The Daily Zeitgeist - Trenders Starring Zeitchael B. Jordan 4/28: Trump's Blue Suit, Judge Hannah Dugan, 'Sinners', 4/20 Easter Egg Hunt

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

In this edition of Trenders, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Trump's blue suit faux pais, selfies with a dead pope, Trump arresting judges now, 'Sinners' topping the box office for t...he second week in a row, the 4/20 Easter Egg Hunt and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think about killing myself and I love myself way more than I love you. Jesus. The most beautiful thoughts are all. And I love myself way more than I love you. Okay, dude. He's so edgy. Oh wait, his brain's literally eating itself. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Dude, the lives, his live stream, I've seen a couple snippets of these live. I don't even know why I keep going back, but it's like the people he's it gets lower and lower. Pretty soon he's going to be hanging around like a bunch of cockroaches that can speak English because it's like Joe's apartment stuff. Yeah, no, truly. Welcome to Joe's apartment. It's our apartment, too. We've been here for over 100 million years.
Starting point is 00:00:42 That will be here long after. Dude, I was fucking with Joe's apartment that is a movie. Yeah, it was like that was the brand. MTV was our a 24. OK. Yeah. MTV Films was fucking with it. Yeah, I like a bunch of. Yeah, I think I was watching it. If MTV Films was fucking with it, what else?
Starting point is 00:01:03 What else are they making? What what did they make? I mean, I know they made that like one reality movie was like Cancun. Didn't they do Freddy got fingered. Was that one of theirs? I think Napoleon Dynamite is technically yet. Napoleon Dynamite is an MTV film.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Orange County is an MTV film. Yeah, my campus is an MTV film. Hustle and Flow is technically an MTV film Orange County is an MTV film. And my own campus is an MTV film. Hustle and Flow is technically an MTV film. Varsity Blues is also an MTV film. Save the Last Dance or MTV film. Even some but had to America, obviously varsity. Yeah, damn, they really were the eight twenty four. Yeah, Lander.
Starting point is 00:01:42 But why are cigarettes run? Tell that to the movie coach? 24 Zoolander. Wow. Cigarettes run tell that 100. Jack, that's the movie coach. Coach Carter. Wow. Election Dave Novotny, bro. Alexander Payne's election. It's like one half election and one half Katy Perry. Part of me. Yeah, right. Hansel and Gretel.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Seriously not do. Freddie got fing and Gretel not do Freddy got fingered they did not do Freddy got fingered no they did freedom writers though Jesus you know I had freedom right you don't get Freddy got fingers but they did free freedom writers MTV films the original a 24 yeah no I think that's actually in a weird way I it kind. Yeah, it was like we were kind of checking for a tang. They made pootie tags. I'm not sad. We had a day.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Radha, let me get a side of. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddy Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast, Dos Amigos. Wilmer's friend and former That 70s Show castmate Topher Grace stops by the Speakeasy for a two-part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times. We were still in that place of like, what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time. But it was like such a perfect golden time.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liss Ortiz, former pro soccer player, and Olympian and like call me, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liss Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian and like Kami, a perreo enthusiast. Come on, who is it?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Our podcast, Hasta Abajo, is where sports, music, and fitness collide. And we cover it all, de arriba hasta abajo. Sit down with real game changers in the sports world, like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me. He said to me, you know, you're not Latina. First of all, what does that mean? My mouth is wide open.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. History makers like the Sukar family, who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy. It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Asta Wajo on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. And the dream season is now complete. The Golden
Starting point is 00:04:23 State Warriors are the 2015 NBA champions. On the new limited podcast series Dub Dynasty, it's been 10 years since their shocking run to a championship. We examine the controversial move that made it possible. It's never a great conversation as a player when you hear that you're being benched. For the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run, listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Courtside with Laura Corenti,
Starting point is 00:04:55 the podcast that's changing the game and breaking down the business of women's sports like never before. I'm Laura, the founder and CEO of Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Your inside source on the biggest deals, power moves and game changers, writing the playbook on all things women's sports. From the heavy hitters in the front office to the powerhouse women on the pitch, we're talking to commissioners, team owners, influential athletes and the investors betting big on
Starting point is 00:05:20 women's sports. We'll break down the numbers, get under the hood and go deep on what's sports. We'll break down the numbers, get under the hood, and go deep on what's next. Women's sports are the moment. So if you're not paying attention, you're already behind. Join me, Courtside, for a front row seat into the making of the business of women's sports. Courtside with Laura Currente is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Courtside with Laura Currente starting April 3rd on the iHeart radio app,
