The Daily Zeitgeist - TrendYC Stenographers Union 04.15.24: WW3, Iran, Israel, Trump, NYC Stenographers, 'Civil War', 'Sex and the City, Conan O'Brien, 'Hot Ones'

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

In this edition of TrendYC Stenographers Union, Jack and Bryan The Editor discuss their respective weekends, the new WW3 panic that just dropped (Iran vs. Israel), Trump's NY trial and the sinister cartel of NY sketch artists and stenographers, Alex Garland's new film 'Civil War', Gen Z attacking 'Sex and the City', Conan O'Brien on 'Hot Ones' and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to monday morning april 15th it's the monday week and week trend week trends i prefer the week trends uh-oh uh- uh-oh, uh-oh. I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by Brian the Editor! Hello, it's me, Brian the Editor. I'm sleepy. I'm a sleepy guy. Oh, a sleepy pie honey bun.

It's Monday morning. Miles is still making his way back from Japan. I've been told that he lost his voice at the wedding. Maybe the next time you hear from him it will be a scratchy Miles Gray. A scratchy Miles. Anyways, thrilled to have

you here, Brian. This is the episode where we tell the people what was trending over the weekend. It was a pretty eventful weekend, but we do like to kick off by telling the people what we think is underrated, overrated. Let's start with underrated. Is there something you think is underrated that you want to tell the people about? You know what? I'm going to be a gracious king, and I'm going to let you go first, Jack.

Okay. Well, I truly appreciate that, gracious king. I appreciate you, my gracious king and i'm gonna let you go first jack okay well i i truly appreciate that gracious king i appreciate you my gracious king um all right so my underrated uh there there's a new yorker profile of the woman who took over as like the sanitation commissioner in new york under eric adams and is trying to make it so that the city isn't just lined with like snow drifts of trash bags that are like wriggling ominously with colonies of rats just you know it's one of those things you immediately get used to in new york that there are like just giant mounds of trash almost everywhere.

I've always heard about this my entire life with New York. And it's honestly been part of the reason why I'm like, yeah, I'm just not really interested in going. Sounds gross. It makes it sound gross. Yeah, it is gross. And also, it's crazy how much this article made me miss New York. Just like, I don't know.

There's like something about the sense memory of, you know, living in what smells like a garbage dump. Yeah, just some big garbage. But it's like, yeah, but that, you know, your blood is pumping in a way that it never does anywhere else. But your blood is pumping in a way that it never does anywhere else. But anyways, there's this one anecdote that's buried in the article that I just had to share. This fucking blew my mind. So I'm just going to read directly from this article. Occasionally, a New Yorker will call 311, the city's all-purpose helpline, to report that they have mistakenly thrown out something of great value if their trash hasn't already gone in the pit,

which is like a giant pit where the garbage trucks just line up and dump the garbage, and then it gets smashed or burned and taken out of the city. But the caller, if it hasn't been dumped in the giant trash pit, the caller is told to visit their local marine transfer station, where the truck that collected their garbage will be tipped in front of them. The owner is given

90 minutes to wade through the muck to look for their discarded item, a protocol known as Lost Valuables Search. So, already, just an amazing fact that they set up this game show where you have one and a half hours to like you have like a ticking clock to wade through just like medical

waste and rotten banana peels and dog shit to like find your wedding ring essentially but then like there's also this detail then it goes on to say with surprising frequency, people find what they came for. New Yorkers have a way of recognizing their own garbage. That's my bag. They'll say making a beeline toward a corner of the trash pile over the years. Tax documents, false teeth. God, who is doing that for false teeth like that are false teeth to false teeth like cost as much as a car or something that was my understanding family heirlooms and hard drives have been recovered last year a woman

called to say that she'd accidentally tossed out a diamond ring department officials told her that they could hold the truck that picked up her garbage then they described the procedure she'd have to follow the woman told them to forget it and end quote but just the fact that they are sporting enough to be like alright you got 90 minutes I'm imagining a giant clock

that like the like ticks down like the 24 Jack Bauer clock as you're looking for your shit yeah exactly but and then the fact that they find it ever is amazing like my first thought on reading is like no well that's absurd like they're just pulling a prank on people for having something that they value so much

like way more than anyone should value anything the person who by the way told them to forget it is i think the only sane person in that anecdote um but uh just i don't know something unsurprising about new yorkers being able to find their garbage having lived there and yeah it's this garbage it's this article about how how New York is basically like a garbage spewing waste factory. That's number one export is terrible smelling garbage bags. And it somehow made me miss living there somehow. Like the commissioner who takes this job usually ends up loving garbage and that I got it. There's just something, I don't know why. There's just something about New York.

