The Daily Zeitgeist - Trending At The US Open: Tennis In The Zeitgeist 

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

In this special holiday episode, Jack and special guest co-host Anna Hosnieh are at the U.S. Open to talks all things tennis! They discuss how tennis has taken over the zeitgeist, the best tennis foll...ows on social media, tennis fashion, 'Challengers' and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, the internet, and welcome to a very special holiday episode of Dirty Reza Geist. It is, this is, this is kind of a weird one. So, a super producer Ana Hosni and I recorded a live episode at the U.S. Open, like on a big stage right next to Arthur Ash Stadium. It was a lot of fun to be at the U.S. Open. It was, you know, An interesting crowd. You know, people were there to see tennis, and then the daily zeitgeist was happening for them, a little kind of tennis-focused one. So that's what you're about to hear.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I do really think that tennis is super interesting. Tennis's relationship to the zeitgeist. We'll talk about challengers and fashion and some of those things. Just generally, I feel like, you know, as we've talked about a lot recently on the show, I'm a big believer in the power of movies. Is there a sport that has a better metacritic score than tennis? Like, tennis is just feels very prestige. Like, you know, basketball is my other favorite sport.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Basketball has, you know, it has solid movies like, you know, blue chips and Hoosiers, but like it's got a lot of air buds and, you know, Teen Wolf may be a movie that I consider to be, you know, one of the great films of all time. But I don't think most people consider it to be one. of the great films. Whereas, like, tennis is prestige. Tennis is, like, challengers and match point. And, like, there's this Hitchcock movie, Strangers on a train that is, like, based in the world of tennis and has this famous shot where, like, the heads, like, everybody's watching, like, the shot is of a crowd watching a tennis match. And everybody's, like,
Starting point is 00:01:49 following the ball, except for this one guy is, like, just looking straight forward. And it's super creepy. And I don't know. There's, like, something, a King Richard, obviously, obviously one best actor. Royal Tenenbaum's has one of my, one of my favorite and most memorable scenes from that is, I think, Richie's meltdown at the U.S. Open. But anyways, it just feels like tennis has this like elevated prestige aspect to it. And yeah, we'll talk about the Brian brothers, who are, you know, we've recently covered the very interesting story of Anne Landers and Dear Abbey that was, you know, covered. on American hysteria, but just, like, these are identical twins who just got inducted into the
Starting point is 00:02:34 Hall of Fame who have that, like, connection. That's, that's so interesting, that, like, identical twin connection. But, like, you know, a thing that I've made my underrated recently is, like, the tennis player coach dynamic, like, the way that players will, like, when they mess up, they will look at their coaches. Like, they'll miss hit it. And then they will look at look at their coach and be like, what was that? And it's just, and like everybody accepts it. It's this like interesting psychological dynamic that I'm obsessed with where like everybody, like obviously the physics of the situation would suggest that the coach didn't just
Starting point is 00:03:14 miss hit that shot and the logic would suggest the coach didn't tell them in the second set. I want you to miss hit this. Like the player made a mistake. But like the metaphysics and the psychology of the situation, everyone's just like, yeah, no, they need that the play like this player needs to have someone else they can blame besides themselves out there. Um, and the coaches just like kind of sit there and take it as like part of their job. Um, so anyway, it's, it's a very interesting sport. Um, we were lucky enough to like go to, uh,
Starting point is 00:03:43 one of the main events of tennis and, uh, you know, get to hang out and, uh, drink in the atmosphere. So you're about to hear, uh, it was like kind of a quick trending episode up on a big stage. at the U.S. Open, thanks to the U.S.TA for letting us do this. It was super fun. It was always fun to have Ana Hosnier back on the show. And yeah, without further ado, here is a trending episode of the Daily zeitgeist that we recorded at the U.S. Open about a week ago. Thanks. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Ryder Strong.
