The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump The Slumlord Billionaire, Buzzfeed-ification Of News 4.9.18

Episode Date: April 10, 2018

In episode 122, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Laci Mosley to discuss the Trump Tower fire, Long Island Medium Theresa Caputo getting a divorce, what to do when a man you gave your kidney to wants to break up, a new study that shows male students over-estimate their intelligence compared to women, credit cards no longer requiring signatures, alt-right news sites like Daily Stormer and Storm Front needing money, Fox still taking a hit from Lauren Ingraham's comment, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, it's a great, amazing, beautiful thing. There's moms in all industries, very high-stress industries that have kids all across this world. Why can't it be music as well? Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 26, Episode 1 of Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For April 9th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien can show you the world. Oh. Shining, shimmering, splendid

I'm just going to do the whole song. Excuse me for a moment. Don't you dare close your eyes. That was Karsiev, a.k.a. God Chapman Rice. Every time I sing, super producer Anna Hosnier puts her head in her hands, like physically.

And tears start pouring out from between her fingers. Right. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I got miles on it. Got that Zayt gang at my back. I got miles on it. Doing the daily Zayt gays with Jack.

Oh, that's a Looney's reference, and you're right. Gray Black, at Black of all grays. I love your Twitter handle. But yes, that's a Looney's reference. That's how we get down. And I just charged up off another cold brew because the fans demanded it. Whoa. Hey, we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious and brilliant Lacey Mosley.

Hey. Hey. What's up, guys? I and brilliant Lacey Mosley. Hey. Hey. What's up, guys? I don't have an AKA today. Damn. You don't need one. You don't need one. I want one so bad.

Because I can't come through with an AKA for Lacey Mosley. Lamo. Lamo? Yeah. Damn. You're coming at me hard-biting today, Jay. I know. I also mispronounced you.

You called me lazy earlier. Lazy Mosley. Lazy Mosley. I am, but the people don't need to know. You're lazy most of the time. Yes. There we go. All right. Cool. Lazy Mosley. I am, but the people don't need to know. You're lazy most of the time. Yes. There we go. All right, cool.

Lazy. Settled. Done. What are some things from your search history that are revealing about who you are? So my search history lately has been very random. Mostly I've been searching for shit to have petty arguments online. I looked up the Dow Jones, but I wasn't actually looking to see the Dow that day. I just wanted to make sure I was about to use it correctly in a reference um that it wasn't a rapper

yeah no because I was about to play somebody who was talking about Cardi B like being a bad representation for black women or something and I was like look if people wanted to buy dick as much as they wanted to buy a pussy dick would be on dow jones like and i just need to make sure that that was accurate uh for my clap back and it would be it was and did that person take a seat after you hit him with that i saw some of that over the weekend people being like yeah uh cardi b is like not the intellectual equivalent of her fiance and it was like what dude she's like one of the smartest people in the public eye and like how do you think you get that rich you don't get rich like that from being stupid yeah wait so

they're saying that she's too advanced for offset no no he's too advanced for her was the implication which maybe i was so fucked up vibes no i couldn't even process that as being something someone would say i mean look i saw somebody clapping back at somebody for saying that. So, I don't know. Yes. Look, you know what? Let them find love. They're young.

They'll realize what they've done soon enough. Lord Jesus. What? God bless that baby. Lacey, what is something that is underrated? Underrated, Dream Doll. Another lovely ratchet rapper that I'm like now obsessed with. Have you heard the song Talk To Me Nice?

Oh, yeah. Talk To Me Nice. Talk Me Nice? Oh yeah, Talk To Me Nice. Talk To Me Nice. Yeah, Talk To Me Nice. Everything nice. Oh, see, I just know that as Talk To Me Nice. See, yes. Dream Dawn needs her props. What's her other tracks?

Oh, I can't think of any right now. Like I can't think of the names, but she's got some fire little bang. Like it's just like ratchet bops. I'm so happy for all the little ratchet bop rappers who are coming up, especially women, because in the hip-hop industry have had it like if they metooed hip-hop we wouldn't be able to listen to nothing like we'd be like damn i'll be listening to mc light seriously that's it we'd all be listening to queen latifah on repeat

i mean shit who knows and that shit could touch everybody in hip-hop yeah we hop's so bad, but we don't talk about it because that's our business. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Don't worry about the problematic vernacular being used. Yeah, we'll get it together. Drake would still be around, right? We all heard his latest song. He's woke.

Nice for what? So great. I'm about to be mean as hell all summer. I know. Summer 18. Get ready. So excited. Between him and Cardi B, don't tell me shit.

But yeah, I think she's so underrated. I want her to get more. I want her to get her juice. She's very ratchet and ridiculous. Dream doll, all one word. Yeah. Does she have the same sort of likability as Cardi off the stage? No, she's a bitch.

Oh, okay. She's mean. Cardi's so sweet. And just like, I feel like everywhere Cardi goes, it's like, they said that she reminds them of like women in the Kanye's workout plan video. Like, after I got a Kanye's workout plan, I got a double wide and I'm rolling the plane. Roll the plane.

Roll the plane. That's like Cardi B everywhere she goes. It's like, oh my God, thank you. Thank you. No, this girl is mean. I got tunes and wheels on my Cavalier. Yeah, exactly. But nice for what?

She doesn't need to be nice. What's something that's overrated? Streaming platforms. Whoa, whoa. What do you mean? Tell me something. I'm so over it. I'm so over the amount of content that exists.

And as an actor, I feel like this is a terrible thing to say. But shit, it's just too much. Everybody's coming out with a streaming platform. AT&T has one now. Oh, you're just saying the fact that everybody got a streaming. I thought you were like, streaming platforms are played. played go back to using CDs we don't need Spotify okay I got you I got you I listen to bird calls I get my news um they trying to hoodwink me and I don't appreciate trying to be like I don't appreciate people trying to scam me like okay well come on say some names

because clearly somebody hit you with a hey for $ for $5.99, you should join our platform, and you were like, no. Well, listen, I'm a working actor, so I ain't about to date nobody specifically. All right, so we'll do it for you. Disney's starting one. AT&T has one. What's AT&T's? AT&T has one, because they have that show, Mr. Mercedes. I think

it's like true DirecTV. Oh, right, but that's your DirecTV. Yeah, but it's like on the AT&T platform, which, enough. Which, bruh, for real. And it's like on the AT&T platform, which enough. Which, bruh, for real. And it's annoying because I think that we all kind of turn to streaming platforms, especially as millennials, because we were sick of paying for cable and not necessarily enjoying everything that was being put out. This was a way to kind of streamline and be more specific, which you want to watch.

