The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump On Drugs? The Great Bachelor Backtrack 3.6.18

Episode Date: March 7, 2018

In episode 98 Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Brandie Posey to discuss Sam Nunberg's meltdown, Mitt Romney, Christoper Steele, Rex Tillerson, Trump and his history with drugs, The Bachelor finale recap with super producer Anna, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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of someone whose name I didn't write down, so I will thank them at the end of the show. And I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes! Hi, my name's Miles, but sometimes I'm also known as Graylord Focker. Thank you, Ben Swiller, for that Meet the Parents-inspired AKA. I was just watching it, so it felt appropriate. So shout out to you. And an appropriate Twitter name, Ben Swiller.

Oh, whoa. Yeah. I didn whoa. Get out of my head. He's a Ben Stiller who likes to imbibe. Yeah, kick a few back. And we will get to somebody else who likes to imbibe a little later on. But first off, we want to welcome our wonderful and hilarious guest, Brandi Posey. You're welcome. I want guest, Brandi Posey. You're welcome. I want to thank Brandi. Thank you for your welcoming.

Brandi's nuts. Oh, yeah. Bitches. There you go. Did you ever have a derby name? I did not. I remember being in college and going to a roller derby and being like, I could do this.

And then I went to one, and there was one woman that was the scariest woman I've ever seen. And I was like, she'd kill me. Right. Do you remember her name? Was it Chainsaw Guts Fuck? It was Chainsaw Guts Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

Yep. Just didn't even have a pun. No pun, just straight up Chainsaw Guts Fuck. You guys weren't here before. Yeah, really. Before we started, we were talking about derby names. The craziest one was Chainsaw Guts Fuck. Yeah, I was like, there's no pun there.

I had friends that were Eleanor Roosevelt, Sandra Day O'Clover. Chainsaw Guts Fuck was the scariest person I've ever seen in my entire life. She didn't even wear roller skates. No, no, no. She just had cleats on. She's just running around fucking smashing people at one point she was pregnant and roller derby yeah yeah she had a full belly and she was still on she's like i dare you to fucking endanger my pregnancy exactly and everyone was like please

don't please don't yeah because i bet she was coming with some extra energy too like off the high of like i will protect my child and also compete. Exactly. Wow. That child. For sure a Republican now. Yeah. Yeah. For moms, chainsaw guts, fuck, that's what happens to you. Brandy, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So lately I've been going down a real rabbit hole on a movie that I saw a trailer for.

I went to go see Nick Cage's movie Mom and Dad that came out recently. I'm sorry, what? It's a movie called Mom and Dad. It's him and Selma Blair and they are parents that get infected with a virus that makes them

want to murder their children. It's an amazing movie because it's Nick Cage and Selma Blair going full Cage, which is great. Anyway, I saw that at one of the

Lamley theaters out here, which is like an indie theater. Before the movie, there was a trailer for a movie called Surfer Copyright Teen Confronts Fear. The copyright symbol is in the name of the movie. I've heard about this. I saw it twice in theaters and I've gone down in a hole on the creator of it.

It's like the new The Room, right? It is. Is that what everyone is saying? Yeah, it's crazy. So basically it's a movie that is made by this guy named Douglas Burke who is a professor of physics at USC. I've read all of his Rate My Professor reviews. Nobody knows what the hell he's talking about at any point in his classes. But he's a cool guy and it's an easy A.

Wait, he's a physics professor? He's a physics professor. So people are getting an easy A in a physics class? Yeah, at USC. Well, it's USC, so we already know about that. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's right. UCLA, they're building.

Well, it's USC, so we already know about that. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's right. UCLA, they're building. But go watch the trailer for Surfer Teen Confronts Fear because it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. You know what? I think I know about it because you were posting about it on Instagram, right? I've been screaming about it a lot, yes. Weren't you like in front of a poster?

Yes. Yes. Okay. That's how I know about it. So it's full circle. It's amazing. So it's a story of basic – this guy basically – his son is a surfer who got pulled under by a really big wave and then got scared of the ocean. And then he – the guy decided to dedicate a decade to shooting his son as a surfer and turning that footage into a movie where he plays – basically his character in the movie is a dad that dies in the war.

We don't know what war. Just the war. But he comes back to help his son confront his fear of surfing. Wow. And it's all footage that he shot to turn into a movie. Yeah. And so it's his son at different points in his life. He has different weights.

He has different hair colors. It's amazing. Oh, wow. So boyhood ripped this yeah absolutely so it's it's truly insane it's it's an amazing film and i've been just like i'm looking at a still right now where the dad appears to be in a wheelchair with the son and uh he is doing a wildly offensive approximation of somebody who has a palsy of some sort. That's the dad? Yeah. It's so bad that it's amazing?

What drives the... It's that similar thing of the room where it's like, what compelled you to make this? What is the story that you needed to tell this? Also, apparently, I read about this. It's one of the things i googled uh it initially was a six and a half hour cut that he had to bring in an editor

to help him cut it down to the two hours that it finally ended up being wow there's also easily 45 minutes i could still be shaved off of it oh shit yo that is a wildly problematic betrayal of someone who is mentally disabled. Wow. Okay. It's crazy. So it's interesting. I don't want to give any spoilers for the movie.

Please don't spoil this scene. So you have seen the whole movie? I've seen this movie twice because it's insane. Where did you see it? At that theater? At the Lamley Music Hall. They put it in the theater only for one week because you only need to be in the theaters for a week to qualify for the Oscars. This guy fucking rules.

Oh, so that's – wow. Yeah. Well, how do I see it now? Can people see it now? It's playing in Newport Beach currently and it's definitely going to go to DVD. It for sure is. Oh, but I have to go – I have to take my ass to a theater to see it. Yeah.

Wow. All right. Well, when you went to see it, were there other people in the audience laughing? What was the vibe like? Well, we took a group of about 12 people and were screaming the entire time. And then there were two actors from the movie that were also there. And they're like, you didn't like it? They're like, what's going on?

