The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Not NOT Taking Foreign Money, America’s Corpse Problem 03.22.24

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

In episode 1646, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, producer, and co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Trump’s Lawyer Doesn’t Rule Out Taking Foreign Payments For Legal Bills..., How To Fix America’s Corpse Problem and more! Trump’s Lawyer Doesn’t Rule Out Taking Foreign Payments For Legal Bills (Clip) “WTF”: Alina Habba’s answer raises alarms amid concerns Trump may need foreign money for legal bills How To Fix America’s Corpse Problem Could the Funeral of the Future Help Heal the Environment? The environmental toll of cremating the dead ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF CREMATION The cost of dying: How a spike in cremation rates is changing the funeral industry What Cremation's Surge In Popularity Says About Our Evolving Views On Death Do Cemeteries Never Run Out Of Space? Funeral Director Debunks The Myth Arsenic and Old Graves: Civil War-Era Cemeteries May Be Leaking Toxins News 8 investigation: Connecticut cemeteries are running out of space Toronto Is Running Out of Burial Space A Famed Cemetery Is Nearly Full. Can It Reuse Old Graves to Add More Space? Death Has A Climate Change Problem What is aquamation? The process behind Desmond Tutu’s ‘green cremation’ No, ‘water cremation’ does not recycle bodies into drinking water Water cremation not viable for Catholics, bishops say Could this year be the year that ‘water cremation’ becomes legal in Texas?  In Germany, some cemeteries are being turned into parks, playgrounds and gardens Public Life After Death: How Six Cemeteries Are Reclaiming Their Role as Public Spaces Did I Ruin My Marriage By Requesting A DNA Test? r?AmITheDevil LISTEN: Foam by Royel OtisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
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Starting point is 00:01:30 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 330, episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. Did you just cough? Did you just go, ah, that was just my Dean scream. That was your Dean scream? Ah! Oh, there it is. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. Come on in.
Starting point is 00:01:50 The water is warm. Yeah. Like feverishly warm. Yeah, yeah. The brain has a fever. It's a lot of fever dreams happening. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's hard to tell the difference between the fever dreams and the reality.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It is Friday, March 22nd 2024 yeah sorry i was just thinking of that line from the matrix and he's like do you ever know like you can't tell the difference between a dream and reality and he goes yeah it's called masculine that's a line from the matrix right before right before he follows the white rabbit to the techno club anyway it's march 22nd. Jack, get up out the holler because it's National West Virginia Day. It's also National Bavarian Crepes Day and
Starting point is 00:02:32 National Goof Off Day. Goof off, you freaking goof off. Not me, man. I'm never goofing off at work, especially not during the NCAA tournament. Oh, yeah. That's happening right now, dude. My bracket might be an absolute mess. I just like pure vibrations.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I had no idea who the favorite was, and my bracket shows it. Yeah. You can just look at, like, the number one. I'm more in on the women's tournament, to be honest. I know. I wish I had gotten a women's bracket in. That's the one I'm most into.
Starting point is 00:03:01 But I feel like the women's bracket's going to get real exciting. Like, men's bracket, going to get real exciting. Men's bracket, I just want to see the best team lose every time for no reason. I'm just like, yeah. Are you always picking the 16 over the 1? Every single time. The 12 over the 5? One of these years.
Starting point is 00:03:20 One of these years, it's going to be all the opposite of chalk. I always got to pick a couple 12s over the 5 to start off. Don't have any 16 ones quite yet but hey you know yeah 12 isn't hasn't has that still happened every single year anyway for non-basketball fans this is just gibberish but yeah shout out to people who are enjoying the tournament shout out to my dad who used to take me out of school for the tournament yeah just to chill watch some games watch some hoop what's it like like a school that your dad worked at dayton is in the tournament and the school that my dad worked out long beach state is also i got them i got them with the upset just for the vibes yeah yeah i always just pick
Starting point is 00:03:57 any anybody i have like any relation to i'm like yeah yeah they're taking it all the way this year dating going so far because i'm like, I don't know, dude. I just want Jack to kind of feel good. I've heard of them before. Yeah. Yeah. They. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Sorry. What happened? I missed a text from my wife earlier this morning. And then, and it was like a timely text. And so I turned my ringer back on. So that's what you are hearing. Oh, okay. And you're trying to say, and I'm going to keep it on.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I don't, I don't care. I'm just going to, you're going to hear how many texts're trying to say, and I'm going to keep it on. I don't care. I'm just going to, you're going to hear how many texts I get. It's not going to be many. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. all these almonds and all these crows out here. Somebody's getting fucked. Talking at, squawking at, spitting at crows. Coping this plate of nuts eaten by crows. Fuck this, I'm spitting mad, I'm hitting it, crows.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Got one dodging sticks, one con. Oh, no. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi main on the discord. I didn't hit the crows. Christy Yamaguchi main. I just got disappointed in them. I just looked at them and showed them my disappointment that they tore my backyard umbrella to shit just because I missed one day of their feeding.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah. Told you, man. I'm not hitting crows. I'm not like an ancient mariner in some poem. I'm not fucking tempting the fates out here. Yeah, don't do that. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:05:23 Mr. Miles Gray, a.k.a. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's my friend Joe. He got geezer brain. It's my friend Joe. He got geezer brain. Beep, beep. Who got Kamala for the veep?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Vroom. Sorry. Did you do that, Cleo Universe on the Discord? Took me a second to figure out what exactly the cadence was but when i figured it out oh it's my the phrasing yeah anyway thank you for that and thank you to missy elliott i couldn't figure that one out so great work everybody yeah yeah also shout out to hannah soltis on the discord who just puts the akas in and doesn't tell us what song it's for just like what do you mean it's in there which one sometimes i've noticed hanoramic view we'll just put it without the without the song all right well look look look you know i'm not i'm not she got a lot of i like it that's like
Starting point is 00:06:21 artistry that's like yeah i don't give a fuck. Some are so spot on, though. You're like, I already know what this is going to be. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I respect it. The phrasing. Everything's so perfect that they don't need to put it in. Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat. We're hitting for the cycle with faces on Mount Zeitmore.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Three in a row. A hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer. You know him from the Yo! Is This Racist podcast. It is Andrew T! Andrew! I don't have a musical, a.k.a. because, and this will, I'll reveal the onion of this later,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but my a.k.a. is going to be Gotham's Spookiest Baker. This is the only thing I've accomplished in the last two weeks it honestly could have been all of my items so all of your overrated underrated search history search history yeah piece of internet content i'll explain it okay i'm proud of myself you don't understand intrigue is there a culinary batman villain i feel like it should be right i tried everything if i have my way there's about to be one there's about to be there's about to be a new i guess joker sidekick i don't i don't really know entirely what's happening here but it's delicious beignets yeah yeah i guess like alfred is the only one who's like flexes any kind of culinary muscle