But I don't edit these shits up. And we climbing over that $80 that cable costs. Right. And we don't have that fun. I don't live tweet as much as I used to. I used to live tweet so much. Right. And it was so fun and such a cool way to connect with people.

And now, like, everyone's watching shit at different times. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah, and there's no such thing as spoilers. I also want to say that. All you people talking about spoilers need to kick rocks. If you don't watch something on time, that's your fault. Oh, wow. Okay. Need to kick rocks. If you don't watch something on time, that's your fault.

Do you get into the live events? Did you watch Jesus Christ Superstar and live tweet that? I was busy. You were too busy for the Lord? The Lord John Legend. Okay. I was at church on Easter. I was at Heathen Service, which

starts at like 2 o'clock wow so that's what you were busy with because you can go to the club and then you can still go turn up with the Lord right it was weird though

because I go to one church and he wasn't there it's very Hollywood it's a little too Hollywood I might have to leave the church you're at? yes the Lord wasn't there?

he might not have been to be honest but the Lord he got Hollywood he came in on a hoverboard with a Gucci baseball hat our pastor wasn't there our lord wasn't there or he might not have been uh to be honest but the lord he got hollywood he came in on a hoverboard with our pastor wasn't there our pastor wasn't there on easter sunday and it was packed wait so what did you just we watched a telecast of him in colorado and it was the weirdest thing i'm like a southern baptist so i'm like you know you gotta get a church to start stomping and sweating and turning up. And to have your pastor be on TV and like you sitting.

It's sort of like the equivalent of phoning it in basically. No, you really phoned in Easter service. Okay. Well, damn. Of all services. Hey, look, we got to get those checks however we got to, you know. Listen, I'm sorry. Let me not trash one church.

I'm going to get drugged because at one church we have love. I'm not going to call it a cult because it's not, but it's a strong love. Hey, don't use the C word on this. Is it Justin Bieber's church? What? Is it Justin Bieber's church? No. He goes out with that cool pastor.

Right. Cool pastor. Where's the shorts? And the super tall tees. That's the most Hollywood of all churches. Yeah. All right. And finally, we like to ask our guest, what is a myth?

What is something that people think is true that you know to be false? Well, I've come on here a few times and I was like, man, am I stupid? Because I feel like all of my expertise I've like really drug out. But I was reading yesterday about people dying from asthma and like curable like diseases that I didn't know people were still dying from. Or I think a lot of people don't know that people are still dying from because they're poor uh oh just without access to medical care yeah like getting intubation because you have asthma is wild right in 2018 but it's happening like 3.2 million people lost their health care between 2017 and 2016 right and it i don't think people realize how dangerous it is not to have healthcare.

Because it means like when something happens, you're just like, ah, we're going to ride it out. Yeah, right. We'll see how those go. Man, that is not a good healthcare strategy. I just need to get my head straight.

I think it's just fear-based. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it was just real to find out that, you know, over 45,000 people die a year just because they don't have healthcare insurance.

Right, yeah, from the pure fact of lack of access access the fact that it's just not sexy to talk about you know people dying of heart disease and asthma and stuff like that but yeah people just hear income inequality and they're like picture you know somebody who has to live off of food stamps or something and it's like no it's a life or death thing. People die because they don't have enough in their country. I think people assume they just go to the hospital and then the taxpayers pay for it, which is true. But they don't go to the hospital when it's curable. They go when it's like, oh, I'm going to die. They're like, oh, my asthma is real bad.

I'm not tripping about my asthma. And then, yeah, worsens. All right, let's get into the stories of the day. worsens. All right, let's get into the stories of the day. Over the weekend, we had a fire in New York City, which was national news because it was in Trump Tower. And yep, we once again get a metaphor that we'd all call hacky if we saw it in a movie, but it's happening in reality. So it's just like another news story. And, you know, this was getting coverage for a couple reasons. A guy died, which is a shame.

He's a wealthy art collector, and his name was Todd Brassner, and he was on a floor that didn't have fire sprinklers, which you would think would be mandatory these days. And apparently it is in any new building that was built after like the 90s, late 90s in New York City after a couple of fires killed a bunch of people. They were like, OK, we will make

sprinklers. We might need those sprinklers. But landlords and developers like Donald Trump and including Donald Trump lobbied against sprinklers as being unnecessary and which translates to expensive for him. And he, through spending and hassling, got them to make it so that it was only required to add sprinklers into buildings that were built going forward. We should never totally normalize the fact that we have this cartoon landlord villain as the president. It's easy to just forget that this dude is a bad guy. Mr. Cutting Corners.

Basically, this guy, this 67-year-old dude who lost his life. A lot of the news is kind of portraying it, too, of that there is added tragedy because this man was trying to move out of Trump Tower, but because it was in Trump Tower, nobody wanted to buy it or whatever, which is, yeah, sure, I get that it must have sucked to have been stuck with that building, especially as security increased. And it's like, I'm walking into a weird building now, people demonstrating, or there's armed police or whatever.

But at the end, it's crazy to know that this is all born out of the idea of it just being simply the money wasn't there, or he didn't want to spend the money. Trump didn't want to to make the building safe. Just totally fucking avoidable. I don't know. It's weird. It's one of those stories, too. We were talking before.

It's like, yes, this is a fucked up story. A fucking person who is living in Trump Tower died in a completely avoidable way simply because of this person's greed as a developer of not wanting to build in these added security measures. Right. So I think that sort of mentality is obviously bleeding into every level of our government now. I just hope that people can start to realize how government policy actually does affect your life and can kill you. actually does affect your life and can kill you. And I feel like that's something that most of the country is like, oh, we let them lawmakers go in there and clap the gavels and write the papers and it don't affect us. And it's like, no, it does.

It can kill you. Like, decisions made by the government can and will kill you. Yeah. Well, that's, again, why, you know, people talk about, oh, regulations is a bad word. Right. This is the kind of shit that you need basic safety standards so someone has at least some form of fire, some kind of sprinkler system to combat the fire that breaks out.

