The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Is Pro-Vaxx, GoopAnon 8.24.21

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

In episode 975, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Pod Yourself A Gun co-host Matt Lieb to discuss covid vaccinations, Trump being booed at his rally, the milk crate challenge, the Goop cruise, and more!FOOTNOTES: LIVE TDZ SHOW TICKETS! NYC, N.J. Mandate Teacher Shots; U.S. Deaths Climb: Virus Update States gripped by Delta variant face case surge with fewer health workers Covid-19 Updates: F.D.A. Grants Full Approval to Pfizer-BioNTech Covid Vaccine Happy day for me. Several people I care a lot about got the COVID vaccine today, overcoming some hesitancy. What do I say to my patients who are unsure about the vaccine? This: Trump Rally-Goers Lose Their Minds When Rep. Mo Brooks Tells Them to Move Past 2020 Election Trump Booed at His Own Rally for Telling His Supporters to Get Vaccinated Trump Booed At Own Rally, Some Supporters Think He Did It On Purpose The ‘Milk Crate Challenge’ is turning the entire world into ‘Jackass’ stars The Gwyneth Paltrow-Approved Doctor Pushing Wacky Coronavirus Conspiracies GP’s Picks: Healing My Body with a Longer-Term Detox It took a year, but Gwyneth Paltrow figured out how to exploit the pandemic Gwyneth Paltrow Reveals She Has “Long-Haul” COVID. Here’s What She Wants To Sell You Gwyneth Paltrow Responds to COVID-Remedy Criticism: “That Becomes Clickbait” Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop Cruise is ready to set sail Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop Cruises Are Officially Setting Sail This October Batten Down Your Hatches, the Goop Cruise Is Back CDC recommends travelers with high risk of Covid complications avoid cruises LISTEN: Genevieve Artadi - 'Living Like I Know I’m Gonna Die' (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is Tuesday, August 24th, 2021, T-minus one day to the live show. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Tonight we fear Ron. He will set our town on fire. He's a mean fighter. So's his son. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Main

in response to my question about whether Mark Ronson's name comes from somebody being named Ron back in the day. Oh, right. You thought that was right. Ron. The fierce fighter. Here he comes, Ron.

Ron. Dude. Taking back Britannia for the Vikings. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, fresh on a social media cleanse for his own mental health. He's coming back with some tried and true AKAs. It's Hideo Noho, aka the Lord of Lancashire, Miles of Gray.

Thank you for having me. I was just thinking about that i'm like i have to i talk so much about trying to detox off the social media but like i do like i talk shit about it like i'll get it i'll get a streak going for like 24 hours i can't i'm like you know i need to get like a string of games going where i'm just got a streak of hits where i'm avoiding social media yeah we're not talking to you because we don't want to break the streak. We don't want to screw it up and jinx it. Like a pitcher who's got a no-no going.

Yeah. Don't talk about it. I am on acid though. It's amazing. Shout out to Doc Ellis. You got a no-no going. You got a no-no going. Oh.

Yeah. Well, as mentioned a moment ago, we are one day away. Amazing. Shout out to Doc Ellis. You got a no-no going. You got a no-no going. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Huh? Well, as mentioned a moment ago, we are one day away. August 25th, 6 p.m. PST, 9 p.m. on the East Coast. We are bringing you the year 2000 in a live streaming audiovisual extravaganza. We are going to riff on ridiculous pictures. We are going to talk Tom Hanks' pee fetish. We are going to quiz your ass. I'm going to dress like the year 2000. And we have special guest Chris Crofton.

Hopefully he'll show up. We know about him and technology. So if I have to put him in my car, it may have to happen that way. But he will be there. It will be interactive. You can get your takes off in the chat. We'll talk to you all there. And make sure you get your ticket.

Because even if you can't make it at six or nine, depending on where you are, shit, maybe three, maybe you an H-A-W-A-I-I. You can still get your ticket at momenthouse.com slash the daily zeitgeist and watch a video on demand version. But you got to get your ticket at momenthouse.com slash the Daily Zeitgeist and watch a video on demand version. But you got to get your ticket. Yeah, yeah. Momenthouse.com slash the Daily Zeitgeist. All right, Miles.

We are very fortunate to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite TDZ guests. A very funny comedian from Good Mythical Morning and the Star Wars show. He's the co-creator of Newsbroke and the host of the podcast Frotcast and Pod Yourself a Gun, which Miles and I have both been on. He is Mr. Matt Lieb. Matthew Lieb. Done dirt cheap. Matthew.

What's up, guys? I was trying to do a song, too. I like that. That was awesome. Matthew Lieb and. I like that. Matthew Lieb. And I had to do my full name in order to get all the syllables right. But I think it worked out. And if you're vaccinated and you're... I'm sorry.

I was just going to make a really tasteless cum joke. Do it. Matthew Lieb and his cum's dirt cheap. Because anti-vaxxers believe that their semen is the new gold. So, yeah. Matthew Lieb and he licks both cheeks. See, there's a bunch of stuff you could do. I love this.

Matthew Lieb, check out his wicky feet. Dude, my girlfriend, I mean, my fiance. Yeah. Whoa. Come on bro easy there update it she's on wiki feet and there's a picture of her and i together in which she is on wiki feet but i am not on wiki feet even though my feet are next to her on wiki feet and i feel i don't know like i'm just not wiki feet famous yet yeah and uh i hope to get there today after this podcast wait the picture has you as with open toe like your feet are exposed we're both wearing sandals we're like at the beach or something you're wearing sandals in public i mean man that's feminine bro that's feminine like sandals feminine like sandals told me from a young age and that's a minimum

and feminine like sandals i fucking i had a minimum. And feminine like sandals. I had a whole thing about not wearing sandals for a minute. Because of that specifically? I just heard the GZA. I mean, GZA is a genius. And despite his regressive, toxic masculinity, I was like, oh, maybe his sandals are feminine, bro. I mean, they are thong sandals. So I kind of see where he's coming from.

You know what i mean or you do that which is funny because at a certain age like a lot of old black men they rock the same kind of leather strapped covered sandal which is very ironic to me like it's like a certain age where like my grandfather wearing them then i saw like my uncle start wearing them my dad hasn't quite got there yet, but people know if you know that, that strappy leather sandal, that the older black men in the community rock, but it covers the toes. They stay modest with it. Yeah. It's a bit of a, yeah. It has like, even though there's some, you know, the air can get through the toes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. Yeah. Keep that, you know, you need that space between you and God. Like only God can know what your disgusting toes look like.

Here's the thing. I don't like people looking at my toes. I don't want them to look at my toes. But if I were famous enough and people happen to look at my toes on the internet, I'd be like, oh, shoot, that's too bad. And then move on with my life. That's me in a panic if I don't cut my toenails. I'm like, oh, shit, I got to cut my toenails. And then you go out to do a thing and you got sandals on.

You're like, fuck. I'm trying to curl my toes underneath I got to cut my toenails. And then you go out to do a thing and you got sandals on. You're like, fuck. I'm trying to curl my toes underneath my feet. I'm always doing that because my toes are so long. I know my toes are too long because both of my kids, when they have gotten to the age of being able to talk and notice weird things, have commented on my feet without any prompting. How long are we talking here? I got real long toes, bro. We got like a bear's claw. Like you're a marsupial?

