The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendsaaaap 12/4: Jan 6th Pipe Bomber, Zillow, RoboCop, Affordability Hoax, Costco, Olivia Nuzzi

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

In this edition of TrendsUp, Jack and Miles discuss the Jan 6th pipe bomb suspect, Zillow obfuscating climate related metrics on their house listings, Detroit's new RoboCop statue, Trump's "affordabil...ity hoax", Costco suing over Trump's tarriffs, more details on Olivia Nuzzi's new book and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Would you just be like friends? Friends? Friends. Yeah. But maybe that was like a common combining of two separate Bubweiser ads in their mind. It's fine. We accept it. Either way, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:38 You did great. First Blood 522. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Miles Gray. It is. Miles, you've been on a bit of a bit of a run finding good Instagram clips. Do you work in the industry? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:53 I'm 41. dude so like instagram reach out to you directly are they like sending these videos to you directly that's crazy man they're emailing you just find these on your own through the algorithm i'm just like scrolling dude and these like sick ass videos show up keep scrolling scrolling scrolling scrolling um all right uh this is the episode where we tell you what's trending on this thursday uh December 4th uh we got an arrest in the January 6th, pipe bombing.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Wow. Remember that? This is a blast from the past. Blast from the friggin past. I didn't remember that there, I do remember now that there's a detail that like somebody had planted pipe bombs all over the place. Yeah, right. In front of the Republican and Democratic Party headquarters the night before January 6th,
Starting point is 00:03:45 2021. 2021. Like, so at the time, I don't know if you remember you were like, it's Marjorie Taylor Green. People were saying there's all kinds of weird shit, people doing half-assed gait analysis on the suspect. The thing was, like, earlier, there was a woman who got caught up in this investigation who, I believe, like, worked for the, at the Capitol, like, doing, like, a Capitol officer. Uh-huh. But she became, like, a suspect because, like, the dubious analysis from, like, the Blaze media, Glenn Beck's outlet, and then Tulsi Gabbard willing to take that as the truth. So that was a bit of a weird hiccup there.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That woman was cleared, thank God, because she had nothing to do with it, aside from someone on, like, you know, the blaze being like, yeah, it's got to be this person. But now, I guess this is the person. Again, I don't know if I have faith. Do we have any information on who it is, or they're just like, we got them. They did give it. They did give the name some dude from Virginia. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Play the crab rave music.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I don't know. I mean, like, it's cash but. as FBI. So it could be fucking any. They might just be like, bro, we need a fucking win. So right. Just get somebody in here. We'll even arrest a white supremacist. Yeah. But what are the possible
Starting point is 00:05:02 motive? Like I guess the Blaze wanted it to be this sort of this woman because it would suggest that it was like an inside job by the mainstream Democrats. Is that the idea? Or just that you can't trust anyone who even works for
Starting point is 00:05:18 Capitol police. Like who are the enemy you know, recontextualizing. There's only one side of the aisle that knew that some shit was going to go down on January 6th, right? Like that was, it was not like, that was kind of a, Trump said, come here,
Starting point is 00:05:34 it's going to go down. And then people came there and had plans for, like, launching the overthrow of the government and hanging Mike Pence. So it does seem, like, I'd be highly suspicious if this person is not somehow, like,
Starting point is 00:05:50 plugged into that world. If they're just like, no, it was actually Antifa. Or like pure anarchist? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Other people are going out.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Do love planning bombs, I will say, but according to the early 20th century. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the one, the one dimension of it is apparently like, the FBI just sort of picked up the work that was being done in 2021 and 22. So it might not necessarily be like, look what we did. They're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's follow some leads.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I have no idea, like, where this is going to lead. But again, the headline is January 6th, Pipe Bomber arrested. So, hey, that headline makes it look like the FBI is functioning, doesn't it? They're fucking doing shit. They're putting in work out here. And it wasn't Marjorie Taylor Greene, the person from Virginia. No, no, some dude.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Let's talk about real estate, something we don't cover enough on this show. Yeah, yeah. How's your portfolio looking, man. I've got, I just closed on a fucking 43 unit building. These tenants. I mean, we talk about this a lot off mic, but these fucking tenants. Oh, my God. They're so selfish. But if you're another person talk about, you know, how they shouldn't be evicted because of some, look, everybody's going to fucking got bills. I got fucking bills. Why do you think I'm asking you to pay my fucking rent?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Hipshit. But yeah, the real estate. It's an interesting thing, particularly for me as somebody who used to live in a, used to own a home that burned down in a fire. Drug fire or? No, no, wildfire, that's right. Yeah, yeah. I really wish it was.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Aw, man. God, one more time. Yeah. For mass shootings. Exactly. So if you've been on websites like Zillow or Redfin, you probably notice there's like a section along with like square footage or other relevant. he tells about a home.