Starting point is 00:05:45 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Hello the internet and welcome to this week trend edition of Dirt Island's iGeist. Yaa. Yaa. And a ya to you as well. And a yaa to you as well.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And a good yaa to you. Miles. Yes, yes. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Miles Gray. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's the episode where we tell you some of the stories that are trending on Monday morning, some of the things that happened over the week and at the end of last week. But first, we like to get to know each other a little bit better by holding hands, staring into one another's eyes and telling each other some things we think are underrated, some things we think are overrated miles. Should we kick it off by telling them?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Should we kick it off old school?? So we kick it off old school. Shall we kick it? Yes. Yes, we shall. That should have been how that song went. What is something miles that you think is underrated? So I just, it's a good one.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I found something out. I had a friend telling me an anecdote about how at his parents house He was there like with his ex-girlfriend and they let the dog out and next thing You know the dog was rolling in a raccoon latrine and I said a what and he said a raccoon latrine And I said what the fuck is a raccoon latrine? So are the sounds that are coming out of your head? Underrated raccoon latrines. Why? Okay, I had no, first of all, I had no idea there was a name for raccoons,
Starting point is 00:07:30 like where they take their shits, but they do. It's a raccoon latrine, and they don't just shit wherever, like some common rat. Raccoons like to go in the same spot over and over and over again until it piles up and becomes a literal health hazard. Like I was reading like you should be absolutely cleaning up raccoon latrines because like there's parasites in their like in their feces that can cause terrible infections if ingested.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And I was just like I could not believe that this is there was something I don't know I just really appreciated the fact that they use a latrine. Or it was- No, I just really appreciate it. When I heard it, I was like, wait, are they like, are they do, are they scooping out a latrine? Cause I'm thinking about like an actual latrine. Like there's a, like some kind of, I know it's a place,
Starting point is 00:08:16 but maybe structure it's dug out. No, it's just the name where their shit pile goes. And then I look into it- It's more like where a dog has a preferred bush. Like when you take a dog on a walk and it's just like, oh, LA, this is my spot. Yeah, but a dog will never just shit in the exact same place over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I mean, some might, but like this is like a very- There's discipline to these rarecum latrines. Eurasian badgers do this. Apparently elephants do this, deer. There's just like a lot of animals that do communal latrines. And I was just like, this is like one of those things you miss in like planet earth.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Where yes, I think it's amazing that the raccoon has posable thumbs and is smart and does all this. But tell us the fact that they all take a dump like in the same spot. Like they're like, no, bro, we shit in the same spot, baby. We'd like to keep this thing separate. I took the kids camping this weekend to the site of the raccoon war recently.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So this was a... A what? The last time that I went camping, I don't know if I told you that our campsite was invaded by like 13 raccoons. Oh, maybe. Were like going into tents and like stealing people. Well, because like some of the people brought,
Starting point is 00:09:29 like left breakfast burritos in their tent. Jeez, yeah. Just loose. Some people, yeah. Well, I mean, that's like the, that's the thing you gotta learn when you are outdoors. So at first I was like, you can't just leave this shit out. Similar group of people,
Starting point is 00:09:41 and we were much more disciplined and hardly any raccoon contact. So you saw, did you see a latrine? Did not see latrines. And this is, this is one that actually comes a week too late because I was just letting the kids go around and play in shit, like piles of shit. I was just like, yeah, I don't know, man, that looks as good as any, anything to play in. Those are some cool rocks you found. Dig around.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, no, it was a successful weekend. Some of the raccoons though, look like they could have been drafted in the NFL draft as like fullbacks. They're like five to 250. Like they just built like a brick shithouse. Arms the size of Christmas hams. Built like a brick shithouse, which is where they would prefer to take their shits because they're sophisticated animals.
Starting point is 00:10:32 My underrated, a couple underrated from this weekend, one was just viewing your town as a tourist would. I had this thought as I was like exploring Tokyo and Seoul that I was like, oh, we should do this in LA. Like we should do just like a walking tour with somebody who knows LA. Like I probably haven't been to like all the museums or restaurants or like night markets or, you know, like street street food places that LA has to offer. And this weekend I took the kids, as part of this camping trip,
Starting point is 00:11:05 we were down in San Pedro. Oh, hell yeah. Took the kids to the USS Iowa. Oh, nice. Don't know if you're familiar. I shot, I was in a recreation, like a Discovery Channel historical recreation about when Navy SEALs killed a bunch of Somali pirates.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And I played a Somali pirate who got killed by a Navy SEAL, and we shot that on the USS Iowa. Wow. And I was acting opposite actual Navy SEALs who were like between tours in Iraq at the time. Jesus Christ. It was the weirdest fucking setup I'd ever been up like, and this was like, I was just getting out,
Starting point is 00:11:41 like I needed work and a guy and it was like, dude, you look like shit. in the background. You could maybe pass for a dark skinned terrorist like person. You look like shit Yeah, no, truly. It was it was anyway, but yeah a fascinating fact You look like a victim of globalism from the global south Step right up. Yeah, but I don't know. The kids had a black, you know, we got to see that there's a gun on that ship that has the record for,
Starting point is 00:12:13 it's the longest rifle shot of all time. It's like a big like deck gun, you know, like it's, you know, visible from a mile away. The gun is huge. It fired a round 27 miles. Wow. Which is and was justifiably killing someone on the other end, I'm sure. I think it was just I think it's just been funsies for for a while now. Just shooting them off into the sea.