Yeah. It's pretty long. We'll bring him out for the live show. Honestly, seriously, you can make some good money bringing that out for the live show. It's probably someone's fetish, right? Doesn, doesn't it all get started when you're like a kid and you're

just around? Anything is up to date. Anything can make me horny. Just watch. Just watch. That is my promise to you on this show. Well, Zykan, get Matt's feet up on WikiFeet so there's some balance to the relationship.

Come on. Alright, Matt,'s a balance to the relationship. Come on. Yeah, yeah. All right. Matt, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. The FDA has approved the vaccine. I wasn't like on this news story so much. Like I wasn't waiting on this.

I didn't know that that was something people were waiting on. But apparently, you know, in anti-vax circles, that was one of the excuses they were using. It's something people are pretending to be waiting for. Right. And now, but this is big news because they will be able to mandate the vaccine, which is, I think, our only way out of this shitstorm that we're in. Speaking of the vaccine, way out of this shit storm that we're in. Speaking of the vaccine, we are going to talk about Trump and Mo Brooks. They're trying out some new material in Alabama, you know, just workshopping. Went up there with their notebook, like Chris Rock, when he's trying out new material. And it was, it didn't go great for them. They bombed. They bombed, man. It was not good.

They're not digging the new shit. It's hard to write, dude. People, you know, they think it's easy up there. Nah, man, there's a lot of, I mean, I wonder if like they go to racist open mics just to try out new catchphrases. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're on Laura Ingraham's show pretty frequently. So it's true.

A lot of racists think that they should just wait until the racism like strikes them just like the inspiration but trump i hear is up every morning at eight o'clock just with his notepad just working out ideas just writing down racist ideas just yeah i always thought he was more like a mark maron type he just goes up there and whatever race he has in his head you know that's what he wants you to think that dude is dedicated yeah that's why he's so good at it that it seems natural it seems like it's coming off the dome but that is and a lot of jazz musicians look down because you know a true jazz solo isn't pre-written you know you're right you get the chart you know where the changes aren't and you go from there he pre-writes his solos and i think that's kind of yeah Yeah, that is shocking. You know, it's unfortunate,

but it looks, it looks real. It looks real. Yeah. We're going to talk about the crate challenge and we're going to talk about goop cruise, which is a new adopted child of Tom Cruise. Yes.

Tom Cruise's new baby. No, it's there. There's a new goop cruise coming and it just brings together all the, all the good stuff about modern, about this moment in America. Wait, so you're saying like Gwyneth Paltrow Goop Cruise? Yes. Okay, so that's already, you're talking about woo-woo wellness on a cruise ship in a pandemic?

Ooh! Ow! Yes. Chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-woo-woo, you know what I mean? It's a train, but close enough. Yes. Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, woo-woo. You know what I mean? It's a train, but close enough. Yeah. Woo-woo. There it is.

There it is. Yeah. Potent cocktail that we can all look forward to there. What a combo. But before we get to any of that and where you can get your tickets for the goop cruise matt we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history sure the most recent thing that i looked up was i googled the odd father because uh there's this guy vincent the chin gigante i i just did uh he's a mobster i just did one of the other I Heart Podcasts, Ridiculous History.

And we were doing weird mafia and crime stories. And there's basically this guy, Vincent the Chin Gigante. He pretended to be mentally ill for 40 years in order to not go to prison. And it is just this incredible ruse that he went away every time he went outside he would just like dress like a hobo and just like talk to himself and he was like you know peeing you know on walls and talking to parking meters and shit like that all just so that he could basically you know not get convicted of things due to like mental illness or whatnot right call that malingering yeah i mean he actually did successfully avoid he he like ran the genevese

crime family for like 20 years and avoided prison up until like 1997 all because they couldn't they just had to they couldn't pin things on him because no one would ever talk about him. They would touch their chin in order to talk about him. Or they would put a, I think it was a C. Yeah, that's right. For the chin, which also is Crips. Right.

So he's like the first Crip, if you think about it. But, and yeah, he just, he spent his whole career just being like, I got to go to school. I got to kill a bird. And then he would go inside and be like, hey, we got to kill these guys. And then he would go outside again. And then, like, he would just keep doing that over and over. And the FBI knew it the whole time. They're like, this guy's faking it.

Like, how do we prove it? How do we prove it? Yeah. You know, it's hard to convince a judge. But, yeah, it's a pretty incredible story they finally got him yeah they they finally got him and then even when he was in prison for like six years he continued the ruse wow just hoping that appeal will come through yeah yeah and then eventually when it didn't like maybe three years before he died during like an

arraignment hearing for something else. He admitted, yeah, it was, I was just, you got me. He was like, you guys got punk. You guys are good.

You're good. You're good. I thought I was good. Y'all are better. I mean, he is the, he's the Jared Leto of the mafia. If you think about it, like he went,

he went like full method. Right. The entire career. and you got to respect that you got to respect the commitment that it takes to avoid a severe prison sentence to avoid a severe prison sentence and also the love of the game because like part of that is just like he did not enjoy being a mafioso like he even said like if i had to do it all over again i think i would have did it a different way. I would have been an actor.

That's what I always said about, like, you could have been an actor. Spoiler alerts for anybody who hasn't seen Usual Suspects. But I've always said that it's so weird that Verbal Kit, like, is just such a, like, drama. Like, he's giving, like, this incredible detailed performance the whole time it's like wow this dude is just like basically a blocked actor he like always wanted to be an actor and instead became like the prince of darkness right it's just like you know giving like a very you know studied performance of somebody who speaks a certain way even though he's like from a different country. Like what, what at the end, when the,

when there's that reveal, like his entire persona changes. So yeah, he starts walking straight and everything, but I've always been interested in like what it would be like if a real mobster tried that, like how, how,

what their performance would be like. I'd imagine it was like a very problematic approximation. I know that's like, cause you know, he did a terrible job with it. I'd imagine it was like a very problematic approximation. Oh, I know. That's like, because you know he did a terrible job with it. He did a mobster's version of mental illness. Yeah. That dude was just doing I am Sam the whole time. Right.

People were like, this is, number one. This is Oscar worthy. But like mostly they're just like the FBI is about to arrest him and Twitter is about to cancel him. So he's got everything after him. You know? Yeah. It's a bummer. Wow.

Call that an Omni crisis. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? At home composting. So Francesca, my fiance, we, like, one of those barrel. Do you guys compost at home? No, we do not. I have a composting bin, but I haven't, like, fucking fucked with it yet.

So, it's kind of like a fly casino at the moment. It's more like an incubator for future flies, a.k.a. a maggot form. It's a pink tank. It's a pink tank. She really wanted to compost and, you know, because like in San

Francisco when we lived there, they have like citywide composting. The green bin in San Francisco is for compost. So it's like they actually, the city takes it and whatever, turns it into soil or whatever the hell it is. But no, so we here, you don't, they don't do that in LA. So we got this like tumbler and you put all of your like scraps of like, I don't know, like veggie scraps and stuff like that. No meat or anything. Right, right.