And then the director was there for like the first 10 minutes. But apparently he went to every screening just to like see what was happening. But he also, he's fine with it. His whole thing is like, okay, well, at least like people are getting something out of it i want to bring joy to people and this isn't how i thought it was going to happen but it has happened well the energy cannot be destroyed so i created it wow good for him yeah you know just confront your fear watch that trailer um it really i've been thinking about it a lot yeah it's stuck with me more than a lot of the oscar movies movies What is something you think is underrated

Other than that movie Brendan Fraser I know that he's having a moment That GK article if you've not read it Give it a read it's amazing I've been a big fan of Brendan Fraser For a long time in college Fraser

I remember there was a Comedy Central promo he did That was like the bit he's like it's Brendan Fraser for a long time in college. Fraser. Fraser. Fraser. I remember there was a Comedy Central promo he did where that was like the bit. He's like, it's Brendan Fraser. I'm sorry. Anyway, go on. Don't toss my salad. Don't scramble my eggs. My name is Fraser. In college, Brendan Fraser.

I'm going to do it forever. No, that's fine. That's fine. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Fuck him. He's Fraser. On this podcast, he's Brendan Frazier.

I love him so much. Out of respect for the greatest sitcom of all time. In college, Brendan Frazier was basically me and my friends like safe word at parties where if it was like if somebody brought up Brendan Frazier, it was time to circle the troops and leave. Right. Like it was like, okay, somebody needs to leave the party. Great.

And there's always a way to conversationally bring him up always like it's never weird you see like an old boyfriend like oh isn't this a blast from the past starring brendan fraser i would like step in on guys that were like trying to hit on my friends and be like this conversation cannot continue until you can name 10 brendan fraser movies you have 60 seconds go and then they do yeah yeah all right well i guess i'll step away you you survived the gauntlet a lot of people until you can name 10 Brendan Fraser movies, you have 60 seconds, go. And then they do. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. I'm like, all right, well, I guess I'll step away. You survived the gauntlet.

A lot of people can't, though, because they think they're very confident, and then they tap out at around seven. And then they're like, uh, uh, uh. And I'm like, there's three mommy movies, bitch. I know. Come on. You got it off top.

You just got to go chronological, at least my remembrance. Yeah. I've seen O-Man. Yeah. But I love him very much. That article is great. He's a sweet man. I believe deeply in the Renaissance.

I think it's coming. Wow. Renaissance. You think he's going to have a McConaughey like just, you know, going to be in Oscar movies going forward? I want it. I want it for him really badly. I like the Renaissance. Yeah.

He deserves it. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Oh, World War II movies. Wow. I get it. America, we're heroes. We did it.

And the French suck? Yeah. Also, women were also heroes in World War II. Why aren't they in the movies then? Yeah, I know. That's the question. I'd like to know. I've made a rule for myself. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to watch any more World War II movies until aren't they in the movies then? Yeah, I know. That's the question. I'd like to know. I've made a rule for myself.

I'm like, all right, I'm not going to watch any more World War II movies until I see one about a woman that is not Wonder Woman. No, Dunkirk had that one woman who was like giving out pies or something.

So, I mean, I think they fully... It was tea. Yeah. And biscuits. She was a nurse. Right. So, I mean, they... Well, then in Private Ryan,

there was that little girl who was crying that Vin Diesel got shot over trying to help. Yeah, fair. You know what? I take it back. Yeah. I take it back. We should get Jamie and Caitlin on it and just do a Bechdel test.

With our problematic take. Well, what do you call that then? Well, that's a woman talking to another man. Hmm. Okay. Well, maybe it's a problem. I would like to see a woman play Winston Churchill. I feel like everybody is getting a shot at Winston Churchill right now.

I'd like to see a Madea style Winston Churchill is what I would actually say. Or a creep. Who would you cast? Tiffany Haddish. Yes. I think that's the Winston Churchill. She was great. Yeah.

I would actually cast Tiffany Haddish as a general patent. That would be a way. She'd be a good patent. Yeah. With that big American flag behind her. Yeah. I would actually cast Tiffany Haddish as a general patent. That would be a way. She'd be a good patent. Yeah, with that big American flag behind her. Yes. Did we talk on air about the sort of upswelling online of support for the idea of her and Maya Rudolph hosting next year? I don't think we did.

I think that was something we just talked about. Talked about in the office. In real life. Right. Yeah. IRL. You guys don't just sit silently until the microphones turn on the entire time. We should.

I do. Because then, yeah. That's why I'm always wearing the same clothes every day that you see because I've never left this seat. But yeah, I'm for that. Yeah, yeah. They were amazing. I'm ready for them. I would love that.

It'd be fun. Have you seen the John Mulaney, Nick Kroll monologue at the Independent Spirit Awards? It's really great. No, I heard it's good. Yeah, they don't pull any punches. They're really, really fun hosts together too. Did they do that last year? They did it last year and then they did it this year too.

Oh, they did it this year too. Oh, so everybody's recycling hosts. Yeah, and they went after all the Métis douchebags pretty hard. What happened? They went after Harvey Fierstein and all the- Harvey Fierstein? Not Harvey Fierstein, Weinstein. That's how dead to me Harvey Weinstein is.

He's become Harvey Fierstein in my head. Harvey Fierstein isn't problematic, is he? Probably not. No, he can't be. No. No. No, you can't be. Come on.

I mean, we should just ask him. He's right here. I'm fine. We are trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now. And the way we like to open up is by asking Brandy, what is a myth? What's something people believe is true that is not? Soaking dishes is bullshit. Soaking dishes is bullshit.

You ever, like, put a dish in the sink and put some water in it and then you're like it's just soaking no just wash it oh right just wash it using that to sort of rationalize your yeah you procrastinating doing the dishes yeah it's like soaking isn't gonna do anything i disagree yes i soak all my dishes thoroughly for at least three days uh yeah miles sheep sheep don't soak that shit just wash your damn dishes it's either yeah like usually what happens when you soak it is like you have a dish that the food is already dried up yeah versus really you just attack that shit the second you're done using it exactly it comes right off yeah yeah just clean it when you use it and then you don't need to soak it are you in so did you have some kind of debate with somebody who's a soaker uh i was like doing this this morning and my boyfriend was like you could

say soaking dishes since you yell at me about it all the time why don't you bring up that myth what's something that i get mad about and he was like uh the thing that you just yelled at me for and then you're like that's right right. You want these dishes soaked. I think you should be allowed to soak dishes for as long as the water stays warm. But you know you've failed when you're soaking the dishes and you go back to it and the water's like ice cold by the time you get to it. And you're like, oh, this isn't doing anything. This is just gross. Cooked eggs in cold water.

