The Daily Zeitgeist - tRuMp dYnAsTy, Down For Clowns? 9.10.19

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

In episode 470, Jack and Miles are joined by Go Fact Yourself's co-host J. Keith van Straaten to discuss an update on the college admissions scandal, Trump attacking famous people of color, scientists being told to not contradict Trump, CIA removing spies from Russia because Trump, Ivanka versus Don Jr., if Impossible burgers and Beyond Meat are healthier than regular meat, clowns, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Looming Over the College Admissions Case: Will Parents Like Felicity Huffman Get Jail?2. CHRISSY TEIGAN CALLS PRESIDENT TRUMP ‘P*SSY ASS B*TCH’ AFTER HE ATTACKS HER ON TWITTER3. NOAA Told Its Scientists to Keep Their Mouths Shut About Trump's False Forecast: Report4. CIA reportedly removed top spy from Russia over fear they could be compromised by Trump5. The Heir6. iPhone 11, 11 Pro, 11R and 11 Max: Price, specs and features we expect Tuesday7. The Impossible Burger and Beyond Meat aren't healthier. Fast food's meatless marvels are just P.R.8. 'Joker' wins Best Film at the Venice Film Festival9. WATCH: j.robb - dancewithme Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever

you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 99, Episode 2 of Dirt Daily Science, guys! A production of iHeart Radio, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Tuesday, September 10th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Never told you about the coal gas.

Did I tell you about that Dunning-Kruger? Tired of catching all this flack. But y'all love me for my second-rate podcast. And this is why I always need... This is why I always need Diet Mountain Dew this is why I always need Diet

Mountain Dew and that is courtesy of somebody's name who I don't have in front of me but thank you for that bespoke Nickelback aka I will shout you out at the end of the episode. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. This is my co-host, Jack. I like my Coakland cold brew black. I say yes right off the top. Safe to say I smoke a little pot. Her majesty is my queen. Mom sewed Burberry into my jeans. Only eating Taco Bell.

I hope the Zag Gang is doing well. Oh, God. Get me to a hospital. Seriously. Thank you to Elizabeth K At Ekins33 For that one They're really

Safe to say Newbies coming out of the Woodwork I like people are like Listening You know what I mean Weaving in anecdotes About how my mother

Selflessly after me Screaming at her As a teenager Sold his Burberry patch Onto my jeans. And my Diet Mountain Dew, this is why, was courtesy of Guarantee Fairy at Besore. Guarantee Fairy.

Guarantee Fairy. Oh, wow. We all could use that. Yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious J. Keith Van Straten. Do I have to sing? I mean, do I get to sing?

Yeah. Whatever you want. That's me Nickelback, though. Oh, I don't know any Nickelback songs. What's a Nickelback song that I would know? This is How You Remind Me. People don't like us. Yeah.

They think we are bad, and I'm the guest. There you go. There it is. Yeah. All right. That is kind of the only thing that's known about Nickelback. People don't like them. Until today.

I got a packet of about 50 pages of prep material that was not on there. Yeah. Until today, because we're going deep on the history of Nickelback today, guys. No, we're going to... Damn. Jay Keith, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Uh, no, we're gonna, Jay Keith, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna talk about, uh, what's going on in the Varsity Blues scandal, uh, with Felicity Huffman, her sentencing, uh, the, the wild couple of days that the president

has been having on Twitter, um, and just general speculation about what is after the presidency for the Trump dynasty. We're going to talk about the Apple card and the new iPhone. We're going to talk about impossible meat and whether people care that it might have the same calories and fat and more salt than the regular burgers it's replacing. We're going to talk about the fact that the Joker won Gold Lion at Venice and that It Chapter 2 made $91 million in the U.S. alone over the weekend. And ask the question, why do we still love clowns? But first, Jakey. Why do we still love clowns um but first jake why do we uh we like to ask our guests what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh i was searching uh today for

a i have a date tonight and i'm uh dating in la is mostly about logistics uh once you match with somebody on an app it's mostly then about figuring out where you you're going to go and trying to figure out what's fair. Because, you know, if I work, let's say I work in Culver City, this is going to be fascinating to people outside of LA. But this is a learning lesson. Okay, yeah, okay.

So I work in Culver City. I live in Beverly, Fairfax. And this woman that I'm meeting tonight lives in sort of Los Feliz, Silver Lake area. So my home is between my work and where she's coming from. So is halfway between my work and where she's coming from. So is halfway between my work and where she lives, which would be my neighborhood, or is halfway between my neighborhood and where she lives? So it's a lot of figuring out there.

Also, I know it's not going to work out. Right. Yeah. There's that kind of optimism that you get to build into the search. Yeah, make it a Skype call. Yeah. So I'm also looking for, you know, the metrics are like, where can I go that looks like I'm an interesting person

for having selected this, but where I don't have to pay $25 for a cocktail. Yeah. And let them know you were just on a podcast too. Oh, oh. Where you give all the behind the scenes of the state too. Ladies love that.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, where do I go? Does this look cool? Right. Where are you going? Do you know? I, well, I proposed the cat and fiddle,

which is on Highland Melrose, which is sort of like it's farther than halfway between my work and her home, but not quite halfway from my home and her home. Sure. So hopefully that'll get appreciated. That's a nice spot. Yeah.

I like that place. I liked it when they were right around here. On Sunset, right? Yeah, on Sunset. But now they've moved to Highland there. And I don't know if that's fair. We'll see what happens. Yeah.

But that's what I was doing. Inside LA talk. Inside LA talk. Being on the West side and dating someone on the East side. That's fair. We'll see what happens. Yeah. But that's what I was doing. Inside LA talk. Inside LA talk. Being on the West side and dating someone on the East side. That's like Hatfield's McCoy. That's not happening. That is Romeo and Juliet and star-crossed love and shit. Yeah.

And you know, you get to be my age. And so as I was aging and dating, part of my thinking was like, well, I'll expand my geographic search because, you know, there are fewer options as I get older. But also as I get older, I want to travel less. So it ends up being, once you get over 40 years, you're pretty much, yeah, pretty much just staying

in your neighborhood. Yeah, there are friends or like friends I haven't been very close with. I have like close friends with them on the West Side. I still interact with them. People who not so much

when they move to the West Side, that's the true test. Yeah. Right. And I'm like, they could be dead for all I know. I mean, I'd like to point out, I'm willing to go past La Cienega for love. Wow.

I don't think I'm willing to go to Encino. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Encino's just right over there. It's closer than you think, man. Come on. I mean, just as a valley, you know, advocate for the valley, you know, peace and blessings to all the people of Encino.

Yes. What is something you think is overrated? Cards Against Humanity. Okay. advocate for the Valley. Peace and blessings to all the people of Encino. What is something you think is overrated? Cards Against Humanity. I love comedy and I love games. I just hosted a game night at my home last night. You guys did not attend. I realize I also did not invite you. Would have been amazing had we attended.

I saw that shit cracking on the gram. I'd be happy to have you in the future. I usually host them every other week. And. I'd be happy to have you in the future. I usually host him every other week. And we would probably be happy to have you back on this podcast once that happens. Oh, is that how it works? I mean, I already had him on my podcast. That's why I'm back here now.

