The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump = Junior Soprano, Crofton Chaos Ensues 04.24.24

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 335 episode 3 of their dailies i guys production of iheart radio okay this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into maryshare consciousness and it is wednesday april 24th 2024 42424 42424 guess what folks it's national bucket list day so why don't you cross something off that list the image that is here to support the day looks very confusing it has like a sphinx and then what looks like an airline, like someone hijacked a plane, whatever. Look, do something that you've always wanted to do. Stop food waste day,

national pigs in a blanket day, and shout out to all the administrative professionals because it's your day, national administrative professionals. National administrative officials day? Professionals. Professionals? Okay.

The people who do the real work for management, I think is really what we're saying there yeah shout out to them all i can say about my bucket list is swish i get buckets on on my bucket list i'm just nits getting bucket buckets off my yeah we both crossed them off on our bucket list we wanted both of of our respective NBA teams to lose in the most dramatically disgusting way possible. And we did it, folks. We did it. Two nights ago. Congratulations to us.

Anyway, Nuggets in four. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Soma, is what they will take when solar eclipse happens. Matt Leap, he is coming. That is courtesy of my Virgo moon in reference to our eclipse app where we were talking about. I don't think I can remember the name of the drug, but Soma is what the Greeks, how they got down and partied. Somas are pills. They're still pills? I mean, I remember Somas from high school.

Oh, shit. Yeah. People still use the muscle relaxer, if I recall correctly, from my high school pharmaceutical days. I wonder if that's just like a pharmaceutical company used that name, like trademarked that name. Must have. Or if it has something in common with the old ancient greek

psychedelic they still make them yeah they still make them they still make them under the generic name my garage so prodol i can get you some joined by a drug dealer who hangs out outside a middle school. How many somas you need, Jack? This dude is still selling somas? What is it, 98? I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yeah, the former Catholic school street pharmacist, Lord of Lancashire, the shogun with no gun, Miles Gray,

a.k.a. for a Subway tuna that'll taste just fine, stuff it fullashire, the Shogun with no gun, Miles Gray, aka, for a Subway tuna that'll taste just fine, stuff it full of turtles and save some time! Shout out La Caroni for that one. You know, I'm a love of Subway tuna. Might have turtles in it, might have yoga mat in it, doesn't matter. But we still love it, don't we folks? We do. Yeah, we do. It's all about the

texture, it doesn't matter if the texture comes from yoga mats. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. There's enough mayo that it's woke tuna. It comes from yoga mats. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. There's enough mayo in it. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite middle school drug dealers, a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician. You can listen to his podcast, Cold Brew Got Me Like Anywhere.

Fine podcasts are given away for free. His book, The Vice King Anthology, available anywhere. Fine books are sold. like anywhere fine podcasts are given away for free his book the vice king anthology available anywhere uh fine books are sold yeah the poetry window is open because it's chris motherfucking croft hey i got my aka since nobody gives me any last time miles you missed that just recently i had you know i make up my own akAs now. Oh, hell yeah. Okay. Go on, baby.

And she's buying the stairway to Chris Crofton. Want a whole lot of Chris Crofton. Want a whole lot of Chris Crofton. There we go. Hell yeah. Oh, my God. Go to your local guitar shop and play that. I got one more for you. You want a whole lot of Chris Crofton. There we go. There it is. Oh, my God. Go to your local guitar shop. I got one more for you.

I got one more for you. It's because Miles is back. I haven't done a show with Miles in a while. Give him a special one. I've been through the desert on a horse named Chris Crofton. There you go. I think those are the original lyrics before some studio notes. Yeah, so I got an AKA. No one gives me any, but there you go. I think those are the original lyrics before some studio notes. Yeah, so I got an AK-A's.

No one gives me any, but there you go. There they are. They're beautiful. Well, it's not like you're a poet and songwriter, singer-songwriter. Right, yeah. I almost forgot. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm not a big Neil Young guy, but that is the one Neil Young song that I really like.

Miles! Yeah, I figured this is the one neil young song that i really like if miles yeah i figured i figured this is the duo to be like hey guys i've never smoked neil young before what do you guys like oh yeah it's even worse than that it's not fucking neil young it's it's goddamn america the band america it's a sound alike it's very i'm very forgiving of that miles is like let's start the show over yeah no i mean that that just i mean that shows you how little i fuck with neil young because then i'm like yeah that one neil young song that ain't a new young song that one now that one is actually good

you don't like harvest that's the best i definitely thought that was neil young song for most of my childhood but i'm not a child anymore, am I, Miles? Okay, no, hold on. Let me play some rap music. I can turn the fucking tables on y'all. Oh, sure. No, no, stop with that. But yeah, no, that's so funny.

Wait, so this is a thing that people at the time, was it meant to be like, hey, let's kind of fucking ride the Neil Young wave to the charts? Yeah. It's like blatant, right? Yeah, I think so. i think they were basically like you know that neil young fuck is a canadian well we're america okay and we're gonna we're gonna sing neil young songs for americans oh yeah you want to know all you need to know did i think it

was neil young just because it sounds like neil young yeah sounds exactly like neil young okay all right i'm like, am I that fucking off? You're going to take all this out, aren't you, Miles? No, hell no. I don't give a fuck. I don't stand on my fucking pride over knowing Neil Young. Miles has never been wrong about anything in a final cut of the episode. They're going to

actually edit it, so I said that it was Neil Young. Oh my god, Jack, you didn't know it was America? He's going to insert it. You should totally do that on purpose. Oh my God, Jack, you didn't know it was America? He's going to insert it. You should totally do that on purpose. I love that Neil Young song. I've always thought that.

It is my favorite band. I'm a child. Did you also think the Steelers wheel song, the clown that left a joker to the right, was dylan oh i never had i think if you asked me and you played it i would have probably said that yeah so they were actually making fun of bob dylan when they recorded that oh i love that and it's like their only hit they're

like hey bob dylan this is you this is what you sound like idiot and then straight to the top this is your only good song man sorry uh anyways america was a band that uh fucking what's his name george martin produced after the beatles oh really yeah i don't know why though i've i've wondered about america like i don't think anyone well what do i know maybe maybe people did accuse them of being a neil young knockoff but I can see where you'd think that was a Neil Young song. And I don't know why George Martin really got involved with them. They're a good band, but I mean, I guess. I don't know. Is it because they were UK-based?

Because even though they're American, because they're all, I'm reading, they were all Air Force brats in England, and that's how they met. Oh, shit. I don't know, but I just know that all you need to know about the boomers and having a wide open economy compared to now is you could name your band America. Yeah. Yeah. That was available. Right.