Starting point is 00:12:39 That one went 27 miles. And then also Kermit the Frog as pop culture archetype. I want to shout out as underrated that I don't know. There are certain gentle men who I am realizing are like channeling Kermit the Frog like that. Last culture research had Amy Poehler on a recent episode and she was talking about the moment, you know, her moment where she realized culture was for her was Miss Piggy. And and then they started talking about Kermit. And I was like, man, I feel like I know a lot of people
Starting point is 00:13:16 who like they've never mentioned Kermit the Frog to me. But I'm like, this motherfucker love Kermit the Frog, Kermit, this Kermit ass full.ermit is Kermit asshole. And like they're always just gentle, lovely people. Who's a Kermit? I mean, I'm not going to name names. Wow. Oh, who's a celebrity?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Is there a celebrity that you think is a Kermit ass motherfucker? I should have come with examples. So you only have shady examples from your personal life that you don't want to fully say how loud. All right. All right. And we're back. We just took 15 minutes to talk about three people who we know.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This is not a pejorative. This is not a pejorative. Not a pejorative in the least. It's not even again. And I'm sorry that I miscategorized it by even saying this Kermit ass motherfucker because it's not even like that. It's not even that you're upset that somebody's a Kermit.
Starting point is 00:14:13 No, they're they're the best. But it is like a organized. You know, I've talked before about how I think like our version of, you know, how like Freud is like, we're all organized into these Greek myth archetypes. We're all muppets. Yeah, we're all muppets or just like various characters, you know, icons. And I think Kermit is one of those icons that probably has a sizable portion of the population behind him.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, because I mean, I guess it is one of those things because I was always like, yeah, I felt like as a kid, I was like, bro, I bro, I fuck with curb Kermit was my favorite. Yeah but I yeah, I don't know I I'll come up with some celebrities Like gang hit hit us with any celebrities or movie characters you think are very Kermit II But yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah got that Kermit in them. Yeah Thing that's a good staple says you are a nice boy. That's good. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's sincere. You want that, Miles, what is something you think is overrated? Fuck, man. Chicken breast. And I've been saying this for a long time. Come on, man. It is favorite. That's my favorite part of the chicken. It is now delicious. That's my favorite part of the chicken. It is now delicious fucking Official. Yeah, okay. No, we are suck shit. I know but I've been look I've been saying I'm all about dark meat supremacy
Starting point is 00:15:34 I've been saying dark meat is the best part of the chicken. It's juicy. You are fucking is you can't overcook it I mean you can but you'd have to do a really fucking hard side a lot Yeah to dry out a thigh. Like even when it's really good. And with the skin on, when you cook that in the pan, get that crispy anyway. So I've always. But now I'm reading that the people have accepted now that chicken thighs are better and it's being reflected in the prices.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Thighs are now like going up and up in price and breasts are going down. And what used to be the low price secret for people who know good food is now becoming like the de facto official best part of the chicken. And now this is, it is now being reflected. I just saw an article about how the prices have been declining in breast meat and going up for thigh meat and I'm just like, wow, wow, here we are, here we are. Either way, it's still cheaper to butcher your own bird, not butcher your own bird, but like get a half chicken or get a whole chicken and then break that down yourself. That's still, like I said, I think a few weeks ago, just get the quarter parts or whatever and do the work to separate the pieces yourself because you will save money.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But I just couldn't believe that we are now like officially, the chicken breast era is over. It's like when we went from the boob era to the butt era, we're fully in the butt era now. Kind of simultaneous. I mean, it's a lagging indicator, I guess, the chicken. But yeah, we have made the same move with, you know, body archetypes and now with our our favorite chicken pieces. Yeah. So now we're going to need some people coming up with like
Starting point is 00:17:15 hints for how to cook breasts that don't taste like shit. You just have to cook it really well or like brine it and then brine it. Yeah. And then like do a sous vide or grill. That's the times I've had the most succulent, delicious chicken breast. But God damn, you need you need all the tricks in the book. You need it's like master level cooking to not fuck up a chicken breast. Yeah. Yeah. Just brine it, I guess. But anyway, it was just interesting to see, like we can now officially say
Starting point is 00:17:41 chicken breasts are overrated. We America has now crossed over to thigh. It's thigh time. We're thigh. We're a nation of thymine. All right. So my overrated is just whatever you think everyone is talking about on social media, just like whatever any I, so on the tour of the USS Iowa, we had a very
Starting point is 00:18:02 patient tour guide who kept like talking about. He's like, people on social media will tell you that the USS Iowa class battleships wouldn't hold up in modern warfare. And like he kept like three times, he like raised these like debates that are happening. He assumed are happening on our social media as well as his. He's like, yeah, I fuck with the discourse. And like, it's just and it's understandable, you know, that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's what his algorithm is feeding him. And so he assumes that it's like out there, you know, it's a very confusing time to be like not a completely media savvy Person, you know, like it's I love that he grew up in a world of you know, he was a little older You know, he grew up in the world of like a monoculture. He's giving tours of decommissioned battleships I know That's a little bit older. That's a fucking 17 year old. It's just like, you know, doing it for the love of the game.