These are the sorts of things that government regulations are a bad word. It's not a cool thing to talk about in most of America, but also especially in Fox about in most of America, but also especially in like Fox News America and Trump America, they think that all government is bad. So if the government is doing it, it should not be happening. Right. And the people who are applauding regulations being taken down are assholes who are like, see, now we don't have to spend that extra 70K to put in the sprinkler system and we

can save that, blah, blah, blah. Right. And privatize it. Yeah. That's the kind of fucking regulation. It's like, come on, man. blah, blah. Right, and privatize it. Yeah, that's the kind of fucking regular, just like, come on, man. And that would have made jobs for y'all. Yeah, exactly. Private firemen.

Right, exactly. Private firemen. Only the rich can have their fires put out. I mean, think about how much money you can make. But yeah, in addition to that sort of thinking bleeding into our national government now, it apparently, you know, he didn't just make it so that Trump Tower didn't need to add sprinklers. It's all residential buildings

in New York City. And, you know, some experts were talking about on yesterday's Sunday shows that the buildings in New York are basically fire traps because of this legislation, because they don't have sprinklers and fire engine ladders only go to something like the 19th floor. And that's nothing in New York. Most buildings are above 19 stories tall. So, yeah, it's not great. It's a good thing he was discriminating against the blacks. We won't be dying in those fires.

We couldn't move it. All right, and then there are a couple stories, Lacey, He was discriminating against the blacks. We won't be dying in those fires. There you go. We couldn't move in. Right. All right. And then there are a couple stories, Lacey, that you wanted to sort of get petty on. Oh, yes. Just some small petty things. Your favorite pastime. Yes, it is.

Welcome to Petty Coat Junction. Long Island medium, Teresa Caputo. But she is getting a divorce after 28 years of marriage. And honestly, I was just like, damn, why she ain't see this coming? You ain't know this is going to happen. There you go. Who knows? Do we know anything?

Was the husband on the show? I think vaguely he was on the show. The show's been on for like 11 years. And I guess she had blown up as celebrity and he kind of was jealous and she wasn't spending much time with him and just like trash like that but I'm like if you've been together 28 years why not just have a rocky few like a rocky three or four and try to work it out you know what let me not that's their business but I just thought that it was real fun because I was like girl you're supposed to be seeing the future yeah unless she saw and she just knew and this is how it needs to end that That's how she's probably telling people

next time she has to do like a reading. They're like, I'm a little concerned, Teresa, that you didn't see your own marriage falling apart. How do you... But you go talk

to my dead granny. Yeah, how am I going to trust you? Well, you see, I knew that was going to happen, child. And I had to let reality take its course.

She's definitely going to have to remix it for sure. And then I also was just reading, there was an article floating around, like a think piece about a guy who got a kidney from his girlfriend and now he wants to break up with her, but he feels like he can't because he got this kidney.

Wait, so the think piece was written by the guy? Yeah. Wow. What an idiot. Interesting. Hopefully that was written so anonymously. Yeah, it was pretty anonymous, but it was like, you know, I feel so torn, we it was pretty anonymous but it was like you

know i feel so torn we're growing apart but it's like this person did so much for me and i'll be like you know what it's totally fine if i give you my kidney and we break up but you're gonna give me the kidney back yeah like before you leave like i got a little tub of ice set up just drop it in there with the key like like what see that's why you can't give nothing. Listen, ladies. Give them some knowledge. Ain't no love. Kidney strong.

Yeah, right? That's a fucked up place to be in. Because, yeah, I can see, you know, what do you do, right? Because I'm sure at the time when this woman gave her kidney up, that things were probably going well. Yeah. And it made sense. You're in love. You have to be very deep in love

to let a hospital get involved. Yeah. Exactly. That's so love that I have never experienced. I love that this story's coming to us from the man's perspective. Yeah. Being like,

think about it from my perspective, man. This sucks. Yeah. We're growing apart. Growing apart, dude. Like, what do we even talk about anymore? She's always like, why are you coming home all late?

Right. And I'm like, dude, my fucking kidney, man. It's like, I'll move slower now. How long has he had the kidney? Like what do we even talk about anymore She's always like why are you coming home all late And I'm like dude My fucking kidney man It's like I'll move slower now How long has he had the kidney He's had it for I think two years That's not enough time for him not to have seen

That things were I don't know I feel like he probably I don't know just put yourself in a bad I mean not it's a bad situation but yeah like Breaking up is not that simple When someone has given up a fucking organ to save your life. But also at the same time, like you're allowed to not, you know, change your mind. Yeah, for sure.

But it was I don't know. It's just it doesn't sit well with me. I think you shouldn't do it. I think you shouldn't give your like even if you're married, don't give your organs to your spouse. And if you lose a kidney that you're compromised right from that point on it's not just like you have a spare like you now you have one less kidney to rely on it makes it so that it does change there are different things that you are not supposed to do because you only have one kidney yeah see if this dude was dating my ex-girlfriend

from college she would have cut the shit out of his body because i remember let me just tell a quick so i'm gonna air you out okay i'm not gonna say your name because you're doing well but let me tell you everybody something so i got a tv for my birthday and it was this was back when hd tvs just came out this is how old i am so mad yes i'm very mad and she got it and she's like this is for your birthday i said thank you so much and i said this is how crazy i am i said even if we break up like this isn't just because we live together saying here's a tv for you that's why she took that because I had to make sure because I felt that this was an insincere gift I thought it was the kind of shit that was like was gonna live in the house and I'm gonna call it a gift to you but really this benefits us but it's trying to be like no this is for you you wanted this this is for you

and I was even like this is really I said and it was joking i was like this is really for me yes this is your gift jokes got a little truth to it yeah and then i said oh i said i said wow even like this is my this is my property even if anything goes wrong this part she goes yes yes of course cut to a few months later when we broke up and i come back my roommate was like hey i think your tv's gone i said you think my tv is gone or you're looking at this shit is gone fucking tell me you think it's gone you're looking and it is you have the kind of roommate who he texts you if your house was on fire oh yeah he didn't want to break it to me raw like that and that's why i press him on the phone i said is it gone tv then he's like yeah it's gone wait so he let her in she had a key oh she had a key because we were living together and i was you know anyway look that's a whole other

story that's called miles of personal tragedies that's a whole other story. That's called Miles' Personal Tragedies. That's a new podcast coming out to you on the HowStuffWorks Network. But even something as small as a TV over a kidney, I'm still like both. I just think that if you're dating somebody, give your kidneys to your family members. Because your mama always going to be your mama. That's true. But don't give your kidney to your bae. That's not, that's too big.