Yeah. That's right. They're all the good names to take in. Yeah. So I named my band America. We had a smash single. I was able to use that money to buy the entire state of kentucky and uh real estate was cheap and now uh i'm basically royalty what's your band called chicago what about you boston

let's fucking talk about privilege now kids gotta name their bands like capital all capitals you know jabba jabba jabba jabba he's a singer songwriter yeah it sounds like neil young yeah yeah but he doesn't have any of the vowels in it except he's called jabba yeah how can you have the name jabba with no vowels that's kind of wild that's just jb and you're like, it's pronounced Jabba, bro. And what kind of music do you do? It sounds like John Denver. Yeah. Pretty much John Denver.

John Denver, another person who named themselves after him? Come on. Wow. That guy. The economy was wide open. Hey, you want to dig a gold mine or name your band America? Either one's open. There's a gold mine right there. I don't know who owns that land. Go ahead. Knock yourself out. We're just not sure. We didn't check the records, but go for it.

I don't see anyone there right now. Yeah, exactly. And if they're not, no takebacksies. No takebacksies. Chris, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. There's a new theory coming out of the right about what's going on with Donald Trump at his trial, why he keeps going to sleep and all that stuff. Allegedly falling asleep. Allegedly. Yeah, that's 100% fake news. So we're going to talk about that. It feels like they're trying a tactic that was used by the mafia for many years whenever they would stand to trial. So we'll talk about that.

And NASA's Voyager 1 probe has finally been unscrambled. It's started making sense again. It stopped making sense like the talking heads. It's making sense again it stopped making sense uh like the talking heads it's making sense again all right good so that's good uh we i just want to make as many late 70s early 80s music references as i possibly can please all right but before we get to any of that shit chris crofton we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history well i'm gonna do change it up i'm gonna tell you what thank you something I'm going to tell you something real. I'm going to tell you something like, well, not real, but I'm not going to tell you about like a Humanzee documentary.

Oh, come on. But you should still check that out. But I've been Googling pulmonary nodule ever since I broke my shoulder in January. I broke my shoulder in January on the ice. And then when they x-rayed it, they found, well, they thought it was a bruise on my lung from like when I hit the steps. I slipped on my front steps. And one stair broke my rib and the other stair broke my shoulder. And when they did the x-ray, you know, so so i was like the doctor gave me morphine and he said

you don't need surgery and then he asked me why i was in a good mood i think i've been through through this with you guys i don't know but he asked me why i was such a he said you i don't understand your affect he's like yeah he was like you seem too happy or something like that ai powered medical bot i do not understand your. Was it because you were on morphine? That's what I told him. I said, well, you gave me morphine.

And also just, this isn't like I broke my hip in 2018 and that was fucking. So this is not a broken hip. I'm already like in a decent, like I'm walking around, you know, my arms in a sling, but who cares compared to that anyway?

So then he's like, oh yeah. And by the way, we found this pulmonary nodule. And then all of a sudden everything went, you know, I was like, oh God, what the hell is that? You know, you hear pulmonary, you don't hear pulmonary ever.

You don't hear pulmonary. Yeah, no. So then like, he was like, oh, well, they're normally, you know, they might be, it might be nothing. You have a 13 millimeter pulmonary nodule. It's just like a little growth in your lung and you should have it checked. So then I was like spun out for like a couple of days. And then, but I couldn't get an appointment with a pulmonologist until, well, at first they offered May.

So I was like, well, and then they found a person who could see me in March. So that still gave me a couple months. So I just sort of like spin out. Yeah. But I did forget about it eventually because I Googled it and it was like most pulmonary nodules, 85% of them are nothing scar tissue from previous illnesses or whatever it is. But usually non-malignant, but they prefer to be the non-malignant ones like you're looking at, hopefully five millimeters, eight millimeters. 13 was a little big, but still it was like most of these are nothing so i kind of put it out of my mind just a couple months and i really did which is a testament to like fucking therapy and zoloft

because it was the old days like if it was when i was younger before i addressed my real anxiety that or i don't know anyway i would have worried non-stop for those whole two months so the fact that i was even able to go back to my regular life was was was kind of kind of nice. And then, and then when I went to get it, I got, went to the doctor, they did, they did, um, he said, yeah, you have 13 millimeter thing. And we got to look, we got to look at it, you know, cause it's kind of big, you know, it's not, you know, it's not huge, but he's like, we got to look at it. So you're going to do a PET scan. So a PET scan is like, you, you know,

it's a cancer. Generally it's a cancer test to see if like sort of nodules and things are active like you want it to be dead you want it to be scar tissue you want it to be not active right right so i so i go and um get the pet scan and they put dye in your arm and stuff and i don't mind that stuff because like i wasn't parented properly so like when i'm with the doctor i feel like i'm finally like getting some, I really, I actually really,

yes, I really do. I really do. You guys are laughing too hard at that. That's too hard to laugh at that. You're not supposed to laugh that hard at that. It's just too real, dude.

We were just talking before. I was like, dude, Chris, you're going to fucking say some bummer shit, but I'm sorry. It got too real again. I let into this.

My nervous response. Miles, Miles. I was telling Miles beforehand. Yeah, this has been quite a couple months for me. It really has. It's been the worst few months of my life. Oh, my God. But I am so happy now, though.

I mean, I got through it. So then they did the scan, and then they're like, you're all clear. No, no, no, no. No, no. That's why. I'm going through the scary version so i go to get the pet scan and i feel great because i like people like touching me and stuff you know like putting things in my arms i do too like i will get a haircut just to have somebody touch yeah it feels good it's something there's

something really wrong about that see miles looks like he was parented correctly that's because he's so confused right now fucking squinting and really yucking my yum on this one. I was never touched. I didn't know. Jack, I would be so much more affectionate with you in person. Oh, man. Give me a little between the shoulder blades rub. Have a little pat.

A little, hey. Because every time I hug Jack, he releases the hug first. That's how I know. I'm like, come on, baby. Stay with me. I thought you were going to say, I release a black dye that forms a cloud around me. And then I hit it. And then I'm blinded moments.

And then I retreat. What the fuck was that? Every time I hug Jackie, it releases a cloud of black dye. Miles, are you breaking into aquariums again? No, that's what it is. All right, so sorry, Chris. That's like hugging an Irish person. Hugging an Irish person.

Like, they've never been touched till they went to the barber. Yeah, we freeze. You go to the barber. Yeah. The first time you're ever touched, you go to the barber. I went to a barber once. You ever gone to a barber where they give you the whole treatment with the hot towel and everything?

Yeah. Oh, come on. And then like an Irish guy doesn't know what to do. You know, I'm like, am I supposed to be able to moan? Am I supposed to go? I think this barber is in love with me. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, daddy.

Daddy. Dude, here this fool goes again. He's probably gonna go to the barber and be like, yo, this barber is down to fucking go love with me. Yeah, I'm like, daddy, daddy. Dude, here this fool goes again. He's probably going to go to the barber and be like, yo, this barber's down to fucking go out with me. I'm pretty sure. Barber's down to fuck. Barber said I was different than the other customers that come in here every day. Barber's down to fuck, but I never come. I was talking to Miles before this or just about a time on the show.

