The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump DEMANDS 'Rush Hour 4', MAGA Is HUGE In Nigeria 11.25.25

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

In this episode, Jack and Miles are joined by writer/comedian/podcaster Katie Goldin (Instagram) to discuss… Twitter's new location feature exposing the true origin of many popular US political... accounts,  the COP30 climate talks, the Trump administration demanding Paramount revive the Rush Hour franchise and much more! X Displays Users’ Locations, Fueling Scrutiny Over Political Accounts - The New York Times COP30 Climate Summit Ends With Dire Warnings and Scant Plans for Action - The New York Times Donald Trump, 79, Demands Reboot of Retired Movie Franchise LISTEN: flex fm (freddit) feat. Future, Lil Yachty, Playboi Carti - song and lyrics by Joy Orbison, Lil Yachty, Future, Playboi Carti | SpotifySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc. And send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. I'm Evan Ratliff here with a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age. Listen as I attempt to build a real startup run by fake people. Check out the second season of my podcast, Shell Game, on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. When I smoke weed, I get lost in the music.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I like to isolate each instrument, the rhythmic bass, the harmonies on the piano, sticky melody. Hey, hey, hey, careful, babe. There's someone crossing the street. Sorry, I didn't see them there. If you feel different, you drive different. Don't drive high. It's dangerous and illegal everywhere. A message from NHTSA and the Ad Council. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Mejiko, Dea. Is that how they say it? No. No. That's how they said it in Spanish class in the seventh grade. That's how they said it in Apocalypto. So I think I know. I don't think they mention Mexico City in Apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. It's the first thing the guy says. He says, welcome to Mexico City. I'm Apocalyptic. Right this way. It's me, Mr. Apocalypse. It's me. Apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I mean, that's about how accurate that film is. It's John Apocalyptic. I'm sorry, Juan Apocalyptic. Oh, you're so right. I'm sorry. I'm trying to be historically accurate. My microaggression there. She said she called him John Apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:03:08 She called him John Valdez. This is erasure. Apocalyptic would be a good name for a superhero. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's Apocalypse. Yeah, but Apocalypse? What if they gave it a little more flair?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah. What if he was from Latam? That's like, yeah. If Apocalypse from X-Men had two cuts in his eyebrow, you'd be Apocalypse, you already know. He'd have the part shaved in real good. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 416 episode two of their daily zeitgeist. This is a production of iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 00:03:49 It's a podcast where we take a deep dive. to America's Share of Consciousness, and it's Tuesday, November 25th, 2025. Mm-hmm. To late Thanksgiving this year. It is. It is. Yeah. Look, it happens, man.
Starting point is 00:04:02 The retailers can't be happy about that. Oh, they're sick. They're sick to their stomachs with profits. Unbelievable. I'm absolutely. I'm sick to my stomach on this one, Miles. My limit. I got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:15 They did move Thanksgiving at one point up in the year in order to make a it earlier so that there was more Christmas shopping. That was the thing that historically happened. Are you saying that like, that's weird. That should be. Thanksgiving is not the important thing. The important thing is Black Friday. Like the Thanksgiving is just the day before Black Friday in all reality.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah. Thanksgiving is the day you obsess on your computer or phone to see, what can I get for cheaper, even though it's probably been the same price at some point this year and probably closer to what they should be selling stuff for. Anyway, it's also National Play Day with Dad. Uh, Jack, you getting out there? You playing with Dad? My kids are home from school.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Oh, with my dad? Yeah. You get out there today. It's been so a while since me and the old man went out and had a Toss the baseball catch in the cornfield that's out behind their house. Hell of you. When you're a hayseed. It's also a national parfay day.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Obviously, it's shopping reminder day brought to you by the fucking chain. number of commerce or some shit. And it's also Blase. Shopping Reminder Day is so funny. America is just one non-stop shopping reminder day. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:34 All right. Well, happy shopping reminder day, everyone. It's also funny. It says, it's also Blase Day. It says, observed annual week, we aren't certain if we should feel excited or if we should just feel blasé about Blase Day. And it says, however, there are some things we shouldn't be blasé about, for example, contributing to your 401. K making your car payment. I thought they were going to
Starting point is 00:05:55 say world hunger. Why is it? Run me my coins, bitch. Oh my God. Sorry. Run me my coins. There are some things you shouldn't be blasé about and it's about get me that fucking money.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Give me my fucking coins. Oh my God. I'm sorry. Jesus Christ. A country run by mobsters. I do feel like, canonically, November 25th is Thanksgiving. Like, I know it's the Thursday of, you know, but like November 25th feels like the day that is Thanksgiving to me.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, that feels like where it averages out in my brain. Right, right, right. So you fucked up Thanksgiving is what I'm here to say. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, aka mashed potatoes O'Brien. Oh, which would actually be kind of gross. If you had to mash the peppers, too. I don't know If you mashed it
Starting point is 00:06:54 And then you put it like in a potato pancake And then fried it on like a pan That could be good Yeah that's good That's good Potato's O'Brien for people who don't know In addition to being my nickname Is a potato dish that goes way back
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah Because America The Jacks Tavern or something Wasn't it? Didn't we find out the place that was Like it started It was a place called Jacks or something Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah yeah yeah It's very tightly tied into my lore Your parents weren't joking About that name They loved Potatoes O'Brien. They made it work for you. That's right. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yes, it's Miles Greigy, the Lord of Lancashem, aka the pleased Arsenal supporter, because, oh, my goodness, over the weekend, I got to watch Arsenal absolutely destroy Tottenham Hotspur in the North London Derby, 4 to 1. Yeah, just, yeah, look, it's a little special thing for me, Spike Lee, Zoran, Mumdani, and all the other famous Arsenal supporters out there. damn living the dream life is that who so i saw zirond got like surprised by oh adam friedland yeah was that yeah by adam friedland was that in arsenal that was a legend ian right right right right right yeah i have heard that song before he is uh he's like kind of like the good
Starting point is 00:08:10 the uncle to to arsenal because he was like a huge influential player in the early 90s and also socially too because he's a really outspoken black player and a lot of people were giving him shit because at the time they didn't like that they don't like that um what's this guy's deal he should just shut up and play is wild like the discourse in sports in the uk like where americans are like y'all doing this racist BS still like to us it's very clear when we've seen the discourse around black athletes for decades like in sports media or in the in the UK like they're still they're still saying stuff that I'm like we've been saying this shit for like 20 years and people are like what the fuck a black athlete has to be humble or else he's not accepted, but I get a problem of it in their racism, like they're behind the curve. Well, because it felt like, remember even like in 2020, right? Like after George Floyd died, it felt like people in Europe are like, damn, at least we don't have it. We have our shit together unlike the U.S. and every person of color in those countries like, excuse you? And they're like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah, that's right. We're fucking up. They have slurs that you've never heard of
Starting point is 00:09:10 because they're so old like squiddly, pittily or something. You're like, what is that? It's like highly offensive, but it's like jiggity, bigotty. And it's like, what are you even saying? That's a classic Saxon term. That's incredibly offensive than we really shouldn't be saying. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest comedy writers doing it anywhere. You know her words from the account birds rights activist, some more news with Cody Johnston, you know, her voice from podcasts such as Creature Feature and Secretly Incredibly Fascinating with Alex Smith. please welcome coming all the way from Italy the brilliant the talented it's Katie Goldie
Starting point is 00:09:50 Hey Bukeda Katie Hey Bucca de Katie I thought that was another offensive term That you're going to Buga de Katie It's people named Katie
Starting point is 00:10:02 That's for an American named Katie In Italy yeah I got another Bucca de Katie Table for two Isn't Bucca mouth Bucca de Beppo? Yes it's or basement It's like opening
Starting point is 00:10:14 Oh, okay, that makes sense. Kind of nasty, isn't it? Yeah, it's a little nasty. Yeah. Bupa de Bepo. Mr. Bucca, you know what I mean? Yeah. What that Bucca do?