Starting point is 00:07:46 sometimes cc but anyway yeah i think i think it is because it's so like batman billionaire centric yeah they don't like no one he doesn't care who makes the food right he doesn't know he's so removed from that process yeah he's never even seen a kitchen yeah no no where does the food come from that's so interesting that's such an interesting question i never even thought about he probably like crazy he'd probably freak out seeing a kitchen for the first time yeah like right like in that scene in ace ventura 2 when he goes in that room with all the taxidermied animals he's like like just being like what the tools of tools of labor? No, no. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Super producers Victor and Justin just both jumped in at the same time, being like, Condiment King, you're missing Condiment King. Holy shit, my bad. That's exactly, like, what I would expect. I mean, they have, like, a calendar bad guy. Like, they will turn anything into a bad guy. Thank you for that. Shout out to Condiment King. Yeah yeah thanks so much for pulling that up that's kind of that's funny though they're just like
Starting point is 00:08:50 i don't know kids don't give a fuck about baking let's just go with the only food thing they know ketchup and mustard yeah it's so funny that the people like the comic book company that brought you condiment King, uh, when they switched to cinema decided the only creative, uh, viewpoint we can have is what if all this was deadly serious, right? Right. That's right. Play it real,
Starting point is 00:09:16 play it real. I would like to see them pull off like a serious condiment King sort of bit, because I mean, now that I remember, I remember from the animated series, he was goofy as hell. Didn't he have, like, just squirt guns with mustard and shit? Yeah. Doesn't he have, like, a...
Starting point is 00:09:31 It's like he looks kind of like a Mega Man villain. Yeah. If I'm recalling correctly, a ketchup squirter and a mustard squirter. Yeah. Mustard gas. Like, I mean, mustard doesn't always have the most pleasant connotations you know that's true world war one era so oh my god i didn't know his origin story he was later revealed to be stand-up comedian buddy sandler
Starting point is 00:09:57 the one thing that dc consistently got right is how many like of the worst people on earth are failed stand-up comedians that's right really yeah there's some wisdom here that's just the unifying theory the one thing that's consistent across is like yeah and the joker was a failed stand-up comic and condiment king well he was a failed stand-up comic listen even a failed online comic strip so we varied it up a little bit technically you could like technically he's not a stand-up but you could tell the riddler definitely spent a couple oh yeah yeah oh the riddler failed out of use uh ucb like yeah lowest level they were just like this guy's just going for punchlines every single time.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You can always retake the class. The only one who failed out of that. All right, Andrew T., it's truly wonderful to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things that we're talking about we're going to talk about trump's lawyer who so we speculated like that trump will secretly take money from foreign governments for to get out of this 454 million dollar hole and then that will like buy those governments various things later when he's president such as the country i. I don't know. But his lawyer was straight up asked the question on Fox News, and the answer was pretty staggering. Killed it with the answer.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So we'll talk about that. We might even talk about America's corpse problem, all of that, plenty more. But first, Andrew T., we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? You knew it. This is the one that was going to kick off the whole thing. My search history, the most recent, not most recent, but most revealing thing I searched recently was, is there such a thing as savory fondant? And that is because, and I'm just going to do this whole story because I, i again as i said earlier could not be more proud of myself the quickest version of this is my friend writer and showrunner
Starting point is 00:12:13 uh z chun used to be a writer on the television show gotham and i am just out of friendship embargo because he posted all this yesterday on uh on social media so i feel like i can tell the story yeah nice he and this has all been on the internet so he basically tweeted about a failed pitch he had at gotham wherein the most psychologically devastating thing that could happen is bruce wayne gets baked a cake but when he cuts into the cake it's a lasagna inside so mildly i'll say this motherfucker that would fuck you way up like that i don't care who you are that would be a real problem this motherfucker has been talking about this for seven years i think we worked out
Starting point is 00:13:05 literally he brings it up all the time and this is this is a side note i realized every tv writer has a pitch that they are so bitter that they got that got rejected that they will never let go yeah i remembered mine it's about it was at robot chicken it was a bit that almost made it through the process at onto tv but then got killed about a predator that had asthma anyway that's actually the whole joke so like invisible but you just hear him wheezing everywhere does the wheezing have like the little like digital whistles and stuff mixed in i was i was prepared to let the director work all that out this is not for me i my pitch was basically from the predator's perspective the events of every predator movie are just like
Starting point is 00:13:57 a sort of deliverance style worst hunting trip you've ever been on right anyway see it's cold um but so z has been pitching or has been talking about a lasagna with inside birthday cake but when you cut it it's lasagna and so uh last week for his birthday me and uh our friend port sack pichette showed made him the lasagna cake. And that's why I had to Google, is there such thing as savory fondant? And there is not. Fondant's primary ingredient is sugar. Oh, just to get it to even be like that sort of sticky, hard surface.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. Sugar. Yeah. I wonder if there's something. I mean, I guess the thing that would have the closest consistency is lasagna. Everyone is everyone. When I tell them this does exactly what you just did, which is it starts the it starts the brainstorm going. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. What's the what's the replacement ingredient? Because I really I really listen. We went down the like, OK, if you mix like ricotta with cream cheese at the right proportions. Right. Just like all kinds of options. There was a hearty debate about pomme de puree with like gelatin in it. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You guys are really going in there. Yeah. We were really trying to make this happen. Mostly because I was like, I'll do the prank, but I'm not going to waste food. Yeah. Because that's so fucked up so ultimately what we did um so the the barrier we hit upon though is like any version of something savory was going to give away the surprise via smell so we made a lasagna and a backup lasagna and then froze them took them out of the freezer and then for the sake of the prank
Starting point is 00:15:46 because this is the real world we wrapped them in foil covered the foil in regular fondant and then iced and decorated that wow and it was it worked we actually like fooled to the point where i'm a video he cuts into was like, oh, it's an ice cream cake. You could hear me just too fast going, yup, an ice cream cake. Yup, ice cream cake. That's right. That's what it is. Take a bite and taste it. Yeah, all for you, buddy.