Oh, you can't put meat in anything right right oh you can't put meat in there no you can't hey i'll be right back hold on chicken's all right though right that ain't yeah yeah no you can put an alive chicken in there and then tumble it for a while but yeah so uh we put all these like veggie scraps in there and she just got she got really into the idea but she didn't read like past step two which was like buy the bin put the trash you know the scraps in the bin and now we just have like this giant bin filled with trash and flies and so many maggots dude just it's just so many and i keep being like so when do we when does this turn into soil or something? And she's like, I know, I have to look that up.

And she hasn't. That's a real e-mail. She hasn't done it. So we have this, like, smelly extra trash thing. And then also, like, you have to, like, basically tumble it and then dry it. And it takes a few weeks. But we keep building up more and more compost. So there's more of these, like, little bags of, like, scraps and scraps and stuff and there's nowhere to put them so she puts them in the freezer so now our freezer is just filled with like bags of scraps of different like coffee grounds and just disgusting

like like corn husks and things like that and there's barely any food in it now it's just non-food that used to be food and i'm just i i'm trying to be like i'm like secretly throwing a few of them away hoping she doesn't notice right at some point you have to go like hey we're all gonna die anyways right you know from climate change what is one compost tumbler what if we just throw this banana peel away today? Honestly, just throw the banana peel away. Yeah. But you can't convince her of that. Zyte can't help us.

We just have messy trash piles. Yes. What is the green one for? Because there is green trash cans in L.A. That green one is for, like, garden scraps or something? But, like, I also put, like, old food in there. That's what I'm saying. I was thinking, like, who's going to know if there's, like, you know, oh, there's some grass clippings and then also some eggshells.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what is that? How does it? I mean, I don't even know what they do with the the other stuff i'm just saying this at home composting is uh it's for the birds this uh like uh soren buoy who's been a guest on the show before he is the one person i know who has like successfully composted at home and then like used it to like fertilize his own

garden that he planted and he has like it's like yeah the avocados are huge man like come through oh man i remember that build his own furniture and i'm just like he he had he does it at a level that i find uh discouraging because it's like yeah it's like i'm never gonna do that man yeah yeah he's setting the bar too high we we went to soren's house once during like avocado fest when it was like go to soren's and you're leaving with like a fucking construction trash bag of avocados yeah when he's like yeah there's an avocado tree when i looked up and saw the bounty that was on that tree i almost fucking died of shock because i was like how the fuck do you have this many up like i had yeah at my house growing up as a kid there was an avocado

tree that like whose branches would kind of come over into our side of the yard and then fucking squirrels were fucking eating them all the time you couldn't get to right and he's like no i've sorted it out i don't know if that meant he was beaten you know shooting now he's got a bb gun and then just a squirrel graveyard in his backyard right yeah just just horrifying like saw like a carnival of torture devices for like squirrels behind his garage little tiny adorable escape rooms that you're putting all the squirrels in if you work together then you can escape if you look closely the branches are lined with pikes in which I put the squirrel's heads on as an example to the newcomers. You're like, oh, okay. You know what?

I don't need an avocado. Have you ever left a smashed fly on the wall just as an example? Let them know. Oh, I've definitely done it. I don't think that they actually. They don't understand. They don't care. Yeah.

That's why they're hard. The hardest animals in the galaxy. They're hard as fuck. They're so hard. The closest I'll ever come to having a hunting trophy on a wall is just like a smashed fly. They're so hard. They're just like, fuck you, bitch. I was born in a trash can.

You're like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mr. Fly. What is something you think is underrated, Matt? Bidets. Let's talk about bidets for a second. I have a bidet.

I mean, do you guys have one of those bidets on your toilet? Tushy, yep. Yeah, yeah. Sponsor Tush. I just, like, I never knew that life could be so different. It's one of those, like, few like few times where like a technology has truly changed my life it was like the iphone oh you got this joint oh shit this is like a japanese toilet seat style bidet yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's like it's got a little uh a nozzle that comes out and

just sprays water like high powered waterpowered water, straight into my asshole, which is just an incredible thing. I thought it was just like a little bit of a spritz just to kind of— This is community service getting graffiti off the alley wall. Yes, exactly. Exactly. I've got whole murals that have been taken out of the inside of my colon. It's like—it is an incredible feeling. And but now when I go out to literally anywhere else.

Oh, you can't you don't know how to live. I don't know how to live. I'm like using way too much toilet paper because like I just I need a clean asshole. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? a clean asshole yeah you know what i'm saying you take it for granted how how like you know i've been wandering the earth only using a bidet when i would like visit japan when i was like you know growing up that's where like a bidet was regular and then back here it was just toilet paper fest and until yeah i got this thing on my toilet it's it ruins you because you're like you said you get used to this level of cleanliness that you're like yeah damn bro like i was fucking up my entire life my whole life and it's it's just really like now i feel disgusting like i want to take a full shower now whenever

i go poo-poo in a place that doesn't have a bidet and uh it's just it's it's unfortunate but i will say that it is just absolutely underrated in the united states how incredible bidets are and i feel like we need to i don't know like there should be a government program that puts a bidet in everyone's home and just is like trust me and i think it would actually establish some trust of the federal government within lots of these communities you know like communities that are just like i don't know about you know the government coming here trying to tell me what to do if you put a bidet in there i guarantee you they'd be like oh maybe like the government like does some looking out for us yeah like uncle sam hook my sphincter up

straight up yeah i mean i think it would be it would be good for the world like step one universal basic bidets right step two universal basic income step three universal health care you know there it is three-point plan boom three-point plan elect matt lee for president president of that bus i'm sorry. Oh, God. Oh, you've ended your campaign? Oh. My wife's next to me. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen. I resign. This was a mistake.

Are there, like, in France, are there bidets in public restrooms? That feels like that would be. That might be a bridge too far. Yeah. I've never been to France because I'm an American and I'm proud. Oh, that's dope. Yeah. Good for you. I also don't like to be made fun of because I'm not willing to learn another language while I'm there.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the one place where they're really, they really like make fun of you for not knowing French. Which is nice, you know, because people should get used to the idea that everywhere is not America. Yeah, that is true. But yeah, I mean, Japan, like in Japan, for example, a lot of public bathrooms do have like the futuristic toilet seat that will have a bidet. Not everywhere, but it's not a surprise if you go somewhere like, no, they got it here. I'm ready. I mean, they must have a system for cleaning it that I just don't know about.

Because, yeah, I do think if I were in a public restroom and I saw a bidet, I'd be like, I don't know if I want it. The thing is, you know, I just think we'd ruin it. What first world country has the most disgusting public restrooms? I'd be willing to guess it was America. Yeah, 100%. Like, for sure. I mean, I haven't been to Germany or whatever,

but I bet if you went to fucking Germany and went to a public restroom, you'd be like, this is really clean. Is this a hospital? Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, we've talked before america's got some like you know push stress down in one place and it pops up in another stuff going on so like you know i i feel like i've been in public restrooms where it's like oh somebody was like get working something out yeah someone was going through something here. Some people just piss on the walls.

