The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Can’t Handle The Truth, NFT The Restaurant? 1.13.22

Episode Date: January 13, 2022

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 219 episode 4 of the daily zeitgeist a production of i heart radio this this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness i'm glad you asked it's thursday january 13th 2022 which of course means it's national well i mean jack you don't know you don't know. And you don't know. And you don't know.

Look, it's Korean American Day. Shout out all my Korean Americans. It's National Rubber Ducky Day. Wow. National whatever, sticker day. Who gives a shit about that? Huge day for my kids, man. They love all their Korean Americans who love stickers and rubber duckies.

Yeah. So shout out to all your them don't let them find out about this shit or they'll expect presents or something anyway you're proud now okay keep that same energy up tomorrow when it's not korean american day whoa whoa my name well it's jack o'brien aka you down with tdz yeah you know me TDZ? Yeah, you know me. Miles Gray and J-O-B? Yeah, you know me. Who's down with TDZ? Every last lefty.

That is courtesy of Chris Mackling. Mackling with energy. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I always feel like I just saw Michael Stipe. But it was just some guy. Oh, I always feel like I just saw Michael Stipe. Guess I'm just super high. Oh.

Thank you so much to Haas Bossman on the Discord. The Haas Bossman. For that Rockwell inspired. I mean, you know, AKA. They have continued to just get better and better that was that was a high point for the you mistaking some guy and trader joe's for michael stipe aka i gotta say very well done hoss have you heard people call people hoss in anywhere in your life in your lifetime like i remember people would say that flippantly about like a big

kid okay like i remember like he's a grade and that like my flag football coach look at that kid he's a hoss that's a real kentucky thing is people calling each other hoss what's that what does that mean horse i think it's just like man or bud right in kentucky okay but why was why would you say someone's a hoss and like a gesture to their physical presence being like... Yeah, yeah. No, for sure that is the more common usage of the phrase. But in terms of just like being a general all-purpose kind of greeting, that was big in Kentucky,

and I've never heard it since I moved out of there. Yeah. Give us more inside information, Zyking, if you know the etymology behind it. Yeah, yeah. Well, Miles, we are thrilled, we're delighted to be joined by a very funny writer, graphic designer, illustrator, and one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it. His album, 16 Bits, is available wherever fine comedy albums can be

streamed, heard, downloaded. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Stephen Wilber! Stephen! Oh, Stephen only happens when it's Wilber. Wilbers

only love you when they're Steven Thank you to Baccarat for that one. Stevens, they will come and they will go. Okay, Steven. Is that true or is it just rumors? Exactly. Oh, come on.

Okay, Stevie. There he is. Nicks. Oh, shit. Can we keep Stevie. Nicks. Oh, shit. Can we keep this going? Nope. All day. Nope, let's just end it right there.

What's new, man? Nothing. I moved to it. I feel like every time I've done this show, I've lived in a different place. Yeah, where are you now? I was in Kentucky, land of the hosses, And now I'm back in L.A., baby. All right. Oh, you are?

Okay, because I remember the first time, I think, we were all in a hotel room in Portland. Yeah. Yeah. Wild night. We were there once. Yeah. Wild night. Kicking off, I believe there are rumors that that recording caused COVID-19.

That's where it originally. But, you know, we're not going to hold ourselves accountable for that. And then, yeah, so then from there you went to Kentucky and now you're back in LA, huh? Yeah. Did anybody call you Hoss while you were in Kentucky? Uh, no. They mostly called

me things that are not podcast safe. Oh, how long have you been back in LA? Since August. Oh, shit. Okay. You look great, man. You were here, then you went to Portland, then Kentucky, and then you're back.

What's it like coming back? Better. I feel like COVID has really helped my expectations on getting famous. So I get to appreciate it more. Yeah yeah sure yeah one of the leading indicators and symptoms of covet is that it helps your expectations with getting famous yeah absolutely you do have a photograph of a cat in the uh same laser field that i was photographed in for my

third grade picture behind yeah it Yeah, it's a blanket. It's a big old blankie. Is that a commissioned work or that's a retail? It was a gift. This is my cat Thunder. Oh, shit. Yeah. He also only

happens when it's raining. That's also not true. Just can we let them know your your cat may only happen when it's raining but uh that the thunder only happening when it's raining is not true and it's i've said it before i'll say it again i do not listen to stevie nicks when it comes to her meteorological advice fucks me every time, you guys. Every single time. I feel like did you guys have that laser background, childhood

school picture? I did for one of them, yeah. Ours was always some shitty texture. It looked like granite or something. They never let you... Wait, never had the wild ass. Wait, you got the shoes?

No, but like every once in a while they would come in. There would be like, I think a couple options, but it would just be like a green screen and. Oh, got it. Yeah. Oh, no, yeah, no, we had one. You have to look really brave. We had just one little sad, you know,

seamless that the guy would roll down. And it looked like just like a painter's like what they like put down on the ground when you're painting. Because it's kind of like splatter painting on canvas. I don't know. It was just very uninteresting. Never arrived to the laser level. That's for sure. The thing I remember the most was we had the same guy every year and he would always like call you out on something and

then say that instead of cheese like he would be like hey you look like you eat a lot of hamburgers say hamburger did you guys did i had the same our this one dude had our school pictures on log too i remember he was a guy who was like this big dude who had a ponytail and always wore shorts and like and i always just remember his like high white socks and his shorts and he would always be like uh-oh this guy's got ears huh oh look right here bing boom and i'm like yo why are you talking this guy's got ears like you yeah it seems like um i don't know like if there's a methodology right to this kind of thing where it's like get you with a line distract you disorient you ask you to smile then i got it or maybe say something that because he would also do sad ass jokes i don't remember

being in line like yo this dude sucks bro did you ever i told you about my ex wife hey this kid doesn't have rich parents say macaroni right fuck what a racket what uh they're still doing it they're still doing it fucking scam these fucking guys for their school but do that shit at home they still they still do it even though like there's a photograph of my kids probably for every hour they've been alive just because i like taking pictures of them i think're cute. And I'm sure that's true of most children who are alive today. You love taking pictures of them? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's true of most children out there. They're so cute. Look over here. Ears. That's what I like to say to them. Hey, ears, what? That's why all my pictures of me, like, in the middle of being, like, my face is like, I was hurt by that comment. Yeah.

