The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Free Thursday, Google Wants To Watch You 3.1.18

Episode Date: March 2, 2018

In episode 95, Miles & guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Matt Kirshen to discuss Hope Hicks resignation from the White House, Jay Z's billions, the divide on Black History Month, new A...I tech that could be terrifying in the future, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:01:21 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. They're just dreams. no other woman had done before, tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to i heart true crime plus only on apple podcasts oh well hello the internet and welcome to season 20 episode 4 0 4 20 of the daily zeitgeist for march 1st my name is not jack o'brien it is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Real G's moving miles lengths like lasagna. And that is a biggie reference from one of my favorite a.k.a. contributors, Chapman Rice. Thank you very much for that one. And I am joined by a very special guest co-host, Miss Lacey Mosley.
Starting point is 00:02:38 You know her as a comedian and overall just prolific scammer. Yes. You know, I love a good heist, a good crime. It's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Omarosa's titties. Where'd you come up with that one? Well, when I found out that Omarosa was showing
Starting point is 00:02:55 her titties on Big Brother, I was just like, damn, what can this bitch not do? Like, you know, talk about a scammer, you know what I mean? You gotta give her props.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I mean, she is, she's the scam guy. She is. She scammed her way to the White House. Yeah. A black woman, You know what I mean? You got to give her props. I mean, she is the scam guy. She is. She scammed her way to the White House. Yeah. A black woman. You know what I mean? That's a finesse move for sure.
Starting point is 00:03:10 For sure. And our third seat, our special guest today is a comedian, writer, and one half of the hosting duo for the really great science podcast, Probably Science, Mr. Matt Kirshen. Hello. Hey, how's it going? I'm good. How are you, man? I'm very good. Nice to be here going i'm good how are you man i'm
Starting point is 00:03:25 very good nice to be here it's good to see you it's been a while it's been a while uh you know we'll get to how matt and i know each other later on and it's not a dark story but uh you know i guess matt uh you know people might know that you have an interesting accent i do yeah oh well i do when i'm here when i'm back in london i have the least interesting accent it's very normal like of all the different london accents it's the least interesting one. So where does your accent fall in the category of London accents? Like, right in the, like, this is like middle class suburbs of a London accent. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It doesn't have the kind of street cred of the working class, any of the working class accents like Cockney or South London. Right. working class accents like cockney or south london right uh and it doesn't have the sort of historical dickery of the any of the upper class accents right just just plain london like it doesn't sound that it's kind of like i i own you like i uh you are my servant now like there's a you know they're not really moving your mouth or anything they're very posh accents yeah it would be very weird if i heard you say mandem i would would be, I feel like, oh, that would also be weird. Yeah. So I'm like writing, I'm like, this is the, this is the beigest of London accents.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like it's right in the, it's just shades of gray. Well, Matt, to get people to understand you, the man that you are inside, what is something from your recent search history that sort of tells, it's an indication to the rest of the world of who you are inside uh what is something from your recent search history that sort of tells it's an indication to the rest of the world of who you are well i've been uh trying to write something right now because we go back to the show that i'm paid to write on in a week so i've gone oh i better get my own stuff done which means i've done none of that and i've just been procrastinating so my search history has gone weird and the most recent thing when i scroll back just for us coming on the show was um does a hitman count as a serial killer?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Interesting. Right? It's a good question. It's a solid question. I mean, I guess it's like one of those things like a square is a parallelogram, but a parallelogram is not a square. No, I think they're actually – Parallelogram.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You know what I mean? What's that weird math thing? I know what you're saying there, but like this sort of Venn diagram of like... Yeah, what's the overlap? I mean, because you could be technically a serial killer, right? If you're a hypnotist. By the way, that was also like a parallelogram is... A rectangle is a type of parallelogram.
Starting point is 00:05:35 A rectangle is a square. A rhombus, is it? Yeah. But a square is not a rectangle. Yeah. That's what it is. Like a square is everything, but a rectangle is not everything. A square is a type of rectangle, and a rectangle is a type of parallelogram.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But a rectangle is not a square. Not necessarily a square. Right. Okay, boom. So thank you. Let's clear that up. Thankfully we have someone with a math degree in the building. So yeah, update your Venn diagrams there.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Okay, so no. Here's apparently different designations, different psychological reasons, like there's specific psychological designations to what makes a serial killer. Um, and most hit, hit men, and they are mostly men, apologies for misgendering if there are any hit women out there listening, or hit people. They're probably more effective. Yeah, or hit people who exist outside of the gender binary. Um, but like mostly hit men
Starting point is 00:06:26 and they mostly aren't serial killers because they do it exclusively for financial reward as a job they definitely have to have something going on to shut off their brain but then i guess the same goes for soldiers who you know a sniper or whatever in the military most of them not serial killers but there have been a couple there was one mafia guy and i can't remember his name uh but he was he's generally thought of as being a serial killer because he got off on the killings in a way that serial killers do and he also did some he did some killing in his spare time oh like the ice man richard kukunski maybe i like had those hbo things like the ice man tapes? Oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I have to look it up. He was a hitman, but I think in some of the interviews, he would just talk about stories where he just murdered some guy. Yeah, he does a mixture of curricula. Yeah. Ooh. Well, good to know. So he was like, I think you have to sort of have a particular type of thrill from the
Starting point is 00:07:19 killing that often veers over into the sexual or at least triggers a lot of the same brain spaces as that yeah so they quantify it by the feeling not by like the motive or the actual pattern of how you kill them or i think they all yeah i think they blend into each other but like serial killing is often ritualized and this is all stuff i discovered i'm not particularly into like the true crime stuff that's not really my thing's not really my thing, but I do deep dives on Wikipedia. Yeah, but what triggered it? What were you being like, hmm, is a hitman a serial killer? I don't even know, but I definitely go on these sort of Wikipedia. I'm not a wrestling fan, but I have spent hours on wrestling Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Really? Yeah, it's fascinating. You get deep into the backstories and everything, and you're like, this is really... I'm just reading about people and stories. That are completely made up. I get very obsessive on that kind of stuff. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll have to start a new show.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Right. It's called Deep Dives with Matt Kirshen. Let's do it. So tell me this. What is something that you find underrated, Matt? Underrated. Okay, this is going to be a little bit hippie, but this is a... I'm genuinely trying to spend more time talking to people I disagree with and not just to beat them in an argument, or to try and beat them in an argument.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I'm genuinely... Like, my girlfriend and I spent a week... Like, we had a little mini break, Palm Springs, Hot Springs, last weekend. We spent, like, a lovely hour just sitting opposite Rick and Tammy from Carlsbad. Where'd that conversation go? Tammy! Mostly gun control. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:08:57 We spent a lot of time talking about gun control over sharing wine with Rick and Tammy. And it was great. It was genuinely great. Had a great time chatting to them. I think we, we both slightly nudged our opinions slightly more to the center, but still held relatively up, but like communicated in a way you don't communicate anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I think the internet has made us so tribal and everything's about the little rush you get. Just besting someone. Yeah. The little, the little spike in your feelings that you get from just a little, from a win. The way every story is like, she destroys his argument or like he crushes her. It's not two sensible adults arrive to a conclusion.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, two people with differing views on how to solve a problem have a conversation. It doesn't happen anymore. It's now like, fucking smashed her, and he broke them. Yeah. Owned, owned. You're owned.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And you're actually like, no, you're not. You just, like, you had the power of the edit button because they went first, and then you just got to pause every so often and say something that, at least at a superficial level,