Starting point is 00:16:16 But I also, I had to, I got a knife sharpener and got my knife sharp to the sharpest it could possibly be so it could possibly be. So it cuts through the foil easily. With minimum effort, yeah. Anyway, I know that's the long version of how this question usually goes,
Starting point is 00:16:34 but I cannot stress, this is the most flawlessly any project I've ever been involved with, full stop, has ever gone. Of all of them yeah this is like we gave out every possibility i like i had like a hero angle and like some candle positions to make sure some of the lasagna lumps didn't show through i'm so proud of this it's on it's on my twitter it's probably off my instagram stories by the time this comes out but it's on it's on uh twitter that's nice that's amazing writers are so weird i love it
Starting point is 00:17:08 but like just for reference like this bit is older than his child yeah and he's still and i'm not clear who he loves more right oh shit's so great. What is something you think is underrated? Movies you can understand. I watched a bunch of the Oscar movies or not understand, but like, I think I am, uh, I,
Starting point is 00:17:35 I have moved to the point where like any debate, like I hate, I just don't think film debate is good. Anytime. Anything is ambiguous. I mean the let's just say that the two sides of this coin to me are very clear dune 2 and zone of interest really like every type of discussion about this I'm just like oh my gosh just fucking make it you filmmakers put it on the screen I'm sorry I know you think I know you think that like
Starting point is 00:18:08 your audience is better than this or it should be better than this but the reality is they're not vaguely show don't tell yeah I'm sorry we've moved into a new era where people are too stupid to like be trusted with film
Starting point is 00:18:24 debate that's my yeah that's my take so just like have a scroll at the end yeah it's like here's a paragraph what we'd like you to take away from this i think i think every movie now should be required to do like a 80s movie montage type thing where you just see like a two second like still or not still like a like a 80s movie montage type thing where you just see like a two second, like still or not still like a little like frame of each, like a closeup of each character. And just underneath it should say, director thinks this is a good guy.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Director thinks this is a bad guy. This was the good guy. He wanted you to root for this person. Yeah. I think, I just think that is what evidently the internet has revealed to me that that is what we as a society require right and i think we should we should enact that i mean like much lower stakes but i still remember like the end of inception and people just arguing endlessly like no it definitely is a dream like he meant it for it to be a dream
Starting point is 00:19:25 and it's like wait what did you think he was doing it with that last shot why did you think he didn't show whether it fell or not no no but like you could kind of tell that it wobbled so it's definitely he's not in a dream dude it's so weird you know what it is i think it's it's the advent of 4k like things that you can pause flawlessly that let people analyze pixels right this way yeah that's just like yeah but no like even the the the amount i've worked in just normal-ass television, I can just tell you, no one, even, like, you know, the freaks who write shows like Gotham, has thinking, like, that subtly.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Right, right. So the lasagna cake, by the way, I do like that you came up with the exact opposite of, is it cake? Yes! Yeah, right, right, right. The reverse of that. This is the reverse of, is it cake? I am fully prepared to pitch a show just about,
Starting point is 00:20:29 it's like The Bear, but it takes place in Gotham, and it's just all the unreasonable fucked up requests that these people who work for the Joker have to do. Yeah, just like below the line employees for the Joker's back of house
Starting point is 00:20:44 employees. But like back back of house employees for but like back of house at both wayne manor and then in the jokers like organization and like the the day is won by like them being able to like pull various things together or not i think they all hang out after work i think they all go to the same kitchen. And they bitch about their bosses like everybody does. The turnover, it's like between fucking IBM and Apple and Microsoft. Yeah, they're just all cycling back and forth. They're like, actually, this guy was a real riser over in the Joker's henchmen infrastructure. So we should actually bring him in.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, I think he'd actually be pretty good here. He actually QC'd 70 baby dolls that emitted nerve gas out of the butt for one of the Joker's attacks. That was him? Oh, shit. That was actually kind of artistically done. He caught one of the flawed ones that could have ended everyone's life
Starting point is 00:21:39 in the factory if it weren't for his sharp eye. It's just there's so much manufacturing. That's the real story of the real untold story of anything that happens in Gotham City. This shit takes a lot of work. Just the engineering
Starting point is 00:21:56 that goes into the manufacturing that goes into any dumb shit the Joker does. Come on. Those are the real heroes. This guy's too hopped up on drugs to figure this shit out himself. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So is the Dune II debate that people are like, no, Paul was a good guy and that's fucked up, that he's pro-American imperialism? Is that kind of the debate? I just saw Dune II. I had been avoiding it, but I did know there was a controversy i think it's it's like i i would say american but the world's like protagonist problem
Starting point is 00:22:32 like yeah like i oh i saw youtube that made my fucking head spin where i guess like listen i know i'm old and like english is an evolving language like I understand that POV now means the opposite of POV as does literally like POV means nothing however I did see and part of it was because this guy was otherwise
Starting point is 00:22:57 I don't even remember the YouTube but otherwise so like pretentious and like prescriptive about like film but insisted on calling villains the antagonist sort of like without understanding that something can be an antagonist to a protagonist but not a villain right and specifically in like i think it was an analysis of dune one or two but it was this thing where i was like oh they think they basically it's just a sort of codified like protagonist is the quote-unquote good guy right and like they don't understand
Starting point is 00:23:33 and like that's not correct or should be correct yeah that was like no that's good guy that's me yeah that's which is why yeah why i'm pro this is i'll even give directors a third option they could just say mid underneath the character and it doesn't mean anything but that's how you decipher it dude yeah not supposed to know yeah question mark but no but it's yeah fuck fuck movies that you can't understand I'm all I'm pure Madame Web yeah give me
Starting point is 00:24:12 dump that exposition about your mother being in the Brazilian wilderness right before she died did I talk about this on this show? I guess I must not have do you guys know that in the actual theatrical cut of madame webb i assume that one's not in there it's even better it's cut in a way that is comedically amazing like it cuts away from the end so it is like it is just like sort of like
