The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump-Free Thursday: Day Zero, Fitbits, Michelle Obama 2.1.18

Episode Date: February 2, 2018

In episode 76, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Sara Schaefer to discuss Fitbit betraying the military, day zero coming for Cape Town, the hate from the right for Michelle Obama, the Super Bowl halftime show with Justin Timberlake, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 16, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. Apple Podcasts, or want to do something nice. I want to give a birthday shout out to Ellen Lichterman, who is the mother of Sophie, our project manager. I have forgone the AKA to wish her a happy birthday. So that's from you to you, Ma. There you go. Have a good one, because we all love our mothers. Miles Gray, AKA happy birthday, Ellen Lichterman. That's right. Boom.

I like that. That's good. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the very funny Sarah Schaefer. Hey. Hey. What's going on? Oh, you know. Yeah.

Life. Yeah, yeah. Living it. Thriving. I see you with that Diet Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I got my DDT on hand. Yes. Happy Amber.

Sarah was bragging before we started rolling that she can taste when a diet dr pepper has turned another has gone past its expiration by like two weeks which is impressive uh sarah what is something from your search history that is um i was kind of horrified uh two recent ones one was uh slang for drug addict oh i don't remember what I was – I was writing something. Slang for – okay. I wanted something other than junkie. I don't know what I was writing. But I must have been trying to write a tweet or something. I don't know.

It might have been about my addiction to Diet Dr. Pepper because I did tweet about that recently. Like a DDP fiend? Yeah, I don't remember. Did you find any good ones? Do you even remember what came up? I can't remember. I remember just being like, well, I guess junkie is the best, but I don't want to be offensive. Speaking of offensive, my other one that I – literally the last thing I searched I guess was last night and I just need to explain after I say it.

OK. Hey, hey. No judgment. You will not be able to. First of all, can I say bad words? Oh, you can say all the bad words. Cocksucker offensive. That's not like a –

Like the tech offensive? Yeah. That's not like a war thing. I was bad words. Cocksucker offensive. That's not like an – Like offensive? Yeah. That's not like a war thing. The cocksucker offensive. So I know that that term is offensive. It can be homophobic. Yes.

And I was trying to explain to someone why it was homophobic, but I wanted to make sure that I was saying it in a very concise, convincing way. Right. So I Googled it so that I could – which I do often. When I know something is wrong or I think I have a hunch on a fact or an argument, I'll Google to supplement so that – because if I have someone's ear, even for just a moment, I want to make sure I'm communicating in the most effective way possible. Exactly.

And I rely on the internet to help me with that. Each one teach one. Yeah. Exactly. And usually what I end up finding was what I thought it was, but I just. But was there like a think piece on it that you. Oh, there's many. Yeah.

Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's some, you know, it's, it was a conversation about words, certain words becoming offensive and out of vogue. Right.

Right. Right. And that, you know, do you want to be on? Which side of history do you want to be on? And I said, oh, cocksucker is one of them. And that's a word you say a lot. Not you. Yeah.

I mean, I did say it. The person I was speaking to, who I won't say who it is. Okay. Hey, we don't have to name names here. I don't want to embarrass them. I've just been looking at the thesaurus for synonyms for addict and junkie and you're right

you gotta go to Urban Dictionary come on Zeitgang let's get some I was looking for like slang more slang words freak, zealot, habitué aficionado hound I'm a real heroin hound.

Oh, I remember what it was. You just reminded me because I decided on the word hound. Craft hound. I'm a craft hound. I love crafting. Nice. I'm addicted to Joanne's fabrics. Dope.

I think fiend and freak are good ones. I heard skell a lot from people from New York. Skell? Look at that skell over lot from people from New York. Skell? Look at that skell over there. Like a skeleton? Yeah, because they're so like... Just like a skeleton. He's like a junkie, but this guy I know who wanted to be a police officer who didn't get in.

Anyway, I won't name names here. He would be like, yo, look at a couple of skells over there. And I'm like, what the fuck is a skell? And he's like, like a skeleton. Oh, cool. Alright. Fucking skells is this he's like like a skeleton oh cool all right maybe he just like hangs around a lot of haunted houses I need like slang for uh

anyways what's something you think is underrated Sarah um oh I wrote these down um underrated silence nice I believe silence right now in our society is under rated yeah um well you're gonna love the next two seconds of our show. All right. That was probably one second.

Yeah, that was just under. That's as I can do. Sorry, listeners, about that. We do know how to count. Silence is underrated. You don't have to comment on every single thing that happens. Yeah. And we're going to try and exercise that today, but we'll get to that in a second. You know, I love silence too. Also for like where I choose to spend time off, I like to be around quiet things. In general, I think people don't understand that silence is like actually very hard to come by in like our urban sprawl world where like people are like, I want to go here, here, here. I'm like, I want to go somewhere where I don't have to even hear the sound of human activity at all.

Like I just want to be – I want to hear the wind, baby. So that's me. Jasmine breeze. Yeah. What do you think is overrated? Moral high ground. So being on the moral high ground is overrated because it doesn't exist. Everyone is a hypocrite.

Did I go too philosophical? No, no, I like it. I was going to say Shape of Water, but I feel like someone probably already said that on the podcast. No, they haven't said Shape of Water. We've gotten other movies. Shape of Water, I felt, is overrated. Yeah.

I thought I was being trolled during the movie. I truly was like, they're doing this to see if they can get away with it. Right. They're actually going to have her fuck this fish guy yep uh totally did and i didn't quite get it the way that other people were like it's so beautiful i just was very disoriented i didn't think it was beautiful i was just like oh this is a weird story but like yeah it's totally cool but i wasn't like oh my god yeah i just want that the guy that lived, her friend, his character was so weird. They didn't establish a lot.

I just felt like we were dropped in the middle of this really insane world. And it moved too quickly for me. And then suddenly like, oh, so he's hitting on the dude at the pie store and that's what's going on. Yeah, there was a lot of unanswered questions and we were just supposed to go along with it, which I guess that's part of the – but I mean she gave him an egg, and then it was like we're in love. Yeah. I didn't – The universal symbol for love, a hard-boiled egg. I do love hard-boiled eggs.