Starting point is 00:10:03 supports your argument. And everyone's in their own little bubbles, and i'm trying to mildly burst my bubble nice i think that is that that is undervalued right yeah i guess so so wait what would you and tammy and rick come what would tammy and rick say y'all was gonna put guns in the teacher's hands and in the in the baby hands i'm now a hundred percent pro gun can't takear them out of my cold, dead hands. He's holding a.38 right now, which you don't know. Even my cold, dead hands, you're not getting them out. I'm going to have, on my deathbed, the gun is going to be glued.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm going to say, with my dying breath, nail this gun to my hand. I want it rotting with me. How were you able to nudge them towards the center? What did they come in with, and how did they move slightly more towards center like i think tammy was more fixed in her ways but rick does now believe i think and i don't know how much of it was our conversation i think he was he was already go in that direction but i think he doesn't think 18 year olds should be able to buy these weapons like i think he wants like a raising of the age and so the bare minimum for lower magazine capacity. And they're both gun owners.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Tammy was like, yeah, I got my gun with me right now. Oh, wow. We were already there for one night. But she was like, I want to take you out shooting so you get more comfortable with guns. Right. You're like, ooh. Okay, well. She's stirring her drink with a glock.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Shooting is fun. Literally. It tastes good. It is fun. I mean, that's obviously. I think no one on any side of the argument is disputing that yeah i just don't understand why we're just like oh fun over all these little kids dying yeah well yeah because you're from texas oh yeah so you love
Starting point is 00:11:35 we go to the gun store on christmas honey i was at the gun store i in a pink block nine last christmas with my daddy um yeah we love guns. Do you get like special Christmas guns that have red and green? I mean, they probably exist, but I mean, I'm a terrible shot, but I just like shooting guns. I definitely shouldn't be shooting guns. But you're not one of these people who's so afraid that your guns, you have
Starting point is 00:11:57 a pretty, I guess, conventional or reasonable, rational idea of like gun control, from what I understand. Because I don't see you always bringing your gun in here. You bring it in sometimes. You know, listen, I wish I had a concealed carry. A gangbanger hopped out of his car on me the other day. It was so terrifying.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yes, and started throwing up gang signs. Because I cut him off in traffic by accident. And he hopped. I wish. It was one moment. I was like, I wish I had a gun right now. Oh, shit. But then he might well have had a gun, and you pulled that gun.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, but I would have had my gun first. Oh, shit. But I'm a terrible shot. So, you you know i probably would have got three off for you being like kill some girl scouts who are walking across the road right and for you being from the uk uh hearing obviously crazy texans over here and just america what was your experience like when you first like shot a gun because obviously there it's not you can't just go and shoot guns right yeah this is completely like the cops have to phone for a gun like they have to they have to call in a gun if they're in a situation where a gun might be necessary that's
Starting point is 00:12:50 like you at the club you're like hey man get a gun hey call homie he got that thing on him that was my favorite thing about living in the uk though i felt so safe i was there for those riots in 2010 which i wouldn't even call riots and we were outside and i was getting these selfies by this trash can because the light was bomb and it was like on fire and so so i was getting my selfies and this cop walked up and he was like what are you guys doing out here and i was like we are american like y'all ain't doing shit you gotta you gotta you gotta catch me first if you're gonna beat me with that little stick homie well matt tell me something that's overrated all right besides our american riots okay well we've already started pretty political i don't want to like make this show all like heavy politics
Starting point is 00:13:32 but but at least for this one uh sweet potatoes now let me whoa yeah oh yeah you got two black people next to you sweet potatoes are overrated they're a hundred percent like okay here's the thing when i first we don't really we have sweet potatoes in england we don't really they're not like the go-to alternative side no though i mean they've only become very fashionable i think for outside of i mean like yeah i was always eating them as a kid but it right it crossed over where like people who are on the paleo diet and shit now everyone's like oh sweet potatoes oh because they have like low gi or something like yeah whatever it is i know that's like one of their most coveted uh foods um so uh oh we can add the paleo diet as well that's also like the that's eating like a caveman yeah oh you can live as
Starting point is 00:14:20 long as a caveman did if you follow this diet. Right. Until you're 30. Yeah. 36 if you're maybe the king of the caveman. Man, I'm trying the ketogenic diet right now. It is fucking me up. I don't know if I can do it anymore. Yeah, there's a reason why this stuff's evolved. We've evolved. Stuff's evolved. But back to sweet potatoes. Yeah, you need to finish that sweet potato.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Now tell me about this. Came to America the first time. Had sweet potatoes. Was very excited about it. Where? I was like, this is great. Where? Where you have them? Boston Market.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Those aren't we. That was in Atlanta. Okay, okay. Atlanta, they should have had good sweet potatoes. Yeah. How would it cook? Salt is, this is sweet potato fries. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Oh, sweet potato fries. Okay. As an, specifically, I'm going to narrow this topic down. Sweet potato fries as an alternative to regular fries. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. I thought you were talking about yams and other sweet potato. I know. Put your Glock down. Put narrow this topic down. Sweet potato fries as an alternative to regular fries. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I thought you were talking about yams and other sweet potato. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Put your Glock down. Put your Glock down. I'll put my meat Glock down. Stand out. Stand out. I would be able to shoot you. Not a gangbanger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You'd miss. But yeah, it's. No, I agree because look, nothing is going to replace the fry. But also, yeah, you have a sweet potato first and you're like, this is amazing. There was a thing. There was a thing Malcolm Gladwell talked about in one of his books about how the Pepsi Challenge worked, which I don't know if you were at. I feel like you were too young for the Pepsi Challenge.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Is that where Michael Jackson here caught on fire? Yeah. No. They would show up at shopping malls around the world with little blind test samples, one that had Pepsi and one that had Coke inpsi and one that had coconut and you taste both and you go like holy shit i prefer pepsi and i'd be drinking coke all along and i'm gonna switch and it was like it was a big deal when it came to london it was a it was a big deal like we went to the trocadero just because my mom caught wind that there might be the pepsi challenge happening
Starting point is 00:16:01 there we're like we're going there we're going to like we're going to do the pepsi challenge we have both of those drinks available to us. We could have just done it ourselves. But anyway, it was very exciting. And you choose Pepsi over Coke. But Gladwell was talking about how you choose Pepsi over Coke because it's sweeter. And so for the first two sips, you're like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:16:18 this is so much better. But then if you have a whole glass of it, you're like, this is just too sickly. This is too sweet. I don't want this. You just get that little spike. And so that's the phenomenon that the yams are kind of scanning with. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I'm saying sweet potato fries are the Pepsi challenge of sides. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, look, that's a hot take. That's what I'm saying. Well, then let's get into the show then. You guys know how we do. We always just like to take a sampling of what the world is talking about, what they're feeling right now at the moment we record it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And we like to start off with our guest telling us what's a myth that, you know, just people are getting wrong that you're here to bust and just set the record straight. Okay. And I'm the beneficiary of this myth. But from both sides of the Atlantic, the myth that Brits are polite and Americans are rude. That's not true? 100% not true. You're the most polite man I've ever met. Yeah, you're so nice.