Starting point is 00:19:11 They just haven't, I don't know. We had a story last week about how Gen Z is supposedly more gullible than Boomers and I don't know what that means. Yeah, everyone. But just like, yeah, they haven't been able to make the shift from monoculture to what we're working with now. And so now everybody in of a certain generation, and I think to a lesser extent, like a lot of like just everybody is walking around with warped images of what the world actually gives a fuck about. You know, totally, totally.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I mean, I get to like, it makes me think of like the Dan versus Dave thing from the 1992 Olympics. Where they're like, which decathlete's gonna do it? And that was, I feel like that was the monoculture too at the time, like a lot of people were like, dude, Dan or Dave. Yeah, and one of them didn't make it and the other came in 10th.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Dude, you guys sucked shit. I remember it was so bad. But anyway, I just think of like, yeah, those days are over. Like, everyone is purely in their own world. But hey, I'd love to be on that end of social media where people are talking shit about the Iowa class battleships. I know, I kind of want to go dig into that so that my algorithm changes to focusing on that ship. Dad, I bet that's pretty Nazi adjacent stuff to eventually hardcore debate.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Those guys are so interested in the SS. They would have loved to tour Harlan Crowe's house. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news stories. We'll be right back. and we'll come back and talk about some news stories. We'll be right back. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddy Rodriguez welcome another amigo
Starting point is 00:20:54 to their podcast Dose Amigos. Wilmer's friend and former That 70 Show cast mate, Topher Grace stops by the speakeasy for a two-part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times. We were still in that place of like, what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like such a perfect golden time. Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur, and almost most importantly, a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian and like Kami, a perreo enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Come on, who is it? Our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music, and fitness collide, and we cover it all, de arriba hasta abajo. Sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me he said to me you know you're not Latina. First of all what is that? I'm out this light open. Yeah. History makers like the Sucar family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:22:07 It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Hasta Lajo on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. This is Courtside with Laura Corenti, the podcast that's changing the game and breaking down the business of women's sports
Starting point is 00:22:32 like never before. I'm Laura, the founder and CEO of Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment, your inside source on the biggest deals, power moves, and game changers, writing the playbook on all things women's sports. From the heavy hitters in the front office to the powerhouse women on the pitch, we're talking to commissioners, team owners, influential athletes,
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Starting point is 00:23:22 Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. And the dream season is now complete. The Golden State Warriors are the 2015 NBA champions. On the new limited podcast series Dub Dynasty, it's been 10 years since their shocking run to a championship. We examine the controversial move that made it possible. It's never a great conversation as a player when you hear that you're being benched. For the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10-year run, listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And more than a decade after Obama's tan suit gate. You remember suit gate? Oh yeah. What the fuck is this guy wearing? Trump, and this is the biggest story of the weekend and the worst thing that he did. He has his own suit gate. No, this is a dumb story, but it is, you know, sure he's tanking the economy and arresting judges
Starting point is 00:24:35 who oppose his fascist whims, which we'll get to in a second, but look at the suit he wore to the Pope's funeral. Check out this asshole. Fucking blue. Yeah, it was, man, this was a focus of, speaking of your social media bubbles, there were a lot of people being like,
Starting point is 00:24:51 way to show a cropped photo, why don't you zoom out and show the whole thing? And people were like altering the color to make it look like other people were wearing blue suits to try and make this like a non thing. And then there were definitely people in Navy suits, like dark, like dark blue, but Trump was definitely in some like,
Starting point is 00:25:10 fuck a dress code. That was his whole thing. I mean, whatever. I don't know what they expected from him. He doesn't respect anything. He, yeah, it was more like less Navy close. It was between Navy and Royal. It was like, if you looked at a picture of the whole group,
