The Daily Zeitgeist - TrendPR Sues Donald Trump 5/28: 'The Rehearsal', Kevin Spacey, NPR, 7-Up, AI Pope
Episode Date: May 28, 2025In this edition of TrendPR Sues Donald Trump, Jack and Miles discuss the season finale of 'The Rehearsal', Kevin Spacey… still being around doing stuff, the first person to swim around Martha's... Vineyard (for the sharks), NPR suing Donald Trump, 7-Up bringing back their Shirley Temple flavor, our new based anti-AI Pope, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of Trend PR sues Donald Trump.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Well, indeed.
Indeed.
Fuck the fuck protected speech, y'all.
If you say something they don't like, they'll
take your money.
That's right. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr. Miles Gray.
Yeah.
This is the episode where we tell you some of the things that are trending.
Tell you how do you say what's trending?
How you say cucumber.
How you say cucumber.
Oh, right. Yeah, that makes sense because I grew up in how you say Connecticut
It is Wednesday May 28th, eh
There so a lot of people in my corner of the internet anyways talking about that dang rehearsal
Which we won't?
that dang rehearsal, which we won't spoil for you until tomorrow's episode. Yeah, exactly. You got time.
Finale happened over the weekend. Very, very good finale. But Super Producer Victor found
this old AV club interview with him from back in the early, like Nathan for you days that I feel like is a good kind of Rosetta stone,
like a decoder ring for like his whole shit.
Was he like, yeah, I'm about to fuck up the aviation industry.
Yeah, exactly. Uh, yeah.
He said I'm going to be the comedy equivalent of nine 11 when it comes to the
aviation industry, which was a strong statement, I thought, for him.
No, it's just, he says, you know how the mortgage thing happened in 2008, the housing market
collapsed, stock market collapsed. I got really obsessed with it because it was kind of the first
big recession in my lifetime. I started reading all these books about it, trying to understand
how did this happen? Because we're this culture of corruption, but corruption that was just legal enough
to squeak by.
It all came down to these minor interactions that people would have with each other where
someone would know something's wrong or unethical, but the other person just wouldn't want to
speak up because the social environment wasn't conducive to that.
So all these terrible things that happened, these big world events came down to basically two people
in a room with one person being too uncomfortable
to speak their mind.
Which I think is true in a lot of ways.
Somebody who's just sat there and gotten a bad haircut
that I knew was bad as it was happening.
Just tears running down your face.
You good buddy?
Yeah.
I fucking love it.
These tears are tears of love.
I like that he goes on, he said, maybe it's more of a Canadian thing too, but I think
it's everywhere.
People do that everywhere.
In Canada, maybe people are even less likely to rock the boat.
Maybe starting there, I picked up on that stuff.
I find that a lot of bigger things come down to the smaller moments.
Yeah.
It's definitely common in the workplace.
One of the details that jumped out to me from the finale
that I don't think spoils anything,
but I talk about it in tomorrow's episode,
but he gives the example of driving the back of a Uber.
Well, the Uber driver is just like looking like watching a YouTube video or
like scrolling through like a TikTok feed and like not paying attention to the road.
And I've been in that situation. I have not said shit. Yeah. Yeah. I remember once I've had a,
I had a driver like taking turns so hard and at one point it's like, bro, okay. Cause in your mind, you think they're gonna be like, why don't you enjoy the fucking ride? That's why you're like, okay.
In your mind, you're like, I don't want that.
And I will just roll the dice with this.
But this one was totally just oblivious to being like,
I get it, man.
You got so many people in the car,
you're just trying to fucking get these rides.
Yeah, just trying to get to the next thing.
Yeah, I'm sure you're like,
I don't want that.
And I will just roll the dice with this.
But this one was totally just oblivious to being like,
I get it, man.
You got so many people in the car,
you're just trying to fucking get these rides. Yeah, just trying to get this, but this one was totally just oblivious to being like, I get it, man.
You got so many people in the car,
you're just trying to fucking get these.
Yeah, just trying to get to the next thing.
Yeah, I'm sure a kind word
and just like a little bit of thought on my part of like,
how's a good, what's a good way to object without being like.
Can I see it?
Can I see it?
And then take the phone.
Yeah, oh, this is so cool.
Yeah, dude, just keep going.
I'll tell you if there's a good one.