Starting point is 00:17:12 No, I just sound it because I've got this accent. We are rude. We're closed off. Americans are open. They're warm. Americans are so much more likely to go with, like, please and thank you and call people sir or ma'am. Like, there is a level of courtesy that americans have in general that is not reflected by brits we just
Starting point is 00:17:30 have a level of formality and we have a more clipped accent and that is mistaken for politeness it is not true it's built particularly as a southerner you're a southerner like that how much texas to the south huh do you consider texas absolutely because i know people of mexico we kiss the gulf of mexico oh that's how you because i know no i know texas you're like texas is not the south no it's not a real southern state if it doesn't kiss the gulf of mexico oh that's how you know okay anyway but yeah except for florida that's its own shit well what's your idea at the break wait but you're from texas and you i'm sure you you wrote uh were raised with like please sir and ma', well, I lived in Ealing for a little bit in London.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Okay. Yeah, and I hated all the Americans I lived with. They were trash. I loved all the British people I met. I spent most of my time with them. Maybe they were being rude. I didn't get it. Here's what it really is.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, they're totally. They're being passive. Brits are passive aggressive rude. They're rude under their breath. And then we just love the accent. They're like, oh, that was great. Yeah, and they yeah and they're like you just got insulted you didn't even realize it like but here's the here's the thing americans are louder that's all it is americans are louder and they're more emotionally open americans tell people how they're feeling and that gets mistaken
Starting point is 00:18:40 for rudeness but it's not whereas brits will be passive aggressive and snide and keep their feelings bottled up and as a result be actively this is ruder like it's rude it's definitely ruder it's interesting how because i guess it's all sort of through the perspective of your culture right because like we we see that as being like oh you guys are courteous and the four i think it's the formality maybe that we mistake because america's so fucking informal yeah we're like see we need some of that we need some formality maybe that we mistake because America is so fucking informal. Yeah. That we're like, see, we need some of that. We need some formality. We need some class. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Because like you go to Chick-fil-A for the first time and they say like, oh, my pleasure. And you're like, oh, my God. I'm like, what are those kids on? Yeah. I'm like, what are getting them kids? Am I like at Buckingham Palace? Like Brits think there's a level of insincerity to American politeness, which there is some truth to.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Oh, absolutely. Like to sort of have a nice day and everything. But on the other hand, it's just pleasant. Wow. Like you say it enough times, you just, like, there's got to be at least some truth behind it, even if you're saying it through gritted teeth. Right. Rather than just the sort of, yeah, screw you, get some chips.
Starting point is 00:19:38 All right, well, let's get into one of the first stories. As you guys know, today is Thursday, so that means it's Trump Free Thursday. Ooh, yeah. Trump Free Thursday. Ooh, yeah. Trump Free Thursday. Okay, so yeah, that was Shannon Coffey right there. You might remember that from last week when she gave us that wonderful drop. We will be using that going forward. Thank you, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So yes, on Trump Free Thursday, we do not talk about President Trash at all. But there is one story we do have to talk about but we won't use that guy's name uh hope hicks uh who obviously was we all knew as the white house comms director uh she announced that she will be resigning from her position uh in the coming weeks which is weird because the day before she was in like a marathon q a session with the house intelligence committee uh where she admitted that she had to tell little white lies uh who knows what that actually means? I mean, she was saying like in the instance of like, oh, if the president was tired and didn't want to go to a meeting, I would say he's busy. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Okay. But is there something more? Like, because clearly you also talked to Robert Mueller and who knows how that discussion went. But she will be on her way out. So, you know, another one bites the dust. And there are basically not many ogs left from the campaign uh in the white house so that is going to be probably a lonely place for that old twitter trash man that's living in the white house uh and we'll just leave that at that because we have
Starting point is 00:20:55 bigger news to talk about because uh as lacy pointed out one of my favorite rappers jay-z has now surpassed diddy as the richest rapper on the Forbes list. But is that... Oh, there we go. Is that because... How did you summon that? You like what I do with my mouth? How did you do that? You just made that noise twice, and the first time, I'm going to be honest,
Starting point is 00:21:14 it didn't sound as good, but then you recalibrated it, and then the second time you made that noise, it was amazing. Vocal training. Jamaican air horn. Everybody needs to have one. Right, exactly. It's installed in your voice box. Now, this list, is it just for rappers, Lacey?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, so it's called a hip-hop list. Okay. And Forbes developed this list in 2011. And when they developed it, I put on my white lady news voice, when they developed the list, Diddy has been the top of it the entire time this existed. You do suddenly, you've suddenly gone from like, sounding like you know all the players involved to suddenly this is like mpi a uh a rap musician has today been declared in 2011
Starting point is 00:21:52 okay so puff daddy sean combs sean combs rap which is a type of sing talking exactly so so basically diddy had been making the rappers aren't making their money off features and on albums. They're actually making it off investing in alcohol. So Diddy has to rock and he also has Deleon tequila, which he's in partnership with. And that's how he was making most of his money. But since Jay-Z has invested in Armand de Brignac, which is Ace of Spades. Oh, Armand de Brignac. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. For the birds out there, Ace of Spades. And do say he's recently surpassed diddy making 900 million dollars um he made 900 million dollars when uh you mean over over cumulative okay i was gonna say like yeah just like one bottle yeah amazingly and it's like if they mark it up in the club you go to the club like you could get it so much cheaper if you just go to ralph's oh yeah in the club 900 You go to the club. You could get it so much cheaper if you just go to Ralph's. Oh, yeah. In the club, $900 million. It's about 7,000% more. Yeah, you're paying that club's rent.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah. But the wild thing that I recently realized and I wanted to bring up was obviously rap music has been doing endorsements for their own products and product placement that they're getting paid for, like Air Force Ones. And I think T-Pain had Nuvo, which we didn't have. The Nuvo ring? No. Oh. That terrible, sweet alcohol. Yeah,. The Nuvo ring? No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That terrible sweet alcohol. Yeah, he's got into contraception. Yeah, I was like, whoa. Yes, he was promoting contraception. Yeah, I was like, wow. He's like, put that Nuvo ring in there. That's woke. I mean, that goes all the way back to when Public Enemy had the sponge.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, right. It was just each generation of hip-hop had their own contraceptive method. Right. But so Diddy and Jay-Z spent a lot of time kind of promoting their alcohols in their music as well but something that i found interesting is i have a friend who's like a former drug dealer and um he told me that and what's his name in social security that's for me to have okay um he told me that when he listens to rap music he like he can tell like who actually like sells the drugs or
Starting point is 00:23:45 sold the drugs or whatever. But he said that also there's product placement for guns and stuff, like the new hot gun that rappers are using. He's like, ooh, I gotta get me that, whatever. They're saying shit by brand? Yeah. And we don't notice because we're not like, you know. I mean, that was called choppers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I don't know if it was called a bushmaster by name. Yeah. Same like modern hip hop and the NRA are both doing the same job right now. Like promoting. Could you imagine? A little bit. A little bit. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But yeah, now Jay-Z and Beyonce together are a billionaire couple. They have over a billion dollars in net worth. Well, shout out to you guys. All right. Well, cool. With that, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. guys all right well cool with that we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate
Starting point is 00:24:41 my name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner.
