The Daily Zeitgeist - Trendver Nuggets 6/14: Denver Nuggets, Jokic, Bambi, Jack Smith, UPS, Reddit

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

In this edition of Trendver Nuggets, Jack and Miles discuss the NBA champs and that Big Jokic Energy, the upcoming live-action Bambi film, Jack Smith: new lib savior, UPS teamsters finally getting AC in their delivery trucks, and the Reddit Blackout explainedSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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PG. Yeah, I'm Jack. That's Miles. Yeah. This is our second crack at it. The first one was too dynamic. We were blowing up the mics. Too dynamic. It was blowing the microphones out.

Yeah. But yeah, I feel like Jokic energy has taken the internet by storm I feel like a lot of people just watched the final game of the finals and are like wait this guy

is ridiculous they're like does this guy give a shit that he just won I don't know I mean yeah he does but also he's just I guess let's just mean yeah he does but also he's just i guess let's just play the operative clip when he's being asked about hey excited for the parade and he's like what a parade coming up in denver when is parade when is parade when is parade thursday no no i need to go home

okay hands over his eyes um just fucked up worst news he's gotten that day is that there's going to be a championship parade he went and fucked everything up and went and won the damn thing and now he has to go to a damn championship parade yeah it's half performance art half like sincerely leaning into your feelings and not just doing the media trained thing about being like yeah it's going to be great to celebrate with all the fans you know in our town he's just going i gotta go home man yeah he like there's also a great five second video clip of him celebrating the championship by shaking champagne in the most

half-hearted way that anybody has ever done that um and then it felt contractually obligated yes we need to get the champagne yeah i think it's just like there's just something cool about being so good at something and then outwardly being like and i don't give a fuck you know what i mean and then i think also his energy is big. People just hating their job and just wanting to go home. Everyone connects to that one. It's a job-hating king,

this guy. I also think he's just fun. One time, I think we talked about it on Miles and Jack on Matt Boosties, during the second round, they had won the first two games in a series against Phoenix, and someone was like, so do you expect them now to come out with more energy in game three?

And he gave an answer to the effect of, no, my friend, I think they'll surrender and give us the wins. It was just very deadpan. He seems like a genuinely funny, weird person. Yeah. They're going to play her? No, they're going to surrender and fall down. Anna's read on this is that my thoughts that he's leaning into this for comedic effect are incorrect.

She said, you haven't spent enough time with an immigrant dad who has to go home. Yeah. Which, yeah, may be the case. I get it, too. And for someone who's not american like and who is famously being like when i'm not here i go back to serbia with my horses where i prefer to be bro i'm trying to get back these horses no offense to denver but i'm about these horses they need to let him ride the horses and like ride in his little horse sled that is built for people like one third his size down the main street of

denver that's right he makes a clydesdale look like a quarter horse when he's on top of it where's big news for those of us who love uh the disney live action remakes sarah polly you know one of our most promising young up-and-coming directors directed Women Talking this year. Also from the movie Go from 1999, obviously. Actor and now director. Won an Oscar for the screenplay for Women Talking.

Could have any job and is currently in talks to direct the live-action Bambi for Disney. This sucks, Miles. No, no.

Look, I get Lion King. I get Jungle Book. I even get Little Mermaid to an extent. You're not hanging out in the tropical ocean looking at crabs that close. Most of us have seen a deer. You know what I mean and like they are very low energy although i might be saying i don't like this because bambi was one of those

original films like traumatized me because i didn't like the like when the mom gets got you know in the beginning yeah that like fucked me up so in a way i'm also averse to bambi because i don't like i don't like that part one of the most like that part. One of the most reliant, I'd say probably the most reliant of the Disney animations on the animals being able to emote and be like anthropomorphized and seem

friendly and adorable and not just look like they are in a nature documentary. And as of yet, if the Little Mermaid is any indication, well, I haven't seen it, but we interview film expert Daniel O'Brien

on tomorrow's episode, and he did see it and confirmed that just having nature documentary style animals whose lips move like they're talking continues to be a problem for these live action Disney

movies. People love it. I can't imagine, unless they have some technology that they figured out to make a little rabbit have the personality of Thumper. They just need to skip this one. Or what if it's heavy? Sarah Pauly's like, yeah, I'll do it.

