The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump <3 Ghislaine, Harley COVIDson 8.5.20

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

In episode 687, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Anime in America podcast Yedoye Travis to discuss Trump's interview with Jonathan Swan, Trump's campaign plans, a massive concert coming to th...e Ozarks, Men's Wearhouse filing for bankruptcy, and more!FOOTNOTES: Watch the full "Axios on HBO" interview with President Trump Trump actually doesn’t appear to understand how bad the pandemic is Huge explosion rocks Beirut, injuring thousands across Lebanese capital Trump campaign manager: We want more debates against Biden, and sooner No social distancing in sight at massive concert in Lake of the Ozarks The Legendary Sturgis Concerts and Entertainment Lineup at the Buffalo Chip Men’s Wearhouse Owner Files for Bankruptcy WATCH: El Michels Affair - 12345678910 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 145, episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news fuck rush limbaugh fuck fuck sex and come on shapiro come on fuck tucker carlson because we're brave that's why we say that it's wednesday august 5th 2020 my name is jack ok.a. It's 9 a.m. on a Wednesday. I put my earbuds in. Hello, the Internet. Fuck Fox News. The host saying the podcast begins and Jack O'Bee's ranting about coal gas as Miles Gray slowly gets stoned.oned yes they're sharing the dread of our hellscape but it's better than dreading alone that is courtesy of the way way back and i am thrilled
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Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest stand-up comedians working right now. He is the hilarious, the talented, Yedoye Travis! Hey, what's going on? It's me, it's Yedoye, a.k.a. Young Anime, a.k.a. Old TikTok Videos. Are you on TikTok? I got one video on there. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It got removed for violating community guidelines. Is that true? Yeah, immediately. What was the community guidelines? I don't know. I think because I hashtagged racism, and it was a joke. It was a joke where I said, if the N word with an A is okay and with a hard R is not, then how do British people know who's racist? And they took that down.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Wow. Yeah. Inquisitive nature, not supported on TikTok. Exactly. They don't like hot takes on there. They do not like hot takes. Keep it to some kind of millie Rocking compilation videos, please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They just think that anything hashtag racism was people just being like, hey, this is racism here. I'm going to be racist. I'm just like, hey, maybe then block the hashtag. Well, Yedoya, I got to say, man, I'm such a fan of you without you being on this show. And I'm so cool to have you on the show. Finally, I think for most most of the time they hear me calling out your tweets because I'm a regular admirer of your Twitter work and comedic work.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So, yeah, it's nice to always have people that we get to admire from afar come to the show. Of course, I appreciate it. I was sitting here this whole time like y'all shout my tweets out out all the time and i'm never on the show what's going on i think it's because now i think because like zoom podcasting is so normal now it's like we're like yeah okay you in new zealand bet come on yeah you're in western europe come right on in new york not a problem yeah they don't know the power they've given us with this allegedly fake virus. Right, so many happy returns. It's allegedly fake virus. Allegedly fake virus.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yedoya, you're in Brooklyn. How is quarantining in Brooklyn these days? You know what? It's fine. Is it okay if I tell people where you are? Oh, yeah, that's fine. Somebody delivered food to my apartment and recognized me at the door, so I feel like my address is probably out there.
Starting point is 00:06:29 From the Away Bag commercials? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, are you the luggage guy? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, yeah, you really shouldn't be eating all this shit, man. Not good for you. All right, dude, mind your business.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He's like, okay, you shouldn't be delivering this shit come on man just let me eat this in peace are there still uh fireworks going off at all hours in brooklyn yes well actually no but they're still happening right okay it's not all day but now it's like at the perfect interval to scare the shit out of me nice right right right just yeah i heard exactly one pop the other day and it just ruined my night yeah oh man just establish a baseline of silence and i my neighborhood has not changed in five years it's just steady yeah so like even when all this is going on i'm like ah like i think maybe they got better fireworks, but I don't know. Like I said, in this part of the Valley, from December 28th till December 20th of the next year,
Starting point is 00:07:32 basically, is just fireworks season. So it's hard for me to tell anymore. You got that one week off, though. That's nice. Yeah, just, you know, they got to keep something sacred. They take, you know, Christmas, obviously. Let's treat the birth of our Savior. Yeah, take the day for the family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:47 All right, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're obviously going to be talking about that fucking interview that the president did with Jonathan Swan on Axios on HBO. Woo! Just, I mean, just a real good. Woo, kid! Just a rough one.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Just a good look for him all around for the president. And it just, I don't know, further underlines just how bad things are. Like, when you really watch someone debate, like, it's the first time you kind of see some back and forth over like a that point a talking point and how easily logic is abandoned it's so frightening i thought it was a sketch i really was like yo these deep fakes are getting really good yeah right well yeah we'll get into some of those moments that are so the camera work really too felt like yeah there was like some off the show like suddenly things weren't on sticks anymore it were like on the shoulder cameraman like quick just tightening
Starting point is 00:08:50 in on the documents that's just like oh just really aggressive bar graph and he's like there's your proof and he's like uh that were the worst right right and and the the graphs that he was using looked like some shit that like my two-year-old would be using in class. It was just shapes with colors. That was the first giveaway for me. It was like, look, I took statistical methods. I know when people are trying to lie to you with graphs. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I know what that looks like and what it sounds like. It was unbelievable. All right, so we're going to talk about that probably a lot. If we have time, we're going to get to Trump's reelection strategy now being to move up some debates, get some debates going. We're going to talk about probably why that's a good idea for him. We're going to talk about their vaccine strategy uh why that's a bad thing for us uh gateway pundit is going full q anon it seems like just defending its anti-semitism because they have a big big expose they want people to know about q anon and i think we should sit on
Starting point is 00:09:58 that and not reveal that in the preview but this i mean if true from gateway pit, then maybe we should all be giving QAnon a second chance. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. So we're going to look at QAnon through the eyes of Gateway Pundit. Yeah. We're going to talk about some upcoming super spreader events that you can put on your calendar and start buying your tickets.
Starting point is 00:10:22 We'll talk about Men's Warehouse and Lord & Taylor and just businesses that are going out of business and what that means for the future of our lives in America. But first, Yedoye, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, so this is from the past few days I've dwelled on this uh i've been googling elon musk's emerald mine yeah yeah um you know just trying to figure out how deep his uh his apartheid
Starting point is 00:10:54 roots go and you know where where uh where he really lies and is he the hero that we think he is or some people still think he is yeah what did you what did you find with a cursory glance at his upbringing well i found first of all that his family had a fucking emerald mine um yeah good enough it's like what an antiquated jewel first of all right even invested like i feel like diamonds i can at least feel okay, they're from a modern time where people still buy and wear diamonds, obviously. Emeralds just seem so deeply colonialist. Right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's like, what are you trying to make your Spectre look good? Or whatever, Sephiroth. Or like, it was really cool. It had a wave in the 90s. I feel like Sega games, you know, Emeralds, they're due. It seems like a setting with Dr. Robotnik. Like are you trying to fight Sonic the Hedgehog? Yeah, it would be up to some shit like with an Emerald mine, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, right? Yeah. The original Thanos right there is Shadow the Hedgehog. Yeah. And what was the thing, Jack, about him always having like literal like Emeralds in his pocket? Yeah, there was like some interview or profile of him where they opened it talking about how he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:08 they're like, he's a 19-year-old Elon Musk walking down the street with emeralds in his pocket because he has to transfer some money or some shit. He just casually sold a couple of emeralds to Tiffany's. Right. Apparently you can just do that. Yeah. Just some loose diamonds.
