The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Free Thursday: Quincy Spaketh The Truth, Evil Spirit Airlines 2.8.18

Episode Date: February 8, 2018

In episode 81, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Casey Ley to discuss Quincy Jones interview updates, Kate Upton & more Menghazi crimes, Spirit Airlines, google trends, Mike Pence & Adam Rippon's response to him, plus a new TBT segment, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sure And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Casey Lai. Hello. I don't have a song. I feel bad about not having a song. Well, let's make one for you. Okay.

I am Casey Lai. I am Casey Lai. I am Casey Lai. Casey Lai. Casey Lai. Casey Lai. I am Casey Lai. I don't know what Lai, Casey Lai, Casey Lai. I don't know what song that is.

La-da-dee-la-da-da-da-da. Oh, be my love. La-boosh. La-boosh. Uh-huh, yeah. Gonna be Casey Lai. Boom. Casey, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

Well, first of all, there's a lot of things in there that I just can't bring onto the internet. But I found myself rabbit-holing in a way that got me to the Flintstones movie starring John Goodman and Rick Moranis. Yeah. By way of, I had Googled Barney Rubble in drag. And because I write for these drag queens every once in a while. My life is very drag queen oriented these days. I don't want to say which ones because I'm doing. Oh, you don't want to put them out there that they got ghostwriters?

Well, yeah. People from drag race? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Wait, people from drag queens? Drag race. Oh, no, not directly. Okay.

I'm just trying to see the levels. You know, there's levels to this shit. Yeah, yeah, but I'm doing a show where a bunch of those queens are on it, and I'm writing for some people. And it's like a roast kind of thing. And one of them kind of looks like a caveman in drag. And so I was trying to find a picture of Barney Roble, and I was actually spot on. There is a picture of Barney Roble in a dress because all cartoon characters of a certain era at one point ended up cross-dressing. Right.

And seducing a man. And seducing a man, you know, and the man gets angry and then someone gets murdered. They were very dark. Right. Cartoons were very dark. Very dark storylines. But so that then led me to the B-52's theme song, their cover version of the Flintstones theme, which is dope. Is it?

Yeah, it's super funky. It's super B-52sies. You hear it and then you're just like, oh, they were destined to remake this song at some point. And is it sort of aesthetically similar or thematically or melodically similar to the original one? Yeah, it's just funkier, baby. And it's Fred, baby. It funkier baby yeah it's just like it's like we're in that we're in flintstone land yeah and it's just kate pearson crushing it yeah uh bedrock that's what it is it's just it's it's all very much flintstone but i like the idea that

he calls bedrock flintstone land if you see a faded sign at the side of the stone it says 15 miles to flintstones land yeah but most people don't know. Boys Don't Cry based on a Flintstones episode. Wait, really? No. That's funny. So what's something you think is underrated? Well, I could go in a couple of directions.

One thing that I think is underrated is I just want to talk about it because no one ever really talks about it anymore. And it's the Pet Shop Boys. They're my favorite band of all time, and I don't think that they get the credit that they deserve for kind of bringing electronic pop to the masses in a way that is

now consumed by everyone. They were kind of looked over, I think, a lot. So I will say it hasn't been necessarily established necessarily by my words, but perhaps by like my voice and train of thought. I am a homosexual. And so I find myself very much interested in acts that have been kind of overtly gay and or that were started out, started out not hiding anything. But how like in the 80s, like no one really you couldn really like talk about it, but you could like push it out there. Right, right, right.

And in aesthetics or in coded language. And so they did that. But also it's just – they're just – everyone knows West End Girls, you know? Right. And you might have heard like Always on My Mind or some of these other songs. But a day doesn't go by that I listen to like three or some of these other songs. But a day doesn't go by that I listen to like three or four Pet Shop Boys songs.

And they put out a new album every three years and it's relevant. It's like Chris Lowe, who is their beats maker, is probably just in a club in Ibiza six months out of the year. And he's just absorbing

what the new sounds are and he's putting them out. And then Neil Tennant is their lyric are and he's putting them out and then like uh neil tennant is their lyricist and he's basically like a truman capote-esque level like commentator on the world and so society and so every couple years there's an amazing new pet shop boys album and show me a band that's been around for fucking 30 years crushing it every three years that uh the people's orchestra of north korea that is they they are but state funded you know i mean it's true they have an advantage that's it that now there's a country that appreciates the arts right yeah militantly they're like oh yeah they're i think all their

artists are also part of the military too because that's their contribution to their duty to the country is to use your art to spread propaganda did they ever do a dubstep style thing if you're saying they always well i'll tell you they ever get caught by that no but they are very much uh open to their songs being remixed by like cutting edge artists so dubstep is not something i've ever heard uh i don't think anyone should hear dubstep anymore um that's funny it's like i was. I was home with my grandmother over the holidays and a commercial came on with a dubstep soundtrack.

And I was just like, a 93-year-old woman should never hear dubstep. She's wobbly enough. But yeah, so no, they haven't. But they put out pretty intense dance versions of some of the remixes.

I'm just saying, kids out there, you should go check out the Pet Shop Boys and you might be pleasantly surprised at what you hear. What is something you think is overrated?

When I was thinking about this beforehand, I was thinking that this is something that I don't really care about and it's off-brand for me to talk about, but I've been hearing it a lot

and it's hating Tom Brady. I think that's overrated. Ooh. Interesting. Go on. Because... uh hating tom brady i think that's overrated interesting go on because greatness is something that doesn't come around a lot i'm not even a sports fan holy shit okay go on i'm not even a sports fan and sure he lost which may what might be his final super bowl but all of the like he's a he's a cheater and a loser and a Trump supporter. Look, he is a big meat stick who's like incredible at what he does for years longer than he should be.