You like street basketball? The most work to be passive against. Yeah. Oh, this is so cool. Yeah. Just keep going. I'll tell you if there's a good one.
You like street basketball? The most work to be passive against.
No? All right. I'm going to skip to the next one.
I'll describe. How about this? You give me your phone. I'll describe them to you.
Oh, okay.
And we just go forward like that.
How about you not reach up here?
Kind of what I do for a living.
Describe YouTube videos to people in an audio medium.
My whole shit.
Oh yeah. being an annoying passenger
who's about to get a zero rating.
No, nothing, nothing, nothing.
I was just giving a good rating.
I don't want my rating hurt.
The, yeah, the whole season is about like pilots
being able to communicate to one another weirdly,
but it's very compelling if people aren't watching it.
Highly recommend.
Right.
Kevin Spacey is, remains back in the news somehow.
Yeah.
He is so fresh out.
We talked on a recent episode about how he just won
an award at con.
It was like a good human award.
Like I forget the name of the thing, but it was like,
it was like humanitarian great, great dude award.
No notes, the no notes award.
Switch.
Solid, solid guy, no notes.
Solid person who we can't say shit to, he rules.
Also, cause we also don't really talk about our own
sexual predators.
This is France, this is the film industry in France, Miles. There's nothing shady to
see there.
Oh, nothing to see there. Do not Google Gerard Depardieu. Okay.
But he is now going to be directing a new movie. This is going to be his first in more
than 20 years. And it sounds even worse and more embarrassing than I would have expected.
Because I think his last one,
the last thing he directed I thought was that
Bobby Darin movie where he was just like,
I am going to be this singer
because I think I'm really good at-
Should have been a crooner.
Yeah, should have been a crooner.
He played Bobby Darin in Beyond the Sea,
a lifelong dream project who took on co-writing,
directing, co-producing, and starring duties in the biographical musical about Darin's
life.
But yeah, it was just like a thing where people were like, we really don't want you in this.
And he was like, oh yeah?
Well check this shit out.
And then nobody went and saw it
because nobody wanted to watch him in that role.
But anyways, this new one,
sounds like it's a new direction.
Okay.
It's called Hologuards.
It's set in the future in which humanity has been fractured
by hidden supernatural forces
and the two rival warrior groups wage a secret war for control of humanity's fate.
There's mind control, there's a cosmic portal that can awaken an ancient force known as the Prime,
presumably because he's trying to sell it to Amazon.
Straight to Amazon?
The Bezosians do triumph in the end though.
It's why it's starring Dolph Lundgren and Eric Robert.
It's the most direct to DVD ass thing that I've ever heard
or I guess direct to streaming.
Like it seems like unless it's like, yeah,
we're actually taking those movies and like doing a thing with the idea of direct to streaming projects that like never make see the light of day.
But again, that's a bad idea. No, this feels like nobody watches those. This is such a bad, such a bad concept. And then like a cast of people you could truly give a fuck less about.
And they're like, yeah, man, this is, this feels like the movie equivalent of like one
last job.
Yeah.
Let's, you know what?
They say we shouldn't do it and maybe we're past it.
And you know what?
They're right.
But we're going to do it anyway.
And no one's going to care.
My haters said I couldn't do it and they were right.
And to them, good call by my haters. Good call by my haters.
Yeah, this feels like one of those, just like his last directing project.
There's the holo guards and the static guards.
Who wrote this?
Oh yeah, dude, the holo guards.
It feels like something that like somebody wrote
in a Trapper Keeper when they were 12.
Oh yeah. Hollow, holly, like we're talking holographic shit.
That's 70s, 80s. I'm sorry. We're past the hollow anything.
All right. Big news for Jaws fans. An Endurance Swimmer.
Big news for me.
Big news for me. News in my life. An Endurance Swmer swam around Martha's Vineyard.
It took them, I think like 12 days.
It's a 60 mile swim.
They never said they were a speed swimmer.
And just to be like, I love Jaws.
I'm swimming around Martha's Vineyard.
They were trying to make the point that like, hey, look at this.
I am not going to be eaten by a shark because that's not what
sharks do.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I mean, we have, we've always talked about on the show how
Jaws basically opened the door for like just out of control,
shark hunting and shark fish.