Starting point is 00:25:28 of the whole crowd, it did pop out. And it was my first thought, even before seeing people freaking out about it, I was like, damn, that's pretty, pretty not black for a suit at a funeral. I wanna be charitable here, but I guess so. We can call that, we'll call that blackish. Yeah, favorite show.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But it wasn't that. But yeah, like he didn't wear a black tie, didn't, you know, he didn't do any of the shit. And so people were mad, I don't know. Who really gives a shit? People were like, and we know he owns a black suit because he wore one to Jimmy Carter's funeral. It's like, yeah, and also because he's the fucking president of the United States. It's not like he owns a black suit.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's not a 17 year old who showed up late to graduation thing. We're like, and we know he owns it. He wore one to prom. Yeah. But he was seated in the first row, got kind of low key, dunked on during the eulogy when one of the cardinals, the cardinal who was giving the eulogy reference, how the pope asked people to build bridges, not walls. So it was, oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, oh, this fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Whoa. Grata, basically. OK, I mean, I don't know if this is part of it. He definitely does seem like he is in a I'm past politics. I no longer need to do the political thing, you know, and think about like 60 million Catholics in America because you know, I'm an American badass. I feel like like he doesn't I don't know. I think the reason that other presidents wouldn't have done that is Because you don't want to offend Catholics and he just doesn't give a fuck. You know? But even then it's just like,
Starting point is 00:27:26 he just doesn't give a fuck across the board. It's not even like, that's not even his mind. It's like, so the dress code is to wear black. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I'm wearing this fucking cobalt blue suit. I appreciate that because it's entertaining. And also I don't see the possible upside of him. Like he is still a politician.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I don't know if we'll ever have elections again, but I don't see the upside of adopting a like, fuck the Pope because he was mean to me stance, you know? Like, I don't know. He has better political instincts than I've given him credit for in the past, but I don't know about this one. On the other hand, he has, this is the furthest a president has ever been underwater in terms
Starting point is 00:28:13 of approval a hundred days into his term. So. Yeah, yeah. All bad, all bad. I don't know. I mean, it's like his instincts, they only, it's just like broken clock that occasionally the hands of the clock move to be the right time and then Subsequently happen to be the right time just because the passage of time. Yeah, but a lot of people got pissed
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't know at the same time It's like why does he even like he's only there because he wants to be like and you see me I was Jack Nicholson at the Pope front row at the lake show The Jack Nicholson of Pope Funerals. Yeah, exactly. They call me your out there. You know, the lady that sits next to Lou Adler. That was me.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Lou Adler. What a what a run he's had. Also, just in terms of classy things people were doing next to the Pope's body. A big trend over the weekend was people snapping selfies with the Pope. So you could you could actually like there was just a long line where you could walk up and like stand next to the Pope's dead body. Like it was the Mona Lisa. Yeah. Flick it up with a corpse. Why not?
Starting point is 00:29:21 And yeah, everybody was flicking it up. And that must be like fun when you're just, you're like, we're taking a little trip. We're a trip in Rome and it's like the Pope, dude, should we just go by the Vatican and go slick it up with the Pope's body? Yeah. See the Pope's dead body. Yeah. Great. Great. Do it. This is the first Pope death of the smartphone era. So, you know, they weren't ready. I mean, they did say, like you. They said, let me see their official guidance on the matter.
Starting point is 00:29:54 They told the media visitors are invited not to take photos. Because it would be in not in the best of taste. When you say Invited to not yeah invited not to yeah Wow, but what just say Visitors are required or you know be use some stronger language like we invite you to not do that Yeah, they're queuing for hours praying and paying their respects, but taking pictures is not in the best of taste I feel like I feel like the next papal administration needs to be like mean pope, you know, no more passive aggressive like bridges, not walls, like symbolic shit.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I think he needs to go full like get a load of this clown. Yeah. Oh, this guy's going to be the Satan's bitch down in hell. The way he's acting. Whoa. You know, like get back to brass tacksacks the whole thing was about scaring the fuck out of people I thought with Catholicism So turn it up turn it on people. Why not? I mean, it's not what I'm saying, but I'm sure the people that believe They'll be shook. Yeah and photos also as Brian pointed out are a sin, you know that that they capture your soul. And that's not cool. Is that Catholicism or is that just what people
Starting point is 00:31:10 used to believe in like the 1600s? Oh, right, early thoughts of what a photo was, I'm sure. You're gonna be trapped in there, man. You sure about that? You sure you wanna do that? They got little popes in their phones now. What's gonna happen to a soul? Also, the media was quick to condemn the selfies,
Starting point is 00:31:36 but then reprint them just with the faces blurred out. Of course, yeah. It's who cares, you know? Unless you're going to hell, stop talking about it. And if you're going to hell, tell people. That's right. That's where I'm at. One Instagram person posted a photo of himself smiling, which I kind of respect.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Like if you're going to do the. Don't do a song. Selfie. Don't write. Like just you with the post with like the sad face emoji. I feel like probably was happening a lot No Alright, let's talk about the we've reached the arresting judges phase of the dictatorship Yeah, yeah, probably heard by now the judge Hannah Dugan at this point Thanks to cash Patel's post on X, the official social media app for,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I mean, it's the everything app. So, overthrowing the judiciary is, it counts. That's implied obviously. Yeah, of course. So, basically what happened, ICE agents showed up at a courthouse to arrest someone who was at a hearing for battery charges. Dugan, or Dugan, is it? Do we know? However you want it. Yeah, you know. Dugan called it absurd and said the ICE agents needed a judiciary warrant. Yeah, because they only had an administrative warrant.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Rules. And the chief judge claimed that there was a policy in the works about where in the courthouse ICE agents could arrest people and At that point arrest could only be made in public areas like hallways. So she spoke with federal agents They were apparently assholes. And so she did not send this person directly out into their clutches to send them a different Private way out. Well, they said it them a different private way out. Well, they said it was a different door, but it led to a public hallway. Yeah. So it's still not as if you getting like rushed out