It's also, they do acknowledge, ecologically, a total disaster. And they're not even trying to deal with that. They're just trying to get the garbage off the island. But again, feels like a game show. How much garbage can we get out of here? Yeah, they should have like daily they should have some sort of like a counter the garbage counter yeah like just like right after the weather on the news they just it's like all right and we've had uh 900 million tons of garbage today so far

yeah i mean eventually probably in a few, like they seem to be way behind, like some of the technology they talk about in the rest of the article, New York having is like stuff that other cities have had for years, but New York is just like behind on this for some reason. But I'm sure like in 20 years, you will be taxed by how much like garbage you create,

you know, but that will not be starting in New York. Sounds like a brilliant idea, yeah. Yeah. It also, the article just had an anecdote about how that proposed National Rail Workers Union strike that almost happened, if it had happened, New York would have been choked in garbage

within six days because the garbage leaves via rail once it's done. They have to get it out of town. There's nowhere to put it in New York. I would also say underrated is

collective action, I guess. I feel like the media should have mentioned that as more of a ticking clock. If they do decide to go on strike, our largest city will be choked I feel like the media should have mentioned that as more of like a ticking clock that like, yeah. And if they do decide to go on strike, uh, our largest city will be choked in garbage, will drown in their own waste,

uh, pre like within a week. But obviously the mainstream media won't tell you that shit. You just find out about it as a side note in an article, like three years later. But anyways, uh, those are some things I think are underrated. Basically, I read a New Yorker article and can't stop talking about it.

Brian, what is something you think is underrated? In that vein, I'm going to go ahead and say what is underrated is city life. City life in general is underrated because man i had a fun weekend like a fun weekend like i haven't had in a long time and it's all because i moved back to the city you moved from a pretty like rural uh kind of idyllic like we've seen some drone video that you took of your previous living conditions i was like god damn that is the dream i was living on a what essentially was like a private beach for a while you were living in a truck commercial like this the truck commercials where they're uh you know

combing the beach and doing donuts and like there's just for some reason we want our car commercials to take place in a depopulated wasteland you know you know what i actually did jack yeah i took my pickup truck which i had living in this place yeah and i drove it down that six miles of private beach i saw the i saw the video filming myself with a drone yeah it was sick and that was that was very fun to do and that's that's the perks of living rurally yeah and yeah they got boring after a year or two yeah i noticed in the video i noticed in the video of the truck commercial you created for yourself that you were wearing kleenex boxes on your feet for shoes. Basically?

You had the back of your truck was full of jars and jars of your own piss. There was no reason for me to not wear pajamas. There is literally no reason for me to wear like anything nice or go out. I was very sedentary to like the detriment of my health i think yeah i was just i was just there was nowhere to go nothing to do and now i'm just i'm popping out like literally like nine times a day just like getting snacks going to the movies getting i get a little nightcap at the end of the night i just pop into a bar and have one drink disappearing into the crowd like a bad guy in a mission impossible movie like a bus

passes in front i just disappear you just disappear like i went me and my partner went out for dinner last night like this pretty low-key place and just ended up like chatting up with the people sitting next to us and then then we all went to like some other bar we all hopped in an uber together and uh and and went out yeah the stink jack like and where i'm at isn't quite the level of new york but um yeah just that that filth that grime smells like shit you know what else smells alive i do miss it it does smell alive like a bear like a bear that is shitting positively everywhere yeah it's um it is exhilarating there is an exhilaration about um just being in like this massive metropolis where um where you're teetering

precarious like where like you said like you know new york has to they'll be choked with trash in six days or if if they're not constantly pumping water out yeah from under the city it will just be swallowed by the ocean. Float away into the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah, and it's like living in places like that, there is an inherent excitement. So I'm like, even though I've never been to New York City, I can definitely see the appeal of just wanting to be in one of those places.

You're just like a cell in a vast living organism that is like thrumming with life and you can just that you know the thing that we've talked about a lot on the show that uh can be helpful to people struggling with a lot of the mental health issues where a lot of us are struggling with, uh, particularly these days is like getting outside of yourself and being, being in a big city. If you, if you can, and like being open to experiences like, Hey, those people just said something like that I found funny or, you know, like they, we, we just like caught each other's eye. Let's start a conversation and meet new people the whole reason we started um talking to these people uh next to us at the restaurant was we had just sat down and whatnot and i was i was very stoned and i was just like waiting for food and i was almost just

sitting there like meditating yeah my partner looked at me and i was like she gave me one of those looks like you good and i was like yeah i'm high it's fine and they just bursted out laughing next to me and that's how it started me yelling i'm high i'm high yeah exactly might as well announce it all right uh overrated i think a lot of people were having the same conversation at the end of last week but we never ended up having it on this show so i just wanted to mention that i think it was i was overrating until the end of last week how normal it was that I watched the OJ verdict in Spanish class. Jesus Christ. Yeah.

