The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump Planning A Comeback? Zoom Induced Facelifts? 4.29.21

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

In episode 898, Jack and Miles are joined by the Hot And Rich Show, This Podcast Is Self-Care, and JackAM's Cait Raft to discuss Republicans and their vaccine PR, Trump's rally plans, the Zoom effect, Joe Rogan and ethnical technology, Facebook's misinformation campaign, and more!FOOTNOTES: GOP Doctors’ Caucus Puts Out PSA Urging Constituents To Get COVID Vaccine Misinformation and flip-flopping from federal bureaucrats causing vaccine hesitancy 'Not an easy transition': Inside Trump's unconventional first months out of office US Plastic Surgeons Expect Boom in Procedures Below Zoom Line Joe Rogan spread anti-vaccine misinformation. Spotify's CEO is standing behind him Facebook’s A.I. Whiz Now Faces the Task of Cleaning It Up. Sometimes That Brings Him to Tears. How Facebook got addicted to spreading misinformation LISTEN: Born Jamericans • Send My Love Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Never trust a beat cop with a smile Alright, that's it That is courtesy of Rap Bohemian. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I am Miles. Miles Gray was a walk back in the day. I'm a gamer. I'm a chef and a pretty good podcast.

I'm a comic. I make beats. I'm everything between. And yes. I'm a comic. I make beats. I'm everything between. And yes, I do smoke weed exceptionally. Thank you to Hank Skippio. That Meredith Brooks fucking banger. You know what I mean?

Well done. I mean, that really does sum you up. Thank you for being a chef. Yeah, he nailed it. I never thought about being a chef. I like to cook. I don't look at it. If that makes me a chef, then so be it. That's how I always put it. That's an awesome thing for an actual

chef to say. If that makes me a chef. I've only looked at it as nourishing others in my community. And if that makes me a chef, then so be it. Just like food. All right. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented Kate Raft. Wow.

Hi. Thanks for having me. Thank you for gracing us. It's an honor and a privilege. With your yellow vibes. I'm here to bring yellow vibes. I love it. It's healing.

You invented yellow, if I'm not mistaken. Is that correct? I forgot about that. You did invent yellow. I invented yellow, yeah. We appreciate it. First it was red, bacon is that correct right that's i forgot about that you didn't know i invented yellow yeah yeah that was me we appreciate it yeah you were like i'm first it was red and orange and i said no yeah i was like i was like you know i'm just spitballing here what what if you tried bring them together i got some ideas how about this red orange yellow blue green indigo violet i don't

know let's let's just go off of that. I don't claim the whole Roy G. Biv. Just yellow. That was me. It was a whole bunch of people coming up with a bunch of stuff. Right. Without you, they would just be Rod Biv. Right. It wouldn't be Roy. It doesn't roll off the tongue. Kate, where are you coming from? Where are you zooming to us from? I'm here in L.A. in Echo Park.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. We got a little heat wave coming. We do? Do we? It's weird. Tomorrow.

It's supposed to hit the high 80s, 90s Thursday. Today. Wow. The reality of the show. Today and tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. Oh, hell yeah. Wow. I could hit the beach.

Yeah, exactly. This is the weather portion of the show that we do hell yeah. Wow. I could hit the beach. Yeah, exactly. This is the weather portion of the show that we do up top. Yeah. Just really quick, man. Just want to make sure all the locals know time to get the suns out. The guns or buns or whatever you wanted, but just, you know, exposed to the sun's rays. Miles

heard Letterman made his big break as a weatherman. They all do. Yeah. Was Will Ferrell also a weatherman? Probably. I mean, my uncle was a weatherman in Omaha, Nebraska. He was like the only black man to be the weatherman in Omaha. To ever be in Omaha. He said the only other black dude he knew was the janitor at the TV station.

Wow. Wow. But everyone starts off with weather. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, Kate, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the Republicans having a tough time with their vaccine PR. We'll talk about Trump gearing up to do rallies again We've long suspected that Trump is zeitgang and listens to the show

And he heard yesterday's episode where we were saying Is he slipping a little bit? Is he out of sight, out of mind? No longer relevant And he has responded We're going to talk about the Zoom effect The effect of seeing our faces on Zoom constantly We're going to talk about the Zoom effect, the effect of seeing our faces on Zoom constantly. We're going to talk about, speaking of vaccine PR, the number one spokesperson for vaccines, Joe Rogan.

There's this new report on Facebook from the MIT Technology Review and just the impossibility of getting them to do the right thing. And I think those stories kind of tie in together because Spotify is backing Joe Rogan on the basis that he is extremely profitable. So we'll talk about that, all that, plenty more. But first, Kate, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so I wanted to be completely transparent, and it's not that exciting, but this morning I Googled Capricorn.

Okay. And something about me is that I love astrology a lot, but I only know my own own sign and I don't really know about other signs. I'm a Cancer. I could tell you a lot about Cancers. I feel like I know a lot about my own sign, but I don't know a lot of like other signs. And I'm trying to get to know my full chart a little bit better. So I'm a Cancer Sun'm a capricorn moon and i saw a meme about capricorns and i was like trying to relate to the meme but i forgot like what i forgot like you know what capricorns are all about i didn't know if it was like a fire sign or a water sign or an air sign

so i was trying to google capricorn and i think i just like i didn't i ended up not actually learning anything because i must have gotten distracted. But I did Google Capricorn this morning. You see, almost you almost forgot about Capricorn culture is what you're saying. I'm like trying to get more involved in Capricorn culture. That's sort of like on my 2021 vision board. OK, OK. Yeah, I don't.

Yeah. What is it? What are the broad strokes for a capricorn i think it's like okay i'm not an expert clearly i had none of us are including the people that say they are it's well yeah it's okay like it's i know it's all like fake but i know that like fake things are real you know yeah no i've not but we have this conversation all the time like we get it's not science but some of us vibe. But I vibe on it.

Okay. The Capricorn, I think, is like you're very organized and you're like getting your shit together and you're like doing homework. Oh, is that like the beginning of the year? Is that a January thing? I think. I don't know because it's not my sun sign. Miles, did you not hear? It's not her sun sign.

I don't know. What's that mean not her sun sign i don't know what's that mean oh shit main one that's why i said that i thought of my mom for being organized and she's a capricorn wow okay so i think like your sun sign is like who you really are and you're like moon sign is like the face that you show the world or something yeah oh okay so i think so i'm a capricorn moon so people must really think i'm like super on it yeah oh got it got it got it yeah yeah oh shit i didn't even think about that yeah i'm just just trying to get by what i should yeah as a non like zodiac enthusiast i've always associated capricorn with uh like some sort, I think, because I'm combining capers and corn in my head. So that's where I'm coming from. So lest you think you are not an expert, I will upstage your lack of expertise.