Kidneys seem like they're different from other organs which tend to be like donor lists and sort of randomly or ascribed by whatever rules hospitals use to ascribe things like kidneys are like personal gifts yeah selena gomez's friend gave her a kidney like are they so homies i hope so they are i don't think that that'll they're girlfriends i feel like that's also a harder bond to break up, especially if you give a kidney. But relationships go sour all the time. Yeah. It's a no for me. Guys, when you're listening out there, ladies, don't.

Now, if he want to give you a kidney, oh, take that queen. Take that kidney, okay? Right. That is yours. That is your kidney, okay? That's been your kidney. As my mother always said, my money is my money and your money is our money. So your kidney is our kidney. My kidney, my kidney. Your mother always said, my money is my money and your money is our money. So your kidney is our kidney.

My kidney, my kidney. Your mother always said that? Yes, she did. I can see that being a dangerous gift to accept from somebody. Because they're going to. Not only are there strings attached, there are arteries and veins. Everything's attached. Exactly.

I'm thinking from Selena Gomez's side like her friend was like this is a no brainer now I'm like her friend forever no matter what and she's a working actress the girl she's been working

yeah she was on the Secret Life of a Teenager and now she's on Grown-ish oh yeah she gonna stay working now Selena gonna make sure them chicks come and eat I hope so but then I don't wanna paint

the friend even if it was out of friendship she's sweet I'm not even going to she's probably a she's obviously a wonderful person no we're joking. These are jokes, guys.

She was doing a personal game. Or that peak scammer. You know what I mean? It's like, y'all not about this scam. Like, I gave her fucking three organs. Which she had done it

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And we're back. Miles is weeping. She took the TV though, bro. I just got Gears of War. Dredged up a lot, man. Just got the 360 too with HD. We did regression therapy. He's now in the year 2000.

Yeah, and past life therapy where I was also someone in the middle ages who had their mule taken from a common wench. So we do want to talk about a story, a study that just came out that male students vastly overestimate their intelligence when compared to female students. No. Shocker. Which is not the most counterintuitive thing you've ever heard.

Bro, but what if you are just smarter than everybody? Right. So a male student with an average grade, for example, was predicted to see himself as smarter than 66% of his class, whereas a female student with the same grade was expected to see herself as smarter than only 54% of her class. So we all think we're smarter than only 54% of her class. So we all think we're smarter than we actually are.

But men, it's vastly overestimated. I don't know. Did you ever grow up in an Asian house? Because I'll get A's and my mom was like, you think you're smart? Right. You get a 99, they'd be like, what happened to the one point? Exactly. So it's funny because I have an almost different relationship with grades where I was always operating from a place of lack.

Right. Where I was like, I have to prove myself. I'm not smarter than everybody. Right. So, yes, thank you, everybody. I'm the most woke man on earth. But I do think that, yeah, we have talked about the Dunning-Kruger effect and the fact that people who don't know all that much are the ones who are most likely to overestimate themselves. don't know all that much are the ones who are most likely to overestimate themselves. And people who know a lot are the most likely to accurately or underestimate themselves. Yeah. But I just think it's interesting that men, so there's this huge gap in the stems.

More men get STEM degrees, science, technology. Engineering. Engineering and mathematics. And more men get STEM degrees, more men go into STEM fields. Yeah. So women fill 47% of all US jobs. This is in 2015, but they hold only 24% of STEM jobs because there's just this gap. And we saw this when there was that Googler who got fired from Google for posting a letter where he was like, men are just better

at engineering than women. Like, what can I say? This is one of those things that people actually believe in. You'd be surprised how many men actually believe like men are just have better minds for math. Like the president of fucking Harvard basically said something to that effect not too long ago.

You don't deserve to be anywhere near Harvard, bro. Right. He got in a lot of trouble for it, but he was like, we have to acknowledge that there are differences between male and female minds. And black people have extra muscle in their hamstrings. That's why they're jumping

so high. That's the slippery slope. And I've just witnessed this personally, my wife being a doctor. It's just crazy, the unspoken sexism in that field. I've gone into doctor's

appointments where the doctor will talk to me about her when she has to me about her. Like when she has something wrong with her. Like, wait, why are you taking her to her doctor's appointment? I was just with her. OK, I thought. Oh, for the child when you're having a child. No, no, no.

We were. She was there at the doctor's appointment. I was just with her. It was like a weird. That's nice. I don't know. That's nice. In my mind.

What the fuck are you doing? In my mind, I'm painting it. In my mind, I'm painting a thing. In my mind, I'm painting this super misogynistic problematic husband where he's like, okay,

you want to go to the doctor? Okay, I'm going to go with you. No, he's a doctor. She wasn't feeling good. I know. I don't know about

healthy relationships as we've already seen. What are you doing, a spinal? The doctor knew that he's going to tell you to leave me. She was a doctor

and yet still told me like the right right right like you're buying a fucking car or something right yeah exactly thing with the dually is man the horsepower you're getting out of this thing now lady while your wife is there i know i know i might as well speaking chinese to you little lady but hey you get it right sir this this cummins turbo diesel. Exactly. You're going to want that. There was a scene in Mad Men where they talked to January Jones's husband about her cancer diagnosis while she's just like sitting there. And that shit still happens. Right. And like it just seems like it's more embedded in people's minds than we realize.