Miles, we don't want to reveal the dirty underbelly that we use our podcast to get invited to parties. And should I point out that I would have to let you win? Would that be part of it also? No, no, no. I hate that. I know people let me win. So I love games and I love comedy and I cannot stand Cards Against Humanity and even more so I cannot stand people posting photos of funny combinations that came up in Cards Against

Humanity. What is this, 2012? Well, but I love classic. I play a lot of games from the 80s and the early 2000s. I have no judgment on classic. I play a lot of games from the 80s and the early 2000s. I have no judgment on that. I just find it completely uncreative and unfunny. And then when people post something of like, look at this crazy combination of things, it's like, yeah, that would happen because those things were already pre-printed and pre-manufactured.

And eventually those combinations would happen. Yeah, written by a bunch of comedians. Yeah, it doesn't mean that you're clever for having selected them. And, you know, it's based on Apples to Apples, which is a great game that you can play with kids or with the elderly. Unlike Cards Against Humanity.

Yeah, but at least with Apples to Apples, you're A, you're learning a little something about what the certain topics are, but you also get some insight into the people that you're playing with.

Like, oh, I think that person would choose that combination of things. And for Cards Against Humanity, there's none of that. It's just all random guessing. Well, I will say I agree with... It's manufactured outrage. I think there is something, though,

like when you're playing cards, you do have to predict, like, based on their sense of humor. It's like, I could put something that's witty because based on the person who's picking or something that's just completely absurd. I'm not saying that that's redeeming, because for me in the game... It's more about like, you know, it's being the

craziest, wackiest thing. I just think it loses its excitement after you play it the first time. Yeah, I think... And the only other times I've enjoyed playing it has been like, I've not been sober. And then, even then, the only good card is Chainsaws for Arms or whatever that card is.

Love that one. No, it's like play it once. Be amazed. Like, oh my gosh, this thing is so outrageous. And they put it in print. Wow, that's kind of weird to see something so outrageous in print. And then move on to something else. Well, that's why they need all those modifier decks now.

Because I think people at a certain point, it's like, right, you said the Pope likes to jerk off on an old foot or whatever the weird combo is. Right. Wow. On an old foot? Come on. I mean, I'd rather play Scattergores. But the Pope is so holy. Yeah, exactly.

Why would he? Guys, let me explain why it's funny. Yeah. I mean, Apples to Apples is a fun game, but not enough Pope. What is a good comedy game to you? A connoisseur of games. Well, I like regular games where it ends up being funny because people are under pressure and doing something unexpected. So for me, Pictionary is always fun and funny.

Celebrity. Yeah, Celebrity is one of my favorite games. Balderdash, you can at least be witty and clever in how you can get people to guess fake definitions of things. I like those kinds of things. But also I just have fun playing – there's also just not much very conversational about that game also. It's like you're waiting for someone to play something. They play the wacky thing. You make a statement about like, oh, that's so crazy.

And then you move on to the next thing. It doesn't allow conversation. It doesn't allow – other than being amazed at how crazy those combinations are i'm not very tapped into the game world uh unless it's on console uh but like there was a version of charades where it started off as just sort of acting something out but as each round got harder there was like the same 20 things people had to act out yeah but you had less and less ability to actually emote or gesture so like first you would actually do you know proper shirt you know act it out sure then you could only just use like your face and then as it got one of the more extreme rounds is you put a sheet over

yourself and then you try and act it out with a sheet over you huh and that was just kind of got funny because you began to just pick up on like micro movements that would suggest it was this one answer. But, you know, I play that once. It works for people who are too good at celebrity. Or too comfortable in a sheet. A lot of ghosts. They just come out from under and they're naked. Yeah.

I've never played a game of celebrity that didn't include people like laughing their ass off at each other or themselves until I overturn the table. And then you're like, I don't watch less laughter. What is something you think is underrated? I have been binge listening as a podcast, all of the original episodes of Dragnet from the 1940s and 50s. And it is some of the best written drama. It's sort of the original police procedural. And people are familiar maybe with the Dan Aykroyd, Tom Hanks movie. Maybe they're familiar with the TV show. But it all started as an old-time radio show. And it is fascinating how freaking good it is.

Some of the original episodes are lost. So I'm up to about episode 80 or so out of like 250. And it's just – it's a really good police procedural. And the thing that's so fascinating about it is what they choose to dramatize and what they choose just to sort of narrate around. And it's a really good police procedural. And the thing that's so fascinating about it is what they choose to dramatize and what they choose just to sort of narrate around. And it's really dark. Like you would think, you know, even though it's also wholesome

and kind of whitewashed from that era, but there's also murders and rapes. And, you know, on one episode, they're trying to find someone's lost fur coat. And another one, there's, you know, a triple homicide in Leimert Park. And the great thing about it is it takes place in LA and so there's references to all these things

in LA that, you know, the street names that are still the same and the places that aren't there anymore. You know, they talk about the Dodgers might be coming to Los Angeles from Brooklyn. So it's just really fun and it really keeps you

into the story and even though you know that they're just in a, and it really keeps you into the story. And even though you know that they're just in a studio and someone is making sound effects and all that, it really feels like they're in their car and they're going out to the valley. And it's just really, really, really enjoyable and incredibly well acted, even though some of it's a little silly. Because, you know, basically their procedure is you find the suspect, you ask them three times, and the fourth time you say, come on, give it up. And they give it up. So there's a little bit of that.

And also my favorite thing about it also is that they could be walking down a hallway or on a beach or on a mountaintop and the footsteps sound exactly the same. It sounds like tap shoes on a board. We're walking on this linoleum floor at the beach. Yeah. But it's really, really enjoyable. And like I said, I downloaded it as a podcast and usually listen to it at night when I go into bed,

and it's outstanding. I hope I'm not repeating one that's come up a lot. I'm sure you get a lot of guests recommending old-time radio shows. Recommending Dragnet. Dragnet. Wait, so it was a radio show also? Oh, yeah. That's how Dragnet. Wait, so it was a radio show also? Oh, yeah. That's how it started.

Yeah. It started as a radio show with Jack Webb as Joe Friday. And then he also, of course, played him on TV as well. Yeah. And I think there was a movie also in the 60s as well. The TV show taught me everything I needed to know about LSD. I don't know if you've seen the Dragnet LSD episode, but. Well, there is one episode I've listened to on the radio

version where there's a suspicion of marijuana being in a high school. And so they asked this girl, like, they're trying to find the source of it, and they asked this one high school girl, you know, like, did you notice anything strange about... She's like, well, there was this strange musky smell.

And it's like, and then when I got into his car, there was also that strange musky smell. And he's like, and then when I got into his car, there was also that strange musky smell. And he was acting a little weird. Yeah, exactly. They uncover LSD use among a group of hippies in this one episode. And it ends with one of the drug-using hippies, they show up to his apartment and he's laying down.

And one of his friends is like he said he wanted to get further out and friday checks his pulse and goes well he made it he's dead oh from lsd use damn you know fucking uh csi music yeah and have a lot caruso throw sunglasses the radio the radio version is there's like, there's action. There's car chases and there's shootouts. Does it work? It really does. That's what's interesting to me about you bringing this up because we live

in a, we're sort of re-entering this sort of space again with podcasting. And then we fail to sort of even see it's like, they were fucking perfecting that shit when they only had radio. Yeah, I mean some of, you know, of course they have to narrate it a little bit. It's like, look out perfecting that shit when they only had radio. Right. Yeah. I mean, some of, you know,

of course they have to narrate it a little bit. It's like, yeah, look out, Joey's got a gun. He's shooting at you. Oh, he got me.

