The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendernational Women's Day 3/8

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

In this very special International Women's Day episode, super producers Anna and Becca discuss Wednesday Addams, Magic Mike, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet or daily zeitgeisters that's how you start this show right wow huge this is super producer anna and i am joined by super producer Becca. Hello, hello. And we are doing an International Women's Day trending episode. Let's give a moment of silence for all the people who are about to turn this off. Perfect. And we lost the week once oh feeling good yes everyone who stayed you guys are the true champions and if you stayed you're about to get the real tea behind daily psych guys that's right this is a bravo style reunion of the two people who know exactly what's happening and we're about to tell you everything absolutely could you imagine we just come on here. We destroy the show. Check us back.

Totally confused why all the T's out. And we get canceled. And that's, you know, just how it goes. So it is Wednesday, March 8th. It is officially International Women's Day. You know, look, women, we have been here. And women identifying. That's right.

Shout out to every person who identifies as a woman in this world. We see you. We are here for you. And we're here to do an entire sort of trending episode about how women deserve more rights than men. That's right. We're not even feminists. We believe women deserve more rights. Yeah.

We've moved beyond. We're like, men, catch a cab. I love to tell people to catch a cab. Anyway, so yes, it is Wednesday, March 8th. And we are here to tell you, actually, let's, Becca, should we start with some like women's, International Women's Day facts that you looked up and not I, so I'm going to let you do this portion of that. To be quite honest, when I was like doing a little google uh for the show i was having trouble finding fun facts i was like can we get some ladies facts and truly they were kind of shitty but a couple of them that i found interesting was one the first ever woman's day

was observed in the united states on the 28th of february in 1909 in commemoration of the 15,000 women who protested in New York against harsh working conditions, more working hours, and lesser wages. So let's thank those women who were, you know, in the triangle shirtwaist fires and things like that that were really pushing for the first wave feminism rights. But obviously there was a lot of racism in all of that. So let's not give them too much credit

yeah you know oh super producer brian a man uh-oh fighting for women's rights yes he says shout out ada lovelace he did say off pod that he was fully in support of men not having rights so yeah we did pause at a world where we took men's like voting rights away for eight years. But then we were also kind of like, wait a second, all the white women who voted for Trump could ruin that experience for us. So they'll take away the trans rights again. And like, that's not really what we're going for.

So, you know, yeah, no respect. It doesn't mean you're always the best person in the room. It just means that you have been othered in your life. Yeah, but also you had another fact about how much money women make. Oh yeah, this fact I feel like has not gotten better year after year after year. I was trying to find like a cute little graphic, couldn't find one but i did finally read the uh census bureau's documentation of our lack of pay as women uh overall women earn 82 cents for every dollar a man earns hispanic or latino women i'ma say latine women uh earn about 58 cents to the dollar and black women earn 63 cents for the dollar of every white man earned. So needless to say, pay us more. This is embarrassing that every year we have this

argument. They're like, oh my God, let's pay women. And then like, we get the same statistics every year. It doesn't change. That's right. And your stats from that came from December 15, 2022. Yeah. Like literally this is recent it hasn't gotten better and i don't know what those stats are for trans women um and trans women of color you know they don't have those included because there's you know discrimination and obviously i as much as we're being fun silly little goofs i want to be you know very transparent that support trans women support you know especially black transparent that support trans women support, you know, especially black trans women. It is a really rough time in the hellscape. That is our political landscape for trans folks, especially black trans women are always the most marginalized.

So like support all women, including trans women. Yeah. And I guess the biggest thing is don't be a turf. Yeah. Don't be a turf. Don't do that. That's a simpler way to biggest thing is don't be a TERF. Yeah. Don't be a TERF. Don't do that. That's a simpler way to put it. Don't be a TERF. There's no reason. My biggest struggle in the like ever just hearing people who are TERFs. And I recently did encounter one that shook me to my core because I did not realize this person would be one. But I was like, why are you so affected by this? I'll never get it. By a person identifying as a woman. There's no reason for it to affect you in any regard.