All right, Steven, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Trump going on NPR and just getting owned, severe ownage. By direct questions.

Yeah. Like the battle rapper of NPR, Steve Inskeep, just straight flamed this. Steve Rabbit? We'll talk about that. Yeah, exactly. Steve Inskeep, the B-Rabbit of NPR.

We'll talk about Prince Andrew. We will talk about the new NFT restaurant. And we might even get to the Oscars, which are looking at having a host again. Oh. Yes. Look at that. Really? Tim Allen.

And it will be Tim Allen. Yeah. Last man standing. Before we get to any of that, we do like to ask our guests, Stephen, what is something from your search history? Well, I was looking this up because, not to brag, but I'm working on a bit of a screenplay. So like Hollywood, all my search things are like just trying to make sure my references are right, like or like trying to think of something to put in it. So in order, I've got coffee maker cleaning tabs the jamie kennedy experiment one

hit wonders from the 2000s blacklisted celebrities finance related holidays and then john benet ramsay oh okay what is it it all leads back to john benet ramsay can you give me a log line for this script you know don't don't you know i don't have to reveal everything but i mean what if a guy was sad all right i love it and had a computer yeah and google and uh and final and final draft well i'm still on the trial so okay fingers crossed i get it done by then hopefully i got five more days to get it's a great motivator yeah yeah right so you have to use another fake email to sign up for a trial copy it's a great clock menace threat if you will a little screenwriting so what what's i mean let me why what is it coffee machine cleaning tablets how you said coffee machine cleaning tablets? How you said coffee? Yeah. Cleaning tablets.

That's a thing. Yeah. Like little, and then they dissolve in the water and then you run the water through the coffee maker and it cleans it up. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Got it. Okay. So this is an action film. It's a buddy comedy. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it.

Oh, you didn't put the cleaning tabs in the coffee maker roge and roge is a cleaning tab he's like what you want me to kill myself my favorite uh genre of movies are the ones that you start out thinking they're about one thing but then in the end they're actually about john bonnet ramsey like the rock yeah exactly or like that 9-11 movie the one where it's rob pattinson and then yeah you find out at the end it's right like right right yeah does yours end with a reveal pull back that it's the the neighbor like you pull back from a home alone remake and then like he happens to live next door to JonBenet Ramsey.

Right. Oh, Christmas. Christmas starts out as a JonBenet Ramsey thing and then you zoom, the final scene he finally makes the ultimate sacrifice the coffee tap does and lets the other guy clean the coffee

pot and then it zooms out Branch Davidian compound. Boom. I love this. the other guy clean the coffee pot and then it zooms out branch davidian compound boom i love this do people know about that robert pattinson movie like it was a we've talked about it for a little bit but yeah because the reveal is someone just scrawling it on a blackboard right like today's date yeah yeah yeah in 2011 yeah last scene is intercut between he has gone to meet somebody at the world trade center we're intercutting that with somebody who's in class the teacher just writes uh 9-11 on the on the chalkboard and then cut back to him and you pull out and he's in at the top of the world trade center as like a plane is coming

in and then you planes coming in and him and mark walberg lock eyes through his window seat you got this to be continued is that edward cullen yeah i mean i i would love to just to see a john benet spin at the end if if that's what you're going in for so i'm signed up boom what is uh what's something you think is overrated something i think is overrated is the hate that is already popping up over wordle like the the takes on wordle and its popularity because i think we had the mannequin challenge we've had we've had some like wow mannequin challenge so like back so like it's a trend that like makes people think a little bit like do it all you want yeah yeah because i remember just seeing like the first

article be like why are people posting their wordles things on Twitter? And I was like, I don't know if it's a fucking game. Like, why is there an article examining like the why of it? Like, clearly it's something that's become popular. But it's like a Scrabble type game. It's like a it's a you're you guess. So you try to guess a word and then it tells you how many letters you've gotten right or are in the word but somewhere else or not in the word at all and you go down six times trying

to figure out what the word is yeah i'm pretty good at it i gotta say i've resisted the temptation to put it out there put out my scores but i've gotten it one out of seven times so i'm fucking nailing it okay oh so you actually hopped in based on the what you saw on twitter i mean i i like fuck with the new york times crossword puzzle and like they're oh you're a shorts boy yeah uh i do the the long one and, what's the word, scramble one, where you got to make up as many words as possible. Oh, like Boggle? Yeah, yeah.

Is that what it's called, Boggle? Nice trying New York Times. Boggle's the game, the little board game. Yeah. But I like Wordle. Wordle's fun. Okay. Yeah.

Are you a Wordle head? Yeah, I am now, yeah. After I saw people hating onhead yeah I am now yeah after after I saw people hating on it I was like well these people are dumb you know what I do I drive right into the hatred yeah make sense of it there are you good though uh pretty good

pretty good yeah completion rate have you changed have you uh shared any of your results? Oh, Christ, no. I would never. But I have seen other people share their results, and I'm like, I got that one sooner. I'm going to.

But then I don't. I resist the urge to share mine. And is that why people are hating? Because some people are just being like, this game sucks. And look at my wordle. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe.

Or maybe people just don't like a thing that they don't understand. That seems to be a trend. We have so much fucking stress. Why waste your fucking energy being like, I fucking hate wordle scores! Seriously. And I get people are frustrated.

So we're all just big thunder clouds looking for a lightning rod to strike down our energy onto. But I'm telling you, it's not going to change anything, articulating your anger at the wordle. There's other outlets. Yeah. Yeah. Like this Bozo Trump. We'll talk about him later. Thanks. Thank you. you you want something to

chew on folks but the thunder doesn't only happen when it's raining very true we've covered what is something that you think is underrated steven supply chain issues supply chain yeah i think not having a ps5 has really helped me uh with my productivity uh case in point so you're saying it's good thank you yeah i'm right blessed blessed to have a chips shortage yeah is your character the main character is like searching for a ps5 in the script though it's like still entering your consciousness or uh they're searching for a turbo man action figure actually oh my god and it's uh john and patsy ramsey for christmas trying to get a turbo man she's gonna be so upset if we don't get it we're home and we got a turbo oh my god that's so they're out shopping the whole time.