Starting point is 00:24:39 camp this sort of like a rocky horror picture version of edging where they like and it just doesn't they don't complete the line they like cut away and i'm like the whole theater i was and just freaked out it was amazing what we came for yeah literally yeah madame webb is uh currently my most enjoyable cinematic experience of 2024 i believe although love flight love lieseding was pretty good. Was Love Lies Bleeding good? I just watched Saint Maud, that filmmaker's first movie, and that was really good.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I haven't seen Saint Maud yet. Love Lies Bleeding is good in a way that, yeah, I loved how just disgusting it was. I'm like, yeah, it's fucking, everything looks like, there's a new filmmaker in my pantheon of and i'm taking this from someone on twitter but i can't remember who but uh who said dave eggers and uh yorgos lanthimos are the top top two of the it you know it smell crazy in their cinematic universe and i think the director oh sorry let me rose glass rose glass yeah from a new a new entry into
Starting point is 00:25:50 mount rushmore it's it just that movie looks like it fucking stinks yeah not in a bad way yeah yeah i that that's also one of the only movies that i've ever when i saw the preview turned to the person i was with and was like that's a great fucking title like you know i was just like goddamn man they like kind of nailed the poetry of that one they really fuck yeah all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about something you think is overrated we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I have followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
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Starting point is 00:28:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:29:16 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And we do like to also ask our guest, Andrew, as you very well know, what is something you think is overrated? also ask our guest andrew as you very well know what is something you think is overrated i'm realizing as i say this when i'd written it down i a thousand percent sure i have done this already but it remains true fucking taking care of yourself i feel like i i've been like like doing
Starting point is 00:29:58 like just old man mobility stretches in the morning, drinking, drinking water a lot more. And the returns are marginal. I'm not saying it's bad, but the returns are, and listen, there's true, man, with your minimal effort.
Starting point is 00:30:16 You mean it takes, it's a lot more like that. I want to do is what I will say. I'm just like, oh my God, I'm going to follow a fucking Instagram reel of how to stretch when you're old. And I like do it. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying it's overrated. That's right. There are some returns, but not enough. Are you still boxing? No, no. Were the returns better boxing? Did you feel better from when you were training boxing?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Ooh, wonderful question. I mean, technically speaking, no. And I will say it's clear that these are part and parcel of things that happen whilst boxing are affecting my need for mobility stretching. Sure, sure, sure. But no, I mean, I felt destroyed after boxing, but not boxing and stretching and drinking water. I only feel a little bit better. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. As I've gotten older, like a lot of the things that are supposed to invigorate me, like doing the cold plunge or drinking enough water or like working out in the morning now instead just make me tired.
Starting point is 00:31:47 write about many things but his thing about like how exercise like wastes the energy and you only have a certain number of heartbeats in your life right yeah i see where i see how he got there because exercise is exhausting my body is old as fuck yeah yeah long term though i'm sure you'll you'll you'll appreciate it long term, though, because even the mobility stuff, you're not going to turn stiff. Andrew, you're shaking your head no vigorously. Here's why you don't think there's any long term benefit. Every older person in my in my life has told me, man, at the very least, fucking stretch because it will be. That's I agree with you. But I here's what I what I mean, though, is when you don't do it, you like have some, like, you know, you have some level of regret because you see, you kind of like imagine and remember when you were more limber and you feel yourself being old and stiff now.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But if you do stretch, you still wind up pretty stiff. And all you do, you're like, you're like a little more limber of course again i'm not saying it's useless i'm just saying the the roi is not what i'd hoped you feel a little better but i don't think you feel enough better to justify it i i also think the answer is just like everybody's body is so different, you know? Yeah. The cold plunge thing really seems to work for some people. And for me, it's like somebody just like,
Starting point is 00:33:14 fucking shook the shit out of me. What kind of, are you going to a place to plunge? Do you buy a plunge setup? No, no, no. We just have a pool that is cold okay got it oh got it got it yeah but you're not doing the shit where you're putting like ice in like a little bucket i'm not like cryo fuck like that yeah yeah not cryo fucking myself yeah but it's still just like i feel tired and i'm like yeah because it just like flooded me with all this fucking i don't know
Starting point is 00:33:44 whatever the blood chemicals are that when your body's like, fuck, fuck, fuck. What the fuck? What the fuck is that? You know, like, stop it. Stop. And then my body's like, yeah, well, that sucked. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Good luck. Having nearly died. I need to recover for 48 hours. Yeah, exactly. To recover for 48 hours. Yeah, exactly. I think it's also revealing that maybe, Andrew, you're one of the rare people who doesn't have to do much to still feel okay all the time. Because I am also kind of in that world, too, where I'm like, nah, bro, I ain't doing shit. I'm like, evolutionarily speaking, I was like, is laziness an actual positive trait? Evolutionarily speaking, I'm like, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I'm a little both. Yeah. Because I have friends who need it. And they're like, no, bro, I'm fucked up. Like, I have to do something. And I look at them. I'm like, you have to do something. I do feel like I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I don't want the listeners and you, Miles, to misunderstand me. I do feel like shit. I'm just saying. All I'm saying is the amount that i feel like shit yeah is it changing enough that you're like my stretching time yeah right well i'm here to say i'm one of the physically exalted few yeah yeah yeah yeah you can just dump garbage in your body not do anything taco bell lay down yeah i mean i don't know what my blood work says, but I don't do it because it'll say something's wrong. Blood work lies.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yeah, that's right. Blood work lies bleeding. The follow up. Full circle. All right. Speaking of Trump. Yeah. Let's talk about this is just a quick interview, but I think it's worth noting because we've mentioned before the possibility that like Trump could take foreign money to help pay his mounting legal debts, which he and his lawyers keep being like, that's impossible.
