The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Can’t Toss Coin Good, Orwell So Happy Right Now 12.16.25

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

In episode 1980, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and desert star tour guide, Caitlin Gill, to discuss… Trump Can’t Throw Coin Good, MAGA Base Also Starting To Cool On Economy, All Those Pictures, Donald Trump Admits That His Son Won’t Care When He Dies, George Orwell’s Animal Farm Gets The Minions Treatment and more! Trump Can’t Throw Coin Good Trump: “You’re gonna see results in 6 months to a year” What we know about the Epstein photos released by Democrats Trump, 79, Admits His Own Son Wouldn’t Want to Attend His Memorial Trump gets distracted by a woman in the crowd he says looks like Ivanka and has her turn for the cameras Sweaty Trump Rambles About Snakes and Thirsts Over Ivanka Lookalike George Orwell’s Animal Farm Gets The Minions Treatment New Animal Farm animated comedy is getting roasted already How the CIA Used ‘Animal Farm’ As Cold War Propaganda Andy Serkis’ ‘Animal Farm’ Animation Acquired by Angel, First Trailer Unveiled The trailer for Andy Serkis' Animal Farm won't help with your book report Animal Farm film blames capitalism... and has a happy ending George Orwell: Why I Write LISTEN: Tea For Two by Oscar Peterson TrioSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Manna, manna, manna, umiliani. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause.

Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy. everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I said, it was y'all 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law until we came together to take him down.

I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. I got you, I got you, I got you. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon. or your nearest total wines or Bevmo.

This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentleman's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas

toys playlist that the whole. whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 419, episode two of Dernaley's Ageist! It's a production of IHeart Radio as a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new weekly history version of the show dropping each Monday morning where we do a deep dive into the history of a different icon.

We've done Miss Piggy with Jamie Loftus, Arnold Schwarzenegger, with John Gaverson. Yesterday we covered the most famous person on the planet, Santa Claus? Santa Claus! With Blake Waxler, look for the episodes on Monday with icon in the title. It is Tuesday, December 16th, 20th. 25. Yeah. Oh, man. We know what that is. Welcome to the National Day. Here are your national days. Totally paid for by interest groups who wanted access to this calendar. Do you think there's anyone who visits that website as much as you? I hope there. It would depress me if that if there were. I think single-handedly the people who run this like, man, they are loved. There's just one

person in L.A. who's a loving it. Five days a week they're on it. Sometimes it's got nothing to live for. This guy's a piece of shit, man. We just put some weird stuff in there that's made up. It's actually National Chocolate Covered Anything Day. So look, if you like it covered in chocolate, it's your day. This one is interesting. It's Barbie and Barney Backlash Day. This is an official

day, nine days out from Christmas. And it says, Barbie and Barney Blacklash Day allows parents to take a vacation from all the repetitive sing-alongs and storytelling. By backlashing? By losing control of your emotions around your children.

The day permits parents, to turn off the annoying cartoons and songs and scream at them. Parents may insist on a different book to read at bedtime. Put away the noisy toys, if you dare. That's so fun. What child? What child development? Was that? Nah, no, no, no.

Treat them like pets. And you rub their nose in it. That's how they learn. That's my day. This is my day to tell you how much I fucking hate Barney. No, it's Barney and Barbie Backlash. This stuff is bullshit. You throw it out the window.

And being mad at Barney is the coolest take that you can have. Yeah, good work. Anybody who celebrates, I don't know. I'm not going to yuck your helm, but come on. Find a new angle. It's a normal caller. Find a new angle. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, you're so cringe.

That's what the older girls say about you. You're so cringe. That one, courtesy a snarfeel on the Discord, in reference to an older kid explaining what cringe means to my nine-year-old that I overheard. And how was it? That's a little cringe. And they were like, wait, what? What does that mean?

They're like, oh, it's like a thing that older girls say about you if they think what you're doing isn't cool. I love that just like that pure child distillation. It's thing girls say when they not like you. Yeah. Oh, cringe. Yes, indeed. Anyways.

Shout out to Snarfula on the Discord. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host. Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancashim, the coughing caballero, because I'm back from illness, and just lightly coughing now. And rising out of a coffin. Yes, exactly. Here I am.

And I've come to drink your blood. We're thrilled to have you here, Miles. And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian, comedy writer, actor, fashion icon. You can go gaze at the stars with them in the desert. It's one of our all-time favorite TDZ guests is Caitlin Gail! Skatlin! Where are you been, Skatlin?

Genuinely excited to cover Barbie and chocolate and devour it today. I think that's... Why, it's cover anything, anything covered in chocolate. No, this is... Anything. Don't mix the days. I think they've opened doors they did not anticipate. Perhaps with the broad scale.

Yeah. I think it's, yeah, it would be fun if they're like, hey, go wild. Like, even put non-foods. stuff. Dipping in chocolate. Have it go. Let's just have it. Let's just have fun. You know what I'm saying? Wink. Anything. Everything is so

like soap, like everything is so like it's boring. They're like, try these. Like bananas? Wait, what? Cookies. It says fucking cookies. What the fuck? Wait, when you said anything, you really meant anything. Okay, sorry.

Bananas and cookies? Two things that are famous. We're international. Biscotti. Ever seen Biscotti dipped in chocolate? I never have, but it is today. What is it, 1992? Nuget? I don't know, man.

We're going crazy over here. Nuget, uh, cherries, ice cream Sunday? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do I know they already did it to bacon? Oh, the internet. And bacon culture all coming together. The most, I think the most out there thing on this list is Ritz Crackers.

Honestly, I'm on board. Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's fine. I'm not saying I would. couldn't eat all these things. I'm just saying. But everything else is things that are normally or you've seen like covered in or with chocolate marshmallows or fudge. Fudge. Yeah.

Think about that, dude. Cover fudge and chocolate. What about chocolate fudge? What about chocolate fudge covered in? You'd never had those tastes before. What the fuck is this? That's the level of imagination you're working with with the cover anything in chocolate day people. Yeah.

