The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Declared Healthiest Man Alive, Pitch Perfect 3 Is Propaganda? 1.17.18

Episode Date: January 18, 2018

In episode 65, Jack & Miles are joined by write Daniel O'Brien to discuss Trump's cognitive & physical exam, Erik Trump defending his father, Steve Bannon, accusations against Seal, the parent...s who held their kids captive, Pitch Perfect 3, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 But first, I am joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Thank you so much. Yes, it is I, Miles of Picasso's Gray period. Thank you to Brian Unger for that very tasteful art, a.k.a. Did he have a gray period? No. So that's why we took liberty. He had a blue period, and that's the only one I remember, because I was really fucked up during my college art classes. There you go.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And we are thrilled to be joined by the last action hero himself, Mr. Dan O'Brien, a.k.a. Daniel O'Brien. Yes. Killer a.k.a. Daniel. This is news to me that I'm the last action hero. That's very exciting. You are a fan of that movie. I'm a huge fan. Turn me on to it.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It is very good. Oh, you love Last Action Hero? I love Last Action Hero. Oh, my God. I could talk all day about Last Action Hero. Let's do it. Okay. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Fuck the news. There was news. There's a lot of shit going on, but I had the biggest crush on Bridget Nielsen. That's her name, right? Bridget Wilson. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Is that how I'm saying that right? Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Daniel, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? This isn't the most recent thing, but it feels really relevant. As you know, a couple weeks ago, a bunch of your former coworkers and employees got laid off. And we have a group chat where everyone was sharing resources. And they're like, here's how you do unemployment stuff. Here's health insurance stuff. Here's this. Everyone was on top of their shit.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And I look at my Google search, and it's, did an elephant sit on, crush, and instantly kill the Taco Bell chihuahua? Oh. That was the thing that was the most important thing for me to find out. Yes. Because that's where my priorities are. And did you find the answer? Yeah. It didn't.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's one of those weird false memory things where I thought at least there would have been a rumor about that at some point. And even that wasn't true. The Chihuahua died of a stroke. The Chihuahua whose name was Gidget. It was a girl Chihuahua playing a boy. Of Chihuahua died of a stroke. The Chihuahua whose name was Gidget. It was a girl Chihuahua playing a boy. And it died of a stroke. Typical.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Dog stroke? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It lived a good life. I think it was like 10 years old or something like that. Wow. And then I dug a little bit deeper and found that there was this big lawsuit because there was apparently at some convention these two guys pitched the idea of the Taco Bell Chihuahua dog to Taco Bell
Starting point is 00:04:27 and then helped them develop it for years and then saw no money from it and sued them and eventually won and got $35 million for helping them come up with this Taco Bell campaign. The brilliant campaign of taking a dog that's so identified with Mexico and having it say, Yo quiero Taco Bell. Right, a campaign where a lot of people were like, Can you please stop doing that? It's very offensive. Taking a dog that's so identified with Mexico and having it say, yo quiero Taco Bell. Right. A campaign where a lot of people were like, can you please stop doing that? It's very offensive. It's also a pretty low-hanging fruit to me creatively.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Some real 1% or shit having a dog autopsy. Yeah. That they're like, what did he die of? She. She. Jack. Yes. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:05:01 She stood up to Godzilla, if you remember, in another commercial. Yeah. And intimidated the shit out of him. Could never get the Z piece, though, to win a million dollars. Anyway, that's a whole other story. Daniel, what's something that's overrated? I wanted to talk about method acting. I think it's very overrated.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm coming to this because – did you guys already talk about the Jim and Andy doc on this show? Yeah, we did. Damn it. Well, that drove me crazy, and it was really infuriating and totally unnecessary. I think that particularly stood out to me because Jim Carrey was such a menace on set when he was being Tony Clifton. Right. And the whole argument for method acting is that, well, it gets these really great results. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Did Paul Giamatti pretend to be Tony Clifton doing the exact same fucking performance in that movie. And like the whole the whole like gag of Paul Giamatti also being Tony Clifton is that no one can tell them apart. And he didn't do any of that method acting stuff. And so who's better? It always it's like exclusively employed by white male actors because it just seems like that's they're going to be able to. Jared Leto is going to get away with sending people condoms and dead rats on set, and Will Smith will not. That's just like not a thing that is going to happen because it's just easier for white men to be problems on set, and it just drives me a little bit bonkers. There's no method performance that I've thought was really necessary for whatever suffering went into it.