Go kill yourself. That's awful. Just wash your damn dishes. Wash your damn dishes, folks. All right. Let's get into the news of the day. And last night we had an epic run on CNN and MSNBC by a gentleman named Sam Nunberg, with whom I was not familiar prior to this. I don't think anybody was. He really, you know, this was his debutante moment.

Yeah, he came out swinging. Yeah. And before, you know, Fox News has come out and been like, this was not fair. And it might not have been okay because he was clearly going through something. But this is also a dude who, like, got fired by Trump for being racist.

So yeah, by Trump for being racist. That's saying a lot. He liked the N word a lot on Facebook. He's a very racist kettle and a very racist pot. And he also claims to have created the idea for the wall too. So yeah, shout out to you. But yeah, he's like a, so this guy, he's like a former Trump aide and Roger Stone lover. He's like, I'm his protege.

So anyway, this guy got hit with a subpoena by Robert Mueller this week. Last week, I think he went to meet informally or did an interview with Robert Mueller. And then this week, he got a subpoena saying, fam, you're going to have to say all that shit in front of a grand jury now. And we need you to hand over all your emails with people like Carter Page and Steve Bannon bannon and roger stone etc and then he just blew a gasket because he was like last week he was on msnbc saying like you know i don't think it's a waste of taxpayer money like they're doing a very thorough investigation and i fully intend to cooperate and yeah like you know i i agree with this then suddenly it got real for him yesterday and he basically went on nearly every news outlet except fox he even called into local new york news to basically be like, I'm not cooperating with Robert Mueller.

He can't do shit. Was he going to arrest me? And which many U.S. attorneys who were like on these shows are like, yes, he can. It's called contempt of court. Yeah, absolutely. So actually, we have sort of a highlight reel of some of the things that he said on these various shows. Roger and I were treated like crap by donald trump okay the fact that i was fired for facebook posts which were fine racially intensive do you think that would have cost us a vote you know i know bob

muller i know i know that whole team and they and they're right and they probably have something on trump trump did something pretty bad if i had assumed what do they have i, and they probably have something on Trump. Trump did something pretty bad, if I had assumed. What do they have? I don't know. I have no idea, but they have something. Do you think they were more interested in Trump related to the criminal hacking which occurred, and we know there were stolen emails, or in relation to all the social media? I think they were interested in something with his business.

With his business? Wow. Yes. And if it's Roger, I'm not going to testify against Roger. Roger did not do anything. Roger was treated terribly by Donald Trump. And he's one of Donald Trump's oldest advisers. Yeah. But Trump is Trump is the most disloyal person you've ever going to meet. I'm worried that they're trying to make a case against Roger, that they're that they're maneuvering.

What would that case be? I have no idea. I have no idea. But it's ridiculous. Would it relate to WikiLeaks? I could tell you, once again. Would it relate to WikiLeaks? It could relate to WikiLeaks. Does your lawyer think what you're doing now tonight is a good idea? I have no idea. I think he may have dropped me, frankly. I don't know. I definitely know my father doesn't like it, and my father's

one of my co-counselors. I think your family wants you home for Thanksgiving, and I hope you will testify. Here's the thing no it's not ridiculous sam oh that was a former u.s attorney talking to him yeah when he said isn't this ridiculous he's holding his subpoena from robert like in a crumpled fist like harrison ford just picking up a piece of paper and balling it up no sam this is not ridiculous this is the This is the law.

She's so sad for him. Yeah, because he's like using the argument of like, I don't believe Roger Stone is guilty. Therefore, why do I have to cooperate? And clearly this is a man who the pressure is mounting, right? But that was just like kind of the more weird shit that he said that a lot of people in the Trump camp are like, oh, what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck is wrong with you? A lot of people in the Trump camp are like, oh, what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah.

And he talked about how he had been very honest throughout this process, which I don't know. Yeah, but it was weird. Like, he also had a couple weird moments, too, where, you know, this is something. OK, so that was a shit that was dealing with Russia. At least on topic. Yeah, on topic. And then he also just kind of was just talking some weird shit also. then he also just kind of was just talking some weird shit also yeah i said for sarah huckabee to start criticizing me i would say and i know what and i know you may not like it the way i say it she should shut her fat mouth you talked about her fat mouth you called her a fat slob

in another interview that you did on new york one um i reached out to a trump ally before you came on to say what's your what do you think about sam what would you say and essentially this person told me i just want to be direct because he's not the only one to say it yeah you're drunk or off your meds talking to you i have smelled alcohol on your breath well i i have not had a drink you haven't had a drink so that's not no no you haven't had a drink today my answer is no. I have not. Anything else? No. No. No.

Besides my meds. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's tough. I mean, because in one aspect, right, this is a man. It depends on what theory you want to subscribe to. So here, there are a few theories around why this is happening. One is that this is a Roger Stone orchestrated stunt because he has in the past said theater isn't politics.

He's like, I look at as performance art and sometimes I do art for performance sake. So that's one way of looking at it. But I fail to see how this actually helps him. OK, that's one. That's one thing. He was angry at Trump is another one because they've had beef. He's been fired like I think twice and then rehired by Trump. And a lot of his comments were like aimed at him being like, oh, he's like disloyal or he did some crazy shit.

So that could be one theory. Another one is that he might have been trying to impeach himself as a witness. And by doing this, just sort of showing himself to be an unreliable like witness who can't't be used which is an interesting theory but i think most people feel like he may have just broke under the pressure and and i think some of the argument is that like well this they took advantage of a man who clearly is going through something but the fact of the matter is like this is someone who like reached out to all these places and this is a newsworthy thing and i don't think anyone was necessarily exploiting the fact that he was like that. Many people were giving him legal advice and were very concerned for him.

This is not good for you. Why are you doing this? And I guess it's kind of the fair thing journalistically to be like, we think you're drunk because that at least gives people some context for you know his behavior yeah and also just like to say the obvious fox news taking the moral high ground like if they had if they had a mentally ill former obama aid who was like just ranting and raving they would make that person the new host of their like bill o'reilly hour right i think someone needs to interview his dad right i need to know more because everything every one of trump's aides once they get fired it kind of just feels like they're just screaming at their dad right like the whole administration just feels

like that right you know where i'm just like what what did you what do you need what's happening right now yeah like how does his dad feel about the way that he talks about Roger Stone? You know what I mean? Right. It's like there's – Because he over and over is like, he's like a father figure to me. He's my dad. Right.