That's what my girlfriend – I told her last night I came home. I brought her a hard-boiled egg, and I said, I love you. And then she threw it at me and got really upset. Yeah. Because we saw the movie, and I was surprised that she didn't really, it didn't resonate with her. She didn't just eat it whole. No.

Immediately. Yeah. It's an interesting movie. It kind of has like a Tim Burton-y vibe in that it's like sort of magical realism type stuff. But then it's not as like contained as a Tim Burton. Like the aesthetic is just everything is green.

But other than that, uh, it doesn't really, and they even comment on how everything's green. Uh, like at one point a guy like turns in a work of art that he's been working on for the Jell-O company. And they're like, nah, they want green Jell-O. Oh, right. It's like, yeah. So everything is green in this

world. My dad described it. He goes, it was okay. It was like a 1940s or 50s romance with a diversity twist. He used the word diversity. With a diversity twist. And I was like, I don't know what he meant by that

and I'm just not going to ask. There's silence again. We don't need to go any further. Please do not elaborate on that. Let's enjoy this time together and some silence. All right. We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now, today, at the moment that we record this podcast. And today we're going to take a break from one subject.

We're going to go Trump-free Thursdays for today. See how it goes. We'll get back to all the madness tomorrow, but I feel like all the Trump news will still be there and waiting for us when we come back tomorrow. Let's take a little breather. What do you think, Miles? I think we need to because this show could easily just become

the what-the-fuck-is-happening-with- the fuck is happening with Donald Trump today show. Right. Yeah. So silence. We don't have to comment on everything like you said. No. Exactly. Ignore the –

We'll let it build up to a breaking point and then we'll absolutely have to and we'll just lose our minds that way. But the way we like to open things up is by asking our guest what is something that people are thinking and talking about uh or have thought and talked about that you know to be not true what is a myth that's out there look crossfit cross people make fun of it i do it and you have to understand i'm someone who's never done group workout or any kind of working out really. And it's amazing. And it's not a cult. I'm sure there are some cross.

I mean, Herbalife is a cult. Let's be honest. The CrossFit that I go to has a Facebook page group. And there was some really amazing drama happening in that group that did make me think, oh, some of what people say about CrossFit is true. These people are crazy. But a lot of those people left over the drama and now it's just regular. What's CrossFit drama? It was over like – I mean it was truly like – Like fudging your numbers?

I'm not going to say names. I'm going to change names. Like Frank is running this gym into the ground. And it's just like these are people like it was like but what are the stakes like how as a crossfit person what do you see the person doing you're like oh this gym has gone to shit like what i honestly don't know i could i could not tell you because i just like am a beginner and yeah uh and some people take it very seriously but um people make fun of CrossFit and a

very, uh, a popular podcaster who made me swear to secrecy because he doesn't want his fans to know he does CrossFit. That's really stupid. Um, he said, cause one of the stereotypes about CrossFit is people who do it won't stop talking about it. And I'm guilty of that. Um, but he said, maybe they won't stop talking about it cause it actually works. Right.

And it's actually good, which I do believe it's good. Now, I didn't know it was inherently a group thing. So you have to do it with other people. You can't just like crossfit by yourself. It's no. And that's where I was scared of when I first went. I was like, I don't like even if a girl like looks at me too long while I'm working out, I'm like, bitch. And then I don't want to come back ever.

Yeah. You know, I get and I'm not competitive. Yeah. I hate workout people for the most part. You know, like just the way I describe it is people CrossFit sometimes has this quality to it. And this is exercise in general, which is like that. Like that. That's like in their blood.

Their blood type is... Excuse me, doctor, what's my blood type? Yes, I thought so. I'm ear-positive. They just open their mouth and that comes out. But the one I go to is really chill, and I have made such extreme, I would say the word they use is gains. I've gained muscle.

Hell yeah. And it's helped me deal with a lot of hip pain. This is me just struggling with aging. Yeah, yeah. So I think a myth is that CrossFit is annoying. It's a little bit of a myth. I think it's for people, yeah. I think it just depends on the gym and the person.

of a myth i think it's for people yeah it just depends on the gym and and the person right i think it's the same way as like people in the beginning like oh vegans won't ever stop talking about being vegan or whatever it's like well that's their prerogative i'm like you just need to check yourself because it doesn't vibe with you whereas like crossfit you know like i know a lot of people who never worked out who like crossfit truly resonates with them and they like you said have completely like, they've gained a lot from doing it. So I don't, you know, I'm not, I'm not as mad at them. Only time is a problem is like when the gym spill out into the sidewalk

and I'm just trying to walk. And that is a problem. Yeah. That's the only time I'm like, I hate when they make us go outside. Luckily we don't do, they don't make us like take things outside, like a kettlebell or they don't make us like run with tires or anything crazy like that if they did do that i wouldn't do it but they do make us run outside sometimes and one time i i ran by people i knew and it was did you how did you feel it was unacceptable i

cannot have people see me doing this wait but what's but what does that stem from like because you're i just don't want people to see me working out just in general yeah you don't want to be on my peers right you know i'm just like i don't need you to see me in my most vulnerable which is me in horrific pain i'm like really i've been doing it for over a year and i'm still like one of the weakest people there like i truly i still can't do a real pushup. Like I'm a very weak person in all ways. So I don't want people seeing me. Yeah. Okay.