I don't know if it's called shark hunting, shark fishing,
um, shark, Hunter, shark, Hannah.
Oh, this guy is okay.
He's 55.
Oh, so he was what?
Five years old when Jaws came out.
When Jaws came out.
I'm just trying to think of this person's life story.
Yeah, yeah.
This is the 50th anniversary of Jaws.
So yeah, they were five when it came out and said they wanted to highlight the perilous
plight of sharks around the world.
Look how not eaten by a fucking shark I am
at the end of this.
Completed the swim in a pair of Speedos,
even though a skinny dip would have obviously been
the best way to honor the film's legacy.
It's reported he wasn't even drunk for the swim.
Ah!
She said again, like.
Respect the source material then.
How am I supposed to believe that the shark
wouldn't have eaten you if you you know
Say it like when I eat a Thanksgiving turkey. I don't put a little speedo on it, you know, yeah, that's true
Oh, this man is on it. Well, I wonder if he's he's a British South African. I wonder if he swam over for safety
We're still where's Steven Spielberg, bro?
The answer for this.
He has this quote where he said,
"'I truly and to this day regret the decimation
of the shark population because of the book and the film.'"
Oh, the famous book?
But I mean, it was the book's idea.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I'm gonna blame Hitler, y'all, to be honest. The book's idea. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. wish I hadn't unleashed this fear of sharks onto the world because sharks are actually amazing and
like they don't attack people the way they do in this fictional film. And Spielberg was like,
yeah, man, you shouldn't have done that shit. You fucked up.
Everyone when they hear, they think of your book, fool. And I'd be pretty fucked up about it if I were you.
Not me though, I'm fine.
That's one of the things I still fear.
Not to get eaten by a shark.
The sharks are somehow mad at me
for the feeding frenzy of crazy sport fishermen
that happened after 1975.
That's what Spielberg said?
Yeah.
I'm not scared to get eaten by them
because they don't do that shit, but you know.
But if they're mad at me,
that really breaks my heart if they're mad at me.
I hate to think that there's a group of sharks out there.
Yeah, just like a cartoon shark with frowny eyebrows,
little steam puffs coming out of its ears.
They're like, Shakespeare in love
should have won best picture.
I don't care what happened in 98.
I don't care. That in 98. I don't care
That's that's tough. That's tough. Well, but it's I mean it is I don't know that it You know who knows if it was specifically caused by the movie
But shockingly more than a third of shark species are now at risk of extinction
Damn, so that's where we're at. These are sharks have been around for
They've been around 50 millions and millions of years.
Oh, millions of years?
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought maybe someone from the seventies or something they found out.
Yeah.
Since at least the late seventies.
The late seventies?
What the heck is this stuff?
Let's take a quick break.
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NPR over the weekend sued Donald Trump over funding cuts.
Yeah.
You don't have First Amendment protected free speech anymore.
That's basically what all this is.
It's like everything we've seen from the Harvard defunding and NPR stuff, it's all just, you
said something I'm against or I don't like.
Therefore, if you disagree with me, you have no right to, and you now have caused damages
by speaking differently than what I believe.
Is even trying to like hide it or like present an alternative motive.
Like it seems like he's just being like, yeah, no, that's what you get.
Everybody will recall that I am corrupt.
Right.
Therefore will defund you for being mean to me.
I don't, I don't know that like, is he even bothering to present an
alternate explanation?
There doesn't even need to be, you know, that's the thing now with this, it,
with that Supreme court decision last year and now this, this guy and the
whole administration is like, bro, what the who gon check me boo.
Yeah. But there, but then every fucking week they do something that's somehow beyond the pale for the moment.
And people are like, what the fuck?
It's like, actually, no, no, no, that was it.
No, we didn't mean that.
We didn't mean that.
We didn't mean that.
It's like, it is clear that like,
there's a lot of momentum behind what they're doing.
They really feel like they can't be touched.
And yeah, you talk against us,
we will just straight up, fuck're going to fuck the constitution.
It's nothing.
This is just, it has happened.
And then with the, with the Harvard thing, they're like, oh, so
did Barron get rejected?
Is that why, is that why y'all are mad?
Cause he is really highlighting Harvard specifically.
I don't know.
I mean, like, you know, he's in that school, you know, people kind of end up going to
Ivy leagues.