They never say their full name. And then they get home finally getting the thing. And the daughter is jumping out. And I really hate to spoil it, but Sinbad does it. He's the killer because he's so mad.

And it's a turbo man. Totally a breakout role for him because Sinbad's been so family friendly. It's like when like Robin Williams did like one hour photo and people were like, what the fuck? Is there a more unfamily friendly role than that? The killer. I don't think so. That you're a child murderer? No.

Yeah. I think that's up there yeah all right well i'm looking forward to that movie hitting uh hitting theaters yeah the black probably first yeah do not forget it ends with waco i can't stress that it It's all the JonBenet stuff. Sinbad's the killer. There's also a B-plot about coffee cleaning tabs. And Waco. Right as the trucks are coming in.

With the ATF guys? Yeah. Janet Reno's just popping out the sunroof. If you look closely, Janet Reno's also looking for a Turbo Man doll in the store frenzy scene. Yeah. Okay. She's also looking for a Turbo Man doll in the store frenzy scene. Yeah. Okay.

She's actually who they modeled Turbo Man after. That's true. Yeah. Okay. Don't give it all away. What a great riff this has been. Yeah. Seriously.

Someone's already working on the script. Just take a moment. Appreciate that. It feels good to stretch the legs again and just banter about nothing important at all. We're just blue sky in this screenplay idea, man. Blue skies. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. to get everything you want whenever you want it has made people like see the matrix of like the version of consumer culture capitalism and consumerism that we live in they're like oh

yeah i guess i'm okay with just the stuff that i have for a couple weeks yeah i had to kill a boar the other day right right there's been a lot of articles about how like a lot of especially small businesses have had to like ideate around certain things they used to get to still keep like their businesses going like whether that's like the containers that they put their products in and things like that but yeah i mean i think for a lot of people it's it's a good it's a good organic pumping of the brakes when you go from like i should have everything i need within 15 seconds to being like yeah okay i can i can now think about a purchase and then what way whether or not i need to wait nine months for it or if there's another thing or i'm just in caught in the rat race of buying shit yeah unless it's like obviously

vitally critical you know shit medicine. But other than that, like get it together, get it together. People together, get it together. Asthmatics. Come on. Insanity.

Your venal in is taking too long to get. Get it right or pay the price. Anybody watch that show? Oh yeah. So your shorts, the best. When we think about you, it makes me want to fart. Okay. Look, we're really stretching this thing out yeah no one i don't think a lot

of people think about that part like in the intro and when we think about you and it makes me want to fart and he goes say it right or pay the price yeah it's like just sort of like that segue part in the opening hey man that's why we get paid the big bucks you know yeah it feels very old hidden jim cole when there's like a and somebody's talking like hey hey come yeah and you still vamp on that well it's a long way to the bus stop well it's somewhat unrealistic that that camp counselor knows how to play the piano, to be honest. Wow. Okay. Doesn't he seem like more of like a gym teacher type than a music teacher type? Yeah, but people contain multitudes, man.

Also, I don't think there was another adult on that show. So he just defaulted. Yeah, right. adult on that show so he had to fill them all did yeah right well as your chef piano player and lifeguard mr ernst he owned the ranch oh what okay are you thinking hey dude yeah yeah wait oh wait no wait what are we thinking of oh salute your short you're short i'm completely on aanna is what it's... Think Onawanna, drink Onawanna. Snort Onawanna.

Smoke Marijuana. Smoke Marijuana. There it is. Oh, that's fun. 2020 reboot. Budnick still... Budnick? Oh my god. Dude, Budnick's selling fucking wild weed, man. Justin, keep all this stuff.

We got to keep all this. This is fucking gold. Yeah, post-credit sequence. Post-credit sequence. Yeah, Ugg. Kevin Ugg Lee. Kevin Ugg Lee. Dude, Ugg.

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And we're back. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully you stayed for the entire hour-long Camp Wana Wana riff. Mm-hmm.

It's a little short riff. There it is. Took us into the commercial break, but we're back to get down to the brass tacks. Talk about this Trump guy. Yep. Oof. Right? I mean, I mean, commercial break, but we're back to get down to the brass tacks. Talk about this Trump guy.

Yep. I mean, I guess that's it. Remember that Trump guy, right? You know, this clip that came out on Wednesday, went viral because somehow we saw Donald Trump on NPR, and it was like,

they're like, Steve Inskeep, I think starts the interview being like, yeah, man, we've been trying to get you on here since 2015. Um, he's like, yeah, thank you so much.

Uh, let's talk. And this was a very bad interview for Trump basically because he was being asked direct questions about his insistence on peddling election fraud claims. And he was confronted with like direct quotes from other Republicans who were like, we lost fair and square or, you know, election officials being like, yeah, I'm a Republican and I did this audit for the party and we found no anomalies that would, you know, change the results in any fashion, maybe some administrative things, but nothing

that would arise to the level of like fraud or corruption. So essentially the message to him was like, Hey, yeah, I'm going to keep showing you evidence that you lost very fairly. And now you, I guess you can just keep denying it. And that's what the most of the interview was like for about eight minutes until which point it was clear that Trump began really feeling the heat of this interview, because again, you're on NPR. So you're not being interviewed by a sycophant. Like, you know, Steve Inskeep isn't necessarily, you know, putting him to the sword, but he is pretty consistent by just asking, like,

but why are you saying that? But what about this? But what about this? And there's nothing worse for someone who's used to someone accepting your lies than someone being like, yeah, no, but what about this direct thing from another person in reality? And then this is the part where he essentially, he had too much and he sadly bolted from the entire interview. How come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch, but all of a sudden he got 80 million votes. If you forgive me, maybe because the election was about you. If I can just move on to ask, are you telling Republicans in 2022 that they must press your case on the past election in order to get your endorsement? Is that an absolute? They're

going to do whatever they want to do, whatever they have to do, they're going to do. But the ones that are smart, the ones that know, you take a look at, again, you take a look at how Carrie Lake is doing running for governor. She's very big on this issue. She's leading by a lot. People have no idea how big this issue is, and they don't want it to happen again. It shouldn't be allowed to happen, and they don't want it to happen again. And the only way it's not going to happen again is you have to solve the problem of the presidential rigged election of 2020. Mr. President, one more question.