Starting point is 00:25:52 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. senora sex ed is not your mommy sex talk this show is la platica like you've never heard it before we're breaking the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in latinx communities
Starting point is 00:26:32 this podcast is an intergenerational conversation between latinas from gen x to gen z we're covering everything from body image to representation in film and television. We even interview iconic Latinas like Puerto Rican actress Ana Ortiz. I felt in control of my own physical body and my own self. I was on birth control. I had sort of had my first sexual experience. If you're in your señora era or know someone who is, then this is the show for you. We're your hosts, Dios know someone who is, then this is the show for you. We're your host,
Starting point is 00:27:05 Diosa and Mala, and you might recognize us from our flagship podcast, Locatora Radio. We're so excited for you to hear our brand new podcast, Señora Sex Ed. Listen to Señora Sex Ed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels,
Starting point is 00:27:34 into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints of a lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Why would we want to be the losing team? I just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And because it's March and no longer Black History, I just wanted to look back and talk a little bit about Black History Month because there's some interesting stories or at least one interesting story to talk about.
Starting point is 00:28:35 For those of you who don't know, in America, February is Black History Month where we celebrate the achievements of African-Americans and their contributions to this country. Because let's be real. We built the motherfucker. So just some backstory. Carter Woodson, who was a scholar and author and co-founder of the Association for the Study of Negro Life and History in 1926. He declared the second week of February to be Negro History Week. And then today we got the entire month and it was first celebrated in 1976. And, you know, it's been part of the curriculum that's taught in school ever since. Now, so recently there was a poll done by YouGov and The Economist that found that we're starting to see divisions about how we should be teaching black history, the value of teaching black history, and how it's increasingly being sort of divided on partisan lines. So in this poll, they found 85 percent of African-Americans and 32 percent of whites said that there is not enough black history in our school.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And that racial divide isn't so surprising. What was the percentage again? Eighty five percent of African-Americans believe that there's not enough black history and 32 percent of whites believe that there's not enough. OK, which tracks, you know, that tracks. Right. So now it's become much more partisan. So like Democrats and Republicans have also grown really divided over whether schools are teaching too much. So in 2000, Democrats and Republicans didn't differ on this. And it was just sort of like that's that's kind of that was the norm back then. But now everything's getting much more polarized. getting much more polarized uh but now however republicans are now 30 points more likely to say schools should teach less black history uh and now one-third of republicans or at least people who voted for trash bag uh in this poll said that american children should quote solely be taught about western civilization and european slash u.s history uh so i mean this is nothing new uh but i guess it's interesting
Starting point is 00:30:25 because now it's really showing that before it's really become polarized and like along partisan lines and now it's the republicans truly are just sort of being like yeah it's clear right i love i love the gradually changing uh euphemisms that they have to like they have to get more and more specific with their euphemisms and their dog whistles to avoid saying white. Right. Western civilization. Western civilization. As opposed to black uncivilization.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Right. It's very African savagery. That's the implication, isn't it? That's like the clear count about it. Also, black history, but it's not even that. We don't teach a lot of european history in school black history unless you're taking like specialized like world history classes or stuff like that that's a high school yeah in high school really so like black history is american history and like
Starting point is 00:31:16 oh my god these books are literally trying to water down the history like to the point where it's like oh a slavery an unpaid internship yeah and how like how deep dive into european history you meant i grew up in britain so we like the history that we got was uk-centric right and obviously a lot of that was european-centric depending on how far back you're going like 1066 and the battle of hastings good memory vikings uh stanford bridge but then like you know how much does a an american kid how much value is it to an American kid who isn't going to go on to study history? Is there to know about like the Spanish Armada? I think there is.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I mean, there's interest in there. I love history. And I majored in history because for the simple fact that you can see sort of like the matrix, right? That there are patterns to history. I'll give you that. And they help you give context and for me i'm just so interested in things outside of my realm of experiences united states and japan that like i'm all about european history i studied european history in college and there's definitely huge value in like learning
Starting point is 00:32:14 about what's happened in various societies that have collapsed and various societies have thrived in the what and ones that have ended up totalitarian in different countries in different states because i look if you look around the now, Americans don't have that context. I don't think that's what they mean when they're saying European history. Well, right. But so this brings me to the other thing is that some people argue that Black History Month, it actually doesn't do much to improve race relations or have meaningful discussion around race because it is only one month. And in a way, some people said it sort of compartmentalizes the issue and so that if you
Starting point is 00:32:45 only have one month that means you're only allowed to use like february to talk about issues that are relevant to black people or just sort of race relations in the country see that and normal and i think and i agree like why not kind of treats it almost like when you go for a field day like it's a project yeah it's like that day and then oh all right kids we're going out of class now to visit uh black culture about a large population. I think that black people also have realized, though, that if we don't implement something where it's mandatory that – It won't get talked about. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's like saying, oh, having handicapped parking spaces doesn't make every building handicap accessible. Well, at least they can park somewhere. Damn. At least we got one month. So I'm not for removing Black History Month or trying to. No, no. Because I just don't think that it's feasible and I don't think that we can hold, frankly, most people accountable. And I feel bad for Republicans because their party used to have a lot more self-respect. And I like know a lot of self-respecting Republicans who aren't racist.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And now since their party has been taken over by barefoot country bumpkins. Right. Well, because now sadly sadly like because of this last you know election a lot of people their immediate association with the gop is sort of just closed off uh racist people and and again back to the sort of issue about black history though i think what can be said is that what this sort of signifies or just underlines is the idea that we just don't talk about race in the context of our current events or in history year round to sort of sort of educate kids year round about how complex, you know, institutional racism is in this country and things like that, that it shouldn't just be because, you know, if you think about growing up for me, Black History