Yeah. They're like, yeah, this is, I guess, this is the release valve for some people to desecrate a public bathroom. I can't follow the resentment logic that leads to doing a doo-doo

on top of the toilet seat, but I know it's based on resentment. i just don't know why yeah yeah what are we resenting here well we're gonna talk about people yeah okay exactly we're not being treated humane you think we're gonna treat these bathrooms you mainly fuck out of here uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about resentment. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so, good news. The FDA approved the Pfizer vaccine, which I didn't know we were waiting for, but apparently that makes it possible for companies and institutions to start mandating the

vaccine. The Pentagon has moved to immediately make the vaccine a requirement for all 1.4 million active duty service members, which I have to imagine that's going to be a big shift. United Airlines will make it a requirement for employees to show proof of vaccination within five weeks. We'll make it a requirement for employees to show proof of vaccination within five weeks. I can't. I think this is the only way that we start making progress, right? I mean, you know, it's something. It just feels like everything feels like a drop in the bucket.

Because my first thought would have been like, wait, we don't have our servicemen and our airline people vaccinated already? Of course. I thought we did that, you know? I thought that was step one. I thought that was step one. It was just like, you know, and then you realize, like, I mean, we've got so many people to go, but that just feels like a drop in the bucket. bucket what about all the millions of people who are either you know not able to get like easy access to the vaccine or the people who are just like you know they've been red-pilled by you know idiots online and just uh refuse to get it so i i don't know i mean i think it's a good first step yeah it feels like it makes it harder to like for someone to then be able to like you know reject it

and keep their job because we saw you know amy Amy Coney Barrett like ruled with the side of Indiana University to be like, no, they can mandate a vaccine for like students like that's where I have. We've been doing that for a long time. Yeah, I'm not I'm not getting involved with that. And yeah, and this I'm sure just gives people, especially, you know, employers more cover. And I think on some level, hopefully, right, there's like a psychological effect where people will begin to embrace it. Because like we were saying earlier, the whole like, well, good luck taking an experimental vaccine. It's not even FDA approved. those are now those talking points are now moot because when you look at it like the vaccine has been approved they didn't change anything they're like in the state that they've been giving it to people we approve it so it's not like they're hitting us with pfizer 2.0 the fucking remix that's been fda approved but yeah it is a curious thing because you'd hope that for people that were saying or so adamant about like well i'm just worried that it's not fda approved like i can understand if you have a fear around it i can

respect that but if you then pivot to some other shit and you start bringing up george soros then i knew that was just cover this whole time because really this is a philosophical thing that you're engaged in not anything to do with like what the actual scientific knowledge is. Yeah. There's this thread from a doctor who just like kind of described how he deals with people who are vaccine hesitant. And it was just, it's kind of, we'll link off to it in the footnotes, but it's, it just felt like something to aspire to because my experience with people who are vaccine hesitant i have not been patient it's so hard it's been very counterproductive though and like a little boy scared to get into breaking me off you're proving my point i do use a dumb guy voice.

Just yell ignorant at them. No, but he, so this doctor is like, okay, so first I say, talk to me. I'm happy to spend as much time with you as you need to discuss COVID and the vaccine, which like right there, step one, that is the opposite of what I want to do is like spend a lot of time hearing somebody spit a bunch of like, you know, conspiracy theories that they read on Facebook back to me. But then he has like good data. He's saying over 95 percent of doctors got the vaccine as soon as it was available to them. If you focus on physicians who actually care for COVID patients, it's nearly 100 percent.

And he's like, I'm vaccinated. My whole family is vaccinated. We even got my 11-year-old a fake ID to get her vaccinated. No corners were cut in the development of these vaccines. That's something you hear a lot, that they cut corners just to get it out. Well, that's the emergency authorization thing that they always talk about. It was an emergency authorization, and now hopefully, well, no, that's the same thing. Yeah, and he's also saying the only thing that was cut was red tape.

They just, like, made it so that this was the top priority. Yeah. Don't you guys hate red tape? Isn't that part of your entire philosophy? These guys are just like, oh, these government bureaucrats, red tape, America, freedom, do the thing you want to do. And then it's like, oh, okay, they've cut all the red tape for this vaccine. Well, that's suspicious. Yeah.

Why would you do that? What's really going on? What's really happening here? Yeah. He's just so patient. Your questions, skepticism are okay and need to be addressed. skepticism are okay and need to be addressed. He brings up this idea of that they're like one of the actually scientifically backed risks of the vaccine is myocarditis or heart muscle inflammation after the second dose to the tune of about 50 cases per million. But he points out that with

COVID, like if they catch COVID, it's actually 500 to 3000 cases per million. So it's like not even close, which is the bigger risk. So it's like, I don't know, he does a good job, but he like acknowledges the one thing that like, I understand if this is the thing that's making you hesitant, like just take, I understand like at first blush, that makes sense to me that you would be like hesitant about that however like if you just look at the data a little bit further and like actually stick with it you'll see that that's not accurate i understand people you know like having a hesitancy

for like putting something in their body that they don't know what's in it and stuff like that or like i i understand that people have that so it's like there's some rational there's got to be a way to talk to these people in a way that like doesn't put them down and doesn't like make them feel like dirt and doesn't make it because as soon as you put them down they feel like it's you know it becomes part of the culture war it's like it becomes an issue of like well you know that's just you and your you know liberal clowns making fun of us regular folks so it's like you do need to try to be kind with it if you're in a position where you have to be as someone who's not in a position where i have to convince anyone i just have no patience at all for it don't get on people yeah i mean especially since like i i don't understand like i listen i'm a i'm an ex-heroin addict i put so much stuff i don't even know what i put in my

bloodstream like it was just like whatever the guy gave me i was like that's probably not gonna kill me immediately looks good yeah yeah oh is it brown oh Oh, good. Brown, good color. And then just directly into the bloodstream. So, you know, I don't fully understand the hesitancy, but, you know, I understand that most normal people don't. limited experience dealing with people who are vaccine hesitant. I've, or like hearing about people who I know who are vaccine hesitant. I've, I definitely feel like I could add a little bit more of this sort of just patience and like understanding. Yeah. Understand. Because I mean,

like just generally across the board, like we're now back to a thousand like COVID deaths a day. It's like what we're all going through here is fucking it's brutal it's not psychologically healthy but like it's there's we're going through a shared trauma and i i'm just gonna try to have like compassion for like recognize that as i'm like getting like clenching my fists and getting ready to like scream that's why i feel like it's important to figure out if people are anti-vax or vaccine hesitant. Right.

Because I think some people will use the language of anti-vaxxers and are actually just scared. And I'd soon, I have more compassion to arrive at a conversation with someone where we just get to the point where it's like, we're not going to, don't wave vaccine figures in front of my face if you're not willing to get this vaccine because what you're talking about isn't the same thing as what i'm talking about if you're scared and this this movement has just given you a way to articulate your fear around it that's a completely separate issue and i have a little bit more to be like you know what that's fine i can work i work with scared. I can't work with angry and thinks they know more than fucking a hospital.