I'd eat capers and corn. Yeah, Capricorns. Or is it an apricot-corn hybrid, Capricorn? Yeah, capricorns. Or is it an apricot-corn hybrid? Capricorn? Yeah, it could be. Capri... Yeah. Oh, a caper-apricot-corn tribrid. Yeah, I'm into that.

That would taste weird as shit. Yeah, that would taste bad. But you know what? But with these... Look, just do it at home. Get yourself some frozen corn, some capers and apricot juice. Blend that up and let us know how that tastes. You just fucked up Capricorns for me because apricot is the one flavor.

You know how there are the people who are like, oh, I hate cilantro. It tastes like shampoo to me. Yeah, that's how that's how I am with apricot. I do not. I've never once enjoyed an apricot flavor. Yeah. If there are two, I've had a really ripe apricot flavor. Yeah. If there are two, I've had a really ripe apricot that I've,

I've, I've vibed with. Yeah. I probably didn't like it. Uh, wouldn't have enjoyed it. Well, this is why we're probably not going to be recording in physical

proximity to each other ever again. Yeah. Finding stuff like this out about each other. Yeah. Miles just made the throat slashing gesture at me. I did this Eastern promises one. The two fingers to either side of the, Damn, Miles just made the throat slashing gesture at me. I did the Eastern Promises one. With two fingers to your windpipe.

With two fingers to either side of the windpipe. I love apricots. Okay, leave me alone. Thank God, Kate. You want to do a daily podcast? Yeah, I'm free every day. Wait, but you still do your morning show? I do.

I do. Yeah, me and my husband, Jack, we do a morning show on Twitch every weekday. Your husband, Jack? Hold on. What the fuck? Miles, I've got something to tell you. No, that's Jack AM, right? Yeah, Jack AM. Classic. Classic podcast live streaming universe. Groundbreaking.

People should check it out. What is, what's something, I just check out all jack culture so that's uh that's why i'm up on it yeah his his radios all the stations are dialed to jack fm jack fm yeah yeah with the stupid ass interstitials yeah if people don't know jack fm in la the interstitial like jack fm your mom's gonna want you to turn this up no jack i thought like those stings are uh my ringtones anytime my phone rings it's a different one of those what is something you think is overrated kate uh okay the number 420 okay okay it's kind of a hot take but it ties into what I think is underrated, which is the number 69.

Yeah. I think we talk about 420 a lot. Listen, I love weed. I smoke it pretty much every day in some form. But, you know, I think in terms of like funny numbers and like good numbers, I think 69 is way better. Yeah. Way better. 420, like no one can get a straight story on what it even means.

Like, is it like the police code for weed? Like, or is it something else? Was it those old friends from the Northwest who started it? That group of friends? Like, who cares? Like, no one knows. It's not a clear backstory. It's like confusing.

It's I'm like 69 is so you get exactly what you're looking at. Yeah. 69 is funny. Like it's one of those things where like I'll be on Reddit and upvote. I'll be I'll see someone at 68 and I'll be like, ah, maybe I'm gonna get that to 69 to 69 and then 420 you just kind of see you're like and then you keep moving like there's a little more mischief involved with 69 than 420 this is coming from somebody who again you heard my aka i love the weed i have a fucking podcast called 420 day fiance but it's not because i think this shit is like the funniest thing just like

shorthand for weed but But whenever I see the two. Show your 420 chest piece, Miles. Show it. Oh, I'm actually getting it lasered off. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a whole story. It's becoming like beer o'clock, right? Like it's.

Well, wasn't it? I think I was saying Joel Kim Booster, I think, posted something about how 420, especially like the holiday. Because we just had the you know quote-unquote holiday or whatever the day 420 feels like very specifically millennial and will probably end with us because like now that we're in a world where there's recreational legal weed right it's not as counter-cultury and i even find myself like having i did so much work on ford i've never worked harder on 420 in my life this last year oh yeah i'm like i was on like 900 live streams because i've distilled my whole identity to weed and like you gotta come here smoke this and talk about this but it's like you were doing a 24-hour

phone marathon like lamans of weed smoking uh it was just too much but i think it does feel like now that it's gone like it's not like yo we could get we can get kicked out of fucking everywhere for this shit now just like can you smoke weed over there it's right yeah and it's thing i think there was a time when 420 like had a lot of magic to it especially like when we were younger you know i was like when i found out about 420 i was like oh my god like that's a funny number let's say it all the time let's put it in our aim screen names you know like but now now as i mature and weed is legal yeah it's it's lost some of the magic and i'm way more into 69 these days and yeah yeah 69 is way funnier 666 where would you put that on the oh wow 6 wow. 666 might be number two behind 69.

Yeah, I think so. 666 is great. 66.6, like any variation of 666. Now that I think about what your take is, it's really about the offense that it causes. Right. Because we live in a very puritanical society, the idea of 69ing can cause an older person to an older person to be oh 69 and 666 we got

the whole satanic panic but again weed it's just not it's lost weeds lost that sort of ability to to access people's pearl clutching reflex yeah the edge isn't there the edge isn't there sorry grandma 69 is happening whether you like it or not yeah so is do people like make a big deal of june 9th like does that come into play that's why i wanted to bring this up because i wanted to like soft pitch this to you guys like what if we did make june 9th like 69 day and we like kind of like started it could start right here on this podcast episode right maybe a campaign to get everyone 69ing on 69 or just celebrating 69 culture which is you know mutually beneficial joy yeah and you know come sexual liberation it's all about it's all about dual come dual power yeah um and now you know fuck d-day what the

who gives a shit about june 6th you know what i mean yeah june 9th oh my bad june 9th i'm thinking june 6th june wait 6 9 see i'm so bad with numbers june 9th what happened anything good i just want to make sure we're not uh we're not uh i don't want to step on another. The Athenian coup of 411 BC. And Nero took his own life in AD 68. I do celebrate the Athenian coup. Isn't 420 also like Hitler's birthday? Yeah. Yeah. So that's, I guess we need something to overshadow that a little bit.