You can do fucking anything. Fruit. Fruit, chocolate, chocolate, cookies. What else? Marshmallow. Literally anything your heart desires. Caitlin, we're thrilled to have you back,

joining us from the desert. Thank you gentlemen. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. One thing that happened over the weekend is Donald Trump tried to toss a coin and did so like an alien. No, I aced it. They said they've never seen someone. I've never seen a coin like that.

So good. No, I think you're right, sir. Many people did say I've never seen a coin tossed like that before. Like almost as if he thought the point was to not have it turn over in the air. Like he was tossing a pizza, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't it feel like how he would toss a coin, though? Yeah, right.

Call it first, and then he makes his call and then desperately tries to make the coin just levitate and land again without altering. Just control all out. comes so that they benefit him. His hand shape was sort of like the, um, the, is this a pigeon meme? Or it's like, it's like from the anime.

You know what I mean? And the guy's like, is this pig, is this butterfly? He's like, is this coin toss? Yeah. Uh,

so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about his relatively, uh, bad approval rating. Uh, we'll talk about all those pictures that dropped of just everybody. People were just like, let me get,

let me get, let me snap a few with, with Jeffrey Eps. here real quick. Let's get some group picks, guys. Like, this is, before digital. This was, like, back when people were, didn't take that many pictures,

except if you were wealthy and in the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein, in which case you were taking as many pictures as you possibly could. Yeah, I think the pictures were common, but I think it's one of those things, too, were because physical media was sort of like, and that's in a book that probably got lost

in a dumpster somewhere, versus, like, our digital era where everything's like in cold stories all at once. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about his weird Christmas speech. We'll talk about the new animal farm. Animal Farm getting the minions treatment, baby. Oh, thank God.

We'll talk about the history of adapting that book and what it's looking like. This one's going to be. And we'll talk about the Home Alone House, which is being unrenovated to look like the Home Alone House once again. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history

that's revealing about who you are? Well, very typically this week, I searched the term space potatoes. It is a term used to reference objects that are not large enough en masse to become round in space. And I wanted to figure out how formalize this term as because it's sort of a nickname for these objects, as it turns out.

I thought it might have... There are some sort of frivolous terms in astronomy that get stuck pretty hard. and become more official. Space potatoes, more of a dig name for these objects that retain sort of an odd or lumpy shape. But in my search, I learned that the Fisher Cats out of New Hampshire, a, I want to say double A baseball team, did play as the space potatoes for a few games. And I hope that that returns again next year. They did three nights in 2025 as the Space Potatoes.

The logo is sick. the merch sold out super fast. But in trying to learn how formal a name Space Potato was, I learned that it was really only formal for a New Hampshire double-a baseball team for three games this year.

Still a good nickname, though, for objects that are not large enough to round out. The logo is wild because it's like an angry potato either resisting being beamed up from a spaceship or getting set down and it's like got a baseball bat and I'm like, I'm going to fuck all of you

earthlings up right now. Yeah, I'm going to beat every earthling at baseball. It does seem like it's got flame coming off the top of his head. So it does seem like it's coming at us as if it was sent by angry aliens. Right, right. Yeah. I was like, yeah, space potato. I was like, oh, God, in the era of internet lingo, I'm like, who is it? What do we call? Oh, yeah. That really could have gone a lot of directions. Yeah. But it is not a chocolate-covered potato. It is indeed something that is not big enough to get rammed in space. Gravity ramps

out. It was like a thing a boomer would call someone who like asks a weird, trippy question. A bunch of fucking space potatoes over here. Or maybe that astronaut Scott Kelly if there's like anti-Irish sentiment. Are you space potato? What the fuck, man?

So I I didn't, I guess I hadn't really thought about the fact that it's so planets round. Yeah. Good. Because closer. A lot of gravity.

So a lot of mass, a lot of gravity, so everything gets pulled in together. Gravity works from the center out. So as your mass increases, it depends on what you're made of. So there's not a specific tipping point. But depending on what accretes together, what globs together to create you, a blob in space, maybe it's going to become a planet. Maybe you're just an asteroid. I'm not trying to, you know, dismiss the validity of the asteroids.

Just an asteroid? Oh, my God. Come on, Kayla. We don't agree with that. Take listeners, just by the way, I want to distance myself from that day. My words are my own. You're all heavenly bodies. But gravity works from the center, and it's active in all directions equally.

So there's a tipping point in your size, depending on what you're made of, where the force of the gravity that you have becomes stronger than the material you're made of. And when that happens, gravity can change the shape of that material. And the most natural shape to take, if gravity's working from the center equally and all. directions is a sphere. So things tend to get rounded out once they have enough mass because of the effects of gravity. Are there like anomalous small things that end up getting out? Sure. Yeah. If the interior you're made of is a low density or easily malleable, essentially gravity could round you out and you could be tiny. I'm just trying to make sure there's, there's paths for everyone. Also, I said that astronaut Scott Kelly and I was like, wait, did I say

Mark Kelly's name wrong, the senator who's also a NASA guy. I heard Mark Kelly, but it could have because I know what you meant. It's identical twin brother. His identical twin brother is Scott Kelly also the astronaut. Have they admitted that or are they just going around as one person trying to trick everybody? I don't know yet. That's what they should do. Look, now we got to catch him.

Scott and Mark are such forgettable names. Yeah. They're doing a prestige. Yeah. So that, I mean, that goes along with the roundness of the earth. that there's that Neil deGrasse Tyson concept that if you shrunk our planet down to the size of a cue ball, it would actually be smoother and rounder than a cue ball, even with, like, all the mountains and shit.

Like, that's how perfectly round the planet Earth is. We are pretty round. We do have a little footbally bulge, and Neil deGras can, he, he'll talk about this, too, because the way the moon swings around us. One thing about him. Because of the moon's gravity shifting the center of. of our planet back and forth over time as it swings around us. We have a little bulge.