In that vulnerable moment. Yeah. I don't like people seeing me sweat either, but I can't avoid that because I sweat too much. I don't like people seeing me sweat and my shirt is sweat through right now so uh yeah speaking of fitness our first story is about how fitbit is revealing uh secret military bases around the world uh a website called strava that allows users to upload data from fitness trackers like Fitbit has created a heat map that shows where people work out, and it's just completely outlined where people can walk around

in different military bases around the world, some of them being secret military bases. Yeah, a university student saw the website and was like, this might reveal other stuff. So a student, I think in Australia or something looked at the website and then started noticing like, I wonder if this has any like security implications. And then sure enough, it was like revealing locations like of sensitive military bases including a suspected Patriot missile site in Yemen, a possible secret CIA base in Somalia, and a possible U.S. Special Forces base in Niger. So it's wild because you look at it and out of nowhere, like in the middle of the desert,

you just see like an outline of like a few city blocks. You're like, oh, people have Fitbits in Somalia or maybe that's a CIA base. Desert nomads are just doing Fitbit workouts. The CIA base? Desert nomads are just doing Fitbit workouts. I'm just wondering because I've used those types of technologies before. And I knew that it was being shared potentially and put onto. Yeah, that's true. I kind of am blaming the secret CIA base for not.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, what the hell? Yeah, hey, is your GPS I'm over here monitor on? Yeah, like, why don't they think of those things ahead of time? I think this is just. I'm shocked. I think it's just one of those things, right, where we're not really paying attention to what all this technology we're using. Like, actually, what the potential is.

But, like, it's there. of all the people to pay attention. Right. Yeah. It's there. It's them. Yeah. Right. They would be like,

fam, this is a Fitbit free fucking base. Right. So you can toss that shit out the door. It was probably just one dude. Right. You know? Yeah.

Well, cause also like I made fun of for being a little bit chunkier than the others. I'm going to run around the entire base three times a day. I love the idea of being on a secret CIA base and being like, I'm going to map my route so that others can follow my route. Because that's why you do it. You're like, oh, this is a cool running trail.

Follow my route. You get three miles in. Because that's the whole thing is you... Just in case any joggers come across this secret missile site. Yeah, right. Because it's you – it's not that it's being transmitted. You as the user have to give this information. You have to contribute the information.

Yeah, you have to share it. So, I mean, they should be looking around like, what the fuck were you thinking? Right. Just being like, this is a fucking secret piece. Unless, of course, they thought they had turned it off and somehow Fitbit had collected the data and then put it – That's another – which I wouldn't put it past any company. Well, it wasn't just the US though.

Either like the Russians and like there were Turkish people too or Turkish officials. Like the Fitbit tracking has hit everybody. Right. That's funny to think of Russian like soldiers training in like the snow without their shirts on, like doing flips and throwing – have you ever seen like pictures from like secret force Russian training facilities? They're like they do flips and like throw axes at things like it's pretty insane. And then they have like little Fitbits on their ankle. It's kind of a door.

You got to get those steps in. Right. But I do feel like this ties into an overall theme we see where we just trust big technology to – they'll deal with it. They probably have this under control, and apparently that includes CIA agents and military people are like, ah, they wouldn't fuck this up. A lot of people aren't paying attention or fully thinking through all the implications of their technology before they turn it on. That's why I just do CrossFit. Right. You know what I mean?

Exactly. You have to wear a fucking Fitbit. You're in one place. Right. You know you got to work out. Right. Exactly. I mean, there's no question.

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like three or four, maybe April is the date that they think it would happen. Yeah, around April, they think. At the current rate. If they don't have like a massive influx of water, courtesy of rain, because they're kind of in the midst of a drought, the taps are just going to run dry in this major city. run dry in this, you know, major city. The government is saying that it will surpass anything a major city has faced since World War II or the September 11th attacks because... It's going to go in the same category for sure. Right.

In terms of human impact. Right. World War II, September 11th. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah. It's just to get you, get the hairs on your neck to rise I'm not downplaying 9-11

Sorry to interrupt But Yeah I do get that In terms of individual cities Facing threats How this could be just fucking bonkers There's 4 million people that live in Cape Town,

and they get like nearly a million visitors a year. And if they do have to turn off the taps, that means they're going to have to start rationing water, and people will only – they'll have to go to like a water distribution point every day and get their 25 liters of water that every person is like rationed, which can go very quick when you factor in shit like having to like take a shower but then collect the shower like in the bucket so you can use that gray water to flush your toilet and then you might have to give your pet water or

cook with it or wash you know i mean like 25 liters can go pretty quickly and yeah i know like right now they're saying that people shouldn't be taking more than like two showers a week because of the drought or whatever and yeah part of that is because of yeah the climate change has led to like i think this is a third consecutive year without significant rainfall that would normally fill the dams and things like that and it looks dire however now i tapped into the power of the zeitgang yeah and. And I reached out to at Afro Daddy, who is my main source in South Africa. And I was asking him, like, tell me about day zero. And his first response to me was, dude, white people be panicking. Black people have never had running water.

But now it's an emergency. I'm starting to see. I was like, OK, I'm starting to see, like, how now this reaches the now this reaches the press level because there are a lot of like wealthy affluent white people who are like, oh my God, I need like, they're apparently using a lot of water for plants and pools and things like that. Well, meanwhile, most people have not had access to running water in general. But he was also saying that, you know, it's, it's kind of crazy because there's so many factors that contributed.

It's hard to like really, you to really place it on one thing. One is the drought. One is that the agricultural industry uses a lot of water, and they weren't really monitoring that in the years leading up to this point. But now I think they're saying that if people use 50 liters a day, they might be able to avert the day zero. But who's to know? But it's a very complicated situation to say the least i mean the article says that this is a city that's known for like having really strong environmental policies yeah and including like very careful management of water because they

knew it was a pretty big pretty dry uh part of the world but apparently because they were so focused on conservation they didn't have external sources of water being brought in. They thought they could just handle it with environmental policies. And that turns out to not be the case. Well, yeah. When you're fighting literal fucking climate change, it's hard because, yeah, you get thrown a curveball like insane droughts that you've never experienced before. I mean think about all those rich white people's lawns, you guys. We saw what happened here in LA.

I know, but apparently it worked. Like it's now long-term, I don't know, but I just heard on the radio on NPR, like that people switching to desert landscaping and people monitoring their, you know, getting water efficient toilets. And I let yellow mellow. Things like that actually worked and trying to collect runoff, which I also found interesting, like the long-term – people not planning for long-term because they just couldn't imagine things like this happening. Right, getting to this point. Which we should have because we knew about this shit in the 80s.