And you know, that's why we need more media and content in the world about and being created by trans people because it's like, you clearly have this issue with someone because they identify as a woman and you're just like flabbergasted, but you can't wrap your mind around it. Well, have you ever spoken to a trans person? Have you ever listened to a trans person's story? Have you ever like actually gone out of your way to take in what their life is like or why they are identified? Like you, you don don't even care which is why you're

jumping to this conclusion that like it's this or it's that i don't like it and it's like well what what are you bringing to the table other than negativity and and hate for a human being absolutely trying to live their life and survive in their truest like identity. Yeah. It's like, it's like, that is never easy to do. So what, like, why don't you believe trans women? If it is fundamentally more difficult to live your life as a trans woman,

you know, like, yeah, it's like, there's no reason to not believe in their identity because it is so much easier to just stick with your cis identity. If that is what you do or don't identify as, you know, like it is so much easier to just stick with your cis identity if that is what you do or don't identify as you know like it is so much harder to transition whether you do fully transition or not

you still are a woman as that is the way it is and there's just no reason i i i don't see the argument but i guess the argument that i have heard i don't identify with this argument is they feel that trans women encroach on like the inherent suffering that comes with having actual female anatomy but i'm like i it's like a threat and you're like it's not a threat and it's like how is that a threat to your woman actually has nothing it has nothing to do if anything i wish i didn't have these issues to do with you yeah i'm like if i could not have, I wish I didn't have these issues. Literally nothing to do with you. Yeah. I'm like, if I could not have a period, that'd be lit of shit. Like, I don't want to be on birth control ever again.

This shit is evil. Get it out. Yeah. And I think that's the toughest part is like, there is this person's experience and choices if they are choosing to transition to be a woman does not make you any less of a woman it doesn't make you anything other than another human being who should have empathy for that experience the human struggle yeah to like want to feel whole and like themselves absolutely also then be themselves in a public setting without judgment it's like that has nothing to do with you nothing

you should also try and live yourself and be comfortable with yourself because clearly you're not comfortable with yourself if you're attacking another person. Absolutely. Just saying. And a lot of, I was listening to a podcast the other day

that was talking about how, you know, a lot of these hormones that are necessary for trans people to feel whole, you know, these hormones were developed for cis people originally. So it's like these arguments that they're making about the medical necessities and like the harmfulness

for the bodies, it's just like all wrong because these hormone replacement therapies and things were developed for cis people with like hormonal issues, like thyroid problems or you know, dealing with, I don't know, any other medical issues that would

complicate your hormone regularity. So it's like these were developed for hetero bodies to begin with. So like, it's not harmful for trans people to receive the medical care that they desire. You know, it's like to get top surgery, it's like we we've had mastectomies for so long too, you know, like, and that is for health purposes. So it's just so silly that all these medical procedures for trans people to feel safe in their bodies are being limited because of the damages when in reality the science was developed for cis people already. Yeah. Goofy. Yeah. And I feel like as a country, we always find a way to other and it's, it's really, it's sad. You know, like another story that we're seeing right now is how the right is coming the right and the conservatives are coming for drag and drag queens and it's like there is no reason to take a very

beautiful performance but you know like it's a performance these people work as a performance of femininity for sure yeah like it's like and they like it's it's art it's literally yeah i'm sorry can you go away go into a back room and come out looking like some of these drag queens their outfits their hair their makeup they're literally creating new styles of like how to do your makeup like they are breaking barriers and you're sitting here being like, the children, they can't see the drag queens. It's like, what are you talking about? It's so crazy. The children are not being groomed. The children are not here being worried.

You guys are putting out all these weird fake videos of drag queens performing for children, which is not the case. It's not real. They're not doing that. Drag is a beautiful art form that like takes so much preparation and like also stamina like it's skill i can't perform anything so much skill like i love drag i'm a big drag fan

i watch rupaul's drag race i've watched many of the other um spinoffs what's the one that um it's like the horror drag show that was on i don't remember uh dragula dragula thank you shout out super producer bay um yes i love dragula drag was my favorite because i love like the horror uh aspect of it but it's like it requires like sewing gluing the creativity of designing these things like you are designers you are seamstresses you are makeup artists you are like hairdressers like you're designing these wigs to be like absolutely the skills that a lot of women have come from drag too you know it's like we cross over and learn from drag just as much as we learn from also black women because let's be honest like they're setting the standard and then everyone else was pulling from you know black women so yeah black trans

women too you know it's like very specifically all comes back down to that so fuck the haters we're here for women fuck the haters uh let these drag queens perform without creating unnecessary misinformation about who they are and what they do as artists. So have some respect. Have some respect. For the people who literally

create like the baseline of what performance then gets appropriated. So, you know, open your eyes and also watch Drag Race. It's a great show. I love Drag Race. I went to Drag Race last night. Honestly. And if you watch All Stars, All Stars is the best of the best. All right.