Oh, my gosh. He's like, no, I'm your dad, Sam. Yeah. No, Roger is. He'll never be my dad. But yeah, I guess this is – I don't know. It's very interesting to see because clearly he's like – they're trying to set Roger Stone up for a perjury trap. So it may seem like a,

like Roger, uh, Mueller already has all his emails. So he's just like, bro, I just need you to put this shit on wax in front of a grand jury that I can prove that Roger Stone was lying to me. Um,

and I think the pressure of that is became too much for him because I, who knows, he might think that he is sort of like the missing piece that connects a lot of other dots. And maybe he just feels like that responsibility is too great or he doesn't want to be known as that like the guy that ratted out Roger Stone. But Roger Stone is also a scumbag. Well, they're also like all narcissists. So it's like hard for them to realize that anything is more powerful than them in any way.

And the US government is. Yeah. Even though they thought they were running it for a minute so it's like them having to confront the truth about themselves like oh no there is a legal system ah yeah you're not above it right yeah and that's what a few people were saying they're like look if if witnesses could determine themselves if they wanted to testify because they believe the person is innocent or guilty he's like we would not have a legal system so like fam you can't just be like no he's innocent so i don't have to cooperate yeah um but you know sam but by the end of the night he did come around and saying like i will cooperate because i think once multiple news networks are like this is not a good i like what you're doing

is ill this is not good yeah exactly uh one question i have just in with regards to the Yeah, exactly. her at MSNBC called him because he's like a media strategist. So she had his number and she's like, yo, why don't you come here and explain this? And I don't think she expected him to just fully like melt down. And then he went on Jake Tapper show. Right. So did Tapper see his interview previously and was like, I'm sure at that point and book him immediately, like in that moment. Yeah. Or I'm sure.

Yeah. Cause I mean, I think it all started with the Katie tour thing on msnbc so then that's when everyone was like oh we got to get him on our show we got him on our show yeah exactly and ari melber when he was on ari melber show like a lot of the clips came from that one like you know he's like an attorney or whatever and he was really trying to like help him map out what his thoughts were and everyone like sort of on that broadcast was a little kind of like couldn't believe what was happening yeah i mean there's no there's nobody that's just like uh do putin now do putin like there's nobody that's like setting him up to fail yeah yeah exactly i think everyone is just

kind of trying to be like do you want to actually explain that here yeah maybe right is this the one that you'll because you're like the first person to say, fuck Bob Mueller. I'm not doing shit. Because he was like, what, are you going to arrest me? It's like, ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're like, do you remember Susan McDougal?

Like she refused to testify in the Bill Clinton thing and she went to jail for 18 months. Yeah. So, hmm. Do you know what the Justice Department is? It can happen. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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That just happens any time you say Mitt Romney's name. The dude is just on fire. So. I love ketchup. Mitt Romney is. That would be his take. Favorite food, ketchup. Ketchup. Ketchup, plain. Yeahetchup. Ketchup, plain.

Yeah, exactly. What, plain? I just lick it off a paper plate. This is a crazy thing. Sometimes people spell it K-C-A-T-S-U-P. What's that about? What, are you like an old, dying Reagan? That's what I assume he sounds like at this point. I assume he sounds like at this point. So he just released a campaign video for he's going to be running for Senate in Utah.

It's basically a foregone conclusion that he's going to win. Yeah. And apparently Utah is mostly comprised of diners based on the video that he released because he just visits diner after diner and then like cut to him shaking the cook's hands at the diner. It's just like a lot of a lot of diners. And then also weirdly, he's like standing inside this giant hangar like building. Like it almost looks like a blimp hangar or something. something but then you eventually realize that uh or i eventually realize it's the speed skating rink that he like had built for the uh salt lake city olympics i guess and he's proud of that so wait so he was behind a speed skating rink being built i think he was uh linked deeply with the bringing the olympics to salt lake gotcha so that's something he's proud of. So he's like, subtle reminder of that time I brought the Olympics here.

I'm standing in the most, like, in the strangest setting possible, a speed skating rink. You know how you, like, bring the kids down to the speed skating rink on Saturday. Do a quick 1,500 meters. Right. Yeah. Do a quick 1,500 meters. Right. Yeah.

So another reason that Mitt is in the news is – so the New Yorker just did a deep dive profile of Christopher Steele, who is the guy behind the salacious Trump dossier. All lies. All lies. And his name has gotten so much associated with the PP tape that I had sort of begun to associate him with being like a TMZ conservative very careful uh you know government bureaucrat who you know had his background in mi6 and uh is it mi6 or mi5 mi5 is from mission impossible i think oh okay it's a mst3k mst3 yeah. He has a background with MST-3K where he did training and weapons. But he was MI6's main Russia bureau chief, which is, as a spy that the New Yorker interviewed put it, you don't put a dummy in charge of that. You have to be very careful and, good at your job. And then he, you know, left that job and opened a private sort of security firm and, you know, made a lot of money doing security work for people and like investigations into Russia. So this is a guy who has like, I don't know, he's not who you would expect based on the media coverage up to this point. his secretary of state, which big position. And that that was actually a rumor that was going on going around during the transition that he was going to bring Romney on there. They had dinner together. Oh, yeah.

And according to this Steele memo that he wrote and he said it was based on like a basically a senior Russian official came in and told Trump that he wasn't allowed to bring Romney on as secretary of state because Romney was. I don't know if you remember the 2012 election, but he came out and was like, you know, the number one threat facing America is Russia. And we were all like, you idiot. Would you just get off your time machine? I think Obama literally said something like that. is Russia. And we were all like, you idiot. Would you just get off your time machine from 1955? I think Obama literally said something like that. He was like, yeah.

And we are also not, no longer fighting with muskets and stuff. You like really shit on him for being like out of touch. Cut to 2018. Right. Exactly. And it turns out he was onto something. But, you know, the Kremlin was paying attention to that.