Starting point is 00:12:25 They're like, sir, do you have a, yeah, you got you got an appointment now i got some lucys on deck though i'm sorry these loose emeralds and i guarantee right before that happened a black person walked in and tried to buy some emeralds and they were like no you can't afford that i feel like the only time i've seen emeralds really like in pop culture other than sega is the end of goonies when they like pull out all those like pirate jewels and they're like they've got all the different colored gems that i was always like that just looks like colored glass to me like that doesn't look like anything they're not even like that precious i mean like granted a precious stone but like you know on the scale of things i'm looking at what
Starting point is 00:13:10 yeah uh eight carat one for 95 grand and that's what elon's been saying he was not privileged growing up yeah it was only an emerald mine yeah i feel like you only see emeralds like mixed in with like a pile of jewels right like they're never on their own like i i feel like you only see emeralds like mixed in with a like a pile of jewels right like they're never on their own like i i i found like a stash of emeralds who wants who wants some fucking emeralds who cares yeah yeah give me a whole chest of also i think we're just like so our generation subsequently just don't give a fuck about precious any bullshit like gold or diamonds so like yeah emeralds whatever yeah yeah the i do wonder go ahead i was gonna say uh the value of white people as a whole is fabricated so like the things they're trying to sell who cares right and then now you got like
Starting point is 00:14:00 lab diamonds and it's like shut the fuck up man don't tell me you can just make them without enslaving african people and brutalizing them for centuries yeah the uh yeah i do wonder like the now that people can learn about how you know diamond companies were keeping them artificial like artificial scarcity and how it's all just this narrative that was started by company in the 40s like i feel like the internet might puncture the whole like value of diamonds or at least it should if people are paying attention well also like who has money who has money to be like yeah here's an 18 000 ring i wear out somewhere right like that's just a level we have not known wealth accumulation like that generationally so that's such a foreign concept that it's not even registering as like thing.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I want right now. It's like insurance. Yeah. I just got it. And I feel like I'm done. Yeah. And like, you're like,
Starting point is 00:14:55 man, I got an $18,000, like basically insurance card in my pocket. Yeah. Isn't it ironic that now that I have health insurance, I feel like I can die. Right. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, such an interesting feeling. Truly American. Now I can die happy. Now I won't burden my family. Yeah. Anyway, this is all to announce that I've written a pilot called Elon's Emeralds that I will be posting on Twitter. Oh, love it, love it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 What is something you think is overrated? A hard day's work i feel like you don't have to even mean who cares why is the value of something that it's hard you know right i make more money now that i worked way harder for 15 an hour than i do now for like several thousand so like what are we really what are we really teaching people by shit? By telling them that shit should be hard for it to be meaningful and valuable. Well, that's how you create, yeah, that's how you create a good, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:54 whole generations of workers that are willing to be like, and yes, I've accepted that life is unfair because of like this, you know, not subtle, very overt indoctrination you receive. Yeah. It's about hard work and blood, sweat, and tears. And you're like, really? It's about hard work for a man who does not work hard.
Starting point is 00:16:11 One guy. Yeah. I should be bleeding and crying at my job? Yeah. At the coach store? Yeah. Okay. You want to sell sneakers.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah. Right. Exactly. We got this new fragrance out. You better learn what a top note means and how to sell that. And the end note is vanilla, not the top note, Miles. Oh, right. You got to... We got this new fragrance out. You better learn what a top note means and how to sell that. And the end note is vanilla, not the top note, Miles. And it is corrosive to poor skin.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah, right. So it can be used as a defense weapon. So, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, at all times, anime. Anime. It's becoming more mainstream, but it's not quite there yet
Starting point is 00:16:46 shout out to megan the stallion and little lizzy vert for uh for changing the reputation of anime blacks but i feel like there's still a lot of work to be done yeah what is uh i mean it's funny i'm being half japanese i watched so much anime as a kid and i i really i'm like learned how to read japanese and write from just reading manga and stuff like that. And then I kind of like, as I got older, it was weird. Like the things Americans were liking as anime I had seen years previously. And I was like, this isn't cool. Like I was made fun of by my cousins years ago for watching this.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And now you want me to fucking get down with Mighty Morphin Power Rangers? This shit used to be called Gorinja when I a kid and yep so super sentai baby yeah right exactly and so i mean it's just funny how like but now i come back and like i'm loving so much like modern anime like i back in the day i was just pretty much only watching like cowboy bebop here and there mostly ranma i love rama and dragon ball uh and like any toriyama stuff yeah of course um i read i was reading the ranma manga when i was a kid and i didn't even know it had an anime until like a few years ago right right yeah yeah but i grew up with all this stuff and just like high school and college took uh took like an eight-year hiatus from watching because i
Starting point is 00:18:07 thought all my friends were like hated it and then of course now i find out they were all watching it in secret like i was yeah yeah yeah what's uh for somebody who's not into anime what's a what's like the best and anime gateway drug like what's the what's the one to start them off on i generally like to recommend uh fully coolly which is six episodes and it does not make sense so you don't actually have to okay it does make sense but it doesn't make sense on the first watch so you don't actually have to be that engaged and it's just a lot of cool action and animation um so it's just like a nice little intro piece that doesn't take up too much of your time.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So you can hate it or you can not and just move on. Jack, you might like Crayon Shin-chan. That's another one. That's a great one. How am I spelling that? It's just called Crayon Shin-chan. Crayon Shin-chan.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But the funny part was i don't know if they showed this in the u.s version but in the japanese version he you know uh japanese people aren't circumcised so he would draw elephant ears around his shaft and ball sack and it would look like an elephant and he will run around he's like it's my elephant and he there's this song in japanese called zoosan it's called zoosan zoosan ohanaganaga you know it's like a like a nursery rhyme about an elephant he says oh you got a long nose like i'm an elephant man mr elephant you got a long nose and he would sing that with his dick out uh with elephant ears like scribbled in marker around his
Starting point is 00:19:35 crotch and i just remember like thinking i was like i wonder if that's gonna make that over here because that's the thing japanese humor like is sort of willing that flies over there but i'm not sure that made that to the yeah way more open network dicks than an old wait it's a child doing this yeah he's like eight years old it's like this he's like this like a harebrained you know eight year old kid just always getting into shit and i remember i got in trouble because i drew that shit when i was a kid and i came out and like out of like a family a gathering and they didn't think it was that funny oh you did that you made that movie yeah i mean that is dead on like children think nudity and their dicks are the funniest things in the world yeah but the thing
Starting point is 00:20:18 is they are they are conditioned to not they're not adults yeah Kids are kind of right on that. It's pretty funny. What's a myth? What's something people think is true or something vice versa? Okay, this might be controversial, but I think a myth is the fact that diversity or representation are the ways to solve racial problems,