Let's actually take a, let me just talk about All Stars for like 45 minutes. Let's take a quick ad break and then we'll be back and we're going to, you know, talk a few more stories that involve women. Okay? All right. BRB. I'm Jess Casavetto,

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he's like my show's called armchair which by the way this is off topic but did you see the image that they took for the instagram for the show dack shepard looks real odd in that image like he looks like he's got like hella eyeliner on or something it's like i did not but i will look it up right now he looks a little i'm like why is no one talking about that um i get it the interview was very insightful but um i was really interested in that image being super wild um but um dinner take has been doing a little bit of press uh she was on the armchair expert with dax shepherd and she kind of goes into what happened on wednesday's set we had already heard rumors i feel like the past few, about how kind of inhospitable the set was. Like she was fully performing while having COVID.

Like she was very, you know, not very well taken care of. She had to learn so much shit. Like she was learning different languages. She was learning how to, you know, play the cello and like martial arts and fencing and all sorts of things. So the role was really like, wow, that woman is such a badass. But she kind of talks about on

armchair expert how she was pushing these little bit of unprofessional boundaries by like literally changing the script behind writers backs and then like using her own lines while she was doing it because she was just like, I don't understand what they're doing with this character. Like I signed on when I took this project, especially being a Tim Burton project, I thought it was for an adult audience. I did not know it was going to be for a young adult audience. And given the most recent roles she's been taking on,

she has been doing way more serious work. So it makes sense that she would have chosen to sign on for the show when it was you know pitched to her as geared towards an adult audience versus a young adult audience like she has been doing the scream franchises she's been pushing herself as a scream queen to be honest uh she's been in quite a few horror movies lately uh her role on you is also pretty serious even though that came from a cw you know original script um but that show is pretty dark it's not for young adult audience by any means if you watched it um so yeah she was just like as i was reading this they've like turned wednesday into this very two-dimensional

character like the storylines don't even make sense like why would she be in a love triangle she's kind of like an asexual human being she was arguing with tim burton about how much emotion should wednesday have because i'm assuming tim burton didn't want wednesday to have emotion and kind of make her this like wall of a person but right then our ticket was like well then she has no dimension if she has zero emotion you know and if you've watched the former IP of Adam's family, Wednesday has, I mean, she's a dark, twisted character, kind of like almost Joker-esque, where her mind is just like,

and she kind of has this scary-ass smile to her a little bit, like a little bit Uncanny Valley vibe. But she is an emotional character. She chooses to act out in her own justice ease. And she isn't about, you know, I mean, she's about full chaos,

but she is not about letting like bad people win, you know, that's like kind of her vibe. So kudos to Jenna Ortega. She's really young. She's also a Brown woman in the industry. So for her to like be, you know, acting so aggressively while on set, I think it's like such a testament to where Gen Z is at today and how they are really changing the boundaries of like what it means to work in this industry and just like work in general and being able to stand up for themselves.

So I'm I'm a Jen Arteaga fan. And I honestly liked the show. I did. I'm a Jenna Ortega fan. And I honestly liked the show. I did. So I'm curious what it would have been like had it been what she had envisioned it was going to be. Because I enjoyed what it was.

I watched the whole thing. Yeah. I will say I watched the first episode and I did feel potentially the show was for a younger audience. And so my partner kept watching it, but I did not continue. Yeah.

I think because I was like, oh, I don't know if I need to see Wednesday like in high school or whatever. I kind of backed off of it a little but i am curious if it had gone the way she originally thought how it would be and i actually am glad that she decided to risk sort of you know changing it up and stepping up and saying something because you know in a lot of cases especially like our era of growing up like when you are a woman of color or even just like a woman in general when you start to like sort of point things out and be like dude what the fuck this should be this way why is this happening can we change this you know the room turns on you sometimes crazy you're just replaced

all of a sudden you become a bit a lot and i know you guys are like it's a stereotype it's a stereotype to an extent but also a lot of us have experienced this very clear sort of bias towards women and women of color when we want to put ourselves out there and say something because you are automatically labeled a certain way you're labeled as like you know hard to work with crazy you know and i recently was um i heard a story about someone you know uh a guy broke up with this girl and i was like oh like is she okay like what happened and he just immediately was like well she was crazy and i was like i know this person yeah she's not. Why are you just saying she's crazy? Because that's like, it's just like almost like a blanket statement to just be like,