But the Nazis already fuck with 420. I'm not saying like end 420 the holiday. I'm just saying like, let20 the holiday i'm just saying like let's build up june yeah i'm kind of i'm kind of for ending 420 as a whole it's because it's not a it's not really a holiday you know what i mean it's and plus i'm at this point most of us now who are like used to be like yeah man 420 i mean we're smoking weed to fucking get by so it's not the same shit where it's like times are hard yeah exactly we need it now yeah I don't I think 420 is great and we should continue

to take it back from the Nazis but I do like this idea of number ranks yeah it's plummeting in terms of value May 4th being bringing up the rear I'm assuming may the 4th be with you yeah that can that's you yeah that that can

that's fine yeah I can stay somewhere I mean I don't celebrate that one because I'm like not a Star Wars fan but right I celebrate that one by 69 that's yeah you can celebrate any holiday by 69 that's the

beauty of 69 but I think it needs its own day you know like it yeah yeah six i mean it's so it's right there in the in the numbers six nine and yeah june 9th is is lacking yeah in terms of uh like what actually you know like there's not something huge happening there's like a lot of historical things happening around that date but nothing where you're like all right six nine right so it's like we need a we need a holiday at that time like yeah like a month before like fourth of july ish like let's like have a holiday on june 9th it's a good time for it yeah and it is like kind of the beginning of horny season, the beginning of like summer. Horny summer.

Horny summer vibes. Like, let's have a horny. We have no horny holidays. Like, I guess Valentine's Day. Yeah, what's the horny holiday? Valentine's Day is like the only horny holiday we have. And I don't consider it. And that's laborious.

It's like, that's like, that's like, if that's the horniest we have, like we can do better. It's, you know what? This is perfect because it's the solstice this year is June 20th, and you need like 11 days just to warm your body up for official horny season. So 6-9, you 6-9, get ready for June 20th. Longest day. Yeah. I mean, the longest day to 69.

Yeah. Let's have some babies born nine months. Actually, I guess not. Mouth babies? I don't know. Yeah, you can't have a baby from 69. That's why it's also great. That's also what's great about it. That's what's great about it. There you go. Why do you want to have one of those? Let's keep it mouth baby only.

Yeah. Mouth baby. That sounds like a Yahoo answers question. Get pregnant from 69? Yes. What is... I mean, I don't think I have to ask what's something that's underrated. I think we just already figured out. That was it.

That was it. The relation between 420 and 69. 69. Damn. I've been thinking about this a lot. Like, I'm very passionate about it. Yeah. It's been on my mind.

Yeah, they make... Look, they are numbers that make you laugh, but in terms of raw power, yeah it's been on my mind yeah they make it look as not they are numbers that make you laugh but in terms of raw power like you could power a car off of 69 69 it transcends even being a number like it is a picture it's a painting yeah right yeah because i think of like the first time my friend ty he was like a few years older than me. He told me, he's like, you know what 69 is? I was like, what? You know what I mean?

Because this is how you learn about shit when you're a kid. Yeah. And I was like, what's that? He goes, it's a, so he's like, he's like, okay, so here's a six and a nine. And I was like, all right. And then he like, but then he took them and he like tried to manipulate them. So the tail of the six and the nine, they like went into each other. He's like, and then that's like when you both do that stuff and i'm like okay but what is what is head right this is very early

on in my life i was like okay got that part um but i don't know what these other things so she like blows on it what a blow job like so they're funny like i you it's so crazy what the it's so crazy when you're like a kid and you find out what blow jobs are i remember being just like that's not real like that's a joke that's stupid that's where the peepee goes yeah i was like so blown away and yeah you know it's it's it's forever funny it's forever funny it is it's a fun like uh catching your parents having sex gross catching your parents 69ing like there's not like that's funny you can't you gotta just wait so you would wait would you rather catch your parents 69ing or having sex i mean i want them under the covers but no you No, you got to see. You got to fucking take this in with your eyes.

Yeah. What will cause less trauma, you think? 69 would cause less trauma. Because you'd have a laugh about it. You'd have a laugh. You can't not laugh. What are you guys doing? Wait, Josh and the bull?

Okay. I'm just like, what are they... Because someone will have to say something, and they're going to have genitals in their mouth. Yeah, yeah. When they're like... Yeah,itals in their mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like if the birds and the bees talk was just about 69 and not about anything else.

Actually, that'd be like way less pressure. Yeah. That would be a great psychological experiment to do where somebody just explains that as the only sex act and see like how the person grows up you know like there are those psychologists who like raise their kids not knowing like never describing a color or something like that or pain or using the word pain and using things like sensations that's a good thing people try and do with language one guy raised his kid uh full cling on uh to see how that turned out i mean that would i think that would create better outcomes equitable outcomes uh for people to know that it's about you know mutual satisfaction right you know 1690

i think by saying that you're already establishing the relationship of this synergistic sex act where one and the two people have to to supply each other with the pleasure rather than like fucking because then you'll go down something just searching weird porno you'd be like oh just just pump away and that's it rather than getting that good 69 literature and it transcends like sexuality gender like anyone can 69 anyone like you don't have to presume your kids are going to be like doing you know straight straight sex yeah right it keeps it vague keep no general descriptions yo your mouth on what they got their mouth on what you got

yeah that's it that's all you need to pop in baby that's all you need to know and they're like uh mr gray we've had a lot of complaints uh for whatever you're teaching when you're substituting in the math class was numbers oh i got some math for you yeah okay six plus nine uh equals a satisfied partner okay uh okay what are we learning about oh you, you're only doing Division yet? Okay, I forgot. Sorry, kids. I was just thinking the two things we've projected is a world where the Titanic doesn't sink and a world where 69ing is the basis for explaining all sex to people. Yeah, let's do it. Incredible.

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iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and let's talk about just vaccines in general and how the Republicans are handling the whole situation on like, you know, what the fact that there is clear science saying this is good for the country. Yeah. So where are we at? Imagine telling your child sex is missionary style their whole lives and then you introduce someone called 6090 and you're like what the hell i thought it was it was just straight boring missionary what is this 69 thing i don't know i don't like that this is kind of where republicans are at with screaming at their base about how no one knows what's going on with covid not even science not even the. Not even the doctors. Not even the experts.

So why are they making us do this stuff? They don't even know. If you remember, that has been like the rhetorical thrust of their entire fucking everything they've been saying this last year. Nobody knows who gives it. Nobody knows anything. Right. So there's a real problem now because on top of that, they also had, you know, Trump who almost died from the fucking virus and then refused to let people see that he got vaccinated, even though he told people he did. He's like, I don't want them to see my upper arms. Under cover of night.

