The Daily Zeitgeist - Trends Da Xuxa 4/7: Black Monday, 'Hands Off' Demonstrations, Receding Hairlines Sexy?

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

In this edition of Trends Da Xuxa, Miles and special guest co-host Francesca Fiorentini discuss their respective weekends, Trump tanking the stock market with his dumb-ass tariffs, the 'Hands Off' dem...onstrations happening all over the world (that you probably didn't even hear about because the mainstream media is in shambles), receding hairlines being sexy now? (feat. Walton Goggins) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Have you seen that clip with the Brazilian girl, Que Show de Xuxa Esse? No. There's this little, these kids, there's like this lady named Xuxa, who's like this huge performer in Brazil. And all these Brazilian kids were trying to get into like a big free concert for the kids and like they let all these other people in. And like all these regular kids didn't get in, like these poor kids couldn't get in because they let in like industry people like whatever and so this like six-year-old girl is outside the concert
Starting point is 00:00:30 she's screamed about how long how long we've been waiting here and they let other people in she's like what kind of show the sushi is this let me just play this because this i think sums up the energy of how different kids are like abroad like this kid is like what the fuck of how different kids are like abroad. Like this kid is like, what the fuck? Queijo da Xuxa. The doors of the theater were open at 7 a.m. You understand this, right here. I got here at 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:00:49 This can't happen. They closed the door and the kids stayed. Queijo da Xuxa, this is it. Queijo da Xuxa, this is it. How many people? This is so good, but this is from the age, right? You don't see that energy from adults, Miles. We talking about kids. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Just shut the- Well, no, you do. You see it from adults, but they'll be being like, I told you my kid's allergic to strawberry and you gave me this Jamba Juice, you fuck! And then they throw it at a teenager's head. It's like the energy's all in the wrong direction. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series.
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Starting point is 00:02:47 This is a con. I'm conning you to get the Delano painting. We could do this together. To pull off this heist, they'll have to get close and jump into the deep end together. That's a huge leap Fernando don't you think? After you Chulito. But love is the biggest risk they'll ever take. Fernando's never going to love you
Starting point is 00:03:07 as much as he loves in this job. Chulito, that painting is ours. Listen to The Set Up as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends, is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduce you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity can be.
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Starting point is 00:04:46 about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, internet. Welcome to this Monday morning trending episode of The Daily Zeitgeist. This is the episode where we're gonna tell you some of the things you may have missed over the weekend, some of the things surely we missed over the weekend
Starting point is 00:05:15 because the microphones were down and the news cycle continues, but here we are trying to give you the best. All right, I'm gonna stop with this. I don't know why I tried to start with this. No, I like it. I really like it. I was like getting into it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Should I go even stop? And welcome to this morning edition of The Daily Zeitgeist. I'm Miles Gray, your Intrepid host, and I'm thrilled to be joined today by the Intrepid. I'm gonna just, everything is a dodge. Everything's Intrepid. So Intrepid. And I'm joined by Francesca Fiorentini.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Hello Francesca. Hello, I'm Francesca Catherine Fiorentini Is that your middle name? No, it's Kate, but Catherine is much more NPR. Yeah, I know the way you said that I was like damn. Well, you got an NPR ass name. No, it's Kate It's it's basically my initials are FKF, which I like to think of just fuck off. Yeah, it's my voice Hell yeah, like a 13 year old. Hi Miles, happy Monday. Happy Monday.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's not, everyone's like, is it Black Monday? I don't know. I was only three years old when that happened, but no, I guess if you're comparing the raw numbers, the stock market hasn't fallen 22% at once. Just a tad less than that, but still fucked up. Anyway, let's first get into our overrated, underrated, so people can get an idea of where we're coming from.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And based on how you're covering your face, I'm guessing you're gonna come up with this on the fly, Francesca. I saw that shit. I didn't do the homework. I need the old meal. Okay, pop quiz everyone. Get your, put your notes away.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Que show de sushi es? Que show de sushi es? But I know I'll go first. No, I haven't, I haven't. Because it's Monday. Yeah. My overrated, and I think maybe Francesca and I both share this one because you, maybe this was in the cold open, but honestly, now that I talk about it, just our complaining
Starting point is 00:07:02 culture in the US, overrated. We complain about fucking all the things that don't matter and none of The things that do not that everyone does it but like we are not built with this like you know What the fuck is this shit kind of energy we were talking about little Italian kids little Brazilian kids They got the fucking fuego. Okay, that's burning inside them and it's about like It's like the Wi's broken, mom. I know, I know. The iPad, can you?