Starting point is 00:20:40 necessarily. And I think main evidence of that is that uh jeffrey epstein's island did not allow black girls what for real yeah yeah without it i mean i noticed i noticed a an aesthetic in a lot of the photos that i saw but wow there is a motif yeah yeah my wife is korean she just watched the filthy uh rich documentary she was like he really uh had a type i was kind of glad that it wasn't uh korean girls yeah it's like would diversity have made this whole situation better i don't think so right right you know right sometimes yeah yeah that but i think the also the reason why a lot of people think just inclusion or
Starting point is 00:21:24 representation is like the answer is because you don't have to upend the systemic, you know. Yeah, absolutely. The structures that maintain these forms of oppression and racism. Absolutely. Okay, well, I'm not going to sort of look into my pay scales and things like that and the numbers of people I employ. But how about this? I will green light three shows with black people right or how i will hire one black pa right exactly who works in a different room
Starting point is 00:21:51 from the one black writer so they never actually meet each other yeah yeah yeah that's always funny when you like you're on a set and you see the other black person oh yeah whoa whoa whoa hold on hold on hold on stop stop stop stop the go-kart. Stop the go-kart. Hey, how you doing, man? Cut, cut, cut. Yeah, I'm like, how you doing? He's like, are you the director? He's like, no, I'm LeVar Burton's nephew.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And I'm like, okay, that's fair. Yeah, I'm just here visiting. Yeah, I'm like, okay, cool. How you liking it? He's like, not for me. I'm like, fair. Yeah, I just feel like I've watched enough anime that have like one black character where i'm just like he didn't need to be there i would have enjoyed it more without him and also
Starting point is 00:22:30 japanese culture has a very you know fucked up relationship with fetishizing blackness too so it's uh it does it's not a you're not gonna get the the most even-handed representations yeah yeah i've done videos on it but you what? I don't think they're working. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's hard. It's, you know, an island nation mentality and people just have this thing
Starting point is 00:22:52 like, well, it's not violent racism. It's just violent othering of people. Yeah, absolutely. And being absolutely dismissive. I mean, this happens with fours in general, especially if you have something to say on societal issues in Japanese culture, where if you have a platform and you say something, the immediate thing is like, well, they're not Japanese.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And, you know, thank you for even though this person was raised here and speaks the language and works here and knows the they're like, but, you know, but, you know, this steps every everywhere you go. We got to make steps. Yeah. Small strides. Yeah. Right. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
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Starting point is 00:27:39 I'm sorry, what happened? There's a massive explosion. They say a fireworks factory exploded in Beirut, Lebanon. Oh, fuck. And the videos, people were filming it because the plant was on fire. And then when the thing explodes, a shockwave travels for like 10 kilometers. And it's like blowing windows out of buildings. It's blowing cell phones out of people's hands who are filming.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's like, I can't imagine how triggering that would be if you've actually been like down range and you are a combat veteran because there's these moments where you see something explode and you see the shock wave come and you like in a moment i was like i would have thought i i was about to die if i saw that shit coming for me yeah this year feels like it's written by like a tv writer like so much shit like seeing the police hand out fireworks to everybody and then they're just blowing off, making it sound like we're in the Middle East and then a fireworks factory in the Middle East explodes.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It just feels like a Chekhov's gun type of thing. And super producer Anna Hosnia just pointed out that a lot of the people who live in Beirut already have PTSD from combat that's just going on around them constantly. Just ambient war. It's fucked up. All right. that seems like it was written by a different type of TV writer. This Trump interview with Jonathan Swan that is too dumb for an episode of Veep. It's too on-the-nose, transparently stupid to be in Veep.
Starting point is 00:29:20 It has everything that needs to be a comedy comedy it has like you you feel like jonathan swan's almost about to break the fourth wall and look in the camera and being like is he for real right now it has yeah has genetic waving of papers and like being like what are you showing me and like okay like the faces alone are truly something else trump is starting to like cut away to a confessional over the shoulder shot right he's starting um i don't think so yeah they're like i've i've normally interviewed the president but this was particularly interesting yeah there's this uh political cartoonist i forget who it is who draws Trump as like a melting mound of pudding. And like he's starting to like turn into that also.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like he really is not looking good. That's the thing. It's like on one hand, you're like, yeah, ha ha. And then you're like, joke's on me. You're the president. Right. Yeah. On everybody else who you're essentially, you know. Yeah. Letting all these people die in the streets or not in the streets, but basically letting people die without any proper attempt at correcting the situation or containing it. But yeah, they do. It's sad that it's sad that the best we can hope for in this election is an entirely entirely like ineffective president in joe biden like
Starting point is 00:30:46 someone who isn't doing anything and just maintaining the status quo right as opposed to somebody who's actively trying to be harmful right right yeah somebody who's not throwing their body in front of people trying to put out the fire who's just gonna like yeah we'll allow people to at least try to put out fires. But we'll but as a good liberal, we'll comment on the fire and say that's a fire. Oh, yeah. And that's a fire. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'll stick over here and let y'all do something. But this interview, it I mean, you know, Jack, we were saying before Axios, they've done a really good job over the years of like threading this needle of like trying to get be a little thorny at times, but mostly some mostly being very accommodating to the administration in order to get access. Like, I think a lot of journalists like they criticize Axios. You're just doing it for the access. But this this you wouldn't have expected this. I mean, I've seen other interviews with Jonathan Swan. He's willing to get, you know, willing to confront the president on certain things. But this, the energy in this really felt like I'm fucking done with this shit.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like, this is just so bad. And like, I don't know if he was hearing some shit like, next time you talk to him, like, make him sweat. But he had the whole, his whole demeanor was like, I'm over this whole thing. And like, I'm not going to let you just say some shit and we move on. Did you know he's from New Jersey? That accent's just made up? No. Just joking.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Australian. I wouldn't believe it, though. I would have believed you. Yeah. This dude, Andy Ngo, has a fake British accent. Oh, my God. What the fuck? So the first one.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah, let's talk about the content yeah the first clip i'll play we'll see how long we can endure it um but it's essentially this back and forth of you know jonathan swan asking hey what's up with these coronavirus death statistics i mean like in terms of a proportion of our population we are are doing terribly. And then he's Trump is arguing why that's not actually a good way to measure the effectiveness isn't by counting the dead that are piling up. It's like, well, how many how many people who actually get it and then hospitalized and then die? So this one and then again, Jonathan Swan, you can just hear it in his voice, not really here for it. Look at some of these charts. I'd love to, not really here for it. Let's look at some of these charts. I'd love to. We're going to look.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Let's look. And if you look at death. Yeah. Started to go up again. Well, right here, the United States is lowest in numerous categories. We're lower than the world. Lower than the world? We're lower than Europe.