Starting point is 00:10:27 What that Bucca do, Bepo? Oh, no. Bucca game is throwing that Bucca all over the place. It's bellissimo. Damn, you really have been living in Italy. how are you how is it over there is it the holiday season yet in Italy yeah we had we had we had Halloween it's catching on here the America is spreading and we have we do not have Thanksgiving we do we do like to introduce the concept to our Italian friends and they're
Starting point is 00:11:09 always slightly like they're they're aghast and a little disgusted that everything goes on the same plate because they're used to courses where you have like a preemie secondi and like they when it's like yeah no you just put your mashed taters right next to this turkey right here and they're like it is a real problem like you need to i like have a dividing line all my my plate and then sweet stuff that like goes well with sweet stuff goes to one which is usually ham sweet potato salad and then i've got the savory side which is the turkey gravy stuffing mashy potatoes they do have plates like that with the little dividers like for toddlers for babies and toddlers yeah yeah yeah yeah so you can't get those and i eat with little uh utensils that
Starting point is 00:12:04 look like construction trucks yeah the ones that you put in your mouth they change colors. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Watch, it's blue. Hold on. Now it's purple. That's purple.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Look at that. No, no, no, look at that. Watch, I'm putting the mashed potatoes. Now it's blue. All right. Katie, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the things that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We're talking about the fact that X revealed the location of some of their accounts and is revealing to me. Truly. The reveal was revealing, downright revealing. You know, I... It's a revelation. I mean, Miles, we always talk about it. Usually not when Katie's on, but we don't trust things from other countries.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And a lot of these accounts, not from America like I expected. Yeah, but they're smart, but they're on the right side of history, though, if they're if they're supporting MAGA, you know what I mean? That's right. I don't think it matters if they're operating from Bangladesh or Nigeria or... You don't think a white cowgirl... could organically be just in Bangladesh. Hey, she's a Texan.
Starting point is 00:13:16 She's a digital no bad cowboy, girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's a normal location, find a new angle. So we'll talk about that briefly, just some of our favorite greatest hits from when they turned the lights on in the bar that is Twitter turned X. We'll talk about climate talks.
Starting point is 00:13:37 They had the big cop 30. Down in Brazil and... Same song, different year. Lobby is the best. Everything's fine, right? It was captured. Yeah, everything's fine. We've talked before about corporate capture,
Starting point is 00:13:52 but this one feels like literally corporate capture in the sense that they've like got guns being held on them. And based on what they came away from, it felt like we didn't get much. No. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Donald Trump doing the important work, such as pressuring paramount to revive the rush hour franchise yes exactly thank you thank you
Starting point is 00:14:15 visibility that's my president that's right and that is my president um yeah it is just wild like i don't know pretty recently it was weird to me uh like reading about history when like uh you know dictatorial leader was able to be like and here's what the films are about the in the film industry and that's where we're at and he's going with Rush Hour which is so what is like Brett Ratner the new Lenny Reef install or something yeah could be could be
Starting point is 00:14:46 we have an update on that Jesus podcast that was coming out on Fox News with a star spangled guest list of cast list with like Kristen Bell, Brian Cox and that was apparently breaking news to them Chris and Bell and Brian Cox
Starting point is 00:15:05 did not know they were in this so we'll talk about that we'll talk about wicked breaking the box office over the weekend all of that plenty more but first katie we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i did search for grind set because i wanted to know what it meant at last at long last right you've been out of the country too long katie yeah it means a grinding mindset so like thank you so it's uh because the grind rhymes with mind and so you can turn it into a grind set because like when I was I had like I kind of understood the concept of it's like you know hustling or whatever but I was like grind set thinking of like a gym set or something or like you have a set of things to grind yeah yeah right like it's like a salt and pepper shaker and they're both got the grinders on them exactly like yeah I have a I have a nice pair of of grind sets because I have a grind set I have a grind set
Starting point is 00:16:07 because I've got a salt shaker pepper and they're both Yeah yeah I mean it's well they both grind Because it's the it's the whole peppers and the the the sea salt So I've got they both grind the seasonings out So I have a grind set But no I did I did learn it's a it's a mind it's a portmanteau of grinding and mind set So yeah
Starting point is 00:16:30 So that's that's informative and it does help me understand sort of It helps me understand the philosophy behind it, right? Because it's also like, you don't have time for saying two words, like a grinding mindset. No, not when you're on your grind set. Because you're on your fucking grizzy, okay? I'm so excited to see what this knowledge does for you because I've been saying, Katie. Yep, we've been saying this. We're saying this before the show.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Can we just get on her grind set a little bit? If she just kind of understood the grinds mindset mindset, like if she was just waking up at 4 in the morning to work out with Mark Wahlb. and the Lord, like, I feel like we'd be seeing, like, fucking hockey sticks. Exactly. What I said was Katie, okay, obviously a baller, plus Italy, the home of the fucking Lambo. I'm like, okay, so we're going to see her hop out of the fucking Eventador in no time. But then we say, why no Lambo? Lightbulb moment and we tried and we impressed this upon you as Tony, what's that guy's
Starting point is 00:17:31 name? Tony Robbins. Tony Robbins says, I don't mean to impress you, but impress upon you. you that you need to get on your fucking grizzly Adams so you can finally hop in Lambo and wait and we can drive around