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Starting point is 00:08:34 My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm one of the co-hosts of the Daily Zekegeist. I've recently become obsessed with tennis. This is our executive producer, co-founder of the show, Anna Hosniy. Hello. Hey. Thanks for being here. Anna, one of the most tennis-obsessed human beings
Starting point is 00:08:55 that I am aware of. Yes, I do love tennis, and I love to watch tennis, and I love to play tennis. And who is your game most reminiscent of, would you say? My game is probably most reminiscent of Gael Monfields, probably because I'm older. But I honestly, I really wish I was as agile as him, because he is incredible that he continues to come out at every tournament and play. And really, even when he gets injured, he just keeps. keeps going, and I love that about him.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. He's an incredible, incredible athlete. I tried to do the jumping backhand, like the jackknife backhand that Carlos Alcarez does because my wife told me that she thought it was hot that he could do that, and I threw out my back. Oh, wow. But, yeah, I model my game after him and that I do the quiet, like, little fist bump if I actually get the ball in the court, which is rarely.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But, all right. So the daily zeitgeist. is a show where we talk about what is happening. Do people know what zeitgeist means? It's German for time ghosts, the spirit of the time. So it's like the ideas, you know, the culture that is happening in the moment. And typically on our show, we don't talk that much about sports because a lot of our fans are the, oh, you're doing a sports ball type of people.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Sure. And I'm tired of pretending tennis is not part of the zeitgeist. Tennis is a huge part of the zeitgeist right now. It really is. So we're going to talk about that. I'm done pretending. We're doing a sports ball today. We're talking about tennis and its role in the zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And specifically, like, it seems like it's exploding right now, I feel like. It is. It's everywhere. More now than ever. I feel like you talk to any. anybody on the streets of New York about the U.S. Open. They're not just like, oh, yeah, the open's happening. They know the storylines. They know the players. Yeah, they know the backstory. So why do we think that is happening? Why is tennis popping off in such a major way
Starting point is 00:11:10 right now, would you say? I have a theory that it's partially challengers. Sure. Yes, that movie was huge. People loved it. Has anybody seen challengers? Any challenges fans? out there. And also, not just standard media, but social media. Have you guys heard about social media? People follow people on
Starting point is 00:11:35 social media. And the players are amazing follows. They're like great personalities. So we're going to talk about that, talk about some of the best follows on social media. And we're going to ask you who your favorite
Starting point is 00:11:51 follows are on social media. So stick around for that. But first of all, so we did Google, why tennis so popular? Because I'm good at Google. I Google why tennis so popular. And their little like AI explanation was partially challengers, partially the pandemic, because it's like the most. It's a social distancing sport.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It is like by definition social distance unless you like both come to the net at once, which I'm not fast enough to do that. So my reflexes aren't quite there to, be like volley on volley. Of course. Although that is how Challenger's ended. And then Google also said the reason tennis is popular is because the ratings are going up because I think AI hasn't quite figured out how cause and effect works quite yet.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I think the ratings are going up before it because tennis is more popular. And then Challenges is on the list. Well, a movie with Zendaya in it is obviously going to bring that sport to the general public. helpful and also great outfits great outfits the style the fashion and it like that's why it makes sense to have a movie about tennis with zendaya in it because she tennis players look great and just like wear great fashion so it's like it reflects reality yeah yeah yeah and also i say zendaya and you say zendaya isn't that interesting let's call the whole thing off right broadway reference um course all right Should we talk challengers?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Sure. Let's talk about challengers. Also, people may be wondering why I'm wearing tennis whites. First of all, it's the open, so you never know. Second of all, I wanted to trick people into thinking I was a tennis player. So, like, while you're walking by the stage, you'd be like, oh, that's someone. I'm not. I'm a podcast host, but we'll see how many people we can actually trick during the course of this recording.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, good luck. I know, Anna was like, nobody's going to believe that you have gray hair. What are you talking about? but anyways yeah i'm larping right now but you got don't tell anybody that all right challengers oh wait let me get everybody on my side how great is pickleball you guys oh my god really just that hollow dinking sound and the sound of like yeah okay are you a pickleball do you pick do you pickleball i don't play it regularly i have played it and i will say though having a tennis background makes it so much easier to play pickleball.