Like my high school, everyone treated the OJ trial like it was a historical world event as it was happening. And there's no real clear reason why, but everyone just kind of agreed at the time. It was a consensus. Yeah. We invented the 24-hour news cycle just for that trial.

And everyone went with it. My fucking Spanish teacher just went with it. And a lot of people are like, they used to wheel in the TVs. They literally wheeled in the TV for this shit. Did they wheel it in for you? Okay, I was in, I want to say fifth grade. Okay. It was 94, right?

Yeah. Yeah, so I was in fifth grade. They wheeled the TV in for fucking nine and ten year olds. Like a murder trial. For a murder trial. A murder trial, Brian i'm like i shit you not it was one of it's it's a memory that like kind of haunts me like i guess it's mildly traumatic because it's like it's just such a bizarre thing to have happen you know they're mind you i'm 10 they're preempting all of my fucking cartoons that i like to watch to show the trial yeah so not only there's nothing for me to turn to yeah

like it's all oj it was all oj all the time there was no power rangers there were no like uh whatever the fuck i don't know big bad beetle borgs or whatever the fuck was going on at that time but kids are gonna want to see this blood splatter analysis but it's it's funny because it's like i was a naked gun fan so i knew who was yeah that was my i knew who he was to me i he i knew he played football and all that but i'd never watched him play football i watched him burn his hand and fall down a flight of stairs and make a gun and that was funny to me and i liked him because of that yeah and yeah and then yeah they wheeled out the tv in fourth grade or fifth grade um i remember just the only thing i remember is just the mirror neurons in my brain because the camera was on his face as they're reading the verdict. And so I was just relieved for him, you know, because I was just like, I didn't want to see Norberg find out he was never going to see his kids again outside of jail.

You know, like I just the mirror, like I'm just like, well, you're showing me his face. So I was like, you know, nothing more complicated than just like, I don't want to see this person be found guilty. I'm also not like a big vengeance guy, but I feel like the justice system doesn't really work. But from that day forward, Brian, I spoke with perfect Spanish accent. Never made a mistake about when to use to and when to use usted. Did you get any wild reactions from the audience in your class on the verdict? I don't remember any. I do remember some of the black kids were celebrating in the hallway after when class got out.

See, I missed that. I happened to have been at a school where there were very few black kids at the time just for this year, which was cosmically very interesting that i got to experience it's almost like my whole life i've been doing a phd on white people um right so you got to witness i've been able to see them in really the white fright yeah unique situations like i've been i've been to dartmouth university observing white people in their natural habitat um that is where animal house yeah literally I've seen I was in the animal house house my friend was in that frat and I saw horrific things and I smelled horrific smells um and those people are running the world right now yeah it's terrifying that's right but man I there was there were tears there were like little 10 year old girls crying in class after this verdict wow and it that has always stuck with me of uh just how the how that is just so so many things

it's too much i like i can't believe yeah we allowed that to just sweep us up so much yeah um it was like crazy it's like a jake paul fight yeah it was it was like what if what if your school stopped spanish and math class and showed you the jake paul fight yeah it's like it's the only thing i can look into yeah and we were all just like yeah well i i can't not watch it so yeah race war race war yeah that's right all right uh what is something you think is overrated uh i'll keep it quick because it's been on my list for a while um duvet covers uh-huh now it's 2024 we have fucking ai we can send people to space but they can't keep the goddamn duvet from bunching up in the cover and i don't know why we haven't advanced technology enough to have a decent duvet

cover i know this is a weird little rant but it just bugs me how the duvet meat no stuff on one side i like there's no way to keep it yeah the duvet meat is always ill distributed and i don't wait are you is it not tying are you not tying it to the corners the inside corners what do you mean tying it to the corners there's like little ties on my duvet cover that you can tie the meat to the cover in the corners. See, that's my thing. I'm like, we need like some weird little clips or something. But all the ones that I've had don't have... You need to get them with the little ties.

But you know how people are constantly inventing dumb little improvements to pre-existing products i feel like it's lacking in the duvet field like people aren't trying to innovate like uh you know yeah it's like you know the the the that titanic submarine guy he was trying to innovate on submarines he didn't need to. He just needed to build a good submarine. Turns out, he paid less attention to it. Yeah. I think there are... This is on me as a person

with a news show. When I discovered the duvet ties on the inside of the cover, that this was a possibility, that should have been front page news. Like these are the sorts of things that should be front page news is like, they've made a better duvet cover duvet relationship. I'm like, can we get magnets or something?