to dismiss a woman, to be like, well, you know, she's crazy. And it's like, she's probably like a multi-dimensional person who you could not understand. So you're just dismissing her as crazy. Absolutely. And not acknowledge maybe your role into like what made her feel, you know, difficult to work with or whatever i know i don't know we've talked offline of our experiences with this type of behavior where it's like we have spoken out in other workplaces and been shafted for it so to speak you know like

i've definitely experienced this deeply um so i am very proud of jenna ortega and she i mean her the fruits of her labor paid off the show did really well and it got renewed for a second season and it was just recently announced after this interview went out that she is going to be an EP for this next season so oh great good maybe the show will be

slightly different or progress in a different way I'm excited to see what she does with it and I'm it's nice to see her, coming up and getting her roles and also carving out a path that like in the past was considered almost like a low end acting choice. I'm talking about being a scream queen for a very long time was looked down upon.

Yeah. Like people would be like, Oh, they're a scream queen. They're not a serious actor, but she's actually really working hard to change that narrative about what it is to be a scream queen or what it is to be a person

who particularly likes being in horror films. Yeah. And good for her. Fuck yeah, Jenna, keep doing you. All right, Becca. Now we're at a very important part of the show. This is a spinoff of Anna's Streaming Corner. It's Becca and Anna's Movie Theater Corner. It's Becca and Anna's

Movie Theater Corner. It's where we talk about a movie that we both saw in theaters and that we enjoyed. And of course, we have to talk about Magic Mike's Last Dance.

Okay. If y'all listened, I covered Magic Mike XXL on the Bechtel cast a few weeks ago. I immediately saw Magic Mike. Great episode. Go listen to it right now.

Stop and go listen. No, wait, and then go listen. Magic Mike Last Dance, honestly, it blew me out of the water. There was a standing ovation when I went. Like, the ladies were screaming in the theater. They were, like, looking up. Like, I went to the bathroom after, and there was a bunch of ladies who had seen it in the same theater.

And they were like, so, yeah, let, let's like look up a strip club. Like, let's go. Like, can we see Magic Mike? Like they were ready to get horny in public. And I was living. How'd you feel, Anna? What are your thoughts? I had a very similar experience in the theater.

I went with a group of like 10 people, mostly women, two gay men. But, you know, look, we don't discriminate. You know, I'm just joking. But we went and it was a theater filled with mostly women and let me tell you you know and the straggling boyfriend here and there who's just i i had brought my struggling boyfriend yeah and he was down to clown he loved it yeah and so the theater going experience was incredible like the energy in the room when Channing Tatum starts dancing is electric. Like it is such a fun movie going experience.

And I will tell you, I saw XXL in theater as well. Same experience. It was incredible. And that energy, you don't really find that in theaters. And I will say Magic Mike's Last Dance is a plot hole filled continuity, just narrative mess. I left. Such a narrative mess. Okay.

First of all, what was the story there? I don't understand what's going on. But the dancing was incredible. It was like. I feel like it took a learning from like every movie. Like it built upon itself. It was like, it took the critiques of like we want more dancing you know and they were like we're gonna give you more dancing this

time because to me magic my excel not enough dancing um so they were like we're gonna give you more shirtless channing tatum and then they're bringing back the critique from you know movie one was like we want more channing tatum because i feel like the like first movie lot dancing you know and focus on channing tatum and the second movie was like more about the friends, not enough dancing. Yeah. The second one was more of like a road trip movie. Which was fun. We loved it.

It was a fun romp. But this one, it was like, we're going to give you like step up vibes. Like we're bringing it back to the roots of it all. Channing Tatum, step up, hotness, dancing. The wet dance scene was incredible which fun um I have some fun insight on that which yes I said I agree it was it was almost also like the the making uh like an origin story of like what the Magic Mike live show is yes in Vegas yeah um but okay so that there's and I guess this is a spoiler. I mean,

you should have known the second we said Magic Magaless Dance, full of spoilers. Sorry. Spoilers, spoilers. We can't spoil too much because there's not really any plot.