You know, there's a little bit of that. He's shooting the bullets in your general direction. Yeah. But like, if you can pull off a car chase on the radio and it's still exciting, I mean, that really says something.

Look out, look out. It's a woman with a baby carriage. Thank God. Wait, do you have your eyes closed? He's telling you. Sorry, I'm on LSD.

What is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? That Cleveland is not a good place to visit. I was just in Cleveland a few weekends ago, spent the weekend there. As I've mentioned on the show before, I travel a lot, often to accumulate mileage. And that was, it was a total mileage run to go to Cleveland. Really? And I had a great time.

It's really, really cool. So you went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I did. I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I stayed downtown. I walked to a baseball game. Yeah. I walked to a baseball game.

Yeah. For those maybe from in a lot of cities, that's normal. But in LA, that's unheard of. Yeah. And it's great. You know, it's, there are a lot of neighborhoods that are being re-energized. And unfortunately, a lot of those

are just like mini Portlands, which I think is a lot of the same across the country. But it's still got a lot of great personality and very walkable and gorgeous. Like you're looking over these bridges at sunset over the river and off onto the lake. And I got some incredible pictures that you would never believe that was Cleveland.

And great people and super friendly. I've always said I've never met a bad person from Cleveland. Well, there you go. So, yeah, no, it's something that even people who I met there were like, really, you came here on purpose for a vacation? Are you a Drew Carey fan? Yeah, exactly. Nope.

Yeah, no, I had no other reason to go other than, oh, it sounds cool. I hadn't been. And I guess, as I said, it was a cheap fare in need of the miles. And yeah, really, really great time. We're getting great time. As the presidents of the United States of America said, Cleveland rocks. Yeah. They did say that.

And there are some people who call it the Klee, and then other people call it the land. The land. Some people call it the Klee, huh? The Klee or the Kleeve. Interesting. The land sounds a little bit better. Yeah. But it's the kind of place where I go to a bar and people will actually talk to you.

And I met people at the baseball game. I went there alone and ended up with friends. Oh, man. Love to hear that. And the food is great. I should acknowledge that the only people I've ever met from Cleveland are the characters on the Drew Carey show. I was going to say. Yeah.

I mean, I do love those characters. Well, all the women wear heavy clown makeup. Oh, my friend Mimi. She is a hoot. She's outrageous. Gregar all the women wear heavy clown makeup. Oh, my friend Mimi, she is a hoot. She's outrageous. Gregarious. No shout out to Sean, who is a listener of the show and one of the smartest dudes I know. And he moved back to Cleveland after college and had his bachelor party in Cleveland.

And we had a great time. Walked to a baseball game. Yeah, it's great. It's great to leave a place and feel, oh, I didn't get great time. Walked to a baseball game. Yeah, it's great. It's great to leave a place and feel, oh, I didn't get to do everything I wanted to do. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to go for the food, actually. It is great.

Because I've seen so many food specials, like at the West Side Market or something, and all the food that's there. And I'm like, just get me there. The Market, some of the best ice cream I've had there. I was at Mitchell's. I went to Michael Simon, who I think is an Iron chef, has a barbecue place there that was outrageously good. All right. So, look, Ohio. Dude, we're doing the Lord's work for you.

Just fly us out. Right. You know what I mean? Was this an option? Cleveland, in particular. Yeah, but Cleveland. Cincinnati. You know, Cincinnati.

I'll check out, you know, I love Skyline. But you need someone to show you around. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. We'll need Jake Heath there as well. Exactly, yes. And any Zeit gang that's there to house us. Alright guys, let's get into

the latest on the Varsity Blues scandal. I think this is the part that we were all waiting for, which is the sentencing. The justice bumper. That's the law and order sound, but done terribly. I think we're nailing it.

We should be filed under music podcast at this point we might get sued for copyright infringement just for my vocal stylings but felicity huffman her lawyers are asking that she just served probation and community service and a twenty thousand dollar fine yeah but the prosecution is like we're thinking you know embrace yourself a month in jail right um and you know i think there are people who are who want more want less clearly her lawyers think 20 250 hours of community service and twenty thousand dollars is good enough but i don't i don't um i think i don't necessarily desire for her to be in jail for an extended period of time necessarily 30 days days seems kind of right.

Am I wrong? Sure. It seemed about right to me. I think there's ways, though, to tell these people that you fucked up majorly. That doesn't just, because I think when she was on Desperate Housewives, she was making somewhere near like $400,000 an episode. What's $20,000? That's not an effective deterrent.

Well, that's not even close to what she actually paid the guy to help the kid get in I think it's $15,000 She paid $15,000 and thought that was going to get her kid into college? No no it was $15,000 just to arrange that fake test score because her kid had the janky proctor

Other people were like you know Lori Loughlin I think was on the hook for half a million. Right. Okay. So that's why she is a little bit of a different case. But anyway, and Lori Loughlin, not guilty, as she says. Good luck with that trial.

But like, you know, with this, I think, yeah, the fines could be greater or do something that, you know, if you're going to put that money in to take the opportunity from someone else, I think you have to make amends in a much greater way. Start a scholarship with like a million dollars for underprivileged kids. Yeah, at the very least. The sort of people whose spot you are taking. But I do think you should have a little jail time. I don't think it needs to be huge. One month is fine. Or even a couple.

If she agrees to do the community service and establish a scholarship or something, I think some jail time is appropriate. Because I think at the end of the day, you want these people to be like, oh, maybe we should just, you know, gallivant to San Tropez on a yacht for vacation. Be like, oh, that's right. We took a $3 million hit last year. Maybe we need to rethink that because we fucked up because we were trying to game the college admission system in a different way. But no, she doesn't do any jail time and just does the probation and all that. Is she still a felon? Are you still a convicted felon if you're admitting to a plea deal?

I don't know if she – Because I want her to be a felon. Yeah, why not? I mean, you know, she could be up there. But yeah, again, I think it's seemingly a light touch. But again, when you – but just hear her out because there are people who – her lawyers are like, look, you know, she was in a real tough spot when this guy came up to her and told her that her daughter, based on her own academic merit and ability, was unfit to get into the school she

wanted to apply to or enter. She had no choice. It's like, what? And then her whole quote was from Huffman, I think during a deposition or one of these procedures said, quote, I felt an urgency which built to a sense of panic that there was this huge obstacle in the way that needed to be fixed for my daughter's sake. As warped as it sounds now, I honestly began to feel that maybe I would be a bad mother if I didn't do what Mr. Singer was suggesting, which was to cheat on her test. That is good parenting to teach your kids that anything can be bought and that you just... And it's, you know, I understand where she's coming from, but she still made the wrong choice. Right. Yeah.

I have empathy for her for wanting... The best for your child. Exactly. Yeah, you want the best for your child, but you also can't, like, teach them that they can just buy their way out of anything. I felt guilty that my dad was able to afford an SAT tutor for me. I felt that was exposing the privilege that I had, and I felt that that was at the expense of people who couldn't. And are primed to enter that environment of taking a test like that.

It turned out my dad was just being a cheapskate. Yeah, right. It's like, what the fuck? You could have paid for someone else to take the was just being a cheapskate. Yeah, right. It's like, what the fuck? You could have paid for someone else to take the test for me? He explored his options. Yeah.