Just don't even clarify, Chris. It doesn't matter. Just let those hang in the air. Let's clarify one thing i do come on pet sounds pet scans anyway so i got back to back to pet scans so i got i got the results sent to me in in a portal yeah right before the doctor looked at them so i look in the portal and i i've the labs, but I'm not a doctor. So I'm like, well, they must not. They wouldn't send them to me if they were bad. Like they wouldn't send me bad news for me to look at before the doctor, would they?

Well, yeah, they would. So it says active. It says activity. It says concerning. It says all this horrible stuff. So that's when I'm like, oh, my God. Then the doctor calls me the next day and he's like yeah there's two things lit up the the nodule lit up and the and the and the lymph node nearby lit up so i'm like okay i'm dead you know but he was like this is not necessarily cancer he's like cancer is one of the things it could be but there's a lot of other things it could be but

we're gonna do a bronchoscopy so two weeks, two days before I was on the show, I had the bronchoscopy. And the reason I was in a good enough mood to do the show. Before you were on the show last? Yeah. Wow. Two days before. The Blake episode. Yes, two days before.

Okay. But I had just gotten good news in the sense that they did the bronchoscopy, which is a big deal. Full anesthesia. Wow. Intubated. Oh, wow. Needle down the throat with a camera to take it they took a biopsy of the of the lymph node and the and the nodule and then but then when i was in

recovery the doctor said like right after i woke up the doctor comes in and gives you talks to you which is insane by itself because i'm like i don't know what he said i think he said he did too right right yeah so he's like he said your lungs look fine he's like they look good because i told him i used to smoke a lot right he's like they look yeah really fine he said and what i saw did not look like did not look like cancer to me and then everyone said oh if that's if they said that that means that it's it's probably not because they would not say that they're like doctors don't say so i felt much better and that's why i was able to do the show and then and then um and then on monday they called me uh last last monday so like whatever it was uh what day is today i don't even know it was the 15th or whatever what day is today it was jack's day last monday yeah so like that day i got a call and they said you don't have

cancer oh hey thank you fuck dude that's fucking heavy call and they said, you don't have cancer. Oh, hey. Fuck, dude. That's fucking heavy, man. And they said, I didn't need anything. They said, what you have is histoplasmosis, which then I Googled that. So first I've been Googling pulmonary nodule over and over and watching YouTube videos about pulmonary nodules, which turns out there's tons of them. Yeah, of course. And you're going to find them and watch all of them. And I'm sure that didn't help.

Oh, yeah. That's all I watched. I went from abandoned mines to pulmonary nodules in a flash and uh and then and then i went to uh yeah histoplasmosis which is something from uh like the environment like a an allergen that turns into a little infection when they said you don't need to do anything but then i got so i went from thinking i had cancer to nothing like you don't need to do anything you're then I got, so I went from thinking I had cancer to nothing. Like, you don't need to do anything. You're fine. And then I just like went kind of felt kind of insane. Yeah.

Oh, man. Anyway, so I'm all better. And just to say, like, if you do get, if you're over 50 and God forbid. And I wouldn't wish it on my worst. Yeah. I mean, you know, and i'm a hair over 50 i mean you know 55 but you know that's just that's a hair that's a little rounding down a couple hairs yeah it's not that far into them and then uh uh you should probably get a cat

an x-ray or cat scan you're supposed to get a cat scan every year no one knows that shit no one will do it but if you used to smoke, the thing is, this is the way they find lung cancer. So I would have been lucky. Right. Because lungs don't have nerve endings in them. I did not know that.

So when you get lung cancer, the reason they find it's usually stage four is because that's when you start coughing. You can't breathe, whatever that stuff. But most lung cancer they catch early is through these other events like breaking your shoulder so you know no one's just just in general like if you're over 50 and you used to smoke a lot you might want to get an occasional cat scan which

of course you know if you have an extra couple thousand bucks yeah yeah i just have i actually have a built-in one so i'll just start doing doing them more often yeah i mean i think we need to do home cats kids these things do not look like complicated my brother said you look at those machines he's like you know they're paid for have you seen i just saw a video recently of one that was outside of like it's shielding firing up and you're like oh really oh my god the amount it's like a transformer like transforming in a michael bay film. And once that shit really starts rotating, you're like, holy shit, dude. This thing has the power to move earth. Oh, so it's worth the money.

I mean, yeah. That's okay. I mean, you're making money on this thing. I looked at it when I was in there. And, you know, of course, when you're in there, they're like, we're just going to do one more cat scan. And you're like, oh, but, you know like are you sure like how much you know how much does it cost they should have a thing like on a gas you know on a gas thing where you can see the money the money going up right yeah every rotation you're not giving me another cat skin i don't care

what i got yeah there was a when i went to the kentucky der one time, there was a house, just like a private house, that had an ATM machine in its yard right by the thing. And that changed the way I thought. I was like, what if you could just open a private shop or a private ATM, whatever you wanted? What if you could just have a CAT scan at your house that people were like, oh yeah you go by this dude's house and get your get your lungs checked out yeah he's it's like he's not a tech so he can't make sense of it but he will send it to a doctor right or he'll send it to you yeah in a portal and you can look at it holy it's in his backyard this is so look at this thing fucking go this is a cat scan machine firing up like uncovered oh my god yeah holy shit and it's like barely getting fired up now what does it look like

jack it looks like the large hadron collider like the i what i imagine the large hadron collider looks like the inside is completely full of clock radios yeah and like like it looks like a window a window ac unit or something yeah yeah they put a bunch of decommissioned clock radios in a fucking donut yeah translucent corded telephones that they it doesn't look that complicated but we're surrounded by technological miracles and we're just like could you make it quieter? It's too loud. It's kind of annoying to me. Jack O'Brien's smog tests, CAT scans,

ATM, and legal services. And legal services. Yeah, I mean, there is that one service, the people who witness you sign a document, notary public. That one is just like the people who like witness you sign a document notary public like that one is just like a dude who walks around with some papers and like pulls up to your house

you know so like i feel like yeah that's a i feel like we should have more of that stuff yeah that's a great bullshit job fucking notaries yeah they make good money though shit yeah fuck those guys let's uh let's take a quick break notarizing shit i wonder how how often they're just asked repeatedly oh you think you're better than me because now i sign this in front of you it means something or they get drunk at parties and like people are like can you notarize this and they're like i'm not really supposed to the notary's like i mean to be fair without my stamp this isn't going to be an authenticated legal document i go oh so you're a tough guy huh we got him real drunk oh wow but

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Yes, I think it's underrated. There's a couple of things that are underrated. First of all, it's underrated a couple things that are underrated uh first of all it's underrated that more people aren't talking about the fact that i'm going on a short tour with neil hamburger in may which is uh why i wanted to well i asked uh justin or victor if i could come on the show so i could talk about it and this is the good news that you're looking for miles yes please out of me because i i uh I don't want to laugh at your misfortune. I know. I really,

I've, I really have, uh, I've talked about it a bunch on cold brew. Got me like, like I, I've been really, it's,

I, it's made it an, it's made it an interesting show, but it is like a little bit darker than usual. You know, it's not about Bigfoot as much. Um, it's not all Bigfoot.