Like, but if you get them wet, they stop working. So that's the problem. Wait, if they would, that's what Trump said one time if they get wet they stop working oh yeah i remember that uh um all right let's uh great uh duvet meat is uh will not be leaving my mind anytime soon that is what i will

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We're back. And a new World War III panic dropped over the weekend. Iran launched explosive drones and fired missiles at Israel. Again, the media is covering this almost... This is the main thing that is getting the coverage and not the fact that Israel had killed two Iranian

generals in a hugely provocative attack on a fucking embassy on April 1st. Can I tell you something fucking ecuador raided the mexican embassy in ecuador to get one of their people out i don't know all the details but mexico completely cut diplomatic ties for a raid yeah so yeah if you blow up an embassy they're going to be pissed.

Like there's going to be supposed to do that. Yeah. But like the whole thing, I don't know. So like obviously World War Three soon trending on Twitter, the nightmare in the Middle East has always been like a war that involves Iran. Biden came out and stated the U.S. wouldn't participate in a counter offensive against Iran, although U.S. and U.K. forces did help Israel shoot down the Iranian drones. Basically, they completely repelled the attack to a degree that you'd think that they would be downplaying how much they repelled the attack if they wanted to justify the war. But it just seems like it's being portrayed as like now we like basically got every single one i think i saw an article that was like we literally got 99 of them yes but uh colombian president gustavo petro said we're now in the prelude to world war three but he would say that wouldn't he petro i mean his last name is petro forget it he just wants he just wants that sweet sweet gas and oil money

if i had to guess based on knowing absolutely nothing about him other than his name uh but there's also like the like john bolton was invited for a friendly chat on cnn and called biden an embarrassment for not attacking iran it's just like this when you go back and read about the cuban missile crisis like there has been this contingent of people who as far you know as long back as the 60s cuban missile crisis they were like kennedy is letting Russia and Cuba push us around and just wait and see the consequences of not starting a nuclear war with them. Of course, the consequences were we didn't end the human species. Yeah. the historical accounts of the time to really get through just how wild it is that like in a room with the president was a whole contingent of people who are like we gotta start a nuclear war

well that's the only logical next step and in this case we have netanyahu behind the switches and that makes me very uncomfortable um i don't know but the whole the whole thing is yeah because he's desperate um in a manner of speaking and seemed to be intentionally provoking something like this with the like like you said uh blowing up an embassy is no small uh matter like it was i mean something like this was bound to happen just with how like there's you can't just level an entire like an entire city with everything in it yes and there's it's just there was always going to be sloshback on this fucking rampage that they're on this this literal genocidal rampage

um yeah like there's there was always going to be some slosh back and here here we are almost immediately um dealing with uh ramifications of this yeah i like slosh back as opposed like blowback is the typical like cia term but slosh back is more like vomity and i feel like that's appropriate and because it's so fucking messy it's just like it's not it's not this it's gonna keep sloshing back it's gonna go that way and it's gonna come back and it's just yeah it's not good for anybody uh on earth apparently unless you live in patagonia where the the trade winds won't bring the fallout right is that right that's the one place that we all it's like the one place they keep saying

so this is actually really good for real estate in patagonia so congratulations to patagonians also prophecies of 2024 made by nostrad Man, this guy had a lot of time. He wrote prophecies for every year up to this one. That was the great thing about the past. It was boring. You had fuck all to do. His way of getting high was he would just stare into a candle

and then the visions would come to him. You're going to see people on social media being like nasa domus predicted it all he said was something about a naval war with a red adversary because he wrote a lot of vague shit that can be contorted to mean almost anything cool and also they hadn't invented red adversary so that could be um china or russia right or china anybody with red blood Maybe China or Russia. Right. Or China.