He was like, oh, 15K. Shit. All right, guys. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese

investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate my name is Manuel Delia I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption

that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.

Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.

Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come

here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better

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your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,

where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.

People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way

we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

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They are... I know. Not white. Yep. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. He got mad at an MSNBC story that didn't give him enough credit for being... For freeing A$AP Rocky?

Yeah, basically. For prison reform. And not just a story, like an hour-long special on a Sunday night. Right. Lester Holt went to prison, right, was the whole thing? Yeah, I think John Legend's... The Legend thing was... ...tweet was pretty good.

He said, imagine being the president of a whole country and spending your Sunday night hate-watching MSNBC,ing somebody, anybody will praise you. And Melania, please praise this man. He needs you. I just like how Chrissy Teigen, as her name is actually said, and we were shook to our core. No, apparently she just got tired of correcting people. She's like, it's Teigen, but honestly, I don't care anymore.

Right. I was like, whoa, come on, stand up for your name uh was when she called him a pussy ass bitch that was pretty good well so that's how that was her response correct yeah i guess to all this i mean i knew something happened but when i just saw the headline chrissy tigan to president trump pussy ass bitch i was like that's all i need to know yeah she i mean that was her response to him calling her foul-mouthed and not even mentioning fact that he wouldn't mention her name or at her because presumably he saw that follower account, saw the amount of love that's out there.

Oh, boy. Thought he would get away with beating up on Van Jones. I just, oh, man. I wish he tried to actually show up for a smoke show with chrissy teigen because i feel like he would have his whole skull ripped off on twitter and it would be a l he could never come back from yeah it's but that's why he didn't at her and she was even saying in true twitter you know beef style like you couldn't even at me son meanwhile his alabama hurricane fuck up has continued to kind of linger.

The National Weather Service chief came out on Monday in full support of the local meteorologists who contradicted the president's, you know, dangerous panic inducing tweet. And the president has continued to suggest he was right. And apparently the National Weather Service has had been applying like pressure downward for people not to come out and like say anything about the controversy or, you know, contradict the president in any way. A source who spoke to Gizmodo said, this is the first time I've felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast. It's hard for me to wrap my head around. One of the things we train on is to dispel inaccurate rumors, and ultimately that is what was occurring.

Ultimately what the Alabama office did is provide a forecast with their tweet. That is what they get paid to do. And weather has officially entered the trump zone where this is but the chief scientist of the national oceanic atmospheric administration came out as like i'm gonna actually investigate what the fuck happened here because this just smacks of a political thing because they had to come out and be like actually he was right right uh but then but the chief scientist like that's fucking a terrible thing to come out and have to say something like that because our whole the service we provide is giving people

accurate information in potentially dangerous situations for people when it comes to inclement weather so it's like to then come out and do all this other stuff in service of this you know obsessed president he was like it's just a danger to public safety yeah and it's like yeah i mean that's what i wanted to say also it's like i know it's easy to He was like, it's just a danger to public safety. Yeah. And it's like, yeah. I mean, that's what I wanted to say also. It's like, I know it's easy to make fun of because it's so bizarre. Yeah, the sharpie and all that. But like, this is a really big step towards

A, being anti-science and anti-fact and all that. But yeah, just as far as public safety. I mean, if there's, you know, there were people in Alabama probably who needed to know, should I evacuate or not? Should I get my grandmother out of the nursing home or not? And he, you know, and because of his own ego, we can't get a straight answer on all that. I mean, let's say there's next time an emergency that isn't predictable

and we're going to need reliable facts and he's going to say whatever is the most convenient for him or save face. It's a real dangerous step, even though it also is freaking ridiculous. Even though like on paper, you'd be like, I'm probably going to go with whatever the scientists are saying versus Trump. The fact that you have two competing narratives to somebody who's

not as savvy could potentially be confused and be like, well, which one do I believe now? Yeah, and the presidents came first. I mean, he was like, Alabama wasn't in any danger. They knew the storm was going to be too far east to affect Alabama. And he said, Alabama is going to get hit worse than expected.

And think of what that means for people there. I mean, maybe they leave their job and don't get paid for that day because they've got to go prepare their home or they've got to, you know, they've got to go buy gas. They've got to go buy supplies. This really affects people. And again, thank goodness it wasn't the opposite. He said he didn't say something wasn't going to happen, but you could totally see that happening the exact same way. Imagine if it was the opposite where he said he kept insisting Florida's not going to get hit or Bahamas isn't going to get hit, and then they do. Right. The tweet that is causing all the controversy, not from him, but the one contradicting him was just like, guys, don't worry. Alabama is safe. We're not going to get it. It's just such a straightforward thing. It's like, how is this controversial? How is this still a thing?

I didn't say Alabama. How did he not just say, sorry about Alabama? I said Alhambra. Oops, my bad. It's not Alabama. How did he not just say, sorry about Alabama? I said, my bad. It's not Alabama. I saw one theory that, uh, that said he got confused because he read some piece of paper that said all Bahamas.

Right. Oh, and that somehow in his head, that's how we got the idea that Alabama, but even then he wouldn't even be able to admit that now. Right. He's like, no,

of course not. And it's like, Oh no, you fucking poor moron. I mean, there, no, not poor him fuck there is that uh there is that samantha b piece that is supposed to be a joke about how he can't read uh

that is wildly convincing when you look at like all the all the different people who have like worked with him and like different depositions where he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not going to read that sentence. And Pete Davidson saying on SNL he couldn't read the cue cards. So, Miles, we have a little bit more insight into when the president early, what seems like decades ago, early in his presidency, kind of yucked it up with Russian officials after the next day after firing James Cohen. Pretty much the next day. There was that photo of Sergey Lavrov and Sergey Kislyak. So the foreign minister and former ambassador, respectively, were like in the Oval Office fucking yucking it up. And people people like, what the fuck is going on? Right. And the story that came out at that time is that Trump may have revealed some kind of intelligence gathering source because he was sharing information that we had collected on like ISIS in Syria that had come from like an Israeli intelligence source or something like that.

And at the time, it was sort of the beginning of like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Like, right. Did he literally just have Russians, the Oval Office, share some kind of like secret intelligence and then just kept it moving? And, you know, at the time, it was just like one of the, you know, many of that exchange, like a lot of the intelligence officials in the U.S. got concerned about a very deep intelligence asset they had in the Russian government and had to extract them like very quickly because they're like, oh, fuck. Like, even though this specific information that was revealed at this meeting didn't have anything to do with them, they like we don't even want them to connect tangentially they're like get them the fuck out which is extreme because that's like an extreme remedy than maybe just summoning them somewhere else it's like no we're gonna have to pull this person out to make sure nothing terrible happens to them and that was sort of the byproduct of his show and tell party uh in the oval Right. And it's just sort of like mounting evidence or just sort of adding to the narrative that, you know, the intelligence community

has a just deep distrust for him. Not even that, like when he's sharing, like, you know, missile launch photos, like they're just like, you know, cool DMs to share with everybody. It's kind of weird because in a way we kind of need this sort of deep state to happen, but I think it's happening,

you know, because of him rather than, you know, as a, I don't know what I'm trying to say. No, I'm trying to say that the conspiracy about the deep state was that he was part of it and that it was, but really it's becoming an offshoot. It's becoming necessary to create one because he's so out of control. Yeah, and he's irresponsible with any information he has. That's what I was trying to say. And then, yeah, his temperament then too on top of it. It's like, you don't know how close we are to some disastrous decision.