Starting point is 00:33:27 In what? In what? Take a look a look take a look i don't know you tell me oh you're doing death as a proportion of cases i'm talking about death as a proportion of population that's i just like where this is going already he's like and okay what it's so patronizing he's like right what do you have there and then the way he's like oh okay so this is a fake driver's license it says you have this is an area 51 all access pass this isn't real documentation he sounds like he's trying to get his dad on the wi-fi right oh okay no no, that's not right at all. So yeah, so your modem isn't even on actually, Dad. So let's go back there. Okay, and it continues. So you can already begin to feel he's already not really up, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:13 with all this sort of obfuscating that's going on. And just to say the obvious, he's the reason that it doesn't matter the proportion of deaths. That would be a commentary on like how our medical staff is doing, not how from an epidemiological perspective we're controlling and he's doing his job. All he's looking at is the mortality rate. Yeah, and it's as this number rather than like, hold on. Yeah, and there are also plenty of people who get it without symptoms,
Starting point is 00:34:41 so are you counting them? Right. But if they don't know do you really have it you know what i mean they said the number is like at least a new england journal of medicine says the number of people who have it is at least like six times higher right okay so let's continue if it's a proportion of population that's where the u.s is really bad well much worse than south korea germany etc you can't you can't do that. Why can't I do that? You have to go by... You have to go by where...
Starting point is 00:35:08 Look, here is the United States. You have to go by the cases. The cases... Why not as a proportionate population? When you have somebody... What it says is when you have somebody that has... Where there's a case... Oh, OK.
Starting point is 00:35:19 The people that... It's surely a relevant statistic to say if the US has X population and X percentage of death of that population versus South Korea. No, because you have to go by the cases. Well, look at South Korea, for example, 51 million population, 300 deaths. It's like, it's crazy. You don't know that.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I do. You don't know that. You think they're faking their statistics, South Korea? I won't get into that because I have a very good relationship with the country, but you don't know that. I'll just, I'm just going to stop there. The whole thing, he's so desperate. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You can tell, though, too, Trump isn't used to a rebuttal to anything he says or any pushback. So the second he's forcefully like, when he's like, you can't do that. And Jonathan's like, why can't I do that? He's like, because't do that and john this one's like why can't i do that he's like because because hold on i mean uh look just he is waving papers around it should be noted not this one and it's really it's i don't know he's like confused he's almost like but this paper they said is the thing it's like they only gave him enough information to like effectively lie unobstructed right like he's like they're so clearly trying to manipulate the stats but like he doesn't actually know how he's doing it no you know and he doesn't know how to like he doesn't
Starting point is 00:36:40 know how to carefully even present the data point to like help his sort of narrative it's just like i don't know i just say the thing yeah right it feels like when i tell my mom that like you can't do something on the computer and she's just like she doesn't understand technology to the to actually refute it right so she's like but you can you can do that right i heard i mean i'm somebody oh so now you're confusing with what is actually capable with your computer and what your will as a human being is. I understand you have the will to do that, but the object you are interacting with is not capable of doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You don't have the right hardware. You can't do it. I'm sorry. I do feel like this exposes... He seems genuinely confused by, like I really think the people around him are keeping him from the truth because he's so, you know, just chaotic and bad at his job that people are keeping him from like paying attention. They're just trying to give him the version of the facts that will allow him to step, step back and feel like they've got it under control.
Starting point is 00:37:51 So that's why he's like, right. Like I feel like he's almost like, but my employees, they said, right. This is,
Starting point is 00:37:58 this is why having a celebrity is as a president is really bad because celebrities, people around celebrities just tell them whatever they think they want to hear. And I feel like that is at least partially what's going on here. I mean, in all fairness, the same thing happens in D.C. It's just, as the saying goes, it's just Hollywood for ugly people. The same sort of amount of, I mean, granted, are academics there whose whose purpose is to know it
Starting point is 00:38:25 but there's also a lot of like oh shit like let's not let's not upset our dinosaur yeah right right so the next thing um you know wouldn't be a trump interview without some good old-fashioned white supremacy um you know jonathan swan asks uh about john lewis uh and just saying, I guess, for starters, you are aware who that man is. And immediately, Trump, I'll just listen to this. John Lewis is lying in state in the U.S. Capitol. How do you think history will remember John Lewis? I don't know. I really don't know. I don't know. I don't know John Lewis. He chose not to come to
Starting point is 00:39:05 my uh inauguration uh he chose uh i i don't i never met john lewis actually i don't believe okay so he starts off by basically mariah carey i don't know i don't know her yeah um but but you do know that he didn't come to your birthday party, but you remember that part. So he's already, like, I feel like most people as they listen to this are like, oh, shit, where is this going? And so Swan follows up just to try and hear more of his thoughts on the late congressman. Do you find him impressive?
Starting point is 00:39:42 I can't say one way or the other. I find a lot of people impressive. I find many people not impressive. But, no, but I didn't go. Do you find his story impressive? He didn't come to my inauguration. He didn't come to my State of the Union speeches. And that's okay. That's his right.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And, again, nobody has done more for black Americans than I have. I understand. He should have come. I think he made a big mistake. But taking your relationship with him out of it, do you find his story impressive, what he's done for this country? He was a person that devoted a lot of energy and a lot of heart to civil rights, but there were many others also. There's a petition to rename the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama as the John Lewis Bridge. Would you support that idea? I would have no objection to it if they'd like to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, that's a good idea. Would have no objection to it whatsoever. He then goes on to say that, you know, the things I've done for African-Americans between the getting the crime reform and just everything related to crime and prison. It was just that was his entire thrust of his argument about why he's been a champion for black people in this country. Again, revealing very much about what he believes the federal government's relationship is to black people, which is basically to incarcerate them or to, you know, over police them. It wasn't anything about upward social mobility. It was nothing about mortality rates or anything like that. them or to you know over police them it wasn't anything about upward social mobility it was nothing about mortality rates or anything like that protecting vulnerable people just you know they've uh got got got better jails now because of me yeah also serves as maybe a reminder that
Starting point is 00:41:16 while it is valuable to rename the uh the pettis bridge not going to solve anything that um or at least anything that uh that like inhibits what is actually on trump's uh in his plans right right he's like yeah yeah sure go ahead rename your bridge that's yeah do what you want you know we still got shit going on but can fort bragg be still named after braxton bragg the confederate general okay good the um can i still be named after my father fred trump who was in the plan can i keep my name can i be known as the son of clan fred clan i mean fred trump i do feel like the even white supremacists have to be listening to this answer and being like come the fuck on like you're it just he's making it seem so petty like all their all their arguments nah i don't i don't know see that's the thing it's like where it's almost like
Starting point is 00:42:12 are there white supremacists with shame no i don't think shame but i just think that they're like he yeah i don't know you know like oh man i would i look even though i'm gonna i'm gonna cape for something so intellectually and morally bankrupt as white supremacy, I still need our arguments to be fucking rock solid. Come on. Yeah. I do think that's the only reason Republicans ever had a problem with him is that, yeah, we agree. We believe all the same shit, but you're just putting it right the fuck out there. Have you not read The Art of War, bro?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's the thing people needed, because I think there are many well-meaning white people who didn't realize that that's just how things are operating, but there was this brand before that was smiley and kind or had the, you know, sort of the appearance of humanity and being humane when really the same sort of game plan had been there since day one.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yeah, we just talk openly about defunding schools instead of saying the N-word. Right, exactly. Well, yeah, we've just learned how to deracialize our racism, in there yeah we just talk openly about defunding schools instead of saying the n-word right exactly well yeah we've just learned how to de-racialize our racism but still hit the intended targets uh then finally uh the president is also asked you know about that very wild line he had about gielan maxwell uh about like why were you wishing her well in that yeah at that press briefing and okay he's just he wants to triple down on the well wishes it sounds like all over the country mr president the other day a reporter asked you
Starting point is 00:43:30 about galene maxwell you said quote i just wish her well frankly i've met her numerous times over the years especially since i lived in palm beach but i wish her well whatever it is mr president galene maxwell has been arrested on allegations of child sex trafficking. Why would you wish such a person well? Well, first of all, I don't know that, but I do know that... She has. She's been arrested for that. Her friend or boyfriend... Epstein.