I'm talking about these isolated Mennonite women women like we're gonna go there with bambi and it just fucks kids up i mean then maybe i'll be in for that and like the opening oh my god like the mother getting kills it's like super gruesome yeah you get to see them like clean the deer and yeah it goes back just a it's like the barbie thing it's like an existentialist thing where the animals become self-aware and they're like ah what is happening and then like they team up to kill the hunters next time they're like yeah okay let's get them this time maybe this could be the movie that we've been pitching where all the animals you it's okay it's the happening meets jaws and birds combined the animals turn on humanity why has this not happened yet and it's okay it's the happening meets jaws and birds combined the animals turn on humanity

why has this not happened yet and it's just called bambi maybe it's in the works yeah it's called bambi um it also feels like this thing like studios do this a lot too where they take someone who's like not necessarily like a blockbuster director like an indie darling type director and then they put them at the helm of a super high budget film yeah because to also give like you know any kind of like have a fall person too like if the things don't go right they're like well i mean obviously this young director that was the problem not our idea yeah colin trevorrow was like this director who made this really small movie called safety not guaranteed that was was kind of like a mumblecore time travel thing.

But really, the whole charm of it was that you felt like you were watching a small indie film. And then there were these fantastical elements built into it. And the lack of effects and the lack of like you know glossiness kind of played into what was good about that movie and they took him from that and were like you're directing jurassic world now and your job is to just say yes to all of our notes right and like that seems to be the genuine like direction that a lot of careers go and like that that seems to be like i'm all for you know mixing in the blockbusters i love blockbusters i think a lot of times they're they're great but like when you're taking really promising young talent and being like your job

is to let the marketing department direct your film like that's kind of a fucking bummer that that's you know a direction that some careers are taking that could otherwise be promising um so hopefully uh sarah paulie is just in talks and is not doesn't sign on and maybe yeah and go hard sarah paulie advocate for the movie you want to make yeah yeah like we're thinking are there even songs what are the songs in bambi i don't remember i feel like it was just a pretty straightforward snuff film about bambi's mom in my memory because like that's the thing that sticks that's the only thing i remember everyone yeah i know there's

thumper and i know the mom gets killed in the beginning yeah and then but it's really just a lot of like the cutest animated animals you've ever seen literally batting their eyelashes at you. Right. Yeah, exactly. Can you imagine? They do it all real. It's like the deer got gunk in its eyes and shit. And you're like, ugh.

Wipe your face off. Jack Smith. He's given Jacks. He's put Jacks back in the spotlight. And I'm psyched. Team Jack, baby. Liberal Jesus. Yes. jacks uh he's put jacks back in the spotlight and i'm psyched team jack baby uh liberal jesus yes he's the new lib savior um and look he's going after trump for the stolen documents if you if you haven't heard but people again we'll talk about it on tomorrow's show like

there's merch coming out people are loving the jack smith vibes you see people display names changing to like jack smith stan account um but this one line of reporting is getting a lot of love from the jack smith fans uh hugo lowell of the guardian and other people who are in the courtroom said that mr smith sat in the front row during trump's arraignment on federal charges of documents after leaving the white house and quote stared towards the former president for essentially the entire appearance oh he's mad dogging trump dude what if he's just a big fan though like what if he's just really into him he's like what's he gonna do getting cold feet though too he's like oh my god does this guy really deserve it oh my god is he gonna kick my ass this guy's gonna kick my ass man i know it what jack i'm sorry bro complete coward that would be amazing we'll look at a clip of him on tomorrow's episode but i i think he needs to give more uh doing all of this begrudgingly like yokich energy yeah i mean yeah or have the energy of being like man they're not

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died you know because of heat stroke there are other people who've said they've had like terrible health outcomes because ups's policy is like you got to turn the car off when you're not using it at a red light or whatever to not waste gas and it's like then you will not have ac on if you have to turn the fucking car off right um and then now they're like adding they're saying like we'll add heat shields too. Like we get that the engine also make heat and that's not good for human bodies. Um, so, you know, they're doing the bare minimum. Uh, they still haven't ratified a new agreement. So, you know, uh, we'll see where that goes because that would be a gigantic, massive

disruptive strike if they, uh, if they, if they went that way. But again, that's what you got to do when you you know when you got to treat your workers uh with you know the bare minimum give them a fair wage or not expect them to cook in a fucking car when we're facing this kind of fucked up climate change every day people who are anti-union i'm just always like how do you how do you spin this one when the union's like, could you just not bake them alive? Could we do that? The people who I know who are not all in on unions are the most non-confrontational,