Can you put an up jewel sheet over my arm when the injection is given? Sort of feels like what his vibes may have been. I would have loved to see that. Just him in like a sleeveless going in for the backs. We don't need to see him in a sleeveless going in for the jack for the backs been through enough man we don't need to see him but just now but if you're looking at the numbers like clearly we're the numbers are falling off in terms of inoculations and like the people who want them seem to have be in the process of getting them which leaves a huge chunk of people who are like not fucking with it at all and when you look at who is not getting the vaccine

if you're a vaccine skeptic uh you might be a republican because and male essentially more than anything and when you look at how herd immunity is absolutely what we need for any semblance of you know the olden days uh to come back you know like that none of that's going to happen we have millions of these assholes who are treating the vaccine like the last chance saloon for their toxic egos to put up a fight, to be like, no, I'm not giving into this. This is the last thing I'll do. So now there's a thing called the Republican Doctors Caucus, where there are members of Congress who are also doctors, physicians, eugenicists, and they are here to give a stern talking to

to the Republican voters that are passing, like, I'm good, I'm not getting that 5G shot. And I want to play this commercial for you because it's so fucking creepy that I'm already becoming a vaccine skeptic based on all these Republicans being like, hey man, you should get the shot. So here is the message from the concerned physicians

of the Republican Party. You today, not only as a United States Senator, but as a physician concerned for the health and safety of our nation. And today I want to talk with you about getting your COVID vaccine. Last year, the entire world was forced to face the COVID-19 pandemic head on. And now we, the American people, have the opportunity to achieve peace of mind. And live life as free as before by choosing to receive a COVID-19 vaccine. Okay. Everybody had to wear their fucking doctor's coat to remind me. It's like, I'm not just a racist on TV.

I'm a doctor on the side, too. I'm also a sous chef. I mean, doctor on the side. You can tell. They all, like, have the same face. Yeah. Do I have face blindness or do they all have the exact same face? No, they all look exactly alike. It's wild. I could

have drawn all these guys before this video started and I've never seen them before in my life. And for people who have not seen this, you can see the link in the footnotes, but it feels like a sketch where you're in a dystopian world where like you're like wait y'all are believing these fucking people because like i'm already suspect of them like just even though they're saying shit i'm like that's right people should uh you know think about their futures and being healthy uh

this thing is two minutes long but i just want to go they start going on by talking about like how we will get our freedoms back and they start using this freedom pitch. So I just want to play you the last 30 seconds. The freedom to do whatever Bill Gates tells me. Yeah, exactly. Where this angry man in a lab coat tries to just softly encourage you to get your vaccination. And over 90% of doctors in the United States have already chosen to get vaccinated. I look forward to the freedom that I, along with my loved ones, will regain once the vast majority of Americans are vaccinated. If everyone does their part in the coming weeks,

we will once again be able to worship together as a congregation. Gather with extended family. Okay, so there you go. They're on the freedom train. We'll have freedom. And 90% of doctors have been vaccinated. Okay. So there you go. They're on the freedom train. Yeah. We'll have freedom, you know, the freedom. And 90% of doctors have been vaccinated. I don't know if that is going to necessarily convince those people. They're not very charismatic, should we say?

The backdrop is also a giant syringe, which I don't think is the thing that you want to put forward, like at the front of your message to these people who are just clearly very scared of needles and don't like ouchies and are trying to incorporate that into their uh into like some brave political belief yeah what they need to put in the background is like a brett michaels concert right yeah yeah it's like you could be here it it's almost like whoever made the video just searched covid clip art yeah because it's so like just fucking archaic looking but i just want to say this remember the guy who i just we saw in the lab coat who was like 90 of doctors blah blah blah his name is senator roger marshall uh-huh and he also some reason, put out an op-ed in the Kansas City paper today, kind of going against everything he just said in that video. He's towing this weird fucking line where he's just like, I don't know if you guys know what the heck's going on.

Because he had to pivot to Biden bad or everything bad. I just want to read you some excerpts from this. He talks on talking about why. Why are vaccination rates so low in Kansas? What's going on? He says, in fact, almost half of Kansas, Kansas adults are uncertain about getting vaccinated. Why? Because like with most information surrounding the virus, politicians and bureaucrats in

Washington, D.C. have not been transparent or consistent as they share the science surrounding the vaccine. Oh, man, you were just trying to tell people easy nicey nicey get the vaccine get the vaccine then you put out your op and be like man these people don't the fuck they're doing they have they have these people on such off footing constantly he then says federal bureaucrats have changed directions with no meaningful explanation no end game insight and no consistency and blaming anthony fauci it's like were y'all do you not forget you were you were the problem and you were everything you just described you were the virus with the politicians not being transparent or consistent

yeah i mean it does make me feel good that like all the times that their central message is just incompatible with survival. Like, it's just they can't coexist. Like, that ideology and then just, like, anything about a healthy community. Like, they just can't do it. Right. So he has to completely contradict himself to get it out there. Like, that's got to be killing them a little bit right like just slowly on the inside no like doesn't that give you cancer if you're like going out

there being like and i am a doctor also so i know that this is where cancer comes from going out there saying the medical truth in like a poorly produced video and then like screaming at the top of your lungs they're lying to you like that's at a certain level like your soul dies a little no that's like you have to imply that they had a soul to begin with yeah like i feel like most for the most part like people like that like don't have an inner world like i don't think that they like give a they're just lizards. They are. They're lizards out in the sun baking in the hot LA weather. Right. Hey, with a high of 84

and a low of 60. Yeah. But it really, like, I think with... Sorry, I don't know why I took it back to a place of local weather, but I don't know. No, we had to. Yeah, we had to. It's called genius comedy. It's a callback. And these Republican doctors, I think because more than anything, when you're a

Republican doctor, you don't take you don't take the Hippocratic oath. You take the hypocritical motherfucker oath where you will constantly contradict yourself and not say anything consistent. And he goes on to just saying bureaucrats can't keep us from worshiping, gathering with extended family, traveling near and far with friends, enjoying life mask free. I hope you'll join me in choosing to receive the vaccine. Wait, which one is it? You're mad at them.