Starting point is 00:43:54 ...was either killed or committed suicide in jail. She's now in jail. Uh-huh. Yeah, I wish her well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty. I mean, do you know that she's guilty? Oh, so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail. Is that what you mean by wish her well i'd wish a lot of people well good luck let them prove somebody was guilty i mean you
Starting point is 00:44:05 do you know that oh so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail is that what you mean by wish her well her boyfriend died in jail and people are still trying to figure out how did it happen was it suicide was he killed and i do wish you well i'm not looking for anything bad for her i'm not looking bad for anybody and they took that i mean she's a it such a big deal but all it is is her boyfriend died he died in jail won't you think about the Epstein child sex trafficking wouldn't you be freaked out
Starting point is 00:44:36 yeah I took out a full page ad to get 5 black kids killed in the 90s but I don't want anybody to die in jail unless I'm killing them get five black kids killed in the 90s but i don't want anybody to die in jail yeah right yeah unless i'm killing them or unless the state is killing them via i waged full-on war against five black children with no actual uh convictions yeah but yeah i hope i wish her well this alleged the fact he goes i didn't know i don't know that what do you mean you don't know that you don't know but you know who jeffrey epstein is and you know who gielan maxwell is y'all have been kicking it for a long time but now you're like again that's why it's so weird and murky like is is he afraid of what she's gonna say is he trying to be like yo i got you just fuck up like i don't what is going
Starting point is 00:45:26 on it the whole thing is just so confusing and upsetting it's really funny to me the notion of like if somebody like gives you information to your face and instead of like past tense i didn't know that to be like oh i don't know that right the thing you the thing you just told me i don't know it and i'm gonna hit my brain not And I'm going to argue based on not knowing. That's what you have to stop and be like. It hit my ears, but not my brain. Okay. So now you do.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm just telling you. So you know now that she is an alleged child sex trafficker who's in prison awaiting trial. No, no, I don't know that. No, no, I'm telling you that. I don't know, but I don't know that. Okay. You're telling me that, and I didn't know that, but I also don't know that okay you're telling me that and i didn't know that but i also don't know that what are those red stains on your shirt mr president looks like ketchup
Starting point is 00:46:10 oh no that's blood that's blood oh yeah oh god okay but you could have just said but i don't you didn't hear that from me you didn't hear that from me okay i don't know that it's and i don't know that yeah who knows and whose is it i don't know who's to say who's to say i don't know i don't know i died in jail knows? And whose is it? I don't know. Who's to say? Who's to say? I don't know. I don't know. I died in jail. It was a fate I wouldn't wish on anyone. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So this whole thing gets murkier and murkier. And yeah, El Presidente. Her boyfriend died in jail. The amount of sympathy and empathy he's able to feel for Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein is pretty troubling. And again, this is the guy who is the godhead of a suicide cult that entire reason for existence is anti-child sex trafficking. reason for existence is anti-child sex trafficking. Yeah. I also feel like the word boyfriend really undercuts
Starting point is 00:47:08 the gravity. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. That's like what my shit. You say husband. Husband. Like an adult. Like a life partner. Partner in crime. Like they were partners. Her business partner died in jail. Yeah. He wasn't just
Starting point is 00:47:24 some guy who was like pushing her passenger seat all the way back and putting it on full recline when he got in the car. The extent of their relationship was far beyond that. That's just like some dude you're dating who's like, why is your car like this? Why is your front seat like this? Who are you dating? So, yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:47:39 it goes on and on, but you know, her boyfriend died in jail. It could be murder. Ghislaine, Ghislaine, we wish her well. Oh, boy. All right, let's take another quick break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:51:59 which I, one of my most traumatic memories from the past five years is the debate he had with Hillary Clinton when he was stalking her around the stage. That shit was so brutal. I remember when I was in Oakland on a work trip, watching my hotel room, just being like, oh, God, this is awful.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah. It was funny because he looked exactly like that picture of him watching uh baron mow the lawn oh right same stance yeah just that sort of i'm not trying to gain any information right now i'm just here he always looks like he's about to do the lean from smooth criminal the michael jackson video like where he's about to just go any are you but there's never quite guests there. It's just those heel lifts. Any am I okay? Baron, am I okay? I feel like
Starting point is 00:52:51 if he leaned even an inch in that direction, he would just topple. Again, the strategy is while he is just tanking in the poles, and I get it. We're not using the poles to go to sleep at night and say, don't worry, I guess that's a wrap.
Starting point is 00:53:07 But just a good snapshot that most people are basically fed the fuck up with what's going on, how on the daily he's slandering experts, making up new racial slurs for COVID-19, whatever it is. And his rallies have just been lame. They're just about, you know, the Tulsa one was like, I gave people a tax cut. I beat Killary and I built a wall so mighty that a gust of wind blew it over. And that's a pretty much all the rallies are now. It's like talking about shit he did when he went to Hannity a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We were talking about how Hannity was like, all right, underhand or slugger, knock it out the park. What's your vision for your second term? right, underhander, slugger, knock it out the park. What's your vision for your second term? And he's like, just went off on some bullshit that absolutely having to do with nothing or a vision of the future. Meanwhile, Joe Biden is in his sarcophagus chilling, watching his donations come in and the poll numbers rise.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And like the one weakness that Biden has is kind of the same that Trump is, which is like, don't let them talk about serious shit out loud in public. Right. and so now it's like that's where we do the final battle on the debate stage like where public i mean the granted i think biden will be able to restrain himself but we've also seen how he's been i mean he wasn't even like two months ago where he was like if you don't vote for you ain't black so i can't imagine what happens if trump starts getting on his bullshit and getting biden because like i feel like my strategy with joe biden is get him upset and get him to just come out of pocket by just fucking
Starting point is 00:54:34 yeah ask him what you're gonna do for black people and he will tell you what he's allegedly already done for black people right for way too long that's just gonna be the most uncomfortable debate answer where they're like uh this president this goes for both uh candidates uh what have you done for the african-american community and what will you continue to do oh i've done so much my my base is my base is the african-americans my base is the african my base is the african-american my base is the african-american that's my base just Just back and forth. No treble. All bass. Come on, man. All bass. He's going to start every answer just pissed off.