Starting point is 00:33:34 of the show like Elvis at the end of the night. Right. It was just like, you could use this other door that leads to a publicly accessible hallway. At least that felt like that was in the complaint. Right. And everything was public at that point. like then got into an elevator with an agent who just could have arrested him there, did nothing, then he walked out and then they're like oh don't let him get away and then when I
Starting point is 00:33:56 act like this judge was actually trying to like obstruct something very very like I mean it like even when you read it it's like it sounds like you had plenty of opportunities to take him. You just did it until he was on the street and then took off. Yeah, it it does. Like their version of things implies that she was like, stand on that X right there and then pulled a lever that sent him down an escape chute. Right. Yeah, she was just like, no, why don't you go out this this way? And yeah, so it's all, you know, this is all happening in the context that we're all waiting to see whether or not Trump is going to stand down
Starting point is 00:34:32 against court orders that are saying he can't do a bunch of the kidnappings that he's doing right now. And it seems to be the only institution in the country that is standing against him at the moment. At least within the government. Yeah. Yeah. So it does, you know, it makes us, it makes sense that he'd make a spectacle of arresting a judge for essentially insubordination.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I mean, when you look at kind of the events of last week, it was all ramping up to being like Trump's Visibly looks less and less powerful like in terms of like losing court cases pulling numbers going down and Yeah, this felt very much like a reaction to all of that or the perception that he had to like reassert that he's like No, I'm in control. I will now He'd think they perp walked this judge through the fucking courthouse. Like all of this was to just create the visuals to be like, this is what will happen if you go against me.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Right. Especially to other judges. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like normally for something like this where it's not a criminal is being suspected of or somebody who's being suspected of a violent act,
Starting point is 00:35:47 they're not arresting them at all. But yeah, like you said, in this case, it was done for spectacle. It was done to send a message to other judges, and maybe the Supreme Court, I don't know. Yeah, again, this is also, the other thing is too, everything is about the optics, because even for how wild everything is going,
Starting point is 00:36:07 Trump is still not deporting people at the rate Joe Biden was. And I would say like, Joe Biden's the king of deportations. But all that to say is they want this perception to be like, we're even, we're on top of this, we're getting everybody out. And it's not, it's sloppy and it's violent and it's cruel. And that's all it is.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And that's really the point. It's really not about's sloppy and it's violent and it's cruel. And that's all it is. And that's really the point. It's really not about whatever the perceived quote unquote efficiency is of disappearing people, but purely about making people feel as much fear as possible at every level and that's all. Yeah, I think it's about that. I think it's about doing the thing, but also about they're doing things to get, the fact that this is a story is not an accident.
Starting point is 00:36:48 They wanted this story. Yeah, for this, yeah, for sure, for sure. But they don't, I'm sure they would not want the story out that Joe Biden was somehow better than he was at being a fool to immigrants. Also Joe Biden was smuggled in to do an appearance at Harvard, I think at end of last week or in the middle of last week, and at one point dropped an ice cream. Couldn't hold on to his ice cream.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Also confused, I think, Iraq and Russia and had to be corrected and also dropped an ice cream bar that he was holding. So things are going good there. Oh man. Why do we, the conspiracy to take him out of the running is fucked up. Wasn't him in the ice cream, remember? Wasn't that that thing with Seth Meyers?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Remember they were having ice cream and they were trying to talk about the Gazes? He loves ice cream, like that's always been, that's like his main food group. So does Nancy Pelosi. Yeah. She's like has chocolate ice cream. They like little treats, you know? They need little treats at the end of the day.
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Starting point is 00:41:20 So a lot of people were, especially the people at the So a lot of people were, especially the people at the industry rag variety were looking at the second weekend for the movie Sinners, which was this past weekend. You know, they had come out and they were like this movie. Yeah, it's doing well. It's first weekend. Barely that's not going to be a road. It's got a lot of work left to do if it wants to be profitable. Just like managed to put a sour tone on something that was basically like this.
