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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Well, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 248, Episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast. Okay, I'm just letting you know, this is a podcast. But what do we do? Okay, we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. I'll give you the full description right there.

It's Tuesday. Wait, no. It's Wednesday, August 3rd. See, yesterday I thought it was October. Look, bear with me one fucking day at a time. It's Tuesday, August 2nd, 20-fucking-22. And you say, what day is that? What national holiday are we celebrating?

Today is National Georgia Day. So shout out to Peach State. You know what I mean? Miles, you messed up the date. You said Tuesday, August 2nd. It's supposed to be Wednesday, August 3rd. Didn't I switch to August 3rd? Not the second time.

Damn, keep that in again. Because we having problems. I need to let the audience see behind the curtain. We are human. It is Wednesday, August motherfucking 3 2022. Correct? Yes. That's correct.

Okay, thank you. What is August 3rd? It's National Georgia Day. Shout out my great-grandmother who is from Athens, Georgia. And yeah, anybody else who hails from the Peach State, it's your day. Let's see. Who am I? Well, I am none other than Miles Gray, a.k.a. the Lord of Lancashire, a.k.a. Hideo Noho. And the experimental Blasian artist, your boy, Kusama.

So thank you so much for having me. And who do I have in my guest co-host seat? Well, it's none other than one of the great co-pilots in this podcast biz. You know her as a host, a producer, a writer, a culture commentator. Anything that needs good taste, she has her hands in. Please welcome Joelle Monique. Bam, bam, bam. What's up, Joelle? I'm going to use my intro time to say happy birthday mommy she's oh it's your mom's birthday oh happy birthday mom

yes she's going to Vegas we're gonna go see Usher together I'm so excited for us yes with all of her kindergarten friends her friends from kindergarten are not yo she has kindergarten okay hold on let me bring in our guests because it sounds like we all want to talk about this uh because the way jackie went oh also to usher in vegas i was like hold on let's open up the floor i want to welcome today's guest in our third seat she is a hilarious stand-up comedian you probably know her from america's got talent maybe seen her seen her on fallon The Tonight Show, or maybe her new special that's out now called Menopause, which I certainly enjoyed. Please welcome Jackie Fabulous with the JG. Piyo, piyo, piyo.

There she is. What it do? Not much. Not much. What's going on, Jackie? Did I hear you say Lancashire? Is that a no-hold? Did you mean like North Hollywood?

Yeah, that's one. Oh, my God. Yeah, look, this is me right here. That's where the valley. Oh, my. Don't don't be that proud. It's not that. Oh, yeah.

It's rough over there. Don't get it. It's like New Jersey. That's what I compare it to. It's like the same way, you know, like people look at people from the valley, like bridge and tunnel people. And I'm like, yeah, that's where I live. The Cahuenga Pass.

Yeah. I lived on Laurel Canyon Boulevard. So I was always on Lancaster for some reason. There you go. There's a whole North Hollywood gang up in here right now. That is wild. Everybody starts in North Hollywood, I feel like. I would sit in that park on Magnolia and just contemplate where it all went wrong. Yeah, just think about your existence.

Oh, yeah. If you're lucky, it's first Friday. You go get yourself some food. You know what's so wild? The people who listen to the show know that park, that Amelia Earhart park right there, is where my dad told me he was leaving my mom. No. Oh, my God.

My whole life revolves around Northlaw. That park, I remember, Break Your Neck by Busta Rhymes was playing. And people who already listen to the show, they already know. March 7th. And you still live there? You're like, I'm not going to leave. I can handle the trauma. I can't.

Yeah. If that's it, if that's all you got, I'm I'm good. I'm good money. Uh, but Jackie, so you have, I was asking you before you have a JD. Yes. So you, so if we get into, if I have any legal questions, I can posit those to you as well. Uh, is there a corporate and if they're federal, meaning you don't have to have a bar card. I'm not a licensed attorney. I can help you. When you have a law degree, you're a lawyer, but to be able to help you, if you get a DUI or whatever, you got to be licensed per state. I did not take the bar in California. No reason. I was just lazy and for fear. And because I moved to California to go

to law school and then I eloped when I was there and, you know, I divorced him and then, but I finished school. So, you know, I'm one of those where entertainment was kind of an accident. I was bored. I was a funny girl at work, but I wasn't funny, annoying. I was funny. Like, Hey, you should try. Cause I was in Cali and, you know, if anybody sees talent, they're like, you should try pole vaulting. You're really good.