Starting point is 00:07:29 I need more, I need more tokens. Like, yeah, we're very, we're very used to the creature comforts, but like, you know, in France, when they're trying to import milk from Spain, people will just like stop the trucks and spill all the milk in the street. Yeah, they're slashing tires, shit.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Slash tires and just be like, no, we defend our dairy farmers. No. And it's just like, what? Yeah, I remember even being one of the, like the last, the first time I was in Italy, I was so shocked because a guy was like, usually we would garnish this with an orange, but they came from Portugal
Starting point is 00:08:01 and we don't know how they grow them. So we put a lemon, just so you know, this is different than our usual presentation. So we put a lemon, just so you know this is different than our usual presentation. I was like, bro, I'm from the land of eating plastic fruit and chemicals, but thank you so much. This is, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Thank you for taking a stand. I didn't even know it had to be taken. That's amazing. Maybe a little xenophobia as well, but hey, look, whatever it is. No, but similarly like, you know, France, was it France also that tried to raise their, I mean, yeah, it's all xenophobic, but you know, it's Europe. France tried to raise their retirement rate, retirement age, to I think like 67.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Meanwhile, we are living there, we're talking about social security and we all know that like retirement is now 67, right? Like it's going, like I think in like a couple years it will have hit 67 so it's no longer 65. Have we done shit about it? No. I mean I'm sure like a French person will go into like a Walmart and see like an elderly greeter and be like oh my god what crime did they commit that this is their sentence? And you're like oh no no they I'm sorry they are still also in the process of toiling because this is the United States. Anyway, that's my overrated.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Did you have an overrated too? I mean, it's a spoiler and it's not political, but I also go real political always. But if people haven't seen White Lotus the third season. I haven't, but talk your shit because we are gonna get to that, but don't spoil it. Cause I'm only at episode four. Cause I'm very slow. I won't spoil it,
Starting point is 00:09:24 but I will say that it's an overrated season and it's sad because I think some of the actors are incredible and the characters had good, there was good bones, but the writing was not good. I heard this is what I hear. It's too bad because I really like White Lotus. I'm digging, I like the soundtracks of season two and three. The third soundtrack is fire. Yo, all that Thai music. The Thai music is amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I can't Shazam any of it, unfortunately. Have you been able to? I'm sure you can find it. What I do is I go to like, you know, I'm sure Spotify has this. I do Apple podcast or Apple, whatever music. And you look at someone who, you know, a blessed soul has created the playlist, they found it so you can get it that way. But yeah, it's an overrated season and it's too bad.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Cause like it's Parker Posey, man. And she's amazing. I know, but hey, she's killing it as like the zanned out woman from North Carolina. I'll say that. She is, but it's like, there could be more, there could be funnier lines and it's just not there. And then the three friends are the best storyline,
Starting point is 00:10:26 in my opinion, because that's that like sweet spot of this is normal, but they're catty and there's drama, but I just like that. That's like a really good storyline. Everything else is a little bit, it's too bad. Yeah, all right, let's talk about what is underrated. My underrated is when you go to like a public restroom or restroom at a restaurant, any kind of place, and the default water that comes out is lukewarm.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I think that's very underrated. I find that very, I like that. I don't like having ice cold water hit my hands. I just, it's just a weird thing. That's cause I'm a soft ass American and I'm not out here complaining about the real shit. I'm like, this water is too cold. But I went somewhere. They only had one faucet. It turned on and it spit out lukewarm water.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And I was like, this shit is fucking this feels like a luxury. And I'm going to stand by that. That does not see that doesn't does not square with your overrated. I know. I know. But I'm saying we're too soft and in lukewarm water. Yeah, that's what I just said. That's what I'm saying. I know. I know. But I'm saying we're too soft and then Luke warm water. Yeah, that's what I just said. That's what I'm saying. I know. I know. I'm out here complaining about cold water touching me. Manos. Okay. But I like it a little last Manos. Oh, sorry. I think that's it. That's it. See, look, this is out here because I'm speaking pigeon Spanish that
Starting point is 00:11:40 I learned just ambiently in LA. Not ever not ever taking a class. But yeah, thank you, Brian, the editor who said, yes, a very Japanese take. It is it is. It's like one of those things I like because it's considering it's like a small detail you're considering for the user experience. And I appreciate it. I don't know many people who are out here would be like, ah, it's lukewarm. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:03 All right, I don't know unless you like a fucking ice water to wash your hands. I don't. So thank you to that place I went. I will not give you extra business because it was a little bit of a weird time. But the bathroom water. Thank you. You're welcome. I think everything in my house is sentient because I have a toddler, as you know.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And so like the towel in the bathroom that she uses to wash her hands before dinner is like Hello, mr. Dahl. Thank you. Well, no it is not You're a talking towel. It's talking. I mean I I am the towel and It's not just like a thing. I mean she does that shit where your kids wipe their hands all over you like treating your pants Like it's a napkin. Yo, why do they do that? Because it's easy It's so you know what? It was bad because it's something you do initially out of like, I don't have anything else here.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Just wipe them on here. And then they're like, oh, I like treating you like a doormat. Yeah. Yeah. You fucking. Because now I'm really in that era where I'm like, what's he eating? No, I'm wearing all black. Like I'm the fucking about to protest.