We got a little football, American football. Nudgy. But yeah, if we were that dense, then we would be super, super smooth. Could we have laid you down in your crib differently to not have your head shaped like that as a baby? Maybe. But you know what? I still think you're beautiful.

I still think you're beautiful. Caitlin, what is something you think is underrated? Okay, so this has to do with errands. I have to run later today. Underrated is the chaos of Costco's layout. It's a common complaint. This is body built by Kirkland, everybody. I'm a Costco loyalist.

This is what being 44 years old looks like. Welcome to the Kirkland's signature family. This era is waiting for you. Our darling younger listeners, embrace this version of yourself as it emerges. But there's a common complaint that Costco is madness and it's difficult to find anything. And yes, that is the point. That is the thrill of the hunt. That is the adventure.

The fact that apples are never in the same place twice leads you to buy Comqua. just lean into it. Right. So I genuinely enjoy the active full stroll of Costco. And maybe it's just me giving in to an immovable force, but I, or a movable object, irresistible, you know what I mean. Yeah, I got you. I thoroughly enjoy it.

It's a common complaint. There's so much written about Costco layouts where it's like, it's actually very interesting. It's like, very intentional. People are like, what the fuck is this? And that's exactly it. There's three master layouts to Costco store. It's one of them.

Oh, and you're like, oh, Jesus Christ. I don't know. I'm always just, I'm like, damn, there's so much shit in here's my first slide. It's the physical algorithm. Right. Like, it knows what you're going to browse for, and it knows exactly how you're going to move through the store. And just as you scroll and it creeps in your brain and holds onto it tight and doesn't

release you, allow the planned chaos of Costco to do the same thing. Right, right. Just give in, don't resist. Yeah. Just, you know, accept that there is a pallet of sweet corn, hanging out above the water pick that you didn't know you were going to buy, but your teeth will never feel cleaner. Right.

And then there's, I was just reading too, like, it says, well, for the more popular items, they're laid out towards the back. So it means people, the store encourages shoppers to reverse the entire layout, increasing the likelihood of impulse purchases. I'm like, okay, that's everywhere. Yeah, a loss leader, Costco has like flagpole loss leaders like the $5 rotissory chicken. Yeah. But the cost of buying that chicken is that you have to walk by everything you didn't know

you wanted, but suddenly desperately do. Let's see you stay fucking disciplined as you walk by. I did get in line with a full cart of things that I did not walk in the store to buy but did anyway, and was in line behind a gentleman who had used his scooter to

grab a chicken, which now comes in bags. He hung the bag over his handlebars and just sped right back through the store. There you go. I've never seen someone master, the willpower, the control. Monk-like. I still admire this man and think about him regularly.

And he invaded the minotaur that's roaming around in there too, right? Exactly. In the Costco layout? You have to get two minotars is the thing, and they're packaged together. And he was able to solve the three mysteries as well? I find grocery store layout super interesting because there will be this, like, agreed on wisdom to, like, how it's supposed to go. So, like, humans naturally roam counterclockwise. Like, if you, like, put a bunch of humans in a room, like, they just naturally go in that direction.

And so for a long time, you always put the milk and the produce, like, right to the right when you walked in. And, like, the Kroger family still does that. And everybody used to do that because, like, they were like, that's the direction that humans naturally want to go. Like, why fight it? And so they designed it based around, like, these natural movements of, like, humans as herd animal. And then the Traders Joe and, like, Whole Foods came in and we're like, we're going to do things a little different around here. We're going to make them go the opposite direction to, like, make them, I don't know,

feel like they're having a different shopping experience. And so they went the other direction, although Trader Joe's is pretty, is kind of in line with the Costco method of like, let's just like kind of throw shit everywhere. Have that it. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, there's always a strategy of like you put the milk somewhere that's kind of hard to get to so you have to roam through all the displays so that you like get as many purchase, unplanned purchases as people are making their way through. And I've loved everyone. Just came in.

That's right. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, so frivolous leading to like an honest moral compass point, half billion dollar movies are overrated. I know that we're almost there. Listen, I tried to watch the new Mission Impossible, and it was very difficult to watch. It's a challenging film. Kailen, it's a challenging film, and I'm glad you brought that up. Deeply challenging to sit through.

And it is just my opinion. If you love these, I'm not coming for you. But when I looked up, most expensive films, all of them are torturous to me. It is a long list of, like, the New Jurassic Parks and the Avengers, and they just, they've all slipped up. They've lost something. You've lost something. And having too much is sometimes bad.

So the heartfelt, overrated thing is being super rich sucks. Having enough money is awesome. Right. Again, 44. It finally happened to me. I can drive that Subaru. I do own a home. Is it a manufactured home in 29 palms?

I don't want to talk about it. But I have enough money. And that is beautiful. Being super rich seems horrible and late. You have to make a series, a cascade of awful decisions, one worse than the next, and nobody edits you. So from movies, I led to life, as is so often the case. Too much is a bad thing. You can spend too much money on your movie, and it is awful.

Yeah. You start getting studio notes when you get too rich. You start getting a lot of studio notes coming in. I feel like everyone's note got into Mission Impossible. I feel like every single Post-it that anyone took an idea down on, It's physically manifested into the film. They scrapped nothing. They added in nothing.

I looked it up and broke back Mountain made the same amount of money in cash dollars as cost $14 million to make, made something like close to $170 million. Mission Impossible Costs roughly $400 million to make, made something like $598 million. So is it insane that it made that much money? It's like it had to.

The stakes were so high of what it had to make back. And it did, but you could have made like 28 Brokeback Mountains. Is Brokeback Mountain for everyone? Absolutely not. If you made 28 films with $14 million, would there be one that everybody enjoys? That is actually good, probably. Right, right, yeah.