Starting point is 00:35:31 We will not be able to pay this. And it's like, but you're supposed to be billionaire, man. You're supposed to have all these buildings that you can just sell. You testified earlier that you had $400 million cash. Yeah. Just like around. In a bathtub, I think you said. My wallet's in the other room, though.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit. I was going to pay it. I was going to pay it. I was going to pay it today. I was. Presumably because they thought she'd have a better answer than this,
Starting point is 00:36:01 Fox News actually questioned his lawyer about this like straight up just were like so are you planning on paying the 454 million dollars using money from countries like russia or saudi arabia like you know like the woke lib media is saying and the response was surprising yeah and i guess shouldn't be because alina haba yeah her entire course of representing donald trump has just been like a fucking hall of fame of like wacky legal takes and sometimes you're like is this does this person actually know the law or are they just there to be like a hot take merchant but anyway here's the here's the here's the question and answer segment there um is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money
Starting point is 00:36:46 through another country, Saudi Arabia or Russia, as Joy Behar seems to think? Well, there's rules and regulations that are public. I can't speak about strategy that require certain things. And we have to follow those rules. Like I said, this is manifest injustice. It is impossible. It's an impossibility. I believe they knew that. I think that's why mid-trial, frankly, they changed their ask from $250 million to the ridiculous amount of money that they've asked for. I think everything is done in time. I mean, I think it's also important. That number they came up with, that's based on the amount of fraud the fucking Trump Organization committed.
Starting point is 00:37:22 They're like, you know what? Fuck them. Add another $200. This is a case about how you're like, you know what? Fuck them. Add another 200. This is a case about how you're always saying you have more money than you do and how you're always saying you have this amount of money. But just the answer somehow wasn't no is kind of the big takeaway here. I can't speak about strategy. Yo.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I'm sorry. If you think about it, you cannot get a security clearance if you've got a ton of debt. That's just a general thing when it comes to state department stuff. As Joy Behar seems to think. I can't actually knock that one out of the park, unfortunately. Like, AI could answer that. It's like, hey, ChatGPT, you're a guest on fox news yeah and you have just been told something that joy behar said what is your answer like the the response is the opposite of a joy behar
Starting point is 00:38:14 andrew i can't speak about strategy that requires certain things i think we're done here that requires certain things that's true very very succinct and specific can't speak about strategy that requires certain things and we're done here yeah oh man that's fucked like that i mean yeah well i genuinely think that those countries would sort of say this is too like we could buy Trump for much less. I think what's going on is an actual negotiation that like I think the problem is
Starting point is 00:38:52 like they're like we can get you for we can get you for 80 mil dog like this is an insane markup. Yeah. So I think they're trying to rally together like a coalition you know like trying to buy the nets or whatever get a couple consortium of owners. Yeah. So I think they're trying to rally together like a coalition. You know, like trying to buy the Nets or whatever. Get a couple
Starting point is 00:39:07 consortium of owners. Yeah. If like 20 countries each kick in 80. Now we're talking 40 million. Now we got something. The hard bit there is just being like once he gets it, he's not going to be like,
Starting point is 00:39:23 bro, I don't owe y'all shit. Yeah. I can see him easily being like, yeah, I just skated on that one. Sorry. Peace. It does feel like, and this probably can't be true just given the way the world is, but it does almost feel like his bullshit, like he's run out of runway on his, you know, just fucking train track that he was building like as he was driving the train of just like lies and bullshit and intimidation and like just this this feels like the place where it's like his just unshakable like inability not to want to have as much money as
Starting point is 00:40:01 possible and want to seem like he has as much money as possible is like kind of getting in the way of him being able to function in the way that he has up to up to this point yeah well and then there's also just too like the people that were giving him money i think they're just they're also i think literally running out of money too yeah like the small dollar donors like the people that are sub $200 donations, he had almost 63% less money from small dollar donors than he did in 2019. And it's just been trending downward. Let me throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:40:34 This is for all you MAGA heads out there. This is what Joe Biden's been trying to do with all this inflation. He's trying to keep you from being able to send money to your President Trump. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Willis Sheldon Adelson inflation you know he's trying to keep you from being able to send money to thank you president trump yeah i mean we'll see yeah will a sheldon adelson or someone come from the shadows and be like all right bro here's the money but it's it's very difficult but that's like addict behavior at
Starting point is 00:40:57 this point because it's like all you're doing is protecting the money you already threw at him you're enabling yeah you're not you not giving him, you're not getting anything from him. Yeah, not even enabling though, too. It's just like, it's ROI. Listen, I clearly, all I've been thinking is ROI up and down since I last been on the show. But what is the value of giving
Starting point is 00:41:18 him this money? You're not going to get a half billion dollars back in some other kind of shit. Or maybe you do and maybe you've done some calculus and you're like well it's worth it for a certain arm shipments depending on what government is looking at this but yeah when we first heard that like the chub guy was gonna bail him out i was like i mean it kind of makes sense because he thinks he might be president but how like what possible way is he getting that money back?