Starting point is 00:13:02 No, but that's the worst because all the the dust crumbs show up on all black stuff. It's unclear what to wear. I think it's patterns. I've decided it's all patterns, because it has stains the most. That's why moms, you're like, why do moms and people in their 40s and 50s start to wear just patterns and spark?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Number one, it's because we're half dead inside. Chapel Rowan's right. And number one, it's cause we're like half dead inside. Chapel Rowan's right. And number two, it's because like we're just, there's nothing but stains and crumbs and random spatterings. And so you gotta have it all blended. It's called stain camo. That's what you're wearing. Stain camo.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. I'm just, I don't even, I'm so dead inside. I can't even, patterns do nothing for me that I'm just gonna wear all black. That's just where I'm at. You don't seem to be very, you're not a big pattern person. Not a big pattern.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I do like a bright color, but you know what? Just treat me like I'm on the New Zealand rugby team cause it's all black. Okay, all right, let's take a break. I didn't do my underrated. Oh shit, that's right. What the fuck? I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. So wow
Starting point is 00:14:05 I was looking at have one but now I was looking at my stonks and I couldn't believe it. Yeah Stracted no, no very briefly. I don't know if it's underrated Maybe it's perfectly rated but for me it was underrated because I was like, I don't really like these But because I got into the white lotus mood, I bought the white lotus cocktail book that I saw it was I buy like I buy it. And because this is how I roll, I like to drink anything that the people in the shows I'm watching are drinking. So I have the Downton Abbey cocktail book.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's very good. That got me through the pandemic. OK, OK. And it's very perfectly rated. I don't know about this cocktail book. We'll see. But then I just had an Aperol spritz and I was like, I didn't need a cocktail book to tell me how to make that. But yes, I will do it. And the Aperol Spritz is the perfect drink.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I will just say that. It sucks to be, my husband is sober, so I have to drink a whole bottle of Prosecco myself. No, but I had two of those while watching the light white Lotus finale. And it was good. It's a very good drink. I'm very into this idea that like whatever you see
Starting point is 00:15:07 on the screen is like, yo, I'm having that. Because I do that shit since I was a kid. Like I remember always seeing shit in movies and TV. I'm like, mom, how do I? Yeah. Like I remember when the Sopranos was on, I would fucking do this shit. Everybody would get together on Sundays
Starting point is 00:15:23 and we would eat Italian food and watch the Sopranos Oh, see that's great. That's why you realize like the amount of like, you know Smoking ads in the 50s or 60s or whenever it was like that is insidious. Like that shit absolutely works on people I I'd also got really into the narcos series, but they just drank whiskey and I was like can't really do that got really into the Narcos series but they just drank whiskey and I was like can't really do that. Yeah, yeah. I think part of that also comes from the fact that like if I as a kid I'd be like oh look at that thing from the show my mom would be like man we ain't getting that shit so then I think that built up into me and then as an adult I'm like there's nobody telling me I can't have what I'm
Starting point is 00:16:00 seeing on the TV screen. Yeah exactly. And I will eat baked ziti fucking three years straight. I know. I don't give a fuck. Just freeze it. Take it out of the freezer. Okay. All right. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:16:11 We're going to come back and just catch up with whatever is going on in the news. We'll do that right after this. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20 comes an all-new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. And Santi was gone.
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Starting point is 00:17:43 He actually is too good to be true. This is a con. I'm conning you. To get the Delano painting. We could do this together. To pull off this heist, they'll have to get close. And jump into the deep end together. That's a huge leap, Fernando, don't you think? After you, Chulito.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 And we're back. Wow. So the big thing I think that was trending over the weekend was definitely the performance of the stock market and how obviously that ties into the larger economy. Black Monday was trending for days, people were like, is it gonna be Black Monday? This is October 19 1987. Again, it fell 22 points that day. This time it was just more like a, just a shitty thud, little bounce back and then falling again, all that to say, not great.