I remember when styrofoam from McDonald's was like evil. Um, I'm old. Um, so like they built the LA river to like get water away as fast as possible to the ocean because it was flooding and you know, there was these flash floods every year and whenever it rained really hard. And so they built the LA river to get water away as fast as possible.

And we never built ways to collect it. And so now they've had to try and rethink that. And you know, it's just, I don't know, I get, I can go off forever. There's a book I, everyone has to read. It's called the control of nature. It's by John McPhee. Uh, he's a famous writer, a nonfiction writer. Um, and he wrote, I've, I've thought about this book, I would say on a weekly basis for the past almost 20 years. What's it called? The Control of Nature. The Control of Nature.

And it's three sections. One is about the mountains in Southern California where there's mud flow and debris flows, which just happened in Montecito. And that people keep – his basic thesis is that humans have a memory of like 15 years and they'll just rebuild on a place that is not safe for humans. And then he has a whole section that's fascinating about the Army Corps of Engineers and the history of the Mississippi River in New Orleans. And he basically predicted Katrina in this book. And I read the book when I lived in New Orleans. And I mean my apartment would flood when it rained hard. You know, I'm like, this isn't going to go well.

And I ended up leaving and going to New York. And then Katrina happened. And I was like, he was right. It's a bowl, you know, and like, so it's a really interesting book. And I think about it a lot. And that's not to say I blame anybody for living in dangerous areas. Humans have a lot of ingenuity on how to deal with stuff. But I think if you live somewhere where there is a history of this stuff and they're like, hey, maybe you should leave.

It might rain tonight. Right. Leave. Yeah. Like I don't want to victim blame anyone who was hurt in those mudslides. But you know what I don't want to victim blame, you know, you know, anyone who was hurt in those mudslides. But you know what I mean? It's just it's a it the mother nature will destroy you. There was like a 98 year old guy who they were trying to get to leave his house.

And he was like, no, I think I'm going to go down with my house. And then he ended up dying. His house like went down like a mountainside. And like on the one hand, you know, that sucks. And I'm sure his loved ones were like, dude, you should have just left. On the other hand, that's like a pretty boss way to go. Yeah, I mean, if you're like – He's riding your house down the side of a mountain.

If you're taking in the risk and going, I don't care, then that's one thing. But if you're like – I just kept hearing on the news people being like, I've never seen anything like this. And it's like, well, there actually is a lot of history of this happening. An entire – in The Control of Nature, he describes an entire town being completely wiped out. And then 15 years later, they're building a new village on it. And so it's an interesting cycle, the human brain. Yeah. If people haven't read John McPhee, he's incredible. Yeah. That book sounds amazing i read a book called uh assembling california that's about uh geology and like how

the plates came together to form california california like sailed across the pacific ocean to like get here and uh is completely different from other parts of uh the united states but um the parallels culturally as well yeah exactly uh and all of its people came over on that and that's why we're let's go back to see but yeah he has a description in there of i think it was the northridge earthquake uh or maybe it was the earthquake that happened in San Francisco actually around the World Series when the World Series I remember that yeah my dad lifted me

I think we felt it down here but his description of it is his head my memory my favorite like fucking ran I don't know he acted like the fucking like surf's up dude above his head of protection? I don't know. He acted like the fucking, like, surf's up, dude. Like, heavy, fucking above his head, like, running.

That's my memory of that shit. Well, that's why I didn't realize, because I'm new to California. Right. Like, the most danger you're in, it depends on where you live, but the thing I read was, like, you're at most danger from things flying through the air. Right. Bricks. Right.

Like, inside and outside and they're saying in california actually like running outside is not recommended because things are falling and you get hit um but in mexico they're saying that actually running outside is recommended because of the the land there is a different type of land and it's soft and it's a different type of yeah right like people don't really know yeah they talk about how like landfill is the thing you don't want to be on top of and like we we think landfill we think of you know a garbage dump but landfill is anything that was like filled in by you know man to like build on top of and like a whole neighborhood in san francisco was just like demolished because it was on landfill but yeah he has like it opens with

this description of like a guy who's just standing there and like the ground just like you know diving boards him up and he lands like straight down on his head like and then there's like a house that just walks down the street because of like it's just like in time with the rhythm of the earth but yeah we were talking were talking about water supply and for people who aren't from California and who have lawns and are, you know, I lived in Missouri for like three years and people are very serious about their lawns out there. But, you know, keeping grass green sucks up 50 to 70 percent of residential water. So that's, you know. That's why out here, like, people were shaming you for having a lawn. Like, when that drought started, you would look at people who had grass lawns and you're like, oh, look at you, you fucking waste.

I regularly go on Zillow to, like, I want to buy a house. I'm not quite ready yet. Yeah. But I, like, look just to, like, fantasize and see what's out there and goals and things like – The secret. The secret. The secret. Exactly.

And I actually do – when I see a house with a lawn of grass, I go, nope. Nope. And that is – soon I think in Southern California, you're going to be like, it makes you not want to buy the house. Right. I do the same thing. It used to be curb appeal and now it's like, oh, I don't want to deal with it. I don't want the water. Yeah.

You know. The dirty looks from people. Right. And see, I look at houses on Zillow, too, and I'll be like, there's a lawn there? No. Yeah. But even if it costs $4 million, I'm going to still look at it.

Yeah. If it doesn't have the lawn. Because, you know, you've got to raise the stakes in your mind. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because right now I'm living in a duplex. My old house, we had a lawn and changed it to like the sort of water-saving whatever landscape. And it made it like 10 times cooler, but it was expensive.

And all the breaks that the government is supposed to give you were really hard to track down. But it's still pretty dope. Right. That's why it's a detractor to buy a house where you're like, oh, I don't want to have to convert that. Right. Yeah. You have to get like a landscape architect.