Starting point is 00:17:46 when did you when did you go all right I'll bite what's this grind set today I just love this you're like you're like
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm gonna I don't know what anyone's talking about anymore grinds set you know I should this is the day this is the day should learn what this is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And now you know and watch out world. I'm coming. Yep. Katie, what is something you think is underrated? I think it's really underrated to be, I don't know if this word is allowed to be a kind of like a pussy about migraines. Like, and headaches. So like if you start like being a wimp about a headache that you're getting or a migraine that you're getting, do not. try to tough it out. Don't, like, have the attitude that, like, maybe I could just, like,
Starting point is 00:18:40 handle this on my own. And, like, if you, if you immediately chick it out, it's so much better. Like, I've learned this. So, like, I get occasional migraines and, you know, headaches. And if I immediately start coddling myself, like a little baby, it makes it a lot. It actually goes away a faster. So, like, I'll do my Tylenol or my acetaminophen, whatever you want to call it. Aceta, whatever. And, yeah, or ibuprofen, a little proph, dark room, lie down, eyes closed. And it, like, it has changed sort of my headache and migraine experience from something that maybe lasts like an hour or more to like 10 minutes. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It just is as soon, and I get the migraines with like the auras. So as soon as I like, I once asked my husband like, is it normal like if you see sort of a shimmering blob in your vision, does that ever happen to you? And he's like, no. And I was like, okay, I think this might be my migraine. So I get like the like the sort of shimmering. And I've learned that first sign. And as soon as I see it, before I start feeling any pain, you know, I just, like, immediately, medicine cabinet, lie down, dark room. Maybe some, maybe some Tibetan singing bowls, whatever you like.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But Katie, what's the alternative? You said so when you don't, what, that's like when you go out and you just, like, bang your head against the wall. I'm like, this will fucking get it out. I'm going to, I'm going to be honest, Katie, this approach to migraines of, like, taking, take it rest, getting a rest, getting it. dark room sounds like pre-grind set katie yeah right to me where like i don't know you're regressing you're not like just i can't i don't have time for migraines which is like how the grinds that would have you approach these like nope no time because nice try asshole you can't have a headache if your head is fully in the game thank you see there's no head to be ached anyway but if you
Starting point is 00:20:51 just kind of like maybe if you shine a bright light into your eyes as you're getting them migraine, to get it to, like, actually go stronger. Yeah. Yeah. It'll, yeah, it'll flame out easier. Yeah. You got to flame it out. You got to flame it out.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Exactly. Just run up to a lighthouse and just put your face on straight on. I have terrible retinal burns. With that, if you did that with a modern lighthouse, I think you'd be fine. With the classic lighthouse, would that just burn your face off? Oh, yeah, yeah. Does anyone know? I'm a must be.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And no more headache. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really good advice. I find migraines to be fascinating. Like, they're just, nobody really understands them. Nobody, they're just like, yeah, so I start being able to see, like, mystical shit around me that nobody else can see. And then, like, it's on a clock, five minutes later or whatever, I am having a headache that shouldn't be medically possible.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Right. Yeah. There's the, like, glittery unicorn phase where you're like, Ooh, pretty. And then you realize you're on the clock. You have to get, you have, it is really, it is like a, it is like a magical spell, right? Like where you're like, ooh, literally a unicorn fairy, like, Fay vision. And then you're like, I have to be in the darkness for a while.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. You guys got to get off these drugs, whatever you're taking. I'm telling you. It's, I mean, but again, all the drugs are just like creating ways to get the chemicals that are already inside your brain anyways. That's very interesting, and I'm glad that you've found a way to manage your migraines because I know they can be a complete nightmare. What is something you think is overrated? A fancy lip balm.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Just slather vassaline on there, man. It's so cheap. Yeah. And it works so good. I have experimented with a lot of lip balms because I get dry lips in the winter, and I, you know, kind of bought into the hype of, like, doing lip scrubs and lip masks and all these sorts of things. Like, man, have you ever just tried to, like, put a bunch of weird, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Like, they have things where it's like a silicone thing where you slap that on your lips. And it, like, has some, like, grease on it that's supposed to be. It's like a, it's a lip mask, right? Like a sticker that you put on your lips? It's not a sticker. It's like a, it's like a silicone thing. And then it's like, but it's wet. It comes in a little package where it's.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's like moistened with some serum. It's like an actual material that you lay upon your lips. It's sort of soaked in a liquid and it kind of like, you know, it's like a baloney. It's kind of like the consistency of baloney or it's like, you know, like when baloney's in a package and it's a little wet. Oh, yeah, a lot of wet. Why is baloney wet or why the lip thing? No, why is baloney wet? It actually has a crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:51 We're going to cover that in the icons episode. Yeah. it's like it's got a like bacteria like the liquid that they put on cold cuts is crazy like it's like the primordial ooze yeah it's like a spray of bacteria that fights off like bad bacteria so you're just like it's like wet with bacteria it's kind of gross it's the thing that they kind of write out of that's another reality so we're not grossed out that's another thing that if like your if your meat is sort of glistening like a unicorn shimmer like a rainbow shimmer on your meat, that's not usually a good thing.