Those are just completely different sort of planets that we're on. And yeah, I guess patience will work. But I mean, when you have a third of Republicans who are just still like, I'll never, I don't give a fuck what it is, then you're still looking at some interesting outcomes yeah have you guys been watching any of russell brand's content recently

no it's yeah it's exactly what you like without even thinking about it you're like ah shit i know exactly where he falls on this and uh someone posted a video of it and he was doing a lot of like kind of hedging he's not saying he's anti-vax or anything but he's just like i've got a little question to bear so i can't do his voice but you know he's like oh you know it's just how come i say one thing and then i'm 25 she says another thing and uh i was like ah shit even if he's like just trying to be inquisitive yeah like it worries me about media figures sometimes who kind of fall into like the wellness space because i'm like i i i think it behooves you and it behooves the rest of the world if you're in that wellness space as

like a media figure to try to de-radicalize people rather than feed into their fears. You know, because it's true. There are things that the government, you know, fucked up. And there are things that like, you know, vaccine efficacy may not be as perfect against Delta as everyone thought it was going to be. There's a lot of breakthrough cases. But like your audience is ready for you to say some like you know crazy q anon shit about vaccines and soros you need to lead them away from that shit that's what that's what i

think so russell if you're listening come on man do better yeah yeah he is big he is that gang oh hell yeah he keeps trying to come on and we're like, nah, bruv. Sorry. Sorry, bro. Leave it fam. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and, uh, talk about kind of a, a big breakthrough for, uh, the vaccine when it comes to thought leaders on the right,

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because COVID was getting so bad. And he's y'all let's get together all of us the unprotected and ill in one place to scream at the top of our lungs and you know you look at alabama they hit negative icu capacity last week negative icu which is like a fuck it's like the weirdest thing to even try and conceptualize that you even like have a way to articulate negative capacity which is like yeah we we throw motherfuckers out i guess yeah that's that's just people are dying in the streets that's what that's like people dying in waiting rooms yeah or the hallways and things like that it's fucking grim and you know no matter how you look at this whole situation the red states are getting hit the hardest by covid and the data only supports is more like first it was sort of anecdotal and then you're like you really look at the numbers like nah man like just you can

tell there's a rhetorically republicans do not want to be vaccinated or believe in any kind of like mitigation techniques or anything so i think that's probably why we saw kind of like that soft turn with the republicans like two months ago where they're like hey you know it's not that bad and just kind of leave it like just so they're on wax saying that shit right so but these rally goers on saturday they got fucking served a double dose of what in the holy fuck are you talking about when trump and mo brooks took the stage to say some of the wildest shit i think they have ever heard at any kind of gop rally so first i want to bring up mo brooks because as you remember this is the man who's To say some of the wildest shit I think they have ever heard at any kind of GOP rally. So first, I want to bring up Mo Brooks, because as you remember, this is the man who's being sued by Eric Swalwell.

Like to be like, hey, you're sort of contributed to the inciting of a riot because you went on stage and you're like, you ready to fucking die for this shit? And you had a fucking bulletproof vest on kind of a high, high risk maneuver. Plus, you know, he's representing himself in court. He got up there and he said come on y'all like he he was essentially saying we need to kind of look forward we got to get over the 2020 election i'm sorry get over the big fucking lie that let's just watch this little moment where the crowd was absolutely fucking just confused when they saw this he's saying beat them in 2024 beat them in 2022 people screaming they look mad Boo

Boo I fucking hate you Boo We're not winning We're stealing What are you fucking talking about They're doing that thing I've only seen

I'm sorry go ahead They're doing that thing I've only seen angry crowds Doing movies Where like He's like shouting And like pointing at the guy Like fuck you I'm mad at you

You see the one woman doing the double thumbs down Yeah that rolls It's real and again This is what they had these people Fucking doing the fuck What is that shit from Clockwork Orange The fucking Ludovico treatment basically basically, with your eyes spread open. Yeah, this big lie shit.

And you think you can just pull up to this rally and be like, hey, we got to get past this shit because, you know, I'm currently under investigation. I got a lot. So I need to kind of build some momentum for my defense, which is I was always talking about further elections. Hey, what's up, everyone? glad to be here on the advice of my counsel i want to say get masked up uh trump lost the election and uh i'll see you later so just saying let's move on and beat them in 2022 is what they were getting pissed off about yeah because they want they want a solution now for him to be reinstated. Yeah, they want a final solution, you know, to the election problem, you know?

No, because he already won in their eyes. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't say, you know, we got to beat him in 2022, even though, like, rationally, it's like, okay, yeah, but you got to, I mean, are they not going to gonna vote that would be sick if they all just were like i'm not voting in this fake election please i mean yeah where's that like psyop from like you know right like truly just get in infect that world and be like dude don't even

vote don't even vote this is how we win by protesting without voting but then they're gonna but then with that you i don know, it's such a fucking slippery slope because no one believes in anything. A number isn't even a fucking number anymore to these people. That wasn't even really the knockout vote. So that was a little bit of a teaser. That was an amuse-bouche shit.

That was the undercard. For the real heavy hitter, Dear Leader took the fucking stage. And he said, yo, you ready for this one? Y'all ready for this? Yeah, for the real heavy hitter, Dear Leader took the fucking stage. Okay. And he said, yo, you ready for this one? Y'all ready for this? It's real.

And he said, I'm not even, I'm sure you heard about this, but I'll just share with you. He got to the stage and Donald Trump shared his thoughts on the COVID vaccine. Three days, less than nine months. And it's great. And you know what? I believe totally in your freedoms. I do agree. You got to do what you have to do.

But I recommend take the vaccines. I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines. You got that. That's OK. You got your freedoms. But I happen to take the vaccine.

If it doesn't work, you'll be the first to know, okay? I'll call up Alabama. I'll say, hey, you know what? But it is working. But you do have your freedoms. You have to keep, you have to maintain that. You have to maintain that. And you got to get your kids back to school.

Oh, my God god what a spineless fucking creep this man he is so averse to any kind of conflict the second the crowd he goes yeah and i he even said he you're out there i thought you're advocating right for me obviously this man doesn't live by any kind of morals or anything but he's like yeah i got it they go boo and he's immediately like yeah yeah no smoke. I don't want smoke. That's fine. Y'all got to do you.

Y'all got to do you. But I got it. So, you know, don't come for me, but, you know, do you. Do you. Wow. That is the first time that I felt like maybe he won't run in 2024 or, like, won't win. I don't know. That seems like very, I don't know what what's he doing

i don't i mean this is amazing i think he you know is going to because here i think he's looking ahead a little bit because like at some point i think i hope i don't know like covid will hopefully be over someday and then he'll have to, like, run for president. And I think, I don't know, I think he knows that at the end of the day, the vaccines do work. And that he is going to be held responsible more and more for the fact that, like, he is, you know, part of this movement that is going to end up killing hundreds of thousands of people. He already has. Yeah. I mean, it just makes it clear that he's like playing a pretty bad hand. Oh yeah.

And again, you, like, as we've said, the people who really have fucking power, like, you know, fucking corporations and like Titans of industry,

they're fucking screaming at these people to be like, dude, if we have to shut down again, I'm going to fucking lose it. Right. Get these people fucking vaccinated so they can come in a fucking olive garden or you can kiss your money goodbye or like figure some other shit out. I'm going to lose it. Specifically your pension. Yeah, right.