And it's just so predictable that undergraduate men would just have this sort of inbuilt overconfidence. Right. And are they saying that's sort of contributing to an atmosphere that like where women are probably at a sort of fork in the road to choose a STEM career, STEM academic path? And they're just kind of like, fuck, if I'm dealing with this shit, then no. Well, so what they're saying, and this has been true my experience is that women internalize these sort of beliefs like women are less likely to raise their hands in the class because uh i think they are saying that the instructors are more likely to be men but even if it's women it's a long-term thing it's a thing where you know even women who come up in the stem field are indoctrinated with this idea that like men run shit yeah well that's true the tech world is still the last sort

of well not for last frontier but one of the remaining frontiers where it's like super fucked up lopsided yeah right i think that studies like this it's great to shed light but i feel like sometimes in the way that we strive for equality of the sexes or even the races, it might not be the most effective. It's weird to try to tell people who are arrogant to come down and realize, oh, you're not that great. I think it might be

easier for us to just all come up to that place. I remember when I was a kid, my grandma used to tell me that only black people were good at things. And I believed this for so long. Actually, until I heard Christina Aguilera sing because I was like, great, is she not black? But what that gave me was this. And she was like, she cheating.

Right? She probably is. But what that gave me was an ethnocentricity that gave me confidence, especially as a darker skinned black woman where I have to deal with the bullshit within my own race. But it made me feel like I'm supposed to be here. I should be taking up space. I feel like we as women have to get more like, you know,

maybe we should be man spreading too instead of asking the man to stop spreading. You just move your thighs out a little more too. Like, take up a little more space. Right, right.

Well then I think that's what this article is you just distill it down to. Men are fucking dumb and they think they're smarter than they are. So don't worry. So don't worry. Like raise your talk and talk over them right yeah probably step on their words yeah like seriously it might be easier than like hey guys could y'all be considerate yeah could you be more realistic about how dumb you are uh yeah honest with yourself about your

ability sir i mean i think their uh main takeaway is that they need more women in STEM fields and they need to actually do more structural things to encourage women to go into these fields. Because men make you miserable sometimes in those kinds of male-dominated atmospheres. I mean, I did stand up for forever and it starts to become very taxing on your soul to constantly have to deal with harassment

and men talking to you crazy. Right. And like, yeah. And it can make you want to leave. Right. For sure. So I can understand why women are like, if I'm already in this expertise, like, I don't

necessarily have to do this with my education. I can still make money and avoid men. Right. Men in stand up are specifically like, just talk down to you or like, assume that you're not as funny. Oh, yeah. They'll be like, oh, you need to be as funny as you are cute or like assume that you're not as funny? Oh yeah, they'll be like, oh, you need to be as funny as you are cute

or like crazy shit like that. Yeah, to my face and think they're being nice to me. Is he like a 60s talent agent? Think it's a compliment. Because you remember like stand-up is still one of those fields that goes down mostly

in dark, weird bars. Right, right, right. So it's like, it's a rodeo. That's why when shit came out about like Louis C.K. and whoever else, it's like, yeah, they're stand-up guys. What do you mean?

Every stand-up guy is showing you their dick. It's the norm. Their office is a murky, dark room. It is, yeah. And the middle of the night. But yeah, so I completely understand fields that would drive you out of them. Right. Yeah.

So it's probably not just the STEM fields either. But I think this is indicative of a little broader. But the tech industry is bad. Yeah. The tech industry is especially bad, especially for being located in a town that prides itself on wokeness, San Francisco. And it's pretty rough up there. All right. And then one other thing that I wanted to talk about real quick is this news alert that credit card companies are now just admitting that we don't need to sign bills, that signing bills doesn't do anything. Oh, so when you get the receipt after the merchant copy, customer copy, sign here, you don't have to sign anymore. Apparently, credit card vendors are basically acknowledging that that doesn't do anything.

It doesn't prevent fraud and never has, which is something that I always suspected, but I assumed they had some other reason for that existing. Is it not for the merchant? I thought it was more a protection on the merchant of like look we didn't type this in someone signed it that way the credit card companies don't come after them for the fraud right right because it would make sense the credit card companies be like yeah we don't need y'all to sign no more so we can start getting these merchants to charge back right i never signed the back of my credit card because i was just philosophically opposed to it

i was raised with a myth of sort of like you don't sign the back because that credit card because I was just philosophically opposed to it. I was raised with a myth of sort of like, yo, don't sign the back because that's how they steal your signature. Oh, God. And that's how they're going to know how to sign your shit like you if they ever get your credit card. Because I think that was an era in which people were still using the carbon paper credit card slips and just like, and then you filling out the receipt like that. I guess it makes sense because whenever I get to like an electronic key where you slide your card and then it'll be like, sign here.

That's where you especially see it. I literally do a circle or a line because I've never been someone to be like, excuse me, can I see your signature, sir? Right. Really? I've never seen anybody match a signature. Oh, I really try to. They do at the bank. I got into a fight at my bank.

At the bank, for sure. Because they're like, you don't sign anything the same ever. I was like, do people sign their signature the same way every single time I mean I always put a star in the middle because I'm extra

oh you do yeah Lacey Star Mosley I was like this is here y'all go because I'm gonna be signing these for y'all

did you dot the I with a star is that how you do it no so I put it's like Lacey and then the Mosley and then I take the Y at the end

and circle it back to the middle and make a star oh shit that's probably very tough did you take a class for that no it's not cute I have horrible hair And then I take the Y at the end and circle it back to the middle and make a star. Oh, shit. Did you take a class for that? No, it's not cute. I have horrible hair. I have the handwriting of a serial killer.

Like, it's so bad. And it changes. So then the bank's always like, this is not you. And I was like, this is me. Bitch, look at me in my eye. Right. And tell me this is not me. But they made me sign several times once.

I had to go in the bank and spend an hour there just signing over and over again. Wow. Because they were like, none of these are the same. We've also brought in a forensic handwriting analyst to make sure this is you. Yeah, and Super Producer Nick Stumpf was saying he has the same problem. His signature doesn't end up being the same

and that got him in trouble in Mexico where he went down there with nothing but traveler's checks and they were like, your signature doesn't look the same. He was like, well, I'm going to starve to death. I swear, just don't look at me while I do it. I bet you I can do it.

Traveler's checks, that's a scam I need to get into. With a Q on the end. So apparently the whole idea behind those chips, which I assumed was like a security thing uh but uh super producer nick stump was saying that that is actually to put the liability on the store instead of the credit card company because i guess it pinpoints the location of the card to being there like you know for a fact the card was there rather than someone like manually punching a credit card number with an expiration date or something.

They're like, no, you put the chip in right there in our terminal. Right. Either way, the signature part of it, I don't know. Maybe that was opening the credit cards up to liability before. I don't know. I think it was one of those things where we just got excited about knowing we're not signing.