I want to ask about a court hearing yesterday on January 6th. Judge Amit Mehta, he's gone. OK. So, you know, he's still got it. Yeah. I mean, he's still learning how to bolt at the right time, just as like real direct questions are being asked. And yeah, I mean, like, look, it's clear he's just a sad old man who can't stomach the idea that he is bullshit. And every most people know it unless they're like a supporter drone.

And, you know, the thing he kept harping on in terms of like trying to reinforce this idea of the fraud, which is why he starts out being like, tell me why Biden gets 80 million votes. It's like, cause people that 80 million people don't like you or prefer Joe Byron to you. And he kept saying like, I got the most votes for a sitting president. Who else ever got votes? And Steve Inskey was like, yeah, right. I understand you got the most votes, but you still lost. So, you know, getting the most votes as a sitting president isn't an election strategy or gets you to the number of electoral college votes you need. You need to win 50 percent plus one in most states to then add your like whatever. OK, so I'm one of only 36 presidents who have not died in office. So. Right. So I think Joe Biden is cheating. OK, that's what this all boils down to. But, you know, at a minimum, I appreciate the kind

of direct questioning that, you know, Stevens keep was offering just in the sense because most people, Donald Trump will come on mostly because he's going on Fox or very Trump friendly networks. Donald Trump will come on mostly because he's going on Fox or very Trump friendly networks. They ask a question that if it was a real journalist, you wouldn't accept the lie that they told. And they just pivot like, OK, thank you for that lie. We've accepted it. Now, this next talking point will accept as reality. Please go ahead.

But yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't like this isn't getting picked up anywhere, really, that his viewers would be right. No, I mean, they're probably if anything, they're like it was a hit job at npr yeah asking about these congress people who are also republicans who claim the election wasn't stolen i wonder what the play was to even go on npr what was the what was the point of that what did he think he he would get away with? Right. Yeah, I think that's it's interesting. It's it may be clear that, you know, he was having trouble on January 6th. Right.

He wanted to do this whole live thing and no networks would pick it up, basically. And that's why he didn't do it. So he's like, fuck this. I don't know if he just said they'll have me on and I can talk and you know be confrontational because that when the interview starts Trump the only thing he's thinking about is if they're live oh really are we live Steve are we uh and he's like uh no sir this is we're not going live this is pre-taped and he's like okay fine so I don't know when you read his energy at the start of it you're like I did you just want to be on live anything and then they're like I don't know when you read his energy at the start of it you're like did you just want to be on live

anything and then they're like I don't know fucking NPR would probably do it and be like completely blown away because when they first start off the first question's around vaccines and like he's like what advice would you give to Americans who haven't chosen to get vaccinated that's essentially his first question so there's no like hey tell us about this rally you have coming up you know like sort of right PR but yeah I don't know it's it's very interesting to see him on places where you know they aren't maggot out i'm told the the are we live thing was more about he wanted to baba buoy the interview at the end yeah i mean so what one thing that I'm seeing in... There's a CNN article and a Wall Street Journal article.

Hillary 2024, the case for a comeback. It's happening. So that's... Sounds like a murder mystery. The case for the comeback. comeback i mean it would be essentially what what a terrible idea it's yeah i think people are looking at the fact that biden sinks to uh biden's approval is now at like an all-time low it's a 33 i think and they're trying to figure out like who could we run that would be even less popular than biden in this election well i think because all of this strategizing is it has to ignore the

basic fact that all these systems that we exist inside of within the u.s are failing at every turn right so it's not that joe biden's unpopular i mean like yeah he is but he's doing fuck all to actually address like what it like ails the country right very in a very tangible way and they're just trying to act like maybe we need hill like no maybe you need to pay people to stay home maybe you need to relief and we need student debt relief maybe we need health care maybe we need actionable results or you know policies on climate change but yeah yeah it's yeah fuck it bring it bring hillary back because already it sounds like there's a rift between trump and ron desantis later

on wednesday he said some shit he went on oan and was like talking about like you know ron desantis was asked if he was recently like boosted and he's's like, I don't I had the regular thing. I don't feel like I need to really disclose, blah, blah, blah. And then Trump was like, you're gutless. He's like, if you didn't, if you had the booster and I just just say it. Right. So some politicians are gutless. So he's already coming at Ron DeSantis and he's gone after Brian Kemp. It's I don't know, like, you know, what 2024 looks like if you find a Republican who's like, I bet I can take the MAGA throne from Trump and see if I can go head to head because I'm feeling myself. Yeah. As long as he's still alive, they'll fail. Like, I mean, he's he's the

entire party at this point. Nobody's going to succeed at doing that. I don't love to see Hillary versus Nugent. Hillary versus Nugent? Yeah. I mean, what if it was Clinton Nugent on a ticket? Just to really confuse people. Be like, fuck, man, I think Ted will balance her out. I think that's a, hmm, I'm going to have to think about that one. The interview, the NPR interview did remind me how much he is exactly like all all the impressions just gave me a new appreciation

for like oh this could be that guy from snl who does a trump impression like that he is an actual cartoon of himself that's truly just hits all the hits all the notes it's so stream of consciousness sometimes i'm like is he a groundling? Like he's Dell close. It's really, he is what we thought he was. Yeah. And yeah, we call that Trump jazz.

You know what I mean? Yeah. He just goes off, off prompter and he's like, watch this solo. I guess there was a part of me that was like a little worried. He was like in a comeback with like a tighter, like a honed, like messaging and presentation.