Starting point is 00:20:36 All I know is I'm pretty sure when the graphs look like the lines are going nearly vertically down, that's not good. No, it's supposed to look like a heartbeat. That's how you know it's active and alive. Boop, boop. Right, right, right, yeah. Cause you imagine like, what would they say
Starting point is 00:20:52 if it was a flat line for a long time? That would probably also freak out capitalist. Where's the growth? Yeah, oh, exactly. It's not growing to the point that it'll consume us all. So yes, the numbers weren't great. I think, look, I think most people that bothered to take economists at their word
Starting point is 00:21:10 throughout this presidential campaign and at the start of the mentioning of tariffs were like, yeah, this is, I think, not going to be good. It sounds like this is going to be really bad and will only plunge us further into terrible, terrible situations. And now we have people on CNBC, like scratching their heads at what's going on. CEOs and hedge fund managers are currently screaming
Starting point is 00:21:30 at the top of their lungs. It's like $6.6 trillion was wiped out last week. And now they're acting like they got catfished by Trump or some shit. It's so weird to see those clips. They're like, this is actually, if you think about the prosperity under President Trump in his last administration, like we're headed for a new era of American blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:21:48 blah. And they're like, now they're like, what the fuck is this guy fucking doing? Is he fucking for real? We didn't vote for this. I voted for inequality and now I'm like equally fucked as other billionaires. I don't like this. Yeah. Not, not great.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I think the messaging though has been even worse around this because now many of Trump's economic advisors are now having to face the media over the weekend and everyone is doing some form of like, this guy isn't falling you silly kids. It's actually fantastic. Very, very frightening. Yeah, give him time. You know, it's very divided because anyone who doesn't work for the administration directly is like, this is bad.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Even the people who launder the administration's lies like Ted Cruz is like, well, you know, I don't think stock, you know, the tariffs are good forever, but, you know, for a small time, you know, like, but they're admitting like everyone's openly admitting that tariffs are taxes on people, usually. Mostly, in fact, that's exactly what they are. It's just a tax, it's simply a tax. And that, yeah, we pay higher prices, exactly. Right, Rand Paul is, obviously Rand Paul
Starting point is 00:22:56 is occasionally right on some things, and he's right on this. But then you've got Howard Letnick, who's out here, and I swear to God, the most, I haven't hung around a lot of people who like do that much cocaine, but like Lutnick, the commerce secretary is just giving the craziest energy right now. He's out here and he's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:18 we're going to bring these jobs back to the, to, to the United States. I mean, it's going to be automated, but there's going to be jobs. Let's play that clip because Howard Lutnick has been saying so so much double like it's everything it's it's gonna happen. It's not gonna happen This is a clip first where Margaret Brennan is asking him. Hey, like just just to start off the economy looks fucked The markets are fucking wailing. Do you think there's gonna be any kind of let up? And then he tries to do the thing about, no, and this is why it's going to be so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Here he is, Mr. Howard Lutnick, take it away. Is the administration considering any kind of offset, any kind of subsidy? You mentioned the first administration, there was some bailout to farmers to help them deal with the pain from Chinese retaliation. Are you looking at that now? Not that I've, I have not participated in any meetings with respect to that. The country is focused on, you realize, trillions of thousand factories are going to be built in America.
Starting point is 00:24:21 That's huge GDP. The factories being built in America are huge GDP. That takes years. And you said that robots are going to fill built in America. No, huge GDP. The factories being built in America are huge. That takes years. And you said that robots are going to fill those jobs. Well, they go Margaret Brennan then pushes back because he's like, there's going to be trillions of dollars in factory that we make now immediately. The factories that are being built, name one, show us. OK, well, well, well, well, well, what are you fucking Jacobin? I didn't come on here for this kind of fucking grilling session.
Starting point is 00:24:47 What do you forget? So okay, go on. She pushes back, that will take years and you are talking about motherfucking robots, sir. Years and you said that robots are going to fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs. It's automated factories, automated factories, but the key is who's going to build the factories, who's going to operate the factories, who's going to make them work.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Great American workers. You know, we are going to replace the armies of millions of people. Well, remember the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones that. I'm sorry, dude. We can't have the wonkification of tech industry where he thinks it's Oompa Loompas singing a song down a factory line like screw our little screws in. The millions of little hands. And it's just like he's like, you know, behind closed doors.
Starting point is 00:25:44 He's like, you know, these Asians with their little hands, Chinese with their swabbies. They're better than us. That's the thing. Have you seen the way they put these fans together? I mean, like, I can't believe it. We're screwed. We need people with little hands in America. Have you seen the hands on us?
Starting point is 00:25:59 He goes on and he's basically like, it's going to be amazing engineers and they're going to be, you know, high school graduates and you're like, Whoa, what is it? What is it? Is it like, is it automated? Is it a bunch of Americans doing screwing like little screws? Is that or is it engineers or is it high school? Like, what are you talking about here about here? It's just, it is so nonsensical. It feels satirical. This is like the most disturbing clip. And I likened it to being like America is being cornered in like the worst party in the world by a dude again, who's like so high on coke. And he's like, yo man, it's gonna be robots.
Starting point is 00:26:40 No, but it's gonna be like high school grad robots who are also like like it's so disturbing Were you at the Calvin Harris show like last week? Dude, what? Oh, man, sir. Do drink some water man. You're fucking the corner Your mouth looks like you got wheat paste or something in there. What the fuck is this? Like later on in this conversation with Margaret Brennan too. She's also like yo, dude What's up with like the fucking country countries also on this tariff list? Are y'all motherfuckers using AI?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Because a lot of people suspected they just put a prompt into grok and it spit out this formula. But here he is also talking about how the tariffs are like very genius and also stop looking at the countries that we fucking, we really levied tariffs against. Stand in the Rose Garden holding up that chart that you helped make. That wasn't actually tariffs.