Starting point is 00:41:45 And then it was like, oh, no, that shit fell through. He's not going to be getting. But, like, in what form could you possibly get a $454 million return on your investment? I think, honestly, the only way is to be like, I don't know if I own all his properties. Right. Yeah, yeah. Own all his properties and the president while he's in the president like well yeah but it's like like what like what you're gonna like defeat america in a nuclear war like
Starting point is 00:42:12 what do you get out of this that allows you to continue to be a wealthy person in a functioning world like this is like starting to be existential in that like listen the reality is like even the fucking like worst people on earth don't really want a bit you know they're not going to be there even their wealth is not going to be as fun if like you know things really go to shit and like so what do you get for half a billion dollars from trump like right what can he offer you really yeah i mean i guess that's why you have to be so wealthy that a half billion is like, oh, bro. It's got to be Putin.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It really does have to be Putin or Saudi Arabia at this point. That's why this line of questioning makes sense and should not have been flippantly raised by Fox News. Putin is probably the richest person in the history of the world. He just hides his money in
Starting point is 00:43:04 cello players that he grew up with but he could probably swing it but like that feels like it's gotta be illegal and well yeah but but to what end even if he's yeah what like he he would have to do it out of like personal like friendship with donald trump i don't think that exists like there's no like or just like such a severe switch in foreign policy that like you can makes it easier to fully just antagonize like the rest of western europe and then be like yeah do your thing bro we're not gonna do shit like go get their ass i don't know but even then that seems so far off i just don't think yeah if you want that there's better ways to spend half a billion dollars yeah for sure for sure like yeah i think also when you look at like the rumors around
Starting point is 00:43:50 him are like people keep telling him he might be able to win on appeal to the supreme court and you're like he's still like yo you're really you've got your head in the fucking clouds right now i mean i know they're down to bail you out but like i don't yeah to like hang on that or being like well watch this if they do seize my assets my base they're gonna really come to life when they see them take all my things away from me yeah that's what they love that's maybe what but yeah it's really hard to see but you bring up you bring up the supreme court if i'm vladimir putin you can buy the supreme court for three million dollars why would you buy the executive temporarily for half a billion dollars yeah right sure like it's it's just like not worth it
Starting point is 00:44:33 yeah that's yeah and then maybe might be chief executive you know yeah yeah for a chance so yeah your expected value on that is like, I don't know, 48%. So you need to get a full billion dollars worth out of this. It's not going to happen. Yeah, as your financial advisor, Vladimir Putin, we're going to say just keep your powder dry for a little bit until he gets real desperate. Hate giving you good financial advice here,
Starting point is 00:45:02 sound financial advice, but I'm telling you there's better ways to spread that money out, man. You could buy the other two branches of government for $100,000 max. Oh, yeah. Easy, easy, yeah. I think $60,000, maybe. It's bad value.
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Starting point is 00:48:56 There's like wait lists and shit, like a trendy restaurant. Oh my God. Yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Yeah. I think it's also funny, like people i can in our minds we're like yeah cemetery like that's where the bodies go without thinking that that's a finite piece of land yeah it's just like a little park yeah yeah they usually don't have empty spots tons of empty spots. Yeah. Because the solutions are not great.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Like, it's like you can be buried in a communal grave or there might be someone buried upon top of you. Yeah. If you as a way to make space or red. This is the 15 minute city of death. Yeah. You want to know what to do with all those hotels that people aren't staying in anymore yeah oh boy that one down yeah but yeah i guess this is especially a problem in the u.s where people seem to believe that cemeteries never run out of space that seems to just be a
Starting point is 00:49:59 frame of mind in the u.s in general that is not true which is why some bodies have to get buried on top of existing graves like miles said some countries only rent out graves meaning that when the term expires the bodies dug up and added to a communal grave kind of like a timeshare for skeletons you gotta be like oh okay you know my burial plot. It ain't a rental. Oh, really? Yeah. No, I own that shit. I own that shit. Oh, eternity, eternity. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Exactly. Exactly. I see you in the same space forever. Across the universe. You know what I mean? The other problem is that cemeteries are actually terrible for the environment. We pump bodies full of toxic chemicals chemicals oh yeah for their big day in the like open casket funeral and then just like shove them into an ink a concrete encased
Starting point is 00:50:52 wooden box that gets buried in the earth i don't no idea what could be wrong with that but apparently the embalming chemicals have been known to leach into groundwater yeah and that's why i was like oh why can't they do it like because like in japan and like asia that's cremation like yeah because like in tokyo there's no room if you go to like a graveyard in tokyo or like a cemetery it's just a bunch of stone pillars like crammed together because everything everyone is cremated but even then i guess that also has issues too yeah yeah there's a cremage also problematic for the environment it produces millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year many facilities lack modern filtration systems so you're probably breathing in a bunch of corpse right now corpse dust yeah i'm fine with that. Which I'm good with. Like that's actually what I want to happen to my body is to get inhaled and
Starting point is 00:51:49 then coughed out by some future, you know, asthmatic. But I guess cremation has gone from 26 or sorry, 21% of like, you know, bodies in the U S in 1996 to now 56 which yeah i guess people are just becoming less on the balance that has to be the it has to be the better option right i'm skimming the