Starting point is 00:34:18 Month, we would just talk about Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, George, George Washington Carver, Harriet Tubman, and a lot of people. And I didn't realize until later on that Rosa Parks wasn't just about segregation. She fought for sexual harassment and many other things too. But we get this – it's weird. And this was me going to school in the 90s that it was just sort of this very myopic view of like three people and like maybe a couple entertainers. And never – like when you got into the units about the Civil War, like slavery was like a paragraph where it's just like, yes, and there was slavery and that was bad. But – and moving on.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But mostly it was about these battles and that's how it happened. Yeah. And these two white guys up against each other. In past shows, we've talked about how like the Southern Poverty Law Center, I think one of those groups had talked about how sort of ingrating history books that kids are taught from in elementary and high school, they're woefully insufficient in terms of properly teaching about slavery and just sort of race in general. But again, I don't know, like, what is it like in the UK? Is there anything similar to anything like this? I'm sure there is. That's putting me on the spot now. But I'm absolutely sure there are massive blind spots in the history that we were taught at school.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Right, but is there anything like a Black History Month in the UK? No, not that I can particularly think of. And then there might be Brits listening to this right now who are currently screaming at the... There are a few Brits who listen, yeah. But like who are currently screaming at whatever their listening device of choice is going, yeah, there no i can't think of anything specifically like that but then also there hasn't been like one specific racial group that has been so massively mistreated not to say that britain isn't a society that's steeped in racism and layers of racism because like i'm wouldn't second pretend it's like i this idea but it's almost like the racial group that's maligned has shifted over the years. Like it's just – we haven't had like one major thing like slavery.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like we haven't had that. Just imperialism. And again, people are now listening to going like, yeah, you did. And Britain – The empire. The slave trade. Yeah. And also the slave trades – the American slave trade had like people would come through Bristol.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But – Yeah, it's not like America. We have a cultural legacy of slavery and like that being fundamental to the formation of the country. Yeah, like my friend Gina Yashere describes it like Britain has subtle racism. Right. No, and it's interesting to think about. I mean because now in the America that we're in presently, it's become more and more polarizing. we're in presently it's become more and more polarizing and you can just see that sort of partisanship is just so much more polarized like racial attitudes than ever yeah and britain britain
Starting point is 00:36:51 has a lot of that as well and but it and it's shifted over the years like it's been like i make my family jewish immigrants and we were like the black sheep at one point and then you know there's african and caribbean immigrants and then there was like a big wave of immigration from the Indian subcontinent, like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and with accompanying racism that came with that. Right, right, right. And now it's like Polish and Eastern European people. And then also Muslims are being very harshly maligned right now. So, like, yeah, there are lots of different levels of racism in Britain that are going on and contradicting. But there isn't like one sort of overwhelming. We treated a group of people so historically badly that the only way to make up for this now is to actually sort of legislate some kind of official recognition.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It would just be it would be many months of the hey, sorry about that. But also, like you say, the British Empire was, you know, historically, Britain just took over large swathes of the world. Right, right, right. And then wondered why they somehow ended up back in Britain eventually. Like, it's like, then they get pissed off when Indian people come to England. They're like, do you not remember that you used, like, Britain? Right. Owned the...
Starting point is 00:38:00 And is there sort of like a blind spot for that for people in the UK of sort of taking in that historical context? Because I think that's the problem here, too. There are definitely blind spots. Americans don't like historical context. You'll hear particularly from things like the conservative parties talking about talking fondly of the days of Britain's greatness. And you're like, oh, you mean when Britain sort of enslaved half of the New World? Right, right, right. The old world.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, like when john kelly was like you know back before the civil war when families were together and you like where y'all was selling us apart no we weren't together homie and there's a lot a lot of that drove brexit as well a lot of that sort of fake memory of how things used to be good back in the day right right right that sort of oh you know when people would you know if we just leave europe then we'll go back to a world that when you could leave your doors unlocked and people respect their parents like no firstly that was never the case and secondly no no one's going to respect their parents because they're always teenagers let's be real and i think that people also need to remember
Starting point is 00:38:57 that because i think a lot of times especially in america people get frustrated with african american people because they think we're just whining and that we just want to, you know, talk about our history to throw it in white people's faces so that they can feel guilty about it. How much more do we have to give you? Literally. But it's like, no, you have not given us enough. And we're taking it because it's supposed to be ours. These are human rights.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Like, I think a lot of the issues that African-American people have with Black History Month and history, the reason that, Miles, you said you were so interested in history and like the matrix of it is like history repeats itself and so yeah we don't have jim crow but we have the new jim crow yeah we have 14 of the population is black in america but we make up over 35 of the prison population like things like that don't add up and there's a reason for them and it's institutionalized racism yeah there's just a huge blind spot to it. And it's crazy this idea of people like, you know, white people are not being taken over.
Starting point is 00:39:49 People of color are just catching up. Child, let three Negroes get a job on TV. Here they come talking about, this show is racist. Did you hear about Leslie Kahn? Oh, yes, yes, yes. Did you guys talk about Leslie Kahn? No, we haven't, but
Starting point is 00:40:04 it was a very problematic acting coach acting coach in los angeles who told her uh white female students that they should start pretending that they are latinx so they can get jobs yeah latino women yeah she's like i'm actually like you look like ethnic whatever she's like i'm 100 sephardic jew she told them to start wearing red to auditions yeah she was like ashkenazi jew even like yeah even the like the white age she was like yeah she i don't know if she was but yeah it's basically that and she was saying oh yeah you should be rosa ramirez or something like that right that was wild and it's like this is to white people to think that like okay first of all there's not a huge explosion of latinx jobs
Starting point is 00:40:42 in hollywood so for the few jobs that they have you really got to come in here and take them too but even from a practical point of view like that's always worked out well hasn't it you know when someone's got famous and then being exposed for lying about their race like that's never gone badly for anyone yeah you don't want to get definitely good long-term career advice that is white privilege you know to the next level you know some people might think that would just get you maybe one job and then you're ruined for your entire life. But I think it's good advice. I think it's good advice to just... Listen, I love a scam
Starting point is 00:41:12 though, so what can I say? Let's talk about something that's really troubling too. Not that that isn't, but Google Clips is this new camera that Google has put out. And I just kind of generally want to talk about the dystopia and the impending Black Mirror episode that will become our reality. So basically Google came out with this camera called Clips,
Starting point is 00:41:29 like a little GoPro that basically it's always on. And you don't tell it when to take photos. It is going to figure out through learning or observing its surroundings when it's something that is worth taking a picture of. Now, it's interesting because it's using AI basically to sort of replace the main job photographer, namely like figuring out when to capture something. And the reviews are like whatever. It's not like the most amazing thing.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But it's a glimpse into sort of like what sort of these next kind of things are because we already give so much information to Google that strapping up a 24-7 recording camera isn't the most comforting thing. Well, you know, like right earlier oh, you're on this morning, I parked next to the Google Street View camera. Right. Or the car. That car, right. It's right in your lot for some reason. I don't know what it's doing.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I don't know either. It's taking all your information right now. I've not seen one of them that up close. I think I might. Oh, take some photos of it? Yeah, or, you know, you just feel like, what can you do? Like, I kind of want to climb on the roof and press my balls against there. So they're like, you know, everyone's just like. Just ruin it. Yeah. So it of want to climb on the roof and press my balls against there. So they're like...