It's so weird, though, that now people on the left are like, oh, thank God there's rogue intelligence agents to protect us from the president. I mean, the fact that James Comey was lionized by the left for a little while is pretty wild. Yeah. Based on everything else, literally everything else that he's ever done. Right. Other than be fired by Trump and have a feud with him. But that was the logic Jared Kushner thought was going to be good. He's like, yeah, fire him and then the Democrats will like you.

He's like, dude, what? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the shit show at the Fuck Factory, Miles. Hey, shout out to Succession. Shout out to Succession. Shout out to Succession. Just started watching that show. The Atlantic has a new report on a sort of mini Cold War that's brewing between Ivanka and her brother, Donald Jr.

Yeah. It's a fucking wild read. It has so much interesting background it's just it's you know over the course of many interviews with aides and friends and people around it they were sort of kind of understanding this their their relationship between don jr and his sister was evolving in a becoming more and more adversarial as time goes on um and because now since he's become president trump is now president The two kids are like really desperate to impress their father in any way possible. But it seems like there's sort of

two games happening. There's one with Ivanka and Jared. They're doing it. They're playing a more like inside game where they want to just get as much influence in the city and in the administration as possible. And from there, cement a place for their future if they choose to move on to a political hustle, if you will. And then Don Jr. just wants daddy's affection. Right. So it's happening in two different ways. But at the end of the day, they both want their father's approval. So the backdrop that it's all set up against is really interesting.

Apparently, this is um like you know through these interviews and books and other things they said uh that essentially donald senior cultivated a darwinian dynamic in the family on ski trips when they raced down the mountain trump would jab at his children with a pole to get ahead of them his favorite fatherly maxim was don't trust anyone and he liked to test his children by asking whether they trusted him. If they said yes, they were reprimanded. Yep. The weirdest part is that none of that seems out of character.

No. And it's starting to make sense, right? Because you're like, oh, of course. If that's what's being put through your head, you'll never trust anyone or feel for anyone because everyone is out to get you, right? If everyone's out to get you, you can anyone or feel for anyone because everyone is out to get you right if everyone's out to get you you should you can never feel bad for anyone um and then from there like it got worse apparently when ivana trump and donald split and he left uh ivana for marlon maples they both hated their father for basically what he had done to their mother and how he

treated her and how he handled the whole thing but But the two kids... He cheated on her in public and then leaked stories about how he cheated on her to the page six of the New York Post. Yes, exactly. In addition to abusing her, you know, and I think all of that. But then the kids handled that their separate way. Don, who was 12 at the time, was angry. He said, this is again through these interviews, quote, how can you say you love us? He reportedly spat during an argument and refused to talk to him for a year. Eight-year-old Ivanka was afraid of what she might

lose in the divorce, blah, blah, blah. But in the years that followed, Don seemed to define himself in opposition to his father. Trump loved golf, so Don stayed off the links. Trump was a teetotaler, so Don drank heavily. People from his frat and college said he was drinking heavily. He was drinking himself into a really dark place, said one former frat brother, who recalled Don breaking down in tears at a party as he talked about his father. He hated what his dad did to his mom. For a while, he didn't even want people to know his last name. And then Ivanka, on the other side, got closer during that period

and visited him every day after school. She just went to the office and began to pride herself by saying, like, he'll always take my call. He'll he'll interrupt a meeting to take my call. And so that was sort of the backdrop to of them, like starting to compete with each other. And it just gets fucking wackier and darker as things go on, because there was a I think around last year, November, there's a McClatchy report about how someone was describing how, like, Don Jr. wows as Ivanka disappoints was the headline. And they began to be like, oh, see, they're leaking shit about us and blah, blah, blah. And they had a confrontation where he's like, tell your people to stop trashing me to the media.

Oh, Ivanka said that to Don Jr. Oh, shit. And then this whole time, they just talk about Eric who's just like and Eric likes to stay out of it Eric likes to play with socks yeah essentially he's just like at the you know at the at the Mar-a-Lago running the organization and just not really knowing what to do yeah I mean it doesn't based on you know whenever you read kind of insider like deeply reported insider reports of what it's like in the white house you are always hearing about how like surprisingly influential uh jared and ivanka are based like surprising because they don't have roles but they're just still wielding those

yeah i mean like she's technically an official advisor. Right. But that gives them the freedom to just kind of roam and like go into different places and just, you know, have their impact felt. It's like having, they're like the Roombas of the white. Right.

Yeah. They're like an extra, having an extra person on like a basketball court and you're just getting to like run around and block anyone because you don't have a man to guard. You don't have an official position, so you just get to do what you want. And yeah, you don't hear much about Don Jr.

other than stories about the president being like, my son's a fucking idiot. There was another thing in there in the Atlantic article where they're talking about how when he was born or when ivana was pregnant uh with don jr she told she's like what why don't we name him donald and he's like what if he's a loser right was his first response to that yeah so he's very and that's just you can tell in their relationship and also don jr's desperation to impress him that's why apparently during the campaign, Ivanka stayed behind the scenes because her dad was even like,

she's got an image. Yeah. She's been tending to that. You are a fucking idiot. Ivanka's image is more important than this run for the White House and the future of the United States. I mean, that's, so over the weekend,

Trump's 2020 campaign manager predicted a multi-decade Trump dynasty, saying that he and his family are all amazing people. So, I mean, basically, that is how they're thinking about it. How do they define the dynasty exactly? That just because he was president once, now that name is going to have so much like cachet everyone probably think everyone but tiffany that's how they find the she's trying to be a lawyer so they do say that tiffany and baron are lucky because they had a much different upbringing than the eric don ju and ivanka right like where he wasn't like making it like creating this toxic family environment it's like like, why don't you stab your brother?

See if he's tough enough. That kind of thing where it's, I think maybe it was just normal neglect. Right. It's more like having a grandparent, like being a grandparent at this stage for him. He doesn't need to be like overly involved in their lives. You know, I hope Baron can end up a decent human, but yeah. Good luck to you, sir. All right, we're going to take another quick break.

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This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Apple having a big week. The Apple card is newly out. The new iPhone is going to be revealed this week. And the coolest thing I've seen out of those two news items is that you can sharpen your Apple card to turn it into a knife.

Wait, what? Yeah, because it's like titanium or whatever, some sort of metal that works, you can just sharpen it pretty easily. Was a guy just filing it like on a proper grinding wheel or just like no he just used uh he he used uh sandpaper and like wet the sandpaper and then just like kind of sharpened it to be fair you can make a knife out of anything i've gone into these youtube uh black holes where there's this there's this guy in japan who will

make a knife out of like packing tape or out of like cardboard and all that. So I'm not terribly surprised. Yeah. Prisoners have done amazing things. If you ever want to look up like things people have been killed with in prison and like. Please stop sending your credit cards to prisoners. Yes.

It's pretty cool. That's like. Well, because it looks dangerous. Like it's kind of cool. Well, it sounds already like a thin blade. Right. And now you can be like Steven Seagal in The Glimmer Man. Right.

I don't know if you remember that scene. He cuts a dude's throat with a credit card. Does he? Yeah, like these dudes trying to rob him, and he's like, oh, yeah, here's my credit card, and straight up slits this dude's throat. I don't know why the first thing I thought of was like, that's Steven Seagal scene in The Glimmer Man. Well, because it's a ridiculous thing. But also I'm more, yeah, I'm just more in my head.