And apparently, according to this memo, they intervened. They stepped in and said, we do not like him as your pick for secretary of state. And for some reason, the Kremlin's opinion really mattered to Trump. And that totally deaded the idea of Mitt Romney being secretary of state. Wait, did they speak to Trump through like an intermediary or something? I'm not sure. It's basically – it says based on one source describes the senior Russian official. The official said that he was merely relaying talks circulating in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

But what he'd heard was that people were saying the Kremlin had intervened to block Trump's initial choice for secretary. So that's the water cooler talk. Right. The Kremlin. They're like, hey, you know, we fucking we deaded Romney's nomination to be secretary of state. And they have a very weird relationship. Trump and Romney like Romney is, you know, not a big fan of Trump in at certain points. Putting it lightly, right?

Fucking fraud. Yeah. He said some pretty strong things about him. But then when Trump endorsed his endorsed him as a candidate for the Senate, he accepted his endorsement. So it's weird. They seem to be like doing this back and forth. And this would just kind of explain sort of the very complicated relationship they seem to have uh the real ross and rachel right real ross uh the dinner that they had in the aftermath trump came out and was like oh i think there were rumors being spread

from the trump white house that he was just toying with romney to like be a dick but uh that doesn't really make sense. Yeah. You can toy with somebody in so many other ways, but I guess that's a good way to throw the narrative off of like, oh, that's why we at the last minute switched who the Secretary of State is going to be. Yeah, so who did they end up choosing? This guy named Rex Tillerson, I think he worked as the CEO for ExxonMobil. Right.

I think he worked as the CEO for ExxonMobil and closed one of the biggest deals between them and Rosneft in Russia. So he did one of the craziest deals in Russia with ExxonMobil, and he was awarded Russia's Order of Friendship by Putin. He has an official medal that says, I am Putin's friend, essentially. like medal that says i am putin's friend essentially uh and yeah that that ends up being who they go with after after romney is deaded as a candidate yeah that's oh god i mean what do you what are we gonna do huh it just feels like rex tillerson feels like a name that was chosen like kaiser soze you know what I mean? It feels like Kevin Spacey just looking around a room and being like, Rex Tillerson.

Yeah, it's a T-Rex dog. An old man like tilling a field. Yeah, exactly. It's just like such a villain. Oil boy. Hashtag oil boy. Actually, I forgot to say that. That's a shout out

to Ethnically Ambiguous whenever they bring up old Rex Tillerson. Hashtag oil boy. Yeah. So yeah. Can you till a field am i saying that right yeah it's like a tiller right yeah okay i was just curious where kevin spacey was in this hypothetical room where he sees a t-rex like he's in a child's room sees a t-rex doll a tiller looks out the window and there's an old man tilling a field and then then some dude from New York is like, nah, son. Like, I was like, well, Eric's tilling a sign.

What a very weird location I found myself in. All right. We wanted to move on to another sort of salacious rumor. Because we're not hardcore journalists here at the Daily Zeitgeist. We just want to tell you about the most interesting thing we read about that day. And wildly speculate. Yeah speculate and wildly speculate. It's it's fun. And Kurt Eichmalt, who was the guy who broke the pussy grabbing tape and other people called the Access Hollywood tape.

I should have called it that. But we're not journalists. Right. But he he came out and said that when he was at Newsweek a couple of with a source where he was like threatening them and Newsweek had to settle it out of court. So I was like, well, he seems like a very – like I've heard him interviewed. He seems like a pretty trustworthy guy, and it turns out maybe not. So let's take this with us a few grains of salt there's another source on this that who i do trust uh but so basically the rumor is that you

know trump always brags that he has never touched a drug or a drink in his life never smoked a cigarette uh because his older brother died of alcoholism and the way he talks about drugs is very like this simplistic. Just don't do it, kids. Just don't do it. Not understanding addiction very much. Right. Not at all. Just kill the drug dealers.

Right. OK. That is something he has mentioned actually. Kill them all. Yeah. Again, just envying the way that dictators like Duarte have it. You can just kill the drug dealers. Wouldn't it be great to be president for life? Right.

Yeah. No, it sounds awful actually. So during the 80s, there was this doctor in New York who was prescribing the rich and famous of Manhattan diet pills that were essentially speed. And when they released Trump's medical records prior to the 2016 elections, Eichenwald found that Trump was one of the people who had prescriptions for what they called a metabolic imbalance. So he was basically prescribed this speed drug called diphtheropreon or Tenuate was what the brand name was. You on that Tenuate, man?

So he had that from 1982 to at least 1990. And speed just makes a lot of sense. Like a lot of dictators are on speed. Hitler was on speed like to a terrifying degree like the entire time during his entire rise to power. The behaviors and the sort of thinking that speed causes all sort of line up with the thinking that a lot of dictators and Trump at times have displayed. And the source for this, besides Eichenwald, who I trust, is Spy Magazine.

Spy Magazine was this 80s New York magazine, 80s into the 90s New York magazine, where it was the guy who ended up being the editor in chief of – Graydon Carter. Yeah, Graydon Carter and a bunch of other just really talented, funny journalists. They did where they sent the hundred richest people in Manhattan a check for fifty dollars and then twenty five dollars and then twelve dollars like on down until they got to one penny. And they wanted to see who would actually cash the checks. And the only person who cashed the one penny check was Donald Trump. was Donald Trump. But so they they were obsessed with Donald Trump. And they were the first people who like caught on to this because they were, you know, really plugged into the Manhattan social scene. And they knew that all these wealthy, you know, movers and shakers were basically on legal speed. And, yeah, there's also a tradition of famous Americans who – like Elvis, for instance. People know he died of a drug overdose, but he during his life was famously anti-drugs and talked about how he had never touched a drug.

What he was was just prescribed tons and tons of speed and other, you know, quote, prescription drugs that were basically legal street drugs. And, you know, that ended up killing him. But he, like, went to Nixon and, like, asked if he could be his drug czar. He, like, made up a job and was like, yeah, man, that's what you should – that's what I should be. Oh, hell yeah. The king of drugs. He also showed up with a cape and a handgun. And no ID.

No ID. He had no ID when he did that. He just was like – That's dope though. He's like, you know who the fuck it is. I'm Elvis. You're going to let me in with this fucking revolver. I got a gift for the president.

Like, oh, shit. I got a gift for the president. Right. Oh, shit. But yeah, so he like wanted to sort of narc on the Beatles and the Beach Boys and all the people who were like using marijuana and LSD. He like was like, I'll go undercover and I'll tell you about them to Nixon. This is a meeting that actually happened. The photos are insane. But yeah, so that I don't know.