Right. And oh, he deflated a ball for like a couple of games at one point that I don't follow sports. Here's a question to you guys you guys follow sports yes are you allowed to dope in football is that why there's never been a doping scandal in football is because everyone just is allowed to do it because why gronkowski you know what i mean like how does that exist uh yeah it's just they're really bad at testing for it i think or not bad intentionally bad yeah really bad at testing for it, I think, or not bad. Because they want it to happen. Yeah, intentionally bad at testing for it.

And so you have this person who is just head and shoulders seemingly above everyone throughout history, and you hate him and people hate him. Why do you hate Tom? Why does one hate Tom Brady? I think some people, they, I guess, can't separate the athletics from the athlete. Right. And is he a bad person? Yeah. I mean, he's got some pretty interesting takes on the world.

The world. He had a MAGA hat. He's a big Trump dude. Sure. In the beginning, I remember that. He's not a big Trump dude. Right. He's not openly still standing for Trump.

So he got tangentially connected to Trump a couple of times, like has had his picture taken with Trump, presumably before like any before he came out and called all Mexicans rapists and stuff. Right. Tom Brady didn't do that. Right. Yeah. He did not do that. And yeah, I'm personally a Patriots fan. I did not tell you that ahead of time. I did not ask you to stand up for Tom Brady. Where are you from? I went to high school in Boston and used to go to games back when Drew Bledsoe was their quarterback, and they were not very good. I am from Rhode Island, and I am not a Patriots fan, but I'm more not a sports fan necessarily. And that's not like any criticism of anything but I'm more not a sports fan necessarily. And that's not like any criticism of anything.

I just have my own pastimes. And I do like watching like one baseball game a year. And it's usually like Game 7 of the World Series. The ones that matter. Or like the Super Bowl and something like that. But I can also like I appreciate it from a cultural standpoint. And I appreciate Tom Brady from a cultural standpoint. And I just think it's like hating Tom Brady for these ulterior things just is like bandwagoning. That's why I think it's overrated because it's going to come down to history. It's not like he's like Mike Pence.

You know, like he's not like out there Paul Ryan-y supporting everything that this guy does. Oh, he who dare not have his name spoken. Sorry. I'm tired about that. Today is Trump Free Thursday. That's the only time we hear that name. Right. supporting everything that this guy does you know oh who'd he who dare not have his name spoken i just think it's important to to let tom know that he has fans in the gay community and he is undeniably great yeah he's done things with the human body that haven't been done like what what he's doing the amount of decisions that have to be made and like transmitted into athletic uh activity like in a sheer like split second is incredible like most quarterbacks can't do it beyond the age of like the upper thirties. And he's still doing it. I agree.

What do you think about Kobe though? Uh, what do I think about Kobe? I think he, you know, uh, can you respect his gangster? Yeah.

I respect his work ethic. I respect, uh, you know, I, I think his game was, uh, you know,

modeled after Jordan. Yeah. Rip off. All right. But, uh, just trying to see if you're going to, you know, be that, be, uh Rip off. All right. But, uh, just trying to see if you're going to, you know,

be that, be, uh, so diplomatic. Cause I know you don't like Kobe. Yeah. But Tom Brady didn't have a me too moment. Right.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We know of, uh, so yeah, that's, that's a great overrated.

I love it. Uh, all right. We're trying to take a sample of, uh, what people are thinking and talking about, uh, right now in this country and sometimes around the world. And on Thursdays, we do not speak of he who shall not be named. And, yeah, we like to open things up by asking our guest what a myth is, what is something that people believe that they know to be incorrect.

OK, that Los know to be incorrect. Okay. That Los Angeles weather is great. Mm-hmm. I see it more of like, it's like 80 degrees in February right now. Right. And sure, that sounds great if you're up in like, I don't know, Fargo or like, you know, stuck up in Maine or somewhere, you know. Right. Sounds nice.

I don't want to be in that. But one, my allergies are out of control. So my allergies shouldn't be out of control in February because everything is blooming. One, so that's super nauseous. Two, you never get a chance to just sit inside and brood because the sun is always looking through the window being like, oh, you didn't write enough today, did you, loser?

Come on out and have a hike and waste more time you know like that kind of thing and then um also it just kind of feels like the calm before the storm and the storm is just like no water no rain all dust like the interstellar like interstellar like what's happening then you know it kind of feels like uh that part right before a tsunami where you're on a beach and the water starts to go out you're like what is happening this is amazing yeah i've weighed anything like this before let's go collect all those fish that are just flopping around right there i'm just gonna steal that boat you just drag it to the beach and then all of a sudden everyone and hundreds of thousands of people are dead right

and that's just kind of what la.A. weather feels to me. I lived in San Francisco for years, and everyone's like, oh, it's so chilly and foggy. That's the weather for me. Me too. See, I'm from L.A. I'm born – I'm a valley scumbag of the earth. I can tell. Thank you so much.

Yeah, because – anyway. Just that layer around you. Just my scum aura. And I grew up wanting to always wear jackets, and I never could. Right. And they were like luxury items to me because like, man, I'm already wearing fucking t-shirts, and I was feeling so good like the last month because I could wear a hoodie. Yeah.

And now I have to like sweat it out in public. I'm like, no, I'm not wearing this hoodie. Right. Yeah. I just like variation. Thank you. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing to me. And I understand when people come out like when they're like, well, you haven't had a Minnesota winter or whatever.

You know, I would like to know at the very least. And I would love to. I'm not saying that's the best thing. But variation does help you feel a little less insane. Sorry. Yeah. It helps you appreciate like a long winter. I went to school in like barren wasteland in New Hampshire for four years.

And those winters are brutal. But then that spring comes around and you are just like – So happy. You're so happy. And sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. I say that now and I go back into that winter and I'd be like, oh, I got to get out of here. But I don't know. I'm just saying move back.