I'm like, why do I remember shit from The Glimmer Man? I'm into the credit card and points and miles game. So I have a lot of different credit cards. And so this, the heavy metal credit card has been a thing for, I don't know, the last five years or so. I do not understand what the benefit or advantage of it is. It's so you can feel like you're doing something important. Yeah, the last five years or so. I do not understand what the benefit or advantage of it is.

It's so you can feel like you're doing something important. The whole reason to have it is so that the waiter or the shopkeeper says, oh, heavy. Oh, right. Whoa, heavy ball sack there, sir. You're right. Oh, no small penis person could have a car this heavy. Now please ring up my Viagra.

I wonder if there's something like unconscious about the fact that money is all basically imaginary numbers in a system now. So we like want them to have some heft. Tangible. Yeah. But you have that with the plastic. Give me something tangible. Because you get these metal cards, you can't shred them. So if you close your account or if you have to change cards or whatnot, you have to send

it back in. No, you just turn it into a knife. Or you turn it into a knife. You know what I've meant? Never have to buy another knife. I've not been repurposing them. You said you're heavy into the credit card mileage points? Yes.

I mean, I know you clearly care about miles, but do you have a system that you use for your purchases to optimize your point output? I do. So I probably have about 20 different credit cards or something. Are you for real? Yeah. Yes. Wow.

Well, especially when I was very heavy into the game. I mean, that's nothing for people who- Heavy into the game. Into the game. Into the hobby. I'm not the my points guy or whatever that one account is. I'm not the points. I have written for the points guy, but I'm not the points guy.

Oh, got it, got it. But no, there are people who have a whole system with a spreadsheet where they know that, okay, if you apply for this card, then you maximize it out to this. And then 18 months later, you can get this one. There are people who really do that. I've gotten a little more sane for myself. So I've gotten my basics that I know I've got to get. I've got to spend this much on this card in order to get my status on this airline, and then the rest of it, I'm going to maximize this because I get this many points for restaurants,

so I'm always going to put my restaurant purchases on this one and stuff like that. So, yes, I've got a little system. And the Apple card has no place in it. Has no place in it. Right. No point, so what's the point? I think you do get some percentage cash back on there, but it's not a great value. Yeah, yeah. But I think it's for the...

There's Uber stuff. My friend got one. A friend of mine got one when I think was one of the first to get him. And I asked him why, and he's like, because it's cool. Look, it's white. It's white, and I can attach it to this. Yeah, yeah. That's an empty can. Which is why it's such brilliant marketing, it's white. It's white and I can attach it to this. That's an empty can.

Which is why it's such brilliant marketing because they're getting people who weren't looking necessarily to get a new credit card to get that. A couple of weeks ago when they first started rolling them out, we wrote up about this, like the Apple support page

just for the credit card because it stains very easily. They're like, don't put it in contact with leather or denim. I was like, what the fuck are you going to do with this? In other words, your pocket? Just hold it out in front of me.

Yeah. No, he was surprised that he used it on the first time and it scratched. Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people were like,

what the fuck? Right. Because I, again, when it's Apple, you want the shiny new thing, but guess what? Something like that.

Steve Jobs was alive. He wouldn't let it scratch. Right. I've never seen. Distressed Apple wear. I've never seen one fucking credit card that doesn't look like shit or like begins to wear down within three times of being swiped right so like i'm surprised they didn't invest more and like being like and it's gonna look fucking sick the whole time right there's

no are there no numbers on the apple card it's not it's like it's rotating or whatever oh isn't it randomized that i'm not sure, yeah, it almost seems like the way Steve Jobs was like, no buttons. Right, right, right. They're like, no anything that credit cards are used for. Yeah, it randomizes the actual card number. Oh, wow. I think that's when you connect, yeah, when you use it with the app, I think. When you use it with the app.

Yeah, so that way they just want to make it as difficult as possible for somebody to take your fucking card and spend a hundred dollars at a gas station in northridge right as far as the new iphone they're working on a folding iphone an iphone with a laser guided 3d time of flight camera i don't even know what the fuck that means uh one with in display fingerprint sensor and those are all slated for 2020 or beyond this one is just gonna have a bigger camera that's basically it damn i've the flights whatever use that combination of words was impressive yeah there's time of flight laser guided and in display fingerprint sensor what is i have been wondering guided time of

like to like i have no idea. I've been turning that over in my mind for a while. I think it's to help the focus of the camera. I think that it maybe uses something in motion or whatever. Oh, time of flight. Okay, that makes more sense. I thought it was to remember your airbrush. I think it's to capture things in motion.

So if you want to get a still photo of something in motion, using a laser, it'll figure out where the thing is so it won't be blurry. I'm guessing it's that. Yeah. Or it's another way of paying for tacos. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the camera seems to be the main thing that they can keep making better.

Everything else seems like it's about the same. I have an iPhone X. I don't really see anything that means like, oh, shit. Yeah. Okay. Because before that, I had an Apple iPhone 4 that was just rot like, Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. Cause before that I had an Apple iPhone, like four that was just rotting. It started to smell.

Okay. I'm not gonna lie. The phone started to smell. I don't know why. I don't know if you have noticed this. I have a laptop, an old Mac laptop that also has started to smell. Oh yeah.

If you have any answers on that, please let me know. But yeah, I think even now I'm like, I don't know how much you can really iterate on this where we're like, Oh, we've okay. Now we're in 2020. Right? Yeah. I think even now, I'm like, I don't know how much you can really iterate on this where we're like, oh, we've, okay, now we're in 2020. Right.

Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that would be great is if they could, like, double the battery life or something. But nobody has created a better battery since the first iPhone. Like, it's all basically the same. And the battery makes up most of the body of your camera. same and the battery makes up most of the body of your camera like that's why the uh pluses have longer battery life because they just have bigger batteries i mean yeah it was portrait mode is really the the end end end of the road for me yeah like i after that after seeing one person use portrait mode i was like oh this will be cool yeah four times yeah portrait mode is great that's

one of the great innovations. It probably, it helps. I noticed for people with kids, they actually have good photos of their kids. Yeah. Before on these other shits, it was like cool.

There is not a good picture of me before the age of like 20. I don't think. Right. Yeah. So like, yeah, there's like, it's not a good photo.

Like, like my son has like so many good pictures of him. I know. I have to look through... Constantly. It's a double-edged sword though, you know? Like everything's... All that history is available now for these kids and exists forever. Yeah.

But I mean, shit, again. Yeah. Most of my pictures of me as a kid are just me squinting. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Super bright. Squinting, like... Being uncomfortable.

I've got weird poly knits on. Yeah, or it's like me with like my pupils heavily dilated at a high school football game or something wearing a candy necklace. You can't blame the phone. You can't blame the camera for that. Hey, man, look, man, when you're partying, you party. Actually, I was in band at a high school football game. I was always in the stands.

Nice. But I would drink in the stands you would drink while do it while yeah i remember when our football team got really good my senior year i got real reckless and on trips i had a fake id that i made them on myself on photoshop i was from new jersey yeah and i would buy bacardi and i would i would take a two liter bottle of coke and do 50 50 rum and cokes basically so i would have this two liter just lit tank that I would pass around the back of the bus. It almost got in deep shit. When a security guard tried to stop me from running on the field drunk.