It's not all Big foot and billy squire right like normal drop the big beat that's really square right that is billy squire yeah that's neil young that's a hip-hop sample yes neil young that's neil young joint if i've ever heard one boom boom boom boom oh shit neil so uh neil hamburger and me are gonna i can't remember that i can't find the damn site but um i can't find the stupid and that's the whole reason i'm like i scheduled the show so i could be like yeah i'll fuck it i'll i'm not gonna promote it um so wednesday may 15th in sioux falls at icon not at. Not at the Icon Event Hall. Yes. Certainly. Wow.

Oh, you already, do you know what that is? I'm just looking at the tour. You're making that up. Okay. Fuck. Eau Claire, Wisconsin, the plus. Oh. On the 16th.

On the 17th, Milwaukee at the Laughing Tap. And St. Paul on the 18th at the Turf Club. And I think one of those nights, like, I think the St. Paul one one maybe we're doing two shows that night cool so that's super exciting and i'm gonna book a show here in town you know to i haven't done stand-up in a while and i really like it you know yeah and i'm i every time i do shows i feel better so i mean just in light of these last few months because you know miles you know my mom got bitten by the cat right right? No. Okay. Did I talk about that on the last show, Jack? I don't think so. Your mom got bitten by the cat?

I think we know if mother got bitten by a cat. Okay. No. And she almost died. What? So for the month before this pulmonary nodule, for a whole month, my mother was in the hospital. A month. Three hospitals.

And I took her. We all took her from hospital to hospital because of this health care system is just deranged and and uh every time a doctor leaves the room another doctor comes in who doesn't know anything about anything he just says so what's going on in here that happens like over and over all day long i just knew people come in and go well looks like why is your mom here she looks fine and you And you're like, well, because of this. And they're like, oh shit, good thing she's here. And then they're like, see you later.

And someone else comes in. Oh shit, why are you here? Your mom looks fine. It is fucking crazy. And I think it's because, and this happens in the business world now. You guys might know, I don't know if iHeart has this thing where you don't put things in notes. Like you don't write things down for legal reasons. So doctors don't, since doctors are sort of like independent contractors, they don't put things in notes like you don't write things down for legal reasons so doctors don't

since doctors are sort of like independent contractors they don't want to leave a paper trail yeah so they won't communicate because they don't want to put anything in writing because if they have been writing and they misdiagnosed then it's so i think fear of lawsuits basically has made it this really surreal experience to be in the hospital because you're not getting all the information and you don't know why and you don't know why people aren't communicating anyway so my mom almost died from her own cat biting her and um and she's back home there is an infection that can't oh my god because of the cat bite we should have just made this whole show

yeah i should have from the top everything should have been underrated cat bites overrated cat bites internet search cat bites the cat that's crazy have have crazy bacteria yeah right in there just exotic they're animals you know i guess you know what they're they're they're you know they're they're they have just different kind of bacteria than we have we have bacteria our stomachs and stuff they have kind of wild bacteria you know or wild compared to ours you know whatever i don't know what i'm talking about um i don't know he just got hung up in some loop or he just kept saying wild bacteria and then the show ended they said they ended the show early and then i don't know what happened the only thing i learned was that jack didn't know that horse with no name wasn't a neil young song that's all we got out of that episode there you go oh my god i like that oh but that's gonna be crazy in the editing though miles yeah just

said no i don't give a shit i want to isolate it maybe it was just the only thing they'll know it be a fucking 10 minute episode or i'm like that shit not neil young wait so anyway the the wild ass bacteria by the way miles and i have such a brain fuse that i was about to mention that that song was confused with a neil young song frequently by people before he mentioned that he thought that that was a neil young song wow oh shit so we complete each other yeah you guys have completed each other on zoom yeah i was just thinking about how long, like we were talking about somehow loneliness.

I don't know where, like. We're talking about the cat bite, Chris. Get the cat bite done. I thought we were talking about loneliness. In a second. So the cat bite, yeah, anyway, just if you get bitten by your cat. Get a checkup.

Severely, especially on a joint. If they really bite you, not a scratch, like, you know know scratches are you you might get infected but this is if a cat really penetrates they're like they're they're their fangs are like they they really inject their bacteria deep in there and and then if you don't get it looked at you can it can be it became something very serious we waited three days before she went to the hospital. She felt okay.

And then she couldn't, then she, then her foot was swollen and couldn't, she couldn't walk. And so she had to go to the hospital and then it was just intravenous antibiotics and them just like sort of shooting in the dark at what intravenous antibiotic was going to work. And each intravenous, intravenous antibiotics give you like really bad stomach problems. And yeah, it's just, it's just a really bad thing. My mom's 82. So it's just like,

you don't want just get, you get bitten by your cat, you know, you know, just, just get it looked at. That's all. If it's a serious,

if it's a serious bite, but anyway, I'm going on tour with Neil Hamburger. So, so that's all behind me. My mom's back home. My mom's back home. And what's overrated is.

Right. Overrated. Let me see. I had a few things here. Just a few? The overrated is Coachella. Oh, come on, man. You obviously weren't in the house tent.

All right. Let me do a different one then. The house. No, I'm just joking. What? What kind of cop? The house music tent. The cop ass response is that. You weren't weekend the house i'm just joking the house music you weren't in the house tent you clearly weren't in the house tent man that shit was awesome you

weren't in gobi or mojave my guy i don't even know what it is but i just think it's something about uh something about just i think it's a psyop i think it's it's something to do with it's not it's not music there's nothing to do with music it's something to do with... It's not music. It absolutely is a psyop. It's something to do with the church of celebrity. It has something to do with worshiping avatars. It has nothing to do with fucking music. Calling that a music festival is like calling the Pentagon a house tent. Exactly.

Or horse with no name, a Neil Young song. Yeah. And the other thing is uh nut pods i i drank some kind of coffee called nut pods uh that i found at kroger yesterday i was out of cold brew and i got some nut pods because i thought it would give me 10 minutes of content for cold brew got me like just to even review it and it is just really nasty stuff i don't pod even it's a coffee it's called nut pods cold brew but it's it's it's uh it's it nut pods is their patented creamer but their patented creamer is just some kind of greasy coconut milk guar gum mess i mean i looked it up i mean it's like it says nut pods you know they're just like nut pods. It's a mysterious substance, but you can look in the ingredients.

It's just creamer. It's like a creamer that decided to brew its own coffee. Fucking nasty. Yes. Anyway, I mean, I don't want to put them out of business or anything, but watch out. Well, this show has that ability. Careful, Chris. Careful with the power you wield. Watch out. You know, watch out.