You're being like, yo, they fucked up. It's like they're because they're trying to keep the energy up that Biden bad still. But also, like, let's be real. But Biden bad still, but also like, let's be real, all the business owners that donate to me, they know people need to get vaccinated for their businesses to actually pick back up because the science will prevent that from happening. So I don't know there. I think this is the other thing, too, is they don't realize or rather. Yeah, they don't realize we've constantly talked about how the Republicans whole sort of platform of just untethering their supporters from reality is just a weird game to play because if you really need to explain something to them they're not going to understand like because the whole platform has been off no that ain't shit that

ain't real nothing's real and you went from okay well actually now we need y'all to get the vaccine please actually that that that was that was just a lot of nonsense or you know what um actually the election wasn't stolen it was just a lot of fuck all right too late huh like i don't there's i don't know how you come back it's uh yeah they're they're completely fucked in terms of like internal cohesion and internal like integrity of any sort of message i mean i think it's like they're they can like have the worst pr plan of all time that completely just like eats its own ass and still like as long as everyone just like hates the same thing enough like they'll just be fine because it's like all just based on like hating the same like list of things like really hardcore well yeah it's just truly all they

can do now is just try and create hatred because yeah they can't do policy they can't do anything else they really can't do anything else you know it's like fuck it we need to put hate towards trans people fuck it we need to put hate towards the scientific community or vaccines because they don't have the wherewithal anymore to actually like they're not the they're not fiscal conservatives or balancing them they're not any of that shit anymore no it's just it's just like let's all hate the same let's all just be like incredibly hateful and like ride the hate wave like the player haters ball yeah and just kind of dovetailing with that on it, uh, as it relates to someone you probably know, uh, maybe, or like someone who, you know, knows, uh, Joe Rogan came out a couple of days ago and I'll just read it word for word from his April 23rd episode. say that if someone's children died from this, I'm very sorry that that happened. I'm not in any way diminishing that, but I'm saying the personal experience that my children had with

COVID was nothing. And then went on to tell people if they're young and healthy not to get vaccinated, which is just anti-scientific. The young are reservoirs for the virus and are powering the spread. So the only way to put the virus down is to immunize. So I want to talk about just like how this interacts with Spotify and just like tech companies in general. The head of Spotify came out and was like, what I will say when someone asks him about this, he's like, well, I won't answer that. That's implied. Will not be answering that.

But what I will say is we have 8 million creators and hundreds of millions of pieces of content. We have a content policy and we do remove pieces that violate it. So essentially backing what he said as like not in violation of their content policies and also like the implication that they are too big to ethically manage their platform uh aka like their you know their publishers of content they're not just a platform where anybody can oh yeah we hear that all the time there's this new facebook article or it's not from facebook it's from a MIT technology review about Facebook's attempt to... They've been telling us they've been working on a more ethical way to manage their algorithms and machine learning. They put together this task force with the people who built their system that is called ethical AI. that is called like ethical ai and it's complete like this so this person spent eight months with the person who's in charge of that who was like the spear tip of machine learning at facebook and like getting their news feed to like basically learn about us make decisions about what uh anybody

uses facebook is going to find most engaging and just pushing it in a more and more outrage focused direction that led to a whole bunch of bad shit. But he is now on the solution team. And she was like, so I spent eight months and it took me in the eighth month, I figured out that they're not doing any of the things they claim to be doing like anytime i raised the central issues that would have allowed them to stop like the genocide that they were instrumental in causing they redirected or delayed the meeting and hud basically sued facebook and was like, your algorithms have become racist in how they're recommending content to people for real estate. And that violates a very specific law. And so they just put all their interest on that. And that's all they will answer questions about. And it's just basically the... I've been at a tech company where they're struggling with the fact that the very thing

that had driven all their profits to that point turns out to be just drastically flawed. But then they don't change anything about the overarching ideals it that like trickle down to the cellular structure they just like allow these people who are supposed to like help solve the problem in and then just like shoot them down one by one and that's like all they know how to do and you know these are really smart people who work for facebook but we keep seeing that being smart doesn't mean you're more likely to get to what the ethical solution is it just allows you to kind of logically insulate quicker right and logically insulate yourself from you know make an argument within your head that allows you to justify the horrifying shit that you're doing. That's why cult members

often test as being more intelligent by a statistically significant margin than the average non-cult joiner, because the smarter you are, the better able you are to argue for whatever you want to believe. So interesting. Yeah. So I just think that like the fact that Facebook has these super smart people at the helm, like is actually standing in the way because they can find a way every day to, you know, like the way that people get promoted, the way people get raises, the way people get bonuses is all based on the central core statistic that Facebook cares about, which is engagement. That's it. And that is shot through everything they try to do, no matter what. And the thing that produces engagement is misinformation.

People are going to be more likely to listen to Joe Rogan say that he has some theories you haven't heard before on the covet 19 vaccine then they are to listen to the thousands of places being like just listen to the fucking cdc like and right they can't solve that they literally like the tech industry will never solve that unless there is like some structural uh you know oversight where like the people like mark zuckerberg is co-leading the company with somebody who is their entire background is like journalism and fact checking and like that they have 50 of a say in who gets promoted who gets paid what they get paid who fired. Like that's literally the only way. And that's just not how things organize themselves. It's like unfixable.

It's like an unfixable problem. What they are precisely profiting off of, they would go out of business if they had actual ethics. Right. I mean, so that was one question I was left with is like whether there's a solution here. Like if we tear it down and turn it into multiple companies like Facebook or Spotify or whatever, they would face the same problem Facebook did when like one of the problems that they outlined in this MIT review article is that Facebook got accused by the conservatives of having an anti-conservative bias. So they altered their internal rules so that a filter couldn't stop conservative news more than liberal news, which made it so that any anti-vaccine filter or any filter that was designed to stop anti-vaxxer shit was useless because that content was almost exclusively coming from

the conservative side and same thing like a lot of the uh you know planning around the storming of the capital happened on facebook and like they can't you know like if you have an inherently like ideologically corrupt thing that is rising up in the country among a significant part of the population, you can't be like, well, that counts too. We have to be fair to them or that's the entire fucking problem. So I don't necessarily know what the solution is, but I do think that it's worth trying something where... I have something. I have an idea. Yeah, let's...

Let's just bring back MySpace. Thank you. Just bring it back. Let's go back to 2007 internet. Right. I wonder if it's the concept of a feed that's really fucking it up. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Because you're so passively can just go to this trough of nonsense with a feed. Infinite scroll has like destroyed everything. Yeah. Like there has to be an end or you just be like, oh, you want to know what's up? Navigate to that person's profile. And that's where the information is. So like, mouth open scrolling. The argument that this article, this reporter for MIT makes after spending the nine months is like every time a solution like that comes up, they just find a way. And it's not just the people within Facebook.