Starting point is 00:06:23 See, I always heard will smith was actually like the fresh prince on right on set um yeah that's that that is always somewhat obnoxious to me i feel like that's sort of a thing that i don't know you used to be able to get away with and now people are just like they roll their eyes yeah well now i feel like there's only a few people who i don't know like i'm i like daniel dayewis, so when he does it, I'm just like, well, whatever, bro. Like you're bringing it on screen, so whatever the fuck you got to do, like whatever. I do too, and I saw him in Phantom Thread, and he's really great in Phantom Thread. But I also hear so many actors like Alan Rickman or Jeremy Irons where they're like, you go to set and you do your lines and you say your thing and you wear the costume they tell you to wear.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I was like, all your performances were great. I could point to a thousand Tom Hanks performances that were great that weren't method acting. Yeah, it's true. Hey, to each their own. I do feel like Daniel Day-Lewis is like, I don't know. Phantom Thread convinced me, okay, he's like some sort of next level actor. Like, I don't know. It just seemed like it was a different level of acting
Starting point is 00:07:25 than i'd seen before did you like phantom threat a whole lot uh i liked it yeah i did i feel like the craziest person on the planet you hate it yeah i really didn't like it i also think i'm just in uh our climate i feel like 40 minutes into that movie, I thought I wanted to scream because we're making another movie about a troubled, complicated white man genius. And it just – I didn't stand up and scream that because Paul Thomas Anderson is still an incredible filmmaker and Daniel Day-Lewis is infinitely watchable. And the actress who I'd never seen before was incredible. She was really good. But I'm still just like, you're going to make a movie about the fashion industry and it's going to be starring this like tortured genius straight white male. I'm losing my mind over this.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Right. Yeah. I do feel like he was somewhat of a comedic character. Like you were able to laugh at what a complete asshole he was. But yeah, he was a lot to take. And I would imagine being a method actor in that character on set would have been awful to take. And in fact, I heard an interview with Paul Thomas Anderson where he said that you couldn't make noise on set around him because he was in character as this character who hated hearing noises. Sets get pretty rowdy, Daniel. Right uh do not break down that one k like what's something that's underrated uh i wanted to say uh william shatner's spoken word album has been yes from many years ago and uh the people i know who have
Starting point is 00:09:02 heard it we all agree that it's incredible but just it's not the kind of thing that anyone will ever seek out. Like I didn't seek it out. I found it because I wasn't a Shatner fan. I was a Ben Folds fan and Ben Folds produced it. And they had a lot of great guests all over this album. And it's just really beautiful songs with William Shatner's prose. And they do a cover of Common People with Joe Cocker and it gets me in such a good mood.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It gets me so amped every time I hear it and I just feel like, give it a chance. Common People? Common People. I love that song. Yeah, wait till you hear Ben Folds, Joe Cocker, and William Shatner do it. Does he just speak the lyrics? Folds Joe Cocker and William Shatner do it. Does he just speak the lyrics?
Starting point is 00:09:51 He speaks the lyrics, but he's a trained actor, so there's so much drama in how he delivers it. And it's very rallying if you think about what that song is about, just the idea of this guy turning it into this – not turning it into because it already is like an anthem for common people. But I don't know. Just hear it with his gravitas and Joe Cocker screaming, singing in the background. Yeah. Not Joe Cocker. Who am I thinking of? Joe Jackson.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Joe Jackson, also named Joe. Yeah. All right. Let's get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness right now, today, at the moment that we record it. And we like to open by asking our guest, what is a myth? Something you know to be not true that most people believe.
Starting point is 00:10:34 New Jersey is an amazing and beautiful state. And everyone has been shitting on it for a number of years. I think a lot of times because people, when they fly into New Jersey, they fly into newark which is the smelliest and like most industrial and worst part of new jersey uh and also i think people just really believe that like culturally people need things they can bully and shit on right like jersey and florida have occupied that place for my entire lifetime and a lot of it just seems very easy and hacky at this point. Like Jay Leno would make jokes about Jersey. And so people just assume like,
Starting point is 00:11:10 oh, okay. Jersey, bad Jersey, garbage, ha ha ha. Yeah. Jersey shore comes out and people are like,
Starting point is 00:11:15 ah, yes, that is representative of that place. And as a, uh, it was not clear. I'm from New Jersey. I'm not just,
Starting point is 00:11:22 you're wearing a New Jersey t-shirt right now. Yeah. Um, it's just a, a beautiful state that contains everything. It's a really good microcosm of the United States. I've always felt because I've traveled everywhere in this country, and I feel like we have really great farmlands. We have no mountains, but still decent hikes, and we also have cities, and we have great Italian food and great pizza and great beaches. Such good pizza. It's such good pizza.
Starting point is 00:11:47 This is funny because Howard Creamer, when he was on, when Jack was dealing with the fire, he's also from New Jersey. And we brought this up because I feel like the Valley has sort of a – it's sort of a parallel thing in LA where people who like moved to LA, like, oh, the Valley is gross. Like how people who moved to the city in New York are like, well, Jersey, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, you don't think it's – I'm like, what do you think about Jersey? He's like, nah, the Valley is gross. Like how people in like who moved to the city in New York, like, well, Jersey, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, you don't think it's like, I'm like, what do you think about Jersey? Like, nah, it's, it's trash. So it's interesting to think like there are people like you who you have the, you have the garden state pride. Yeah. And then there are other people who are just like ashamed of it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And do you think that's just sort of like of years of feeling bad about being from Jersey that like that it creates that like, yeah, I don't, I don't like it. Or do you think, is there any validity to someone thinking that Jersey is a garbage state? I mean, I don't want to call him a liar, but... If I may answer as someone who's not from New Jersey, but spent my summers there, I think it's, like Daniel said, it contains everything. And so it's really a matter of what you focus on. And so my family reunions on my mom's side would happen in a beach town called Ocean City. And then my dad's reunions, my dad's side of the family reunions would happen in Sea Isle and which is like one island over.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And Ocean City is like this just great town. It's like a dry town that has never like just had any of the jersey sure ness that you saw in the mtv show right c-isle like has a little more that yeah like has a little bit more of that vibe so it's like you can go from one island to the next and it's you have two totally different atmospheres so is new jersey your ancestral home if you have these family reunions there like your family's from New Jersey? That's where both sides of my family would spend their summers, but it's like
Starting point is 00:13:29 my family's from Philadelphia. I feel like I've never been, because Jack and I used to work together and I don't know if you have this problem, I can never exactly pin down where he's from. No. I can't either. It depends on the guest. He'll be like, yeah, I grew up there too. I'm like, what the fuck? You were from Kentucky the other week and not here. I just introduced him to a buddy of mine.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I was like, oh, Brian, this is Jack. Jack, Brian's from Boston. Like, are you from Boston? Sort of. Well, because people from Boston will be like, oh, so how long did you live in Boston? I only lived there really for two years. And that does not qualify me as being from Boston. Yeah, definitely not.