Starting point is 00:07:51 There's also, like, data about, like, air quality or, like, fire risk or flood risk. Shut up. And other climate-related liabilities. Tsunami zone. I don't give a fuck. Oh, my God. Get this out of my, get the, so, oh, so they're printing fake news on Zillow and Redfin. Wow, that's not what I come to those places for.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah, I come to see how much my grandma's house is worth. So when she finally kicks it, I can flip it for fucking Lambo money. So apparently now, Zillow has just removed that information. because I guess a bunch of real estate agents were complaining, quote, Zillow has now deleted this climate index after complaints from real estate agents and some homeowners that the rankings appeared arbitrary, could not be challenged and harmed house sales. The complaints included those from the California anyways, blah, blah, blah, blah. Zillow said it remains committed to help Americans make informed decisions about properties, which listings now contain outbound links to the website of First Street, which is the nonprofit climate risk quantifier that used to put the data there. So, like, oh, we're still linking it off. We just don't want to put bummer shit on it so, like, affects your decision to buy a house in this overinflated housing market where nothing is affordable. People, like, have argued the data is actually, like, undermining confidence in climate science by giving, like, broad analysis about climate risk on a specific plot of land.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But I think overall, this information is relevant. I think the larger part of it, I don't think people are saying, oh, my God, people are, don't believe in climate. it changed because of the Zillow listings that's I think a bridge too far but I do think it is important I think for anyone you know like you're looking again I was living in a place that just got skull fucked by a wildfire and it
Starting point is 00:09:33 was in there and I even looked at the maps I remember in the beginning before he moved in that like showed my place was like on the brink of like the danger zone for like a fire right and most people were like it would take something like truly horrific for it going into like an urban base
Starting point is 00:09:49 and like that. And I'm like, okay, I think we're good. They're making a face like they're doing the jackoff hand motion. It would take something truly just like once in a generation or once every seven years. Now the climate changes. Yeah, I'll tell you who does have access to this information is insurance companies. So if you're if you're making a big purchase, you should probably check it out is probably a good idea. Yeah, because also too, like you don't want to know you're in a flood risk area and then
Starting point is 00:10:18 I mean, like, do I need flood insurance or whatever? Yeah, trust me. Somebody who is underinsured, shit, bro, keep your wits about you. But I think the big deal here is that the housing market is just so fucked up and unaffordable that I think this data is just more prominent. Right. The industry is like, what do we do? It's like, it can't be the unaffordability of it all.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It has to be that someone's being told they live in a place with bad air quality, Los Angeles. Right, right. the yeah that they're like this is what people do for fun this is like their their wish casting they're just like looking at houses and being like man could you imagine so don't fucking bum them out yeah yeah the message god just i don't know the affordability i think it's the i don't think it's the it's the market itself it's not the fucking zillow listings ah put that on like page seven you know not page one we don't want to see that up front we don't want to bum them out yeah yeah yeah well anyway like i said i'm doing great uh like i said just closed on a 43 unit building
Starting point is 00:11:23 um that's right about to kick everybody the fuck out man and i don't have to pay insurance so you know yeah yeah oh yeah that's on yeah you got you got tenant insurance you should see the fucking contracts i make these people sign it's crazy the rent hikes are fucking baked into the legal contract they sign it does remind me of how the trump administration like various corporations were like and now that our prices are going to go way up because of tariffs we're going to start listing that in the prices and then that that got shit canned yeah yeah exactly how corporations are allowed to present information is going to be interesting yeah i mean again it becomes less and less profitable yeah to tell people the truth yeah i don't i don't know i don't