It's the people whose entire livelihood is driven by finding ways to make their information more engaging. And so they find a way around the AI. So it's like any single solution like that, it really needs to be at the central, like this is the central motivation of this company cannot be growth. And that is like what makes Facebook so massive is that they are singularly focused on growth. And another detail that she points out is she's like, this is not the first article that's been that had this exact motive, like of looking into how they're addressing this. Times did one and it ended up being like a really so it says in May of 2019 Facebook granted a series of interviews with to the New York Times which rewarded the company with a humanizing profile of a sensitive well-intentioned executive striving to overcome the technical challenges

of filtering out misinformation and hate speech from a stream of content that amounted to billions of pieces a day um because like new the new york times is just like any of these other publishers that facebook has been on the brink of putting out of business for years like they rely on facebook to a an incredible degree so like you can't that's another way that this is getting deaded like you we know that they enabled a genocide like you'd think that that would be front page news non-stop the fact that they're not doing anything to solve it but then my business can be affected by reporting the news because they control such a large share of eyeballs on their platform that i've actually been rendered inert yes anything

because of this whole fucking setup right yeah but anyways it's it's i i don't have a solution but it seems like the only thing would be like some drastic censuring of facebook to like basically be a completely different company and that's not going to happen without like radical radical change and also fuck joe rogan yeah fuck that guy yeah hey come on man he's he's pretty buff we did we did get some uh somebody who i guess is a listener of both our shows uh or pays attention i guess to people who cover joe rogan was saying that he had talked uh early on in his show about doing like testosterone replacement therapy uh and that might have something to do with why uh yeah he looked

like he fell into a bunch of ooze from ninja turtles like the middle-aged version yeah it's it's i mean kind of all it's kind of impressive he also like for anyone who listens to that show for like the kinds of trippy people he would have on that would say things like you know don't think we're all not the same like we're all individuals and we have to respect that to then apply that to be like yeah well my kid didn't get it so you should use that and apply that to your life because my child didn't have like you don't even you're not even hearing the shit you say. You don't believe it. And it's just become someone's trippy older brother's garage to smoke weed in where you hear weird shit and you get freaked out and leave. Yeah.

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piece where it reads like cnn was it sounds like cnn had to like make good for a bunch of shit to get this access because they're describing the president or the former president like a dude who does shit and is engaged with you know anything uh but i'll just read this first part because they're describing sort of what the vibe is at mar-a-lago and like how he's very busy now uh with his aides quote together they decide which republican candidates he will meet with at his office a converted bridal suite above Mar-a-Lago's 20,000 square foot ballroom, and whether they deserve his support. Often he'll ask for updates on his leadership pack in political operation or spend hours chatting by phone with a cadre of old friends. Oh, my God. I love that his office is in a converted former bridal suite.

Right. is in a converted former bridal suite. Like he's just doing like whatever the fuck he does in the same spot where like bridesmaids were getting like blackout drunk and like trying to like puke before walking down the aisle. Right, right, exactly. As he plays Kingmaker. That's so good.

Overlooking the ballroom, just like watching people. Yeah, I think because it's probably like it needed to be, it has to have double doors and two sets of doors. So once they come in, then there's another area where they come in and you hold them and then we'll build tension. And then you bring them into the main office where I will be having my back turned to them looking out upon my marvelous estate. And they'll be like, oh, you again. Is it Rubio? And that'll be that's the vibe I'm going for.

So funny. The whole thing is like so when you read that, you're like, man, like he's fucking you know doing west wing shit rifling through papers doing walk-in talks fuck that um but they do also point out that this dude will play 27 holes of golf multiple times a week so there is some there is some level of just objective reporting of what's happening um but then the rallies though he quote, recently Trump has initiated discussions about resuming the signature MAGA rallies that fortified his nascent political movement in 2016 and continued

throughout his presidency. Well, he has vowed to travel to Alaska to campaign against Murkowski and is said to be interested in hosting campaign events for some of the candidates he's already endorsed. Aides said the logistics are still being worked out, but he could resume rallies as early as May. Puke.

So, you know, he sees himself as the barometer for the party now, and that's what he's trying to do. And I think the rallies are truly like his one way back to being relevant because Twitter has completely made him vanish. He's also got to move merch. Yeah. Yeah. He hasn't done a big merch push in a while

yeah he's probably like needs the money he found that it's more uh profitable to just threaten his supporters and like weird emails it's like we heard you turned your back on the president asshole i i'm looking at his shop just to see like what kind of because remember like there was there were straws and shit to get people all being like yeah oh you don't like straws try these trump straws he's still selling straws he got maga hats uh then the new yard sign don't blame me i voted for trump great actually i think that shit is genius yeah to walk around hey don't blame me i voted for trump okay um and then like there's a thing called the trump freedom hat that looks like a trucker's come it's just like a golden eagle with stars it's like the most agro american man shit i've ever seen and i hate to bring

truckers into it but yeah uh there isn't that much don't insult truckers come that way yeah truckers have beautiful cum yeah that's some of the best some of the best some of the strongest yeah so it's just all very um overpriced and made in china so yeah he we'll see what he and ultimately i think the people that make merch are like the black dudes who you see at the at the maga rallies who are really hustling those are always my favorite people they're like yo bro it's a grind but i will move all these trump flags to these racist white people and they somehow aren't aware that i'm a person of color selling it to them yeah so we'll keep our eyes and ears tuned to see if he moves i think he's like i think he's most i

think trump is mostly like bored of being like the the mickey mouse character at mar-a-lago that everyone wants to take a picture with like i feel like that can that could only sustain him for so long like right although like can you know like he crashes like every wedding and gives a speech like i've seen the videos it gets like the funniest thing of all time but like that's got to get old after how long has it been like three months four months does it yeah does it right if he's showing up to a wedding and everyone's like ah it's really him and he can just like take the mic for hours and hours like i um it's not a bad life it's not a bad life i if i had

like a whole place dedicated to me i would crash all the weddings and yeah like a little celebrity it's jake lamotta at the end of raging bull and uh de niro's character at the end of casino it's like that that is where a certain type of like criminally toxic narcissism lands you is like that is the solution just it's motherfuckers like motherfuckers that graduated and go back to their high school yes exactly the same energy it's that big big scene big yeah you remember me huh yeah well now i'm 20 and i still live with my mom uh but yeah you remember me remember hey you know that banner hanging up in the gym? That's because of me. All right. Wow. That's so Trump's vibe. He's like a super senior.