I moved down here from San Francisco to pursue my dreams. here but um i don't know i'm just saying move back i don't i moved down here from san francisco to pursue my dreams and um um i just feel like everyone talks about the weather being the reason they come down here right and then you know and then it rains one day and they complain yeah no people cannot deal with the rain they can't it's crazy it's like any weather people will like come up to you if like the rain is putting out the forest fire that's about to engulf your house and be like i didn't move here for this you know i moved away from this i moved away from this weather people drive slower when it's windy like that's how bad they are at dealing with the because we're all high here yeah that's that too yeah um yeah i i do i miss the i miss the fall

i miss the spring and even though a lot of the time the temperature here is what it would be in the fall or the spring in other places, it's just like there's something about that changeover that is really magical everywhere else in the world and not in L.A. And 80 degrees in February means 107 degrees in August. And that's just what terrifies me. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm also a very sweaty person. Me too. Yeah.

It is. We all sweat up in here. We have recording shirts we wear just to record in. We sweat them shits out. Then when y'all see the photo, that goes up on Twitter and Instagram. Yep. That's a whole other shirt we put on. That's so funny.

You know what I mean? We drive in in a shirt. We have a driving shirt. I have my driving shirt. Yep. I have that. Yeah. Oh, that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, man. Especially when I lived in the Valley and I had a fucking busted Honda Prelude with the air conditioning that didn't work. And I would go to UCB class. I remember one time someone was like, you're really sweaty and fucked my head up. So I had like shirts on deck in the fucking car because I was not showing up to be the dude who looked like he did too much cocaine before the improv class i can remember like driving to parties in high school with the air condition on full blast and like trying to like seal my shirt sleeves up to the air conditioner to try and to be like one of those like cold air inflatable yeah like dancing machines in front of a used car lot because my pits were just out of control. Well, we've learned a lot.

Hey, speaking of out of control, let's get an update on that Quincy Jones interview that we talked about yesterday. By the way, Miles Bravo, a Oscar Emmy-worthy performance. I know everybody's like, do the whole interview. Do the whole interview. Maybe I will. Maybe you will. Maybe that'll be an evergreen thing. Yeah, for people who didn't listen to yesterday's episode.

Just stop now. Stop now. Listen to that. Go back and listen to the – Then come back. At least the last 20, 25 minutes of yesterday's episode where we went through some of the excerpts from the Quincy Jones interview. And we left off. We left you you dear listener what we were talking about the part where

he says that Marlon Brando would fuck anything right he would fuck a mailbox and then he says Marvin Gaye Richard Pryor James Baldwin he fucked everything that moved and we couldn't tell if he was saying that also Marvin Gaye, Richard Pryor, and James Baldwin also fucked everything that moved. It was unclear based on the sentence construction. And then the second we locked the episode, Richard Pryor's widow came out. I was like, oh, yeah, no, he fucked Richard Pryor. Marlon Brando fucked Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor and Mar came out. I was like, oh, yeah, no, he fucked Richard Pryor. Marlon Brando fucked Richard Pryor.

Richard Pryor and Marlon Brando fucked for sure. So all the crazy shit that Quincy Jones was saying is like now just being confirmed. Wait, just so you know that her quote about when they asked her is wild because they say it was the 70s. Drugs were still good especially quaaludes if you did enough cocaine you'd fuck a radiator and send it flowers in the morning yo i was born in the wrong fucking time because now when they catch me fucking the mailbox i'm a fucking felon you're great okay yeah i'm a pc 290 okay okay but yeah so what a quote it just makes you think.

And also T-Pain had to also confirm something too because they asked Quincy Jones what was a failure or something. And he's like, man, I did this tribute album and these rappers wanted to do covers of songs I already did. And he's like, yeah, T-Pain really fucked his part up. And then T-Pain had to come out and be like, yeah, the thing was my managers pushed me into covering Pretty Young Thing by Michael Jackson. And I kept telling them i should not do this like i'm very uncomfortable trying to cover a really legendary michael jackson track and he's like but they forced me he's like i knew it was bullshit i recorded it it sounded like shit then the album came out and it sounded even worse and he's like and i don't know why uh quincy jones didn't fucking just scrap it or like tell me yo this

is fucked up uh so that's another person who had to feel the ripple effects of this interview. But it just makes you wonder, what else was he right about? Because if he's spot on with this other shit. We're just forced to assume everything he said was correct. Yeah. I mean, we haven't heard Ivanka Trump. She hasn't denied anything. Yeah.

I can believe everything that he said. I mean, we all know that Kennedy was killed by someone more than just lee harvey oswald we know that fact um but it's just it one he it's like oh he sounds like a crazy old man but because he's old we were like we're assuming he's like crazy crazy old man really he's just got nothing to lose and he doesn't give a fuck so he's just saying whatever he wants to say yeah i find it super interesting i also love i mean one like richard prior talked about having sex with men so that wasn't like a big shocker and also everyone knows marlon brando had sex with men too i love that it was marvin gaye james baldwin and richard prior right because it's like oh he only fucked black guys right all really high quality intellectual

top of their field yeah exactly No schlubs in there. No schlubs. It's like he was with fucking, you know, JJ, you know, from What's Happening. Right. The question is, who knows? Yeah, who knows? We do know it was the 70s though, right? So it was 70s era Brando.

So 70s Brando. It was like Godfather Brando. Yeah. Not Island of Dr. Moreau and not. It's Goldilocks Brando because it's too hot when he's on the waterfront streetcar. Just too hot. You can't touch that. You just can't touch that.