Starting point is 00:52:15 research here but yeah well i think there's there's a lot of different angles because i can see how there's you'll also see studies like from people that are for traditional burial to be like cremation is actually really bad for the environment well this other thing's really bad for the environment because there are a lot of stakeholders when you think about like especially traditional set like this cemetery industrial complex like forest lawns etc they definitely because like you know anybody who's driven on the 134 past griffith park like over the years you've seen like uh this one part that was like a hillside slowly be like nah man we gotta fucking put graves there too yeah that shit up like to the fence line
Starting point is 00:52:52 and i grew up like growing up in la like that always used to be like this one part you really couldn't see much of like the cemetery but now it's fully like to the like the property borders yeah you know it takes up space which is what you want your eternal rest in place to have a good view of the highway yeah yeah the lawless 134 that yeah home of the highest rates of speeding i i mean i i this has to be like rooted in religion somehow like the idea that a body specifically is so precious and important yes yes so it was i think the right like cremation i think is against the rules for like catholicism at least oh so yeah so they speculate that the reason that cremation's going up is because
Starting point is 00:53:39 people are getting less serious about like following every letter of the law right there's a cool pope now he'll let you uh bring your body to a crisp there is yeah wild rules i actually did not know i don't know jack shit about any type of christianity it turns out but yeah wow no i just i remember yeah in school like going to like lutheran and catholic school talking like i remember when my grandfather died during like like the same time the northridge earthquake i missed school and i came back and then i explained what a japanese like funeral was and again then they cremate you and they're like oh yeah we don't there's just a gasp an audible gasp goes up throughout the entire school oh yeah i'm like that shit you saw me do the lebrron with the talcum powder earlier. That was my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:54:37 So the good news is more and more Americans are considering green burials where you skip the embalming fluid, wear biodegradable outfits or wear nothing at all. Which I kind of like. Just being like, throw my dead body in the ground loose. Bury me loose. Whose line is that?'s from twitter now i think it's just we should credit them i think it was one of our former guests yeah oh really oh yeah i think so i'm gonna go to travis yeah it was you doing it that's i thought it was you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but Yeah. But bury me loose is great. He said, damn, a coffin costs $4,000. Y'all can bury me loose. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:55:13 That's from two years ago. Yeah. But anyways, so there's that. They could just throw your naked ass in the ground loose. They can. And also, there's a new thing, new cremation process called aquamation or alkaline hydrolysis which immerses bodies in a mixture of water and strong alkali and liquefies everything but the bones which so they basically like do to your body what heathcliff the cat does to a fish or like they put the fish in and then
Starting point is 00:55:47 just pulls the skeleton clean scale yeah yeah this is what i want but then they yeah then they dry your bones in an oven and reduce that to white dust which fine but it feels like you're wasting my skeleton yeah like i just got it i just gave you a clean skeleton and you're not gonna scare some kids with a nice stock reminds you uh i will say this alkalization is it i'm pretty sure that's the shit they do to that one guy at breaking bad right yeah yeah exactly but i think that one actually dissolves the bones whereas this one just is like a great process for getting some bones for getting some clean nice shiny bones there's something about this that really excites me
Starting point is 00:56:28 just about your own skeleton yeah yeah a jack skeleton that's right I think ever since I heard that I've just been like my bones just desire to be free
Starting point is 00:56:43 out of my body. I'm encumbered by my flesh. Yeah, but I don't know. I'm all for this, for the green movement. Of course, there is going to be some dumb bullshit. For instance, people are like, water cremation? That must mean that they recycle your bodies into drinking water and that we're all drinking corpse juice yeah it does not but you know the existing cemetery
Starting point is 00:57:12 human remains disposal industry is obviously not gonna also something like this to happen to those people i got real bad news about standing bodies of water yeah right it's all in there yeah i also like yeah the other pushback from the catholic church they called the process unnecessarily disrespectful of the human body and if pressure lawmakers should not approve it i'm like oh yes the catholic church the true arbiters of what is and isn't disrespectful of the human body yeah yeah thank you maybe concentrate on some of the stuff you're doing to some living bodies first no i just think it's a it's desecration you know that's that's what it is it's like we but again we don't have unlimited cemetery space So something's got to give. I mean, yeah, culturally, I see myself going the way of the dust packet. But yeah, then but then we can free up so much land. That's right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's it. So Germany is obviously a little bit ahead of us on the macabre and death related things and so they've like already been converting cemeteries to just like
Starting point is 00:58:28 parks which i don't know i grew up and i lived a lot of places and the ones that i like spent a lot of time like riding bikes around i remember like cemeteries being just some of the most beautiful places like in these towns are just these like huge lush parks that are just full of dead bodies yeah yeah yeah my sister lives near sort of a cemetery in uh atlanta and last time i was there we took a little walk and there was a moment where i was like which one of these motherfuckers owned slaves? Oh, all of them. Oh, they're all in that mausoleum over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's nice to walk through it as long as you don't think about anything. I guess that's the part. I've never been able to go into a cemetery and be like, oh, yes. You know what I mean? Oh, really? I don't know. Every time I'm in there, I'm like, damn shit. This is where everybody's dead.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Everybody's dead in here. Yeah. That's everywhere, bro. I know. That's just, I think, my own sort of, like, juvenile perception of, like, a cemetery. But, like, zooming out, it is true. Like, the grass is always green. They got great trees.