That's it. And that's, I don't know if that, yeah, Chris, careful with the power you wield. Watch out, you know, watch out. That's it. And that's, that's a, I don't know if that, yeah, that's, that covers it. All right.

I don't know anybody who went to Coachella this year. Bay did. Producer Bay went. Oh yeah, that's right. Bay did go to Coachella. I haven't talked to them since they went though. Yeah.

Yeah. We got to ask. We got to ask how it went, but for the most part, it was pretty quiet. I mean, well, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's dying a slow death At this point Like the interest Has began to wane Ever since Like you know

It came back From the pandemic We were like Ah And then the last couple years It's taken more and more time For it to like sell out And I think it's just

Because it's I don't know Have you guys been Lost its luster Yeah I used to go When I was in my 20s I used to go a lot Oh really

Yeah yeah yeah Was it fun back then Dude I was in my 20s, I used to go a lot. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it fun back then? Dude, I was just getting so fucked up and getting just wrecked in the sun that I didn't know what was going on. I don't know. I can remember three performances per festival. I remember being in front for Jay-Z, and I peed my pants because I didn't want to go. I was at the front of the stage, and I didn't want to go all the way to the port-a-potty. Oh, yeah. So I just pissed my pants because I didn't want to go. I like, I was at the front of the stage and I didn't want to go all the way to the port.

Oh yeah. So I just pissed my pants. Sure. I was like, this is one of my favorite rappers. Like, and I, and I,

before that I watched at the drive in play. Yeah. But anyway, look, right. It, it, but for me,

like once the, the lineup started being like me being less and less familiar and also just like the, the cost of it too. Like when I was in my twenties and like, I only had to like, I lived at home with my mom. I could put all of my like,

you know, you know, work money to be like, I'm going to fucking Coachella. And then I don't have insurance. You know, like that was my life. I did that stuff.

It was just different. You know, it was like a Lollapalooza, you know, you go to Lollapalooza in the nineties. And I don't remember anything. I remember just like barfing and seeing glimpses of the Smashing Pumpkins.

Right, right, right. Yeah. I was so hungover. I was too hungover I shouldn't have been allowed to buy tickets to anything because they always were anyway. So much of my life prior to age 35 was spent like too hungover to enjoy anything.

I was just like, oh over to enjoy anything i was just like oh i feel fucking terrible always yeah all the time me too yeah even i went all the way to my 41 i went all the way sometimes when i'm when i like eat too much like too late or something i'm like reminded of that feeling and i'm just like oh wow it's good this could be a whole different life my oldest enemy yeah jesus i went to the tibetan freedom concert in 1998 you know which was which was like should have been like the greatest day ever you know but i spent the whole day barfing i mean i saw little bits of the beastie boys and but i, most of the time I was just, like, kidding myself. Like, go to an all-day festival.

I mean, that's not going to be about music. That's just going to be about, you know, getting fucked up. Like, so fucked up. Yeah. I mean, in the sun. Yeah, the sun, you know. Taking somas. I know about the sun.

Taking somas, man. Somas, dude. Getting ripped off nut pods, bro. Oh, yeah. Oh. They hadn't invented nut pods. It was all Folgers. You couldn't even get coffee at the fucking, things have gotten better that way.

That's the only thing. Like at the refreshment, whatever you call it, snack bar or whatever, at the concert. That's better. Right, right. You'd never get a cup of coffee back then. People laugh in your face. You want a beer or a beer? Right.

You know? Or we want kombucha and whiskey mixed together. Yeah, you want orange drink? Yeah. You want orange drink, a hot dog, or a beer, you idiot? I was wondering if you had any coffee. Get out of here. Get him.

Get him. Get him coffee. It's a fucking cop. We sell cartons of cigarettes, brass knuckles. Yeah. And hula hoops. Sawdust. Big one. Yeah. For someula hoops. Sawdust.

Yeah. For some reason. But they're gel caps. They look like pills. To deal with the puke. I got coffee at a Bruce Springsteen concert. I just think that was funny. I got that when I went to a Bruce Springsteen,

like a few years ago. And I was like, this is an improvement. I think maybe the, maybe the, the universe does bend toward justice. Yeah, it does. Maybe we were born to run.

You're just like, yeah, I like this coffee. But seriously, you try and get coffee. Imagine the coffee you would get at a Bruce Springsteen concert in 1978. It's not coffee. We brewed it this morning. Yeah. Right. It was really for us.

Three months ago. Let me check the Bon-O-Matic. Yeah. There's piss in there. Oh, shit. The Bon-O-Matic. For some reason yep you ever take you ever drink coffee at a movie no i just went to a movie last night i but did you

drink coffee some some lady was there did and she said she put popcorn salted by mistake oh god hello that's some content. Hello. I asked for her number. Double quick. We talked a little bit about that. I said, popcorn salt? That's crazy. And then there's a lull, and then I, you know. Yeah.

How'd it taste? Oh, man. That must have been nuts. Just now? You did it just now? No way. Oh, my God. Like, just now?

Oh, wow. Someone behind you is like, Hey, she said she put fucking popcorn salt in the coffee. Okay. Well, I'm not supposed to react to that. Oh my God. No one gives a shit about this movie. But I like coffee.

I love movies. I don't like mixing them. I've tried it multiple times and I've never had a good experience with coffee at a movie. Well, it's nighttime. Yeah. Right. Or you're just used to drinking. For me, it's like you're always, had a good experience with coffee at a movie. Well, it's nighttime. Yeah. Right. Or you're just used to drinking.

For me, it's like you're always, I'm always used to drinking a cold soda, like in a movie. I think it's that. The warmness. It's like a neat popcorn and soda. Try an iced coffee next time, Jack. Maybe. It's also not nice to the people behind the counter sometimes because it's not really like a popular thing.

So every time I've ever seen anybody order coffee at the theater they say we got to brew a new pot and yeah you know i feel like it's like a dividing line between you know nice people and not nice people and you know people got last night there was a guy at the theater who ordered coffee and they said like they always say they're like well we're gonna have to brew a pot then and he was like that's fine that's fine yeah that's fine sounds better bother me in the least. Go ahead and brew a pot. Well, it just takes a long time. That's OK.

I have time. Yeah, it's just a lot of work. Cool. Sounds like sounds like it's going to be really tasty. It's like when you work. Wait. Yeah. You work at some restaurant that serves like normal food and then a milkshake for some reason.

Someone orders a milkshake. You want to fucking murder him, you know? Yeah. A milkshake? You fuck. At this fucking Chinese restaurant, you piece of shit. and then someone orders a milkshake and you want to fucking murder them? Yeah. A milkshake? You fuck. At this fucking Chinese restaurant, you piece of shit? My uncle put that on the menu.

You know where the ice cream is? It's a bitch. The fucking walk-in. It's on the top. We haven't made nice. You don't want the milkshake. You don't want it. Where does it say milkshake on there? God, fuck.

That's an old man. Sounds like you were a good waiter like I was, Chris. Oh, man. I was good, but I would go make the damn milkshake. But God damn, people are fucking monsters. They'll be like, yeah, I'll have one. I don't care. Yeah.