I know that's like a big thing with your school, but is that something?
And, you know, now mommy Melania had to come out
and reply and said, no, quote,
Barron did not apply to Harvard.
And any assertion that he,
or that anyone on his behalf applied is completely false.
Okay.
Okay.
He's at NYU.
Is that where he went?
Yep.
Yeah, interesting.
All right, we talked yesterday about how the, at NYU? Is that where you want? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Um, all right.
We talked yesterday about how the,
the mega errors upon us in streaming and television, uh,
the,
that everybody's like bending over backwards to take a positive read on,
um,
shows that can be phrased as like heartland or like kind of right leaning.
Um, and we just wanted to highlight that Duck Dynasty,
because one of the original people
from that show just passed away,
but they were already in talks about bringing that show back
and it's going to premiere this summer,
summer of 2025 on A&E.
Cool.
I did not catch Duck Dynasty the first time around.
No, it was repellent to people who like feared racists
or what they thought like a TV version of a racist person is.
To me it's just a reality show about racists, right?
They looked like people who were hunting slaves.
That's the vibe I got from that family.
Those ZZ Top beards and shit.
Not to say ZZ Top, like, you know,
if I fuck with ZZ Top, but like their whole energy was like,
these are not the kind of people if I was in a,
like on a road trip through the South, they'd be like,
excuse me, do you, now you know what?
I'm gonna keep it moving.
I will keep it moving.
But yeah, Ducked, this I think goes along with everything.
There, it satiates the need to regress culturally
to go to more conservative kind of content.
And also the sort of Hollywood industry
need to not come up with anything new,
just dust off something old.
Yeah, this was like a fucking just slam dunk pitch.
Slam dunk.
Guys, what if we brought Dunk Dynasty?
Dunk Dynasty.
Hey, Dunk Dynasty, that could be a good one.
What if we brought Dunk Dynasty back?
I would rather watch Dunk dynasty
about people who were running a franchisees of Dunkin' Donuts.
I don't even know if those are franchises,
but sign me up for people talking about Dunkin'.
I don't care, just not Duck dynasty, sorry.
I was thinking Dunk dynasty could be
about the Lob City Clippers, an alternate universe.
No, no, we got it, Jack.
We're trying to capture that MAGA audience too.
I think we can all agree.
Dunkin' Donuts is-
You're way off.
You need to get your mind around the new world
that we live in. Where we're at, Jack.
2025, man.
Dunk.
White men who persevered around the discrimination
that they faced due to DEI
and were able to launch a successful Dunkin Donuts.
Is that better?
Um, yeah.
Or maybe it's just about Brent Barry.
OK. People were like, this white boy can't win no dunk.
His dad shot free throws like a fucking grandma.
It is a dynasty because his dad is an NBA player.
And Brent, John, uh, that's his brother. His brother was John, right? Yeah. And who is his dad was an NBA player. And then- Brent, John, that's his brother.
His brother was John, right?
Yeah.
And then who was his dad?
What was the dad called?
Barry, also Barry.
Barry Barry.
But anyway-
Rick.
Rick, that's right.
Rick Barry.
Ultimate white seventies guy named Rick.
Just have it be about the Barrys.
That's Dunk Dynasty, okay?
Fuck it. I'd rather watch that than anything.
Seven Up is confirming the return
of a limited edition flavor that was very popular
when it was last, and that is Shirley Temple flavor.
Oh, wait, there was a legit Shirley Temple flavor?
Yeah, I guess so.
I remember there was this cherry Seven Up
back in the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still remember the color cherry 7-Up back in the 80s. Yeah.
I still remember the color of the can. It's like a very light pink. Anyway, shout out to 7-Up.
I prefer 7-Up to Sprite. It's a little lighter, a little bit crispier in my experience.
Actually, not crispier, but lighter for sure.
You prefer 7-Up to Sprite, you said?
To Sprite, yeah.
Okay, so this is my last episode, y'all.
Jack should know that is-
I also haven't had it in a long time.
Jack, that's anti-black to say you don't like Sprite.
Is it? And you prefer 7Up.
I didn't say I don't like Sprite.
I said I like 7Up.
I said I don't like black people.
I prefer white people.
I just said I like white people
and I think they should have their own entertainment network.
Damn, I used to remember feeling so cool.