It's so hot. Mailboxes were trying to fuck him. He was the radiator actually. He was emitting so much heat. And then it just became – and then at the end it was basically Orson Welles. So like yeah, they got him in that sweet spot. at the end it was basically orson welles so like um yeah they got him in that sweet spot you know do you guys know the story from uh island of dr moreau where he want you know he was wearing this uh ice bucket from his hotel on his head the whole time uh and they were like why why are you doing

that and he was like no trust me this is uh he also brought that little person with him, the smallest man in the world, and just insisted that he be in every shot with him. And then he – so after wearing this ice bucket on his hat, he went to the director and was like, I have an idea for how we end the movie. So you know how this movie is about like half human, half animal hybrids? At the very end of the movie, I take hat off and i have a a dolphin spout on the top of my head a blowhole blows yeah i have a blowhole and it blows water out and that's how that's the twist which would have been the funniest fucking ending to a movie ever at that point they should have just tagged it on because that movie was about as ridiculous as that to begin with. I mean, just at the end.

Good for you. Rock that ice bucket. Ice bucket challenge. The originator right there. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I mean, Quincy Jones is entitled to say whatever he wants. And I just love that Vulture was like a vulture just ready to pick. to this like old ass guy's like i don't know if he's dying i'm gonna pick apart this carcass right like crazy lines right and what's great is like the you could tell the interview wasn't it

didn't even seem like his goal was to pull a bunch of shit out of him quincy just laid that shit on right the first the first question was like what was great about michael what tell us something we don't know about Michael Jackson. Fucking thief. Yeah, exactly. Okay. And I could just see the interviewer just being like,

oh boy, this is going to be different. Just game face, game face, game face, game face. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. Fucking stole everything anyway. Yeah, I got rich though.

I know. What's your sign? Yeah. What's your sign, man? You like Zancou chicken? Oh my God. That's so funny. All right,

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Mengazi. We have a couple updates, actually. So Kate Upton has accused the co-founder and former CEO of of guess jeans uh paul marciano yeah just groping her and trying to kiss her and grabbed her breasts and was like oh i'm making sure they're real saying shit like that yeah like she walked into a shoot yeah and he just came at her like made a beeline at her photographer. Grabbed her boobs and just started like playing with them.

And she was like, what are you doing? Yeah. He was like, I got to make sure these are real. And then was like, I think fired her from a shoot. And then was saying like, oh, she's a fat pig. This dude is fucking wild. Right. Anyway, so.

And when you look at him, he just looks like an old white guy. Shocker. But yeah, he's just like a white haired old white man creep yep uh nick carter uh his rape accuser has filed a police report and the police are investigating uh so you know that is getting that is becoming real and so is the scott baio accusation from Nicole Eggert. She went to police yesterday and filed a report and brought a witness who

corroborated that they saw inappropriate touching at the time on the set of Charles in Charge. So, those are going down. Those things are happening and progressing. I think it's just time to give all men i'd like a time out yeah for a while like every man in power you've abused it we know that

let's give women a shot they're not gonna run everything for a while unless they do a really good job then they can be in charge and we can just hang out and fuck each other or whatever just like leave the women to do their thing until they want the sex with us intentionally someone needs to do the thing it's like yeah man see like you can't have nice things now you have powers now you can't have anymore right you don't fucked it up seriously it's it's in the gay community too but uh it's just crazy how like all just don't hold your heroes like Scott Baio close. Got it. Who knows what's going to happen.

Those poor saps who were like, man, Scott Baio was a fucking icon for me, man. It's interesting. It's in the – public media is experiencing a lot of people going – like losing jobs and being thrown out because of accusations. And that's a different kind of trust. I mean it's like Charles in charge and fucking the guest jeans guy like you know if you're a straight man in fashion you have definitely done something terrible right like it's just like that's and like if you're scott baio like if you have like a conservative mindset and you're a narcissist and you have a lot of money and you come from entertainment you've definitely done terrible things too

but um it's like when you hear like garrison keeler or like this guy tom ashwood people that you just have like implicitly come to trust. That's when the more betrayal of trust seems like – It's more vivid. That's when it hurts and that's when it becomes a thing. But again, Nick Carter – That's why I was spending too, too much time on it. I'm more concerned about Aaron Carter and his mental health.

He's not on meth. He's not. Let's talk Spirit Airlines, you guys, because they're- Talk what? Spirit Airlines. Oh. Whoa. What?

I'm triggered. Because we, Super Producer Anna Hosnier brought a terrifying story to us from the the realms of spirit airlines the netherworld of spirit airlines when you just walk on there it's just like logic turns upside down and just like terrible shit starts to happen it actually costs an extra two dollars to look at their website Right. They had a young woman who was on Spirit Airlines who brought a hamster with her as her emotional support pet. You know, I'm not a huge believer in certain emotional support pets. Like, I think dogs, sure. But a hamster, you know, if it was working for her, it was working for her.

Sure, but a hamster, you know, if it was working for her, it was working for her. But rather than being like, all right, you have to keep that like under wraps or whatever, they made her apparently flush the hamster down the toilet. And honestly, that's probably a better experience than riding on spirit air. Right. Yeah. The hamster was like, thank you. This is dope. I mean, well, the thing is, yes, this woman, she called twice and was like, yo, I have an emotional support hamster.

Can I bring Pebbles on board? And they said twice, yes. Then she pulled up and they're like, no, fam, you can't bring that rat on here. And I guess she alleges that they said, well, why don't you just flush it down the toilet because you can't bring that shit on and she tried to call a friend to pick it up. Spirit Airlines, their statement was, obviously was like, we made the mistake

by clearly someone told her she could bring it on when they couldn't because that's not our policies but they're like, but they really deny that they said anyone suggested to flush it down the toilet. I can't imagine there was some like, let me get my manager and the manager's like, well, you have two options. I think maybe someone was offhandedly like,

I don't know, just fucking flush it down the toilet. But I just cannot imagine that that's what they did. But I do love her being like, okay, fine, I'll do it. And then being like, well, that's the spirit. And or she refused to call it a spirit animal. Right.

And so that's why she wasn't allowed to have it on. Emotional support animal. Emotional. Right. She was like, no. Because a TSA does allow them. That technically can be considered an emotional support animal. But man, I just don't like flying with people when they bring emotional support pets.