I'll have a milkshake. You try and communicate all the ways. I don't care what shelf the fucking ice cream's on. I want one. Yeah. And I want it now. God damn it. Go stand on a stool or something

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money but i don't like i feel like so many of these headlines are written in a way to be like they're coming home to roost soon it's like he's always gonna find fucking millions of dollars in the couch cushions shit has been coming home to roost for fucking eight years i know i know this is the one that's gonna get him chris oh fucking maggie haberman your father went out for cigarettes then maggie haberman tunes out, I think he's pretty upset. I don't know. I know him pretty well. Yes, he's upset.

He's really upset this time. I'm jacked for uptick. He seems so mad at me. That's a news story. He seems so mad at me. You should have seen the look. He was being such a bitch to me. His self-hater was just dripping off of his chin.

Someone should make a fucking TV show about the maggie haberman trump romance oh wow that'd be a great show it could be done pretty quick if i knew if i knew how to make a show i was about to say if i knew how to make a show but then you just figured it out for me yeah yeah just put it in a co-pilot and be like uh yeah let me give me a three-act structured romance rom-com script this This is what I'm going to put in. Haberman, Trump, love, murder. Okay. And I'm going to let AI do it. And hang gliding.

There you go. Hang gliding is what was going to be my next suggestion. Yeah, and like, whatever. It doesn't matter. Sky's the limit. Let AI figure it out. The sky is the limit with hang gliding.

And speaking of limited consequences, there's a lot of reports about how Trump's, like, violated his gag order. matter sky's the limit let ai figure it out the sky is the limit with hang gliding and speaking of limited consequences there's a lot of reports about how trump's like violated his gag order like at least 10 times in the last month and like prosecutors like oh are you gonna fucking do it as a contempt of court of a fucking real thing it doesn't seem like it is so that's a big shock turns out gag orders are suggestions yeah merely like yeah like traffic signals and gag suggestions like yeah uh but then also his polling number numbers continue to trend downward with independence but we're still seven months out so we'll see what's happening uh there's that but the real fun part is jesse waters uh recently he had to cope hard with the fact that trump just looks so

withered in court like and there's all this talk that he's going to be fucking in charge of that courtroom. And he's just been like tiny little sleepy, like Rip Van Winkle in the courtroom. So, you know, Jesse Waters with his gigantic brain was like, I actually have a counterpoint as to why Donald Trump like fucking shouldn't be having to stay in trial. And here it is is and but the guy needs exercise he's usually golfing and so you're gonna put a man who's almost 80 sitting in a room like this on his butt for all that time it's not healthy you know how big of a health nut I am he needs sunlight and he needs activity he needs to be walking around he needs action

it's really cruel and unusual punishment to make a man do that and anytime he moves they threaten to throw him in prison yeah cruel and unusual punishment is making being unhoused a crime that's yeah that's that's cruel if we're talking about the eighth amendment here but i get it but i guess trump is too old then is what you're saying yeah he's too old to be sitting there they're trying the like i had i had this thought when the reports first started coming in that he kept like falling asleep and farting up the courtroom that like he might be trying to project an air of incompetence like in like the legal sense of incompetence like incompetent to stand trial sort of thing.

Right. Because that's an old mafia tactic. Trump is trained in the mafia art of doing battle from his early days. Right. And that's what the mafia would always do whenever a capo or a don would stand trial. They would frequently be like, oh, oh yeah he's lost his marbles out here lingering i think it's a legal term yeah just but like that was uncle june did that in sopranos yeah junior corrado soprano wearing a bathrobe on that there's a famous one i think

it was vincent gigante or we used to wear the bathrobe this is mob facts shit remember we talked about mob facts like new york mob footage youtube i watch most of my fucking i'm watching footage of fucking mobsters faking being insane on the streets of new york in the 1970s grainy footage baby yeah i know malingering when i see it i've seen more copos is it i've seen more copos and worn out robes shuffling down the street. I see more capos than a guitar shop. I guess you call that a capo. That's for my music heads out there. But like, I guess it is funny because like truly to fit the standard of like incompetency to stand trial, you have to show mental, like you're mentally incompetent, too mentally incompetent to stand trial. But it's like, are they trying to thread the most elegant needle of like,

too incompetent to stand trial, but competent enough to be the most powerful person on Earth? Yeah. Okay. Weird line to try and draw. Yeah. This guy just needs to be out running around like a golden retriever. He needs sunlight and like a yard that he can run around in. He needs golf.

Or he'll die. Jesse Waters went to Trinity, too, by the way. Trinity College in Hartford, where I went. And so did Tucker Carlson. Classmates? They turn out a diverse group. What a fucking combo. Tucker Carlson, Jesse Waters, Crofton.

Tucker was my classmate, and I knew Tucker in college. Wow. That's true. I've told you that before. Yeah. But I never knew Jesse Waters, you know, much younger. But same, you know, I mean, I just think colleges, I don't know. Why didn't you tell us you were Tucker Carlson's classmate?

Like, it must have been in passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely told you. Yeah, I mean i i knew him to say hi um he was not like super well known on campus or anything he was just seemed like an average rich kid you know like most of the kids who went to trinity were were like people who were just stopping off at college because it was the next step to whatever job their dad had sort of set up for him i ended up there because my college counselor was just like,

you got in the, this is the best school you got into. So I was like, I was just 18 and drunk and I didn't know. So I was like, okay, I'll go here, you know? And then I went there and I was like,

what is this? You know, why are you rowing boats? It's like fucking work. Do they know about boat motors? Why is the main thing you have to do before you get rich is row boats around? Well, it's kind of weird.

Yeah. You ever been on board? Yeah. boats around. Well, that's kind of weird. Yeah. You ever do an onboard? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's really the weird culture of the rich people, you know, where you have to go to college and smoke pot and row boats. And then you get to get your dad's job and then you just go, you know. Yeah. Manual labor as leisure activity.

Yeah. It's just weird. Anyway, it's a weird culture. And Tucker was just another. He had a signet ring. I remember. He just looked like a rich ring yeah like all those kids had gold rings with their initials on them i just remember that was

something i didn't have you know so i noticed right you notice it was fun to be there because i got all this anger you know that i kept with me you know yeah uh for the rest of my life and that's where it fed into you know fugazi and all the things i love like ended up being like things i got sort of channeled to because I had to try and be a punk rocker at Trinity College, which is like completely insane. That's like not what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to go to art school where there's other punk rockers. You're not supposed to try to be a punk rocker at Trinity College. That's what I did. Yeah.