Yeah, there's not. We can't give you like real plot spoilers because that would need to include a plot. So, but what we're going to tell you is that there is a dance sequence

that it's almost like a, like a sexy in the water sort of like it's a dance. It tells a story about a relationship. It's kind of confusing why it comes up based on the like if you're watching the movie and they're doing the last dance, like the the final, the act of the show that they have built over months in the London. You're like, this doesn't go in the show, but we gotta have a wet Channing Tatum scene. Exactly. Because the whole time,

Channing's like, he does a big dance sequence at the top, and then the rest, he's like, I'm not dancing in the show. I'm not dancing in the show. And Salma Hayek's like,

you gotta dance. I don't know. And then in the end, he's like, wait a second, I'm gonna do the sexiest dance possible. So he does the dance

with a ballerina and this ballerina, her name is Kylie Shea. She is a real ballerina. She's a choreographer. She's great at what she does. She did a very similar dance sequence with Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. And it's that episode where he goes and does the dance. It's same thing. It's in water. It's a very similar dance. it's a performance art piece and he's doing it for his father i don't know if you guys saw that episode hilarious episode it's the same woman from that dance sequence and they got her to come and do magic mike's last dance and i was when i learned this on twitter i was having i was so happy i was like yes it's her because i in the

theater who i was sitting next to my friend ali Allie Turnpin goes, doesn't this remind you of that Always Sunny episode? And I go, yeah, it does. That's so funny. Yeah, he did do something like this. Turns out, same woman. Because you know what? She knows art. She knows art.

And she knows comedy. And you know what? Like, at the end of the day, it was a romp. Like I said in the episode with the Bechdel cast, it's like you watch Channing Tatum, you're like, this is a movie star. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, he's not the most talented actor, for sure. But that's not why we go see him. We see him because he's hot and we see him because he's fucking charming as shit. And you're like, wow, you're watching and you're like, God, I want to date him. Like, he's so himbo, you know? He's just like, he's so fun. He's so beautiful. He's going to make you

laugh. He's going to grind on you and it's going to be crazy. It's like his body is going to gyrate in a way that you're like, what? Like you're literally going to be confounded by the way his body is gyrating. That's all you could ever want. And that's all you want. What was crazy to me about the movie was it was so jarring the way that they try to set it up because like you have this like british voice narrating the whole movie and you're like what is this like i'll tell you this deterrent

of path from these other that is a choice they made and i'm assuming because i actually haven't read this that is a choice they made after the fact when they watch this movie no one understands there's no plot so we're going to give a a narration to the daughter of salma hayek who's a writer she's like writing a book she's writing a novel she's in high school whatever uh she's got daddy she's rich and adopted and has daddy and mommy issues and his hates her parents for being like rich people who are divorcing question mark they saw my high it's like actively sleeping with channing tatum but she's like but we're like not together like me and my husband like we're not together like we have an open marriage and then he's like i'm leaving you and she's like and he's like i'm shutting down your sexy man dancing

yeah not clear what's happening there again plot holes galore so anyway so they add this like narration by a young girl to like, I guess try and tie the pieces. Let me tell you, the narration is so irrelevant to what's going on. It's also so out of place.

Like you're like, what is she talking about? The whole time I kept being like, I'm sorry, what is she talking about? Anyway, so that's the movie. Look,

it is what it is, but great time. Let me tell you, great time. It was literally, I want to go back and see it. I have not like literally had time to go but great time it was literally I want to go back and see it I have not like literally had time

to go back and see it but I want to go see it again like it is the most fun I've had seeing a movie in a long time like same

I will say Everything Everywhere All At Once was one of the most impactful movies I've ever seen like I watched it and I was like oh my god

I'm literally moved I'm emotionally like exhausted I'm never gonna be able to feel my feelings as deeply as I've ever felt today. But if we're talking fun,

this is the most fun I've had in a movie. I truly was sitting there, teeheehing. I was clapping. I was like, oh my god, Channing Tatum fucked Salma Hayek. Yes, we needed that because there was not enough sex in the last movie. Sorry, not sorry. Yeah, they really gave you sex. They gave you sexiness. They gave you dancing. They gave you sexiness. They gave you dancing.

They gave you Channing Tatum fun. They gave you Channing Tatum in real love. And it actually, like, it, like, made sense that it didn't make sense. Because, like, like we said, there's no plot. But, like, it made way more sense than it ever did in the first movie. Because, like, the first movie, I feel like they just, like, shoehorned in this, like, love plot at the end. horned in this like love plot at the end but this movie you're like okay you built the movie around these two people kind of like falling in love as they work together and fuck right so you understood it and felt relieved by the end that it thanks to gen z and i am giving gen z this credit there is

no gratuitous sex scene in this movie no it's very much like they're like oh i'm dancing i'm dancing and then cut to in bed together yeah we fucked and i was like okay thank you i didn't need to see them fuck no i i and i do know it's it's because jenzy doesn't really need they don't like gratuitous sex scenes and they're changing the game baby absolutely they're like hbo get lost okay i don't know. That's just like, I remember as a child always being like, there's a lot of titties on HBO. And my dad being like, yeah, just don't look. I mean, no, that is true.