Just in trying to please everyone, they please me, not at all. Yeah. So if you enjoy these films, I'm really happy for you. Keep on enjoying them. I don't have to be right about this, but I do feel like the more expensive the movie is the more likely I am to drift away and start

IMDBing and Wikipedia during it. It's, I think that's spot on though because, like, A, also, I don't know anyone who like earnestly rides for the Mission Impossible franchise. Like, I don't know if you're like, I watch them all out of habit or like me. I'm like, if I'm on an airplane, sure. Sure. Exactly. And the last

three or actually four Mission Impossible films have only been seen on a plane for me. Because I'm like, I can't, I'm not going to the theater to see this anymore. But I think who was making this point about those movies. I might have been on the Hollywood Handbook podcast, but they were saying that like they can't remember which of the movies they've seen.

Yeah, I think it was the Hollywood Hamble Guys. I'm like, that's my problem with Mission Impossible. All the movies are indistinguishable from one another. I don't remember which one is which. Or it's some weird detail. I'm like, where's the one with Carrie Russell's weird eye? Okay, yeah, I remember that one. There's the one where Sawyer from Lost gets off in the first scene.

I remember that one. Then there's a one with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's too good for this. That's also the third one with Carrie Russell's. eye. Oh my God. Yeah, you've only got one. I think you've only seen one of one, but you just don't realize it. There's the JJ Abrams mystery box one. There's the one where Tom Cruise runs a lot. He's on that motorcycle in that one. Yeah. He's all the same movie. He's underwater for 40 minutes. He's in a plane for 40 minutes. He just like watching a man who desperately wants to die while making a movie is becoming difficult. Yeah. And I think the other part,

is because like in the 90s saying something like they spent a hundred million dollars making this everyone was like holy shit wow we got to see this james cameron built a titanic in mexico yeah we're gonna go fucking watch like yeah i think i'm gonna go see that one but i think after i think we hit the peak after the first avatar film and that was the last time you could be like guys this cost so much fucking money you have to see it and then they kept shutting more and they kept making avatars. Yeah, exactly. You didn't need to do that.

You don't have to do that. I just feel like it's like being super rich or like having enough money. Having enough money lets you breathe free and clear. We all know that, like, that's what you're striving for. You don't want to be super rich. You don't want to be the Palantir guy cooked out in the middle of like a Wall Street Journal interview. Like, you want to actually just be able to breathe and enjoy.

Just enough versus excess is basically what I'm saying. And this was made manifest by the new Mission Impossible for me. I can't wait to see it. What a, you're going to have so much fun. Make sure you watch all the other Mission Impossible's first or it doesn't make sense because. It sucks. It fucking sucks. I watched it recently on a plane.

I was like, what the fuck? Do Variety says top 10 movie of the year. It's a top 10th movie of the year. Variety was also like. Oh, it's the number 10 best grossing. It costs 400 million dollars to make. and it's number 10 on the top grossing list of this year. Right.

Ah, Jesus. Okay, I'm done you screaming like an old woman, but I do appreciate you allowing me to share this point of view. No, we agree. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the dang economy.

We'll be right back. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fail and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through you're y'all 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of?

This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence.

This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galuski, I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, Untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.

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Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us. us the game, as they call it.

When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio Act. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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And we're back. And a rare moment where the president has put outside of his comfort zone asked to do something that like he wouldn't normally do and just has to like kind of improvise on the spot. and that is tossing a coin. Doing the coin toss for the Army Navy football game. And my God, I just, again, this was a very odd coin flip. We'll play the audio from it, and we'll watch it for a second.

But, like, just know, look it up because I don't even know how to describe what it is. It's like whimsical, robotic, and mindless all at the same time. Mr. President, what did you do the honor? He's got it in his hand. He says, oh, look at this like a magic trick. Flat. He just, did it get one of the players? Okay, so that was, I don't know if that was a flip more so as like letting a carrier pigeon go off into the sky.

Like, and even then I feel you're having a child to a nanny. It really had that energy. Yeah. Not a flip. And I feel like for how like, you know, like most MAGA men are and how like rigid their idea of masculinity is, I don't, I can't imagine any of them watch that and go like, holy shit, dude, Trump's Oras fucking wild, bro. It was a little tender. It was just like, it was just odd. Like it was also, I think just also it was funny because my non like super into politics friends. I mean, they're into it because like we talk about all the time. But usually that's not the bulk of our conversations. They were sending that to like, dude, what the fuck is this coin to him? Imagine committing a portion of your life to service, in addition, risking your physical safety to play a game in honor of the branch of the military you serve for. The commander-in-chief, the man in charge of your life, comes out to toss a coin for you, and he basically just releases it to the wind with a gentle touch of his calm. Yeah.

Like, and I get it, he's wearing gloves, and he's 79. He simply doesn't have the motor control anymore to do that. With all that handshaking, it would have just contributed to the bruise that we see forming. That's definitely not for an infusion due to dementia at all. It might be some coin tossing injuries. That's what he was trying to get right on that. That's an excellent talking point. He was working so hard to ace it for the Army Navy game that he took himself right out of contention.

And hit him right on the back of the hand where an infusion port would be. Crazy how this fucking coin's out of control. I mean, like, again, A, did it even flip? And also, has he even seen a movie where, like, a character, like, flips a coin all cool? Like, isn't that some shit from his era? Like, people are like, hey, see? Like, flicking a fucking coin up in the air and be like, wow, this guy's cool. He's manipulating a coin with his hands.

And it's called flipping a coin. Like, it's, that's the firm does communicate sort of a, yeah, a neat in this instance that. He did not seem familiar with when he went into a. it as he was executing it, yeah, he didn't seem to have much of an idea. It does bring back when he drank water. We got to see him drink water and like he had his like two little dainty like both of his hands were like holding either side and drank it like a like a squirrel. Yeah.

Or like a mouse eating a ritzcracker. Yeah, yeah. Just like how do you hold a bottle like that? Okay. Wish I could dip this in chocolate. That'd be great. If that's what he needs to do to drink water, like, do it. That's great.