Anybody with red blood cells. Yeah. And if you think about it, they could also be red for reasons that will work out later. Someone who's well-read who went to college. Well-read. That's right. Motherfuckers read. But anyways, you know, take a moment to, I don't know, meditate. motherfuckers read but anyways you know take a moment to i don't know meditate do whatever it is that you do to take care of yourself because these are fucking stressful times yes and also

you don't have to pick a side you do not yes it's you don't have to do i'm so stressed out which one do i say is the right all right trump a lot of people talking about his new york trial beginning i think everybody remembered The days of OJ and got horny For a big public trial But before we get to his Public trial that actually won't be that public Unfortunately for CNN

And others This weekend he also So he held a rally in Schneckville Pennsylvania Schneckville Where he went on a rant about the battle of Gettysburg in Schneckville, Pennsylvania. Schneckville! Schneckville! Where he went on a rant about the Battle of Gettysburg, the deadliest battle in the Civil War,

in which more than 50,000 people were killed. Trump said, It was so beautiful in so many different ways. It represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg. Wow. And then he added, Robert E. Lee. Robert E. Lee, who's no longer in favor did you ever notice it he's no longer in favor never fight uphill me boys never fight uphill

wow that was a big mistake never fight uphill me boys but it was too late um i've got the high ground Anakin Robert E. Lee was Anakin it's such a funny take I mean Robert E. Lee kind of Anakin kind of a fucking traitor piece of shit but then redeemed by his son before the Death Star blew up I don't know what the exact part of the metaphor was

the reason he wasn't super his son uh before the death star blew up i don't know what the exact part of the metaphor was that but um the reason so just he wasn't super like it's it's a funny take for trump to be like you ever noticed they canceled robert e lee it's like he was he's saying that like it happened like last week too it's just the reason arlington national cemetery is where it is is because america wanted like it is located on the plantation that robert e lee like owned and lived on and they were like we're taking this and not only will you not be able to return to it we're going to bury all the dead people who you are responsible for killing on your land so go fuck yourself how about that he was not super in favor at the time of the civil war people were pretty fucking clear-cut about who the good guys and bad guys were at that time

it's just so funny that he's in a place where he's like uh you ever notice this guy got canceled we don't uh nobody nobody likes him anymore it's bullshit anyways the trial became a stand-up right just unintentionally funny stand-up so the trial is starting uh today started this morning uh apparently a number of Trump supporters appeared outside the courthouse, but they were outnumbered by members of the media. It's going to be tough for people to follow this trial closely

because back to New York just being a weird place with its own set of rules. New York doesn't allow cameras in courtrooms. Fine. That's not that crazy. They don't even permit audio recordings or photographs. New York doesn't allow cameras in courtrooms. Fine. Like that's not that crazy. Uh, they don't even permit audio recordings or photographs. They will allow for about 60 journalists to attend as well as two sketch

artists. Yeah. This is all because of the sketch artists union, by the way. Right. They're like, no, you can't let fucking video cameras in here.

That's right. This is, this is all we got. What if we were still, what if sketch art, the sketch artist union had stopped the development of cameras you know like thank you capitalism but first of all so no cameras i mean i do have to say as a former resident of new york and now

uh los angelino uh new york you call yourself a showbiz town yeah what the fuck that's this is I do have to say as a former resident of New York and now Los Angelino, New York, you call yourself a showbiz town. Yeah. What the fuck? This is bad TV. We stopped the world with a trial about a famous person and he wasn't even a former president or trying to become president again. Yeah.

Robert Blake. Yeah. That's the, that's the big one. But the other detail of this that is like the very weirdly New York lives by its own rules thing. New York makes it nearly impossible to get transcripts of criminal trials because of a rule that transcripts have to be, quote, purchased from the court stenographers who get to pocket the money themselves and can charge as much as 475 a page for transfer what no i'm so glad i didn't read the doc this is a genuine reaction y'all what the fuck that is insane and like talk about a real like union this is some union shit

right here this is strong stenographers union is strong holy shit he's like i gotta i had to learn this weird ass keyboard i need to make something yeah media outlets are forbidden from sharing transcripts so they all have to buy their own and publication is prohibited uh so learning steno tonight i'm learning steno tonight. I'm learning Steno tonight. We're 75 a page and the media can't publish it. So theoretically, everybody needs to buy their own copy. And if you publish it on the internet, I don't know. Is publishing it on social media illegal? Or does everybody need to have a hard copy?

does everybody need to have a hard copy? This reminds me of when the piracy panic back when people were worried that writing music down was going to ruin the music industry back during

the days of Beethoven and shit. They were like, these kids are writing music and it's uh actually ruining music because everybody's gonna just be able to buy our music and copy it off of one another and so like you just had to have like the original writing or i don't know it's i mean that's why conductors were so important yeah i guess yeah the conductors union also massively the only one who knows what the fuck it's supposed to sound like at the end.