Yeah. Like it makes no sense. Like, you know, what are you doing here? You know, I'm like, i'm doing my i'm taking it down from the inside i'm taking it down from the inside because i got no place else to go you're you're paying well you're paying for it you know because my dad just gave me anyway it doesn't matter but yeah i knew tucker in college he was a jerk he i found out from other people who knew him better that he was racist then um his dad used to send him john birch society stuff in the mail which he would

read aloud which he would read aloud in his dorm room so i look at all these kids as abused children really i mean you look at kids but you know tucker carlson's a kid all these people are stuck in there whatever their parents told them you know that's one also like the story about like you hear about his mother like leaving him at a young age she was like a liberal yeah she went off, a liberal. Yeah, she went off to be, like, a hippie, so he hates hippies and stuff. What a fucking, I mean, what a moron. I mean, like, he's like, I hate hippies. Like, come on, really? Especially the one who fucked my mom.

Yeah, yeah. That's embarrassing, man. But, I mean, like, can't you get over that? Like, I'm going to aven spend my whole life trying to avenge my mother's honor against the hippies right i mean okay why don't you just fucking settle down what about that yeah we're talking about just fucking settling the fuck down yeah anyway so yeah that that uh jesse waters i just think just think those institutions like Harvard that turn out like Tom Cotton and stuff, why are these considered our best institutions? Trinity is considered this great school, and it's just this diploma mill for scumbags.

It just has cultural momentum for finishing schools for the elite. And then from there, we're like, that's what we're trying to aspire to. That to that's a good one the u.s news and world report says that's a good one yeah and if you're turning out fucking people like jesse waters and carlson you know you might want to look into like what your culture is but of course there's no i mean they don't care at this point it would actually be good like if somebody actually released a a second magazine that was like u.s news and world reports like college rankings but you actually looked at the shitheads that they had churned out right like actually held them for like the worst people who they actually yeah i mean harvard would

be a fucking disaster like the some of the people that harvard's put out there that's a good behind the bastards episode yeah right the Right. The worst of Harvard, the worst of. Biggest bastards. Biggest. Yeah. Or else you, you know,

we could do a magazine. We could do a magazine, Jack, if you want to put up the money, I'll do it. Well, U.S. I mean,

in my experience, I'll be in charge of the editorial stuff. You just give me the money. In my experience, magazines are a great investment that never go badly. Yeah, they're coming back just like vinyl. Oh, yeah. Well, vinyl is coming back.

No, vinyl really does. Magazines, not so much. All right. Should we talk about the Voyager? I want to talk about the Voyager. This is a nice small victory for us probe heads. So the Voyager, just for our younger listeners, launched in 1977. That's not a real year.

Became the first human-made object to venture into interstellar space decades later. I don't think I realized how rare it is for anything to come from or go into interstellar space. Like, you know, we have our solar system. That's where basically everything that we have observed up close has come from. Like it's that there's, there was that big deal about Oumuamua recently because it was one of the first interstellar, if not the first interstellar objects, like something that came from outside of our solar system that we actually observed. I love that thing.

Yeah. That thing's really cool. Cool as shit. It was just, it was going so fast. They were like, wait, that can't have come from inside our solar system.

It's like flying from, from outside. What was happening? Take me with you. Still haven't given a great explanation on that. But anyway, we sent a spaceship in 1977 that has done the opposite. It has left our solar system.

It has traveled into interstellar space. And it's not just a probe designed to relay scientific information. It also contains basically like a mixtape for aliens. Yeah. It's actually a gold-plated record, and the tracks include everything from an Australian Aborigine song to Chuck Berry to a work by somebody named Johnny Bagpipes, I believe. No, I'm sorry.

To bamboo flutes to Bachach beethoven chuck berry and it holds also a three paragraph letter written by jimmy carter who relayed our desire to join a community of galactic civilizations which seems like kind of i don't know quaint i like it like i like how the stuff some of it's dated you know like a rotary phone right and a community of galactic civilizations makes more sense when you realize that they launched it three

weeks after Star Wars came out that's funny isn't that funny? yeah he signs off President Jimmy Carter may the force be with you right oh yeah they'll get it yeah yeah President Jimmy Carter, may the force be with you. Right? Oh, yeah. They'll get it. Where's the beef t-shirt?

Yeah, yeah. But so Voyager 1 launched, Voyager 2 launched soon after. Pretty massive undertaking when you realize that, like, the computer that is on board, that is, like, controlling all of this this stuff sending the information back to us has like far less computing power than like a modern day key fob for like a car like that that is the level of computational firepower that is on this thing and it's still out beyond the edges of our solar system, still transmitting back to us. But basically last year, it stopped speaking coherently. And NASA was like, I don't know, like it seems like it just had like a stroke of some sort because it's like it's sending back utter gibberish, alternating ones and zeros instead of binary code. I remember that when that first came out, the conspiracies around it were like, it's happening, dude.

Someone someone got a hold of the Voyager. Someone got a hold of the Voyager and they're like texting us. They're trying to tell, but they don't know binary. So they look so dumb right now. They're like, this album sucks. That's what they're messaging back to us yeah but you say your theory you got a theory yeah i was actually gonna i didn't realize other people had thought that i was i was gonna say that like it's just got intercepted by aliens and they're

just like trying to text us they're yeah they're like yeah what does this what does that button do yeah but anyways they figured it out it was like some corruption of the computer's memory so they fixed it they actually like fixed a 40 something 47 year old computer that is around 15 billion miles away and like decorrupted the memory. And now it is, once again, sending messages back that take 22.5 hours to even reach us because they're so far away. That's got to be a great gig,

huh? To be the computer programmer for that? It's going to take a day to get there, so I'm going to just, I'm going to go sleep in my car in the parking lot

if that's cool. Right. Just wake me up when the signal comes back. You know, I'm actually going to go home if we know it's 22.5 hours for some things. It is going to stop. It's going to reach its limit to be able to communicate back to Earth in 2025.

So we're we're at the end of its lifespan because basically the power source that is steering the satellite, you know, the thing that is communicating back and forth to us, like the thing that's required to point their communication dishes towards Earth will lose its power. I think you're referring to the gas engine. Yes, exactly. I mean, this thing was launched in 1977.

Yeah, it's a lawnmower engine. It should have had leaded gas, probably would have gone longer. But there's this Guardian article about this that just points out that they will outlive the pyramids, they'll probably outlive us, they'll probably outlive the planet Earth, and we'll be the only record of our existence. I mean, assuming that we don't launch a bunch more of these.

Yeah, shouldn't we update that like i get like shout out carl sagan for putting that together what is the return on investment though miles that is yeah right i feel like the people of the outer and other intergalactic communities should at least know about um i think you should leave you know on some right the comedy that we've had on this planet too it just we also have fun too it's not just music you know we do we do dumb shit too it does feel like yeah the the amount that you're able to fit onto a gold-plated record is not right probably not enough for for people like we probably need to do another one of these we need to do updates and that should be at the same place where you can get a fucking cat scan yes we should send a small test and a goddamn uh whatever

space probe updates right send new space probes with your music in them and then you don't really send them though because you just can't you obviously can't but you take people's money and you take their music and then you you know yeah that's a good idea put it in the dumpster out back and say you launched it send your album to the aliens oh yeah i launched your demo yeah you can but you're also the recording facility too it's like we also can record the demo here too man oh yeah we do all that we do it all man i got back end i got it all made i don't even need an instrument man just hop in the booth just get it out man i'll send it right up to space man aliens are gonna love your demos. Yeah.