Starting point is 00:14:04 To people from Boston. I feel like my whole life I associated you with Boston. Yeah, because that's where I had a couple very formative years. Literally a couple. Yeah, literally a couple. All right, let's get into the stories of the day. The thing that a lot of people are talking about right now is that the president aced his cognitive exam. Yes. And aced his physical exam. He is the same height and body weight as NFL quarterback Jay Cutler. Oh, wow. Tall, lithe, athletic Jay Cutler. Yeah. Same frame, apparently,
Starting point is 00:14:43 when you look at them next to one another. That would seem to be physically impossible. Well, I was worried, but then I saw on the Internet that the president is big and strong and smart, so I could just check out now. Yeah, there you go. No problem there. The president allegedly requested a cognitive exam so he could show all those people shouting him, the haters, that he is in top-notch condition and is, in fact, a very stable genius. And he got a 30 for 30. Not an ESPN documentary.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He got a score of 30 out of 30. And, yeah. That means he's smart. I was impressed until i saw the exam it's like got a drawing of a lion and is like what is this animal and he has to name that correctly there there's one hard question there's a hard yeah there's one hard question where uh you have to remember like a series of five words uh a couple minutes after they're said to you uh so you know but it could do that it's weird though right because we were saying like his the weight that he came in for his height which is like so they're saying he's what six
Starting point is 00:15:55 three six three two thirty nine which for a bmi score technically puts you just what one pound below obese one pound below obese what a lucky below obese. What a lucky stroke of – Damn. Interesting. So, yeah, that was – my friend Chris sent me that this morning. He was like, isn't that lucky? Isn't that amazing? Wait, but it is even 6'3"?
Starting point is 00:16:15 The internet still says 6'2". Like that's still what the internet has decided he is. Yeah, Google President Trump's height. It will say 6'2". There are lots of pictures of him next to people who are six foot one and uh he looks either shorter or exactly the same height as them uh there is a picture of him next to uh jeb bush during the debates and jeb bush seems to be at least two inches taller than him. Jeb Bush is 6'3". So, yeah. 6'3 is one of those reach heights.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Right. You know what I mean? Like Charles Barkley was 6'8", supposedly. He was actually like 6'3". Like, nah, come on, baby. Yeah. So. That's why I think there may be a little foolery going on, sadly, with that doctor.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. It's interesting because the doctor, like we we looked into him He was appointed by President Obama So it's not like he's Trump's crazy Like hack, partisan hack Even though his name is what, Dr. Dr. Ronnie Hey, Dr. Ronnie, call Dr. Ronnie
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, that does sound like a Jersey Shore nickname Well, Ron Yeah, Dr. Ronnie Ron, stop Went to high school with her With Sam? Sam Xenart Jersey Shore nickname. Well, Ron. Yeah, Dr. Ronnie. Ron, stop. Went to high school with her. With Sam? Sam.
Starting point is 00:17:29 She met sweetheart? What? No. That was crazy. That was the thing that was like super embarrassing when that show came out and everyone was like, Oh, is this what? What? Jersey? Well, Sammy was in home with me.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I know her. Snooki's my friend's cousin. Fuck. All right. Yeah. Yeah, I am. Yeah. Get you. Anyway. Super producer Anna Jose has a look of shock what happened oh she
Starting point is 00:17:51 i thought that president trump had resigned or something like that by based on the look on super producer anahosie's face and it it was actually her response to Daniel knowing members of the Jersey Shore cast. There's also Eric Trump was on Fox News talking about how his dad is colorblind. Yeah, because he can't be racist. Oh, oh. He's not racist. That was not a cognitive thing. Got it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, he said his dad only sees one color and it's green. I don't know. Which would be troubling physically yeah this is on fox and friends i think this morning yeah uh people in the meeting said some things about race and that people are calling him a racist for the last five or six days um i know you don't agree with that but is there anything you could bring to this conversation you think is important my father sees one color green that's all he cares about he cares about the economy all right he does not see right he's the least racist person i've ever met in my entire life it's total nonsense
Starting point is 00:18:49 the least racist person yo come on who's the least racist person you've ever met we were saying that how can you even give anyone that title it's ridiculous i think the only person that makes sense you'd be like well martin luther king King Jr. was the least racist person to live. I know plenty of people that I don't think are racist. But even like to give someone that title just seems impossible. Well, Trump loves superlatives. You know what I mean? So I was voted a least racist person in my high school. So I feel like it's something he would lie about.
Starting point is 00:19:26 would lie about also that that would normally be like a president's child being like he only sees green would be like an angsty thing that like they way they would criticize them right but in like when you didn't come by baseball game because all you think about is money um yeah but other other things that he needed to nail for the cognitive exam include drawing a clock at 11. What is it? 10 past 11. Oh, tricky one, huh? That's something. Just looking at this quiz, it really goes downhill quickly.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The very first category is visuospatial slash executive. Which sounds very complex. It sounds pretty advanced. And then question number two draw a clock question three naming one of these fucking animals right right and what's funny is the guy who created that test he's like a lebanese canadian immigrant and he was like finding it ironic he's like that he's depending on somebody with all his like muslim bands and anti-immigrant shit that oh like i my test bailed you out or you're trying to act like this test made you seem that you are the most sane and stable person.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But he also points out that that test has its flaws, and it's also like, it just sort of, it's meant to do a basic, just be like, okay, your brain is sort of working, but it doesn't test like anything psychological or judgment or anything like that. That guy who made the quiz is maybe the most sweetly naive person I've ever heard in my life, because he was interviewed, and he was like, maybe the president will learn from this and soften on his immigration policies. Oh, buddy. No. You think he's going to know you made this cut back to the studio and they're just all like wiping tears from their eyes laughing so hard.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. Yeah. No, that's probably going to happen. So apparently, Miles, you were saying that Dr. Sanjay Gupta also spoke with Dr. Rani about the president's heart health. Yeah, because apparently like in 2009, Sanjay Gupta had heard that Trump had basically started having these, quote, tests that are actually looking for the presence of calcium in the blood vessels that lead to the heart. And steadily up until this past week, when he had to perform it again, those numbers have gone up. And when they get to a certain age that means you have heart disease so gupta followed up with dr ronnie uh and was like asking him about these tests and this is what he had to say quote it was
Starting point is 00:21:34 interesting when i spoke to dr jackson at first he said he had passed all the tests with flying colors gupta said when i asked him specifically about that test about the calcium uh he did then concede that in fact the president does have a heart disease. They're going to be increasing medications, including cholesterol-lower medications, et cetera, et cetera. So basically what they're saying – I mean one way to look at it is that he's technically within the threshold, a measurable threshold that will put you – say technically that you do have heart disease. But the doctor is saying like it's manageable or whatever. Yeah. And so, I mean I want to trust this guy because he's a doctor who was appointed by Obama.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He's also a military guy. And the people who most benefit from having Trump in power are also the military guys who are actually running our country. But, yeah, like he was specifically asked. People were like, wait, so how is he so healthy if based on the diet that he eats and Doc Ronnie was like, oh, he's just got the best genes I've ever seen. He's the perfect genes. Genetically, he's the best. It makes me feel like a crazy person, though, because I also as soon as I hear about this, it makes me start to question, is this doctor on the level? And that makes me feel like a conspiracy theorist.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Right. Me too. Because if he had given me the information that I believe in my heart to be true, I wouldn't be questioning anything. Right, right. This doctor who Obama appointed, it's like, no, he's healthy. Yeah, he's like, I don't know, it's fucking weird to me too, man. Nope.