It's a whole fucking thing. But so, yeah. And just one other anecdote about water conservation. The dude Christian Bale plays in the big short, Michael Berry, is now putting all – and, I mean, it says this at the end of the movie. It says he's now putting all his money into one resource, water. But there are, like, all these investment articles about that, and they're really terrifying. They're basically talking about, like, why it's a good investment opportunity. They're really terrifying. They're basically talking about like why it's a good investment opportunity. And it just talks about stuff like only point zero zero seven percent of the world's total water is still fresh water. According to the UN, water use has grown at over twice the rate of the world's population increase in the last century. Yeah, there's just all sorts of scary shit. And these people are like, oh, man, I'm going to make so much fucking money off of this.

So terrible. Like, yeah, because George Bush bought an aquifer in Paraguay. Yeah, I remember when – I can't remember. It was a few years ago on Twitter. I said global warming is part of why ISIS exists. Yeah, exactly. The war in Syria, the drought. And people responded to me like I was insane.

They were like, oh, sweetie, were like oh sweetie no yeah that's not connected and i'm like well read this thing i read you know are you telling me that this thing isn't true like right it's from a reputable source oh nasa yeah i'm like okay it was a factor i'm like when we start fighting over water and resources like that like that's when war breaks out and then extremist groups rise and things like that so it that's when war breaks out and then extremist groups rise and things like that. So it's like, you know, if you're going to say your main goal is to get rid of ISIS and the terrorists.

Right. Then you also kind of have to be believe in climate change. Well, that's why climate change has to be treated as an actual security threat, you know, security, because it has such a destabilizing, like it's such a destabilizing force. And it always disproportionately affects like poor people. Right. And yeah, especially with Syria, you have farmers who they can't, they can't work their land because of drought, they have to move to urban areas that are already strained. And that strain just sort of exacerbates existing problems in the region. And it can become a mess. Well, and it did become a mess. I mean,

the Syrian conflict that everybody is familiar with. It's the defining political event of the decade was started just the way Miles just described from a drought that made people move to the cities. like constantly obsessed with like we got to keep terrorists out. Right. Those people don't actually want the end of war. They want war. They're on the same side as ISIS. Well, yeah. They need war to sell their players. They're dancing around the same fire.

Yeah, we were talking about disaster capitalism yesterday because Puerto Rico is now having to privatize their electricity grid, is it? Yeah, like their main power company is becoming privatized. Yeah. So, boom. That'll work out well. Somebody's getting super rich. But I guess the one bright side is that you have – there are countries that do look at climate change and are making that a priority and are actually preparing themselves. Like in Bangladesh, like they have been hit by floods and things like that.

And they have made like fighting climate change or at least preparing for it, a high priority. So like reinforcing there's like the coastline to protect from storm surges, relocating entire communities to be in safer areas. So I think we need to just at the very least treat it seriously. Right. What's the, what's the harm? I mean,

I don't, you know, you're spending money. That's always the issue. It's, it costs money to blah, blah, but it's like, but while we harm? I mean, I don't, you know. You're spending money. That's always the issue. It costs money to blah, blah, blah. But it's like, but while we just throw it away. What's that fable, the ants and the grasshopper, the cricket and the ants or something? Or the grasshopper won't, he's like just playing his fiddle.

Oh, right. While the ants are just like preparing for winter. And then like winter comes and he's like, help me. Stupid. That's my impression of fucking grasshoppers. Help me. Help me. I can't.

First the ants are like, come on in. Yeah. And I mean, the big thing is that when people do start relocating entire communities, it's going to screw the poor people. going to screw the poor people like we were talking about how the community liberty city from the movie moonlight uh right is being like torn down to put up like rich people condos because it happens to be at a place in miami that is like the furthest above sea level that uh whereas like all these rich condos on south beach are getting flooded and like won't be there in like 25 years. Yeah. So that's how in the Montecito stuff happened.

I was like, maybe if Oprah's house got fucked. Right. Right. We are really going to start listening. Right. But it's like that thing. Andrew T, our guest from yesterday's show, always talks about the Gish Gallop, where it's like they give you so many different things to have to like point out that are wrong that you can't win without sounding like a pencil neck.

It's a nerd. You mean like in terms of the climate change? Well, in terms of the climate change because then you're like, all right, we need to address climate change and we also – once climate change starts changing things, we have to look out for poor people and it's just like you have so many different like problems right if you're like i thought it was about gas man right exactly all right yeah yeah they'll look for any reason to dismiss yeah yeah um so this next one i don't really have uh any answers for it's just something that i saw today that kind of shocked me is the hate for Michelle Obama coming from the right is just fucking staggering. Like I had heard of like really ugly comments on like Facebook from like some Republican politician or something.

But yeah. So the top story on Drudge is, you know, a thing that says Michelle Obama says all we have is hope left. And it has like a really unflattering picture of her next to it. No. And all she says, she just she says people are afraid, but then there are people who feel good about the direction of the country. So, I mean, that's what makes this country complicated, because it made up so many different people with so many different backgrounds. But some people feel like the world is a scary place right now and, you know, talks about hope and treating one another kindly.

That's what said offrist for America, right? It's like in the, it's not right wing or anything. No, it's not right. I wouldn't call it right wing. overtime to create racial tension and divide America during their eight years in the White House. Please step aside while we work to fix things. Then next, we all hope that Kenyon's wife doesn't run for president. And then the next one, I have hope I'll see her husband in prison. And then why do people support his fraud and refer to Michael as she? It's an insult to females. It's not OK. So they're there saying Michelle Obama is a man named Michael. Yeah, that's a big theme with anti-Michelle Obama.

Hate is they try to make it about she's trans. Right. Like as if being transgendered is something inherently an insult. But I mean, obviously it's used as an insult now, but like, I'd love to get to the point where it's like, yeah, so what if she was? Yeah. I mean, she's not. Well, but that's for people who exist in that reality where that is a, that is a burn.

Oh, that's the worst thing you can say about a woman. A woman, you're a fucking man. Like, right. That's how unevolved these fucking people are. I get, I get that a lot from the same group of people, which is like, oh, you're obviously a man. Yeah. And it's like, because I disagree with you politically. Right.