I don't care about the rest of the details. Exactly. I will no longer be signing. Well, this is like when suddenly- Susan. Suddenly Susan, my favorite show, came out. No, when suddenly airlines were like, oh, yeah, you don't actually have to turn off your phone during takeoff and landing for a little while. They just opened up. They said that?

Yeah. There was a point where we used to have to actually turn shit off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't even have your phone on. Right, or in airplane mode. Well, before that, they were saying you had to turn it completely off. Oh, gotcha. And then they were like, all right, we were just fucking around about that.

Which brought about my favorite joke in Soul Plane. Someone tries to make a phone call and the plane goes down. Classic Soul Plane. See, the aviation industry paid for that joke to get written in. Right. You see? Are there other things like that that you guys can think of that you're like, I bet this doesn't actually need to exist. Or that the function of it doesn't totally make sense.

You're just waiting for them to come out and be like, yeah, we were lying about that. The whole political system? Police? You know what I'm saying? Police are never going to come out. You know what I'm saying? Our two-party system of government?

I don't know. I'll have to do something in my day-to-day that pisses me off. Red light cameras. What do you mean? Red light cameras are I've been popped on a fucking red light camera. Unconstitutional though.

You're not supposed to pay them. You don't have to. They can't come after you. Uh oh. I run red lights all the time. Well they played my ass. We do stand by this

as legal advice. We will stand by this. Wasn't there a case because somebody because they argued they're not allowed to they created a spray that would react with the flash that would basically obscure the license plate.

And then it got into this thing of like, well, actually, this spray is legal because what you're doing is illegal. And we're protecting ourselves from, I don't know. I'm not exactly sure. But I do know that I'd be running these red lights and it'd be flashing. Now, listen, not recklessly. Look, if it's 2 a.m. in L.A. and nobody's on the road, that's like olden times, like horse and buggy rules.

I like that. You should use this in court, too. My honor, I have to tell you. My honor, not even your honor. My honor, can I say something really quick? This is like olden times. The old olden times defense. I have read somewhere that red light cameras cause more accidents than they prevent because basically people, it adds a lag in the slamming on the brakes because you have to be like, okay, am I going to stop or go?

And your initial instinct is to go for it. But then you remember there's a red light camera there so you like speed up then slam on the brakes and people just get wrecked that way exactly that's see i'm trying to save lives out here exactly okay well uh so do not pay your red light camera bills uh super producer anna hosnier is letting us know that her mother designs those cameras will directly impact her family so actually please pay everything that they say you have to do when that happens. Yeah, y'all pay. I won't. But Zeitgang,

I want to hear some of your things that are like the credit card signature that you're just waiting for the companies to come out and be like, alright, we don't know why we were doing this in the first place. Let us know and we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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room. A Manhattan hotel room where he was storing documents? I don't know. I don't know. This could be something. The story as it's being reported is that Mueller found something and passed it along to the FBI,

and they are making this raid based on that information, or at least that's what Michael Cohen's lawyer said. But, I mean, presumably this guy knows where all the bodies are buried, so that's why people are reacting like it's a big deal. I have never seen somebody who scanned more as a criminal in my life than Michael Cohen. I remember seeing him for the first time on one of the news shows during the Republican National Convention and just being like, who the fuck is this? He's clearly going to try and bury this guy because like he can't have people like this associated with him once he's president. Yeah. And lifelong friends with Felix Sater. He might be a Russian

spy or he might be an American hero, depending on what you believe that's been written about him. Right. So I guess we'll have to do some digging and then we'll tell you what we find tomorrow. Yeah. But back to the show. And we're back. And so we wanted to cover some media here at the end of the show and first up we wanted to talk about some right-wing media that uh things aren't going well for some of our favorite outlets no i i really guys it's really hard being a nazi in 2018 especially if you're trying to be in the media because i guess people don't fuck with the message or something. I still don't know what it is. But for serious business, Stormfront, which is like one of the most infamous like neo-Nazi

websites out there, they are in some pretty like they're in some financial trouble. And like the founder announced like that, you know, contribution to their site was less than two thousand dollars in recent months. And it would have to restrict access and put their hate-filled bullshit behind a paywall. Oh, God. And they're basically saying, boo-hoo, we've got only $2,000, which is not even enough to, quote, cover our basic server and radio bills. And this month, we no longer have enough personal money to make up the difference. Well, I'm sorry.

That's probably because you guys are heinous people, and the shit that you post is fucking awful. So Stormfront was like the OG neo-Nazi website, and then the Daily Stormer, which is Andrew Anglin's website, they came up and kind of, they're like the new kid in town. And also that website is also having trouble because Andrew Anglin, he's facing a lot of lawsuits because he was like, you know, he claimed that he was the person behind inflicting like this distress on a Jewish real estate agent. I think in that town of Whitefish, Montana, where Ryan Zinke is from.

Of course, of course. And also like another person is suing him for defamation. it's getting hard for him too because now like that uh you know a lot of people who are doing transactions uh with the daily stormer and things like that they're no longer sort of providing the financial infrastructure for these people to raise funds and things like that so it's uh it's it's overall looking like funds are sort of dwindling uh for for these kinds of websites i mean not to say that this shit is going to vanish forever but you know it's funny to see these people go and just be like oh my god we're victims and blah blah blah it's like you know the splc says like some of you are actually directly involved with like murders and shit or your rhetoric has led to

these kinds of things so don't you know go cry somewhere else i just you know what it is i think is that uh the kind of material that they're putting out it's hard to have a news page stay fresh when everything is just the same old shit that you've been saying like the kkk doctrine hasn't really like you know evolved and grown into something it's just you know killed kill the colors and uh they're doing all the bad things so it's like after a while whatever keep checking the site for i know what it's gonna say i know what's on there. Let me guess. Obama something something. The blacks are bad. Immigrants, Muslims.

Immigrants, Muslims. It's like y'all don't got no fresh content, no fresh white supremacy going on. Like y'all don't have a take on Tekashi69. Right. What's the latest white supremacy fashions? We know New Balances and polos, but what else are white supremacists wearing? You know, get some columns in there. Get some excitement in there.