Starting point is 00:24:24 No, when it looks like a gasoline rainbow. Yeah, that's usually bacteria. I look this up because I was like, I had a piece of like roast beef that looked like that and I immediately went that like iridescent thing. And it's it's called diffraction. That doesn't seem good, Miles. It's, I don't know. It's just, no, it's like the way it's cut, it just creates these grooves that reflect light
Starting point is 00:24:48 differently. It wasn't because I was like, this shit's fucked, isn't it? It's fucked. It's fuck, and they're like, no, no, no. It's okay. Yeah, it's okay. Well, I think for roast beef it is, but I think for like cold cuts where you, it's like a uniform texture.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm not, is that always the case where if it's like shiny and glittery? I feel like roast beef, it's like it gets a green sheen. Turkey gets a blue shiny thing on it. Just gross to me, maybe the. What I will say is don't take food safety advice from me. I get food poisoning at least three times a week. So I should have caveat in my point about diffraction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 If your fish is bioluminescing, I know that means you should probably not eat it. That's good, right? If your fish is bioluminescent, it might be diffraction. Fucking food safety, Foxx. You should have just gone into that. But, okay, so lip mask, similar to, like, I've talked before about how my wife will put on these Korean face masks and without warrant she doesn't warn me and then I just come into our bedroom and she's sitting there and they're very scared like they look like the face masks they look like the
Starting point is 00:26:02 face mask from strangers the strangers you know just like blank oh yeah yeah yeah um like she's in the jabal is yours just a mouth version of that you just got like a little it's the I've only used it a couple times because it's not it doesn't do anything doesn't do anything But it's like, it's like a larger pair of lips. That's fun. You know, like the wax lips like that nobody has anymore? It's kind of like that. So it's a little funny.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I used to do that all the time with baloney when I was a kid. Turn my baloney into lips. Like this kind of. Oh, they do a little lip thing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Now you know what you would look like if you were a cartoon character.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, don't work. Vaseline works really well. And it's super cheap. And you can get it in like a little squeeze tube. You don't have to carry the big honey pot of Vaseline around like my mom used to.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It is fun, though, to get the big jug. That has like a penny in there. I'm like, got to loob up my lips now and just dip a hand in there. Yeah. All right. We are going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and we're going to talk about some news. Oh. Whether you guys like it or not.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh, geez. Geez. Sorry. I actually came for the news. So that's fine. me. Oh, okay. Got it, got it, got, got, got, got. All right. That's what we're going to do after the break. And no, that's what we're doing. But okay. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a
Starting point is 00:27:35 Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one-page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name, I was Evan Ratliff. I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person billion dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real
Starting point is 00:28:14 company with a real product run by fake people. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer. The investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:05 All I know is what I've been told, and that to have truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You know the shade is always Shadiest right here. Season 6 of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Giselle Bryan and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday. As two of the founding members of the Real Housewives of Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. I was going through a walk in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Out of the blue, I see this. Huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. Oh, what? No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You are lying. This humongous, y'all. They had some time on their hands. Listen to reasonably shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And tell you who's on their grind set.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Some of these MAGA influencers. Oh, man. Because they're doing international travel getting the word out about MAGA, it turns out. The MAGA gospel. I'm surprised they don't just describe it as that. It's the MAGA gospel, actually. It's being spread to far away lands. It's not that their influence operations based in foreign countries.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure it's coming. I'm sure they're going to have some explanation for all this. But, yeah, X turned the lights on in the bar. And it was not necessarily what everybody was expecting, just loads of MAGA accounts with, I think as many as millions of followers, collectively millions and millions of followers. Yeah. We're found to have originally.
Starting point is 00:32:47 originated outside of the U.S. They're just like Bangladesh, you know, all over the place. Everywhere that's not the United States. That's basically what it seemed like. Yeah, I mean, it goes along with everything we've been talking about since 2016 of like foreign influence operations being pushed through social media because I think like anyone's seen what the MAGA movement has done to the United States. And if you're interested and being like, yeah, I like to kind of like fan the fucking.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Flames, I'd probably choose to be a MAGA account and say a bunch of nonsense. Because some are state funded, as we've seen, others, I don't know, brandies people who want to do it for a laugh or whatever, but yeah, the amount of huge accounts that suddenly were like, it's funny because
Starting point is 00:33:33 I think like Twitter really thought they were doing something like, and now you'll be able to see the location. Here's some transparency. Yeah. To own the libs. I mean, I still think that it's possible that Gunner Stormcock with like 20 American Eagles and his profile name
Starting point is 00:33:49 could just be in Bangladesh he's a broad he's studying abroad right yeah he's like oh man I could I had to get out of the US man yeah like needed more culture these accounts are so similar to and like the icons that they use the type of profile picture you have sort of like the airbrushed cowboy
Starting point is 00:34:09 or cowgirl or man in car with wraparound shades a lot of them it's wild that they do the man and it's well that they do the man in car with wraparound shades they're just like yeah i mean this appears to be who they are so we just pretend we're you essentially just mirroring mirroring it works every time um just some examples maga nation at magination x joined in 2024 they lost a bunch of followers um connected via eastern europe um just a big picture of donald trump addressing a crowd of you know, red hat wearing
Starting point is 00:34:45 MAGA supporters as the header. This one really kind of bummed me out because I've been a fan for a while at Ivanka News underscore. Yeah. Gain breaking news daily. No affiliation with Ivanka Trump. Turn on notifications.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Biggest Ivanka News fan page on X. One million followers. Wow. And? Nigeria. Ah. Came from Nigeria. She's got a lot of fans over there. She doesn't even have fans left in America.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Ivanka is actually a huge fan of Felakuti in Nigerian culture. She's been to the shrine many times. Have they actually tracked sort of like where the followers are from? Like to see how many of these are organic followers and how many of them are potentially just bought. I just got past the fun screencaps. I mean, you could if you looked at like just an actual user's account because now like when you hover over like a user, you can basically be like oh they're based in this like place so like if you go to like any account it'll it'll now say things like user details and it's still from what I've seen still saying where they're based
Starting point is 00:35:53 so that feature has not gone away like you can still see like magination X it's still like operated it's for them it's like nebulous it says like non-EU Eastern Europe we don't even know specific yeah yeah outside of the borders yeah undisclosed location like the beginning of a action movie where it's like yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. 15 miles from Russian border. But yeah, so many of these
Starting point is 00:36:21 accounts, there's dark maga from Thailand, maga scope from Nigeria, maga beacon somewhere in South Asia. America first, blue check and has a picture of a blonde-haired woman like on stage at a TED talk
Starting point is 00:36:36 kind of going like this and like a little pink dress. And I assumed this was like some sort of influencer of some sort. It seems like there's a lot of like blonde-haired blue-eyed women who are like, I stand with MAGA always who they had
Starting point is 00:36:52 to make up. They had to make those up. America first. Bangladesh. Yeah. We got a lot of Bangladesh, a lot of Nigeria App Store. Ultra MAGA Trump 2028, Nigeria. This is an interesting
Starting point is 00:37:08 revelation. Yeah. But I think it's also just one of those things. Like so much of like the way some of these accounts post, you're like fucking talks like this also. But then like a lot of this stuff is just kind of meant to like rah, raw the MAGA movement like because it's always like, I'm certainly not giving up despite all the terrible revelations about our leader. I'm ultra MAGA to this day and forever.