Starting point is 00:42:25 Just ruin it. Yeah, so it's just got the slight smudge of my balls on every photo. They're like, something is really wrong with this camera. There's definitely ball smudge in the South Hollywood region. Which is South Hollywood in general. On Cosmo, interesting. Well, so this camera also goes along with... There's selfie drones that can follow you of take the right pictures by following you or the obviously those Boston Dynamics robot dogs for like the DARPA challenge that we see every year that are becoming more and more sophisticated and agile to autonomous drone taxis that, you know, Dubai is testing. So clearly, like, AI is becoming more and more sort of weaved into our lives. Which brings me to this next thing is that there was a conference of experts, like 26 experts from
Starting point is 00:43:09 14 different institutions and organizations, including Oxford University's Future and Humanity Institute, Cambridge University Center for the Study of Existential Risk, Elon Musk's OpenAI, like many people who are sort of like really studying AI, they basically came away with this report that is saying that AI is sort of on the cusp of becoming a tremendously negative and disruptive force on the level of like rival states and terrorists because they will be able to scale and efficiently use AI to launch like very finely targeted and efficient attacks. So like whether it's you know data
Starting point is 00:43:45 poisoning or spear phishing or speech synthesis like like the or like deep fakes kind of videos where we can sort of manipulate footage uh to look like realistic things it's there there are more and more they're basically raising sounding the alarm saying uh we need to kind of look at this a little more i i like the sound of the center for existential risk yeah oh it sounds heavy it's just a real important job especially on a first date what do you do uh i work at the center for existential risk oh so you got money or you are the the darkest most down person oh right where it's like oh you real life b613 right yeah you feel so self-conscious on a date with that person like should i am I – am I safe having oysters?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like, what do I do? They already know everything about you. There's an existential risk to that. I wonder how careful they are. Like, every surface is covered in, like, pillows and sponge. For any and all kind of risk. But I guess, you know, Matt, you are tapped into the science world and observe things. Yeah, I mean not that you're an expert, but like this is something that is of interest to you.
Starting point is 00:44:48 It is. We've covered a few stories about this kind of thing. Right, and how do you see sort of this playing out? Because it seems like right now not enough people think about the dual use of the technologies that they're developing. I think the risk right now is that the people driving this technology are too excited in a sort of like look what we can do that they're not stopping and they're in such a race to develop the next technology that they're not building in the enough safeguards and they're not doing this responsibly and they're like silicon valley in general has that sort of hard libertarian sort
Starting point is 00:45:23 of randian uh yeah like the market will fix everything we're like we don't need regulations Does that sort of hard libertarian sort of Randian. Yeah, like the market will fix everything. We're like, we don't need regulations in any kind of way. Things will work themselves out. Don't you? You can't put a price on progress. Right. And yeah, it scares me.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Like, we're already getting close to the point, like you say, that they can in real time make videos that make it look like someone is saying something that they're not right we're already so even before we get onto like weapon or anything like that we already know that there's a massive problem with the inability anymore to to know what is real and what is fake right and what is a troll and what is a real person and what is real news and what is a flood of fake news and that kind of thing and that's poisoning just discourse and the information right that's out there and it's going to get to a point with machine learning where they can market micro target this where you they will be able to convince people of stuff so easily by honing in and evolving at an incredibly rapid rate on what's what are the best...
Starting point is 00:46:25 They'll be able to test thousands of messages, see which sticks, see which fake one piece of propaganda sticks, and then go with that. And then immediately, yeah. And micro-target in fractions of a second. And that's worrying. Like, from just an information level, that's worrying. Before you even get onto, like, weaponry
Starting point is 00:46:41 or machines getting more powerful than us. Like, it's going to get to the point where people will win the information war without you even realizing right and that scares me that really does scare me and like you know some of the stuff we are just giving them willingly everything that they need yeah and i don't think they are aware i think they're drunk on winning yeah on power and just be like look how effective our ads are because I... Oh, look at this cool gadget that we've got.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Look at this cool gizmo. This is really cool. And it is cool. Like, the stuff that they can do now with understanding natural language, it's cool. It's great. I just, I'm worried
Starting point is 00:47:16 that they're not building in the safeguards. Right. Yeah. I mean, when it trickles down to, like, basic bitch territory, it will be good for my Instagram. I can start faking locations
Starting point is 00:47:25 that i'm at right like when you like got the new whip and it looks like you're in a lamborghini it's me in a cardboard box at miles you're in that same car shuri was in in black panther exactly completely made up imagine completely made up i'm in shuri's car in black panther oh my god so there's some come ups didn't that story come out recently people are like there's a company that just rents a private jet that doesn't go anywhere yes oh so you can flex in it yes i know about it it's just the set of a private jet isn't that what uh uh little bow wow was doing yeah it's 200 it's 200 for an hour and you can do whatever in the jet you want get your jetway photos get your you know what i mean now listen guys if you're on my instagram that's a real jet that i mean okay yeah that's a real jet but for y'all who can't afford my lifestyle yeah for y'all who can't on that rns i'm not quite at the same level so i go to like
Starting point is 00:48:16 the set of a spirit airline oh no spirit oh boy you can't even get it on a real spirit. You're like faking that you're in Priority One boarding. We are emerald over here, son. Wait, where can you find this jet? It's like, they have it in LA? Yeah, it's in LA. Of course it's in LA. Yeah. $200 an hour.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And that's base rate. If you want a photographer to do the... I didn't go study into this. I didn't go research into this. It costs... Yeah, there's like extra packages. You can pay for a stylist and a makeup and hair person. I didn't go study into this. I didn't go research this. I don't know. I think it costs, yeah, there's like extra packages. You can pay for a stylist
Starting point is 00:48:47 and a makeup and hair person. You can get some bad bitches for one thing or more. Wait, really? Yes. So like for the basic, for the flat rate, you just sit there by yourself
Starting point is 00:48:55 and you take your own selfies. Yeah. And then if you pay more, you can get like a stylist and a makeup artist and a hair person and like professional lighting and photography.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Professional lighting and photography. They'll bring you food. Yeah. Or like a champagne glass yeah or think about or if you're real broke you bring all your own shit you're like i have my stylist my cousin this is my i have champagne flutes in my backpack because someone i can't remember now some musician got busted where like he posted the instagram photo of himself in the private jet that was a little that was a little bow wow challenge and then someone else at the same time went like hey look who i'm sitting next to on a commercial flight right like times down at the same time just be yourself it's okay to be a broke boy you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:49:33 but money isn't king men should be excited about this though if you can fake whole videos then it's like i saw you down there no that wasn't me hey you know what we should do maybe we should do a group photo shoot at the private jet that would would be so funny. Oh, my God. All right. Well, that's a good idea. Podcasting in Vegas tonight. Yeah, exactly. On the way to Paris. See y'all soon. All right. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,
Starting point is 00:51:17 we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.