Starting point is 00:55:08 That's it. Come on, Joe. His debate tactic was just... My bass guitar is the African-American, and I'm slapping and popping. His tactic was to just be so mad the whole time. I feel like if this debate happens, and I think they're going to, right? Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, the schedule, the first debate is scheduled for September 29th.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So it seems like they're... Is he trying to move debates up while also delaying the election? Yes. Well, look, he's trying it all. You got to throw... It's a kitchen sink approach. You know, if maybe you can delay, you can gerrymander, you can vote to suppress votes. You can try and get more debates.
Starting point is 00:55:48 One of his campaign, his new campaign manager was saying like, he's like, quote, we want more debates. We want debates starting sooner. And the thing is, he's saying the first debate is scheduled for September 29th. By that time, 16 states will already have voted like for early voting. So that's a concern. that time 16 states will already have voted like for early voting. So that's a concern. So I think what they want to do is maybe they're hoping if they can get Biden,
Starting point is 00:56:08 like in a weird jam on a debate stage, that that'll move the needle some direction. But at the, at the very least, I mean, I think what they need is just make sure that like Joe Biden has one of those Darth Vader boxes that like George. had in those gore debates. Whatever they need to do to be like,
Starting point is 00:56:26 don't do an anecdote involving people of color, Joe. Do not do it. Please just use a statistic. Please. Right. He's like, I remember when I used to work outside at this convenience store, this liquor store, and I was just sweeping,
Starting point is 00:56:44 and my friend Turbo showed me some cool moves with the broomstick. And this movie that's, and the way he was doing stuff with the broom, and he taught me how to do it, it looked like magic. And I could be making, this could have been a scene from the movie Breaking, but I also believe this was my friend from real life. He talks with such an open mouth. He's like, I remember back in the 90s, a friend of mine, I met a guy who had an apple orchard. And I went to that apple orchard. And we just picked a couple. We just picked a couple.
Starting point is 00:57:16 We just. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on. You ain't black. Come on. I've been with these people. I've been around these people.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It really is. never finishes the story it's like yeah you start off strong and then it's and then there's the the stumbling turns to aggression which is come on man i ain't racist it's basically how it all sums up he's like you know and i've been i've been out here in Pennsylvania. I know what's going on in Scranton. And you got your factory jobs, and your dad went to work. And it was hard. And then he'd come back and kiss your mother. And she had dinner on the table. The kids were at school. But now, with this guy right now, it's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Who's looking after us? And come on, man. I could go on for hours, but I think my time's up and I yield. And then he just angrily says his website. And now you go to JoeBiden.com.edu. Yeah, go to Joe2813308004. Hit Mike Jones up on the low because Mike Jones about to blow. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I'm mixing up my favorite rap song, Houston in the Building. All right, guys. Real quick, let's take a look at the Super Spreader event calendar. Get your planners out. Let's figure out which ones we're going to hit. So turns out the Lake of the Ozarks is the place to be if you want to turn up and contract an illness. They had an EDM show with hundreds of people,
Starting point is 00:58:56 no masks, no social distancing. That's, yeah. The scenes were worse than that Southamampton like rave where like the head of goldman sachs was one of the djs like the dj acts uh this was you know with the last time was i think was it memorial day weekend or right before memorial day weekend where lake of the ozarks was popping and everyone's like what is everyone doing at that pool party just like drinking the off of each other's shorts and shit yeah now it was this other bar out there had a this rave imagine finding out you got covid after you
Starting point is 00:59:31 spent like half an hour with somebody doing the little glow fingers in your face oh my god i mean yeah i mean i used to get like you could get a little cold at a rave sometimes that's from the sweat and not dressing right for the occasion because you're out in the desert in the middle of winter yeah but but again that already happened so don't worry and if you're less molly and more harley uh sturgis is right around the corner the fucking sturgis motorcycle rally is not being postponed the only thing they're like we're actually kind of bummed it's gonna be less people than normal because we can't have people coming from Canada like we normally do. So this year we're expecting as many as 250,000 people. Ah, what?
Starting point is 01:00:13 Ah, yep. No. I mean, it's not like they're going to be able to get the typical amazing lineup of artists, right? Oh, do you know? Okay, so if you've seen any i was used to be fascinated with sturgis because it was the furthest thing from like black and asian culture i'd ever seen was like whoa what is this and like everyone's in this campsite called the buffalo chip and it just like goes the fuck off in there where is sturgis is it south dakota wow okay so um at the
Starting point is 01:00:41 at the um buffalo chip like this is like where it's always at. People go to have concerts every year. They have a full on lineup. It's a full at a whole ass concert festival happening. And I'm not joking. These are the bands that are still billed to perform. 38 Special, Smash Mouth, Night Ranger, Buck Cherry, Quiet Riot, Drowning Pool, the Guess Who? special smash mouth night ranger buck cherry quiet riot drowning pool the guess who and then it gets into a bunch of other bands i had not heard of but um i oh lit will also be playing
Starting point is 01:01:13 these people are going to be playing at this presumably completely unsafe i don't know unsafe motorcycle rallying festival. Check it out. I expect this from 38 Special, but Smash Mouth? Yeah. I think he's the lead singer. He's kind of a rogue. He just does whatever the fuck he wants to.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Everybody needs to check out the YouTube video of him when somebody threw a roll on stage at him during a concert as All Star was about to begin. And he went into the crowd to fight the people who threw the roll while his band was vamping the beginning of All Star the whole time. It's one of the great displays of professionalism that I've ever seen. I feel like that's built into the song yeah
Starting point is 01:02:09 psalm uh i i happen to know a couple people who have like gone on road trips up through like the south dakota montana area in the past like month. And they all say that mask adoption throughout that part of the country is like zero. And I think you can get away with that because it's just like so wide open. There's not a lot of people together at the same time. But this could could get. I mean, either way, if you look sort of at the website for the buffalo chip and like the sturgis event itself you know they all they kind of always say like oh we've got registrations from this part of the country this part of the corner like so like you know you might be able to find
Starting point is 01:02:55 people to ride out like to the you know the event with and this map is every every state i mean it's this is one i mean it's the one of the biggest motorcycle rallies in the country um so it's just gonna be like it's truly going to be like a super spreader event like if there is an outbreak there and you have people essentially representing most of the contiguous 50s the states 48 states um yeah it's just this flyer is too crowded for me like yeah the flyer that they put out is oh you know like the aesthetic it's just it's so busy there's so much going on it feels like just the band names are too close together yeah the i'm like the art is really interesting. It looks like some kind of demon with a Casey Jones hockey mask on with an American flag. Which, at this point, is just like hate speech.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah, right. Yeah, basically. Yeah, exactly. We hate speech. There's nobody with a mask. Oh, I mean, the motorcyclist, I guess, has a mask on, but that's more to be intimidating and not because they are actually looking after people. And then above that, there are beer bottles with wings.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Like, it's like that after dark screensaver from the early 90s. Do you think they thought about taking the mask off? Like, do you think people are going to think it's too political? Right. Oh, probably, yeah. Oh, he's like my Punisher mask?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, it looks like a Punisher mask, for sure. Or the Bane mask mask a little bit. The guys behind him, though, are cartoons with giant tongues wagging out of their mouths, so you can be sure that they're not doing no mask bullshit. Hell no, man. Fully planned without COVID in mind. Yeah, I mean, this is, God, we see it everywhere.