Like, you know, like as a kid,
you were ordering like a fucking Coke or whatever.
You'd be like, yeah, Shirley Temple, Roy Rogers.
Yeah, give me a Roy Rogers over here.
And I remember like,
I didn't realize you could buy grenadine like at the store.
And when I, I remember one day, my dad brought him a bottle of grenadine
My mom took that shit away cuz I was doing like 5050s
Yeah, I was a Shirley Temple Roy Rogers bitch I was like, yeah
Can I get a Roy Rogers every time we would go to a restaurant? Just thick-ass syrup poured into already?
every time we would go to a restaurant, just thick ass syrup poured into already impossible.
Another syrup.
Yeah, yeah, another syrup filled drink.
And could I get a Canadian Roy Rogers
where you actually put some maple syrup in there, a topper.
And finally, if we didn't already love this new Pope enough,
White Sox fan.
Vance hater.
Chicago hates Vance and he's American, which
is implied by the Chicago thing.
So we can forgive the homophobia.
Oh yeah. For a pope? Not that homophobic.
Yeah, exactly. Just kind of.
Guy is also a little bit suspicious of AI, it sounds like. Yep, yep.
So the AI pope was trying, I was like, what the fuck? It's like, do we get another like trippy AI photo
of the pope?
No.
So it turns out, quote,
in his first address to the cardinals,
he explained that he actually chose the name Leo XIV
because of AI.
I said, what the, is this like a Wu-Tang name generator
that you popped in?
Like AI, Pope name generator?
The name is a reference to the previous Pope, Leo XIII,
who held the position during the industrial revolution
in the late 19th century.
That former pontiff weighed in on how rising capitalism
and the new technology of the day
risked turning workers into commodities.
The Catholic church, he argued,
should stand up for workers' rights and dignity.
And then this is what Leo XIV, our boy said, quote,
in our own day, the church offers everyone
the treasury of its social teaching
in response to another industrial revolution
and to developments in the field of artificial intelligence
that pose new challenges for the defense of human dignity,
justice, and labor.
And goes on to be like, again,
that the Catholic
church should assume this role to sort of be like, you can't turn workers into commodities.
There's even a reason why there's like, we even say there's a day you can rest because
we're trying to tell people to not be working all the fucking time. Not to say that the
Catholic church was started as a labor rights organization, but that's where Leo sort of
sees his-
It's where he's leaning.
Everything. Yeah.
Yeah. We'll see what he does. See what Yeah. All right. We'll see what he does.
See what you got, Leo.
We'll see what you got.
Considering that the last time we saw religion and AI intersect,
it was like an AI priest who would take your confessions.
And it was really, and like, it was like, you can confess directly to Jesus.
I think that's probably the thing he's like,
hmm, you're not taking my fucking job
Pure job protection. I mean, what do you think about the hallucinations? He's like, I don't know what you're talking about
But this fucker will not take our jobs
That's where I'm at. These computers will not replace us. Thank you
Pope yikes slippery slope for the alright. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, May 28th.
We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccines while you still can. Get your flu shots. Don't do
nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye bye.
Bye.
The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Katherine Law.
Co-produced by Bae Wang.
Co-produced by Victor Wright.
Co-written by J.M. McNabb.
And edited and engineered by Brian Jeffries.
Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.
Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity Kang alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to
provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.
It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.
I went through things there.
Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Ditty
Trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts.
What happens when we come face to face with death?
My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine.
My parachute did not deploy.
I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
We step beyond the edge of what we know...
I clinically died. The heart stopped beating.
Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes.
...and returned...
It's a miracle I was brought back.
...Alive Again, a podcast about the strength of the human spirit.
Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful?
The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater podcast network.
So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come
to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Being able to say, I feel like crying, so I will cry. Today, I'm a little depressed.
May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and Deeply Well is a sanctuary for your healing.
I'm Devi Brown, healer, well-being expert, teacher,
and fellow seeker.
And each week, we explore what it means to become whole
through soul-expanding conversations and practices.
Today, wow, I feel really powerful and ready to serve
and use my skills.
And it's like, that's the heart of what it is
to be an authentic woman.
To hear this and more ways to prioritize your piece,
listen to Deeply Well from the Black Effect Podcast Network
on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
AT&T, connecting changes everything.
This is an iHeart Podcast.