Starting point is 00:22:58 These genes. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. Let's just keep our eye on it. Obviously, we're not hoping for him to have bad things happen to him. No, not at all. I just feel like, you know, is this doctor truthful? Is he really measuring him at 6'3"?
Starting point is 00:23:16 I would love to get my stats because then it would probably finally put to bed that I am 6'2". Right. That's grown since this morning. Only 6'2"? I can't believe it my dad spot check the president's height because that is my dad's insane superpower almost everyone oh really every actor was like oh yeah uh i saw david morris in the subway today tall guy six foot three and uh dustin hoffman small guy you could eat soup off his head that's how like it's tall guy or you could eat soup off his head That's incredible It's tall guy
Starting point is 00:23:46 Or you could eat soup off his head That's how my dad measures people There's only two heights I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger At a coffee bean In LA And I Called my dad about it
Starting point is 00:23:55 I was like I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger And before I could even say anything He says They say he's 6'2 He's 5'11 And I'm like Fuck yeah he is
Starting point is 00:24:03 And then you go on the internet And he's like listed as 6'2 He's a short guy He's a short guy So He's 5'11". And I'm like, fuck yeah, he is. And then you go on the internet and he's like listed as 6'2". He's a short guy. He's a short guy, yeah. So get your dad on the case. Yeah. Will Smith also not – he's listed as like 6'1", 6'2". When you see him in person, he's not that tall.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And that is – I could do an entire episode just about like celebrities who are taller or shorter than you would expect. A new podcast where we gotcha celebrities. Hey, can we miss you really quick? Uh-oh, it's only 5.11, my man. But yeah, I don't know. I want to believe it. I don't want to feel like a conspiracy theorist at the same time during the press conference when people were like, but his diet is so bad. Shouldn't he have heart disease?
Starting point is 00:24:43 That would have been a great time for him to say yeah he does have heart disease but he lied and was like no he's just got great genes yeah because like all those test scores about his like blood levels they're like doctors saying like this technically would put so it's still on the up and up because doesn't isn't the president allowed to decide what the public is and isn't allowed to know about their health yeah yeah yeah yeah i guess that's true whatever it doesn't matter like there's so much bigger shit like i don't know brian we just got yeah but we see those funny is we just got hung up over whether or not this dude is six three or he has heart disease yeah when we have so many bigger fish to fry
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Starting point is 00:29:32 Now we got him. Now we got him. But now apparently that has been changed. Yeah, his lawyers negotiated with Mueller and like now he's just going to go in and have a little interview with Mueller, which seems to suggest like that he's going to be open. Like all the reports are that he's willing to openly cooperate and openly speak with Mueller. So I think it was like his lawyers being like, we don't have to do all this grand jury thing. Like let's come in first, which is different because Mueller has been having a lot of those people come in just to have like an informal interview kind of thing to talk. So it's weird that he sort of, he skipped right to subpoena rather than being like hey ben you want to come in for a chat so who
Starting point is 00:30:08 knows i mean clearly mother has a strategy and clearly bannon is also very cunning so i'm sure they they have that all figured out but what was really interesting was yesterday bannon testified in front of the house intel committee for like 10 hours and this is like in front of trey gowdy who's like mr benghazi and uh fucking devin nunez who was supposed to be recused from this but it's what anyway so he was there and he was basically not answering a single thing because his lawyer was like live tweeting the whole thing to the white house and they're like nope don't don't let him say anything tell him executive privilege and trey gowdy was like that's absurd like and subpoenaed him uh like to get him to to basically
Starting point is 00:30:47 speak but then Bannon was like nah man executive privilege which is weird because Trey Gowdy is usually doing whatever he has to to protect Trump right so clearly there was like a miscue where you know I guess maybe they all thought oh well Bannon's completely excommunicated from Trump world so now we can really grill him about this other shit and clearly the White House like no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, don't. We're not, we're not talking about that. We're not talking about that, but he still has to, he still has to talk, right? Well, they know they're, they were saying is like, they can't make him testify because of this weird, absurd legal definition of executive privilege that the white house is using. Got it. Okay. So, but that's why, know with muller
Starting point is 00:31:25 he has to like that grandeur like if he testifies for grandeur like he has to testify so i think what he maybe was doing was thinking i'm not gonna say anything in this intel committee where something can get out but he's gonna speak with muller and clearly look if muller isn't satisfied with his answers he can make him testify in front of the grand jury so if there must be there are things at play that we're we still don't kind of know is it cynical to think it doesn't matter because bannon can just lie like i like i feel like we've we've seen so many liars and so many i don't recalls and so many yes i might have mentioned that in passing that just feel like such dead this is all very naive and stupid of us to even care about any of this.