Yeah, exactly. And that's all he, he hasn't grown past that. So it's just this really lame version of going back to the football games and walking the track and being like, hey, man. Yeah, I'm back. I got the jacket still fits, huh? What's up, Coach McNabb? It's truly wild how much he has been diminished by being banned from Twitter.

Like, that is, I don't know. That's another thing that just continues to make me interested in, like, because I feel like it's become cool to be like, oh, social media is, like, bullshit. It's not, like, the problem because, because you know people are going to say what they're going to say but like just his their ability to just like ban him and completely change the texture of the fucking country is pretty pretty wild it seems like very small changes to how information spreads is like can have drastic impact and i think yeah i mean also every journalist is just looking at twitter so if like trump's not on it yeah like it's just like not

news yeah yeah yeah that's a good point like yeah journalists are looking at twitter and if he's not there then it's like up to the media matters folks who have to just mainline a bunch of fox news and news max and shit oh shit there he is there he is oh fuck he popped up here and he said some weird shit right um and even then it's like the same old thing which is like yeah joe biden is completely to failure for for uh there to be a healthy version of social media you need like people who like right people from right wing watch like as important as mark zuckerberg all right uh let's talk about another technological impact this one that we're actually coming back from a a long stop down because zoom is fucking us but this is something people are talking about called the zoom effect. Yeah. Wherein we have been looking at our own faces for way too long during this

pandemic. And we've had enough time to all develop a body facial dysmorphia. And there is now a big uptick in cosmetic surgery. Yeah. There's this sort of study or I don't know, the article in the business of fashion. So it's like sort of tracking all kinds of trends, good or bad, sort of around this. And yeah, there is a new survey saying of a thousand women, one in 10 indicated they're more interested in cosmetic surgery. Now, more than they were before the pandemic.

cosmetic surgery now more than they were before the pandemic. And one quarter of respondents who had a procedure in the past said they would like additional work done as it relates to the pandemic. And I think in the beginning, this Zoom effect is really just brought up by like plastic surgeons who are like, I'm seeing a lot of things like early in the lockdown, it was all facial things. So it was like fillers, your wrinkles done eye lift because people were so focused on their own faces in zoom or people just saw themselves a lot more than i think they were used to and then that died off and now because things are evolving with vaccines

there's a secondary wave and the interest is all centered around what they call procedures below the zoom line. So that's like anything with like liposuction or tummy. That's like the new wave. Yeah. That people want to just sort of address like weight gain. Now was the face. Now it's like this post pandemic weight gain. It's all very toxic.

But they all think they're all thinking that part of it too, is that this, because they're still social distancing, the healing process can also be more discreet and you don't have to go out and explain to people like if you were missing from somewhere or whatever. And yeah, so that's what we're dealing with now is this Zoom effect. I mean, this is real. Like I know people who have like gone into plastic surgery like because of the pandemic or like this was the time to do it if they were thinking about doing it already like and they went and got procedures I mean I've been thinking about pumping my face full of Botox I'm ready

for it I think I think it's good I'm pro plastic surgery I'm pro injecting everything you want to inject like I mean I'm pro injecting everything you want to inject. I'm anti feeling bad about yourself. You're pro agency. I get this. I totally

get it. I completely understand it. I also get we're just living in the digital world so much. I would love a procedure to just upload myself into the internet.

I don't need regular life anymore. I figured it out. I don't want a body. I'm down to just be uploaded. Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about that very thing this morning. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Bodies are a real pain in the ass. Who needs them? Yeah. I mean, only for only for 69. Really, that's the only reason I can think of. Yeah. Even then, just change the binary from zeros and ones to sixes and nines. And I'm right. Yes, that's this is that's exactly what I'm talking about. If we can change binary code to sixes and nines, upload my consciousness to Megaphone, Libsyn, iTunes, Spotify, whatever you got to do. Get me out of here. I'm done.

I'm ready. But the other thing, what's interesting is overall, I mean, like the article is weird because they said, so probably like, you know, procedures went down in 2020 overall. It's like, yeah, because it was a lockdown. And for a while we were only only doing absolutely necessary medical procedures. So I don't know. And they don't really mention that. They just say there was a trend. There were 14% less procedures being done.

But the one thing they do point out, the one things that increased over 2019 in terms of procedures were butt and pec implants. Increased, huh? Yeah. So people wanted new butts and people implants. Increased, huh? Yeah. So people wanted new butts and people wanted them swole chests, I guess. Because it wasn't breast augmentation. This is for male pec pectoral implants. Wow. That goes exactly against what I would expect because butt implants,

wouldn't that hurt for a long time when you're sitting? Like all I do is sit. That would kill. Just be able to lay on your stomach. Oh, yeah. I guess so. Lay on your stomach and then you got two cakes behind your head like you're sitting there.

Why waste a butt by sitting on it when you could just be doing like a squat selfie into the mirror? Looking back at it. If I ever got my butt done, I would just be permanently stuck in the squat with the phone behind me

into the mirror selfie pose. That would be what I would look like 24-7. And also, I would get the kind of butt implants too that the cheeks were so big up top that it folds into my lower back. So I could also create a new fold fold to put like pieces

of paper in yeah like a peacock with my butt cheek flaps and stuff a lot of people put their pencil behind their ear i got a whole new solution to that you know it's convenient it's convenient we have the technology we have the technology we have technology. We've got to seize it. Yeah. I also feel like one thing that could be going on is like it's a good time to get the rest involved in recovering. Right. Because you're not around other people. And then also I just feel like I am generally in much worse shape than I've ever been in my life because of the pandemic. I'm assuming it's because of the pandemic.

Could also be because I'm 40 now and old. But that, I don't know. I feel like maybe people are just in, like, I don't necessarily buy that it's fully Zoom based. I don't either. I think, like, people are thinking about their lives. They're, like, reflecting on themselves. They have more free time to just, like, think. based i don't either i think like people are thinking about their lives they're like reflecting on themselves they are have more free time to just like think and i'm i've come to this conclusion in the pandemic that one of the most important things i care about is being hot and i don't think i'm alone in that i think being hot is fun and that's why it's a priority for me there you go above almost

anything else is i wear the color yellow and i try to be hot and it makes life better and you simplified it too you're not trying to tick all these boxes you're like okay i wake up wear yellow be hot done done then i can go to bed i don't have anything else I need to do that day. Up at 6am? In bed by 7am. I'm done. I'm done. Those are the only two things that matter to me. On my grind. I think it's like, I think, you know, when I say like

being hot, I think like you don't need like any, you know, medical intervention necessarily. Beyond check, beyond peck and butt implants. Of of course the obvious ones we all need to be getting which are peck and butt but like yeah i get it i totally get this i don't think it has anything to do with zoom and i think it has everything to do with like everyone's horny and wants to be hot and 69ing by june 9th and like for some people that means getting some

juvederm getting some eyebrow threads. Look, if you're in like the beauty of 69ing, you're focused. You know what I mean? You don't have time to really look at all this other stuff. You know, you got to have your head in the game. So you don't necessarily have to look your hottest. You know, just have your mouth. Just get those exercises done.