Yeah. But more than like, you know, doing what's right for party or whatever the money is really the god in this country and if the money if the revenue starts slowing down that's the issue not people dying and so you can tell that's where it's like yeah i kind of got it you know walmart if the fucking waltons are like yo man y'all gotta get vaccinated right i don't know how conservatives are going to be like no man fuck them i don't know what the fuck they're talking about. But the take, though, like you're saying, it's confusing, right? If you're a conservative, like, what the fuck did he just say?

Because while some of them were like, boo, you could tell some people were having a head-scratching moment when he said, get the vaccine. I got it. It works. They're like, wait, what? I thought we weren't. And I just want to point out on Wonkette, they did a little diving into websites like,

I'm not going to even out on Wonkette, they did a little diving into like websites like, you know, just sort of I'm not even shout out the actual URL. But you'd like these conservative media popular message boards. They talk to one person described it as this. This is explaining this is why Trump said he's fucking with vaccines. Quote, If this hasn't been said already, mainstream media narrative has been that the majority are vaxxed and we are the unreasonable minority. I don't believe this. And we can't share the dangers of the jab fast enough to save each new target audience. You know, mainstream media can't pass up a chance to show Trump getting booed. You know, Trump isn't afraid

of contradiction. So this brilliant strategist has given Bama the opportunity to boo the vax in one voice loud and clear and get the message out to others who think slash thought they were in the minority so that's right four-dimensional chess dude hell yeah they can't possibly believe that right i like that no no one believes anything everyone it's hard but i'm saying that's all they're sort of left with because that's the other thing that a lot of right-wing people like people who monitor right-wing extremism are saying it's all they're sort of left with, because that's the other thing that a lot of right wing people like people who monitor right wing extremism are saying is like, dude, all the lies that they've been fed the last year, like one after another, just take an L after L. And like we're getting laughed at for all this shit that they believe in. Like, it's starting to get like really tense with people not knowing what to do with all this fucking energy and expectation they put into these like conspiracy theories.

with all this fucking energy and expectation they put into these like conspiracy theories. And so this other woman they showed on there's a clipping from Twitter where one woman said, why is Trump pushing the vaccine? He seems to be strongly recommending it. And that's not settling with me. Please help me understand why he's doing this, please. Then another MAGA person is like, I think they altered the vaccine after he left office. They have also suppressed the real data on negative reactions. I honestly think he doesn't know the truth about them. Look at Hannity, for example. They still trust the medical establishment. Then that same woman replies to that and says, I find it hard to believe with all the info that's coming out about vaccine injuries and deaths. If someone like myself is aware, I can't imagine someone who spearheaded the campaign and has a genius IQ is not aware of the danger.

who spearheaded the campaign and has a genius IQ is not aware of the danger. So, uh, buddy, he has a genius IQ. I love, I love that. I love that. They look at Trump and they're like,

this guy's a fucking genius. This is the smartest man I've ever seen in my life. I mean, there's a little, or there's a little bite of like cynicism there where there's, they're starting to turn. Yeah. Cause I'm sure.

Yeah. I don't know. But see, this is like one of those i think this whole like with trump getting into the gop it sort of started like oh my gosh the inmates are running the prison and then suddenly now the inmates are from the maga prison are now running the it's like this fucking meta inmate running it's like oh like snake eating its own tail like infinitely that you're like who is in who's in charge here who has any kind of who can actually direct this thing yeah i mean it's like a it's a radicalization like perpetual like vicious cycle in warp speed so we're just gonna see more and more you people, because if there's no leadership in here, then if Trump isn't the leader of this, then who is? And whoever takes the mantle, it's just going to be, I mean, it's literally these guys just believe algorithmic created like AI memes.

You know what I mean? Like these are not, these are not even like human run, like misinformation campaigns a lot of the time. And the robots are taking over. It's just they're doing it in the weirdest way possible. That's a really good point. Yeah, we have reached the singularity. And in addition to the Internet being like this hive mind that's smarter than us, it is actively making us dumber. So it's just creating more and more separation yeah it's like derrick string of numbers told me that

water gives you erectile dysfunction and i believe him the most okay all right let's talk great challenge real quick this is oh boy i've got in it oh yeah i just saw it because of you put this in the down so it's pretty pretty cool if for people who don't know if you haven't been on the internet at all the last two weeks you may have missed this trend that is blowing up hashtag crate challenge where these people are doing like a gradual like pyramid of milk crates up to like 10 crates tall and then going back down to one and doing this challenge of can you walk up this fucking pyramid of crates and ascend and descend this fucking pyramid a lot harder than it looks i know people at home if you haven't seen it you're thinking i could do that shit i don't know and but here's the thing as anyone who's been a stupid

kid who's stood on a fucking stack of anything that wasn't cinder like fucking cinder blocks yeah you know shit gets wobbly up top the way it's like whoa but everybody raise your brokenness wrists in unison for who made that fall and this book so the reason i bring this up is that there's like like over there's like thousands like maybe tens of thousands of videos under this hashtag. And I've barely seen one successful one. All I see are wild injuries from people falling the fuck off this thing so high. Directly on their face.

Yeah. Like directly on their face. Or like scorpioning where their fucking ass cheeks are hitting the back of their head and shit like that. And you're like, oh my God, what the fuck are y'all doing and it just kind of it just reminds me of like our propensity for these kinds of things on the internet especially like with americans like this whole thing of like the appeal of a challenge where all the evidence just shows you it's pain and suffering but it's still like yeah man gotta try that shit i yeah i'm really like looking at this now i'm like what is what's where are we right now because we've seen this

before the one where it's like hey light your shit on fire remember the the fire challenge you get in the shower and fucking set your shit on fire and stuff like that you're like this is fucking dumb but this one now like i just feel like get in the shower and set yourself on fire i i've missed all these yeah people like feel like get in the shower and set yourself on fire i i've missed all these yeah people like putting like alcohol on their chest and then yeah flame like letting their chest flame up but then half the time people were using different fucking fuels and like they couldn't get the fire out and would just be like a human fireball on their house right yeah yeah yeah you got to be real careful when you set yourself on fire yeah people don't

know you've always said that i've always said that it affects me i think as like as i get older like i think i would have tried that shit in my 20s because again there's an ego thing where it's like oh man these people in it are so uncoordinated like yeah they can't do it yeah that's what i think i look at it and i go nah they're just they got they all got parkinson's or something they're all shaking and shit on that on that top one that they must have like something wrong with that i could do that and i think that's literally all it takes to drive humans into like you know getting paralyzed by doing a tiktok challenge right it just takes being like i could do that or just going oh that person's dumber than

me that's why i failed every fucking video I've seen. But I think there's like, I don't know. There's an interesting aspect to it that I'm trying to find the pieces to. Yeah. I mean, what's the psychological thing that drives that? It was a big, it was a big, I don't know the mechanism. I know that it was a big trend during the Black Plague for people. Like there was a meme where

people go around and whip themselves at that time it was in order to like atone for the sins of like humanity those cultures that was causing the plague they believed were causing the plague so they were taking the pain onto themselves unfortunately it was actually just a traveling circus that were basically spreading the plague from one community to another of course it's fucking theater kids who did it right right but i wonder i do wonder if this is something similar like there's we when we are going through vague diffuse suffering we enjoy there's something in us that needs to see other people go through acute, dramatic, profound suffering. Right. We're just so used to, you know, something that has a large percentage chance of infecting you and hurting you that we're like, what about something with an even larger percentage chance?