You just have a hard drive that is just traveling into deep intergalactic space and you can upload people's albums onto it. Be like, upload your album to eternity. That's how Jay-Z got signed. You didn't know that? What's the genre you do? It's called

Krungstep. Yeah, it's Krungbin but dubstep. You want a cat scan? Yeah, that's right. What's the genre you do? It's called Krungstep. Yeah, it's Krungbin, but dubstep. You want a cat scan? Yeah, we got it all. Chris Crofton, pleasure as always having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Thanks, so fun. Yeah, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Well, please come see me and Neil Hamburger. I'm so thrilled.

I did a little tour with him in the fall And it was the most fun I ever had And I'll be out there selling my book The Advice King Anthology And signing them and reading from it a little bit Playing some music too So that'll be in, as I said The 15th to the 19th

In St. Paul, Sioux Falls Milwaukee And Minneapolis, I think So so yeah come out come out and see me zeitgang uh please i love it when you guys come i love it i've you know zeitgang people come they say zeitgang and it's it's always it's always fun you know um so yeah come out and see me me and greg and uh and greg's always amazing and uh i, Neil. And then besides that, go on, listen to Cold Brew Got Me Like. It's gotten pretty deep recently

and interesting, I think. I talk a lot about, you know, it started out being about Bigfoot and now it's just inevitably turned to, there's just a lot going on that it's kind of impossible not to talk about. So I think Cold Brew Got Me Like has gotten pretty fucking good.

New episode out today. then um besides that you know follow me on instagram and and uh and uh what do you call it twitter uh at the crofton show great follow go listen to cold brew got me like chris is there a work of media that you've been enjoying yes and i went and saw it last night um it's it's uh the judy sill documentary judy sill musician from the early 70s who uh g j u d e e sill s i l l one of the original signings to asylum records by uh david geffen he started asylum records and signed like eagles and fucking you know, Linda Ronstadt and Jackson Brown and all these stuff, all those people that became huge. And then he signed, he signed Judy Sill was the first person he signed, but she didn't become big because her music was kind of

like too weird a little bit, but it's really caught on now with younger people. Like, you know, it's, it's, it's sort of gotten its due, but she died of a heroin overdose in like uh fuck north hollywood or glendale or something in the in 1979 and uh this this documentary called judy sill something or other shit i can't remember the name i can't remember the name of the damn documentary but i saw it last night and i saw it in the theater and i think it's streaming as well but it's called the alpha i'll figure it out the genius of judy sill totally great they had access to her diaries that it was at the belcourt theater here in nashville so they had the the director one of the directors was there afterward for q a and he talked about all the they found her diaries

very hard it's a crazy story she ended up she was abused by her stepfather she ran away from home she she became a burglar she she became a heroin addict uh uh she went to reform school and learned how to play church organ and then she recovered and had these two albums come out and they didn't sell really and then she kind of didn't know what to do because she had this arc and i think that's relatable for entertainment it was relatable for me where you think yeah she basically thought being famous would make her feel better because she had grown up so rough. And not only did she not get that, she had a taste of it. She opened for all these big artists and she did a BBC old gray whistle test.

If you want to go look at her, watch her play this song, The Kiss on old gray whistle test on BBC. Yeah. It's anyway, she's a fantastic artist. She was just sort of ahead of her time or out of her time. And just an interesting thing. Like, what do you do when your dream comes true and it doesn't save you, you know? And, uh, and it's a great, great, great documentary. And so that's my piece of media.

Amazing. That I liked. That sounds great. Chris. Yeah, it's totally worth seeing. Some of the best documentary, uh, recommendations. I highly recommend you guys go check that out sorry judy sill just that just her in your life musically is a nice addition and and i had not heard of her until a few years ago nice uh miles where can people find you is there work and media you've been enjoying yeah find me

at miles of gray on the twitter or instagram all that kind of shit uh find jack and gray on the Twitter or Instagram, all that kind of shit. Uh, fine. Jack and I on the basketball podcast, miles and jack. I'm at boosties as the NBA playoffs begin and our lives begin to end, I guess, so to speak. Uh, and also find me talking about 90 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra on four 20 day fiance.

Uh, tweet I like is from Alec. Kara Katsanis at equality. Alec tweeted. It's interesting how happily armed government, quote, law enforcement agents carry out the request of university administrators to enforce trespassing laws compared to how they might carry out a request by workers to enforce wage theft laws. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, reveals a lot. I think we've seen a lot with the Columbia University clear out that happened over the weekend.

But yeah. So fucking rough. Yeah. Yeah. But it's nice to see now like it's continued. Like there's so many other college campuses now that have like become active and, you know, professors joining in solidarity. And that fucking rules. Yes.

Yeah. We talk about that on the pod. Colbrew got me like quite a bit. I mean, I've never been seen such outrageous. cold brew got me like quite a bit i mean i i've never been seen such outrageous just like the tweets i'm seeing where people are smartly saying you know like they've blown up every single university in gaza yeah what we're talking about is protests on campuses right against that protest yeah yeah anyway yeah it's all the discourse. The boomer generation, they used to be all about

that free speech on campus. Oh yeah. We went to a protest, then we got stoned. Yeah, yeah. But then I got a mortgage. That's right. Tweet I've been enjoying is

so Gabriella Bluestone on Twitter, G underscore Bluestone, tweeted a picture roads run in this quiet kingdom of stone and sun her spirit's verse is a melody spun and so this person on twitter was like google was like where the fuck is that from that sucks and it's from nowhere that is an original ivanka trump banger no way yes and like in the comments someone was like oh my god ivanka that is so beautiful where is that from and she was like i wrote it myself and they were like wow oh my god that's incredible she straight up uh yeah she's just a poet goddamn goddamn the fucking dead poet society or whatever the name of Taylor Swift's torture department. It's a golden age for horrible poetry.

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where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? This is, I found this album, it's like a compilation of

Japanese reggae adjacent music from the late 70s and 80s. And if you're familiar with like Japanese city pop like from the 80s like this is sort of in that vein but like a light take on like reggae kind of like uh arrangements this track is called uh Tsukigage no Nagisa which means moonlit shore and uh the artist is Miki Hirayama H-I-R-A-Y-M-A. And it's just like a really, it just sounds like this like surreal elevator music version of like a reggae ballad. But in Japanese, it's kind of a trippy track.

So check that out. It's from the album called Tokyo Rhythm. R-I-P-P-I-M. That sounds fucking cool. That sounds fucking cool. That sounds better than fucking America. Yeah. Hey, man, you mean Neil Young, man? Hey, don't disrespect Neil Young, man.

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