I've. My girlfriend, we have a dog and she's like like she likes to bring it with us on airplanes i'm like so my japanese side does not want to make a scene yeah or like cause inconveniences so like when the dog's like barking i'm like oh god don't just and we brought in the airport it took a mad shit in the airport yeah it was a moment the dog literally started arching his back to shit i lifted him up and bare hand caught the shit before it got all over the airport airport floor and then i just slam dunked in the toilet or in the garbage can and walked embarrassingly into the bathroom so i don't know most of them they stress me out yeah but you know that's me i feel i feel like

you need to know your dog is going to be able to handle it because i've been on a couple of flights recently where i've seen some chill ass motherfucking dogs that can just handle it. And you got to, and you got to know that maybe just like load them up with some CBD edibles before they like get on and like chill out their anxiety. But like my dog would not be able to hit my dog. Even though she's like a little,

like a little girl who likes to be around me, like she would just be so like, like just like super hyper aware of everything that's going on. It wouldn't be the best. Yeah. So whatever. Shout out to, yeah,

we're being forced to choose between people who bring emotional support animals on flights and spirit airlines. There's like, that's a tough, I mean, look, if they, I don't want to,

you know, I'm not trying to shame anybody who, who actually animal provides support. Cause I get that. Yeah. You know what? Fuck spirit airlines. That's where that goes.

Yeah. Their seats are rigid. They charge you for everything everything i just feel like there's more to this story than they asked me to flush oh yeah yeah yeah the point that they must have got to because i'm kind of with you i'm sure someone did say that but it was after like 20 minutes of straight like no you don't fucking get it yeah i'm like goes why don't you flush down further right yeah yeah what that is a suggestion i'm calling the miami herald You don't fucking get it. I have a buddy that goes, why don't you flush down the toilet? Right. And it's like, what? That's a suggestion. I'm calling the Miami Herald.

But the fact that she did it is a little. Did she do it? Yeah. She flushed the fucking thing down the toilet. I guess the option was, right, she did try and have, I think, Andrew, you were saying, someone, she did try to call a friend, right, to come pick it up, but they were hours away. So there was no way for her to make her flight and hand off pebbles to somebody. I can't imagine she was, like, heading to some, like, insanely important meeting.

Like, she doesn't sound like she's the type of girl who had that thing to get to. It was like, take the, be like, I'll give up my seat for, you know, someone. I don't know. If it was really her fucking support animal, she wouldn't be so quick to flush it down a toilet. She's like, I don't have time. I'm closing a land deal for the Rio Tinto Mining Company. I'm cured. All right. On Thursdays, we like to go through Google Trends, see what is trending out there, see if there's any stories that catch our eye.

And these are a couple of things that jumped out at me. So Cornell University and Zeta Beta Tau are in the news because they have something called a pig roast, which they fed the community. Yeah, no, actually, this this pig roast is when a bunch of frat boys compete to have sex with the largest woman that they can find. And the person who has sex with the largest woman is the winner of the pig roast. Frats are fucking bullshit, dude. Frats are fucking bullshit. Frats are fucking bullshit. And I have met a number of people from Cornell that this seems completely in line with their general vibe.

Of Cornell, what, being just awful people? Yeah, like when Andy from The Office was like, yeah, I went to Cornell and kept bringing it up. I was like, that's about right. I feel like Annie Ivy League school. Yeah. And that's someone who went to one. Oh. I'm just kidding.

I mean, I did. went to one oh i'm just kidding uh i mean i did but um uh but cornell is super fratty and it's and it's super isolated and like ithaca is like a city but it's so like frats always turn into like the worst thing in the world i mean i made it my my goal to just like fuck the fattest frat guy every year and there were no awards back then there were no awards and the rules were in this this pig roast you can't tell anyone. And let me tell you, I told everyone. And pretty legendary frats at Dartmouth, huh? Yeah, the frats at Dartmouth are ridiculous.

That's also because we're insanely isolated. We were in the middle of nowhere. And there was only like 4,000 kids. So everything was very focused around the – all social life was very focused around the frets. So it was awful. Isn't that what Animal House is based on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's people's experience of darkness.

Yeah, so isolated. You start looking at the old man on the mountain and you're like, I would fuck that. He's got a charm. Yeah, he's got a charm. It's like an old world like – Didn't the old man on the mountain fall apart yeah he fell down oh yeah he used to look like john carrey shout out to you when i played hockey i played pretty competitive hockey we used to go to new hampshire a lot and that was the first time i was like what the fuck is the old man on the mountain and then we looked at and i was like all right yeah it was like no it's a profile of a face

but you know when you're when you're 10 years old you're not really impressed like video you're like give me my tyco fucking police academy game uh we were uh getting some hate for or or getting accused of tesla hate and you know i i do think elon musk has a sort of pt barnum vibe uh and might be a little bit full of shit. He also does great things. And they're in the news. Let's see why. Oh, for fucking up big time. They have posted a $619 million loss in Q4. And their Tesla Model 3, which was supposed to drop late last year, is now being pushed to June.

So he's too busy launching cars into space and didn't that fuck up too yeah uh yeah they overshot mars's uh but you know it will not uh go into the asteroid belt that was something that was being rumored uh people were picturing it like having to dodge asteroids and shit. Uh, but that, that won't happen. What's going to happen? Uh, I don't know. It's just not going to orbit Mars.

Just going to fucking pollute some more fucking space trash. Yeah. Hit another. It's not going to hit another planet. Will there's so that's the thing about like the asteroid belt. We picture it like that scene in star Wars where they're having to like dodge asteroids and shit. Asteroid belts,

like they're millions of miles between each asteroid. Right, right, right. Yeah. No, but I'm saying is it conceivable that it could like enter Jupiter's atmosphere or something like that? I don't think so. It's just so – space is so big and planets are so small. It's going to get caught up in some gravity of something and then get pulled into an orbit,

right? And some asshole alien is going to have a free Tesla. Right. I mean, at some point it's going to run out of battery. You're going to get stuck halfway up to five. Groundhog Day 2018 was a trending thing. I was looking at overall trends from the past three weeks, but that was one of the biggest trending stories.