Starting point is 01:04:44 There's just these elements of people fully rejecting what's happening, fully rejecting their lack of control over this pandemic and what the outcomes are going to be. And it's clearly for some people just better to embrace this sort of ignorance is bliss attitude of like, don't let this fuck up my good time, even though potentially could have terrible ramifications for me and my family. I mean, that was one of the details of the Swan interview that was interesting, because there's no accountability for the Oklahoma rally, the Tulsa rally that Trump had that probably killed Herman Cain. It was a bunch of people really close together, indoors, not wearing masks. But people are like, yeah, but we can't know for sure where people got sick. Right. And he was like, yeah, there was an uptick in coronavirus, but it was like one month, two months, three months later.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's like, we're not even three months later now. What are you talking about? About two weeks. Yeah. It's two weeks. you talking about? About two weeks. Yeah. Two weeks. That's his thing about two weeks. It's only been about four to 14 days. Okay. Since I was inaugurated, I'm just getting started.
Starting point is 01:05:55 All right. So if you want to catch literally every type of coronavirus from a sampling from all 48 contiguous United States, I'd highly recommend this party, the best party anywhere, as it's being advertised on this. By the way, the poster is clearly drawn by that kid who drew really gnarly shit on the back of his trapper keeper in high school.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I didn't know that that was like a career trapper keeper art but yeah you feel like there should be like a cool s on there right yeah right exactly i'm surprised there's not an eight ball on there that's typical that anchors the whole piece usually i'm surprised there's not like calvin peeing on something like a mask like on oh yeah like a honda logo or some shit the the other thing though, is one more thing about the people of Sturgis. It's like six out of ten people were like, please don't have this event here. Please, please, please postpone it. We don't want this here.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We don't want a quarter of a million people coming through. And the owner of the Buffalo Chip is like, I'm closed 355 days of the year, man. So I'm like a one week of business out of the year kind of business so the show is gonna go on so and look yeah the buffalo chip has nothing if not integrity right exactly uh just a couple businesses that are going out of business or i guess it's all one i didn't realize lord and taylor is also owner of men's warehouse um and a couple other places but they are going to be declaring bankruptcy and just a lot of local stores like i don't know if you guys are seeing this around where you are but there's like an independently
Starting point is 01:07:38 owned toy store in my neighborhood that has been open for 33 years that is going out of business oh it is yeah i know exactly what you're talking about really yeah yeah that one's gone out of business uh they already closed the one that's like toys for older kids that's like two windows down and the other one is now just like everything must go 50 off but um, I mean, a lot of these places that are retail, small shop little areas are going to be like ghost towns. I don't necessarily blame the landlords because landlords are also need their income. But it seems like there needs to be some... That's the thing that you're starting to hear from people just in polls is we need something like some overall plan from the federal government because like what what's the what's going to happen to these stores like what once things open back up
Starting point is 01:08:37 like what who yeah all these businesses that have been successful businesses for 33 years are gone. And who's going to replace them? The mega corporations. Right. Is it all? Is there just going to be- That's just massive wealth redistribution. Amazon is just going to own all the, it's just going to be all Amazon stores? Well, I think the problem, to your point of the suck starts at the top with the banks
Starting point is 01:09:02 or whoever owns a lot of these mortgages which is the reason why people need to pay a landlord because they're most landlords are paying their mortgage like you're paying their mortgage so they don't not many landlords own their building and it's like fully on some passive income type thing it's like yeah this is like i'm kind of caught up in this cycle so like you're with me too but see if your checks start then i can't kick up to the bank so that's why i gotta get you out and see if i can get somebody in and yes this is a short-term strategy but yes you'd hope the federal government would look at that and say okay we need to work something out with the people who own most of these loans and talk to them and say we need to put this shit
Starting point is 01:09:38 on pause for at least two to three months and not even and it's not even like collect your what you are owed for these two three months we are going to have to eat this yeah two to three months i don't think they see how the short term plays out in the long term and like we're absolutely just building another housing bubble once again and the exact same shit is going to happen you know america is just going to be like a haunted landscape after this shit because like think about like all those malls are just going to be empty like Lorden like who's going to move into a Lorden Taylor
Starting point is 01:10:10 sized like footprint on it right a mall like that's just going to be I'll admit it is like we want to open another Macy's on the other side of this right but it's like Macy's is probably get like all they're not doing that great yeah all these stores are going to go away like if this keeps going and the federal government doesn't like have a plan to like, you know, help companies or help like these, especially small businesses out.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It's just going to look like a fucking apocalypse. Yeah. I'm curious to know if anyone has any information on what the attitudes are, because I think like and I always say this just from a purely business standpoint, you think look if we can just put we just put this shit on pause for four months straight up like is there a way to actually not cause all this strife and damage to the economy and keep people in their jobs if we did this the right way and why aren't we looking at it like that because I'm sure a lot of these companies like, fine, yeah, maybe Trump will get people back to work and our stores can reopen. But it's like consumer confidence is low.
Starting point is 01:11:09 People don't want to go out to the mall and do anything like that. I mean, some people do, but it's not going to be the same where you think, what is the best strategy as a business? Do we talk to them and say, we got to figure out a way to just as if we're just putting pause on everything? Not it's a violent sort of deconstruction of everything that has already been existing prior to this i mean epidemiologists are saying just do a nationwide 14-day shutdown again just everything's closed for those 14 days but they're
Starting point is 01:11:38 not even willing to do that like they they just won't eat the two weeks of like lost economy. Because many people are like the polling reflects and now a majority of Americans want a strategic plan that is nationwide to address this. Because now people are like, wow, I think now it's like reaching that tipping point where now people who weren't as engaged with the politics of it and the nuances that are like, yo, I'm actually thinking of a better way to do this and i'm not even an expert right yeah i'm just like passively observing this and like this is not right yeah i mean there are so many better ways to do first of all how many how many billions of dollars has uh jeff bezos made since he made 13 billion in a day has there been a discussion of that five i mean like yeah like how are we not how are we not even looking a little bit to somebody like that to say like could you give up just like a couple billion right just toss that back or how about this be like hey asshole you made 13 billion in one day okay we're gonna take that day from you yeah just yeah just eat
Starting point is 01:12:43 that sorry sorry you only worked or you didn't really work, but your bank account existed for only 364 days this year. Yeah. You know what I mean? His ex-wife donated $1.5 billion to a Black Lives Matter charity, and two days later, she had already replaced that just with gains from Amazon stock growth, like just in two days.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. So that's the other thing. So when you look at what we do, like, yeah, we have all these people that are hoarding wealth.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It's not going back into the economy. It's not accessible to people who are trying to enter a new socioeconomic class. It's just not there because they're sitting on it. And if we don't have the kind of leaders who are trying to enter a new socioeconomic class. It's just not there because they're sitting on it. And if we don't have the kind of leaders who are going to actually sort of clearly look at that as an issue and say, yeah, the problem is
Starting point is 01:13:33 there are too few people with all the money. So, sorry, we're going to have to, you know, you're going to have to run that. We need some money now. Yeah. Is that not any indication anybody that it's not based on anything also if you can rate replace 1.5 billion dollars in a couple days right does that not clue you in that like this shit isn't really real yeah you know mckenzie
Starting point is 01:13:58 scott actually gave uh the money to historically black colleges and other groups it was 1.7 billion just to wow okay make sure i get that right yeah it's a it's a problem things it's not it's not working the system's not working and this is just you know like we said at the outset this is like a stress test for you know when they when they want to see how healthy your heart is so they put you on a treadmill and make you walk uphill for a mile like Like the, that is this for our country. And we're like three steps, two, five,
Starting point is 01:14:29 three steps in and leading from the eyes. Yeah. Yeah. It's not good. Issue is it definitely is working, but this is kind of how it's designed, you know? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:37 It's like, you're not fully exposed. Yeah. You're full. You're not valuable to this system. If you don't, if you can't provide labor and right now nobody can provide labor, so none of us are valuable. And we're having a hard time of pivoting away from that to have purely productivity-based automatons clocking in and out, watching revenue come in and out, to something more humane of like, wow, this is really fucked up.