Starting point is 00:12:11 know what the solution is i certainly don't trust uh the republican party to figure out what the solution. I think the housing crisis. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about Robocop. Detroit has finally honored its greatest resident. Oh, no, no, no. An 11-foot-tall bronze statue of Robocop.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You don't know who's in the Robocop gear. I mean, you assume it's Peter Weller, but it could be Eminem. I'm going to say it's Jay Dilla. That's my favorite Detroit person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like there, the argument was basically, people, were like, well, could we not fund this with taxpayer money since Detroit is the poorest city with over 500,000 people? And like, I think over half the population lives under the
Starting point is 00:12:58 poverty line. And so they, it ended up being a big debate. On the one side, it was people being like, dude, Philadelphia has rocky. Why don't, like, this is our rocky. Let's do robocop statue um and on the other side was people being like i don't know maybe maybe we could take that money and fund food banks for all the very hungry people in our yeah rocky's kind of like an underdog story if i remember and this is about a fucking robot cop in a dystopian police state yeah yeah like how much of this is people just being like that movie ripped and how much of it is people being like this would be the answer if we could just get elon musk to release a no idea i mean like i get it like robocop iconic sure uh Detroit great but like
Starting point is 00:13:50 you said you might have bigger problems and figuring out how to honor a robot cop yeah movie he he also was sick in that KFC campaign did you ever see that ad no i saw the image of it and i'm like the colonel is just at a at a banquet style southern like it looks like a dinner from jango unchained but the colonel is in a robocop suit and somebody says how do you like make it taste so good and he says if I told you I would have to kill you and everyone gets real quiet and then he starts going ha ha ha ha ha and then everybody starts laughing it's very very strange stops laughing wow yeah then he stops laughing and gives a very serious look to the camera like I'll fucking kill you if you try and come from my special recipe how much
Starting point is 00:14:41 How much did it cost? $67,000. Jesus. 11 feet tall miles. It's 11 feet tall. It's bronze. He's kind of thick. Like, they kind of gave him real thick legs.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I don't remember. His legs are off to me. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, it almost looks like he's a child that was placed into the robocop suit. Yeah. They're like too high on his hips or something. They should have had. you come in to consult on this? I'm just saying, man. They wouldn't have humiliated themselves
Starting point is 00:15:15 with this awful robot statue. Ridiculous. But anyways, like, the, the statue was finished in 2017, but nobody wanted, like, at first it was going to be in front of the Michigan Science Center, which that one actually makes sense to me, because it's like, yeah, you want to, like, bring kids to the Science Center, and I guess dystopium robotic killing machines are kind of sciencey. Sick, carceral technologies. Yes. You got to get them pointed in that direction. But it ended up being in the eastern market area outside the free age video production studio, which also, I guess, seems appropriate.
Starting point is 00:15:54 At one point after they completed the statue, but like when they couldn't find a place to put it, the mayor of Stevens Point, Wisconsin, birthplace of actor Peter Weller, tried to take the statue off Detroit's hands. And then there was like a feud where they were like, no, fuck you. And he was like, fuck you. I'm going to, and then like when they wouldn't give it to him, he was like, I'm going to 3D print a robocop statue that will be 12 feet tall. Oh, hold that. What's up?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh, my God. Wow. Maybe just pay attention to the people that fucking need help. Yeah. I mean, like, honestly, I wouldn't give a shit about a robocop statue. But like, in the context of just municipal funds being spent in the dumbest ways, like, like, yeah get the fuck out of here i don't so eventually they it was crowdfunded um because because of that and then there was okay i will say like there might have been an overall net gain because of this
Starting point is 00:16:55 because one online argument about the idea of like funding a robocop statue it was like a hollywood screenwriter and a comic book artist and they ended up founding a robo charity which encouraged robocop fans to donate money to the forgotten harvest food bank so they were like Hey, if you think this is a good idea, maybe. Maybe helps the people of Detroit. How would we call it Robo Charity, huh? Oh, yeah, yeah, go on. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And I think there is like $8,000. So, uh, all right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around. Just go directly to the source, Lenovo.com. It's your last chance to score exclusive deals on the gaming PCs you want, like the Lenovo Legion Tower 5 Gen 10 gaming desktop and Lenovo Locke gaming laptop.