Is this a thing that... I guess it's a thing people talk about is that a thing you guys pay attention to whether the groundhog sees its shadow i feel like like it was in my youth it's one of those things where i completely forgot it was groundhog's day and so i remember looking at it like a couple of days ago right because i was like all right groundhog's dayhog Day. Did he see a shadow? Not that it matters or anything like that. I thought Punxsutawney Phil became obsolete after science. Right, yeah. But, hey, I don't know.

Back when we learned about science. Yeah. Yeah, I guess, and again, in California, that is, we don't have season, so we could give a fuck. Yeah, so maybe I'm just out of the loop. Maybe the East Coast is still all about that. They must they must i mean that search traffic is coming from somewhere yeah

if you're buried in snow for like six months that's true four months in a row you're like can a groundhog at least yeah it's just desperation at this point listen to the big rodent yeah um tom brady's son was a still a trending story um cheddar man let's talk cheddar wait hold on but tom brady's son i'm very interested in this okay i kissed my father in the mouth growing up i still do the katie your father he's a good yeah he's a good he's a great kid yeah um but like so that was seeing so many people being like whoa why is he kissing his son on the mouth which to me is like yo fuck out of here with that right guys and Settle down, guys. And then there are people pointing out that, like, in one of the clips, he's kissing his

son for a long time. Now, is there, can we as a society say there is a limit to, like, when does it get weird? First of all, it was just a little weird that he was getting a massage and having, and his shirt off and all that stuff. But also, it's the Brady household. A lot of crazy things happen, I would imagine. Right. But also it's the Brady household. A lot of crazy things happen, I would imagine. One. Two, the implication is somehow it's a weird sex relationship. And Tom Brady is a pedophile.

You can't see affection between a dad and a son and not think of some sort of terrifying thing. And that is a major issue. And three, the son kissed Tom. He didn't lean in. He was laying down and it was like they just had a thing. It wasn't like. And he rolled his eyes like his dad was like, hey, do you take out the trash? And he's like, oh, all right.

Fine. He's like a nice dad. Yeah, he does. He loves his son very clearly. And he kisses his dad, too. Right. So it's like a tradition. Just fucking back the fuck up, bro.

The Bradys are just into kissing each other. Right. Yeah. At least you're showing your the fuck up, bro. The Bradys are just into kissing each other. Right. Yeah. At least you're showing your fucking kid affection, bro. I know too many men who grew up with their dads being like, no, no, no. Yeah, fuck you, faggot. I'll fucking shake your hand. Yeah.

That kid's going to grow up to be a well-adjusted millionaire. Right. Yeah. That inherited wealth, though. What's your secret, man? Kissing my dad? Kissing my dad. And just inheriting his money.

But yes. I had to stuck his dick for that. Sorry. I could see you X-ing that one out. No. We keep it live. Cheddar Man. Black skin, blue eyes, was the first Briton. First dude in Britain.

This is causing news for some reason i guess because i guess because uh white supremacists in america are like you're an anglo-saxon right and anglo is english and that means like the white race comes from england and england is a place of pure whiteness and this proves you know race race is a social construct. It has no basis in biology or – yeah, genetics. It's just a thing that racists made up at a certain point to justify something that was convenient for them. Yeah, because people like Richard Spencer, they always – they're like, oh, Europeans, Europe. Like the US should be a homeland for all white people, all Europeans.

And now to know a Cheddar Man out here with the wavy hair and the dark skin with his edges laid, he's out here. How do you get the name Cheddar Man? Because that's where they found him in Cheddar, I believe. The cheese is from there. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm learning something. That's interesting.

It'd be funny if it was just like a dumbass name. Like, Cheddar Man over here. Yeah, it sounds a little like stereotyping. Could be a rapper, too. Cheddar Bob from 8 Mile, you know? Yeah, yeah. Pelosi is trending. She is.

And that is because she broke a record for the longest speech in the house yesterday. It was sort of a filibuster, but she stayed on one topic. It wasn't like a filibuster where they read the yellow pages. Yeah, well, technically you can't filibuster in the house. Right. But there is – yeah. The ability to give eight-hour speeches. Yeah, you can talk as long as you want.

One for every inch of heel that she was wearing. Yeah, every article was like – Two foreign heels. And she did it in foreign stilettos. Walking backwards. How does she do it? Because she's fierce, bitch. That's why. Who got the way?

Well, everyone knows women can just go on and on and on and on. So it's not that. No, but what was she? She was talking about dreamers? Yeah, she was reading letters from dreamers, stories about dreamers. She was reading Bible verses. So where are we with this, Miles were explaining to me today well so you know her whole reason was doing this because she outright just does not like the deal that mcconnell and schumer put together because it

does nothing to address immigration and nothing to address the situation of these kids and schumer's okay with that because he has gotten a guarantee from m guarantee from McConnell that he is going to bring to a vote week long. They'll have open debate on immigration and they can do this the right way. Not behind closed doors. Let's let's. That has been guaranteed. And that's what McConnell has said. Again, that's what he said.

You know, he also told Susan Collins a bunch of shit and didn't give it to her. Right. We'll see. And so what Pelosi wants is the same thing from Paul Ryan. And she's not getting. She's not getting it although today he did say do not doubt my

conviction to fixing this DACA problem that's not the same as saying openly promising that yes, or if even the Senate passes something, that they'll bring that to a vote in the House, because the Hashtag rule majority of the majority has to agree to bring something to the floor like that

so yeah, she's just trying to be like look, we of the majority has to agree to bring something to the floor like that. So, yeah, she's just trying to be like, look, we need the same thing over here in the house because nothing will work unless both chambers put something forward. So that's her whole point was like trying to get Paul Ryan to do that. Now, this speech was great. And it's obviously she broke the record for the longest continuous speech. And we're going to play it for you right now. And here we go. Unexcited. Live riffing.