Starting point is 00:27:28 That was actually confusing to investors because it was some kind of other formula. And the countries themselves seemed kind of random. Like, why are the herd and McDonald Islands, which don't export to the United States and are quite literally inhabited by penguins, why do they face a 10% tariffs? Did you use AI to generate this? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 The idea, look, the idea is- No. On the list. The idea is, what happens is if you leave anything off the list, the countries that try to basically arbitrage America go through those countries to... Okay here's the point too we have to really raise... Oh yeah yeah the penguins are gonna arbitrage they're gonna... They're gonna... There was one omission on that list I felt like of all the countries that I
Starting point is 00:28:17 kept looking down as going to Romania okay and then I just said them. Then we just wait. Where's where's Russia on here? Oh, it's not on there. Oh, okay. Amazing. Okay. Okay. And we're talking about it's every country. Did you miss us with all this bullshit, dude? What are you fucking? I was going to say I was at the, you know, like hands off rally on Saturday and there's still like a lot of Putin signs, you know, Trump is Putin's puppet. People are on that and it's like, you know, it's true. Like he doesn't do enough to dissuade the fact that we all know he's an asset effectively and Putin is
Starting point is 00:28:56 crushing it right now. Yeah, I mean, how are you gonna have like, you're gonna have Israel, this is my favorite part, Israel has got a 17% tariff, which is amazing. And some Zionist groups are like, why would you do this? We've done everything you asked, slash you've helped us with everything we want. You've helped us do everything we've ever wanted, yeah. Yeah, it's a very, very jarring thing,
Starting point is 00:29:22 but makes it so painfully obvious. And also like denying the use of AI when she's like, okay, why the fuck is Penguin Town and Unicorn Island on this fucking list? And he's like, no, we didn't use... That laugh was so guilt-ridden. It was pretty funny. Even if he didn't know exactly how it worked, he probably heard. And he's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Just explain it then. Then how did you come up with it? This is a gotcha show. And I didn't agree to any of this. That's probably what he's gonna fucking say. But anyway, then we had Kevin Hassett, who is the White House Economic Council Director. He was just out here with like the worst fake grin I've ever seen, just purely laughing off like every concern
Starting point is 00:30:08 that was being raised to him. In a way that was, I think even more scary because he's just like so coy. He's like, I don't know. Like, I just think everything's gonna be better. What are you talking about? People are freaking out. I wanna show what he wrote this week.
Starting point is 00:30:22 He said, the truth is the tariffs are taxes. They don't punish foreign governments. They punish American families. When we tax imports, we raise the price of everything from groceries to smartphones, washing machines and every other conceivable product. President's own vice president last term, Mike Pence said this is the largest peacetime tax hike in U.S. history. Your response?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Well, we just saw that the Senate has agreed to budget rules. He's smiling so big. And now that it's going to give the biggest tax cut in history in order to make space for these policies and to not have the runaway deficits that gave us all the inflation in the Biden administration. Then we've got an all the above approach where we're reducing taxes. This guy is just flailing and it's so hard to watch again, them just try and launder this terrible, terrible scheme of whatever. I don't, this is the other part.
Starting point is 00:31:12 When we were talking before, I'm like, I'm so back and forth on this is, this is part of a playbook. This is like a very violent wealth redistribution scheme. This is all part of a destabilization process. This is all part of making material situations in the US so bad that they can flip a switch to completely change our social norms on us. Then I see these people out there, I'm like, these people are beyond ignorant. They are beyond stupid.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I think they're just doing whatever. The thing is, I don't think they're stupid. I think they're doing what everyone else in the administration is doing, which is whatever Trump wants to do. And because he has set up his administration and of course Congress, which is very ironic that some senators are even speaking out against him because it's like your entire party has rolled over for this criminal president. They are making, you know, they're trying to put lipstick on a pig. They're trying to roll this turd and glitter and make it shine, baby. And I think, you know, during the Bush years, there was always this question we would have sort of consistently, which was like, is this just about the oil and the money like the Cheney or you've got like these true believers
Starting point is 00:32:26 like the John Ashcrofts or others who are like no we're in a literal holy war and we're going to kill them I think it's kind of like the broad analysis of colonialism generally it's like is this about spreading religion or is this about the money and the answer really is both exactly it's like it's oh the people like the Yarvins or the people, you know, like the Chamans, I forgot his last name, but the, you know, these billionaires who are also increasingly invested in crypto, they're like, this is all good because if we're creating a crypto national reserve, the dollar gets devalued. People obviously are going to be working for less money.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They're, none of these jobs are going to be union jobs. They're going to be desperate. Meanwhile, our crypto schemes are going to rise. So it is late stage capitalist accelerationism and they're banking on the people not doing shit about it. And I would like to argue otherwise. Yeah. Either way, I mean, like even watching crypto take a dive too, it's like, yeah, you know, like even though you say it's recession proof, it's still tied to people's financial outcomes. And when they see shit going south, they're going to be like, well, time to get rid of my digital coins to try and make some real money. It's all very, very, very wobbly at the moment.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And we'll talk even more in tomorrow's episode because the fallout isn't just limited to what we're seeing in the markets. Like the coalition of evildoers is also, they're starting to get a little bit sweaty here being like, well, I didn't think billions of dollars, I'd lose billions of dollars here. What's going on? And even Musk and Peter Navarro are fighting.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So, hey, we'll see. We'll check in with all of that soon. But let's move on to another big story. As you were talking about, over the weekend, there were many, many demonstrations, over 1,400 demonstrations around the world, not just in the United States, but around the world, protesting Trump. These are part of the hands-off demonstrations. And look, you'd say unless, look, if you don't have social media or know people who are out there or engaged in your own community, you might not have known that any of this even happened. I think Gil Scott Heron said, he said, the revolution will not be televised.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And one of the reasons is they don't want you to know that people are getting together to sort of make their, you know, displeasure known in very public protesting like settings. And you look around New York streets fucking filled. It looked like the end of World War II or some shit. The amount of people that were just crammed into the streets and then you're like, oh yeah, the New York Times probably.