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Starting point is 00:20:29 In season two of Rip Current, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Barry? And why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And just another update on the hoax that Donald Trump identified, aka affordability. Yeah. What is that? That doesn't mean anything to anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Nobody even knows what you're talking about. That's just a thing that. You guys say to me, the people who I surround myself with, yes, men, they never say anything about affordability. It's something the left came up with. The yes men and billionaires that I surround myself with at my private golf club never use that word. So it's not real. It's just you weirdos in the media. There was just a political poll that shows that even his voters are starting to blame him.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah. Yeah. yeah that's not good that's probably not good i mean like the whole thing with just yelling a hoax at someone's lived experience is that it only serves to soothe the feelings of the person yelling hoax yeah because meanwhile reality ticks on uh in this case the affordability crisis um but i think like to your point now that that polling has come out and his own voters are like uh yeah i think wait so trump's the president and the republicans of the senate and the house and the supreme court. Yeah, actually, I think
Starting point is 00:22:36 yeah, this, I think this is Trump's fault now. So now, they have basically taken that like affordability whistle stop tour that they were teasing last month and kicking it into high gear now. But the plan's the same. Go to battleground states. I think it's kicking off in
Starting point is 00:22:51 Pennsylvania next week and just say shit like, I did all this shit for the economy already that you aren't giving me credit for. What the fuck? And it is working. It's working. It's, uh, There are some small improvements we can make, but it is working, and you actually aren't experiencing what you think you're experiencing. This is, to be fair, also the strategy that was employed to great effect by the Biden administration when people are like, why the fuck is everything so expensive?
Starting point is 00:23:22 What's your fucking problem? And he was like, what are you? We got the best economy of all time. Look at the line. Jack, it's going up. Yeah. What the heck? You guys are bad.
Starting point is 00:23:33 out of year than a bat or something. I got to lay down. It's slow up top. It's slow up here. Yeah, yeah. It ain't churning as quickly as it used to. This is from an axios right of quote. White House aides see Trump as a Republican Party's best salesman and its best chance to reverse
Starting point is 00:23:50 falling poll numbers for both the president and his party. I feel like they're working with old data there. Like he was the best salesman during the campaign that when he could just be like, I'm actually going to fix it on day one. If I feel like it, yeah, I'll probably do that. Player hating from the sidelines, I believe is what they called. Since that time, his name has become associated with basically the Epstein files and saying affordability is a hoax while people starve.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And also starving people intentionally by like cutting like snap funds and basically doing everything you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dismancing the government. Yeah, all that stuff. But the article goes on to say, but AIDS, privately acknowledge that there's more to be done to address cost of living concerns.