Starting point is 00:37:31 How about you? And then answer from three other accounts based in Nigeria with a million followers. Yeah, but I agree. I concur. this stuff seems overblown to me. Yeah, it's not to say that the MAGA movement is all like vaporware, but I think, again, the outsized presence on social media, absolutely there, like, it's being inflated. Yeah, it's like there's, there's astroturfing that is supporting the real support.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Right. Yeah. So we'll see. It's something that we like kind of had a feeling was going on. We're covering a lot in the early days of like the first Trump administration. And then we're just like, kind of like, yeah, I guess, I guess that's. how the world works now, but it is fun to just have it brought into stark
Starting point is 00:38:14 contrast of like, yeah, oh, okay, it's exactly what we thought it was. So it's exactly what we thought it was? Yep. All right. We've spoken with climate activists in particular on this show, who are for some reason pretty pessimistic about these cop events, the cop
Starting point is 00:38:32 29, cop 28, and these are like the big, the Super Bowls of climate activism. This is like where it all goes down. You get all the power players in one room and they just hash it out and be like, we got to fix this climate change thing. In theory. In practice, it has become a place that energy lobbyists like meet up.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah. And yeah, they like plan for it all year. I'm going to pump the brakes on this shit, huh? Yeah. It's both like a strategy session of like how do we fight anything designed to slow to down the fossil fuel industry, but also it's just, it sounds like it's just like Comic-Con for that. It's just like a place where they like do networking with all of the other people who are there because the entire fossil fuel industry is there. It's like where
Starting point is 00:39:25 they meet up now. Yeah. They're like, hey, am I going to see a COP 30 this year? It's in Brazil, right? Oh, hell yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every year it's always like, you always see like people from like the global south. Other nations are at risk of climate change induced displacement, begging the fucking world to be like, we're fucking getting killed out here because of climate change can somebody help us? And then people go,
Starting point is 00:39:48 oh, I love that like indigenous dance that they did before. Anyway, I'm going to eat some caviar and completely ignore their fucking right to live a dignified life.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And you end up with like what they came up with. Agreement that's fucking nothing. Like there's nothing about phasing out fossil fuels. It does not acknowledge fossil fuels. It doesn't even say like, okay,
Starting point is 00:40:09 I know. everyone wants to paint the fossil fuel industry as the bad guys in this thing explicitly caused by the fossil fuel industry. But that's like antiquated thinking. How do we move forward? It's just like all of the neoliberal like global economies bullshit capacity, like all of the functions that are just there to diffuse and, you know, obfuscate and like just put a sheet, like a happy face on things.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It's just all of it coming together to just be like, yeah. It's like, I mean, there's this, there's like this philosophy of climate change, which is that we just grow our way out of climate change. So like instead of reducing any growth, it's like, well, we just come up with more and more technology to solve climate change. And not just, not just renewables, but like, I guess technology to like reverse things. There's, I've seen a lot of like tech articles about, we're going to build little robots that go up to the Arctic and refreeze ice. And, and it's not necessarily that all of this technology is bullshit. Like, some of it could potentially work. But there is, there is definitely these two competing views. And one is that, yes, we do need to invest in renewables for sure. But we should also be trying to decrease growth because it's, we can't keep increasing growth. We have to have it at more sustainable levels. And then the other is, no, we just grow our way out of it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 We can keep indefinite growth as long as we just create more technology that solves the problems that we're creating with the growth. Okay. So what are those solutions? Haven't invented them yet. Right. But like think about it once AI takes over and like they're going to invent so many solutions to climate change while burning down the entire.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Or you could just knock it off right now. How about that? There's your solution right there. Okay. So knock it off and then we don't ask AI, the super genius galaxy brand intelligence, what it thinks we should do? AI can get fucked. Seems like your thinking is limited.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I just read an article about like the open AI kind of panicking because they kept getting like these fawning messages from people who were legit getting these massive like AI-induced psychosis delusions. Like, AI convinced one guy that he had solved some kind of like math. Yeah, he invented new math. He invented new math. He predates the AI, Jack. Yeah, no, Terrence Howard got it.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But then this guy got there his own way. And the AI was like, sir, you're a genius. Holy shit, dog. You're right. My guy. One plus one is one. You fucking rule. Yeah, you guys talked about the soggy cereal cafe thing.
Starting point is 00:43:06 no okay so one person had just tested out how much the AI would be up your up your own butt yeah and said like what do you think about this business idea it's a soggy cereal cafe where you serve soggy cereal and the AI was like that's a really interesting idea that I think has great potential and just like it's follow you yeah just like it's innovative and it's so niche that I think you could get a very dedicated client based for this and it's it's it's So like when it's like, yeah, we can just use technology to like get our way out of this. Like right now you could be like, could we just like put refrigerators in the Arctic and turn them all on? And then that makes it cold again.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And AI would be like masterful gambit, sir. That's incredible. Yeah. Let's go try it. Yes. Let's let's mix some bleach and ammonia in a small closet and seal the door, shall we? Yeah. Let's see how that experiment goes.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah. I mean, everything that you, like, I've read about it. It's just such a bummer from, you know, Saudi Arabia basically, like, telling, um, uh, Ursula von der Leyen's, like, like, what her, like, she was basically regurgitating what the Saudi delegation was saying about fossil fuels. We're like, we're not, like, fighting fossil fuels per se. They're not the enemy. It's the emissions from the fossil fuels that we actually have to fucking do battle with. and you're like, come the fuck on. What if I created a company that would plant trees for anybody who sponsored the Los Angeles Clippers?
Starting point is 00:44:43 And that would take the fossil fuels out of the atmosphere. Right. I mean. And we would just be a shell company. Well, if you put like a balloon, you know, like where the fossil fuels come out of the car's butt and you put like a balloon on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you trap the emissions and then you send those out into space. They're going to pop.
Starting point is 00:45:04 That idea is so bad. They just pop right before they get to space. So it's just the image. You have to like, fuck. They're all fucking. But AI is going to be like, that's a masterful idea. You're a genius. Double bag it, sir.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Double bag it's so simple. It's brilliant, sir. Yeah. This is also just a week too when like the president of Iran said like, Tehran has no fucking water anymore. Like we're going to have to relocate the capital. Noted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And everyone out here is like, you know, it's like, is it really the emissions? And again, the U.S. just like with Trump being like, yeah, whatever the Saudis want to do, whatever, I don't know. I'm looking at memes, guys. I don't even want to be here. So Trin didn't show up. Apparently, the U.S. is usually on the side of, like, forcing other top polluters to, like, kind of take this seriously. Obviously, that wasn't going to happen under the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah. At least rentsorically, right? Yeah. You know, China is the world leader in green technology, but. They're also the world's number one polluter, and some people were hoping they would step in where the U.S. had been, like, fill the U.S. shaped hole in the proceedings, and they kind of demanded that the resolutions not hinder global trade was sort of their role. So China's not going to save it.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It doesn't seem like this sort of thing is going to save it. Like, anything that has been around for 30 years at the height of this, neoliberal like global economy thing is just going to be too overridden with like all of the things that like it's just too easy for all the different you know fossil fuel companies and lobbyists and all those different people to just get woven into the DNA the way that like these things are set up they just think everything should be like run like a corporation and you know i I guarantee COP is having meetings about, like, how do we grow this? How do we grow the COP brand?