Starting point is 00:34:59 What's, what are they saying? What's on, what's on the Monday, the New York Times? What are we seeing here? What are the Sunday New York Times? The story was about the environmental toll about the war in Ukraine. That's the front page thing. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Huh, oh, interesting. I mean, they did have one photo from one protest at the very bottom of the page that was like so zoomed in, you get no sense of the scale of the protest. It's just like a photo crammed with people with signs. And then it's like, if you want to know more, go to page 18. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Washington Post, similar thing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Their top story on Sunday, shout out fucking Jeff Bezos, their top story on Sunday was about a skier who died trying to jump over a highway last year. I mean, that's pretty tight. But like, if that skier who jumped over the highway had a like fuck Trump sign, they would not cover it at all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. If I'm maybe this like he was a magus, a magus gear.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And that's why they're covering it, too, because they're like, oh, this guy had a dream to jump over a highway, a busy highway, and it didn't work out. They had a little photo at the very bottom of the page also, just kind of teasing out what was going on. I mean, you know, these are some of the biggest demonstrations we've seen and we've been, you know, there's been this narrative of like, you know, are the people with it?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well, there's a man made, I don't know. What happened to the resistance? Yeah, where's the resistance gone? And like, I don't know, man, you guys were the resistance cause you actually covered this president, honestly. And now the people are making up for it and you're nowhere to be found. And it's not just like big newspapers, right? It's local, local news. It is, you know, local papers there. I think some of the most inspiring actions over the weekend happened in smaller towns where you're like people weren't they got
Starting point is 00:36:46 maybe like a couple hundred RSVPs and then you know a couple thousand people showed up flanking sides of the roads and whatnot like that is really important people are making connections and then you just like talk to folks um and they're clearly you know I think Ken Klippenstein interviewed some people in Madison, Wisconsin which you know is more liberal but but people are fed up with the Democrats too. There's plenty of anger to go around. It's not just about Trump. It is a lot about Democrats.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I spoke at the LA rally and shitting on them saying Chuck Schumer has to go and everyone was very on board with that message. So. Yeah, I think this is, that's why it's such a very, very instructive moment to know who is going to capture this energy in the right way. Because you can see the Dems start shape shifting in the shadows and coming back down.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm like, no, we figured it out, man. The status quo is bad and we got to change it, guys. Just come vote for us again. And I just feel like that brand is so tarnished. I'd hate to see it get co-opted by some other evil doing force, which I know that's kind of, that these are these moments in history
Starting point is 00:37:52 where you see that the population is ready to fucking put their energy in, needs a new outlet. And what are they gonna pour into? Because one of the other options is can become very problematic and be like, nah, maybe it is autocracy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Well, I think that's a really good point. I'm actually like a little bit, I agree with you, like I'm concerned as well, because I think if there were any moment for an established figure, AOC, to start something new and to make a break with a democratic party, because I do think it is very clear there are too many
Starting point is 00:38:26 Too many centrists to go through too many corporate interests to go through to before it is they will ever give you your Their your time your day in the light And I don't believe in just doing a like we're the third party, you know, just a random, you know Only when elections roll around, you know, Jill Stein rears her head again. No, it's got to be strategic. We need to be in Congress. Like that thing needs to think that all this needs to be part of Congress, dude, because that's where it gets lost. Yeah. Then there has to be the congressional progressive caucus, which is just kind of meaningless actually has to pull its weight. And the fact that I think it's a Maxwell Frost,
Starting point is 00:39:02 or I forgot I get Maxwell Frost and Greikessar confused. My bad, my bad, my bad. But you know, there is some new younger leadership in the Congressional Progressive Caucus, but they gotta do shit with that. Again, like you said, this is, there's a lot of bandwidth. Remember, political bandwidth is when people are tired of the status quo. Obama had massive political bandwidth
Starting point is 00:39:22 after eight years of Bush, and he really didn't do shit with it, to be honest with you. He was not able to do what he wanted. Obviously, that was also the dawn of dark money that David Axelrod did not take seriously and nobody took seriously. Corporations are completely buying our elections. Cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And so I'm like, you're absolutely right. If we don't see some new shit or some real ideas, it's just gonna be a Candace Owens, a Tucker Carlson, or someone on the so-called left, who's kind of just as unhinged and untethered and unaccountable to real people as other folks. And so I just, I worry, I'm not trying to police anything, but I'm just like, we gotta do this. But I mean, that's how people who are looking at like