My profile picture, I mean, it's, yeah, I'm not going to say I'm a 10, but it's a professional photo of me and I look good in it. Like, I'm definitely not not manlike in this photo. I'm like, like got long hair and like makeup and like I look like a woman. I'm wearing a dress. So they're just going straight to that. And it's like, yeah, those people are all transphobic, homophobic, racist, you know, white supremacist, misogynist. And you can tell them the way their discourse is even the comment section of an article about her. in the way the discourse, even the comment section of an article about her.

And you're also espousing an opinion, which is something that only a man would do. Why would you argue with them and think that you could – She's actually being measured and reasoned in that comment. She's saying there's a lot of people who disagree. She's actually being – Objective. Yeah, and also like I wish she would go after right no right and be hardcore but she's like being like uh like diplomatic and that's not good enough it's that moral high ground baby uh but this goes on for this goes on for 2000 comments it's

insane and it gets worse like these are not the worst things. They talk about sending her to prison. One person talks about hanging her from the South Lawn. So, yeah, I don't know. It's just, it shocks me. Also, it's like move on. Right. Dot org. Move on dot org, guys.

Donate now. Move on. Like, you know, it's, I even get annoyed with some of the, and I understand it's important that we rehash and like learn from things. But I'm you know, I'm like, let's deal with the problem at hand. Let's look to the future. What can we do? Do we need to continue breaking down what happened with Bernie over and over again?

I mean on the left does it too where we like linger on things to the point where it's like if your knee-jerk reaction to every single thing that happens today is to reference something from a year, 10 years ago, like, yeah, but it's like the whataboutisms. It's not constructive. Yeah. Yeah. We have to learn from history. I understand there's some levels of analysis that need to happen. I mean I think all of this really I think serves to show is that there are still these – most people that are on the far, far right are just – they're racist and they don't – they just do not like Michelle Obama. They look at like the Federalist had articles like years ago where they're just called Michelle Obama needs to get over herself. Right. And it was written by what I'm assuming is a Caucasian woman based on her photo and just saying shit like,

you know, it's like, so what? Because like Michelle Obama's like, sometimes I felt like I've been too harsh or I've been like too emasculating

or blah, blah, blah. And she's like, so what? What woman hasn't had to do with that? It's like the heaviest thing you're lifting is your Gucci bag. And it's just like,

God, she like dressed in J. Crew, like basic stuff sometimes. I mean she was kind of a very accessible – Right. The hate is real. The hate is real.

That's all. And then they go and they elect. This is my thing. We can't talk about that. Sorry. We're not talking about that today. But yeah, there are a lot of comparison points that would seem to be the sort of thing that would drive them even crazier uh but when done by a white president uh it does not bother them so much um so yes the update is racism still

exists in america yeah but jesus it's a lot more i don't know maybe uh the only update is that the hill comment section is fucking monstrous and terrifying. Yeah, I never look. I mean, I go on there all the time. Almost every comment section is, though. Yeah. Yeah. Get out of your bubble, man.

Right. Jump into the comments. Right. That's what I was like, is this what it looks like everywhere else? A lot of places, yeah. Have you seen, like, the New York Times? It's pretty fucking wild too. Oh, I did an interview on AV Club and was delighted with the interview and was like couldn't wait to see the positive feedback I was getting from the smart people who read the AV Club. And I have – it was one of the few times I read comments on an article about myself that I was like, oh my god, these people are animals.

Like they were tearing me apart for me talking about a song that i didn't like like i mean it was so they were digging into my stuff online like she's not fucking funny she's bitch right just like i should say this is very uh showing my privilege as a white male for me to be like, I can't believe it. People on the internet are mean. That's why I was kind of like, right, Jack. Yeah. Wow, these people don't like this black woman? Doing well? Hmm. Hey, but see, but you found

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But people are – You are a big fan yeah justin timberlake is the halftime performer uh people are taking bets on who will appear with him because uh it doesn't feel like he's the type of like lady gaga was the first performer in a long time to not just have a bunch of guests appear with her last year. Uh, so they're taking bets on who will appear. Uh, they've got TI at three to one. Timberland at five to one. Jay-Z eight to one. Uh,

Madonna nine to one. Jimmy Fallon, which is funny. 10 to one. Bob Dylan. Weird. Jessica Biel. He just brings his wife out.

and my beautiful wife. Give it up for her. Y'all remember her from seven a non-musician uh andy samberg 50 to one for they'll do a dick in the box thing and then this one janet jackson 200 to one like i would put all my money on that one no of course they're gonna bring janet i i want him to yes and then she has Because I think he needs to reconcile. Thank you. But just given my observations, I think Justin wants to move on from that, and I don't think he wants to – Well, he owes her. He does.

Look, you're talking to – I've never considered myself a Stan for anyone. Well, before you say anything, she's wearing a Rhythm Nation hat. But I am a JT stan. Oh, I thought you were going to say Janet Jackson fan. No, I love Janet too. Oh, so you're a JT – oh, whoa. But I'm a huge JT fan, but I'm disappointed in the way he handled that, of course. I've also met him.

So like you kind of know. You know his heart. You know his heart. I know his heart. I've met him once. And I think he's I know his heart. I've met him once. And I think he's – I love him. I love the new music. I'm really excited about the new album.

I think it's classic Justin. If you're not into his music, then don't listen to it. I don't care. I will not. But I do like what he's doing on this new album. Interesting. I've seen him in concert several times. Were you on the stripped justified

tour uh the what stripped justified when he toured with christina aguilera no not that long ago justified was i see i like justified as an album yeah i was like that's when i listened to a lot and then i've listened to other stuff yeah i mean he's had some missteps but like i think that my thing is i think justin became famous as a child and he's lived in a very sheltered, protected world for the majority of his life. So I just don't think he fully – He's out of touch a little bit. He's a little – how could you not be? Yeah, for sure.