And, you know, was going to actually start reading those Hitler speech books that were that he kept by his bedside for four years was the only book in his bedroom. Not a red flag at all. But it seems like he's still just he's got one speed and it works well for him. Yeah, because I mean, some of his answers too. One question Steve Inskeep asked was like, why is it that you think the vast majority of your allies in the U.S. Senate are not standing behind you? Mitch McConnell.

Because Mitch McConnell's a loser. That's literally his answer. It could have been a fucking soundboard. Like, you big stupid dummy head. Yeah. Who is your daddy and what does he do? Yeah. All right.

Let's talk about Prince Andrew real quick. A Manhattan judge has announced that, or has refused to dismiss a case against him from Virginia Gufri. against him from Virginia Gufri. We already saw how he held up in a carefully choreographed interview where he was able to bring in notes and prepare and knew the questions heading

in because there was only one real question that was going to be asked. In that case... Not even like underhanders. Scarves. Silk scarves being thrown. thrown drifting down before to just be crushed out of the park and still was like yeah he stammered through an excuse about uh sweat like his inability to sweat while he appeared to be sweating and yeah i, he is probably like the person who has encountered the least like actual human interactions in the history or one of the probably top five like living humans who like from the age zero on to this point has never encountered somebody who was like telling him the truth.

You know, like they were always just telling him what they thought he wanted to hear right like it could he could be a psychological experiment and the idea of that being put on trial show yeah like literally like yeah yeah basically the truman show the fact that that then he would be put on trial and like asked questions that have the weight of law is, I think a lot of people are rooting for it. Right. And obviously like if you want justice, this is a child who he sexually assaulted.

So yeah, it's you'll, that'll be an interesting case to see how that all plays out. But yeah, like to your point, like, yeah, it's like being a child star or something where it's like yeah man you're kind of gonna you're gonna live in a bizarre reality

as being part of the monarchy like you're not gonna ever people even like yo andrew man you full of shit man why don't you pipe down really quick man educate yourself adults are talking here it'll be like yes your highness like i can't imagine you're built to then face criminal charges and you know somehow find yourself in an environment where you have to stand to account for your actions. Wasn't there something about like he didn't think he could get he should be on trial because his transgressions were included in a deal with Epstein? That's right. Yeah. Where he was like where that was going down and he

was like hey hey hey put me in there too yeah so that was that was that pretty good admission of guilt i think it's just being like hey i did it but it was already handled i thought right wait what that so that was the case where epstein like pled guilty, but like did a deal with somebody who I think worked in both Obama and Trump administrations to basically do a deal that was like, OK, I'll do 10 months. Alexander Acosta. Community service. Yeah, Alexander Acosta. I'll do 10 months community service and like stay at this nice resort that's supposedly a prison but you can't be mean to anybody

who I know was essentially the deal yeah so and I guess the judge is like that doesn't seem to hold up anymore I'm sorry what for him mechanically how do you do that legally I'm just understanding you can't be mean

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I thought it was going places. Yeah. What was it? Did it have any like anything cool about it? Was it a drawing of any type? It's a Pepe the Frog, but with Jar Jar's body. Exactly. I don't think I would know that i don't think i'd be able to tell the difference oh you would you just a height thing really yeah once you see a gungan

body you can't unsee it i'll tell you that but yeah i mean i doweled but was just i don't know what the fuck i'm doing and also i i don't have the bandwidth to get super versed in like what a good NFT could be. But you're also our expert on like private restaurants and like eating clubs, dining clubs. Dining clubs. So you're like the Soho house would be cool if it was more exclusive. I think you always say. More crypto based. Yeah.

Imagine a crypto based Soho house. Can you imagine a place you'd want to be more elbow to elbow with like-minded fucking lizard people? I don't know what the fuck. Doing a lot of interlacing your fingers from both hands while biting your bottom lip. Synergy. Synergy. And then saying the word synergy and walking out of the room. Yeah. Like that's kind of your beat.

Hey, man, take my pen. It's a Mont Blanc. You know, you can have it. And then you walk like, wow, thanks, tech guy. But yes, NFT restaurant is a thing. And again, just for y'all, what kind of images are conjured in your heads when you hear NFT restaurant? I'm curious. I'm just hearing that, what that does to your mind.

Themed. NFT themed. Oh, like a planet Hollywood? wood yeah but like pepe with jar jar's body on the walls and like okay stop trying to make your pepe jar jar nft happen do you want uh do you want beef or non-fungible tofu like that sort of all the all the items all the items are right and beef it's like beef with a crypto, bro. Yo, you want beef, homie? We're talking about decentralized movement.

It's fucking falling off the tracks. What the fuck are you talking about? It's a Planet Hollywood with just... But for the NFT moment, the year that NFT set. I just see a bunch of Elon Musk wannabes up in there. I bet every single person thinks Elon is the shit in an NFT restaurant. Maybe they make like a burger. Okay.

But then they never make that burger again for anyone else. I mean, that is. So you're like, can I have a burger? Like, nah, man, did that three weeks ago for a guy. So pick something else, man. have a burger? Like, nah, man, did that three weeks ago for a guy. So pick something else, man. Burger with ketchup? Fuck no. There's like nothing. You're like, well, what dishes have not been made? It's like, you got to do your research before you come in here, man. I got a lot of tables. I got to go.

Nothing. This last guy just took fruitcake. cake yeah no when you ask me what an nft restaurant makes me think of it my true answer is it makes my brain shut down and like go into a fetal possession position or possession but you're being possessed by a fetus yeah i got busted for fetal possession holding it for a friend it was a dark time yeah i like a more religious possession uh demonic possession by uh a demon fetus but all that to say is this place is real and i picture like so much like nouveau riche bullshit like where like the rob report is their bible like those kinds of people for people to know the rob report it's like the rich people like hottest shit you can buy magazine basically so if you ever need to be like these are the things poor people could never For people to know the Rob Report, it's like the rich people, like hottest shit you can buy magazine, basically.

So if you ever need to be like, these are the things poor people could never afford. Welcome to the Rob Report. Like SkyMall? Come on. Come on, man. It's not that fancy. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's just in between SkyMall and the hummocker schlemer catalog.