Starting point is 00:40:06 movements and how they can use that energy to further their own goals. Like look at this and go, how do we get these people? Because in the same time too, you have more people who are quote unquote independents or like even Republicans who are like, what the fuck's going on? They're like, I didn't expect this.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Like the fact that people are even like, why is he doing that? That's kind of They're like, I didn't expect this. Like the fact that people are even like, why is he doing that? That's kind of new for like, as I'm like, not even a MAGA criticism, but a questioning. Because before it's like, yeah, dude, we're losing, man. We're winning. We're fucking brutalizing trans people. We're brutalizing immigrant.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, dude, it's all winning. It's all winning. Now be like, wait, my son's business actually can't function if there are these kinds of tariffs. And then my grandkids have no place to live in. And then why would he do this? And I think having another party that isn't branded as Republican or Democrat allows a lot of people who may have been Republicans or vote Republican to be like, oh yeah, I'll vote for this thing because they're not going to say I'm voting for a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Like because the Democrats brand ultimately has been just literally what Chuck Schumer says, which or, or, and James Carville wait around, play dead. And then in a few years, people like, hey, Democrats are looking pretty good. And that is a horrible strategy. And we've shown it doesn't work. Save, I don't know, maybe they're also praying for another global pandemic like the bird flu will. And you know, we'll resuscitate Joe Biden again, if he's still around. Like, this is the,. This is the dead end spiral of, I mean, honestly, a party that's kind of circling the drain and has been for a while,
Starting point is 00:41:32 it's just a bad brand in every way, shape or form. They don't have vision. And while we are in the majority and we are right, it is true that we don't have vision. It is true the Democrats are lacking their leaders or don't know good leaders when they hit them in the goddamn face. Yeah, or told when someone does emerge by other people
Starting point is 00:41:51 with interest in the party, like, no, I can never be that person. Like, and I'll tell you why. And like, we have to do everything we can to suppress that part. And look at the people that they've, Eric Adams is gonna be the future. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Gavin Newsom is gonna be the future, which honestly, my favorite arc in this whole moment is that Gavin Newsom is gonna be the future, which honestly my favorite arc in this whole moment is that Gavin Newsom is burning any possibility. I mean, he's gonna try, but like people are not happy and excited about him. Like I had to play Jane Fonda critiquing Gavin Newsom to my mom for my mom to be like, I don't know if I like Gavin Newsom anymore, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:22 I know. Cause like she loves Gavin Newsom and it's like, okay, but we can do so much better. Yeah, it's like look past his slicked back hair, okay? I know. He's an actual piece of shit. So yeah, very interesting times, but again, like when we talk about where is the resistance
Starting point is 00:42:38 and all of this stuff, it's just that again, the media just hasn't been covering it. Because as we've seen, like there was the People's March on Inauguration Day, and they're like, it wasn't even as big as the Women's March in 2017, the resistance is died. But again, research shown,
Starting point is 00:42:52 there have been more than twice as many street protests in February of 2025 than February of 2024. These things are increasing, like they are increasing in number. But again, they're just not being talked about. Hmm, it's weird. So, cause maybe the billionaires own the newspapers. All right, let's take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:46:59 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. You were talking about it, the White Lotus season finale occurred last night. While I am very, I think I'm only halfway through the season. And I think I'm only halfway through the season because I'm not excited to start the next episode. I'm like, all right, ah, get talk. Why'd you leave that blammer out full? Dang. Like that's where I'm at right now.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Anyway, all that to say the finale happened. I have a, I have text threads where people were like, what the f- like mixed reviews. I'm seeing people be like, Whoa, that was fucking wild. Or some people were like, that was fucking full of plot holes. And I do not like it. One thing, regardless of what you think is the New York post were like, that was fucking full of plot holes and I do not like it. One thing, regardless of what you think is, the New York Post is like, they posted some shit. They said, receding hairlines are suddenly sexy thanks to White Lotus hunk, Walton Goggins.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And then like the inset photo. Written by a bunch of New York Post fucking old crusty journalists who like got famous doing upskirt shots and like, yeah, we're back baby. Goggins core. That's the new fucking way I dress. Just big linen shirts, button opened up some kind of weird amulet necklace. But I guess they're pointing the fact that social media has so many people just posting how horny they are for Walton Goggins. So then they're like, yeah, okay, therefore, ipso facto,