Again, handshakes might be involved there. You also don't get to make fun of people who don't have full ambulatory use of their body if you have to drink water that way. Yeah, well, that's not. Be that guy who's like, yeah, I'm president despite the fact that I have to use both my hands to bring a glass to my lips. Like, awesome. I'm hurting for you.

Could you imagine if he did that. He's like, look, guys, I'll own it. I'm not as sharp as I used to be. But that doesn't mean I'm not as dedicated as I've always been. And people are like, no, shit-to-wing it on them. Who the fuck is this guy? That would require dementia for Donald Trump. Right, right.

That's what's tricky. That's what I'm, God, who knows what we're in store for as this, because the frequency of the weirdo post increases, just the behavior. It gets more and more odd. And we'll get into the Christmas reception he had. But also, the polling, right, is not improving for Trump. It could be all the new Epstein photos of them together or maybe. What do you need more?

Like, what are people we, like, are we trying to establish a connection between Trump and Epstein still? Like, do you need more? I just, we're at this tip. Like, you can't, more isn't going to convince anyone who's not already convinced. Caitlin, I saw the 15th picture this week, new picture of him hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein over the weekend. And I say, Caitlin, we got him. We got him. We got some questions.

We've crossed the magical threat. threshold that's going to make people start to suspect something might be up with this guy. Right. I mean, so there's a lot of controversy. I mean, it's also, it could be the recession that shall not be named or we'll just keep saying. I don't know. The numbers are going down. I don't know.

Payrolls contracting. Yeah. But then, again, we don't know what it is. But right now he's at 42%. And I just want to say, because he's lower on other. This is a poll that has been like his strongest. Just poll, and he's drop it. Like, in other polls, he's in the mid-30s.

This one, he was in, like, the mid-to-high 40s, and now he's dropped to 42. Every poll is pointing downward. Everyone, yes. And I think the real, the interesting wrinkle is, like, I think it's, like, the people, registered Republicans who don't identify as MAGA, they are, they are getting lower. Like, that, that cohort is becoming less and less on board with what's happening. But what's interesting is that the people who have responded to the poll who are considered themselves MAGA Republicans, they approved his job performance at 70%. But that's a drop from 78% back in April.

So that's not a huge, that's not like nothing. And again, that doesn't mean like it's over, folks. But I'm wondering, I'm wondering if it could just be all of the human suffering around him that he has no, he has no interest in solving or remedying or he's not even. even capable of it. But luckily, Trump is as sharp as a wine cork. So he's got to get some action going on the economy. And he said this at the Christmas, I believe it was at the Christmas reception. This is just, if you didn't know, don't worry, he didn't know where he was either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is him again being like, God, the economy, don't worry, though. I got, I got someone in store. And the specificity of his plan, I think, should make us all feel much

better for the future. To Europe, they went to Mexico, Japan. They went all over. They went to South Korea. And now it's just the opposite. They're all coming back. We're going to, we have an age that's coming up, the likes of which I don't think this country has, this country has never seen. I think for worse, not for better, but okay. And I just look so forward to the results. You're going to see results in six months to a year. I think you'll see results. uh we've never had anything like it again there's never been any country china go on just goes no results like this that you'll see in six months to a year um who is he saying was leaving to go to other countries they were talking about just manufacturing and like got it yeah and other

countries and they're coming back and where the hottest thing he said an age this is such like i'm not going to saw this is me in high school like begging my high school girlfriend to not break up with me. I'm like, babe, the miles you're going to see after summer break, in six to 12 months, the likes you've never seen, the way he will listen to what you have to say, the way he will be more emotionally present. Oh, I mean, you're never going to see something like this. But not going for, not on a go forward basis in six to 12 months. I got, I need some time, babe. I need some time to work on myself. Yeah, they didn't burn Rome down. in a day, you know? Or I don't know how that goes. But yeah, we're talking six to 12 months.

Sure, maybe he thinks he has that kind of time. But again, this is, we're living in an era where they are distributing firewood for people whose power has been cut off to be able to heat their homes because energy costs have gone so high. People's wages are down. Like all these other things. And all he can muster up is like, oh, guys, you're the way do you see they shit I'm about to do with the economy in six to 12 months. But it also doesn't help that he's also saying that it's already awesome. So it doesn't, like if I were worried about this economic situation and he was like, first of all, it already rules.

Second of all, it's going to rule. I'd be like that, uh, first of all, maybe we have different definitions of like how, how good. No, it rules. It rules. And guess what? It's going to rule even harder in about. six to 12 months. Right.

Okay. Talking exclusively to the 10 people left who own companies. You know, for real. The audience here is very narrow, but I can't help with thinking about campaign trail Trump, who was already off his rocker in the second campaign. Yeah. Just like, you know, the most recent. I'm going to get in there in two to three days.

I'm going to fix everything that this last guy missed. I got Ukraine, 23 minutes. Yeah. Economy, 16 minutes. I got this. You're all going to be billionaires in 16 minutes. I actually have it on a Google calendar. I really have the first day on a Google calendar. And he just holds up like a my first calendar or a piece of paper. Is that a Kathy? With Googly eyes on it. The weather report has like a frowny face rain cloud on it. I think that's the longest timeline for a goal I've ever heard him issue. And I also think he mistook a diagnosis in terms of like lengths of life left for his most recent doctor's visit. But in six to 12 months, the economy might get better. There is a chance. There is a chance. That could be terminal, sir.

We don't know you. He is just like. Love that movie. The way he's being carefully bandated and just sort of led around a White House full of signage to let him know what room he's walking into at this point. Like, we know the characters behind the scenes that are just like just pushing at his diapered rear holding him in place so that they can just stay behind. behind the scenes to do what they're saying. Like, Russ Watt is delighted. Stephen Miller is perfectly happy to let a tottering Trump just sort of toddle his way

through the White House, bumping from sign to sign to identify where the Oval Office is. The theory that the ballroom... This is the ballroom is just to keep him busy. Like, it's doing two things. It's distracting an agitated dementia patient, and it's allowing him to recreate an environment that's familiar to him. So should he live long enough to see the ballroom, it will look just like Marlago, which he just sort of screams like he's in all the time.