But this place is, you say, what the fuck is NFT restaurant? Well, it's something that is actually coming to New York City in the first half of next year. And it's called the Fly Fish Club. See, it already sounds

fucking horrible. And it's like Soho House, but the way you get a membership is by purchasing an NFT. That is your membership. That's how you enter. So you say like, what the, wait, what?

Well, okay, fine. You purchased NFT, but what's the club actually like? This is from this article on Grub Street from the New York, I think New York Magazine, saying that it's going to have, quote, a cocktail lounge, an upscale seafood restaurant, an omakase room reserved for top tier members only, and outdoor space spanning more than 10 000 square feet quote

in an iconic new york city location and the article goes on to say although that exact location has not yet been announced okay iconic a pillar center right so what does it take to get in you buy one of these nfts last friday they dropped 1150 tokens that you could buy as your membership and they're gone like they were pretty much bought up pretty quickly the standard membership which gets you like into the lounge and the seafood restaurant was going for like two and a half ethereum so about like almost eight thousand dollars and if you want the omakase you want the fucking the baller version you had to pay close to fourteen thousand dollars for one of those tokens. And the way they're also presenting it to people who buy the tokens is like,

it's a passive income opportunity, man, because you'll be able to lease your membership to some other hype beast who wants to get up in there. And now you can make a little scratch because they're using your, like they're like subleasing your NFT to get access to this restaurant. Yeah. This is a take, I can admit. And that's a bit much. A membership to a restaurant's not great.

But if there's any use for an NFT, a membership card is sort of a not bad like way like oh i get it like a unique a unique picture that can only be authenticated by the the owner and you use that to get into things or like your gym membership or i don't know plane tickets or something i could see that working instead of you know just betting on them that they'll go up in price but as an actual like useful thing to confirm one's identity not bad this is well this is your identity will be confirmed as baller uh because already if you want one of these membership tokens you have to go to the secondary market where they're now over eleven thousand dollars for the regular membership and so i guess like you could ride the weight like

ethereum market and like buy the dip and maybe get like a membership on the cheap. But it seems like this whole model is like just bait for like the thirstiest of the thirsty and the clout chasing champions of our world. I think this is this reminds me of that story about Ashley Madison, where it's like a dating website where you can cheat, but then like behind the scenes, they're like, yeah, it's 98 percent dudes talking to each other and talking to bots. I feel like they're going to have this out there. It's going to be very popular until it's actually a real thing. And then they're going to realize that it's all like wealthy tech dudes. Right. And that's going to be it.

Because I think, yeah, there's like a level to it that I can already see like the Soho house, right? It's like, I mean, like you have to be vetted to get up in here. You know, like we don't just fucking let anybody. Whereas this, I think the real bougie people will thumb their nose at the thing. It's like, okay, so you paid a lot in Ethereum to get into this like mediocre restaurant. Please get out of my way. But yeah, it's, I think we're all just seeing all these different ways that I'm sure for the restaurant too. That's a way to raise a round of funding by being like,

here's an NFT you got to buy for our restaurant. That's coming out like an over a year from now. And I'm sure they're taking those funds, trying to figure out how they keep fucking put that towards the restaurant. I don't know. It's just a very confusing business model and i don't like membership restaurants because the food usually isn't that great yeah all i'm saying is i would buy an nft to get into magic castle instead of having to ask a nerdy friend right right that's a good that's a good example also like nfts as just like social security cards like that just things like that where it's like you want a you

need a card or like something to identify with that is like singular as opposed to this shitty restaurant that is going to be only people who are really into nfts but yeah it's not just that jack you're missing the point it's gonna have a lounge a cocktail bar omakase you know omakase that's like the most bothered way to eat sushi which is like i love how that word has completely taken over like restaurant culture because now like everywhere's like this is like an omakase like empanada restaurant wait what does omakase mean is that where you eat it off the body omakase like uh like it means like i'm deferring to you like so when you eat at a sushi restaurant

it's omakase that means that like you're saying to the sushi chef i'm surrendering to your taste please take me on this journey as i trust you the person who's the master chef yeah like those restaurants like those restaurants where they insult you to your face and you order a milkshake and they they give you coffee and you're like right what and they're like shut up what you guys know those restaurants yeah isn't there like one that's like a hot dog place i feel like back on the food channel there's like some place in like chicago or something where like that you just knew like when you went in there the people talk straight shit to you when you order yeah but that was kind of like the that's the thing about it yeah right there's a

there's a place in la called sushi park where they just feed you until you say done. They just feed you sushi and it's really good and really expensive, but it's worth a try. It does sound like it. The Wiener Circle, that's what it's called. The Wiener Circle? Yeah, in Chicago. Yeah, it was in Chicago. Oh, like Wiener Circle.

Yeah, exactly. I thought it was a weird euphemism for something else. Yeah. It's known for its Maxwell Street Polish, blah, blah, blah, and the mutual verbal abuse between the employees and the customers during the late weekend hours. So like, yeah, when you go late at night, think the fuck you want. When you guys. You could cut us back, though. Yeah, yeah.

But I think the mouths on the people that work there are way spicy. When you guys go have a circle jerk about NFTs or a wiener circle, if you will. But do people know what Soho House is? Who aren't from LA? That's our coastal bias. It's a very pretentious membership club. Jack, didn't you work at a Soho House? I was a pool boy.

My first job out of college, I was a pool boy at a soho house because my sister's roommate worked the front desk at soho house and she got me an in yeah and yeah so and the my recollection of the like membership process was that it was like 99 of the applications were like stockbrokers and people, businessmen who they would turn down because the whole point was that, no, we're protecting you from those type of people who... We want creatives. Right, who got rich just by going to Wharton or whatever.

Anyways, but this sounds like the opposite of that. Fuck Wharton. Fuck you losers. I don't know, but seriously. As you rub their feet at the pool. Pool boy. What was that about? Wharton?

Jeffrey? My name's Jack. Whatever. Yeah. Jackery. All right. And finally, you know, I think we've all been saying, when will the Oscars go back to having a host? We love the days of Billy Crystal.