Starting point is 00:47:09 You know, right? Like, even them. I don't know. I think one more TED talk on, like, Nudge theory applied to climate change might do it. Mm-hmm. I think that's going to do it. I think that's going to fix it for us. It's just, yeah, it's just, like, funny to think, like, in the Dubai one at COP 28,
Starting point is 00:47:28 it was like kind of monumental because they were like, hey, we need to transition away from fossil fuels. Was how they ended that one. And like we need to figure out a roadmap cut to two conferences later and they're like, what climate change, huh? What? Don't fuck up my money. Got to go. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:46 It's just like it's this, it's this mass delusion of like we don't really fundamentally need to change our lifestyle at all. We can have just the same exact system, the same. uh just sort of rampant consumption and never ending growth and we'll just fix it because we'll make robots that like help polar bears swim or something well and i think it also helps continue like the mass delusion of people like who live in these like imperial colonizer countries realizing that like while you think shit's pretty where you're at the rest of the world is suffering but it's abstract so it's like most things where I want to ignore the interconnectedness of everything, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:48:32 choose to say that's like a thing only happening to those people. The chaos that ensues from climate change will not reach my doorstep and when in fact it already is. But it just leads to more bearing your head in the Bucca. That's just like your opinion all up in that Bucca. I got my head in a Bucca like you wouldn't believe. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back to talk about some less serious news. right back. Hold on. I mean, well, it depends on how you feel about the rush hour franchise, I guess. There's a black and Asian person, Jack. Hold the fuck on, okay?
Starting point is 00:49:07 All right. We'll be right back. Hi, Kyle. Could you draw up a quick document with the basic business plan? Just one page as a Google Doc and send me the link. Thanks. Hey, just finished drawing up that quick one page business plan for you. Here's the link. But there was no link. There was no business plan. It's not his fault. I hadn't programmed Kyle to be able to do that yet. My name is Evan Ratliff.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I decided to create Kyle, my AI co-founder, after hearing a lot of stuff like this from OpenAI CEO Sam Aldman. There's this betting pool for the first year that there's a one-person, a billion-dollar company, which would have been like unimaginable without AI and now will happen. I got to thinking, could I be that one person? I'd made AI agents before for my award-winning podcast, Shell Game. This season on Shell Game, I'm trying to build a real company, with a real product run by fake people.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. I found some really interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Listen to Shell Game on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:14 A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long
Starting point is 00:50:27 to catch him. I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl, from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know.
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Starting point is 00:52:23 It's okay not to be okay sometimes and be able to build strength and love within each other Thanksgiving isn't just about food It's a day for us to show up for one another I'm Elliot Connie host of the podcast Family Therapy A series where real families come together to heal and find hope What would be a clue that would be like I've gotten lots of text messages from him
Starting point is 00:52:51 This one's from a little bit better of a version of him. Because he's feeding himself well. It's always a concern. Like, are you eating well? He's actually an amazing cook. There was this one time where we had neighbors and I saved their dog. And I ended up inviting them over for food. And that was like one of my proudest moments.
Starting point is 00:53:10 This is family therapy. Real families, real stories on a journey to heal together. Listen to season two of Family Therapy every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And like we said, you go back, you look at Nazi Germany and like Hitler's like, here's what we should be making. All right? These are the type of movies we make. And you're like, that's so weird to just like trust the government with like the movie industry. So we're, So we're entering a world where these Trump-approved billionaires are now going to own, like, an illegal amount or could soon own an illegal amount of the film industry.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And what will Donald Trump do with that power? It's starting to take shape. And it's actually exactly what I would have expected if I had just, like, taken the time to think about it. Because you just, when you think about all the fascists who, the classic. 20th century fascists. They loved a bit of cinema, didn't they? Trump. Hitler, Mussolini,
Starting point is 00:54:27 started a whole fucking studio in Rome to be like, oh, honey, we're going to make the best propaganda films you've ever seen, while also helping our film industry. So to know, what their visions were,
Starting point is 00:54:38 they were talking about like the Roman Empire and things like that, but it's, so I'm guessing Trump is doing like revolutionary kind of material, bring back the Patriot
Starting point is 00:54:46 with Mel Gibson. So, kind of. So he's, he's using his relationship to Larry and David Ellison to bend them to his whims and in that way
Starting point is 00:54:59 he wants to bring the rush hour franchise back which he's not like a big movie guy like the thing that we know about his movie taste is the anecdote where he had them use like he used his power to get people to
Starting point is 00:55:16 edit the movie Bloodsport down so that it was only the fight scenes. Yep, yep, yeah. He's, he ain't got time. He loves Broadway musicals though, does he? That's true, yeah. He loves cats. He, like, Memories is one of his favorite songs.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'm not, I'm not, like, that's true. He's super into that. Which is soon going to be ironic when he doesn't have anymore. But, yeah, he was blasting Phantom from the Oval Office the other day. I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:55:49 like that. There's constantly anecdotes about him just viving out to some show tunes, some, some Broadway. But yeah, somebody was reporting this. They cited someone directly familiar with the conversation saying that Trump personally pressed Ellison to revive the Jackie Chan Chris Tucker Buddy Cop franchise Rush Hour, which the New Yorker previously reported that the 1988 John Claude Van Dam Action Flick Bloodsport was one of the president's favorite films of all time, which could, it could just be him.
Starting point is 00:56:21 not admitting what he's really into, you know? Right, right, right, right. These are like the ones that have been approved as like macho. And so he, yeah. Oh, man, does he know those two leads in Rush Hour are non-white people? He's okay with that woke nonsense. I guess it's cops. It's actually hilarious the way they are.
Starting point is 00:56:42 The way they handle delicately race relations. They both speak foreign languages, if you know what I'm saying. I learned never touch a black man's radio from that film. You never do it. you never do it you just can't uh i mean great that's as much as your brain can be right now the most benign thing that we've heard to come out of the trouble you're talking to someone where they're consolidating media like at a
Starting point is 00:57:05 fucking pace we've never seen and he's like i'm sure one of us is like well look this is what i think we can do about the coverage about what's happening in palestand hold on hold on you know what you guys should be doing right rebooting rush hour i want to see it again like that's that's where his head is at because Because he's actually already said a thing where he was not really all in on all these media companies buying up television stations. Like he kind of, because in the whole time, we're like, oh, great, now all of his funkies are going to be owning like all these like local stations and can just bend the news to his will. But he just recently was like, actually I would, he said, I quote, would not be happy if the FCC lifted the national ownership cap. Because I think someone told him, he's like, this could just go the other way and everyone like all the people can.
Starting point is 00:57:51 like make the news be against you. So now I think a little bit of paranoia slip down. It's like fucking with his McDonald's, you know, is that you're fucking with the one thing that we know he loves, which is TV. Right, right. Also. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I think like the, there is an approach, a certain approach one could take, which is to like feed Trump a steady supply of this kind of stuff. Like, hey, Trump, do you want to perform like on Broadway? Do you want to be in cats? Yes. Do you want to like be in a new rush hour? Like and then like so that he's like, because he, that is like what he wants, right? He's not a good actor or performer.