Sure. Yeah. Like that, yeah. It's giving drunk Lucille. Yeah. It's also giving parents in the 80s and how they would deal with children is go to McDonald's and put them in the ballroom. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

They're just like, I don't know, give them a ballroom. Uh-huh. Oh, I mean, there was Kevin Hassett, who's the Economic Council Director, was on Face the Nation on Sunday. And he was asked directly, like, Trump should. just kind of like lying about the economy. He was just out here in Pennsylvania saying like shit's better, but it's demonstrably not. Better than anyone has ever seen. Yeah. And he, and he was asked point blank, like, like, what are you even fucking measuring this off of? And I think the answer is pretty telling. What data is he looking at? What's your benchmark? Right. Well,

one of the things that if you saw his presentation in Pennsylvania, as he put up a bunch of charts, which he loves to do, where he went through the individual items that have, we've already sort of made a bunch of progress on. And so, for example, under Joe Biden, prescription drugs were up 9%. So far this year, they're down 6 tenths of a percent. Gasoline is way down. It was like the highest ever under Biden. And so on. Yeah, he's talking about eggs. And so I think the way to think about inflation, of course, is that there are like micro effects like the time. All that to say is what he mentioned were things that are pretty like meaningless in the grand scheme of, like, that's pretty cherry-picked information, too.

Cherry-picking. Well, there's this one. Cherry-picking is cheaper than ever. It's never been cheaper than to go gather fruit from your neighbor's yard to prevent your own starvation. Never been cheaper to go labor in fields. That is, never been cheaper to hire laborers. Oops.

Sorry, I wasn't supposed to say that one. Right. Jesus. But, yeah, they're coming down. They're coming down. And it's stuff we've made progress on already is, like, I think, again, not anything new, nothing you're going to do in the future, just dumb talking points where you're like, I don't know, incidentally, comparatively, this price came down. So we're going to go ahead and say,

we're doing, we're doing shit. As he pointed out, the price of pharmaceuticals has come down six tons of a percent. Six tons of a percent. Damn, we're hanging our hat on six tons of a percent. Yes, we are. Not even printing pennies anymore. How are we supposed to get change for that? It is wild how, like, I really get the sense that everybody behind the scenes talks about him like a toddler. Like he was, she was like, he mentioned eggs. He was like, yeah, yeah, he mentioned it. Like, that's a parent talking about their child's weird obsession with like eggs. He said he likes turtles. Yeah, he loves turtles. A little fucker loves turtles. I mean, they asked him about they caught up of them. I like turtles. Oh, yeah. He loves the president loves turtles.

It is going to be, I think, increasingly like an unprecedented, you know, what would Reagan's second term have looked like if nobody could tell him, no, you're not allowed out in the public eye. And he was just like, yeah, I'm actually a fucking genius. Everything that comes out of here is motherfucking bars, homie. Yeah. Mint that. Mit that shit. That's right. That shit. I mean, briefly, those pictures came out. 90 out of 95, the Trump administration, again, went with cherry picking, which they were like, you guys are just cherry picking pictures of with a child trafficker, what about all the times I didn't hang out with him? Why aren't you releasing photos of those? Because your daughter is still getting groped in those photos and you're

still surrounded by 15-year-olds in your beauty pageant. It's harder to pick photos in which you do not look like electorate's monster. 87 of 90 is what I went in those pictures. 87 of those I wasn't in. That's like an A-minus. Let's talk about that. Pretty good. Pretty good. I'd have to say, The thing that you were just playing where he was talking about the economy and how it's going to be so good in a year, that came from his, like, Christmas reception that happened over the weekend. First of all, he was, like, sweating profusely, which I don't know, man. Like, he usually is pretty dry. So he's really kind of all over the place.

It's the water. He can't really. He's just splashing it in his face, drinking problem. But he ended up spending 40 minutes talking about venomous snakes. You want to hear that? Hold on. Let's let's let's let's, let's, let's, he might have said something cool at a Christmas reception. In some respects, it's cool.

Yeah. Peru. In, uh, Peru. Peru. And, uh, you're the, you're at a Christmas risk. Okay. Go on. What about Peru, sir?

And it's known for. being a rather rough place in terms of physical creatures crawling around. 28,000 people die a year from a snake bite, a certain snake. It's a viper, right? It's said to be the most poisonous snake in the world.

Okay. I mean, he sounds like he's about to fall asleep. Like, imagine being there in his room. He's drowning in his own mind. And he's grasping at things that seem tangentially connected to what he's talking about to seem like he's got it together.

Like he's like, he knew he had something to say about Peru, and then he just rattled off him like, the viper does not cause the most deaths. Like, you can look this up. But anyway, sure, or maybe you're talking about specifically somewhere,

I don't fucking know. But that's his whole, like, why be like, that's known for some snakes, huh? The stage of life is usually limited to your family or direct caretakers, where, like, you're just getting driven to your next MRI, and whatever kind soul in your life is still able or willing to drive you just sits there and goes, there are a lot of snakes in Peru, Grandpa. And, like, none of this is based in any kind of, we've all known that Grandpa and talking at Christmas dinner isn't spit in facts.

Grandpa talking at Christmas dinner is just remembering a dream he had about snakes in a place he decided was Peru. It's Or confusing people with other family members. Yeah. Oh, God. Being like, George, George, is that you? Which also happened immediately after that. I do just want to play this clip where he stops his speech to talk about how he keeps confusing someone in the crowd with Ivanka.

Like, it's so wild. And then he's like, look, turn around. Let everybody see how much he looks like about it. He said, turn around for the cameras. Like, it was a fucking beauty pat? Whatever. Here we go. This is the most interesting story.

What do you look like Ivanka? Has anyone ever told you that? I'm looking. I'm saying, is that Ivory? Could you just turn around for the camera? Does she look like Ivanka? It's the most unbelievable thing. So I wouldn't, I didn't want to take a chance.