Yeah. Do you guys do the Zoom thing to improve my appearance, touch up my appearance filter on Zoom? No, I've not. Do you know? You know about it though, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I also heard about it because Jack was talking about doing meetings with somebody. He suspected of always darkening their eyebrows on Zoom. Oh, yeah. That's a thing. It wasn't suspecting. He, at one point, turned and his eyebrows didn't turn with him. I love that. I love that.

Yeah, I do think like maybe that would be the thing because it's like if you're so used to your touched up appearance and then you look in the mirror and you're like, oh, like I need a filter for real life. What sort of? There is, we can give ourselves filters in the form of injectables. It's very easy.

Yeah. I think at the end of the day, go outside for a little bit. Get used to the world again. And then if you feel like your digital form that is haunting you, you still want to bring that into real life, then do that. But shit. I know there is such a – like you're saying, you do get to bring that into real life, you know, then do that. But shit, I know like there is such a, it true, like you're saying, like you do get stuck in this idea of digital life because it's, it's having to replace traditional physical proximity. So now

we're used to working over zoom and putting our thoughts out there through the social media or whatever. And that's how we communicate. But it's like, I think part of that too, is really trying to begin to ease yourself back out of that, of having to normalize that and remembering like you're in your body too. And not just like whatever the video clip is of you being reflected back to you in your phone. Or the opposite plan,

which is just fully be online and never come back. Never come back. Give yourself over, baby. It's time. Let's all join the cloud. It's fun up here. This is the real me. me what you guys are seeing if you saw me in person like that's not me this is no this is it that's my physical body my physical body is 69ing my consciousness is now on the internet oh my god i want that life it's like Matrix, but all the battery pods are just couples 60-90.

Exactly. Oh, my God. Incredible. Does the Zoom article mention the looming 69 at the end of the tunnel? No, it doesn't. No. Because they're ignorant. I mean, yeah.

They don't get it. We're truth seekers like Joe Rogan. You know what I mean? We understand what's coming. Kate, it has been such a pleasure having you on Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah, this was a blast. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? I'm everywhere at Kate Raft.

And I have a Twitch talk show every morning at 7 a.m. Pacific, twitch.tv slash jackam. I also do a podcast about celebrities called Hot and Rich, which is everywhere you can get podcasts. Yeah, yeah. And I also do another podcast called This Podcast is Self-Care. And that's it. Those are my plugs. There you go. What is like on the Hot and Rich podcast?

What's like one of your favorite episodes that you guys have done? I mean, I recently did a breakdown about why I think the Kardashians are poor and they're running out of money and there's a whole scam going on. It's all about to collapse at any second. So any of those episodes, you should check those out. Nice. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I have no idea who this is, but it's this Instagram account called Affirmations with three F's. So it's like Affirmations. And they just make

weird memes of affirmations and it honestly is like it's everything. I love it. I am not lying in bed all day. It's like a picture of a minion saying I'm not lying in bed all day. It's like a picture of a minion saying, I'm not lying in bed all day.

I look at these every morning. I fucking love it. I am extremely beautiful today. Was that someone from Frozen? I think so. I think it's like some Disney princess. It's just great. I love this weird affirmations Instagram account.

I just like the minion just declaring like, I am not lying in bed all day. Like, yeah, fuck it. The minion can do it. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. Also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance.

And maybe we just have to change this to 69 day fiance and just watch the whole fucking tone explode it could be a good it could be a good branding opportunity just some ab testing just some 69 testing real quick there's some tweets that i like first i just want to shout out cody ziggler because just, you know, he's been working on the Spider-Man, new Spider-Man, Miles Morales comics. His first issue is out today. So please check out Cody Ziegler. Yeah, he wrote a fucking Spider-Man comic. Okay.

So check this man's workout. Fantastic. You know, friend of the show. And some tweets that I like. First one's from Dana Donnelly at Dana Donnelly, D-O-N-L-Y. She's tweeted, i'm in a group text with my mom and her tax lady and i use too many exclamation points and her tax lady sent my mom a separate text asking if i am quote using cocaine you never know you never know with all

the maximization points um another one at duelingueling Axis, tweeted, me, my writing is so bad. Disney, somehow Palpatine returned. Me, my writing is pretty good, actually. It's a good thing to keep in mind. Another one is from Bob, which is at Bob, because the whole vibe is just old man tweets. At Bob tweeted, just ate an ice cream sandwich in 20 seconds while holding the freezer door open so my kids couldn't see what I was doing. I almost

did that one, but that hits way too close to home, man. Hiding my junk food intake from my kids. Oh, wait. Is that to not inspire curiosity to then have to share with them or explain to them? A little bit of both, Miles. A little bit of both. Don't want to

model that behavior to them. Also, deep shame that I'm just housing an entire pint of ice cream. Damn. Standing up with the freezer door open? Yeah. Or over the sink. Yeah. Things are good, though. That's responsible. Yeah. I mean, a pint

over the sink, at least you're being careful about the drip and shit like that so yeah it doesn't help it's all over the place man hey look man i tried to make you feel good about it that's all you sorry man that's nothing nothing's getting me out of this one sorry yeah a couple tweets I enjoyed. Chris Laker, at Chris Laker, must be part of the family that owned the Lakers. There are two Rogans within you and you decide to either feed the Seth or the Joe. And then Emma Roller retweeted an article that said, people who ate French fries or hash browns two to three times a week were more likely to die early, according to one study.

And she asked, how many fries do I need to eat to die immediately? I like that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the

information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles what is your recommendation for today? Oh man I just want to I was just singing something as I was cleaning my house I was thinking of the album

Yardcore by the Bourne's Americans. And the specific track, Send My Love. So I want to go out by Send My Love from Bourne's Americans. And if you know this song, I send you my love with a dozen roses. Make sure that you knows it. This shit will bring. I thought I was in fucking middle school again. So I'm taking you'all back with me

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