Starting point is 00:41:55 This movie is beating all of our expectations at a time when the theatrical film going experiences in like desperate need of success. And yes, good, good news. They were like, no, nobody can say why, because they weren't that hard on Quentin Tarantino's movie. But Ryan Coogler, for whatever reason, they did not did not like this news. Anyways, you know, would have been probably welcome news for them if sinners fell off.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Like a lot of horror movies do a lot of horror movies don't necessarily hold that well. And you know, movies that beat expectations in the first weekend, a lot of times it's like, well, all the people we were expecting to see the movie have seen the movie. And so it falls off big in the second weekend this time. However Sinners second weekend was historically Successful like it's first weekend was already historically successful and they were like, yeah, whatever Second weekend it made around 42 million domestically, which is barely a drop from last week's 48 million
Starting point is 00:43:05 around 42 million domestically, which is barely a drop from last week's 48 million. Usually like a typical movie would go from like 48 million down to like, you know, 22 would be like a decent hold for a second weekend for like a big box office movie. This one went down just 6 million. It's the smallest second weekend decline for a movie that made more than 40 million dollars since Avatar in 2009. Since freaking Avatar? Since fucking Avatar. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Go home, Avatar. Yep. Yep. It is the smallest decline ever for an R-rated horror movie. shit, eat shit variety, eat shit. All these people who are trying to fucking throw dirt on this project and question Ryan Coogler's ability to make a film that people want to see. I couldn't even fucking see it this weekend because every show was sold out or nearly sold out, where it's like, I mean, you like for, you know, my schedule and like when I could get child care, could not find a time to see it unless I wanted to sit in the front row.
Starting point is 00:44:07 So I was like, yeah, this is, like an hour off the way in another week, at least to find a time when it gets a little bit more flexible. I'm not surprised because it's, this is just everyone outside of like, the industry rags, people check for Ryan Coogler movies. It's just, it is what it is, regardless of what the press is saying.
Starting point is 00:44:27 So I'm glad they're having this moment. Or at least some of the industry rags are like, damn, this is good. Well, Variety seems probably doubling down and it's no, it's there. Well, whatever. Yeah, fine. Yeah, I mean, it seems like again, like the movie was incredibly successful compared to Quentin Tarantino's movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which was on way more screens. So again, like even though this movie is incredibly successful, they're not putting it on enough screens. It's like on every two few screens and nobody can go like people are gonna have to wait to see it.
Starting point is 00:45:04 When I went to try and get A ticket I was like wait they re-released episode 3 I was like why the fuck is that taking up space on the in the fucking theater and then the accountant to Bernthal and Affleck I'm like what the fuck miss me with this no yeah, so that's what the accountant to came in third behind sinners and a re-release of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith. Oh, it was behind Star Wars. Star bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 The Revenge of the Sith apparently did incredibly well. A fact that Variety probably has no problem being excited about because that also means good news for studios where they can just re-release stuff. They don't even need to make new movies, you know? I know, now we're just gonna have 20, every year, just 20th anniversary re-releases, 30th anniversary re-releases, sure, sure. Well, I'm glad that the Accountant 2 didn't even,
Starting point is 00:46:00 because they were really, I remember last week, they were saying like, it'll be close between sinners and accountant two where like most people who are realistic are like sinners might probably outdo you think you made a lot of money sinners this guy counts money for a fucking living yeah all right and it's got hero cop actor john bernthal in it. Good fucking luck. Favorite podcast host, John Bernthal. But yeah, it's breaking all sorts of records and The Hollywood Reporter, which is like the other, it's like Variety and The Hollywood Reporter are the two. Hollywood Reporter, by the way,
Starting point is 00:46:37 has like some truly monstrous stories that are about Palestine and Israel and stuff like that. But variety to varieties also the doing a lot of weird. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But the Hollywood reporter said that some naysayers label it a money loser even before it had a chance to bear its teeth. And there are articles talking about how much money it made. But yeah, even when talking shit, they have to like make sure
Starting point is 00:47:05 they get a dumb pun in there. Yeah. Baffo punning. Hollywood reporter. No, I guess, yeah, something with fangs would have been too too much. So bear its teeth. I feel like that's the elegant one, I guess.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Flash its fangs. Yeah, bear its teeth is just I don't know. It's fine. But yeah, there's still, Variety released an article this weekend for their VIP paywall section claiming that there are too many horror movies scheduled for 2025. And one of the horror movies they have in the image is Sinners. And again, this is coming out the week after centers broke all sorts of box office records. They're like, you hate black people.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Right. This is like so exhausting to try and talk around it in ways that don't even make sense. Like there's actually two. The thing. This is what it says. Horror overkill. Too many scary movies set for 2025. Too many scary movies.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Are you fucking serious? This is like, these are the proportion for budget to profit. This is like the shit studios love is horror fucking movies. Yeah, horror movies. You can spend very little and make a ton. So now it's like, oh. Yeah, they're the most profitable movie genre. Like they, a third they're the most profitable movie genre. Like they, a third of the 50 most profitable movies