Starting point is 00:32:07 No, I agree. I'm just like, why are we even – I think it could be that if he hears something that other people have testified to to be true and he gets him under oath committing perjury, then he can use that to really get him. Who knows? I mean clearly Mueller has another strategy. So we'll see. But yeah, it's true. Does it matter? Because I've definitely gotten off the Mueller as a savior train until something presumably, Stormy Daniels, the porn star who Donald Trump slept with back in 2006, is going to tell InTouch or has told InTouch magazine
Starting point is 00:32:53 that she slept with the president. So she is confirming it prior to this, that she had been denying it because of this order or some NDA that she signed in association with the $130,000 that Trump's lawyer paid her. So now he's done, right? He's done for. He had an affair with his wife with. Oh, well, his wife was pregnant with their son. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And he got with Stormy Daniels in Lake Tahoe. That's it, guys. He's he's a goner. I was going to stand by him with everything. But this is this is the this is it. That's it, guys. He's a goner. I was going to stand by him with everything, but this is the one. This is it. That's sad. Xenophobia, racism is fine.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Adultery? I just love the two of them together, though. You know? Like the Melania and Donald was like, yeah, goals. Oh, you still ship them? Relationship goals. Apparently, a detail we missed yesterday that has been out there he apparently chased stormy around a hotel bed in his underwear just so just let that sink in close your eyes picture that going on uh his buff 100 and 239 pound frame his jay cutler yeah
Starting point is 00:33:59 jay cutler bod just sort of glistening. But yeah, so this is clearly going to take him down. I mean, certainly the magazine – this is In Touch, by the way, is the one tabloid that is not owned by his friend David Peckar. Wow. I like the emphasis on that. Yeah. Peckar. Wow. I like the emphasis on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Peckar. David Peckar, who is the publisher of like all the other tabloids, including like Us Weekly, all those. OK. He apparently knew about the story and just spiked it. Fox News knew about the Stormy Daniels affair during the election, spiked it, did not break the story. affair during the election spiked it did not break the story and today just uh it's where it's worth noting uh go to drudge report his top story is that 20 years ago today uh he broke the monica lewinsky story about bill clinton having an affair nothing to see here yeah so that is his main story is that 20 years ago he broke a story about a president having an affair. There is not a single mention of the fact that Donald Trump had an affair with a porn star on his front page as of this record. I mean, what if Obama did that?
Starting point is 00:35:19 You think he would get away with it, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I'm sure. He'd probably be cool with it. away with it right oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah no i'm sure you'd probably be cool with it yeah yeah if he uh was uh with uh you know uh mia khalifa uh and yeah he cheated on on michelle yeah right they'd be like yeah whatever i mean or if we found out cnn buried a story that hillary cheated on bill with lexington steel yeah or something absurd like that yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:35:40 i do wonder if that would be good for her popularity. People would be like, fuck yeah, man. Like, yeah, go and get yours. He'll read. So, yeah, keep an eye on that not being reported anywhere other than InTouch. Jesus Christ. So let's move on to some Mengazi. Mengazi. SEAL is being investigated for sexual battery.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. Mengazi. SEAL is being investigated for sexual battery, according to TMZ, who even though they are a tabloid-ish website, they have – the reason they're able to be in business is because they have an insane legal team that vets everything they report. So TMZ is actually pretty reliable. But as of right now, it's just an investigation uh you know yeah they say he lunged at his neighbor and kissed her and groped her right in an aggressive way and was like apparently she was he was the victim was claiming that he was like commenting on her outfit and saying that like you know what does she expect so damn seal seal come on man i hope you know we'll see where this goes yeah Yeah. But throw his name up there. They were neighbors and she was, like, picking up a salad spinner that she had lent him.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And, like, that starts as the most wholesome thing I've ever heard in my life. That is the definition of neighborly, like, interaction. Hey, Celia, I'm having that dinner party. Could I get my salad spinner back? Oh, yeah. Come on over. Ba-ba, ba-ba. Kissed by a bozo.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Bozo. I mean, as he says, we're never going to survive. We get a little bit crazy. Just the Aziz story we talked about yesterday. Can I pitch you guys something? Yes. Mengazi, colon, Aziz and Desist. Nice.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I like it. I like it. I like it. Yesterday I was saying, I'm trying to come up with title names, and I had one that was a little too jokey, which was a sleaze, I'm sorry. But we're a very serious show, so we can't have the public looking at us like that. Also, it wouldn't have made any sense to anyone. Yeah. So it wouldn't have made any sense to anyone. Yeah. But so Jezebel wrote an article yesterday that was like the point that was on the tip of my tongue that we had to move on for time purposes.
Starting point is 00:37:50 But the way the article is written that is about the sexual encounter with Aziz and the anonymous photographer who goes by Grace. and the anonymous photographer who goes by Grace. The article is written in a way that I feel like does not do the victim many favors. It's like almost intentionally tawdry. And I think a lot of the criticisms that I have heard of the article are sort of conflating the victim and the voice of the article. For instance, there's this one part where they talk about she mentions that they drank white wine and she actually likes red wine. And, you know, that's one of many, many details I'm sure that she gave about the night. But the writer of this article chose to put that in and like have that at the forefront, I think, presumably as like a literary device or like foreshadowing or something.