Starting point is 00:52:01 It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask,
Starting point is 00:52:15 a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its
Starting point is 00:52:33 inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:52:49 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. In a galaxy far, far away. No, babe, that's taken. We're in our own world, remember? Right. In our own world, we're two space cadets and totally normal humans. Sure, remember? Right. In our own world, we're two space cadets and totally normal humans.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Sure, totally normal humans. Embark on a journey across the stars, discovering the wonders of the universe one episode at a time. We'll talk about life, love, laughter, and why you should never argue with your co-pilot. Especially when she's always right. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And if we hit turbulence, just blame it on Mercury retrograde. Or Emily's questionable space piloting skills. Hey! Join us on In Our Own World for cosmic conversations, stellar laughs, and super corny dad jokes.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Listen to In Our Own World as a part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we are back. Now, let's talk a little bit about some stuff going on in the media, some lighter stuff. Have you guys heard of Dr. Pimple Popper, the YouTube doctor? Yes. Sandra Lee, I believe is her name. She basically has a show, or I mean a YouTube channel and like social media. So her name's not Sandra Pimple Popper, the YouTube doctor. Sandra Lee, I believe is her name. She basically has a show,
Starting point is 00:54:06 or, I mean, a YouTube channel and, like, social media. So her name's not Sandra Pimple Popper? No, sadly not. It's Lee. But Dr. Lee, I mean, like, she has, like, I think 3.4 million subscribers. No, my name is Dr. Pimple Popper, but I am a doctor of physics. Right. Oh, God, I knew this. I should change
Starting point is 00:54:22 my name. I have a PhD in comparative world literature, and I just happen to have the last name Pimple Popper, and people keep assuming that I pop pimples. Well, this one does. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I love a good popping video because I'm sick inside. Have you seen videos like this, Matt? I've seen a couple. I don't go out of my way to watch them, but they're compelling. seen a couple this isn't i don't go out of my way to watch them but they are they're compelling so you so okay because i think some people will watch them and they're like hmm other people are like
Starting point is 00:54:47 like start dry heaving immediately because it's just so disgusting the old thing you have you have to like seek out every so often on a wildlife documentary there'd be like someone who got a worm or something and they'd be like the video of them pulling a thread worm out and then you're like and you're like this i mean like on the one hand this is gross but on the other there's something really satisfying about it, just like coming out of someone, I don't know what it is. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 What do you love about it? Oh, okay. So it's one of those things. It's like porn for me. I don't, I can't follow it on Instagram because I don't want to just see it without warning. Like I,
Starting point is 00:55:20 I go when I'm like when you used to follow all those porn accounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it was getting too raw. I like to go see it when I want to see it. of course but I love it because there's just something about like the extraction and it coming out that's just so like oh I love it I used to pop my ex-boyfriend's pimples like I'm such a like yes like that I
Starting point is 00:55:38 know yeah the women love to do that I've my girlfriend always like scans my body to be like can I pop that right i don't know what you're talking about or she'll like invent things that are poppable i don't know what it is i mean i like no that's uh that's meant to be that don't yeah exactly she does it in a way that almost feels performative because like sometimes i'm like damn just squeeze it right right right but she'll like just like massage around it and like it's professional and because like she does ones like they're like the titles of her videos like extracting blackhead from 85 year old woman's back or something like that and it's like the most like a top shelf popping we've ever seen aggressive now the way they describe this show uh that's going to be on
Starting point is 00:56:19 tlc uh because obviously they're about learning still yeah the learning channel yeah i think one of the other shows like the sex sent Me to the ER and shit like that. Little Women of – they have all the little people shows where they fight. Yeah, some of those shows had to abandon their programming motto. But this one says, Dr. Lee will poke, prod, and squeeze in order to resolve some unusual dermatological cases as well as transform the lives of her patients as each condition considerably affects the patient's day-to-day lives. Dr. Lee and her team of medical assistants must bust out the syringes, scalpels, and squirt protective face masks in order to get down to business.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That doesn't read well. See, what I like about that now is knowing how TV works because she's now crossed over onto the big time, onto mainstream TV, that means there's like a couple of production associates, a couple of researchers associates a couple of researchers right a couple of aps whose job it is now to just scour the country finding gross pimples yeah oh i'm sure bring them to her i think anyone right they're like they'll probably be like hey free extraction and you get to be on tv and most people don't have insurance i feel or not a lot
Starting point is 00:57:20 of people don't have insurance to be on tv, to be on TV and be gross? Yeah. Oh, have you seen people – have you ever seen a veterinarian bust a cyst on a cow? No. Oh, that's the next level of popping is on like farm animals. Okay. Okay. See, that's some freaky – Miles, that's some freaky shit. It's crazy. It looks like somebody cut open a trash bag full of milk.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Anyway, let's move on to another story because March is Women's History Month. You are also really good at making that sound, but not initially. Like both of you, like you need like a one-go warm-up before it comes out perfect. Now, I am a ventriloquist on the side. We all know that. You know, Lacey, you were saying that the medical field has come to a new conclusion. Yes. So there has finally been – well, this is actually one doctor's opinion.
Starting point is 00:58:07 But a lot of women have latched onto this and a lot of news sources have latched onto this. Basically, John Gilbald, who I believe is a doctor in the UK, has said that period pain can be as bad or worse than a heart attack. And so basically a lot of women have latched onto the story. It's been in Marie Claire. It's been in Elle. Like it's everywhere now because women have been saying forever that, you know, menstrual pain is really,
Starting point is 00:58:34 really bad. And I definitely can attest to this as someone who has like had to take prescription drugs for period pain and like, and that's why it's so annoying when men are like, Oh, are you on the rag? And it i do everything you do and sometimes i'm just in sheer agony for eight hours while doing it and i'm smiling yeah better than you so run that i once had to be rolled out of spanish class uh in a wheelchair oh really yeah because i collapsed from period pain and we could only speak in Spanish in that class. No. I was like, Señor Corey, me duele.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Wait, so you doubled out in pain and they're like, en español, por favor. Literally. And our nurse was so mean, yo. She was the kind of nurse, like, if you said you threw up, she'd be like, let me see you. Right, right, right. She was real mean. So what did you have to do? I was like, don't see. Right, right, right. She was real mean. So what did you have to do? I was like, don't take me to the nurse.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Right. She'll be mad to me. But yeah, so they rolled me out of the high school in a wheelchair. My parents picked me up and took me to the doctor. But I used to be on Celebrex. I know so many people who have been on drugs. Yeah. In the article there, it's basically one woman speaks about her own personal journey.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And she says that when she went to the gynecologist, they put her on birth control and basically told her, she asked about the risk and her doctor told her that it could lead to blood clots and also an increased risk of breast cancer. But then the doctor followed it up. Well, one in eight women get breast cancer anyway. So nobody, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:01 That's a doctor saying that? Yes. Yo, you never want a doctor to prescribe you something and be like, well, look, bro, like one in eight men get this cancer anyway. So, you know, it's all Gucci. Take these pills. No, I'm trying to not.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'm trying to avoid that at all costs. She's like, look, wrist's already high. You breathe in LA air. Your titties are already a risk. But yeah, so basically there's no cure for this. And what John was basically trying to get at at was is that there needs to be more research done about menstrual pain because right now the treatments aren't necessarily effective they put you at more risk for blood clots and breast cancer so the treatments are just like stop your period altogether yeah and that's your workaround or take fucking super
Starting point is 01:00:37 painkillers because i a girl a friend i had in high school her cramps were so bad she was on vicodin yeah and that's crazy that you're only- Just opiates, just straight up opiates. Well, and there are stories about people who have gotten hooked on opioids because of the pain from cramps. And I guess, yeah, it's really baffling why it's taking so long to just be like, well, this is a pain that you can just take an opioid for. If men had ball pain once a month, there would be all types of drugs, like research studies, all types of things.