Starting point is 00:14:21 But if you ever try and slice a pickleball, like, plastic ball, it's pretty fun. It doesn't work well, but it's fun to try. No, you can't put a spin on it. You just, like, hit it as hard as you can. You cannot get any spin on that. I'm, like, so bad at tennis after I play a pickleball. But we have somebody here who's actually showing us how it's done, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Pickleball is popular, but, like, also. So, like, pickleball's at a place in the zeitgeist where it's, like, a punchline on social media, I feel like, like people, I was assuming everybody would be like, boo, pickleball. But everyone was like, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I mean, it's, it has a very, it's easy to get started. Right. It's not as hard to learn to play like tennis can be. Yeah, yeah. um tennis is brutal just like trying to learn it but i i also feel like one of the reasons tennis
Starting point is 00:15:18 is like so in the zeit guys right now is because it's still so funny even when you're terrible like i'm so bad but i still love playing you're actually not that bad i've seen you play before but i think you also have a background you've only seen me do live ball that's true the serve is uh i am worried about your serve we're all worried about your serve we're all super worried about your All right. Challengers, though. I do want to talk about that because I wanted to, I was like, all right, challengers is a reason that tennis got more popular, right? So I looked into like how challengers happened, like why they decided to make a movie about tennis. And it actually started here in the U.S. Open Final, 2018, between Serena and Naomi, where there was like the call about Serena getting coaching, right? Which very controversial. We don't need to like. get into all that. But the writer saw that.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It was like, it's so interesting that there's this, like, communication happening between the player and the coach. Like, you have this person who's, like, the only person in the stadium who is, like, wants you to win as much as you do, but they can't, like, communicate with you. And then, like, now they're, I guess, allowed to communicate. Yeah. The communication between the players and the coaches is, like, so. It's just glances and sort of other glances of, like, looking at you,
Starting point is 00:16:43 looking at a place on the court, looking back at you. It has to be so subtle. It's like so cinematic. Yeah. Like that's what he was saying. He was saying, so the idea that he started with was the ball in the neck of the racket. Like that gesture that happens at the beginning and the end and like communicates all this information. The entire drama of the movie.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah, yeah. He was like, he started with that and like wrote it outward from there. And then from the U.S. Open final, like, watching that, he became so obsessed with tennis that, like, he couldn't get his fix just from open matches. And so he, like, started watching challengers matches. And that's when he... That's where challengers was born. Yeah, that's where challengers was born. So, like, the things that are cool about tennis, like, the intimacy that you have with the players, you know, the, like, you're seeing them in these still moments.
Starting point is 00:17:38 like right before they do something incredibly athletic. So you're like, there's this intimacy here that is what caused him to write the movie. So it's almost like tennis caused challengers. Like tennis was already cool and challengers just noticed it more so than like challengers made tennis cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So it's like the cause and effect thing again. We're mixing up cause and effect, I feel like. But I honestly, I found that tennis was already in the zeitgeist before challengers. And then Challenger's just sort of more heightened, a more social, fashionable aspect of it, if you were. Right. Yeah, you couldn't have one with a year. Because that was like the first movie, I feel like when I went to the theater to watch it,
Starting point is 00:18:19 like people were dressed up in their best tennis gear, their best tennis dresses or their tennis whites to see this movie. I mean, look at the people here. Like, everybody looks great. Like people are coming looking good to a tennis match. You go to like a Lakers game and like it's just like Lakers T-shirts. And, like, baseball caps. Well, like, people come to tennis looking good.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Well, that's the individuality of the sport. I know. Exactly. All right. You are young. You follow tennis from a social media perspective. So I want to get who are your favorite, like, follows in the tennis world? Oh, well, I mean, obviously our top dogs, Yonick and Carlos.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah. Love to follow them. Cocoa. What are their, like, what's their energy like on social media? What's Yanuk's energy? Well, I want to say it's like a specific energy because they are athletes and they're bringing a, the thing I love about Yanuk and Carlos in general is that they have like this like friendship.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So like they post about each other in really positive ways. And I, they just both seem like they have a really good head on their shoulders, which I enjoy. And I do also, I like Carlos as a follow because he posts a lot of us behind the scenes of like what he's up to his training you know even like i mean maybe it's more of interest to me as a person who's played sports in my life yeah is like working with his trainer and stuff yeah because some of you to see some of his workouts are really incredible like seeing how he prepares i'm like he can like well you you can go look it up for yourself but he's doing some stuff that i'm like wow the core strength it takes yeah
Starting point is 00:20:05 So that's what you're taking away from him as a follow. Is there anybody who's like really funny on social media? Like who would be the funniest? I think Coco's funny. Coco is funny. Yeah. I think Taylor Townsend is funny. I find Tiafo pretty entertaining.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Nick Curios, obviously, he's a real, he's a live wire. So, you know, like you can get, you can get a lot from his social media. He posts a lot of different content and he has a lot of opinions. So you can get a lot out of that. Who else do I find? I mean, even like Ben Shelton is entertaining. A lot of the younger ones,
Starting point is 00:20:45 they know how to utilize social media to, yeah, that's just like part of existence for them. So, yeah, their personality just like comes across so much. And yeah, it's also like tied to that thing about that
Starting point is 00:20:57 the access that you have to tennis players. Like when people are talking about why basketball players have more, individualized fame than like football players it's because you have like access to their face and like these like kind of quieter moments whereas football players have helmets but like tennis is the most access like you have you have it's just them you know you just are like seeing everything you know i would even say like arena sabalanka like her and her team are like really fun together they have a lot you know you can tell they're very close they're strong knit you know
Starting point is 00:21:34 herner trainer she loves to rub his head it's just fun they have fun to know way demeaning yeah if you ever just like rubbed my head i'd feel very uh you know yeah that would be odd we don't have that relationship we shouldn't do that and then you're also a breakpoint head are there any breakpoint fans out there from Netflix breakpoint bring back breakpoint seriously bring back breakpoint it was so great favorite breakpoint character they canceled it after two seasons which is a very unfortunate, but we do need it back. Netflix, if you're listening. I don't know if they're here.