Starting point is 00:48:29 in Hollywood history are horror. That's not the highest grossing. It's the ones that had the biggest difference between, you know, what they spent and what they made. Yeah, and there's too many scary movies. Hard not to notice that they weren't complaining about horror movies being a problem before. But next you're going to be like, there's too many scary directors, you know, whatever
Starting point is 00:48:50 the fuck they're going to say. Too many scary directors walking around this town with just a picture of Ryan Coogler spikily. Ryan Coogler is, he has to go through so much shit. I just think about that time they called the cops on him when he was trying to get a cash withdrawal out of a bank because it was like 10 grand and the cops like hemmed him up. I'm like, man, just leave this fucking guy alone. Leave us alone. Or let him fucking do his thing.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Like this is, I'd love to hear the studio that put it out like maybe have some kind of defense or push back to like this like weird narrative they're trying to get the catch. But they're the ones who probably pushed the story in the first place. They're like, God, we really fucked up with this deal. I mean, it's making us money, but he's going to get the ownership. Yeah. They like, they can't even feel good about the Star Wars re-release doing well, because in the 25 year anniversary when Ryan Coogler re-releases it, they don't get any of that money because he's going to own it at
Starting point is 00:49:50 that point. A fact that Variety was like, it's the death of the studio system, even though Quentin Tarantino got the same deal. And everyone's like, no, that makes sense for him. I kind of like that for him. And also you look at the consistency of Ryan Coogler's shit. It's, it's, it's up, it's, it's consistent. It's not like he makes shitty movies. Like it has like terrible swings in a miss. Like when he's really into something, like those films come out really well.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. I mean, it makes sense for Tarantino though, you know? But like this guy, I don't know. It's like he hasn't earned it or something. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. He's just trying to do it off. He's just trying to do it off raw talent. Yeah, he's got a lot of raw talent, Miles. He's not getting in there working hard.
Starting point is 00:50:33 You know what I mean? Got that work ethic. Are we talking about NBA players now? What are you fucking saying? Hey, all I'm saying is if I took that many shots, I'd score 30 a game too. What are you talking about? Well, like shots and like when you're making a movie, you have to take shots. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm just saying guys at Ball Hog. This is how they attack Michael Jordan for being too good. If you ask me, a guy's a bit of a hot dog. And then I do just want to note some late breaking news on. So I feel like there was a missed opportunity. Easter and 420 happened on the same day. I wore my dream blunt rotation t-shirt that had the last supper on it. I did my part.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Miles did his part. But like there was not a massive like weed stir, like put, I don't know, like whatever you want to call it. Like it could have been something. It could have been the Barbenheimer of getting high and eating at all you can eat buffets. That weekend they re-released Passion of the Christ and half-baked. You're like, dude, you're doing Weedster Sunday?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah. But anyways, one guy besides Miles was up to the task. A hero in Texas staged an Easter egg hunt for plastic eggs full of weed and Honestly like how was this not happening everywhere, but right he posted clues on Facebook and provided hints to people he sold to and Now the cops are looking for him because that was a bad idea. You cannot, you can't be doing California behavior in Texas. Nah, yeah. You cannot,
Starting point is 00:52:13 you're posting on Facebook to your custies about where the shit's at that you sold. Are you? I didn't even have to take a class to learn how to use Facebook to catch people like they're already on Facebook posting about how hard their job is and how they how they got in a car that once had fentanyl and it almost killed them like That's Facebook is where they hang but this is that's where you're posting That's wild to me is that they the police are like the suspect posted four photos on Facebook showing each location as hints to locate the eggs. He also posted a photo of five plastic eggs in the seat of a vehicle. Officers found four eggs and believed he had not placed a fifth. So the cops were doing the scavenger hunt better than the customers. Like y'all, you have to, they're on Facebook. They're on Facebook. Please. And they found your eggs.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And they were on it quicker. Like the idea that this was like a thing where like they got tipped off. I feel like they might have been on to this guy before. Yeah, because they got the eggs before anybody got the eggs. Like, I feel like I don't know, either the guys customers were busy getting high on Easter or they just were like, this is a bad idea. Why is he posting this on Facebook? Well, you do this in a signal chat.
Starting point is 00:53:31 This feels like the first act of like a low stakes breaking bad where like a high school English teacher or like an elementary school teacher decides to sell weed. And it's like, let me make it fun for me. It's fun for the kid. OK, I'm going to put eggs around. It was a preschool teacher. And you can find them around everywhere and the cops are like hold on This motherfucker is just posting it on Facebook and then they get caught in like shit run for your life
Starting point is 00:53:55 But yeah, good luck good luck to I feel but man those people are like why why would I bro? I just give me my weed. I don't want to fucking go find it I am a mystical, magical, I'm a buddy. All right. Those are some of the things that are happening on this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccines while
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