Starting point is 00:24:36 No shit.com slash are you fucking for real. HTML and say that on this trip Trump will also preview upcoming plans. Oh, what are those? A blockbuster music gift card on every dining table? I can't wait to see what these are. These are going to be good ones. I mean, look, right now
Starting point is 00:24:54 he's floated checks for tariff checks or something. Yeah, do that. That's a good start. There's no support like that has to be happen in congress and the house is already like no what are you talking about you know how much money that is like we're like we have no we have the austerity guys and then 50 year mortgages was the other one where it's like well then it'll make your payment lower it's like yeah and you'll never pay your home off because of interest right accruing for 50 fucking years
Starting point is 00:25:24 what are you saying so i don't know that i'm sure it's going to be some it's probably going to be a mix of a half truth that might be able to happen, but sounds just believable enough that people might think differently, although I doubt it. Yeah, it doesn't seem likely. All right, Costco is
Starting point is 00:25:44 suing over the tariffs. Did the Supreme Court like say the tariffs were, or like some court was like, these are not legal? Well, right now, the Supreme Court did hear arguments last month, like in November,
Starting point is 00:26:00 because people are challenging Trump's authority to, they still haven't made a decision on that. But that hasn't stopped companies like Costco filing a lawsuit in the U.S. Court of International Trade. Because what they're doing is like, well, if the Supreme Court's still deliberating, and if they say this shit is illegal or, you know, that wasn't supposed to be implemented in the first place,
Starting point is 00:26:21 then run me my fucking refund for all these fucking tariffs I just paid. Right. And other companies are basically, I think, also filing lawsuits to sort of get a place in line as it is to be like, well, bro, I was here suing before anybody. So you better get run me my tariff money back. And now this has led to like a bunch of MAGA influencers and people on the internet saying shit like fucking Costco's treasonous for fucking for trying to go against fucking the tariffs and things like that. One guy posted, bye, Costco after doubling down on nonsensical DEI social justice.
Starting point is 00:26:58 practices. Costco is doing Trump administration for full refunds of the president's tariffs. If you didn't have a reason to sell your Costco stock and cancel your memberships before, you do now. Refuse to fund their attack on what the people voted for. No, no, no, no, you didn't vote for this. Damn. I bet that has like so many upvotes and everybody's going to start doing it and Costco's a lot of shitter. A lot of people quote unquote canceling their, but like, sure. That's great. Remember how well that worked with like Nike. Yeah, Kyrig, Volvo.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I think Costco is in a very interesting position because of all the companies, like they're trying to do something somewhat, like keep their prices stable-ish. You don't want to charge more for like their hot dogs, like certain things like the CEO's like, bro, I can't, we're not, we have to have some floor here or like a ceiling here
Starting point is 00:27:47 for like what our fucking hot dog will cost. And a lot of people are like, please don't fuck the. I mean, obviously prices have gone up and down. All that to say is the DEI outrage mob could have jumped ship like how these people are referencing well they go all woke
Starting point is 00:28:00 like when Costco full-throated came out and said diversity is like fucking really good when you want to sell shit to people just so you know that's our philosophy which is a note that Target missed and now like they're basically in opposite situations
Starting point is 00:28:14 I mean this does like when it comes with the Supreme Court the idea of Costco bringing a case against the Trump administration does make me like that that is the one legally protected group in the United States is like massive corporations
Starting point is 00:28:31 that make a shitload of money, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do feel like they can go up against, like granted, we can't always or usually trust them to do the right thing, but this does feel like something that if I was in the Trump administration, I'd probably be a little bit worried about. Yeah, but I think at the end, I mean, at the end of the day, there, the mentality of this administration has been like, we're just going to bring corporations. to heal with whatever tactics we want to use.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I mean, we've already seen that with the tech industry, although part of that is very much beneficial for their, you know, fake AI industry at the moment. But you know what? Good luck to those people canceling, you know, hopefully you'll, you'll send them a message, but Costco did report 8.1% sales growth in November. Yay. That's our good.