Starting point is 00:38:48 But it almost makes it seem like the victim is complaining about this as if that's just the same thing or something. It just makes the victim sort of seem less trustworthy. Right. victim sort of seem less trustworthy. Right. I mean, it's one day we'll live in a world where we just believe women and that will be enough. But we don't right now, which is why we need to do these thoroughly vetted investigative
Starting point is 00:39:15 pieces. It's why Ronan Farrow and Jodi Kantor and Cara Buckley are going to take months and months to work on something like, Jack, you and I don't think we're telling tales out of school. You and I knew four years ago about the Louis CK stuff, but we were never going to publish anything about it at the old place. And like, I would even tell personal friends, here's this stuff that I know from a source that they talked to me and friends would be like, well, that's one person's experience.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That's why three reporters had to go through and like anticipate every criticism you might have when they're breaking this Louis C.K. story. That's why it's not just me and you publishing an article somewhere saying, look, we talked to someone. Hey, you know what we heard? Yeah. Right. That's why that Louis C.K. piece was so strong because it was like – and then these four women came forward and here are their names and here's what they said he did and here are the dates that he did it. They build this airtight case because we live in such a broken society right now. And I don't think the Babe.net piece is going to hurt the Me Too movement in any significant way, but it's not helping right now.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Well, yeah, it's allowed critics of the movement to like latch onto this thing as being like, well, you see where it's gone now, like blah, blah, blah. And like, yeah, I think obviously their worldview and their heart was in the right place in doing this. But I think, yeah, like a lot of people felt too that this article missed an opportunity to create a larger discussion rather than just like a depiction of this event. I think Eliza Skinner on her Tumblr, Eliza.tumblr.com has a great article about this that's called – that article was bad. Oh, really? want to check it out right all right uh yeah so check that out and also eliza skinner is just one of the funniest people yeah it's one of those things like her piece more like the the telling of it betrays you know what could have happened and i think that's that's true a lot of people are conflating
Starting point is 00:40:59 the two of like you know people were like bashing grace or whatever and then you find out that babe.net like found her out like they were seeking her. Right. That's the other story. Yeah. I should have mentioned. Yeah. They reached out to her.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So which is weird. It's like, how did they know about that? No to reach out to her. And maybe maybe this was one of the things that was on the shitty man and media list or something. And that's how they got the lead. We don't know how they sort of got the lead, but they were the ones who reached out to her with the idea to write this story. It's not like she came to them. There are other depressing entries in Mengazi.
Starting point is 00:42:14 He was a stunt coordinator on True Lies of molesting her, and basically every female gymnast, including Simone Biles, was then young women who he had worked with in the U.S. Olympics gymnastics team started coming forward. And now it is up to 140 victims have come forward. who was also a victim, she couldn't speak, like, even at his trial because she's facing a fine because she signed an NDA to stay quiet as part of, like, her settlement with this doctor. This is crazy. But then, like, Chrissy Teigen was like, I will pay for that fine. Right. Like, fuck that. And then USA Gymnastics were like, we're not going to enforce the –
Starting point is 00:42:39 they're going to revoke the fine. Wow. But, yeah. He's, like, so specifically tailor-made to be the worst person to have his position. Right. That's so insane. Yeah. Well, let's move on to a happier story.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Some California parents were holding 13 children hostage in a house that looks pretty small. I was just kidding. This story is depressing. But he must have a good take. No, I really don't. Jack hates kids. It is. Yeah, it's horrifying.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I spent yesterday afternoon touring the town because I had just never heard of it. Wait, you went up to the town? No, no. Sorry, I should have finished that sentence. Touring the town on Google Maps. I'm just kind of getting a a feel for what what the town looks like from a sky view yeah from a sky view and you know you can do the thing where you like go up and down the streets and uh it's just a weird weird town um i obviously just know
Starting point is 00:43:38 the headlines because i was too bummed out by the headlines to know much more they had 13 kids just chained up for for years yeah the kids are ages 2 to 29 uh the kids who are adults actually look like children because they've been so malnourished right um and yeah it was apparently part of some religious thing their uh parents were homeschooling them obviously right and apparently you can get a license to homeschool without getting a visit at the house. Wow. Yeah, it's a really dark story. The town is weird.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So I did kind of a deep dive on the town. Their biggest job creator is like Ross Stress for Less or something like that. But their second biggest is a company called star crest of california industries and when you go to star crest of california or starcrest.com the stuff they sell is so weird it like seems like it's a shell company for some like weird religious cult uh i there's a family fun page, and the products that they sell are jacks. Yeah. The game with...
Starting point is 00:44:49 Like the old metal things? Yeah, the old metal, like this spiky thing. Your grandpa used to step on it and be like, damn it, this website is 10,000% haunted by a baby ghost. It's so crazy. A puzzle and one CD. Kate Smith. Kate Smith, the Bell of the South or something.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Songbird of the South. Songbird of the South. Yeah, so it's just, I don't know. I'm really interested in this town now. That's a guilty pleasure. religious cult uh that is like children of the corn style you know just people hiding inside their houses waiting for you to ring their doorbell so they can like cut your throat but uh the yeah it's just interesting give it a look on google maps a lot yeah there's like no nobody's in the streets there are no cars on the streets uh which might just be how google maps works but i
Starting point is 00:45:42 feel like i always when i look at my street, there's always cars. Well, if you do Street View, yeah. For sure, you can easily catch cars driving around. But it just looks like an abandoned town. Like beautiful. There's like lots of beautiful nature. Yeah, it looks peaceful because no one is real. That looks it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I'm definitely buying this puzzle though. Yeah, yeah. That puzzle looks great. I mean I'm looking on the garden and tools section and this handy jack extra hold tape uh for eight dollars looks like quite a steal they sell battery testers like those old battery testers from like the mid 90s it looks like facts like old dead stock stuff from the 80s that they just couldn't sell i'm i'm obsessed with this now because this puzzle that i'm buying three of uh is called back in the good old days puzzle and it's designed to remind you of a simpler time And it's a person whose face you can't see
Starting point is 00:46:26 They're at a grocery store where there's no cashier And just like animals running around on the floor You know Back in those good old days Yeah So this company that we're looking at That sells a bunch of products That nobody has bought in 40 years
Starting point is 00:46:43 Is the number two employer. It employs 1,000 people in this town, Starcrest of California. What's going on, Starcrest? Let's get to the bottom of this. Yeah, I don't know who's buying their insane products like the Owl Stretch Ring Watch or the Crystal Expansion Watch. It's very odd. Yeah, I would do some investigating. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Miles, things aren't going so well for the GOP and the liberal strongholds of Iowa and Wisconsin. Western Iowa. Yeah, so Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst, who are the senators for Iowa, they did their annual tour where they go to the 99 counties of Iowa. So naturally they stop off in rural Iowa because it's probably going to be some, you know, town halls won't be very charged. But yo, did they get a surprise? Because at Chuck Grassley's, they were like, the people were sincerely asking. This is, he was in a county that had their Republican registration.