I don't want to rock the boat type of people. Sure. Yeah. Two. Personally, who I've talked about and they're like, well, why would they? I'm like, because this. Because that's how you get shit. This is the only way that the company will protect the physical fucking safety of the people who literally drive their

business and it's also people who are typically in areas of work that they're doing well and there's no concept of like well why would you oh well i wouldn't do that it's like yeah because you're a fucking wolf you have some kind of advanced degree and you're like you have a lot of money yeah and also something i mean we've talked a lot of uh delivery driving recently and we talked to uh a domino's delivery driver and uh i think chrissy yamaguchi name was was pointing out to us that like delivery driver is an incredibly dangerous job just like yeah being a driver in general out on the roads but yeah delivery driver is really dangerous you're out there with other cars you're out there with um racist and well-armed americans like it's yeah again it's more it you are more likely to suffer

injury or death than a police officer yeah because police officers i mean not just because but like police officers have strong unions that fucking work on their behalf unfortunately in that case all right reddit the reddit blackouts are going down still going down can't get to some of my favorite subreddits uh there's a big protest happening yeah jack i know you're we're not fans uh just get no um we don't like protests so uh over two and a half billion reddit users have gone dark on the platform in protest of recent api changes where basically like reddit has always had trouble making money like they still seem to be stuck on like just old like banner ad type oh dude like the ads are just like so bad on reddit to the point

where like you like people get hostile like just not wanting to see them and like they get no engagement but i get why people want to advertise it because so many people go on to reddit but it ain't working that way and you know they just have an extremely savvy like user base who is probably more ad averse than the average user base yeah so it's all to do with like api access and so how someone who uses a third-party application that isn't made by Reddit, how they can communicate with the Reddit service and their servers. And a lot of moderators who mod subreddits use third-party apps,

like Apollo is a really popular one. Reddit is fun is like another popular one. And so basically what's happening is Reddit is charging like a fee for the amount of requests that come through from like a third party app to reddit and they're monetizing on that so the head of apollo was basically saying look with the amount of requests that come like through our app we'd basically be paying two million dollars a month

it would go from free to yeah yeah exactly and reddit's like well we're gonna have some like you know there'll be other apps that fall under this like free api agreement but it but the most heavily used ones aren't those and a lot of people talk about how like if you have like vision impairment or other things like that like the reddit app doesn't have sort of features that would help for something like that and the reddit app the native one is not fucking that great so it's caused like a blackout and like many you know, subreddits have been like, are we, are we going to join in?

Other people have been like, what's the point of doing it for two days? Like if nothing's going to change and other people are like, should we do it longer? And it is, I get like why, you know, this is something to keep an eye on because yeah,

they're just trying to figure out how to just extract more money out. But I guess for them, they're like, we don't need these third party apps, like taking the content of reddit and being able to monetize that in their own way so now you give us money reddit like feels like the one we we've talked before about how like the internet eventually needs to be treated as a public utility like you know so many jobs that that would be created because there are so many like moderation, content moderation, just like fact checking,

all these things that currently don't exist on the internet and make it like a very dangerous place for humans, for especially the elderly who aren't savvy enough to know what's real and what isn't. Like Reddit feels like it's the closest to just like, that would be an easy trade. Just have a government budget that could go towards keeping reddit alive it's a public utility yeah just make it a public utility

it's like just be like this is the front page of the internet like it doesn't make money because the people like don't it doesn't fit into any like real profit model so let's just fucking you pay for it with taxpayer dollars and use that money to actually have it be moderated and functional like i feel like that would be a good idea that everybody would be on board yeah well everything's just about making money now and you know when you don't have a good way to make money from advertising they're just now saying well then why don't we just screw over people who like work for free to make this place even worth visiting? That's why it's all very fucked up.

And, and like a lot of people like all over the place with how committed they are to a blackout. Like I saw like in the Denver nuggets subreddit, they're like the blackout coincides with us about to win an NBA championship. And this is my only community to communicate to other Nuggets fans and like, at least to celebrate. And they're like,

fuck it. We ain't going dark. Like executive decision. We got to celebrate this W together. Yeah. I feel like whoever's organizing the blackout just needs to be like, we got to give it to these Nuggets fans, guys.

Like they haven't ever had anything to celebrate. This is awesome. All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, June 14th. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.

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