Yeah, but even, so it doesn't just apply to the media. Even prosecutors and defense attorneys have to buy their own copies of the transcript from the stenographers. How did this happen? I don't know. This is insane. It makes me so happy. Wow. Stenographers, shout out to you for keeping it on lock in new york

like the fact that they're not even just like micing people up and like doing a recording of their voices they're like no cheering them out back in the alley right after trial lets out just like slanging pages yeah yeah exactly like it's a trap house it's so funny I got the papers who wants the papers I got the papers the papers it's awesome it's really like so this whole

trial is going to take place in the middle ages like you're gonna have like a written scroll of what somebody heard and then like drawings. Hand scrawled images. Which I don't know. Again, I respect it.

New York, I love you so much. This is so weird. Yeah, I love you and you're going to kill me. Yeah. Wow. Exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break and then we're going to come back and talk about Civil War.

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and we're back we are and civil war uh broke records for a to an a24 movie at the box office crushed the record actually by a by good margin yeah um made like 25 million dollars or something on a on a 50 million dollar budget yeah 25.7 million of the box office 50 million dollar but i mean it has to have like been the most expensive a24 movie it looked like the most expensive one it didn't it you know obviously it's all up there on the screen yeah um yeah it it looked like a big budget action movie and i i was impressed yeah but anyways when the trailer for the movie came out i remember we covered it we were a little confused about the politics of this like civil war where like texas and california have teamed up um they're like, that was kind of the main thing I got was like,

there's the Western forces, which are Texas and California. Um, and then there's like the loyalist and a authoritarian president who's in his third term played by Nick Offerman. I thought he would have more to do in the movie, but he's kind of like just on the margins a little bit and the whole, like all of the, so apparently there's like four competing factions but you just don't really need to know

that going into the movie or the movie like doesn't really make it important it kind of goes out of its way to not tell you anything like uh about like not choose a side really in the conflict yes and i found that a very it was interesting considering what the film is about but i thought it was a smart choice to not turn it into like this liberal daily wire style thing where it's pushing some sort of specific agenda yeah it it was a it was a movie with a story to tell and i and i appreciated that it just told the story yeah it just focuses on photojournalists traveling through an american civil war um and i thought so like i'm kind of of two minds on the one hand, like I, there's definitely a feeling of like you're in an America that feels the way, like the way that the media and movies portray wars in other countries,

like as a sort of abstract backdrop for other stories is kind of how the Civil War in this movie is portrayed. Nobody is picking a side. Nobody is really weighing in other than they want to get an interview with the president before he's deposed is kind of the frame of the movie.

I think it's definitely a choice that the movie I think is popular at least partially because we have a authoritarian dictatorial president. true like this i don't feel like you could have made this movie and had like this many people be interested in it without the fact that trump is happening and like it feels like we're teetering on the edge of authoritarianism but i guess there's authoritarianism happening around the world like that there are other controversies like the fact like it got so it thanks andy know that like real piece of shit guy who like wrote a book about antifa that's like uh antifa is like the the main bad guy in in history basically and antifa is one of the few real world elements that actually gets name checked in civil war we hear about the antifa massacre but the movie never clarifies if like the anti-fascists got slaughtered or did the

slaughtering which i really actually kind of like i was like what the what's the what's the story behind that um yeah i can see why people i almost think of it like you know how like marvel movie nerds are always searching for easter eggs and clues to like the next fucking like it's that's what this feels like to me yeah yeah because it's like the movie is it's so unambiguous um much like every alex garland movie they're not subtle films yeah um you don't have to like Google, like what did it all mean? Right. Like,

it's very clear what the film is about, what story he was trying to tell. And really for me, it like all of these questions that people have about these weird little politics, the politics of it. It's like, it's almost like asking but why couldn't women have kids and children of men like what's the reason right wait wait why why is there

why is there no water in Mad Max right what what was the cataclysm in the road? It doesn't make sense to me if you watch the movie, because it doesn't matter. In all those movies, the bad guy should have been named Trump. And it just seems silly when you watch it. And it's like, yeah, those films are very much in line with this film.

They are all sort of road movies in a world that's really fucked up and no one, there's this fog of war, essentially, I guess of nobody really knows what the fuck's happening. It's just this chaotic mess. And you're just traveling through this world. You know,

it's like, you know, children of men, they had those, you know, those advertisements for those, those. You know, it's like, you know, children of men, they had those, you know, those advertisements for those those suicide pills. And it's like it does make you wonder, right, like how this came about. But it doesn't matter. This is the world that the film's portraying.