You know, actually, I'm just going to read it back in my Hissy Jones voice. But they – yeah, so again, it was a great moment. It's monumental. But a lot of very progressive activists and even people that are more on the very liberal end of the Democratic Party are just like, dude, this isn't going to mean shit if nothing happens. And that's the thing that really needs to happen is that we really need to make sure that this is addressed and not just like Paul Ryan saying, don't doubt my commitment to this. Then you need to come say, yes, I agree to do the same thing that McConnell does. We can openly discuss this on the floor and come to some kind of bipartisan agreement. that McConnell does, we can openly discuss this on the floor and come to some kind of bipartisan agreement.

Apparently, Paul Ryan is worried about a veto from one of the branches of government that we're not talking about on today's episode. So the fact that that branch has not come down with a clear position is sort of confusing and gumming up the works a little bit. It's also a fucking excuse, though, too. You can say that, but you could also show some leadership. Sort of confusing and gumming up the works a little bit. It's also a fucking excuse though too. Right. You can say that, but you could also show some leadership. Yeah.

Leader what? I'm not going to try and do anything. Yeah. Right. Well, mom's already not going to go for it. Right. Yeah, yeah. So shut up.

Shut up, Paul. Yeah. He's going to go down in history as one of the great appeasers to evil. Oh, yeah. It's going to be very interesting. Everybody. So nuts. The world is so on a cusp.

But hey, we're having fun. All right. For some reason, the Spice Girls are trending. I don't really know. Maybe they're having a – Because they're about to go back on tour. Okay. All five of them.

Wow. With no new music. Wow. And they – Okay. Oh, oh wow that was not enthusiastic because spice world man i fucking saw that shit in the theater wow really yes oh man uh anyway i have i was gonna say a really obscure memory from my childhood which no one is invested in so i will leave that there they all look great like all the pictures they all look great i'm surprised yeah good for i mean look great. I'm surprised. Yeah, good for them. I mean, not that I'm surprised, but like, yo, they're...

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We didn't say it was a Pence-free Thursday. It is Mike Pence. That's right. We didn't say it was a Pence-free Thursday. It is Mike Pence who – so this is a little bit of a strange choice because this is the homophobic for the state of Indiana, which is, you know, that that is an accomplishment. uh, before about how he and, uh, Adam Rippon were, uh, he had reached out to him to try and have a conversation and, uh,

chill bro. Right. Yeah. What's chill bro. I'm not that bad, bro. Hug it out. You gotta meet me.

You gotta meet me. Don't listen to like, don't listen to my, I don't look at those articles about how I'm like, don't fund, you know, people who are trying to, uh,

teach people about the spread of HIV. It's crazy because, yeah, this all stems from the fact that this article came out in 2016 from Pence's campaign website in 2000. It proposed that resources for federal HIV and AIDS programs should not be given to, quote, organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus, but should actually be directed instead to, quote, toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior. Red gay conversion fucking therapy, which has been debunked over and over and over again. I want to change it to have more sex. Yeah, I am always appalled by Mike Pence.

Mike Pence is really what got me into trouble with, like, the extended conservative family that I have about these elections. Because I was like, I don't even care about this other guy. He's terrible, sure. But, like, behind it is all of this, like, evilness, too. I think it's bullshit that he's leading the delegation just because he's such a divisive figure but i guess i mean unfortunately he's also you know the vice president it should have been melania leading the delegation right well because michelle obama did it last time yeah she should just get out go to south korea she's fierce as

fuck all the gays would be like i don't care care. I love you. You're a trapped bitch. We get it. Closets are real. You know? And like, you know, I just, Mike Pence, he's just like, it's just, he's so, it's terrible. It's, I don't know. Whatever. Well, he tried to walk it back. So after that, like we talked about this yesterday, Adam Rippon was like, no, I don't think Mike Pence is a good choice.

And he said that, uh, that someone reached out from Pence's camp to try and talk to him. And then the Pence people were, like, denying it. Then yesterday, later, his chief of staff was like, yeah, no, we did inquire about a meetup. And then today he's even, like, adding him on Twitter. Because clearly, I think we found Mike Pence's trigger is getting called out on his homophobia. Sure. Because before that, I don't remember a single time really talking about this dude. And then he was, at uh 80 rep at his at his hand was like i want you to know we are for you fully capped uh don't let fake news distract you i'm proud of you and all of our great

athletes and my only hope for you and all of hashtag team usa is to bring home the gold go get them that's mike penn saying that yeah that? Yeah, that's his tweet. That was his tweet to try and smooth it over, I guess. I think, one, if you follow Adam on Twitter or Instagram, you will recognize that he is a total hot twink, and so that's probably what Mike Pence is into. That's why he's following him. And two, it is a little strange to me that Adam Rippon,

who is like the, I don't know if he's the alternate on the figure skating team, but he's not expected to medal right um is kind of the person who is getting all of this attention and it's sure it's because he's one of two out openly gay people but it seems like um we're trying to make a giant issue out of something where it was completely his fair right to say i don't fuck with mike his fair right to say, I don't fuck with Mike Pence because Mike Pence doesn't fuck with us. But to make it – I would be happier if there were straight athletes coming out in solidarity with Adam Rippon and Gus Kenworthy, who is the other – Freestyle skier, right? The freestyle skier. Who's probably going to win. Yeah. He's other – Freestyle skier, right? The freestyle skier.

Who's probably going to win. Yeah. He's probably going to win a medal, right? He's a meddling stud. Yeah. A gay meddling stud. But instead, like, you know, we don't hear, I don't know, Lindsey Vonn or – I don't know. Her politics might be weird.