Like, I mean, Euphoria is like a whole other beast of like, oh my God. Like, why am I seeing a bunch of these, in theory, teenage dicks? That's the 11th son of it all. Yeah. That's the 11th son of it all. But I... We don't have to get into the 11th son of it all and then even in the first movie i feel like there was like some gratuitous like uh yeah but that was early yeah that was the movie was in the 2000 when did that one drop it was it was you know all the magic mic dates yes it was um gosh 2012 told. Told you Victor knew. 2012, Victor knew.

Victor always knows. Yeah, it was 2012. Like, that one, because, I mean, that movie was just, like, really gritty. You were kind of like, what is going on? Like, they very much evolved from that grittiness to being like, this is a rock. Well, that one was low budget. Yeah, it was low budget. It was very much giving Florida.

It was giving, like, underbelly vibe um but it's like they showed a lot of tits in my opinion if you're gonna be that gritty of a movie you needed to show more dick too sorry it needs to be equal representation this is feminism um i want more dick i'm sorry yeah um but by the end i felt like this movie was tasteful and it was fun like the way they played off of like it was giving you sexiness but it wasn end, I felt like this movie was tasteful and it was fun. Like the way they played off of like, it was giving you sexiness, but it wasn't giving you like, okay, this is going to get weird seeing this with anybody, you know, you could just enjoy it. Definitely.

Yeah. It was a, I gotta say again, a fun romp. And I want to go see it again. And your boyfriends will enjoy it. I'm sorry. Or maybe they won't. But mine did. He was like, yeah, he literally like I was on the phone with him yesterday and he was

like, Becca, that was such a good movie. Like he was like reflect like he went back and watched Magic Mike XXL and the first Magic Mike and then listen to my podcast because he's a supportive king. And he was just like, these are good movies. They're good movies. He was like, these are good movies. These are fucking good movies.'re good movies these are good movies these are fucking good movies and we stand well we'll say number one that's a good movie number two fabulous movie number three great

movie no plot so you know what you take it for what it is but that's what's fun too because sometimes shit is just so serious and you're like i just want to like turn off my brain but not feel like like gross i turn off my brain, but not feel like like gross. I turn off my brain. Like sometimes I feel with reality TV, like I'm like, oh, I've just like internalized like so much misogyny on screen of these men gaslighting these women in their bikinis at the beach. You know? And you feel a little bit better because Channing Tatum, he's like, even in the second movie, he has this like really weird line where she's like, yeah,

if like he was talking to Amber Rose and she's talking about God and he was like, wow, your God's not a woman. And I was like, honestly, that was even before Adi Grande song came out. So like we stand a king.

God is a woman. We stand a God is woman king. All right, guys. And you know, I'm going to end this right now and say tonight I'm going to go see magic Mike live because I'm in Vegas for work. And I figure yes you know what let me just uh convince joelle monique to go to the show please so we're fucking doing it okay so we will report back uh about about

the i can't wait i can't wait to hear it i'm jealous and and more importantly the choreography of course we must focus on the art that is the choreography of these men. The choreography. Okay. And I will report back. But yeah, guys, that has been today's trending episode for International Women's Day. Wednesday, March 8th. Hey, guys, go hug a woman.

With consent. With consent. Or, you know, give your significant other or even just a friend, a woman or a woman identifying person $20 bill. Yeah, literally say buy a woman dinner and expect nothing from them.

Pure reparations. Give them money. Be respectful. Give them flowers. Give them dinner. Give them wine. And then leave them the fuck alone.

Like literally, don't talk to them. And then expect fucking nothing. All right, guys. That's been the episode. We hope you enjoyed it. Have a great Wednesday. I know Jax has about a lot of stuff

at the end of this. I can't remember any of it. So let's be kind to yourself. Be kind to others. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We'll catch you tomorrow. All right, guys. Oh, yes. And tomorrow's schedule, we will return to normal. Sorry we missed some episodes. Look, things happen.

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