We love the days of Ellen. We love the days of Chris Rock. Did he ever do an Academy Award? Yeah, he did one Academy Awards. And by making a joke about Jude Law, like Sean Penn was like, I'll tell you who Jude Law is. He's the finest damn actor I've ever fucking seen. Tell you who El Chapo is. The greatest philanthropist that our world has ever seen.

But yeah, so they've taken a break from having a host recently. I mean, my favorite Oscars host ever. I think everybody agrees it's James Franco. So they've taken a break just to give Franco some time to rest his tootsies. But they haven't had a host since 2018, but ratings have been going down and down. And so one storyline that people are bringing up is you've got to nominate the Spider-Man movie for Best Picture. And then just get people to tune in for that so that they're then like mad when it doesn't win or something i don't know the strategy

really but they're instead planning on i guess asking tom holland to host the academy awards oh okay because it's definitely that the no host thing is causing a dip in ratings, not because Green Book won. Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. Or just in general. Definitely the host situation, not Crash. Yeah.

The selection of films that we've proclaimed are the best picture ever according to this very narrow group yeah i don't yeah it seems in general like people don't have the same appetite for award shows unless it's like a grammys or something because that's just like a big ask like it's a concert essentially with awards interspersed yeah but so they did do a poll to see who people wanted tiffany haddish is number one with 18 the rock number 17 or number two with 17 tina fam amy puller have they not done the oscars they've only done the golden globes i think so well that would make sense that feels like it would make sense not not if they're like trying to fun up and young up the demographic but i mean they're yeah definitely at least would make it fun to watch queen latifah paul rudd lin-manuel miranda well here's what i like about this list

because it's paul rudd and then no one and then lin-manuel miranda gets half of what no one yeah he's got four percent and no one has eight percent that can't feel good anyone anyone beneath the no one standings on that list is feeling pretty bad right now sorry oprah yeah jamie foxx sorry man i don't honestly but good for you for even getting on that list like there were enough people checking for you they're like you know jamie foxx yeah that's i mean yeah that's that that is interesting that's an interesting choice i'm wondering like where they this feels like a poll of agents would have come up with this list like yeah right it feels like just people who

have careers oh the top three all represented by uta okay interesting but yeah so they asked tom holland tom holland was then interviewed and said like maybe sometime in the future but i'm too busy right now and then called the reporter back and said actually i'd do it if they asked me so apparently there's something in the works there and it's probably going to be him but yeah it's completely the like they gave it to green book and crash and like fucking bad movies for so long so free yeah i mean remember when people thought shakespeare in love was the best movie that came out that year i mean it yeah what it beat saving private ryan yeah it's not the private and like spielberg won best director and and that's not usually like the momentum of the oscars like oh man spielberg

got best director for private ryan you know best picture is a fucking rap baby and they're like shakespeare in love yeah um but yeah when we were all caught up in chicago fever that we were too blind to see yeah remember the best movie around oh goodness goodness those are all miramax movies by the way and like they they proudly were like yeah we'll get you we'll get you i will intimidate my way into your movie being best picture whether it's good or not right that seemed to be but so this first of all if you want to like get a understanding of like just the difficulty of making a watchable oscars like just go back to any oscar telecast like before the 90s or like before you started watching them they've been bad forever they're terrible it's like watching a like award show that like your company puts on

for like employees like it's just it sucks like yeah they one time they tried to like get the youngins in 1963 by having frank sinatra host and he opened the ceremony with a monologue about how the mona lisa like the painting would be received by modern hollywood producers and i got a quote here and i think you're gonna love it you know leonardo baby i like it i really like it so it's pretty good stuff like that i think my favorite comedy well first number one with a bullet is the stand-up challenges on rupaul's drag race those are always top tier and then right below it is teleprompter jokes yeah and it's a nice top two botching the delivery of a prompter joke like oh my god like he said the punch line out of okay sure yeah i'm not

used to it paul hogan aka crocodile dundee once hosted the oscars in the 80s and did that go well it was actually an oscar yeah yeah exactly he co-hosted with chevy chase and goldie hawn and because they're all uh or at least paul hogan and chevy chase are like famously massive egos uh where they were never on on stage at the same time oh really hogue they were both like i ain't sharing the stage yeah fuck that guy or yeah is chevy chase just paul hogan with oh that's on right how come you never seen him in the same place at the same time what double dipping on that check the thing at the end of the day i think with all these award shows is you know across the board award shows are just declining like in terms of viewership

and it's it's like i think it's again if they're too insular no one watches it and feels that they have any any way to affect what they're seeing so it's just you i're too insular no one watches it and feels that they have any any way to affect what they're seeing so it's just you i think for a lot of people are starting to realize like i don't know it's a it's a way for all these people in this room to clap at each other like i don't know like these aren't my picks so i'm not as interested and i think as that glamour fades they like like i think you brought this up jack like a while ago i was like is there like a fan vote or something like do you democratize an award within the oscars where people can you know participate and i get that like it's about everybody in the motion picture association but i bet you that the mpaa is looking at me like we this is how we generate revenue like yeah we need

to have a better award show and if we have to fucking change things then maybe we will but i think there's there's that aspect of watching it where it's just like frustrating and like you just you just don't care you know what i mean i think they should make the voting public i don't i don't think fans should get to vote because then it would just be fucking disney but or something that actually speaks to people as if it's like and you know i think your phrase is like the most popular movie of the year or something like that like as an award where it's like and you know i think you were phrased as like the most popular movie of the year or something like that like as an award where it's clear where you can be like okay like we're not having to look at it through the lens of like what is cinema right and you mean like oh yeah best film versus best movie uh right right what i was like differentiating between like the the two right basically i think definitely the like the role of celebrity

has shifted or at least our opinion on celebrity where you know influencers people people who dress like us or they're my age like they look they're they're more praised than some guy in a tux and not only that like some guy in a tux who goes not only that, like some guy in a tux who goes up on stage and talks about that we need to get the hunger situation sorted out. And it's like,