And he doesn't – but his newest song with Chris Stapleton, which I really enjoy, is called Say Something, which goes back to my earlier thing about silence. And the lyric is sometimes it's better to say nothing at all. Like the best way to say something is to say nothing at all. And I love that message, but I'm also like, Justin, but you should say something about Janet. But also, look, we demand so much from our celebrities to the point where it's almost like you're damned if you do, you're damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. I wish he took more responsibility for some stuff.

Well, I think this is the way he can make it right with Janet. He did. He brings Janet out, and then at the end of the song, she pulls his dick out. In front of everybody. She rips off a little piece of fabric, he's just – his dick is right there. And he has like a weird dick ring on. She has that weird dick ring on. She has like a big sun dick ring.

Yeah, he can have some dick jewelry. But now that's just – let's just even it up. If you're going to put her on blast for having her nipples out there, I guess that's the equivalent. But who knows? They might be like, and that was the greatest Super Bowl show ever. The fact that that was even scandalous still to this day is unbelievable to me. Like there's people – I guess a group of parents like wrote a letter to JT just begging him not to do anything provocative. It's like if you want something provocative, watch the men getting concussions over and over again on the field.

Watch the way that we treat our black athletes. Like that's damaging your children more than seeing a star sticker on it. Like they've never seen a tit before. Didn't they used to eat on your tit? Like, I mean, I don't know. Maybe they didn't. And that's the problem. Yeah.

I don't want my children to know about the mystery of life. I mean, like, it's just all of it is so American. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I totally understand where – not understand where America is coming from, but, like, that is the easiest thing to predict ever, that they're going to be upset about that and not, like – Yeah. Britannical background right right absolutely a black breast now that was a look if that was jessica beal's titty up there they would not have been the same right we all know that and that was sort of the conversation that that whole controversy kicked off too was just like oh are we holding people to like what's

going on he did it to her but she got Yeah. And then, so his response was not adequate. Like, he wasn't like, yeah, that was my bad because I was the one doing it. He just sort of distanced it. He let her take all the heat. He didn't step in and go, hey, everybody. Like, it was a mistake. Like, I take full responsibility. Like, he just didn't really stand up for her.

He Warren Beatty'd the Oscar. Yes. Like he just didn't really stand up for her. He Warren Beatty'd the Oscar. Yes. And isn't he like sort of disliked in the black community for that story? And cultural appropriation claims of him. His music is definitely borrowed. His hair upset a lot of Japanese people because he had that ramen hair.

It was very bad. people because he had that ramen hair it was very bad yeah yeah he made a comment on twitter uh a while back that was just sort of condescending and missing the point he did a little bit of all lives what did you think of that supplies video it's so stupid uh i believe it's the i got you i got okay so listen i know all the words already um what does he mean when he says fell up out of it so I can climb back in? I'm a thoughtful lover or something? Sounds like he's talking about his dick falling out of a woman. I love that the video is trying to be socially woke, but the song is about fucking.

Yes. But my thing is, Justin does songs about fucking, and that's the majority of his music. And that's what he's really good at. And then you're trying to throw in some social awareness shit into the video. Made no sense. But that also does remind me of like the golden age of music videos when the music video made no sense. Yeah. And you spent like two million on it. Like remember that time?

Like when every video that came on the MTV World premieres. Yeah. It would be like, what? Busta Rhymes is seen in the rain like a gargoyle on the side of a building man that run of guns and roses videos where they yeah they were like we promise the third one will make sense of it all and that was like nothing made sense use your illusion jt is getting corny, but I don't mind. So his new album was like teased as being his return to his roots and like man of the woods. And then the music does sound very much like everything else I've heard from him. Yeah. So it's kind of it has a more country twang.

You know what? He I actually do think Justin is a really talented musician. Like and he has like he's always just done his own thing. He'll do a song and then put a three-minute coda on the end of it that's like a totally different song. Coda? Are you a musician? I've got some music. All right.

I play piano for a while. Seeing that bird's eye? Looking at that bird's eye? Okay. Yeah. He'll do things – he does things his way. He's like kind of – he doesn't mind stepping into just a slightly different world with his music but um i think these songs have like country melodies to them or country like

interesting rules to them that then he layers on his supplies definitely has that yeah like yeah yeah you know i think it's more subtle. I think people are just – they expected – because of the promo made it seem like it was going to be a country album. It was going to be like his Nebraska. And I love the first video is him as a robot. And I was like, yeah. You're Steve Jobs. It's like a Steve Jobs movie. This is hilarious.

Yeah. I guess to also think about this too, right? We're talking about Super Bowl moments. I guess to also think about this too. We're talking about Super Bowl moments. And the one thing that I just want to bring up – sorry to do a hard transition away from Justin, but I feel like we owe this to society. His left shark, right? Yeah. Katy Perry's left shark.

Yeah. He went on NPR and – Yeah, NPR tracked him down. He explained himself. Yeah. Now, did you – when you first saw left shark, what did you think was going on? This was just a total fuck up? I thought a dude was fucking up.

Yeah. I thought he was fucking up too. I thought it was like a naked gun situation where he had knocked the actual dancer out and gotten in the suit and snuck up and then was like, oh shit, I don't know this. I thought it was just crazy fun movements on a stage, but I didn't analyze it too hard. I just thought it looked funny. Well, listen to this because we have it straight from the shark's mouth. What happened? Alright, so take me to halftime.

You're out there. This is the question that America wants to know. What happened? So, there's a set choreography. There's also what's called freestyle choreography, or like you get to move around or play your character

as a dancer right so seems like a critical piece of information you had some yeah you have flexibility because you are your own character okay i'm in a seven foot blue shark costume there's no cool there's no cool in that so what's the other option well i'm gonna play a different character okay hang on this is a moment here it's america they thought you were totally flubbing this up. Yeah, totally. What character were you going for? Here we go.

This is an underdog. It's an everyday person. I'm showing you you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be perfect. It worked. So he was playing the thing I thought. Is he doing I meant to do that right now? Yeah, exactly.