And then people may come back. So you should offer your businesses, yeah. I'm offering my services, Women of Color, as for a rebrand for your neo-Nazi website. Yeah, exactly. Look, if anybody knows Nazis, it's Women of Color. Okay? One of our earliest segments on the Daily Zeitgeist

was a look at this Nazi letter that went out to people before the Charlottesville meetup, I guess. Meetup? White supremacist. Take back. Yeah, white supremacist con that was informing people how to be chads, which is their word for being a sick bro who's like hot and chad chicks

want to get with yeah uh and it was just incredible i forget what episode it was but i think it was i think it was maybe one of the bonus oh was it one of the bonus from the early on but that was with jamie i think right okay yeah i mean they do have that one devil who has that haircut richard Spencer? Richard Spencer. Fashwave is like a haircut. He's a looker. But even he is having trouble. You know, everyone's abandoning him, too.

And he's like on this website, like maker support. And he was like, yo, guys, I'm broke. Like, I need money. Like, there's no way for us to make money as neo-Nazis. Right. Yeah. And their fan base is poor people. So they're not going to be able to help you, fam.

That's the whole reason. Well, I don't know. I mean, I feel like Robert Mercer, obviously, like, you know, he'll probably come through with a few dollars. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true. But I feel like the larger base is poor people. Like, because once you start having enough money,

I feel like there's some people who stay on the hate wave, but there's some people who are only on it because they were broke. Well, right. Or it helps explain, you know, if you can't sort of... Why't why their life is bad yeah if you can't understand sort of what the other powers that be it's much easier to be like hey it's the immigrants or the caravan of people that's coming i'm very happy though that they can't work or eat because they're terrible people so if the if money is you know being drained out of their business and that's the same thing that happened

so also along that line not so you know you know, fringe is all Fox News. So, you know, Laura Ingraham had that like spat with David Hogue where she was like, you didn't get into college, you shooting victim. And everyone was like, holy shit. No, Laura, bad Nazi, bad Nazi. And so after that, like a lot of advertisers started falling out because they're like, you know, it wasn't even that people obviously know if you're if you're advertising on Fox, you know what their brand is. It's to be controversial.

But this one was so like just so it showed such a lack of boundaries, like of just like, yo, that is not even like a person to come at, especially in that way, like a kid that a lot of people bailed. kid that a lot of people bailed. And like there was a like a media research company that sort of did a little analysis. And they said that the advertising time in her and Laura Ingraham show in the two days after that tweet to David Hogue, it was cut down by half. And then even on Hannity, they show that Hannity show even consistently has like 15 to 20 percent less ad time than the rest of the primetime lineup at Fox. Now, people at Fox say that's because we want less commercials because we don't want people to switch the channel when it comes to break. But also, if you really look at it, too, Rachel Maddow has been coming up in the nine nine o'clock spot.

So that ratings have been going on. And like and I think in March for the first time she was beating Hannity. So I think they're kind of like, yo, we got to figure out how to keep people there. I love the rebranding though. I love that they'll never admit what's happening is happening. They're like, no, no, no, we're just giving the people what they want. More. Right, right.

More hatred. Less commercials. Yeah. I mean, even when you watch Fox News, which dominates the other ones in terms of just actual numbers of people watching uh the ads on fox news are always like those commemorative coins and shit it's just it's very specific type of advertising that's aimed at very old white men and that's not a very valuable demographic like people aren't aiming for the elderly and the retired. No, you need millennials to, you know,

that's the group that gets advertisers so horny. Like millennial is like the ad buzzword of the millennium where they're like, oh yeah, can we reach millennials? Affluent millennials? Their point of view couldn't be more out of step with the point of view of affluent millennials. But this is something that I've been seeing online pointed out a lot as a free speech issue,

which it's important to note that the only thing the First Amendment protects is you from having the government tell you what you can and can't say. If people don't like what you're saying and choose not to give you their money to have their brand put next to you while you say some fucked up shit, that's just capitalism, man. Well, that's why we need to add an amendment that advertisers don't have the right to bail on my show

if I disrespect a bunch of young shooting victims. I just think that Fox, is it me or has it skewed even further right into crazy town in the past few years years like half a decade because i thought like i remember watching fox in high school because i'm from texas so you know it's just gonna be on the tv sometimes um and then not being that insane and knowing tons of republicans because i'm from texas who weren't like ashamed to be republicans it was more about

like you know hey we want less taxes we want you know to keep our money whatever it wasn't like ashamed to be Republicans. It was more about like, you know, hey, we want less taxes. We want, you know, to keep our money, whatever. It wasn't like now where I feel like it's more rooted in hate than like the actual financial gains of being a Republican. Well, I think that's the problem with Fox is that like it's sort of the de facto arm of the RNC's like publicity wing. So it has to kind of go along with now we have a president who is fucking whack as fuck so that inherently informs the kind of shit the that fox is doing to try to normalize it and to keep everybody that's in the base to be like okay everything's fine it's okay it's actually these other things that are the problem it's the immigrant wave coming through in the caravan

and all that shit and i i do think it started going in that direction when Obama became president, because they, I mean, this is something I wanted to talk about, uh, is just sort of how the idea of making news a commodity that you're trying to get people to buy and pay for. And just like focusing on numbers is a super dangerous thing because I mean, if their demographic is becoming more and more afraid of the government because they're racist and a black man was just elected president, then Fox is going to become more and more right wing to try and chase that demographic. And this is something that we just saw in the past couple of weeks with BuzzFeed. So BuzzFeed had this whole thing with Trump seeing a Fox and

Friends story about this, what they were calling a horde of immigrants coming towards the Mexican border, and they were going to cross without anybody. So this all started with a BuzzFeed article where the headline was something about how, you know, this caravan is heading for the border and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. And my background, I was the editor-in-chief of Crack for a while. And so I have experience with, you know, trying to find the best title to make something the most clickable that it possibly can. And the way that these headlines are generated is there were probably 20 different headlines for that story that they put out there. They have just hundreds of interns probably generating these different things. And then they algorithm test it to see which one is the most clickable. And then they just go with that. And it doesn't matter if that

is the least accurate. They're just going with whichever one is going to get the most eyeballs. Same with Fox News. They're going to go with the stories that get their audience most excited and that match their audience's pre-existing views. So I don't know. This is just a danger. I think American media has always been profit-driven, right? But there was this inherent understanding that, okay, you had to keep the newsroom separate from the people who sold ads. That was a church state thing. And this was something that I, even in my time at Cracked, I was like, well, do we have to do that anymore? Maybe we can start doing some, getting advertising involved in things.