I say, is that Ivanka? You look just like Ivaka, which is a great couple. You look just like Abacca. I like Serge Abacca. I love you. I didn't want to take it. chance. Did he mean that he, like, didn't want to call

out? In case it was. In case it was Ivanka? In case it was Ivanka, maybe. That's your daughter. I think he's wandering around the White House just being like, Jared? No, it's Stephen Miller. I'm not your son-in-law. They don't talk to you anymore. Are you Ibaka?

Are you Ibaka, sir? I think anybody with blonde hair and brown roots just get screened at. Yeah. Again, like this obsession with, we see this at the end of magnolia with old people dying. We see it in all sorts of movies where they're like, I've made some mistakes, go bring my son home so that I can speak to him.

He also spent, so from his thing about snakes being deadly in Peru, he then talked about how nature always wins. He then talked about how when he died. his son Donald Trump Jr. is not going to spend much time there because he always likes to go out and hunt. But then was like maybe he shouldn't be because nature always wins, baby.

Yeah, he said, when I kick the bucket someday, someday. I figure, I think he'll be here for about two days. He'll go and pay his respects him and he'll say, where's Don? He'd rather be in some jungle. You won't be there, brother. And he's a really good hunter. But remember this, wildlife always wins.

unfortunately in this case so your son hates you so much he'd rather be outside killing and then you implied that by missing your funeral to go hunt animals he will then be killed like he's like right isn't that what he's saying

but you never know remember this wildlife always wins unfortunately in this case or in this case it means that wildlife will always his son will always prioritize not being around him in favor of wildlife yeah I That's, yes.

Your children aren't in the room, sir. Ivanka is not here. Don Jr. would rather shoot an endangered animal than be in the same space with you. Like, that's... Yeah, because he can at least do cocaine on his hunting trips without being embarrassed. He's like, it's going to be really hard to be snorting coke at the whole... The idea that he's a good hunter.

Like, he pays to have good hunters take him out and tell him where to point his high-powered rifle to kill things. He'd have no idea how to... They capture a rhinoceros. and put it in a steel box with a hole in it, right, where its head is? And they say, yeah, go ahead, just put your gun in the hole and pull the trigger. And they go, good shot, sir, you got it. Yeah. I have always had trouble humanizing Trump in any way.

He's a very easy figure to just sort of viscerally hate. But he is not planning this anymore. Like, when Trump's, like, narcissism and egomania was at the wheel and driving, it was much harder to humanize him. But he is deep in a cognitive decline. And is no longer, his hands can't even find the steering wheel. We watched him try to flip a coin. So he's in a Christmas, trying to celebrate Christmas and asking for his daughter

and aware that his son will not mourn him. Right. Just Christmas very Dickens. The ghost of Christmas passed all the way down. The well of empathy here is shableness. But, like, what we're watching is a deep decline. And it is, like, the best you can hope for at this phase of your life is that your family is in the room and does care for you. And they do not.

They are not there. I mean, it sounds like, yeah, it's playing out just as American as possible, too. Yeah. Where it's just like, yeah. And you know what, dude, fuck you, man. We're going to inherit your money and then you could just go here. But I think the hard part, too, is like just like with my own, in my own family, just having, like, family members have dementia and things.

The thing that really freaks me out is that, like, he's in power as all of this is melting away. A sign has to point him to the office. His administration is in power. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He is, like, using the contents of his dipey to draw a new image of a dangerous snake that he says it's from Peru. Like, he is not in the building anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's fucking frightening.

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from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again. when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history

of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Mm-hmm. And our writer, JM, poses the question, does George Orwell's animal farm have the most cursed cinematic history of any literary work?

And points out that, and I didn't realize this, the 1954 animated version was secretly made by the CIA. They bought the rights from Orwell's widow right after his death, turned it into Cold War propaganda, and changed the ending so that the animals revolt against their pigs in the end rather than just accepting the yoke of more authoritarianism. George Orwell also was a Democratic socialist,

so it was not like he was against authoritarianism. But then there was a Hallmark version in 1999, which used Henson Shop Creations, featured Kelsey Grammer, not as Dr. Frazier Crane. He was voiced Snowball. And now the trailer just dropped for a new CGI movie directed by Andy Circus from,

I thought it, like, it has illumination-y vibes, but maybe it's not illumination, but it looks weird. So it features the voice of Seth Rogen. Should we just watch it really quick? Yeah, let's watch a couple moments. Then we can talk about it on the other side. Let's just do it again.

A cautionary T-A-I-L. I don't feel good. Okay. All right, we've just watched the trailer. Everyone's feeling a little under the weather. Wow Wow That's

That's interesting because The producer Catherine asked a very important question Why are all the animals face tuned They all look like they're through the filter of like Cute face Did you clock at the beginning? I said Angel That's the people who did the sound of freedom

Like the faith based Utah Production Company Yep They're back baby So they're really going to be really going to be doing true to Orwell's vision depiction of what the message of this book, you think? Yeah. And then pointing out, like, having an external villain who corrupts the pig also kind of

misses the point, which is obviously the, like, power corrupts. And they're like, well, not unless you have, like, somebody from the outside coming in and, like, tricking you into doing it because Seth Rogen's character doesn't want to actually, like, be a bad guy. Right. So we're going to have it be some external force. And also it's going to be said in the future for some reason, like, giving sort of, I mean, it doesn't seem like it's in the future until it, like, suddenly cuts to an illumination scene,

like a scene from Blade Runner 2042 as illustrated by illumination. And then you're like, oh, I guess this is the future. Right, right. Oh, man. Well, that's, that's, I have really trying to understand how, how they sort of tie this up. I guess maybe that's how they conveniently sort of sidestep the story to be like, well, if it wasn't for this lady, like, then Seth Rogen wouldn't have gone astray. Yeah, I think that's probably right. People are like, how do you turn?