Starting point is 00:48:28 receding hairlines are hot, this is the Walton Goggins effect and you can't do anything about it. Yeah, I just once said, quote, I love Walton so much. He's half forehead, half teeth, and yet it all works. The man is hot. He's got a lot of Steven Tyler energy. yet it all works, the man is hot. He's got a lot of Steven Tyler energy.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Oh shit, yo, yes, that big ass mouth, it feels like. Just the big ass mouth. First of all, I think it's important to understand that it's not the receding hairline, it's everything else that you just said. It is, he's looking very good for however old he is. His body right three button down it's the amulets it's the you know yeah they're like the confidence of a Hollywood star the confidence of a Hollywood star it is his little like you know dimples he is an attractive man yeah but but he's
Starting point is 00:49:21 definitely I don't know I look I got daddy issues and I was not into him. I thought he just looked crusty. Like he looked hella crusty, he looked tired. If they had given him like, you know, if his storyline had been different and he wasn't just sort of an anxious wreck the whole time, I might have been like, you know, hot, hot, hot. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a lot of people are just, look, Walton Goggins is just big right now. The people are really all in on that. Someone said, scientifically speaking, Walton Goggans is the hottest, weird looking guy or the weirdest looking hot guy that ever lived. Yeah, I don't know. Again, neither. He's just, he's just an attractive guy who decided to not shave his head and grow and grow
Starting point is 00:50:03 like a, you know a goatee, the way a lot of men with receding hairlines do. But you can pull, this gets pulled off in Italy. I lived in Argentina, gets pulled off there a lot. You just grow it a little bit long, again, the amulet, the button down. Just let it wave around. I think exactly, a lot of people later on the article
Starting point is 00:50:20 are just like, no, it's because he has charisma and he is confident. Exactly. That makes, no matter it's because he has charisma and he's confident. That makes no matter how you cut it or slice it, that works. And I think that's one thing I was always told when I was like, I remember asking my grandpa, he's like, how many girlfriends you got? I'm like, I don't have any girlfriends. He's like, oh.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And I was like, what do I do? He's like, just be you. He's like, just be you. He's like, that's the secret. And I was like, just be me? He's like, but I'm not tall like the other kids. He's like, just be you. He's like, just be you. He's like, that's the secret. And I was like, just be me. He's like, but I'm not tall like the other kids. He's like, you're funny. Do that.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And that was my ticket to the bottom, y'all. Just being funny. Yeah, what a time. People know what you look like, Miles. You can't just be like, oh, then I was funny to make up for how hippie-ish I am. No, not even that. No, no, not even that. Not even that. Well, no, I'm saying when I was younger, I was for how hippie as I am. No, not even that, no, no, not even that, not even that.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Well, no, I'm saying when I was younger, I was goofy. You know what I mean? Like I had a very awkward stage and I had braces and my shit didn't really start popping off to like my twenties, I would feel like, you know what I mean? I had this like, I was like this little kind of rat kid. I love my inner rat kid though, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:21 I honor you. But yeah, Walton Goggins, I think the secret there is just, he's a good actor and he's funny and he's... Look, y'all should watch the early episodes of The Shield and tell me if you're fucking with that Walton Goggins. That's how we'll really know because that's pre-Veneers and pre-plugs Walton Goggins. Okay? Let me know where my day was at.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You know what I mean? Oh, dog. Oh, whoa. You just Google that? Yes, yes. Different time. And that's when he was just a very interesting kind of character actor. And then over time, I think he just become this heartthrob. Oh yeah, Brian, that's what you're saying. I guess people forgot how motherfuckers were thirsting over Tony Soprano.
Starting point is 00:52:00 That was an era too, when people were really feeling the Tony Soprano look. Yeah, I mean, it was the tender moment with Carmella for me. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But also he's just like a, he's an Italian womanizer, right? It's just, it's all, it's nothing but confidence. Oh yeah, nothing but confidence and unleashed horniness. That's, I think what people are responding to. Wollongoggans is, sorry, last thing, he's just an attractive guy.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Stop trying to, he's not ugly. It's just the hair. I know, it is just weird. It's already written in this, like, the perspective is already fucked up, where they're like, who could love someone with a receding hairline, unless you're Walton Goggins? Sure, I guess.
Starting point is 00:52:43 But anyway, good news for the guys at the New York Post with receding hairlines who gained just a little bit more confidence from Walton Goggins. So in that way, you've done a service, although we don't need more people with more confidence at the New York Post, unfortunately. Goggins. Gog, my dog, good to see ya.
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