And yeah, yeah, it's it's almost like some people are refusing to accept the film that they were given and they wanted something else. I just don't know what that something else is. The main overall takeaway is like every, every part of the war feels like the second people are in the battle, you're like, God, this seems like a real mistake. Like the,

the violence, like there, there's one part where somebody's out and they're behind a column being shot at and scared and crying and know

that they're about to die. That felt really powerful to me. It's just, no matter what side you're on, once the war starts you're like fuck yeah it doesn't matter who's shooting at you yeah it's a very there's a very one of my favorite scenes in the film where some people are being shot at and you know one of the one of the journalists is asking all these questions like yo who who's giving the orders here and like you

know who's shooting and it's like the the guy is just like just completely dead and he's like bro yeah somebody's shooting at me and i'm trying to kill them yeah that's all i got yeah yeah yeah exactly it doesn't matter who's shooting at me they're trying to murder me that's the in some ways like that that blankness of like what is happening who maps on to what political ideology is kind of the point overall like i i thought it was you know i i enjoyed the movie um it kind of the the one thing that like i don't i wouldn't say bumped me but it has this one scene for me or these two scenes the the sniper scene but then when jesse plemmons shows up it's he is just it's it's not a long performance i don't want to like

spoil it no it's not a lot but it is so it reminds me of like when in dark knight when like ke Keith Ledger's performance is so incredible that you're kind of just like waiting for the next moment for him to come back. Like, yeah. Cause Joker wasn't in that movie all that much. Yeah. Every time he shows up. Yeah.

You're like, wow. It's very much like that. Just like takes it up or like saving private Ryan. Like there's like a chunk of the movie. That's not the climax that's so much more electric and compelling than everything else

that it sort of feels misshapen. Like that's kind of how this one feels to me a little bit. And the glasses, man. The glasses. Something about the glasses really turned up the tension somehow. I don't know why. I don't know whose decision it't know who's decision it was

his performance and the red sunglasses are so fucking iconic it makes it so much more unsettling like why are you wearing it's wild because when we watched the trailer we were like everything besides the Plemons like everything feels a little bit like it's like sound

of freedom level like I don't know it feels like it could be a daily wire movie yeah and then clemens shows up in the red sunglasses and in the trailer and i'm like all right i'm in like that that and that's the the rest of the movie does not feel like a daily wire uh ben shapiro production is pretty strong keeps keeps talking about it like it's supposed to be which is right right to me i think the rest of the movie is pretty strong keeps keeps talking about it like it's supposed to be which is right right to me i think the rest of the movie is pretty strong but the plemons shit like really stands out um and is fucking just one of the scariest characters just unbelievable yeah really

so yeah i i would definitely say absolutely worth your time if you're wondering whether or not to see it if you're coming to the daily zeitgeist for um yeah it's under two hours um it's great it's beautifully shot you get to see a very cinematic rendition of a what is referred to as a microwave um i won't elaborate on what that is but it's right at the beginning of the movie and it looks terrifying and it's incredibly shot um which which parts of the microwave i don't know when they're showing her like the we talking havana syndrome bro no like um her ptsd shots like right at the beginning where she's trying to like close her eyes and get some rest and it there's these flashes of past work she's done and they put they put the tire around

that guy and oh jesus christ like yeah i was like yo i never thought i would see this in a movie like this is fucking wild that is one of the moments also that sticks with you yeah it's the tone for the film of like oh this isn't gonna be chill at all not chill they're number one they can just do with the microwave and the opening credits like basically i'm like oh okay alex calm down you don't have to hurt him alex damn all right so let's see other other pop culture news happening what do we got what do we got what do we got uh r.i.p gen z unfortunately they couldn't handle sex in the city it killed them um they there's just this is like uh this is one of the stories that we're just covering because it's a fake story, but you're probably seeing it.

So we'll just let you know. I did see something about this. Yeah. There's just like a handful of tweets and one article in The Independent claiming that the show is often cringy, which... It always has been. That from the moment it came out, cringe... It was the tone. Was the tone.

It was like the just brutal clunkers of jokes and puns... Honestly, it was the tone was the tone was like the just brutal clunkers of jokes and honestly it was the charm from day one it was the charm unabashedly cringe uh so and that's not me saying so why are you writing this gen z it's me being like what this controversy is so fucking stupid like just because someone's young and says that something feels cringe, like that changes it. Even though like that is explicitly its purpose. I think, I think there are some young people who are like,

wait, you guys thought this shit was like not cringe. And it's like, no, it's helpful to clarify that has always been the, the point of sex in the city is like bad clunker dumb sex puns and jokes um my question is why is gen z even bothering it's like it's like gen z watching like like the andy griffith show or something like why are you why are you here it's on netflix so uh

that's people just watch it on on netflix but also it's like a cultural thing like i don't begrudge them the opportunity to watch it obviously nobody is forcing them to watch it and i feel like they also understand perfectly well that not every movie or tv show from a quarter century ago is going to stand the test of time this feels more like it's just a old people in the media who are frustrated with their kids not liking the shit that they like trying to make a story happen. Thanks to them for giving it a shot though.