you're a millionaire. I think that's probably, that just doesn't look good. A bunch of people in tuxes and dresses being like, yeah. Film has the ability to touch all lives and save the world steven yes all lives

matter and then like some canned joke that like they intentionally just like fucking drop to just like yeah let people know they're better than the material is just like fuck man right yeah yeah i don't know but i think that's i don't know another way that i would be interested i guess yeah if the voting were transparent but then it's like what we see who how each person voted well yeah because then like people would be like okay this dipshit voted for green right book like we get to like then have our say yeah yeah exactly right yeah but then yeah i think the awards need to be a little bit better like best stunt best scene best like like things that you can like actually enjoy while you're watching it yeah but them too yeah like uh but less stupid than that no but those categories

were like best fight you know what i mean yeah yeah like action scene and you work i remember being like holy shit okay yeah yeah like that done if that award show were created by like people who actually work and like love movies like i would be interested in seeing that as opposed to being made by mtv got it i would i would even like because i think we voted on things before where we're going through it even like election stuff when it gets down to like city council person and we're like i i don't know i'll pick the name i like the best right it'd be cool if like every category. So like if they had a best stunt, only stunt men vote on that. Only the field of stunt people vote on that. Best sound editing, you get the sound editing guild to vote on that.

And then instead of like, yeah. And then instead of having like some central like, know a word show writer like being like sound editing is the art of and like doing like a broad description of what sound editing is you then like have a sound editor explain like what was so like amazing about that like do really like put some thought into presenting that art form like or like what is so fucking cool about this stunt in a way that like that's it seems like there are pretty straightforward ways you could like make it better and make it about movies without it just coming off like the fucking nicole kidman amc commercial where she's like the magic of movies and has clearly never been to a movie theater. She's watching enchanted.

Yeah. Yeah. But I guess, yeah. Could you imagine they're like, yes, we should give the unions more influence on how these awards are given out is sort of what that boils down to.

Right. It's like, yeah, keep it specialized. But I think it would make more sense because you feel like rather than some, like someone's grandpa who used to be an editor in the 70s who still has a vote. Like, yeah, they're going to their taste is all over the place. Like, let's I like this idea.

Specialized votes. But then nobody watches. I guess, you know, I guess people watch the SAG Awards or the DGA Awards. And they do feel I mean, they they broadcast them. So clearly there's enough there's enough revenue to justify the continued broadcast of it i gotta start watching those awards i think that's the thing i've learned i need to watch more award shows yes exactly the lesson to today's lesson i don't know i even in that respect i'm in the WGA for Jingle All Bonnet.

You don't want my opinion about movies. Steven, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? You can follow me on Instagram, Twitter. Instagram, Twitter, they just merged. It's Wilbur with an E. Wilbur with an E spelled Wilbur with an E.

Spelled Wilbur with an E. And Wilbur is spelled with an E. Somebody has made that mistake before, spelled my name W-I-L-B-U-R, and then put my Twitter name right next to it. That's Wilbur with an E. People do that all the time, where they'll somehow spell my handle correctly and then misspell my last name like right next.

I'm like, how did you get the handle right? And then not then. OK. You know what? We're all going through something. I mean, the lesson I learned from that is you guys are spelling your names wrong. And you should listen to the people. Thank you.

People are speaking to you and you're not listening. Joe Biden. should listen to the people thank you right you're just people are speaking to you and you're not listening joe biden is there a tweet or some of the work of social media that you've been enjoying two things i guess there's a tweet from a couple days ago by this um or should anna said free palestine uh whatever that means but uh yellowstone really posits what if cattle ranchers were annoying as hell? I think that's pretty funny. And then a t-shirt popped up in my algorithm that said, yeah, I'm into IBS, irritable bowel syndrome. And that made me cry laughing.

Lean right into it. That was pretty good. shout out to super producer on a hose name yeah who's that no clue uh miles where do people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray also the 90 day uh reality podcast for 20 day fiance or sophia and alex sophia alexander and i just talked that reality shit i like three tweets today first one is from ron amaya at juan underscore amaya tweeted this month i'm doing something called january where i try to make it through every day of january yes that feels about good yeah that's a good goal to have uh another one sounded like mitch hedberg yeah thank you i'm

trying to do this thing called January, where I will, the next one is from at moderate, moderately mused, tweeted, a 25 year old will look you dead in the eye and ask if you've heard of Led Zeppelin. I feel that shit all the time as it relates to rap and other music.

And last one, SLVPPY tweeted, I hope my kids are good at math because I won't be no help after third grade. And I felt that. I'm like, yo, man, division, fucking multiplication. Like, don't put these fractions. Don't put fucking coast.

Don't put any of that other shit in front of me. Yeah. That's why calculators exist. Is Common Core still around? They doing that still? Common Core? Yeah. The Common Core math or did they give up on that what's that

oh it's like a it was like a trendy way of doing math that was like i don't even thinking like kumon like kumon math the japanese thing or they called it kumon math in the u.s oh i called it come on because I thought they were like, come on, learn this stuff. Come on, you don't like numbers? No, it's come on. Shout out in the comments if you know what come on math was. Jack's just

processing that one. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Michael Cruz Kane tweeted, there's nothing I won't do to make sure the waiter likes me. I will sell out everyone at the table. I'm so sorry about them. Even if they're being totally normal, nothing matters more to me. I would give it all away.

Oh, man. Yeah. And then Sandy Danto tweeted, oh, you didn't have any taste before COVID either, honey. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes

and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy tonight? I mean, we're close to the weekend, close to maybe feeling a little more relaxed despite the tense, tense time we're in. So check out this remix of Lovely Day by Bill Withers,

but it's like a very Bossa Nova, like Brazilian version. So it's the Rio studio version of Lovely Day by Bill Withers. And I don't know, it justers. And I don't know. It just feels like, I don't know, look at a screensaver of a beach or something and listen to this and you'll probably feel good for about five seconds. All right.

I need that. I need that. Take two of those and call miles in the morning. Exactly. All right. Well, the daily is a production of my heart radio for more podcasts. My heart radio,

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