Another example of somebody who was, quote, anti-drug. But are we saying that there's evidence that he was on these drugs until about 1990? Does it kind of go on to say that he's probably still taking greenies or dexedrine or whatever? We don't know. Right. We don't know. I would say probably. He always looks like he has bugs under his skin.

He just looks very uncomfortable with himself. He's either still on them or he's still detoxing from them. I don't know. There's something just like about him at the debates and stuff. Just all the sniffing and like constantly. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

According to Spy, Tenu8 is a diet drug similar to Dexedrine, which is like basically high grade, high octane speed. Yeah. And known to cause effects that include confusion and hallucinations. Yeah. Man, see, he's just – just get him on weed or something. Yeah. No, man. Donald Trump's a huge fan of Minor Threat.

I know, right? Wait, who's Minor Threat? The band. The straight edge band. Oh, okay. Donald Trump is a huge fan of Minor Threat. I know, right? Wait, who's Minor Threat? They're a big straight edge band. Oh, okay. Yeah. Iconic album cover too. Yeah. Cool.

All right. Straight edge icon, Donald Trump. Hey, what they all say, if you're not now, you never were. We're straight edge, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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and alcohol. Right. Yes. And also earlier you said- But they're like into like punk and stuff usually, right? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely associated with that music scene. Right.

I think other people just say, I'm boring. But the, what was I going to say? Oh, also MI5, it was the domestic intelligence agency for the UK. MI6 is like the CIA. MI6 is like the CIA. MI5 is like the FBI. Right. And they're all associated with Mission Impossible because Mission Impossible 5 is known as MI5. Exactly.

Right. And yeah, shout outs to – Tom Cruise. Oh, yeah. That's his name. Ethan Hunt, I was going to say. All right. Shout outs to Tom Cruise.

Shout outs to my man Tom Cruise. You're getting a bum rap over there, man. We want to use this last section to talk about things that are trending in the Google sphere. And the main thing that is trending is The Bachelor. That is all anyone wants to talk about in America today. And so we have brought on our Bachelor expert, super producer, Anna Hosnier. Just hearing that mic arm swing over like an iron door. You rang.

It's time for the Bachelor talk. Hi, thanks for having me. Oh, thank you so much for being here. It's great to have you. As you guys probably don't know, I produce a podcast about The Bachelor. With Arden? Arden, Maureen, and Aaron Foley. What's it called?

It's called Will You Accept This Rose? I will. And it's not on this network? No, it's a podcast that is an aggressively intellectual deep dive into The Bachelor. So what happened on this finale? Because I remember last week you were really upset because I handed you a tabloid that basically spoiled the result of the show. Oh, damn. A week early.

And look, you already, you're tearing up. No, it's fine. No, I'm sorry. Please let us know what happened. Okay. Last night was, it was a three-hour finale, you guys. Jesus Christ. To call it an emotional roller coaster, it's just not doing it any justice.

I had to be put to bed after this finale. I physically was in sweats. I couldn't think straight. You were wearing sweatpants? No, I was completely naked by this point. I lost my mind. I was on the ground, like, writhing in pain. So our Bachelor, Ari Leyendyk Jr., emphasis on the lying.

Ooh. Whoa. Shots fired. Wait, are you telling me the Bachelor lies? I got a reality contestant. Wait, hold on. What? Go on.

I got a news update on my phone that said he might be the biggest Bachelor villain ever. So I'm ready for anything right now. So what went down? What did he do? Basically, he... Not basically. I need the whole story. He told both the final women that he loved them both which is if anyone watched the bachelor you know

you're not supposed to do that what do you mean you're not supposed to tell them you love them you're not supposed to give them any sort of like like anything that can make them think that they're ahead of the other girl oh so you can't one four three anybody on the show you can't you're not supposed to because it's not fair because that girl will start to believe that you were just saying it to her it's manipulative and then she doesn't know what's going on with the other girl got you and she might think oh well he's only saying it to me so he's obviously going to pick me right right right okay so you're getting gas exactly what happened both the girls were super convinced that they were both going to win um and the way they edited is the girl who they have

speaking the most confidently about the relationship tends to get kicked off, which is always heartbreaking. Now, is that just how they edit it, or it's just a thing, like a karmic thing where they... I think it is editing, but I'm not sure it possibly is a karmic thing. Right. Because maybe they get cocky and they start to not be able to see outside themselves. Well, it's a reality show show so you're not supposed to but um he picks one girl becca k the brunette to give some context because this is the world was it a brunette and a blonde is the final two yeah i mean that makes sense that tracks yeah he picks

her proposes and then sends lauren b home the blonde who was super confident that the relationship was strong and she would be the one to be picked. Who got 143 first? 143 means I love you. I love you. Back when we used to use pagers. For all the old people out there. If I recall correctly, it was Lauren. Okay. I love the one that lost. Okay. Yes.

And that's the one I was leaning towards him picking because they're both very bland people. So I was like, they're perfect for each other. They're two cartons of vanilla ice cream i honestly figured becca k was just just a tad bit too interesting for him because that's just the kind of guy he is he's from scottsdale arizona sorry um oh wow i just came for scottsdale but i love scottsdale if you've ever been to scottsdale i've done stand-up in Scottsdale. Your point stands. Thank you.

I don't think people from Scottsdale are like, this place is great. Anyway, he decides that he can't stop thinking about Lauren B. In the one month that him and Becca K. are together. So he decides that he's going to break up with Becca K. But do it with a full camera crew. As in they're meeting and she doesn't know what's going to break up with Becky K, but do it with a full camera crew. As in they're meeting and she doesn't know what's going to happen. She's waiting for them to have one of their secret meetups, as they do when the show's happening. So people don't know they're together. And he brings a camera crew in and she's all happy to see him.

And he's like, she thinks they're in love. And this is like a sure thing at this point. But they do reveal that he had been open, that he's struggling to – Make the decision? Or he'd been struggling until three hours before the proposal to decide who he wanted to be with. Oh, he proposed? Yes, which I think if you are literally so in love with two people, you probably shouldn't propose. You should probably, you know, take your time to figure out what you're doing.