If I can beat the crate challenge, then I can beat anything. think there's you know something in there the this is i think of all the challenge videos i've seen like the difference between how boring a successful completion of the task is versus the just beautiful ragdoll physics that you see when it doesn't succeed. And just like the, you know, wobbling and then like it starts, the wobbles get bigger and bigger. And then like it's among the challenges and like viral memes I've seen. This is the one that is most clearly just watching people get injured profoundly. Because nobody wants to see you succeed in this. The one video I saw of somebody succeeding,

and they were actually rolling a blunt while they did it. They were so good at the milk crate challenge that they just calmly walked over it while rolling a blunt the whole time. But that video, somebody goes, I just want him to fall in the background. the person like calls them out they're like what we're not haters like that here but it's like well if if you're watching this at all you're probably at least like or maybe it's like a crab in a bucket phenomenon where it's like don't let that crab get too high on the fucking crate. Bring them crashing down.

Yes. We're all fucked. We're all going down together. Yeah. So maybe the crate challenge is bringing us together with our, you know, the daunting realization that we only have each other. Yeah. Well, if there was something that could bring us together in an even less healthy way, Gwyneth Paltrow has done it by creating a Goop cruise. So her company, Goop, has been like for most of the pandemic, it was pretty quiet on COVID treatments.

I wonder why. Even pseudoscientific miracle cures were all the rage. But then at a certain point, she was like, I caught COVID. And this doctor, Dr. Will Cole, found a bunch of ways to help her with her symptoms that for legal reasons are not explicitly labeled as treatments. But by an amazing coincidence, we're all for sale through Goop. And Dr. Cole, by the way, is a chiropractor. Oh, the best kind of doctor.

Yeah. I love that. When it comes to COVID, that's who you want to put in charge of your neck breaker. Yeah. Have you tried stretching your back? I just say for literally an adjustment. Yeah. No, I just want to.

They're filling up, filling up with fluid. Yeah. Yeah. But let's check your sacrum out. Yeah. Going to the fucking ICU and going to people on ventilators and just cracking their neck. All right, you should be good in a couple of days. All right, put this on their forehead.

A couple of drops of this. Dr. Cole recommended a fast that cuts out sugar and alcohol. So Gwyneth hocked a bunch of mocktails and a 112 glass the level of scumbaggery that is just so off the charts when it comes to like gwyneth paltrow and the and the whole like goop thing because it's like this is kind of similar to the russell brand thing where i was like i mean i knew this was where she and her company was going to stand. Like, I knew Russell Brand was going to be someone who was going to be vaccine skeptical, you know, and I knew the same thing of, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow. But it's just to see the kind of waiting game that she did where she was just like, I'm going to wait a while and not say anything because that would be gauche.

But eventually I'm going to have to let people know that the only thing that cures covid is when you put a jade egg in your pussy and you know just live a healthy lifestyle you guys it's so much about fear and yeah one thing they that uh goop did do in the early days that was definitely damaging is they platformed a self-described holistic psychic sorry holistic, holistic psychiatrist named Kelly Brogan, who was just at the absolute vanguard of COVID misinformation. She was claiming on social media that COVID might not actually exist. People's symptoms were caused by fear and blasted vaccine passports, which she claimed would lead to totalitarian government control. Not unlike what preceded the Holocaust. She did all that in March 2020.

So she was like ahead of the QAnon game. That's like the level of sociopathy to like be around in March 2020 to look ahead and know i know there will be a vaccine for this and i gotta get out ahead of this to say that that shit is poison without even knowing that it's not even out yet and she's like that'll be poison you know do do my magic nothing else right here are your talking points for when there is a effective vaccine. Wow. True scumbag. They also sell a gold necklace for the low price of $8,600. That is the wholeness medallion where she recommends wearing several at once while hiking. Wait, several $8,600 fucking necklaces while hiking yeah well so hiking is a key part

of uh covid recovery because it helps you sweat out the toxins and yeah you gotta get the medallions this is the problem you know you're getting sick because you're not rocking a honda civic on your neck and hitting runyon canyon right what are you talking about? And actual doctors eventually took issue with Paltrow marketing the crap to her fans. And she claimed that the National Medical Director of England's NHS was just criticizing her for the clicks. Damn. Spoken like a true right winger now. I know.

Wow. The hater's going to hate just for the attention. Yeah. The NHS? Yeah. You think that? Yep. Yep. Doctors fucking with me for clout.

And so this is where Goop stood entering this latest development, which is the announcement of Goop Cruises, celebrity cruises featuring Goop crap that will set sail in when COVID is defeated. No, will set sail in the fall. Goop is providing cruises with onboard wellness experts, curating programming and fitness kits. But Paltrow claims she's sworn to secrecy on the rest so what does that mean because that's it's really truly like the shittiest salesman just she basically says like what and there's going to be a bunch of quote goopified perks that will later quote pop up which is what a positive covid test

exactly what are we talking about so vague but basically the goop at sea package is a mere additional 750 fee uh to go on celebrity cruises which i'm not sure what celebrity cruises entail. Like if they're just named after a celebrity or something. No, it's just the name of the company. Oh, that's the name of the company. Oh, that makes more sense. Yeah. It's not like Clint Eastwood's on the cruise.

I was on, like many years ago, I went on a celebrity cruise to Alaska with my grandparents. And it was like, dude, it's like old folks fest. I was like, yeah. And a buffet, which is pretty dope. Yeah. That's the best part. And the worst part is. Dude, horny fucking boomers, though.

Like I saw like two people just pair off and disappear to like a room, like within minutes of meeting each other at the bar and i was like this place is fucking wild no they really are just like geriatric fuck boats like for the most part it's just like meant for like older people to like either you know spend their last you know money in retirement together to go someplace they haven't been before and have a buffet or for people just uh looking to hook up which i'm totally in favor for i think a goop cruise would be great if uh it wasn't about getting covid because this is what it seems like it's like the main theme is like we're gonna try really hard to give us all covid yeah and then uh kind of just uh let the chips fall well and then also then sell you some shit to treat your covid with yeah yeah

oh my god wait you're a positive test okay well tell me how many wellness necklaces are you wearing right now right none okay well here's the deal mom you need to drop at least 17 grand right now in these fucking chains like you'll never guess where they stand on uh actual vaccine mandates because of florida state law passengers It is at the passenger's discretion, whether they decide to tell the cruise line if they are vaccinated. So it's a, it's a collabo with, uh,

Gwyneth Paltrow and Ron DeSantis, which I know we've all been looking for that, that match up and cheaper labor, like not to mention the people who work on those ships, they're in such close quarters and you have a fucking covid outbreak on there it's not it ain't it's not going to be a pretty fucking sight i mean especially if you just look at like what happened for that one cruise ship like yeah the diamond princess yeah that was like absolute nonsense yeah it was just a complete outbreak and

then led to you know it was a mass super spreader event and they're just gonna do another one because they're you know they're just living this grift so hard it's just weird that like wineth paltrow you know she's always kind of gotten shit i think a lot of crunchy you know granola like wellness people have always gotten like a little bit of shit from people for their kind of weird beliefs but this is like shouldn't be allowed to step foot outside territory you know what i mean like yeah like yeah like if you see her in larchmont village you should yell at her right now she's she's insane she lives in stanford she lives in malibu yeah yeah larchmont what's that no no if she's going there they're buying you there to buy some drugs, you know.