Starting point is 00:59:39 There's a lot of shade. And, yeah, I guess I just have to throw cemeteries up there with, like, golf courses. Yeah. Take the golf courses first. Yeah. But please. please yeah yeah let's get the golf courses golf courses first and then we'll get to you later cemeteries but yeah also like but what does that mean i'm saying i'm saying there's a little convergence right here a little bit about burying people in golf right bury them bury the golfers where they stand yeah yeah yeah but then what do you do like do you to you does it matter that there is like a place where the quote-unquote body is at rest that you can visit i think there's probably like i think it's fine to like bury people loose or like in the biodegradable clothing and then you can go visit and there's probably should be like some regulation around
Starting point is 01:00:25 that i don't i i think that's fine i i think it's important like sometimes to like have a ritual or a ceremony of some sort with around death for sure i would definitely want to make room for everybody to have their specific rituals because it's it's a tough thing to get your mind around for sure yeah but i like disentangling them from real estate is like so important the fact that it has to be done like a real estate deal the same as you're dealing with that shit i don't i don't want to like overly follow the money here but i think for the catholic church i kind of imagine cemeteries are a relatively large profit center for the catholic church oh yeah yeah it requires employing a priest usually or hiring a priest to but just like something like if it's on church grounds i
Starting point is 01:01:16 assume you got to pay some sort of maintenance like it's eternal rent right yeah because i just think yeah like because in japan like we have a thing called butsudan which is like an altar that you kind of keep in your house that is meant to sort of be like your little shrine for family members that have passed away and that's how you pay your respect i mean you can obviously there's a graveyard or something yeah you can visit that but it'll be like a picture of them and then you'll put some like their favorite stuff in there like my grandfather likes scotch so you put a bottle of scotch in there like cigarettes that he liked or whatever and then you light incense and that's kind of like how you kind of be like yeah there he is all right cool i don't have to go to a fucking cemetery to me it's so weird that like the people that believe most in
Starting point is 01:01:56 the idea of like a spirit or an angel or whatever think that spirits can't go anywhere yeah better i'm just like yeah just fucking have a representation or whatever like their spirits they can fly don't worry yeah they've left actually left our physical plane and it's uh that means it's everyone yeah the whole basis of most of this shit is like they're anywhere yeah yeah the bible is not like and when you pass away you in that fucking box six feet under don't even fucking try to get out bizarre that it's like hanging on to the one thing that the rest of their religion is like this is the least important part yeah but we do need the most passive income possible so we're gonna need you to just uh pay us rent while you're dead if that's cool thanks that's
Starting point is 01:02:47 cool with you well andrew t what a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist thanks for having me where can people find you follow you all that good stuff i mean i don't know just andrew t i guess yeah find find me on twitter to look at this fucking ridiculous thing and my podcast is yo is this racist we're doing stuff i don't know always yeah one of the greats thank you thank you and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying oh my god okay i'm looking for it now i'm scrolling back through my likes there was a reddit post about a guy whose marriage fell apart because he asked his wife of 10 years for a paternity test for their kid. Wow. And, oh, shit, I'm not going to be able to find it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But it is just, you know, like, red pill comeuppance in general. Just like, yeah. This, like, I was not aware I'm, you know, I'm aging out of being on the internet every single second but yeah i guess this is like like a new like manosphere red pill joe rogany adjacent or possibly within joe rogan i don't know like type of viewpoint is like always get a paternity test oh always dude because women women always cheat and always cheat. And the post is so funny. Okay, I did find it. I'll send a link to just like...
Starting point is 01:04:09 The footnotes? Yeah, just like a Twitter thing. I don't know. This might require more actual research. But it is just a dude who is like genuinely like does not understand why his marriage is falling apart because he called. He essentially accused his wife of however many years of cheating on him having a kid with no evidence it's it's like it's just the vibes i guess yeah it's exactly what what he deserves but yeah man it's fucking wow amazing i always listen to go to you know i don't listen to rogan for his political takes
Starting point is 01:04:43 okay guys but when it comes to my relationship that's where i gotta go to you know i don't listen to rogan for his political takes okay guys but when it comes to my relationship that's where i gotta go to find out that's that's the life i want my wife man who's his wife does he like it's so mysterious yeah that like i imagine like he just like when he's done recording he just punches a fucking punching bag smokes his cigar and then cries in the dark or some shit nah well. Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, he does go into a flotation tank. Right, right, yeah. It's kind of woke and trippy.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Cool. I can't wait to read that. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Oh, man. Find me on the Twitter, the Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on mad boosties.
Starting point is 01:05:25 You can find me on four 20 day fiance tweet. I like this. This just reminds me of what Andrew just brought up in his overrated underrated. It's from Brooks Otterlake at I underscore ZZZZ tweeted. The zone of interest was confusing to me. People walk out of frame and it's like, okay,
Starting point is 01:05:40 first of all, where did they go? Secondly, and I guess this is sort of a related question, where are they? Are they somewhere? And I guess this is a related question. Listen, all satire, like, this is where we're at.
Starting point is 01:05:59 We're back to, we should have just a little caption when the train or car comes towards the screen and say, don't worry, you won't be hit by a car. Right, right, right. Not real train. We are completely media illiterate, and that should be the baseline assumption for anyone making anything. Absolutely. All right. The tweet I've been enjoying, Dan White, at Dan White, who's just a very consistent Twitter presence, sharing a
Starting point is 01:06:27 conversation that he's having with a friend about watching March Madness. He texts his friend, March Madness, baby. Can't wait to watch later. Bringing chips. Also, can I use your bathroom as a green room for Mr. Basketball? And then a picture of a guy in a full body basketball suit. And his friend just writes, please don't wear the suit and he replies it's cool i really don't mind that's literally why i bought it uh i just need a quote green room to cool off and eat cliff bars between games it gets so fucking hot in the suit also need a place to empty my piss shit bag every 15 to 17 minutes. His friend goes, no. He says, I promise I won't spill.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Actually, I can't promise that, but I'll do my best. The backstory this year is that Mr. Basketball is a gambling addict who lost $80,000 on a DraftKings and now has to win his March Madness pool before his wife, Mrs. Fernandez Basketball, finds out. And he has ED. Oh, shit. I was literally laughing with tears. It's compelling. It's compelling. It is a compelling backstory. Shout out to
Starting point is 01:07:37 Dan White. You can find me on Twitter liking stuff like that at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's a song you think people might enjoy? There's a band called royal otis and i'm like just based on the vibe i'm like i'm fairly confident they're from australia because there's so many great bands coming out of australia right now and this track is called
Starting point is 01:08:16 foam and it's kind of like a it's like if kevin parker from tame impala was like kind of fucking with more like world rhythms. It's kind of got like that early Vampire Weekend kind of vibe to it, where it's like sort of got that sort of like West African-ish adjacent. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like straightforward rock, but it's still a dope track. It's called Foam, and it's by Royel Otis. It's spelled R-O-Y-E-L-O-T-I-S.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Oh, okay. Well, The Daily Zyka is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We are back on Monday with a whole new episode to tell you what is trending back over the weekend with a rundown, a digest of all the stuff we talked about this week. And we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.
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