Starting point is 00:47:40 They outnumbered Democrats two to one and Trump won it by 35 points. So he's in like Trump country. And these older white voters were there to take basically grassy to task and be like, what do you think? Like, do you think he's mentally stable? It's like, well, it's not my job to know. And they're like, well, you know, like what's going on? We feel like you're obstructing the Russia investigation.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Like he was getting questions that were like, you thought Indivisible was there being like, hey, okay, this is how you can ask him. And this was seemingly completely disorganized, an organic sort of pushback from voters. Then Joni Ernst, she doesn't do a good job either. She's at a town hall meeting and they are pressing her like it's and these are not these are Trump voters. This one woman asks her like, yo, his xenophobia and racism is like basically making our country look bad. And like, I feel like other countries, we have really bad relationships and he's not sticking up for like other countries. These are American values. And so this is what Joni Ernst's reply is when saying our our standing is tarnished and we're not sticking up for little countries.
Starting point is 00:48:40 He is standing up for a lot of the countries that where we have seen. He is standing up for a lot of the countries that where we have seen. Name a few. Could you name a few? Yeah, you bet. Norway is one of them. Oh, boy. The room just like laughs. They laughed at her. I mean, for real, though. She was saying he's standing up for a lot of countries around the world. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And that her answer was uh norway you can just hear the like nervous breakdown creeping up yeah in her voice she knew like oh i am this is an indefensible she knows it's a bad answer her brain is like hold on hold on hold on i'll take it from here so that is not a good sign especially with democrats trying to take back the house uh in this year in midterms like when you have people in these like really solidly rural areas being like talking like this or if for example in wisconsin a democrat won a state senate seat from a really well-known republican which was another big shock like even scott walker uh the governor was like
Starting point is 00:49:41 whoa whoa what's going on like, it's definitely causing a panic. So off of that, right, there's all these like weird, unexpected Democratic pickups. There's some momentum going. There's a Washington Post article talking about sort of Trump like looking at 2018. And in discussions about like, you know, are they nervous about the midterms? He basically like brought up like he's in, in this article, they say, quote, in private conversations, Trump has told advisors that he doesn't think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms when George W. Bush and
Starting point is 00:50:14 Republicans fared better after the September 11th terrorist attacks, these people said. So it's almost as if he's predicting a September 11th-like event will happen between now and those elections. Yeah, so, I mean, he's – I don't know. But the way it's being told, it's like, well, I don't think it's going to be that bad. I mean, September 11th helped out the Republicans in 2002. Right. Is he predicting or is he hedging his bets and, like, hoping for a 9-11? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Either way, that's fucking scary as shit. It really is because, I mean, his favorite person is Putin. Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin. He speaks very, you know, admiringly of Putin. And Putin, you know, swept to power and really consolidated a lot of his power by doing a false flag thing where he, you know, bombed a bunch of apartment buildings, killed a bunch of Russians, and then blamed it on Chechnyan terrorists,
Starting point is 00:51:09 even though it was obviously, like journalists have basically proven that it was done by the FSB, which is their CIA, essentially. So, yeah, that's always been a big worry of mine is either what happens if a 9-11 organically happens or if he makes one of those things happen because he seems like the worst person for one of those things to happen. Yeah, because the thing about even on the campaign, how he was like, oh, Russia, I'd love your help. Or like WikiLeaks, please show those things like where you kind of suspect that he knew as he said that stuff and then when you sort of juxtapose that with him sort of privately being like well you know 9-11 helped out the republicans like no people are saying so i don't know it's it's that's a weird that's a weird very weird quote yeah uh all right we have canadian bacon is that reference scan i think so i mean
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Starting point is 00:56:00 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We wanted to talk about the movie that everybody's talking about. Yes, Paddington 2. Actually, people are talking about Paddington 2. They said it has a near-perfect score. It is a perfect score. No, we wanted to talk about pitch perfect three uh which came out a while ago but um yeah jm mcnab one of our writers pointed out there there have been some articles that are
Starting point is 00:56:36 suggesting that pitch perfect three is a you know military propaganda essentially uh u.s military that the u.s military might have been involved in the making of Pitch Perfect 3, which sounded crazy to me as somebody who hasn't seen Pitch Perfect 3. Daniel, you have seen it, correct? Huge fan of the whole franchise. The second one was a little bit weak. The pitch is back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Third one was definitely better than the second one, but they're all enjoyable. The second one was pretty rough. Wait, so what is the evidence that, oh, you're trying to present for this conspiracy exactly? Well, the plot of the first two movies were a college a cappella group doing a competition. Right. And now they're all out of college and they decided to form this a cappella – just like be an independent a cappella group. be an independent acapella group and the competition that they have this time around is to go uh to compete against other actual bands uh across a bunch of military bases to find out who is going to open for dj khaled in the broader longer uso tour oh uh and i didn't immediately think of it
Starting point is 00:57:41 as pro military until i read jm stuff because didn't – you're not like going into parts of the world that scream very military to me. It's not – you're not in Afghanistan or Iraq or anything like that. It seemed like the tour was a loose excuse to get them to go to Rome and to get them to go to Spain and these very like vacation spots. They're not like – you Right. You don't see any battlefield action whatsoever. Yeah, there's no battlefield. But thinking about it, they're always on some different, beautiful military base. And there's a bunch of hunky, well-dressed soldiers walking around being great and perfect and appreciative of the acapella group. this acapella group which is very strange it's just such a weird turn for the movie to organically make on their own that's uh not even the weirdest turn and there's some spoilers if that's okay yeah i will just say right now spoiler alert in case you don't want pitt's perfect three ruined for you mostly plot driven film uh so the always perfect john lithgow plays Fat Amy's estranged father who kidnaps all of the Bellas and they have to fight their way off of his boat and then ultimately blow it up. Really?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yep. Huh. It became an action movie. It became an action film. Weird. Cool. Franchise has everything. And like the soldiers are like the hunks, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 They're like the hot hot dudes the love interest um i mean if there's one thing i know men in the military love acapella groups oh yeah that is that's one thing they're known for so that i mean it's tracking for me i don't see the problem here that was like a legitimately confusing part because they're competing against uh this like punk rock band and this like very large uh edward sharp and magnetic zero type band and the bellas feel very insecure because they don't have instruments and like no one's gonna like us we're not gonna win this competition which never scanned to me as a plausible conflict because your group is the group full of beautiful women right dressed scantily dancing