Because even if you're the one getting proposed, you're like, but you also like that motherfucker too? Yeah. Oh, you love her okay right so i guess he was open that he was struggling to move past his feelings with lauren b to becca so i guess he told her but they were working together to do it yeah but of course he shows up at the camera crew breaks up with her then proceeds to just not leave for a good 25 minutes while she's just like please leave take the camera crew I don't have anything to say this is embarrassing this is terrible you're a bad person why would you do this

and it was so horrible to watch and then of course oh Chris the devil Harrison has to bring her out on stage he's the host Chris Harrison I don't watch the show so I'm like he's the guy that he's been Okay, thank you. Okay. I don't watch the show, so I'm like... I didn't know. All right. He's the guy that... I know the devil, though.

He's been hosting the show since it came out. Every season, you see him less and less as his money piles up, and he's probably like... We have a joke on the podcast that he double parks, runs in, does his bit, and then gets out of there. Yeah. Do you think he's ever slept with one of the female contestants? He was married for a very long time and recently got divorced, and there were photos of him with a former bachelorette who wasn't with her guy anymore darva conger andy andy dorfman having dinner we don't know if they were dating speculation was rising okay all right

i don't know where to go there fair fair anyway so chris comes through chris comes through on the live after the rose which is them they have like you know the chair what they talk to him in front of a live audience and he brings what's that? Is it a reunion or is it just him? It's just him.

Okay. They do like they talk to everyone so they bring Becca out and she's like they make her watch that whole thing. Becca's the one

who's not there. Becca's the one who got broken up with. Oh shit. They make her relive her breakup? In front of a live audience. Dope. So she looks straight crazy

when they cut to her like oh boy. Right. Okay okay now this part looks like it sucked for you of course um now are these real tears right now yes chris harrison has the nerve to say this is an exact quote for him to say this is trending and blowing up social media right now is a gross understatement which is just like okay thanks for letting us know this is all for ratings you asshole that's just his way of saying i'm not gonna lie to you a lot of people saw that he's like isn't this heartbreaking anyway could you believe the hashtags like it's just wait really no but that's basically what he was it was very it was not cool um and then he goes he asks her if she's seen ari since which she's like fuck no why would i see him that was like a 25 minute excruciating breakup where he kept following me around the house with a camera crew while i tried to hide in the bathroom

now why do you think he's doing that do you think he's doing that because the producers were like you have to be here for 25 minutes here's the thing i think because he could have this has happened in the past with Mesnick. I forget his first name. Unfortunately, he was a former bachelor who picked one girl and then went back and picked the second girl. But he didn't break up with her on a camera crew. He later came back and said that happened. That's the way you do it. You don't break a woman's heart after proposing to her with a camera like three camera crew.

And they showed it unedited. So side by side, you could see her reactions and his reactions. Both cameras at the same time. So she is, it was heartbreaking watching her have to deal with that. I couldn't imagine. I probably would have stabbed him. I would have grabbed the knife out of the kitchen and just went for his throat. Because I'm not a person who can handle reality TV and have cameras on me at all times.

So I don't, she kept her cool. She cried. She was a normal human being. And then she asked him to leave 40 times, which I don't, she kept her cool. She cried. She was a normal human being. And then she asked him to leave 40 times, which he wouldn't. He kept trying to talk to her. How do you feel about it? He probably felt guilty. You know what I mean?

Cause he just did that. And he did that for himself. Not even realizing like, yo, give her some fucking space. Be like, but I need to feel good about this too. So I'm going to keep following you till I get close. I can't leave without closure. Yeah. Which was just terrible.

So yeah, they bring her out and they make her watch that breakup. And then they ask her if she's seen him when she says no. And then they go, well, tomorrow we have another two hour after the episode live, which I believe they're going to show him reconciling with the other woman. And then they're going to bring them all together on the stage to talk. Has this Lauren girl, has she seen what he just did? I believe she probably saw it last night. Okay. I don't know if she's seen anything else.

This is all real time. This is all like real. It was filmed like earlier in the day yesterday. Okay. Got it. So had he proposed, where's the proposal coming? The proposal happens at the end of the official season. Okay.

So that already happened. That already happened. So they've been together for like, I think they were together for like a month and a half before he broke off the proposal. Wow. How much did you get paid to be a contestant on this show? You don't get paid anything. Only The Bachelor gets paid. Right.

Which is the way it should be. I've always said that. But then the hook is that like if you're one of the finalists, then you can be The Bachelorette the next season? Is that how that works? Yes, you have a good chance. Depending on after you get kicked off audition. You have to really bring the tears in the limo as you're driving home. You have to basically admit that you'll never love again and you're unlovable.

And you're broken. And that you'll never do this again. And boom, baby, you are the Bachelorette. Yes. Okay, I like this show. Lights, camera, action. We deserve Trump. We did it to ourselves.

We're doing three-hour things. We're watching people get emotionally destroyed. We're like, ooh, this is trending. So is the appeal to the show basically watching? Is it basically what we were talking about earlier with CNN and MSNBC, like watching somebody just emotionally and mentally melt down. I don't think that is. I think it's people. I think most people watch it because they truly believe that these people can find love.

And they watch it because of this like kind of romantic element of that could be me because it's reality TV. People kind of place themselves more in it than if you're watching a movie. So I think you're kind of able to like suspend your disbelief and be like, yeah, they are falling in love. For me, though, it's all about the trending social media. I love the hashtag. The memes.

Yeah. I love a good hashtag. I do it because I like to watch it and then it's actually more fun to talk to your friends about it. Okay. I like to support the rose industry. Actually, a very interesting thing happened after he proposed to her. Her rose broke. And I thought...

She should have known right then. When that happened, I was like, shut it down. Shut it down. Oh, man. Bad omen. Do you think Lauren will say yes? Oh, for sure she'll say yes. I think she will say yes because she is blander than a piece of white.

Girl, fool me once. And also, one of our podcast fans did a deep dive and found her mom's, during hometowns when we went to her house, she had one of the most conservative, white, Trump-supporting families I have ever done see. Her father was all like,

I'll play, I was in the military, I'll play golf, and that's that. Yeah. Her father was all like, I'll play. I was in the military. I'll play golf. And that's that. Yeah. And it was, and the, the mom would, I was just sitting there like,

don't speak in less spoken to vibe. And, uh, and then someone, one of our fans went and found her Twitter, the mom's Twitter. And let's just say she, some hot takes.