Starting point is 01:15:06 of like wow this is really fucked up like yeah but you know most people in this country are not able to survive even not working for five days uh yeah so what are we going to do and i mean i mean there there is more momentum gaining for people sort of engaging with the ideas of universal basic income and things like that because, like when you're working like a full on a minimum wage job and, or, and you have multiple jobs, that is not a life. That's not a way to live. It's a struggle and it's painful.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And it's unfortunately how this, this country just sort of looks at what the human experience should be. It's like, well, they're working. It's that hard work. You know, you got to work hard.
Starting point is 01:15:42 It's means like, no, no, no, they can't see their families. They can't, they don't have any time for themselves they are stressed their health is in decline that is not a way to live that is just people being run ragged for the sake of maximum you know revenue extraction yeah it's it's so morbidly funny to me that just like people are now being booted out of their jobs by automation and they're not given a safety net to replace that income
Starting point is 01:16:05 and now those robots that are taking their jobs are producing products that nobody needs right just like shit that goes into a fucking infomercial and they're just like okay who is buying no they're going straight to a landfill right we're trying to create demand for a product that barely replaces a toothbrush yeah you know You know? Yeah. And now, and purely the capitalist machine just like feeding into itself and providing for no one. Just give these oligarchs,
Starting point is 01:16:32 just take their money, give them a nice prize. Like you say, Jack, what is it? Like you won capitalism award. Yeah, yeah. And now, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:41 we're going to patch your pockets and now your savings is actually only down to $20 million. Right. Thanks for playing, but you'll be fine with $20 million, asshole. Now leave me alone. They would fight to the death to prevent that from happening. Yeah, I mean, they would die before they would be left with $1 billion. Yeah, they would get their own Pinkertons and shit to beat ass and all that.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I mean, you could only imagine what that game looks like when the wealth of these billionaires is at stake and they find a way to privatize. Oh, boy. Oh, we would lose. You mean 2021? Badly and quickly. In the current version of America, if that fight happened,
Starting point is 01:17:20 we would lose that fight very quickly. Well, Yedoye, it has been a pleasure having you on the show despite the depressing state of our nation. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me all over. I am at ProfessorDoye on Instagram, YedoyeOT on Twitter. Got a new podcast out with Crunchyroll called Anime in America.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Third episode just dropped, I guess this is coming out tomorrow, so yesterday. And I got stand-up clips all over the place. Yeah, yeah. Some great ones. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:00 So this is from a friend of mine, Dante Powell. And he said last week, he said, if you're not calling Terry Crews Jim Crow, spelled G-Y-M, then you're wasting your time. That's such a good tweet that that was yesterday's guest. Marcella. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, she was loving that one too. It's so good that it deserves it. She's out of myself as not listening to it. I have a secondary one if you want that. it deserves it yeah he's out of myself he's not listening to i have a i have a secondary one if you want that yeah yeah let's do it okay this one is from uh at kennuk uh k-e-n-n-u-c-k it says uh this is an unfortunate instance of a tweet with a typo blowing up but it says my son is wearing a magma cap uh supposed to be maga my son is wearing a maga cap and a vote trump 2020 button he's been spat on punched and verbally abused i hate to think what will happen when he leaves the house
Starting point is 01:18:51 boom that was so good uh miles where can people find you follow you what's tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram playstation network from time to time although i'm fully lost in ghost of tsushima right now so it's not really we're not playing together i'm just i'm sorry i'm sakai jin right now and my uncle's name is jing so like i'm i'm in there uh and i'm like calling my other japanese friends like what party you had and we're all laughing because like all of our family members have like hello old samurai era names like they're like these are all our like moms and aunts names they're not the coolest japanese names anyway uh and also my other podcast 420 day fiance with sophia alexander we just get They're like, these are all our moms and aunts' names. They're not the coolest Japanese names.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Anyway, and also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexander. We just get high talking about 90 Day Fiance just to get our mind off this other shit. So some tweets that I like. First one is from at Shea Lounger, C-H-E-L-A-U-N-G-E-R. It says, playing piano is so easy. You simply depress the key indicated on the sheet music a child's instrument assessment of a piano and another one's from brody reed at aobrobro uh saying hosting ellen should be the tignitaro twitter account of daytime talk shows i 100 agree with that yeah for people who don't know tignitararo famously basically lets a comedian every day just tweet from her account and just put somebody else on that pedestal.
Starting point is 01:20:11 But yeah, so do the same thing. Did it a few years ago. I'd like to revisit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Brody actually has the tweet I wanted to share. So Mashable shared this video. Thumb prosthetic built for those unsatisfied with having five fingers.
Starting point is 01:20:26 The video of the thing where people have a sixth finger that they're using in all sorts of different ways. And Brody tweeted, oh, you thought you were done masturbating this quarantine? You can find us. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song
Starting point is 01:20:56 We Ride Out on Miles. What are we riding out on today? This is a track called 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. And I was doing the Tang Crack Command For those people who are about hip hop But it's from L. Michaels Affair Which is a great band And I like them because they're just live
Starting point is 01:21:16 They play, they're multi-instrumentalists I think it's actually, he'll play With a band, but the man Leon Michaels, who's like Whose project it is they they do everything like they did a fully uh instrumental like with band instruments uh it's called enter the 37th chamber where they're just covering wu-tang songs with a full band uh then there's like they've got a ton of really cool stuff like that uh and cover hip-hop tracks but this one um
Starting point is 01:21:41 i'm not sure what it's from but but it's just a really, really dope. It feels like a sample bass track, but it's all just, you know, it's got the perfect little pedals and things on the electric piano and bass and drums that it's just got a great vibe. And there's like somebody speaking Japanese in the background. It's just got everything. So check out 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 by El Michael. Dope.
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