He might be. She's like an everyday person who can't dance would be doing this. But it's when you watch like there was like clearly choreography to like to the course of the song. Maybe he got the timing wrong on when you were supposed to go freestyle. Right, because he was kind of doing the choreography and doing it half wrong. So to me, that doesn't feel like that was quite the freestyle moment. Right. But I don't know.

Look, if he's trying to say this was a – But that was the ultimate effect of Left Shark. Yeah, exactly. So in the end, the result was more important than maybe the intention. He's a lucky man. If you've ever been to a Flaming Lips concert. Oh, God. Like where they bring out like every character.

I mean I think she probably got that idea from them. It had a Flaming Lips concert. But like he brings out – Flaming Lips brings out like all these people in costumes and it's just chaos and there's like – Giant balls bouncing around. Beach balls everywhere. And that reminded me of that. And so to me it didn't look as much of a fuck up as it did like, oh, she's trying to do that thing. Right.

That Flaming Lips does, like a fun party and like some of it's off. But it was just so funny. Yeah. It made everyone feel so good. I love Left Shark. Yeah. No, everyone does. That's why it was just funny

that it also, that it took this long to like for this person to come out and be like, let me tell you exactly what happened. The Super Bowl, gosh, people take the NFL

so seriously. Actually, thinking back, you asked what I thought at the time. I thought I was looking at the wrong shark because I thought we were talking stage left shark.

And I was like looking at the shark to her left. And I was like, they kind of seem in sync. And then I figured out what people were talking about. Oh, yeah. It was controversial, though, too. Yeah. The whole performance was controversial, right? Satan.

Yeah. Satan abounds. People take halftime show and all of this so seriously. It's a sport that we made up. But this is imagery that is being dumped into brains around the world. When you start looking up like Katy Perry. Satan was hidden in there. If you look up Katy Perry satanic imagery Super Bowl, then there are articles like,

was Lady Gaga's Super Bowl satanic? Was Beyonce's Super Bowl? So it feels like every time there's a woman up there performing at the halftime, so it's Satanic. And who knows? I'm sure they'll find a way to say Justin was being Satanic as well. If you are someone who is offended by pop music because you think it's part of the system of Satan, because you are so hardcore Christian, then yes, it is Satanic because you think

that anything that challenges or distracts you from God and purity is satanic. So it's like you can find – I mean that's – LaCroix is satanic. The definition of Satan is like away from God. So it's like – Well, unless you're Satanist and then you stand for indulgence where Christ was about abstaining, right? Right. Damn, that's deep. Abstaining. There's nothing in the was about abstaining right damn that's abstaining like there's nothing in the bible about no about sort of like of keeping christ was into partying like no no

it's about staying in line whereas satanism is about indulging yourself or like indulging whatever your urges are but it's not even an evil way because when you look at like the tenants it'll be like if you do not respect a man, do not have them in your home. It's like, okay, so don't be fake with somebody and then invite him to your house. I'm like, okay, I'll fuck with you, Satan. Right. This is all part of Miles' satanic propaganda campaign. My new podcast called Satan.

I have to leave. Okay, great. Because you are filled with satanic imagery. That is definitely true. It's also important to note that there was a lot of satanic imagery in there. I guess what we define as satanic imagery might be loose definition, but there were pyramids, mirrors on 5 verse 8 says, be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary, the devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. So she rolled up on, she pulled up on a fucking lion. Yeah.

So the MGM lion is satanic. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And if you align it. The Lion King. Right. With satanic. The Pink Floyd album, which does have a pyramid on it. Oh.

Uh-huh. My God. Those are done by white men so it's okay the dollar bill has a full of trippy shit and isn't that ironic because the dollar money is the devil and is our god simultaneously

these are questions that I would encourage you to discuss with your pastor Sarah it has been a pleasure having you I love you guys These are questions that I would encourage you to discuss with your pastor. Thank you so much. Sarah, it has been a pleasure having you. I love you guys. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you and follow you?

I'm on Twitter reluctantly, Sarah Schaefer 1. Okay. Also on Instagram is Sarah Schaefer 1, but I just launched a new podcast. So if you like podcasts. What's your podcast? It's called Loner at Coywolf Creek. What's your podcast? It's called Loner at Coywolf Creek.

And it's sort of a hybrid topical slash futuristic dystopian scripted podcast. It's very weird. Totally have a vision of what that is in my mind. It's me in the future talking about right now. Oh, interesting. So I build sort of a world. I don't know if it's going to work. Episode two came out today.

Loner at Koi Wolf Creek? Loner at Koi Wolf Creek. Koi wolves are a new species of coyote slash wolf slash dog that live on the East Coast. Yeah. Awesome. Shout out to the Koi wolves. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. You co-host a podcast too, right?

I do. What's that called? Oh, shit. I don't know. How would people find it at this point? I don't even know. If they're listening to this. Oh, also, let me plug.

If you're in LA, I'm going to be on a show at UCB called Hollywood for Ugly People this Saturday. Just check my Twitter. I'm pushing it. If you live in the L.A. area, you want to come see me do this shit in the flesh. Just myself and a few other funny people talking shit about politics. Yeah, politics is called Hollywood for Ugly People. It's called D.C., yes. Right. And speaking of podcasts, check out Culture Kings, you guys.

Culture Kings is out here each episode better than the last. They've been, I don't know, they're so good. That show is perfect. But you can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page. Just search Daily Zeitgeist.

We have a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post all our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the sources that we used for the information we talked about today. That is going to do it for today. Do we have a song to ride out on? Yeah. You know what? Because we didn't talk about Trump and Stormy Daniels has been talked about a lot.

I just want to put people onto a great song by The Meters called Stormy. It's a really good vibe. The Meters are a great band from New Orleans who are just, you know, they're like a highly sampled band as well. Just peep this song by The Meters called Stormy and, you know, just relax, baby. We're trying to go into this weekend in a peaceful way. All right. And we'll ride out on that. We will talk to you guys tomorrow because it is the daily podcast Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go. Thank you. that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,

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