Uh, she believes Roy Moore. That's all. Oh, wow. Oh boy. Yeah. Judge Moore.

Uh, yeah. All right. Judge Roy, put some respect on his name. Uh, all right. Thank boy. Yeah. Judge Moore. All right. Judge Moore. Put some respect on his name. All right. Thank God they're getting TV shows. Yes. You know. Anyway, she has found love and we're all so happy for her.

Well, good. Now I'm relieved. So the finale, the three-hour finale stretches into two more hours tonight. Yeah. Are you emotionally prepared for that? No. Okay. Okay. All right. What else is trending on google right now uh heather locklear uh beat up her husband that is something that happened

i guess last week last week but uh that is something people are google catch up with us jack come on uh and then a bollywood actress passed away. How are we saying her name? Shreedevee? Shreedevee. Shreedevee. Shreedevee. Shreedevee. And I'm sorry if we botched that.

Yes. Because we watched a video where they were saying the name, and we think that's what they said. But she's prolific. R.I.P. Shreedevee. Shreedevee. Yeah. R.I.P. Shreedevee. RIP Shreedibi.

Yeah, RIP Shreedibi. Weirdly, most of the searches on that were from New Jersey, and we found out that Newark, New Jersey has one of the largest Indian populations in America. Yeah, like New York, New Jersey, that whole – those combined have like – yeah, it's the highest concentration of Indian Americans. Usually it'll be the leading state search trends will be 100 to 90 in the second place, and this was 100 to 40 in the second place. It was that much ahead of other states. So yeah, shout out to all the Indian people in New Jersey, I guess. And New York. And New York. And then finally, Miles, we want to talk about the North Korean peace talks.

Yeah, well, so this is kind of crazy. Apparently, North Korea and South Korea are getting somewhere with their peace talks, and they are willing to denuclearize, says South Korea, which we will see if that actually happens. Right. Trump came in from the sideline and was like, yeah, we'll see. We'll see about that. Hopefully, yeah. He's like, we're willing to go either way very hard though. Like, okay, my man. Shut the fuck up. So we'll see. I mean like – Let them talk. 4D chess on the side of North Korea. But it seems like they just want some maybe economic inclusion in the world.

And they're willing to give up some nuclear weapons. But we'll see. But it's a good sign. I'd rather hear that than a fucking nuclear missile launch imminent. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah.

No, absolutely. Which is a very easy decision between two options. But yes, I'm glad to know. I can't believe you went with that one, Miles. You would think, Miles. These are the two options. Peace or fucking total nuclear annihilation. Here's the thing.

You think that's easy, but history proves. Right. Yeah, who knows? But again, yes, it's been a long time. But the thing is, like, one of our top ambassadors, like, quit, like, last week, too. So I don't know. I mean, hopefully they can figure something out. Top ambassadors to Korea?

Yeah. Wow. Got a huge vacancy in that department. So don't let them keep talking. But you know, Rex Tillerson, he's not, you know,

he's not really interested in staffing up that state department. So. No, man, he's got a fake limp to work on. He's a hashtag oil bomb. And it looks like the West Virginia teacher strike has come to an end and they got what they were asking for. Yeah.

A 5% raise. All of that for 5%. Fuck. Come on. Damn. Like you should be giving – man, teachers – shout out to all the teachers because I feel like – Seriously. People who were fortunate enough to get a good education, that's off the backs of people who are so dedicated to teaching you.

Yeah. So, yeah. It's only the right thing to do. Absolutely. Brandy Posey, it has been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? Yeah. I'm on the all over the internet.

On Twitter and Instagram, you can find me at Brandazzle. I'm at Stand Up Comics. I tour all over the place. My website's brandyposie.com with all my dates. I have a podcast called Lady to Lady with Barbara Gray and Tess Barker. It's super fun. It's like three of us hanging out with other female comics just like riffing and being dumb. We took French Stewart to Sizzler recently, so that was pretty fun.

You took French Stewart to Sizzler? Yeah. Bottom of White Wine Spritzer took him to Sizzler. I mean, we're living our best lives over at Lady's Lady. What's French Stewart like? He's the man. Dope. He rules.

He came on because one of my co-hosts was obsessed with him in high school. That was like her high school crush. From Third Rock? Yeah. Like the Third Rock iteration of French Stewart? Loved Harry Nelson. Okay. Loved Harry Solomon so much.

And basically, he was like, yeah, sure. I know my career is ridiculous. Let's make fun of it.'s get into it he's totally game he's a sweetheart i i have nothing but great things to say it's the idea of french stewart and sizzler together yeah that's a must listen he had a great time it was it was real real fun um and uh yeah lady to ladies of last um i have a show in la called picture this that happens monthly that's comedians paired up with animators and they live animate your jokes during your set. Super fun. We get people from like Pojack Horseman and Rick and Morty

and all that jazz come on and work with us. Yeah, find my stuff. BrandyPose.com. Everything's there. I was very excited. Find my stuff. It's out there. I have an album. It's called Opinion Cave. It's on Spotify. You can also find it. Boom. Nice. Or what you do, put that on loop all night. You know what I mean? Yes, please. Get her that little half cent. Yeah. I's on Spotify. You can also find it. It'll be amazing. Nice. Or what you do, put that on loop all night. You know what I mean? Yes, please.

Get her that little half cent. Yeah. I will take it. Yeah, just for real. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Super producer Anna Hosnier, where can people find you? Uh-oh.

Yes, we are keeping her hostage. All right, and moving on. You can find me at Anna Hosnier, A-N-N-A-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H, on Twitter. You can listen to my Bachelor podcast, Will You Accept This Rose, with Arden Marine and Aaron Foley. You can listen to my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous, on the HowStuffWorks Network. Yeah. to my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous on the HowStuffWorks Network. Yeah!

And, yeah, I will be in a mental hospital after this next two hours of the bachelor. Well, we'll send flowers. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist. We are on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

where you can find our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the sources for the information that we talked about today. That's going to do it for the episode, Miles. Do you have a song for us to ride out on? Yeah, you know, since we brought up Minor Threat, why don't we just do Minor Threat by Minor Threat?

Okay. Yeah. Straight Edge, baby. Straight Edge and Straight to the point with their song title. Apparently. And that's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys. We're not the first

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