Starting point is 00:59:45 and singing which is what i think a lot of these men oh god but that's that's never like the thing you know those famous uso tours where the clash would come out and bust up all their instruments um that's that's very strange but yeah so this is this is not unheard of, right? Top Gun was mostly paid for by the US military. It was basically a US Department of Defense recruiting. to fake and there aren't many of them that you can get your hands on that aren't owned by the military are aircraft carriers. Those are – Those are – like that's also how you measure a military's strength is like how many aircraft carriers do they have and most nations can only afford like one or two. You can't just get that shit on eBay.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah. Movies can't shoot on aircraft carriers without help from the military. Sometimes the military will just refuse to help and they won't give a movie like any military hardware. Like access or whatever. Right, which is difficult. So for instance, Independence Day is a movie that has a bunch of fighter jet
Starting point is 01:01:12 scenes and they had to do that without the aid of the military because the military wanted to give them some script notes. They did not want Randy Quaid's character, the drunk crop dusting pilot, to, first of all, be a drunk former military person, presumably. But also they didn't want him to be the one who saved the day.
Starting point is 01:01:34 They wanted a soldier to be the one who saved the day. And the filmmakers were like, why don't you let us handle the climax to our movie? And they were like, no, fuck that. So they withheld support. That's such a sad arc for Randy Quaid. I know, I know. But they also didn't want Will Smith, who's a Marine in the movie, they didn't want his wife to be a stripper, even though his wife is like a lovely character who is trying to, you know, work towards being a nurse. First of all, girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Second of all, becomes a nurse. And then by the second Independence Day is like the head of the whole hospital. Oh, really? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. So I don't know. It's interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:25 um yeah so i don't know it's interesting it's worth thinking about when you're watching a movie who's paying for it and whether there's any any of the military money tied up in there we we don't know for sure nobody has like found the receipts that uh say the pentagon paid for pitch perfect three there are just a lot of weird questions yeah it seems like things are shoehorned in or unnecessary right yeah and they have been known to do this to children's entertainment before uh there was an episode of mickey mouse club which took place on a nuclear submarine uh pentagon memo said this is an excellent opportunity to introduce a whole new generation to the nuclear navy so that's something uh daniel yeah it's been a pleasure having you oh it's been a pleasure being here uh where can people find you uh online dob underscore inc on twitter and that is the only
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Starting point is 01:03:59 And we are going to ride out on that William Shatner cover of Common People. And that's going to do it for that William Shatner cover of Common People. And that's going to do it for today, I guess. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. She came from Greece. She had a thirst for knowledge. She studied sculpture at St. Martin's College.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That's where I caught her eye. She told me that her dad was loaded. I said, in that case, I'll have a rum and Coca-Cola. She said, fine. And in 30 seconds time, she said, I want to live like common people. I want to do whatever common people do. I want to sleep with common people. I want to do whatever common people do. I want to sleep with common people.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I want to sleep with common people like you. Well, what else could I do? I said, I'll see what I can do. I took her to a supermarket. I don't know why, but I had to start it somewhere. So it started there. I said, pretend you've got no money. She just laughed and said, oh, you're so funny.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I said, yeah? Well, I can't see anyone else smiling in here. Are you sure you want to live like common people? You want to see whatever common people see? You want to live like common people? You want to see whatever common people see? You want to sleep with common people? You want to sleep with common people like me? But she didn't understand. She just smiled and held my hand. Rinse the plaza, bar the shop. Cut your hair and get a job Smug some flags and play some pool Pretend you never went to school
Starting point is 01:05:51 But still you'll never get it right When you're lying in bed at night Watching roaches climb the wall If you called your dad he could stop it all You'll never live like common people. You'll never do whatever common people do. You'll never fail like common people. You'll never watch your life slide out of view and dance and drink and screw.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Because there's nothing else to do. Sing along with the common people. Sing along and it might just get you through. Laugh along with the common people. Laugh along even though they're laughing at you and the stupid things that you do because you think that poor is cool. Like a dog lying in a corner, they'll bite you and never warn you to look out. They'll tear your insides out, because everybody hates a tourist. Because everybody hates a tourist, especially one who thinks it's all such a lie. Yeah, and the chip stains grease will come out in the back.
Starting point is 01:07:24 You will never understand how it feels to live your life with no meaning or control and with nowhere left to go. You're amazed that they exist and they burn so bright while you can only wonder why. It's a plastic barbershop. And only once a wife. Rent a flat mother shop.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Cut your hair and get a job. Smoke some fags and play some pool. Pretend you never went to school. But still you'll never get it right. Cause when you laid in bed at night. Watching roaches climb the wall If you called your dad, he could stop it all, yeah You'll never live like common people
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