So the right is all so mad. Nobody seems to be psyched about this one. Because the right has always been like, this is about how the left is bad because it's like an allegory for the Russian revolution. And it's just like, or it's about how power corrupts. Nah, can't be that. Can't be that. Don't think so. Because I don't, I don't see any real example of that.

Huh. I wonder what the fuck that is. It feels like this movie costs $400 million to make. Yeah, those movies Yeah, we'll find out soon enough. Yeah. The Illumination animation movies always cost a shocking,

a shockingly high amount of money. This is by illumination? I don't know if it is, but it looks like it is. It's got that. It's good musical choice. Like, if you ask me to describe the feeling of Animal Farm

and pick a song, it's not going to be feel it still. Like, it's not going to be a bop. It's like, I think yeah well I think that's where you know what the gist of the film is going to be to have it sort of come because like the real version it would have been dark as fuck you know what I mean and you're like yo this looks interesting but I think somehow they're like well look it'll be talking animals and we'll take this story about authoritarianism and just like there's there'll be lambos and shit for kids to laugh at and yeah great let's do it yeah yeah the whole message of animals farm is the totalitarian pigs eventually become monsters because they become indistinguishable from the human capitalists. And the last, literally the last line of the book is the source of the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played an ace of spade

simultaneously. 12 voices were shouting in anger and they were all like, no question now, no question now what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man and from man to pig and from pig to man again, but already it was impossible to say which was which. Right, right. George Orwell, who fought. Fascists in the Spanish Civil War.

It would have loved that. I mean, I think he would have, there is a part where it cuts to, from the visionary George Orwell, and it's written in like chalk. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's frightening.

As in his word can be easily erased. So I suppose. That's a... That's right. Just like Chalk. Anyways, can't wait to see that one. Yeah, on a plane. Yeah.

Actually, I'm taking my kids. Yeah, something important. Opening day, Jack, we're going. Children and Co. Being like, gaze upon this masterpiece. Be the most annoying people in the therapy. Like, the fuck is this. Go, no.

Say that. Nope, that was wrong. Sorry. Not like the book at all. Yep. This is going to be a bit of an annotated screening, guys. I see, I see, I see. Caitlin, such a pleasure having you, as always, on the Daily Zekegeist.

Always a genuine treat, gentlemen. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? JTreeastronomy.com and at JTreeastonomy, astronomy. Easy for me to say on Instagram, tree as well. Come see the stars with me. Anytime you like, if you want to follow me personally, I am on Instagram as Caitlin is tall. There you go.

Because I'm tall. Oh. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm pretty tall. All right. I owe you money, Jack. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I enjoy the work of stocking the capital online.

I bet he's come up before, but there's an account that financially ranks by algorithm, the representatives in our Congress, and I find the work to be satisfying and enjoyable. It's like lo-fi take-down. It is a, and if you want to, if you're a Democrat who feels like your party is corrupted, don't worry it is. Yeah, yeah, it's nice to see actual numbers. Yeah, right. How much money. Yeah.

Amazing. That and Stuthius, the perpetual stew, but that's a different side of the internet. Who? Stuthius, the perpetual stew. Yeah, there is somebody has a perpetual stew going, which is a stew that always stays hot and you just add new ingredients in daily. He offers a ranking of that day's stew. So if you feel sickened by stocking the capital, which is justifiable, you can go feel sick or still by watching a guy add weird things to a stew. And there might be stuff.

There might be ingredients in there from hundreds of days ago. Well, the stock, you strain it every now and again. But yeah, the stock is now something like 220 days old. Oh, so it's like a stew of Theseus kind of thing, too? Yeah. Or kind of, wow, okay, okay. That's a classic. That's an old-school thing.

an eating establishment would just always have a fire burning with a pot on it and would just serve you from that pot. If it's hot, it never, it can stay there forever. Right, because I've seen this, because like in Asia, there's very similar things too. Yes. I feel like, this dude's been going for 70 years. And it's delicious. Wonderful, Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying?

Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can also find me talking about soccer football on the new podcast. ass ain't at footy, uh, where myself, Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin, not from Coldplay, uh, talk about everything happening in European soccer. Um, and also still talking about 90 day on 420 day fiance. A work of media I like, what did I see? Oh, I've just been watching that fucking, fucking documentary. The Puff Daddy documentary. Because I didn't, it's fucking, it's fucking out there. Uh, it's, it's definitely, I think also just as like somebody who grew up in L.A. and when Tupac was killed and being like, what the fuck is going on?

And then just have a document come on and be like, it was him, guys. Feels very aggressive or the implication of it feels like that. And then also I was just watching, oh, I just saw Jay Kelly over the weekend. And that was, yeah. All right. George Gordon. We're doing our preparations for Anna Hosnié's prestige casting.

Yeah, yeah. We've been given our homework. Yep. And we're each doing our best to get through some of them. But Jay Kelly was fun. I also watched Jake Kelly. Yeah. Good cast.

Yeah, good cast. Blockbuster cast and some really, I've, yeah, I don't know how I feel about like Noah Bombach's directing just generally, but yeah, it was enjoyable. Enjoy it. Sure. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky, Jack O'Brien, on Blue Sky, Jack O'B, the number one. I like to tweet, speaking of your end lists, C.J. Prince tweeted, for the 15th year in

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Yeah, I think just generally people are listening to all kinds of holiday music. On the trending episode, Jack and I were talking about, like, just listen to the same 40 songs over and over. But sometimes there's other kinds of music that still make it feel like it's winter, that you want to be cozy. I think classic jazz is one of those textures that is perfect. Case in point, the Oscar Peterson T for two, great song to have on just this entire album, the Mercury, complete Mercury cleft recordings of the Oscar Peterson trio. he's a fantastic piano player from Canada A So he's bringing that he's bringing that great Great North frigid energy to his piano playing

But anyway this is a great track T for two Oscar Peterson Trio See you can do a lot with your fingers even when it's cold Mr. President exactly Exactly The Daily Zike is a production of iHeartRadio For more podcasts from my heart radio visits the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows

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