Starting point is 01:01:07 We all saw how poorly male birth control went, and there were only mild side effects. There's so many side effects for birth control, and it hasn't been proven to relieve the pain associated with dysmenorrhea. Can I ask you a question? Because we've just gone from Black History Month to Women's History Month. As a black woman, did you feel at the stroke of midnight last night, like your priorities shift? No. The priorities are always straight. Yeah. No, I mean, women's history is complicated for me and it's complicated for a lot of black women because women's history hasn't necessarily always included us.
Starting point is 01:01:47 You know, intersectional feminism is still something that a lot of people are getting on board with, which is why the women's march has always been complicated for me. I went this year because I was like Marshawn Lynch. They pay me to go. Right. So I showed up. But you know why I'm here. You know why I'm here. But it is kind of complex uh because women's
Starting point is 01:02:07 history like susan b anthony was a racist so you know she was marching for rights but not for my black ass but you know i took him anyway i feel great i i don't know if i've ever was taught women's history in school like i don't know if that's a new thing or because i mean i've i know that like march was women's history month but, but like in school, you knew. Yeah, there's no focus on Women's History Month in school, at least not when I was in school. You don't say in this patriarchy. Well, that's a big surprise. Was there anything else about the period thing that you want to talk about?
Starting point is 01:02:38 No, that was it. I just think that we need to do more research and figure out how we can help women besides doping them up or giving them hormones. Right. And the studies that could follow, I mean, are there just not any studies happening around it? Well, the studies normally surround like endometriosis, which has been proven to be a cause of very painful menstrual cramps and stuff. But there's no cure for endometriosis. Right. And they say about 10% of women who are having these types of pains actually have undiagnosed endometriosis,
Starting point is 01:03:05 which is bad because it can lead to infertility, but there's no actual cure or treatment besides medication at this point. Wow. Yeah. Come on. Let's, let's evolve. Well, Matt, where can people find you, support you, see you, hear you? They can, if their podcast listens, which I guess they probably are given that they're listening to this podcast right now probably science is the name of the show i do it's a comedy science podcast we go through the week in science news with comedians and then sometimes have real real scientists on and talk about their work so check that out that's on most of the podcast platforms and then i'm matt kershen on most of the social media nice are you performing anywhere soon uh i'm only around la right now because i'm about to go back on most of the social media. Nice. Are you performing anywhere soon?
Starting point is 01:03:48 I'm only around LA right now because I'm about to go back on. Oh, watch the Jim Jeffery show on Comedy Central and you'll see some jokes that I wrote. Boom. There we go. I'm about to go back into there full time. So I'm not really on the road. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And the wonderful special guest, Lacey Mosley, where can people find you? Oh, so you guys, they can find me online at Diva Lacey. That's D-I-V-A Ll-a-c-i if you want to see my comedy page that's diva rants um if you're in la come out to trap private ucb franklin we're there every fourth saturday at midnight uh you can catch me on it used to be herald team leroy and also on it used to be my team mama march 21st they do they just have new mod teams yeah okay and also i'm giving away cash on beat the q if you download the app we are the new scammer version of uh hq um and we are also giving away cash so yeah download that app beat the q some shmoney i'm downloading i'm
Starting point is 01:04:39 already on like three of the different yeah it's called like now you got a new addiction yeah or buzz video if you download either one of those uh then you can play through the app and yeah we're giving away money you are 12 questions okay i'm not mad at that oh and also guys you really should follow uh lacy on instagram because her ig stories are from another fucking planet they're so funny uh and i don't know how you constantly can perform throughout your Instagrams all day. It's crazy for me. It makes me look weird in real life.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Matt was looking at me a second ago when I was taking videos of myself. Yeah, it was just before we were about to start. And then you're like, oh, hi, I'm Lacey. He's like, oh, she actually is a professional. She was switching wigs up and shit. Well, I already knew you were a professional because no non-professional would put that much work
Starting point is 01:05:24 into actually getting ready just for a podcast, I guess. Yeah, I know knew you were a professional because no non-professional would put that much work into actually getting ready just for a podcast, I guess. Yeah, I know you can't see the radio show. Yeah, you can't see, but she's making me feel like a piece of garbage.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I look terrible next to this. Oh, bye. You've got to imagine hat on with your shirt. Guys, if you're looking for me, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles and Ray.
Starting point is 01:05:40 If you're looking for the show, we're on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist. We're on Facebook. Just search Daily Zeitgeist. What else? Oh, yeah. Website, right? So a lot of you guys are like, hey, what's that song
Starting point is 01:05:52 you played? Or what's that article you were talking about? Look, we have a website. And if you go to www.dailyzeitgeist.com, you will find all of our shows and our footnotes. And we'll just leave that really sad open air there where you can find basically links to all the articles we talk about and even the songs
Starting point is 01:06:11 uh that we use to play us out and to play us out today i think in honor of jay-z uh top and diddy there's only one song and that's dead presidents uh great great songs one of my favorite jay-z songs uh And yeah, shout out to Jay-Z for Leapfrogging Old Diddy. And with that, we will see you guys tomorrow. Stay blessed, guys. Outro Music bitches, watch how I'm walking, cause even the thoroughest niggas be knocking, trying to strike a bark and hoping that they might get parted shit, I'm in far away, got me pins and needles and my cerebral bees, the wicked is evil thoughts that the sport'll feed you, P-facts
Starting point is 01:07:12 in the game, so deep, things can catch ya freeze off my kneecap, can y'all believe that, got the city drinking crystals, we up to fee, rappers going broke, trying to keep up with me, my rise to riches, surprise the bitches, think harder, you know this nigga, Jay-Z, Sean Carter Outro Music I'm out for presidents to represent me I'm out for presidents to represent me I'm out for every old president to represent me
Starting point is 01:07:49 I'm out for presidents to represent me I'm out for presidents to represent me I'm out for presidents to represent me I'm out for every old president to represent me So sick of niggas I want money like Cosby, who wouldn't? There's this kind of talk that make me think you probably ain't got no puttin' Niggas got them kind of dreams from Jack, you in the streets, nigga, make your moves, get your mouth
Starting point is 01:08:11 Niggas a coast in the SL, but can't post bail Niggas a roasted L, but scared to throw your toast, well I'm here to tell niggas it ain't no swell, it's heaven, then it's hell, niggas One day you're cruisin' in your seven, next day you're sweatin','re sweating forgetting your lies alibis ain't matching up bullshit catching up here with the week gold they repo your vehicle everything was all good just a week ago about to start pitching ain't you ready to start snitching ain't you i forgive your weak ass hustling just ain't you aside from the fast cars honeys that shake they ass and bars you know you wouldn't be involved with the underworld dealers carriers of mac millers east coast body is west coast Outro Music playin' then they play you out. Tryna escape my own mind lurkin' the enemy representin' infinity with presidency's your notes. do man you're gonna stop this game and we gonna play for real man let's get it on let's lock this all down We at, we at. What's up, California? A lot of money there.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I'm going to take all of it. Let's go, let's go. Thank you. I'm out for presidents to represent me. I'm out for presidents to represent me. I'm out for every old president to represent me. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption
Starting point is 01:10:34 that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
Starting point is 01:11:31 What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, They're just dreams. our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba,
Starting point is 01:12:12 and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.