Starting point is 00:29:21 That's the corporation that we root for. Those are the good guys. Corporation Pokemon, I choose you. And I just want to touch on this Olivia Nuzzi book, because I've read little excerpts from, so this is the woman who had the affair with RFK. Did she have an affair or was like digital affair? What's the... It was apparently an emotional affair, according to her.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And then her ex seems to dispute that. It was the one that gave us RFK's weird, like, sex poetry. where I'm going to push your cheeks together until your mouth opens and then run through you, like water, run through a canyon. I forget exactly what it was. It wasn't like sexy. It sounded like waterboarding. But there are, first of all, so she released this book that is the memoir of like her experience over the last year of like having her relationship with Ryan Liza fall apart in the aftermath of the RFK thing. But she kind of became a cause-seleb, like, in the mainstream media, because, you know, there was a lot of attention around her, and it is an interesting story.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And she had this memoir coming out about this, and she's, you know, a writer that people liked. And the memoir came out, and it, at least with regards to critics, it bricked. They're like, this is not good. So, like, Vanity Fair had already made her the vanity. Fair West Coast editor, and the book came out, and they were immediately like, we're going to have a conversation on our end about what to do here. They immediately were like, oh, this is not good. So we were under the impression that this book was going to be good. Right, right. The New York Times called it aggressively awful and regrettably self-serious, pointing out that it's not even much of a tell-all
Starting point is 00:31:17 because she doesn't name many of the people involved. Like, she just calls RFK Jr., the politician. and so you have to like Google to like figure out who you just to like make guesses as like who these people are but there's also like it's worth reading some of the some of the excerpts and I just want to read this one to you it's about a trip to the WWE Hall of Fame that you wanted to take she is she a big wrestling fan I don't know man uh she said there's always something new to consider or something to consider in a new way In that spirit, I called W.W.E. Headquarters. Sorry, not possible, the receptionist said. Not possible? I asked. Visiting would be impossible, she said. My eyes narrowed. I looked out the window of my newsroom and the Frank Gary building on the Hudson River that looked like a big block of glacier ice. I did not like to be trapped any place, even somewhere I considered architecturally defensible. And I had wanted to escape today, had been counting on this opportunity to escape. The news of the impossibility. of a visit to the Hall of Fame depressed me.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It's private, I asked. There's no place to visit. The receptionist said. No place, I asked. Right, she said. It moved? I asked. No, it's, you know, an idea, she said.
Starting point is 00:32:39 An idea. The hall of, she cut in. No hall. There's no hall. She said. Then what is it? I asked. It's an idea, she said.
Starting point is 00:32:48 An idea. She had mentioned that already. It doesn't. doesn't exist, I asked. Well, it exists, she said. Where? I asked. As an idea, she said, it was a place only in imagination.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Oh, my God. She, like, right. That was fucking awful and humiliating. It's so humiliate. Like, every segment, like, I just found out about J. Our writer J.M. put this one in, but I had, like, the guys on Chapo, Travehouse, like, read an excerpt from it. And it's all this shit where it's, like, pseudo-literary.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like, she's not saying anything. Yeah. And it's, like, she just, like, tries to literature up these just, like, nonsense things where, like, yeah, that's the thing people know that the WWE Hall of Fame is actually, like, not a place. They haven't, like, created the place yet. And so it's just, like, a thing that where they nominate people and it becomes a news hook, but they're cheap. And so they didn't, like, actually go through the process of building a hall of a town for, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, to treat that piece of. information as this like fucking literary wannabe who's on first thing that ends with it was a place only in imagination like it there's something profound about it instead of just like you know summarizing it in a sentence like i just did just seems yeah so dumb condense that whole page into i mistakenly thought the w w wa hall of fame was a physical place but when i called it was revealed to me that it's merely just referencing the concept of a Hall of Fame where the greats are, you know, fucking acknowledged or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Let's bring some fucking. She like, there's like three, there's like fucking three acts to this. It's like, I'm curious. I'm trapped in a freight Gary building, but I hate being trapped. And then she said, even if it's architecturally defensible. And then you sound like a, even the way it's written, I can, I can tell this person on the phone is smarter than you because they're like, it's, it's not real. it moved no it's you know it's an idea an idea there's no hall yeah then what is it it's an idea
Starting point is 00:34:57 it doesn't exist i mean well yeah it exists as an idea it was only a place in imagination it reminds me of if jena moroni from 30 rock wrote a memoir you know like overly dramatic dumb as rocks like dumber than the people around her but like just in her own shit i mean this makes sense because i did i think it was in the guardian i saw an english journalist just panning this book too. You're being like you, your journalists take themselves so fucking seriously. Yeah, that one too. Are y'all okay?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Like, we even know there's some silliness about it. But like, come on, y'all. You can't think this shit is really banging. Right. Do you? I think she did. I think she really was like, move over Joan Didian. I'm about to fucking be the shit.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Oh, me? The square root of 64? Because I ate. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday, December 4th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.
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