Because I genuinely wouldn't have thought that this would have any appeal at all and they would just like ghost the whole show. But they gave it a shot. Right. Yeah. I mean it's iconic and that i i could see people like even i as what's the sex in the city reboot called and just like that and just like that and just like that was so persistent even after like the first two episodes that i think

we watched for this show just to be like wait there's got to be something here right everybody's talking about it like even i was like with there it feels like there's more here than there really is i can see that driving people to sex in the city to be like all right well that sucked but clearly there's something here that's like bringing people back trying to recapture something the other big pop culture event of the weekend was uh conan o'brien being eulogized basically following his appearance on hot ones like my entire social media feed for like 12 hours was people being like conan o'brien is funny like it just and it was all in the tone of people being like these kids again could be a fake news story because it's a lot of people being like the these kids don't realize how funny conan is but that that seemed to be the experience. So did you see the Conan appearance on hot ones?

Uh, no, no, I, I gotta admit, never watched hot ones. So I had never watched hot ones either. Like it seemed wet while the main take in the,

in social media seemed to be, we've all seen hot ones. And now a bunch of us are just discovering Conan O'Brien. I'm assuming that for most people, the truth is like the opposite that they knew Conan and, uh, or at least most people like our age and like are just, this was my first experience with hot ones.

I probably won't be watching more hot ones. I don't know. There's nothing like wrong with watching people eat spicy food it just sounds annoying to me it's like an episode of conan o'brien needs a friend which is a podcast i enjoy if he was hurting himself the whole time which is what uh the idea of hot ones is is like the you see this person being interviewed while they're like suffering a little bit that's not really my thing i'm not there i don't get i don't get much i mean hell i didn't want to see oj hear a guilty verdict that's how much i don't want suffering i just want

i want everybody to be happy but he he's really funny and like you know know, it's a, it's a great piece of video. I definitely recommend it, but it's just people are treating it like they, this is wow. Conan O'Brien. Who's this Conan O'Brien fella. Yeah. He's, he's the second best writer for the Simpsons of all time.

Behind who? John Schwarzwalder. Schwarzwalder. Yeah. Yeah. And that guy just stayed writing for the Simpsons right for a long time he's got some of the best

episodes under his belt worth watching go check it out give it the would watch along with Civil War he really like he just has a complete breakdown and when he got home I was legitimately Yeah, I'll check it out. He really, like, he just has a complete breakdown.

And when he got home, like, I was legitimately, like, worried for his safety. Have you ever gotten, like, capsaicin or, you know, like, been cutting jalapenos and gotten it on your hands? Yeah, yeah. It definitely, I remember one time I was making hot sauce at work. It did not go away. it is a weird feeling and he's rubbing hot sauce all over him i rubbed like right underneath my eye not i didn't touch my eye but i touched like right underneath it and those those vapors started moving up and i was incapacitated it was like i got pepper sprayed yeah yeah yeah yeah it was a wrap in his case he said uh that he had a complete breakdown and that when he got home his skin was literally burning because he got hot sauce under his wedding ring which is oh interesting

because yeah like if you always wear your wedding ring that's the skin underneath it gets like turns into like Gollum skin. It's like weird. Yeah. Yeah. Just like weird. It's like when you, it's like when you don't take a bandaid off for like three days and your skin gets all weird.

Yeah. It's just like a weird little deformed part of your body. Oh man. That sounds like it's. Yeah. Yeah. The part of the part of my finger under my wedding ring is like precious don't like when we go outside it's like oh what is this light off of me he said if i think something's

funny i will do it and suffer later and that's exactly what happened and uh yeah i was i was worried for his safety during the show and apparently rightly so because he was rubbing don't hot sauce. Anything spicy can be, it's, it's like treat it like acid, like LSD. It can be absorbed through your skin and have the same effect through your

skin. Uh, do not. Yeah. And do not, uh, do it with an eyedropper uh i would say um all right those are some of the things that were trending over this weekend

brian the editor thank you so much for joining filling in pleasure um where can people find you follow you all day um you can find me in the city. In the city. Having nightcaps and delightful evenings. Shouting about how high you are. Just shouting from the rooftops that I am high. And yeah, you can find me on Twitter. It's Brian the Editor, I think.

I'm not on very often and don't bother me. There you go. A resounding endorsement. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. That is going to do it for us this morning. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, whole ass,

be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Nope. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.

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