Starting point is 00:58:35 He's, well, he's very funny. His timing is very funny. I think Jack was referencing Home Alone too. Yeah. Oh, that's right. He was. Let's not shit on all of his performance. Yeah, he's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Let's be fair. But if you, if you like, If you gave him this stuff, like, do you want to be Mr. Mastophiles? Like, he might, it might kind of give him stuff to do so he doesn't, like, go to war with Venezuela. Could you think, I mean, you know, right, because all you hear about is that working there is just like babysitter time with the most powerful man who can kind of do anything he wants if he says so. Like, have they tried to be like, sir, you were in rush hour and then they just pull up like an AI video. Like, look at the, remember the scene where he had the camera? He's like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:59:19 That's right. I like that. I like, you're right. Okay, I'm going to take a nap now. Great, Mr. President, great. I do wonder if, because now I feel like it's coming to the point where, like, everyone else wants to see his time occupied doing anything but be the president. But then, like, the people inside the administration have to be coming to that conclusion as well.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I wonder if it is time to, like, offer him an exciting project, you know? Like, you get Rush Hour the musical. Well, like, yeah, on the other side. people should be doing that to distract him. Right, like that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. With the, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:58 with the like mom donnie visit, I think that really shows like the last person, the last charismatic person to talk to him. He's like, oh, I like you. Yeah. And like, because he's just, he has like the attention span of like a messed up hamster. So he can't like,
Starting point is 01:00:17 he can't remember he's supposed to hate you. So if you're just like, hey, you know what, we're going to do a new Phantom of the Opera. We think he'd be great as, you know, great as the guy. Really? I don't, I'm actually not very good.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I can, I can meet him. Really? You mean it? Yeah. Like, can you sing about bread? We can get you in, we can get you in lay misrabbs. So, yeah, like, we have to, like, if you compete for his. I can sing about bread bowls. Yeah. Yeah. Taco, Taco Bulls, he loves that.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But yeah, just like, I mean, this is, I think actually happening, like, what you guys are saying. Like, I think it's actually happening in the Trump administration where they have to, like, compete for his attention. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think they are showing him AI videos, and he might be getting confused about what is real or not, or not, because he did, like, do a, he posted that medical thing, right? The med beds. Oh, you know what? Just fun fact, that account that posted the original medbeds video also. a foreign account.
Starting point is 01:01:21 No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was reading about that. Bangladesh, Romania? I think it, uh, all I know is it wasn't the U.S. Yeah. It wasn't the U.S. Secret compound. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Volcano Island. Yeah. I think he's very easily confused and very easily manipulated and the people who are working around him need to start thinking outside of the box, getting on their grind set and creating some musical theater projects to occupy his time or just like i feel like chuck schumer should just start lying to donald trump and being like yeah i actually love you mr president we want to name this building after you and he's like wow did you hear that they've had a complete change of heart and they're like fucking with you mr president why would he do that why would he do that
Starting point is 01:02:06 just completely fuck up create all this weird suspicion in the white is like you were always a hater stephen miller i knew that about you you were always against me stephen miller really likes the movie Casino. Did you know that? Does he? That makes sense. There's a lot of cruelty in that movie. He's probably watching it. Like, he probably also likes American Psycho, you know, like he likes movies for the wrong reasons. He really loved Robert De Niro and like he watched this in high school and then he started dressing like Robert De Niro where in these movies where he like started wearing rings and
Starting point is 01:02:42 thin ties and the whole, you know, like the hand steepling thing. That's like, I think that's Based on, like, Robert De Niro. Yeah, exactly. Like, I think his role in casino, that was, that's what he's, he's, and he kept doing that. So. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense why he was so upset when Stephen, or when Robert De Niro called him a Nazi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 That's right. He lost it. He was like, he's a sad, broken old man. And you're like, oh, why are you crying, fool? Yeah. Feelings are hurt. All right. elsewhere in the entertainment industry.
Starting point is 01:03:16 We mentioned last week that Fox News announced a exciting new podcast, star-studded cast, playing the roles of Jesus and his pals. Jesus and pals. It was, I guess, not called. I was called Teegis. The Life of Jesus podcast. His last name was podcast. Jesus H podcast.
Starting point is 01:03:41 So we speculated at the time. that the actors did this not knowing that it would end up on Fox because it was created by an external production company and then Fox bought it. But I mean, you're making a podcast about the life of Jesus. Like,
Starting point is 01:03:57 where do you think it's going to end up? Yeah. It would be my question. Well, now, Kristen Bell, one of the cast members, reps have said she recorded her part of that biblical at the time audiobook. Back in 2010.
Starting point is 01:04:13 and had no idea about this podcast until, quote, her team received a request for her to appear on Fox and Friends a day before the podcast was announced. Oh, my God. Yeah, I love it. That does not the request you ever want to receive. Kristen, baby, hey. Got a request for you to be.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I heard you doing a Jesus Christ podcast for Fox News. What? Yeah, they went on Fox and Friends. Welcome to the family, Kristen. Yeah. This is like the case with a lot of, um, Christian movies where it's meant to be Christian propaganda I think this was the case with there was some anti-abortion movie with Greg Kinnear does Greg Kinnear appear in it because he really
Starting point is 01:04:57 seems to appear in all those for some reason I don't know it was a there's like an anti-abortion movie I think also and maybe God is dead but like that where they like had to trick a lot of the crew and cast to like come on it and then when they like found out what it was about they would leave because they didn't want to do a movie like that. Yeah. But if you've seen Bowfinger, this is essentially both, like they're using the actors without their knowledge to make a movie or make a podcast in this case that they could, could not have otherwise gotten them to agree to me.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Or consented to, yeah. Because I remember with like Brian Cox, you're like, Brian Cox hates these fucking people. Yeah, and then A representative Cox told the Hollywood reporter Brian recorded audio for a project over a decade ago. He was unaware that the audio would be repurposed
Starting point is 01:05:52 for a new podcast series in 2025. Brian only became aware of the podcast yesterday. Always read the fine print. Wait till they're chopping this podcast up for the words to be like, you guys are doing like a pro-musolini podcast? What?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Bring him back. I love Muscoly. I love Muscle. man we're going to come to regret that episode where we just talked about how much we love muclix yeah yeah yeah and for me tortellini musli musli you love musili i love tortellini musilini yep uh is the movie you're thinking of unplanned katy yes i think it was uh also a funny thing it was like about this woman in it who had an abortion and then said she regretted it and worked with like uh these with the anti-abortion movement.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And then she later, like when she was really old and kind of she was having some medical issues and she didn't think that where she was pretty sure she was going to die. She was like, yeah, I actually just did that. Oh, yeah. A bunch of money. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Roe, right? Well, didn't like the original, yeah, they paid her off to like become a anti-choice activist. Yeah, because she was not, she was not in a great economic position. Right. So they, yeah, they bribed her to do that.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And she was like, okay. Oh, yeah. That's, have you seen that? There's a new Pablo Tori podcast about Riley Gaines, the Kentucky swimmer. Yeah, I want to dig into that. I started watching it. It's, it's really wild again because you, there's these people that the right finds to basically create a victim out of. And then they're like, perfect.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Now we will find you your absolute transformation. More like, more like Riley, no gains. There you go. And that is, and that is kind of the ultimate. ultimate the ending of the show. That's what he says. And that's why he's being sued. Katie Olden, such a pleasure having you as always.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Where can people find you, follow you, hear you all that good stuff? I'm like, I don't know, I've moved away from social media. I rarely post any more. My posting finger sustained a horrific injury. I got an ACL tear in my finger. Damn, you got an ACL there? There's, there's the PCL and an ACL and a, uh, all the tarsals and the carpels. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:18 They're all messed up. My carpels and my tarsals got all jumbled around. But, um, the, so, but, you know, my, my bird, pro bird rights Twitter is still up there. I think at this point, maybe I'll just occasionally just post a quote from Trump as his brain sort of melts. Like, uh, there is, uh, what was it? He said it recently. There is no bad. It can only good happen. So I don't really have to, you know, like come up with original content anymore. I can just have this character that...