Starting point is 00:22:08 We need to, like, do the thing that, you know, sci-fi shows when they get canceled, they have, like, this massive, like, uprising. I know. We need to organize. Okay. Let's bring back break point. Tennis channel, ESPN, SkySport, I'm just looking at the signs. Can you guys pick up, can you buy Breakpoint from Netflix? I don't know. We'll see. We put in that request. I just, I put it out there. Let's see if it comes. And then there are also the influencer or girlfriends that I know you're... Oh, the girlfriends. The girlfriends have more power than the players. Because they just have like the ability to like kind of do what they want a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Well, I mean, they get the sort of social cachet and then they get to become the influencer and then they get the clothes and they get to, you know, I mean, they get the brand deals and you know, and then they don't have to actually go out and be an athlete, which is kind of maybe the dream. You don't have to do the work, but you get the social cachet at the same time. I'm not mad at it. No. I would love that. Sounds like a generally a pretty good deal.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And you just like to be supportive. That's what my wife is really good at tennis. That's like kind of my role. Yeah. Yeah. Like I, if you ask me who my game is like most like, it would be an influencer girlfriend. That's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I show up and like kind of act supportive. Like, oh yeah. You know, look at the game tape as we do. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:27:30 Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Marco Tura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. We do want to talk about fashion, though, because I think that's a big part of challengers, big part of just like tennis players look better than other athletes. I feel like, just like the clothes are amazing. I mean, the other, I feel like the only other group is the NBA players. Right. Because they have their little walk down the hallway. Yeah, the catwalk to the locker room.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, the catwalk to sort of show off their gear, which they don't really have that here. But they get to have a different, like, look that they're putting together. Like, could you imagine if, like, NBA players got, like, a different look for each game, like, that they got to, like, be part of designing? That would be so sick. And, like, that's what tennis naturally has. and then there's like the things that might be mistakes like Luigi and the hamburger look for Carlos but yeah that makes that's what makes it fun you know yeah and then they like kind of play into that and don't mind it at all yeah I mean Yonick really
Starting point is 00:28:45 played into it he posted uh his uh green and blue outfit from the French open and wrote Luigi back on the court so they you know what they have humor which is which is good you know yeah but I will say Yonick and his his Gucci sponsorship. I think even this morning it was that he revealed Gucci has that they made a new bag for him that is like a
Starting point is 00:29:08 co-lab with the US Open and so the straps I believe are like the US Open like polo colors which is it's nice it's a nice bag and you know he's like the only player who gets like permission at Wimbledon to bring a bag that's not all
Starting point is 00:29:23 white so he has like a Gucci bag bag on court which is not usually It's not usually allowed. No, it'd have to be an all-white Gucci bag, which he doesn't have to do because he got special permission, which is, you know what? That's power. At Wimbledon, that's power.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, make Wimbledon change their rules. That is power. Also, we cannot not talk about Coco and her new balance, Mumu, Co-Lab. It's incredible. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, the last one she was wearing at Wimbledon was this, like,
Starting point is 00:29:54 white lace number. That was incredible. a great tennis dress. We could only wish to be able to wear that on our own, you know, tennis ventures. I feel like, like, the Jordan brand gets a lot of attention and, like, business media for, like, being this thing that, like, made sports shoes, like, breakthrough into fashion. But, like, the Stan Smiths are the original version of that, too. Sure, yeah. Like, I feel like that, and they can go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like, everybody can wear Stan Smiths anywhere you want. That's true. That's true. And that is true. I was really thinking about that. Like, yeah, the Stan Smiths are a very iconic show. The original Jordans are Stan Smiths. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And then another thing we usually do on the show, the underrated thing. And my underrated in the tennis world are the Brian brothers who just got inducted into the Hall of Fame, I think, last night. I think it's so interesting that, like, the best doubles players ever are identical twins who, like, just like, I don't know, when you hear people talk about their. ability to like, do you remember that like time life video where it was like a twin like cuts his finger and then like his identical twin across the country like feels it's like that's the energy you get from them like out there. I mean they probably have such a synergy. Yeah. When they're like double twins. So like one is righty, one's lefty. Oh, that's incredible. Yeah. Those parents were thinking. They were ready to go.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah. I'm waiting for the King Richard about their parents because they were like so on it. They never let them play against each other, even though they were, like, the best players. Yeah, yeah. So they kept them as a team. Because, you know, that can get messy. It can. Mixing business and pleasure, it doesn't always work out. Yeah, I think everybody assumes that, oh, they're twins.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So naturally, they, like, have this great vibe. But, like, that can, I was telling you about Anne Landers and Dear Abby backstage, which, like, those are identical twins who ended up in, like, this massive feud. What a topical reference. I didn't know they were identical twins. Very topical reference. topical reference. Everybody knows Anne Landers and Deeraz. But like they like that can blow up in so many ways. If you have two twins who are like doing the same thing like yeah. Yeah. They were in a few lifelong feud whereas these guys like would fight but then make up and are the greatest to ever do it. And then get on the court. And then get on the court and dominate. So yeah, I don't know. I find that super interesting. There's a good podcast with Patrick McEnroe and then being interviewed. that just kind of tells their story
Starting point is 00:32:27 that everybody should check out. All right. Do we want to go to the audience for any questions? Does anybody, do we have a, do we have a mic? He's got the mic. We got a mic out there. Let's go favorite social media follow tennis player. Anybody have one?
Starting point is 00:32:41 You two have been here the whole time. He goes to be on-a-a. Yeah. She is really good. She's incredible. She's playing amazing right now. Is that your pick for the women's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I feel like she might do it. On break point. Yeah. That was your pick also backstage. Yeah, I think Ega can take it this year. We'll see. But I will say, like, while watching Breakpoint, something great about her is one way that she relaxes is she builds Legos. I don't know if you guys saw that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's pretty cool. That's like how her downtime to like sort of calm her mind. That's cool. That's also my way of doing it. I pretend like I'm doing it for my kids, but I'm actually like, stop, don't touch that. All right. Any other good social media follows? I like Nayao's hot.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's also got some great fits. She does some great co-labs with Nike. More players should do that. They should really be designing their own gear. Yeah. Who's your favorite, like, fashion icon tennis player?
Starting point is 00:33:41 I mean, I like, yeah, I like Nama as well. Great call. She does some great work. Yeah. Who else? Who else is great? I mean, obviously, Coco with her Mewewew, New Balance co-labs. Those are great.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Oh, Venus. has a great line of like leggings and gear that you can wear that I've looked at. It's really nice. Nice. All right. Let's go out on our picks. Who's going to win it? You had Sweetech, I think, and who's going to win the men's?
Starting point is 00:34:09 For me, I'm thinking maybe Ega and then for men, Yonick's center maybe. Look, I'm hoping he can come back from, you know, his Cincinnati Open retirement. You can possibly win it all. Who knows? I am hoping it's a Carlos Yonix finale. So we could sit here for eight hours. Carlos Yonik? We want an eight hour final.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, yeah. I think it's going to be Carlos, and I think Coco's coming for the women's right. I really hope so. It would be great to see Coco come back and win the open again. All right. Well, thank you to the U.S.TA.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Thank you guys for hanging with us. And, yeah. Have a great day, everybody. Open. I'm going to go try and play a qualifier real quick. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Baye Wang.
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