And they're like, are you drinking? I'm like, no man, I got to go. And I fucking like ran back in the crowd. Wow. Anyway,

story time with miles. Let's talk about impossible meat. There's like sort of a, an online backlash brewing sort of thing. Like people are talking about how impossible meat and beyond meat has the same calories and fat and more salt than real meat. And basically treating it like a health food that people are being fooled by. Yeah, I don't know if people... I don't necessarily see it as like eating that stuff because it's healthier. I do it because it's not as...

There's not much of an impact on the environment. Right. And I can still pretend I'm eating fucking beef. Yeah. And I also just feel better afterwards generally than I do if I like... Well, that's the difference. Also, there's fiber in these vegan patties that isn't in in real beef and it's just not as hard to digest as meat no so no like that's I don't know I also am skeptical of stories any story that is this seems to be

making the rounds like NBC news and Fox news and CNBC where it seems like it's like a mainstream media story and I feel like those sorts of outlets have long-standing relationships with big advertisers and you know the this is these products are obviously threatening a established order of things right it's kind of what always happens anytime there's a new dietary wonder you know it, it's like when NutraSweet first came out, people thought, oh, it has no health of a benefit. Right. Risks at all.

Right. And then, oh, therefore, you can eat a thousand candies with this and still not realizing that there's the calories and the fat and everything. A lot of those are like the NutraSweet thing was like the cancer risk was actually greatly exaggerated. They were feeding like what would be to us bucket loads of NutraSweet to the rats to give them the cancer. Is NutraSweet saccharin? No, no. Aspartame.

Oh, aspartame. Aspartame. Yes, yes. But, you know, or even like when baked lays came out, everyone thought, oh, this is the solution to all of our problems. No, no. Remember with the Elastra ones too. Yeah, yeah.

The wow chips. Where everyone had projectile shit themselves. Yeah. Like, oh, it's new with Olean. Yeah. Yeah. People always overdo it or don't realize that there's still other elements in it that, you know, depending on what your diet is, work and don't work.

But I haven't tried one yet. I'm curious to try it. Well, because I think also too, the attack is like, well, it's all this processed food man like now this is a processed meat it's like well most food is processed on some level right it's the additive and bullshit ingredients that like we're sort of conflating with the quote-unquote processed foods that are the bad ones you know versus you know anything that has to go through a process to be made right um but the dairy yeah i mean it's like the dairy farmers being like can't milk an almond like well watch me yeah because we just did motherfucker find a

new angle they have they're paying the best advertising minds in new york millions and millions of dollars every year to come up with like the best way to shit on these products. And that's where you end up getting like, well, this cancer study, like people don't trust chemically altered like imitation foods. So let's focus on this one cancer study that says if you feed a rat, it's weight and NutraSweet on a daily basis, it gets cancer. Like what's the beef council? How are they even advertising right now? Because I remember it used to be like beef is what's for dinner.

But like it's been quiet for them like in this new era. So I guess is there a strategy just to like sort of behind the scenes just take a shit on these meat interlopers? I should say I have no evidence to say that these NBC stories are like being planted or anything. No, no, no. But I'm saying as, but like any industry, you would have an, like some kind of marketing plan to shield yourself from this other product that's coming out. Whether you do that very underhandedly or just try and be, do new advertiser or advertising that's like beef.

It's how your kid will get smarter. Right. Or some shit. Yeah. beef it's how your kid will get smarter right some shit yeah um but i think like anything you you've got to investigate what's in it and how that affects you know the way that you eat and what your health is yeah the same isn't the same for everybody yeah uh i would i would also like to see like a product by product side by side of like what what the health changes are just because i i could also see this being a thing where like a couple of the products

are the same but most of them are actually better for you but we shall see well yeah i mean we all know taco bell's healthy for you yes talk about it's great for you find a new angle and their ground beef is a quality meat is is a quality meat not's a meat-less. Let's say a witch quality. It's some kind of a organic flesh compound. They've been making fake meat for years, fooling us. That's like a Jay Leno take. You guys read about this? Let's talk about clowns, scary clowns. Are you coulrophobic?

No, not at all. I don't really have just racist yeah i i have been i have been interested in in looking at old tv from the 50s like clowns were breakfast cereal mascots yeah everyone loved the clown yeah they fucking loved them and it seems very strange to me because they they do seem like scary like inherently not like a thing that children would like well it's someone who is painted themselves to convey an emotion that they might not be experiencing underneath right and duplicitous they can't be trusted and they're disgusting and they're a danger to society and i mean that kind of is the general take is it seems

like people are like fuck clowns, clowns are scary so it's not super surprising but it is interesting to me that they're still so salient that It Chapter 2 set the record for biggest September opening and biggest horror movie opening

outpaced only by It Chapter 1 and then also the Venice Film film festival gave out its awards at the end of the festival and the golden lion uh which has been given to movies like uh rashomon brokeback mountain and roma went to the joker movie joker which is pretty wild it's pretty big departure for a comic book movie to get the award, even though this is apparently less comic book movie than taxi driver-influenced character study. But clowns are still a powerful symbol, apparently.

I don't know why. Is it because there's a generation of us who absolutely did not like clowns? I feel like baby boomers like my dad i've seen like photos of like his room as a kid and there was like clown shit yeah like i remember my grandparents house they would have some clown shit up and i'm like this is fucking weird yeah no my grandma collected clowns right and then like maybe maybe then our parents weren't so into the clowns and then now we're like full-on like yo clowns are fucked up and weird yeah like i don't know if it's is it is it a the passage of time is it just purely because we or or maybe we're introduced to more examples of clowns being like possibly weird with like

john wayne gacy art or like other shit yeah it does seem like a it's tapping into maybe something like it's just such a break from the past, like how I inherently respond to a clown versus how like my grandmother collected them and thought they were like cute. Like little ceramic clown. Maybe I'm in the minority. I find clowns neither scary nor entertaining. Right. I just find them kind of there. All right.

It's not just not for me. I'm ambivalent. I don't necessarily like get upset at the clown, but I'm also like, I'm like, i'm like okay fine why did you know i've known people who are like coulrophobic right and i fucked up around them because i didn't take it seriously right till you make someone cry yeah uh because you show them like a wild montage with clowns uh cut into it unexpectedly uh and you know i'm sorry you got a jump scare from a did I did from a co-worker and I had to apologize I didn't realize what had happened but like in a way

to me I didn't take it serious I'm like yeah yeah you're doing that thing where like culturally you hate clowns and I was like oh no you have a full-on phobia take people's phobias seriously

yeah well it was you know it was earlier times no I've done that too I once I had a friend in college who was, had a like visceral reaction to the word cotton balls. And, uh, I was like,

Oh yeah. Right. And said it like a bunch of times. And she was like, like really, it really fucked her up. Um, anyways,

we're just called two horrible people. Yes. Now host a podcast, but it's still like, why is the Joker? The character that has brought out like some of the best performances in film? It's just interesting to me that a clown bad guy would be the character that draws these iconic performances out

when that as a cultural symbol has become sort of irrelevant or maybe it's just been co-opted. I don't know. Symbolically, I think it really sums up like the waning influence of like white men in America. Yeah. I'm wondering if that's like culturally or historically. Just in general too, like a clown, right? Like most of the time this character is an impotent man who isn't achieving at the rate of the other men around him and then puts on a face to obscure that inner failure. And then resorts to, again, I talk about this all the time, when you feel powerless, if you cannot create, then you will destroy. And that's the next way you can feel potent is by saying, well, if I can't build the things I want, I can destroy the things

around me with great effectiveness, which is another thing the Joker well, if I can't build the things I want, I can destroy the things around me with great effectiveness, which is another thing the Joker does. So I don't know. There's like, you know, there's many layers, I think, to just sort of like what the Joker could be to somebody. Yeah, that was pretty,

that was great analysis. Yeah, good job, man. I don't know, y'all. I just think it's because they're cute. I don't know, his laugh's weird. He's got a red nose. What? But also, too, shout out to Clownzo, too.