But this is why that's so dangerous is because you really need to isolate the headline creation, like the whole thing, the people who are creating the news from the capitalist impulses of the business or else you're going to get shit like this. But when you guarantee Coca-Cola 3 million clicks on some shit, then you have to be like, okay, well, we sold these impressions to an advertiser and the only way is like, well, we have to make sure these articles are as clickable as possible right so then the story about immigration turns into hordes of immigrants

moving towards the border at the detriment of journalism right yeah and i mean it yeah when you look at buzzfeed i mean like they they really knew how to title shit to get people to be interested in the most mundane shit you know what i mean it's like check out these 16 child celebrities now number eight will make you shit you know what i mean you're like oh god what is this shit you know what i mean and now we're seeing that with our news where it's like yo don't fuck it this this is not how this i mean i get because buzzfeed has done some good reporting too yeah for sure yeah, this is also just kind of reckless. And I don't know if that's a function of BuzzFeed really overestimating the kind of revenue

they would be generating this last year that they failed to hit some of those goals. And I don't know if that's a function of that, of trying to be like, okay, we need to really make sure shit is going. But yeah, this is how we're seeing everything now, even from CNN, MSN, everybody knows, let's try and create,

like, let's get the headlines that are going to get clicks now, too. Even if it doesn't serve the people in the best way or serve, sadly, how the president digests news in the most effective way. Yeah, news and entertainment have gotten way too close to each other. And obviously for-profit news. Right, right. So then it's like I can't really tell the difference anymore. I remember reading a paper and, like, even the New York Times is getting a little, like, right-wing, weird, like, I can't really tell the difference anymore. I remember reading a paper, and even the New York Times is getting a little right-wing, weird. They did an expose on the bomber in Austin, and it was so endearing.

I was like, what is this thing about? Black victims are criminals, and white criminals are like, oh, he loved Taco Bell. Like, what? Why? But somebody has to get off on this. Maybe the country gets off on like, because we do like true crime shows and stuff like that. So maybe it is one of those where people think like, oh, if we humanize this like sick ass person, it's like interesting to me. Without taking into account the cost of that, of being like, oh, this is how we're portraying these kinds of people and giving them the attention and all that yeah it's a people are inherently like have that uh morbid curiosity

about the people the mass shooter the the bomber and you know you want to see a show about them on netflix right yeah i mean and i am like i'm curious like when people are like have the gumption to murder other people i am a little curious about them well right curious. Like when people are like, have the gumption to murder other people, I am a little curious about them. Well, right, because I think most people are like, I could never do that. Right. It would drive somebody to that point. Right.

But it's not, I don't think the way that they write these articles is healthy or useful. But I get it. Yeah. Anyways, I hope you've enjoyed our ad-driven infotainment podcast, The Daily Zeitgeist. Laci, it has been a pleasure having you as always.

Thank you. What are you up to? Where can people find you? Ooh, you can find me on Instagram at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Laci, or my comedy Instagram, Diva Rance. Ooh, I host a show called Trap Prof at UCB Franklin.

The next one's midnight, April 28th. It's super fun. Come out. Go. Yeah, get ratchet. Miles came last time. Yeah. I loved it.

I love it. I loved it. It's the most not white improv show I've been to. Like, it feels different. You know what I mean? Like, you know the vibe of, like, most improv shows. Yeah. And this one, it's such a fun show. Come guys, it's a live

band, live DJ. It's very fun. We always have great special guests. Snacks. Snacks. Ooh, I got wrap snacks. Oh, you did? Those chips? I ordered them on Amazon and they were pricey but we're going to be giving them away. What are wrap snacks? Wrap snacks are like rapper themed potato chips

aren't they? Yeah, so like Migos came out well, you ever heard that song with a dab of ranch? Yeah. The roly-roly-roly with a dab of ranch? Yeah. Well, they're referencing the wrap snack. So Migos has a dab of ranch, ranch snack. And somebody has honey barbecue.

I think that's Trina. Fetty Wap has a flavor. They all have different flavors. Yeah, Fetty Wap, I think he has honey jalapeno. Yeah. Fetty Wap has a flavor. They all have different flavors. Yeah, Fetty Wap, I think, he has Honey Jalapeno. Yeah, the guy from Atlanta, the Paperboy character, just got some rap snack flavor. Lil' Romeo has one? Yeah, Lil' Romeo.

They bring back lots of random people that you're like, okay, I guess you can have a flavor too. So it's not like the biggest rappers. No, some are big, but some are just rappers. But yeah, so we'll be giving those away and stuff. But yeah, those are the places. Where is Fetty Wap? Is he okay?

I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I haven't heard a lot out of him recently. And then if you're in LA, UCB, Franklin, or Sunset, Mod, or Harold Knight, come see me on Mama or Leroy. Boom. Boom. Miles?

Before I give anybody my social media accounts, I want to shout out James, the homie from the Zeitgang at Pizzana Restaurant. Yeah. So a few months, I think it was a month or two ago, it was National Pizza Day and Jack and I were talking about the best pizza. And then he came on Twitter. He's like, bro, you got to come check out this restaurant because this is the best pizza. Jack and I go Saturday.

And it was a minor miracle. we we agree with the la times food critic jonathan gold who called the pizza a minor miracle uh it was really fucking good yeah and james uh big zeitgeist fan a super nice guy uh so you heard it here first guys the daily zeitgeist can be bought and sold offer us nice shit we will take advantage of it and shout you out oh yeah and also if you're looking for me on Twitter and Instagram

it's at miles of gray miles of gray you can find me at jack underscore o'brien on Twitter you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter we're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and we have a website dailyzeitgeist. Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page, and we have a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Footnotes. We link off to the information and things that were mentioned in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. Miles, do you have a song to link us off to? Yeah, yeah. I just want to just a vibey instrumental track by Tebes, a really amazing beat maker, producer.

This is a track called Why Like This. You know, it's just got that little lo-fi vibe I'm into, little Flying Lotus vibes. Guys, just, you know, relax. It's Monday. Let's take this week on together. All right, that's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.

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