Right. But, yeah, it really is, like, a thing that I'm surprised they're not really, I mean, I am surprised. Because when you look at it, they're dealing in the same sort of misinformation and dangerous shit as, like, any other conspiracy theory out here. It basically is QAnon with a six-figure income is what that shit is. It's like, well, no, QAnon's for six figure income is what this shit is. It's like, well, no QAnon is for like the broke boys. I'm like in this new age shit, which is essentially on the foundation of the same beliefs. And that's where I'm operating from.

Yeah. It's, it's interesting. I, I feel like we're seeing like Matt, to your point, you were talking about how you could have predicted what Russell Brand's position was going to be on COVID.

And like, we, we could have predicted that this was going to happen with goop i i feel like because people have these and even with trump we're seeing like celebrities almost be trapped by what their like online following and like support is, you know, they're, they're, they have no other option. It's like, that's, they could either, you know, just get booed off the stage or tell it, give the people what they want to hear. Yeah. But the weird thing about it, you know, with, with Gwyneth is she's not, you know, it's one thing to be radicalized by your YouTube algorithm or by Twitter or Facebook, you know, because you have these like, kind of like, you know, it's one thing to be radicalized by your YouTube algorithm or by Twitter or Facebook, you know, because you have these like kind of like, you know, you have traffic drawn to the most extreme views. Right. This is all on her own.

Like she's not she's not being radicalized by, you know, like trying to give her YouTube piggies what they want. You know, like I've seen that before and I almost, I don't excuse it, but I get it a little bit more. Like people are just feeding the people that are already, you know, in their audience, the shit that they want and the more extreme version. And I'm the only one telling you the truth. She absolutely doesn't have to be like this. You know, she can still sell $8,000 necklaces and just say that it like, you know, cures your fucking, like your yeast infections or whatever. Like she can,

she can still do that kind of grift. It doesn't have to be COVID based, but she's making it. She is actively like making it about COVID. She's it's total scumbaggery. It's worse. It's actually worse than Alex Jones. Yeah. Because Alex Jones is, is radicalized by his audience. And it's worse it's actually worse than alex jones yeah because alex jones is

radicalized by his audience and it's like this this circle that keeps going he can't get out of that he's trapped she doesn't have to be like this she's like a true cult leader who's like having visions on the top of the palisades and coming down and being like my sick ass immune system which i won't acknowledge uh is actually being aided by these pseudo-scientific supplements yeah join me on this but i do wonder how much there's a echo chamber that feeds back on her like once she creates something that like has these tendencies of like you know oh like i i don't know about this thing it's like outside of the medical mainstream but it's fun like just by inviting that community in, then like she starts like getting, I feel like there's a

gravitational pull at work between like a online community and like the big celebrity influencer that surrounds them. Sure. I'm sure she's surrounded by people. She's probably in real life is surrounded by people who all share the same views and look at her as like basically guru. And, you know, but I think to me, I just look at that and I go, if she's surrounded by people, unless she really is isolated like a cult leader, she's also surrounded by like some normal people. I'm sure there are some people who don't agree with, you know, that stuff. And she is completely ignoring that. You know, it's, I don't agree with, you know, that stuff. And she is completely ignoring that. You know, it's, it's, it's, uh, I don't know. To me, it's just much, much worse.

Cause I don't know. I guess it's more understandable online radicalization to me because I guess there's so much loneliness attached to it that I understand why people are drawn into it. You know, we all want to, we all have confirmation bias and we all want our, all want our you know narratives to be reaffirmed yeah but to create to have the ability to do whatever you want and create your own narrative and your own fan base and you know you can get them to believe whatever the fuck you want i don't know that's just worse to me oh yeah for sure i just feel like there's also a like neediness and a feedback loop that's created by these pseudo-scientists yeah i mean no actor is self-secure oh yeah that's true that's just starting off like it's just as an occupation you start off on the rockiest ground of constant

rejection right trying to make sense of like no that's fine and i'm still good and i'm gonna keep my head down and whatever and also yeah to me it seems like when joe rogan comes out and is like i don't know like i didn't get the vaccine i didn't get covid like i'm good like that seems like wait is he intentionally like doing this obviously he knows the truth but the fact is that like the community of joe rogan fans that he's probably interacting with on a regular basis are probably like feeding him that bullshit. Like that sort of thing, I feel like is inevitable is like the sort of radicalization of the people. And then they in turn, like kind of they keep spinning things off into like a more and more dangerous direction. So I just want everybody to leave Joe Rogan and Gwyneth Paltrow alone. They're good people is what I'm saying.

Matt, it's been such a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, you can find me on Instagram at Matt Leib jokes. And you can listen to my, uh,

Sopranos podcast, pod yourself a gun. Yeah. Yeah. In which we rewatch the Sopranos and, uh, talk about it with, uh,

a whole bunch of people that, you know, and love. So, uh, check that out. And, uh,

thanks for having me, you guys. I fucking love y'all. Uh, and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Uh, yeah. So, uh, the most recent tweet that I loved was, uh, a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, so the

most recent tweet that I loved was it was an image of trending in the U.S., Catcher in the Rye. People share their opinions about J.D. Salinger's 1951 novel, Catcher in the Rye. And then the tweet is from Desi Jed.

Desi Jedican is great. She wrote, no way this isn't annoying. Because, you know, for sure, if that's trending, if Catcher in the Rye is trending, you know all of the opinions are just the worst. And yeah.

Brutal. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, if you like 90 Day Fiance, check out the other show for 20 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra and I. Tweet I like. You know, I haven't been scoping the Twitters that much. But whenever I see New York Times pitch bot, I go, OK, what's the pitch bot saying?

Because that's always worth a good laugh. At Doug J. Balloon tweeted, we wanted to understand how mRNA vaccines work. So we talked to three Fox News viewers at a bonefish grill in the villages. There you go. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I know Garfunkel tweeted, Newton accidentally sits on an apple. And then quote, gravity pushes apples up into your butt. I don't know how that got me.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people should check out? I think the audience will enjoy this track from Genevieve Artadi,

and it's called, again, just like the Milk Trick Crate Challenge, this song is called Living Like I Know I'm Gonna Die. It's like a very, you know, dreamy pop synth track. And it's just got good texture to it. And her voice is really nice. You know, you might know her. She's collaborated with like Snarky Puppy and like Lewis Cole and some other really great musicians, Thundercat. And yeah, this track is just something that's nice, despite the ominous title.

So this is Genevieve Artadi with Living Like I Know I'm Gonna Die. There you go. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. But we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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