But, you know, we don't hear other athletes coming out in support of this. That it's just an isolated incident. Not only do they have to be the first openly gay – which is nuts because Johnny Weir, we talked about this already. Brian Boitano. But not only do they have the pressure of being the first openly gay athletes on the American team, they also now have this pressure of being in a political fight. And so it does go to those. It's like anyone who assumes like being gay is like easy peasy these days, like being gay is a very politically charged thing in this day and age.

And so like, you know, no matter how private you guys want us to keep it by just like being, it becomes political too. Right. It's just like, it's crazy. I feel for those guys. And I. For sure. Yeah.

Yeah. It would be good to see more athletes like you know just pull up for their teammates and be like yeah this i also agree this man's politics is not jive with ours and but then they get sucked into the media store and they're just trying to win medals and i get it from both from both sides i just that's why i'm just like just let this just go just like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter like mike pence is going to do it america is fucked up in so many ways it's not like us leading us having like a homophobe marches into the into the the stadium is like the biggest problem you know it's the drones that are file who represent it so yeah seriously yeah yeah i already find winter olympic events like so nerve-wracking to watch for the most, like skiers and figure skaters, because I'm always worried that they're going to fall.

Like, so yeah. Well, you would not like the opening of Molly's game. Oh really? Yeah. Cause like her backstory is like, she's like a mobile skier and then like,

she just, oh man, it's just wipes out. I just, that is, it's like, I can deal with like seeing people fall, but it's compound fractures that you can't not see.

That'll get really really worried about. Yeah. You're like, ooh, the ski boot does not look like that normally on someone's foot. All right. And finally, we're going to try something out called Throwback Thursday. We're kind of taking this from Culture Kings. They did a look back at the year 2003, I believe, on one of their recent episodes. 2003, I believe, on one of their recent episodes.

And we wanted to take a look back 20 years at 1998, just because that was the year we were talking about around The Office. And it is a really good year musically and movie-wise. Equemini, which is one of my maybe top three albums of all time, outcast album, came out that year. Just an incredible album oh yeah every cut is amazing miseducation lauren hill miseducation of lauren hill uh miles you wrote down corn follow the leader because you were in middle school at this time angry ass middle school god hates me. And then movie-wise.

Lutheran school, baby. Movie-wise at the time, the movies that were nominated for Oscars were Saving Private Ryan, Thin Red Line, and Shakespeare in Love, which, yeah. I loved it when it came out. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing wrong. I just didn't understand how the best director didn't make the best picture of the year. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

What are you going to do? But also coming out that year that I think have kind of gained, in my esteem at least, Out of Sight is one of my favorite movies. Really? It's a great movie. Yeah. I love Out of Sight. I just like the Zippo work. Yeah.

The Zippo work is dope. I was fucking with Zippo. Their chemistry is pretty palpable. That's Clooney and J-Lo? Clooney and J-Lo. That's a good movie. Yeah, that is a good movie. Yeah.

American History X, Armageddon, Truman Show, all not nominated, but movies that I think people really remember. Big Lebowski? Oh, really? Big Lebowski came out that year. Damn. Godzilla? That is the only movie I've ever watched out of, I've ever walked out of.

You walked out of Godzilla? Yeah, that movie sucked, man. You're going to disrespect me like that? In Japanese culture? It didn't even take place in Japan. Yeah, but it took place in New York. The source material, man. Truman Show actually was such a, it's one of my favorite sort of zeitgeisty things to talk about because it produced a mental illness sort of or it predicted one because following the release of that movie, they started seeing all these cases of what they eventually just called the Truman Show delusion where people would come in reporting that they believed that they were part of a reality show and everybody around them was actors.

They believed that they were part of a reality show and everybody around them was actors. And yeah, they wrote it up in the literature. Somebody went to New York because he believed the 9-11 attacks were fabricated like got deep into the zeitgeist that, yeah, it was like. Oh, everything is revolving around me. Exactly. That's the world that has been pushing on it. I was going to say that also the Unabomber's views on the world were underrated at the beginning of the show because of the way technology has pushed and alienated us from our humanity in a lot of ways. We all need a little Ted Kaczynski. Yeah.

We all just need a little Shaq in the woods to get our minds right. Just a tiny house. Yeah, write our anti-government manifestos in peace. Tiny house. On a typewriter. Big phone that you can't type on. Casey Lai, it has been a pleasure having you man

you guys are great thank you so much for having me where can people find you and follow you and all that stuff you can find me

on the Twitter at Casey W L E Y my last name is Lai spelled L E Y so on Twitter Casey W L E Y Insta

Casey Lai L E Y and then check out my podcast it's called The Gay Power Half Hour I did it with drag queen extraordinaire Tony Soto. And me, you can find us on SoundCloud or iTunes.

Gay Power Half Hour. Thank you all. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGray. And also, if you want to know for all the music that I suggest, and we've suggested on the show, where you can find that, I have put together a Spotify playlist for you to enjoy. It's a public playlist. Just search The Daily Zeitgeist, and it should have our logo on it.

And it's the playlist, not the show. And, you know, I'll be throwing all the tracks on there that you can listen to later, unless it's like some bootleg shit or stuff that isn't available on Spotify. But, yes, that's where you can find all the music. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page.

Just search Daily Zeitgeist. We have a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the articles and source material that we used for today's episode. And that's going to do it for today. Miles, what are we going to write out? Well, look, if we're going back to 1998, I really want to shout out the Black Star album that came out that year with Talib Kweli and Mos Def.

Classic album. And, you know, now that we found out Cheddar Man was a brown-skinned man, what better track than Brown Skin Lady from that album? Because, look, brown-sk skin ladies are doing their thing. Especially Mame Finey, the Ghanaian American speed skater. So do your thing, brown skin ladies. Do your thing, everybody. And just vibe out.

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