Starting point is 01:08:49 He writes for you. Yeah, it's this character that was supposed to be a stupid conservative bird. And now I could just, I can just borrow those things. But yeah, I mean, it's, that's all still up there. But yeah, I'm much, much more you can find me doing the Secretly Incredibly Podcast with Alex Schmidt, my podcast. here on this network called Creature Feature, where I talk about animals and the things that they do. And then some are news where I and a bunch of other really talented writers write scripts about
Starting point is 01:09:24 stuff. I did one on Stephen Miller recently. I read a book about him. And that was just illuminating. Good Lord. Yeah. I read 300 pages all on the boy wonder. Did they talk about, does he talk about his love of mayonnaise in that book?
Starting point is 01:09:43 Like his wife said about him. No, but it did talk about how he used to, like, have glue dry on his arm and then he'd peel it off in elementary school. Mm, classic glue skin. Yeah. And he would eat it. I didn't do that. Yeah. I remember people would just do their whole fucking hands.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Yeah, man. It feels pretty good. This is the best thing he's done. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, I can't really shit on that, you know. We all did glue arm. The eating part's a little weird, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely weird too.
Starting point is 01:10:15 That's fucking gross. Yeah, you shouldn't eat it. Yeah, that's weird to eat glue. I don't need glue. You shouldn't do that. I certainly don't. Weird. You said that like two times.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I feel like Katie thinks I eat glue and like I don't. It's so funny because like Katie, you even saying that I would eat glue like it makes me die because it's so not what I want to do. Right. Actually, I'm gone. Actually, every time I've been asked whether I eat glue, I start laughing. That's the only. thing that I know about that question is that it makes me start laughing.
Starting point is 01:10:42 So stupid. Wow. I was a little skeptical, but I'm convinced now. Okay, good. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying besides that Stephen Miller biography? Yeah, there's a, there's a tweet. So Mark Wayne Mullen, a Republican member of a Congress, I believe. Yeah, big time.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah. He's speaking in support of Pete Hegseth and the Department of War, he says, I will lead the breach. I will lay down cover fire. I will take the high ground. I'll expose myself to enemy fire to communicate. We must bring back integrity, focus and put the warfighter first inside the DOD. I stand with Secretary of Defense. Pete Hegseth, America flag. And some guy named Fred Wellman replied, you're a fucking plumber. You've never served. You could have, but you didn't. We had the longest war in U.S. history and you sat that shit out the whole time. But now you want to be a big, tough guy for the idiot that can't keep a secret. You're such a fucking joke. No one's scared of you.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Go clear a drain of your own bullshit. Wow. Wow. He is the most, one of the most insecure members of Congress. like he this is a guy who was like calling people out to fight him Mark Wayne yeah poor guy
Starting point is 01:12:14 how come he gets to have two names as one name Mark and Wayne Mark Wayne because his parents fucking ruled no yeah hell yeah I will lead the breach
Starting point is 01:12:25 I will lead the breach I would have just got like like I'm fine just been like oh okay that guy's a that like he's a he fought in the war um
Starting point is 01:12:36 I would have assumed this was like a 14-year-old playing Call of Duty. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Even those kids have more, I think, tactical know-how than more clean moment. I will lay down cover fire. I will have your six. I will call in airstrike after kill streak.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Okay, that's a video game. I will press app to pay respects. Yeah. I will frag. I will frag now. Fragging. What? My KD ratio.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. Oh, wow. Be on compare. Okay. K.D. Golden over here. Yeah. Oh, nice. That's a good one. Amazing. Miles. Where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Posting really when it's like, I think I've posted like when Arsenal does something or I saw Blake or Anna in the wild in New York. So I'm not really a prolific poster. So sure. If you want to do there.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Your metacarpals and your tarples got all jumbled. Oh, my tarples and my carsels. Oh, fuck. up all fucked up uh but no do check it out because we do post uh fun clips from the show um and people are really loving the ice versus subway sandwich clip um yeah a lot of people like in that clip i don't know why it must be because we're so fucking cool or the story the story is objectively absurd i don't know which one but yeah there you can find me you can also find me talking about 90 day fiancee on 420 day fiance a work of media i like is jack we've we've laughed before
Starting point is 01:14:03 about like basketball memes that come out of china because they're physical humor around like they love basketball in china but they are physical humor around basketball is really funny there was one clip we laughed at about the guy euro stepping yeah euro stepping and then they like turns into a whole chorus line okay so this new one it was just posted like this is just an account that's posting other memes so forgive me i don't know who originally posted this video but is this dude fucking on his grizzy okay working on his post up dribbling but using fucking industrial machines
Starting point is 01:14:36 things that should not be used so it's not going to make sense but just imagine a guy posting up against a fucking bulldozer than a trash can my god sounds like gunshots just fucking
Starting point is 01:14:58 wow so stupid But again, I love it. All the comments are like, bro training to post up against Prime Shack. We're like, yep, exactly. Yeah, that's what it looks like. I've been enjoying some tweets.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Sophia at Pastoral Comical tweeted sometimes someone will tell you something like most honey they sell is fake. And you just have to decide whether or not to integrate that into your worldview. Yeah, wow. I have been told that and I'm just like, I don't believe you.
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