and then like, because you've gotten an outstanding amount, or unless before it comes 60 bucks, you better pay and click this link. And then basically you download it now. I didn't get that scam, I got a real one
Starting point is 00:21:49 that I had to pay off. So you're in good standing with the Delaware Department of Transportation? Yes, thank God. Okay, good, good, good. It was a close one. I just had to let them hold a shoe box of $10,000 cash. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But yeah, like they say that you should, a shoe box of ten thousand dollars cash But yeah, like they say that you should I don't know if you need to delete these I mean obviously Yeah, they're telling people to delete them I don't know if that's because they're worried that like you'll accidentally click on them like having a gun in the house You just like get this out of there. It's you don't know what's gonna happen but it's first of all, like, because I did get I have gotten these texts before and immediately ignored them because they're they're also like kind of poorly executed. Yeah, like they usually have like some weird string of letters.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But then I got an actual toll in the because this is like a thing that happens now. They're like instead of toll booths, we just have like a like nine metal bridge that you like drive under. And then your chart, then we send you a bill in the mail like three weeks later. And it's always too late. And you already owe like the fifty dollars or whatever, which is very frustrating because you wanted to save 45 minutes driving to San Diego Fucking San Diego. I'm like that's the one where they get you it is. That's exactly where it got me
Starting point is 00:23:11 I'm I wait look at the four of I'm like what the fuck yeah, and then they're like well you can take this Private you just got to sign up for like toll roads Yeah ahead of time with a spelled with a Z for some reason. Three. I'm, is that safe? Yeah. Are you implying that they're asleep on the road? But yeah, I mean it is like a shitty government scam that is like making it possible for them to just be like, Oh, we'll just blend right in there. Like that gives us, that gives us a nice little cover,
Starting point is 00:23:41 nice little lead blocker there. Yeah. They should, if they were smart, they should do ones pretending to be the Democrats begging for money. Oh, they- You'll probably get way more people if you're like, we're gonna stop Trump right now. I need 10 bucks. If you know what we mean. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:23:57 What? A lot of those tweets about when somebody does it lately. Wait, what? I've been noticing people talking about when somebody does it lately. I've been noticing. Like people talking about when somebody finally does it, they're gonna be mentioned in so many rap songs. And we don't know what they're referring to. Yeah, right. Have you gotten the text that says,
Starting point is 00:24:16 hey, like hey Linda, when are we playing golf? No, I get a lot of stuff. I'm sure I've gotten that at some point. I've gotten invited to so many meals it makes me feel great and like Beloved, you know what get that kind of submission like lunches and yeah Oh my god, it's been so long like hey I'm actually in town like they I feel like they've gotten a little bit better
Starting point is 00:24:39 but the toll road one is kind of the most ingenious because They happened on a thing that it like that is a real thing that people are suddenly having to deal with, which is like in the mail, uh, toll shit just coming to you too late. Yeah. I've gotten three Linda. When are we going to play golf texts in the last two months? It's weird that they specifically put incorrect name in it, but there must be some research that is like,
Starting point is 00:25:07 people will respond and say, hey, you've got the wrong number. And like, then they're hooked. Right. Hey, my name's not actually Linda. What's your name? I'm so lonely. Yeah, I like golf.
Starting point is 00:25:22 All right, we got some people who lost their job due to the federal, you know, cutting of many federal jobs. Yeah, the Doge cuts. But the judge did actually just tell six agencies to rehire those people pronto ASAP, which seems like they might have to, but it's still going back and forth and back and forth. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that whole thing of like people it's weird You see content where they're like on both left and right where there are people on the left who are like, oh Yeah, do fuck around and find out you voted for Trump. Haha
Starting point is 00:25:57 You have no job in a country that treats the people without jobs terribly. Yeah, and then on the right they're like Yeah, take that woke park ranger. Woke forest service person. Because it is weird that, you know, being against like your own family members, being against the national parks and being for forest fires. Those are things that like don't, that famously have high and low approval ratings
Starting point is 00:26:29 respectively. Right, right. It is weird that they're, you know, people are jumping on the bandwagon, jumping on the pro forest fire, anti family member having a job. These people would vote for their own fucking heads to be on fire
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah, if like it just came out of like the narrative of what the MAGA world is considering a win feels bad feels bad Well, at least they're all heavily armed and finally 7up is dropping a refreshing new flavor on us that is strawberry and watermelon I feel like watermelon rarely like artificial watermelon flavor rarely works and strawberry. Dude, the chemical ass watermelon flavor. I think it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah. Like are we both picking up the Jolly Ranchers? Yeah, exactly. Yes, the watermelon Jolly Ranchers is like, wait, you think watermelon tastes like fucking aerosol spray and gasoline? Yeah, yeah, exactly. It sounds like a fucking, it tastes like an oil rag with some spritzes of like Febreze. Right. Not, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And like strawberry, famously one of the best fake flavors that doesn't exist right just stick with that, bro Yeah, just strawberry soda divisive. This shit is good divisive. I'm not I'm not a I'm not a fan of this I feel like they're having like the Like the strawberry sodas I've had it just like to it's just like such dull sweetness I feel like if you like just get a little whiff of like the strawberry like actual like kind of Tartness of a strawberry with the with the dull sweetness. I feel like it could work really well Just a hint of citrus. Give me a little lemonade vibe in that strawberry soda and that's gonna
Starting point is 00:28:16 Give you that little part dimension. You're missing from just that bland sweetness of like a like a you know, strawberry sunkist or whatever Yeah, yeah. Lemon is always an underrated, like the lemon in blueberry pie, an underrated element that really brings it together. People don't realize, bro. It's all about balance. You know what I mean? All about that balance. My mom, one of my favorite desserts, my mom's great at desserts. And she makes this one. In addition, she's very famous for chocolate chip cookies. Yes, yes. Real cakey, soft. She also makes this one in addition. She's very famous chocolate chip cookies. Yes real cakey soft She also makes this one called strawberries Jessica and it's strawberry
Starting point is 00:28:52 Ex girlfriends named Jessica. There you go, and it's strawberries in this like sweet really sweet like white cream sauce but it the the hint or the the Secret is there's a lot of lemon juice in there in the sweet sauce really really makes the berries sing Anyway, I can't even find it seven up. No, I'm just checking. Where is damn? I can't even yo This is like I just searched for strawberries Jessica. I can't even she actually had to kill a woman to get that recipe And have it not exist on the internet. Holy shit and her name lives on as Jessica. That's that's all we will say We won't say her last name, but okay Oh, I found it. There it is. The way I found it is someone just took a photo of a printed paper with it on there Yeah, that sounds about right. I think that's what we had too.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Half cup heavy cream, half cup sour cream, one to two tablespoons of sugar, juice of half a lemon, make sure, add strawberries cut in half, add it. There it is. Oh, and then you can also add vodka? That might've been where I started my nasty little relationship with vodka.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Should I strawberry? No, it should hit so hard though. It's so good. Yeah vodka. All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.
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