I recently saw a clowning show, like proper French clowning. That really is an art form. I think if people got in touch with that style of clowning, maybe we would respect our clowns. Baskets was a good show. Is it actually funny, the French clowning that you saw? Or is it just more like an apocalypse? Well, because they all have different emotions.

So there are ones. It was more impressive to me as performance, like what the clowns can symbolize and the facets of our humanity. Well, shit, man. That sounds pretty weird. Anyway, it's pretty weird. You should go, man. Jay Keith, it's been a you should go man Jay Keith

it's been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist you had me on your show that's right not too long ago that's right you were a guest

on Go Fact Yourself that episode is available now yeah it just came out yeah it just came out on Friday so it was a lot of fun it was so fun

you can go to gofactorpod.com wherever you get podcasts it was you versus Jenna Friedman and I'm not going to say who won, but your topic was Jaws 2. Yes. People should know. If you're a topic, then you must have won.

I got to meet the writer of Jaws 2, less importantly, also the writer of Jaws, but mainly he is the writer of Jaws 2. That's going to be on his tombstone. Did you know that you were going to meet the writer? No, I had no idea. I didn't even know. So I've given Jaws 2 Wu-Tang Clan albums, like solo albums between 36 Chambers and Wu-Tang Forever. Rocky IV.

Rocky IV, yeah. And I didn't know which of those it was going to be. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. And they wouldn't tell me. I tried really hard. I showed up at Jakey's house. Banging on the door at 3 a.m. We were having game night, though.

We couldn't let him in. Yeah, oh, shit. Reveal the topic, coward! But yeah, and then that was pretty wild. And it was awesome. You get some insight into questions all of you have always had about Jaws 2. So where else can people find you? So GoFactorPod and GoFactorPod.com.

And then on Twitter and Instagram and all that, it's at GoFactorPod. And then I'm at J underscore Keith. And I want to say that every time I've been here, I've mentioned a place that I'm going, and I've ended up meeting Zyte Gang people there. So first time I met people in Charlotte, which was awesome. And then last time I was here, I mentioned I was going to Sydney. I ended up meeting with a couple of people at a bar in Sydney, which was really cool.

I wish I had, I don't have, my next upcoming trip is Brazil, but not until November. So we have time for all the people in South Palo. Brazilian Zyte Gang. Oh, yeah, the Paulistas come out. Hit us up. Ah, okay. So we have time, all the people in South Palo. Brazilian Zeitgang. Oh yeah, the Paulistas come out. Hit us up. Hit them up. It's really fun.

And it's nice, you know, I love meeting people when I travel and I'm often traveling solo. So it's really, really cool to do that. And we just did a couple of live shows of Go Fact Yourself in Chicago.

And one of the people who showed up was wearing a Daily Night Guys t-shirt. Nice. See that? Zeitgang is out here, man. I appreciate it very much. As you say, when you're here, you're family. You do say that.

Can I get some more breadsticks? Yes. Also, Hospitaliano. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying by any chance? Well, I love Daniel Dale's tweets following him fact check the president. And he had one that was just so, again, every once in a while, you just realize how crazy it is. So, okay.

So apparently Trump tweeted this thing about Mark Sanford now is going to run in the primary and all that. And he made a reference to Mark Sanford, how he was found in Argentina with his flaming dancer friend. And I couldn't figure out what a flaming dancer was. And Daniel Dill says, by flaming dancer, the president means flamingo dancer, though it's flamenco. Though there's no evidence the woman in question, a former journalist, has ever been a flamenco dancer. Right. So I just love how Cold Stone accurate and journalistic he is and yet also pointing out all this absurdity. And he'll point out like just different things that Trump says that indicates this is about to be a lie.

This is the 36th time he said this. So Daniel Dale, it's at D Dale 8. He was at the Toronto Star, now he's at CNN. It's just a great follow. Just sober and matter of fact, and also just makes you realize how crazy all this is, but also makes you feel a little more sane for somebody fact-checking it and realizing, okay, I'm not crazy for seeing that this is crazy. It's always nice to have that voice. Miles, where can people find you?

Just a funny thing about Mark Sanford. I remember when he was, I think when he was having to resign from being governor of South Carolina, there was some affair thing going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he referred to some, I think it was his basement or a friend's basement he was hiding out in as Jurassic Park. Oh, really? Yeah, and we'd call it Jurassic Park.

It was just like, he said it really out of nowhere. And people were like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like you're talking, you've been laying low from the press because you've been in fucking Jurassic Park, which is someone's basement.

Anyway. By the way, my date for tonight just canceled. Oh, son of a bitch. Fuck. Well,

then we can go to Los Feliz. Let's meet up at Alcove. Let's do it. Okay. I don't know what any of that means. Miles, where can people, like I don't know.

Alcove's a great date spot. Huge garden, big portions. Bakery. Bakery. Man, a slice of cake there will set your blood sugar back a few, whatever things you can set your blood sugar back. For me, yes, Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. A tweet that I'm liking is from Michael Tannenbaum at IamTannenbaum.

This says, every Mindhunter episode, Holden, did you kill her? Kill her. Nope. Holden, we heard your dick game was weak sauce. Kill her. I killed her and ate her arm for breakfast. That dragnet technique still works today. Yeah, man.

It's a slight variation. That dragnet technique still works today. Yeah, man. It's a slight variation. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Bigidiot at www.vvvv.www tweeted, vibing so hard to imagine dragons radioactive, I take a corner going too fast in my 1998 PT Cruiser and roll my car, instantly killing my wife and children.

I don't know why that made me laugh out loud. Because it's so vivid, and somehow you don't have empathy for this character. You're just like, yeah, you would fucking roll your fucking car. And also, like, that's probably happened. Like, we don't know what causes fatal car accidents. Like, maybe someone was vibing too hard. He vibed too hard to react. happened. We don't know what causes fatal car accidents. Maybe someone was vibing too hard.

Maybe a song that was just too lit came out the day before and that's why a fatal car accident spiked. We don't know. We don't know. And AlienSkier tweeted, sorry I can't go to the party anymore. I was abnormally optimistic at the time.

And that is how Ially optimistic at the time. And that is how I feel most of the time. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

as well as the song we ride out on. What's that going to be today? The track we're going to ride out on is from J-Rob, J-dot-R-O-B-B. It's called Dance With Me, one word. I don't know if this is on other platforms. It's on SoundCloud. Because this is more sort of Dilla-y sample-based hip-hop beat, just to kind of like it's Tuesday.

We're just warming up. So let's loosen our necks and our backs and our shoulders with some head nod music. Some headphone music. And then we'll start to turn it up as the days go on. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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