You know, very encouraging in Hollywood. So I just did stand up after work for fun, but you know so right very encouraging in Hollywood so I just did stand up after work for fun but you know the corporate world let me there did you have like a dream to do comedy or you kind of always probably knew you had the gift of gab and weren't quite pursuing it or how did that work I didn't I didn't know that you could make it for some reason every town in my opinion is a small town it doesn't have to be Minnesota it don't got to be Wisconsin I was in the Bronx and every town where you're you know sheltered from the outside world is a small town and all we did was watch tv no one in my family was in entertainment my father

thought he was the funniest one so i had i had no reference of i could be in entertainment got you and it wasn't until i moved to cali and people were like you're funny or what tv show are you on you're an actor after why like why am i keep asking me that let me you know should i try it because i hated everything i tried everything thus far right that was a regular job right yeah so i was like why not and i did it with no expectation that's probably why i stuck with it because it wasn't oh i already have my day job right right right but caltech when caltech fired me in 2010 that's when i'm like oh guess it was a full-time comic now okay there you go the world is better because okay and see i was saying i really like i think so many people right we

we put so much pressure on ourselves to achieve a certain way or to be at a certain place at a certain time and i think at the end of the day, right, everybody has their own path. Everybody walks, everybody gets to where they're going in their own way. And just because you're not going straight A to B, you might go A, B, C, D, and end up at J, but J might be where you want to be at. You got to give yourself the freedom to do that.

And I love hearing stories like that. Every experience is valuable. I have a good example. We all know Abbott Elementary, the biggest the biggest world janelle james a fellow comic she was in new york um doing stand-up and i was in my first time seeing her since the the explosion of her career right and i'm and i said how do you feel like and she's like i don't have a whole bunch of goals whatever when she was on a chemo

he was like so what's next you know so what's next and she's like i'm letting the universe take me where it wants to go jimmy and she says that to him and then to me i'm like girl are you are you okay like right right like who's your manager are you are you hydrated like you're eating you know fruit and stuff and she said to me jackie all i want at this point is you know i want a good man i want you, you know, good cocktails and good money. And, you know, and I'm like, OK, that's really how she felt. And it clearly is working. All the pressure she's probably had on herself. She took it off and had fun with the audition and with the product.

And next thing you know, she's in a hit. She is a hit. So you got to relax. I just got to relax the goals a little bit. Yeah, absolutely. And just like, you know, let there again. I feel like i always tell people life is like a river you know what i mean like it's going to pull you in a direction but sometimes we hit rocks and shit on our way yeah those rocks are obstacles and we're like sometimes we cling to the fucking rocks in the

river yeah these obstacles we don't let go of shit when really you'd be like just let go because that the river will keep taking you if you keep yourself free just stop clinging to shit and watch what happens that's why that's why i was in la so long i can't leave la you can't make it and leave right right right you can go right and then you go to new york and look at you now well jackie this is fantastic and you know what before we get to know even better joelle you're going are you so you're taking your mom to this Usher concert in Vegas? Yes. I wish I was. She's taking me.

So what happened is she's friends with all of her kindergarten buddies. They stay in touch or whatever. And they're like, well, we're turning 60. What should we do? So at first they went and saw Janet Jackson in concert in Ohio. And then they're going to go see Usher in Las Vegas.

And I was like, I want to want to see us i've never seen us here but he was on my bedroom wall when i was 13 and i think it's not fair that you go and i was like well why don't you come on and all my friends want to meet you anyway so we can grow up in the same town where she grew up and i was like i would love to do that so i'm gonna go hang out with all these women who turned 60 and go see us here Hopefully they won't be too drunk or belligerent. Get ready to see a whole new side of Auntie. Get ready. That's right.

Okay. Oh, man. You got to let me know how that show is. I can't wait. I hear it's awesome. I hear it's amazing. I heard he skates through like an entire act and I'm ready for it. Yes, please. On skates? Roller skates, dude. It's a show. Mr. raymond you don't play he don't play around i know i don't know why i expected anything less uh from him

like i mean his gliding already without skates was an excellent okay uh but here let's talk about just before we get to know jackie even better i want to let people know what we're going to talk about we're talking about uh first we're gonna talking about the name monkey pox and how that has become stupidly politicized and the, you know, the task of trying to change the name monkey pox for various problematic reasons. I'm sure we can all think of. Then we'll also talk about how Donald Trump is both sides in his own endorsements. Like he's trying to pick two winners. I don't know. I'll explain it. It's very, it's very childish. Then we'll talk about, I don't know i'll explain it it's very uh it's very childish then we'll talk about i don't you remember those campaigns like in the late 90s

early 2000s that was like you wouldn't steal a car would you so you shouldn't pirate vhs tapes and everybody was like okay watch me pirate the fuck out of everything turns out those fucking PSAs may have actually increased piracy. They dared themselves? Yeah. We'll get into the psychology of why that shit went totally backwards. And if we have time, we may have to drag Diane Warren. But that's a whole other thing. But first, Jackie, we got to ask our guest.

What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Probably porn stuff okay me and my fiancee every now and then we'll watch porn and i remember the first time i got the nerves to be like you want to watch porn you know to see what he's open to he's like of course so so i said to him i said to him i want you to pick the category and uh we were no he went to went to google whatever i'm like no google's too you know that's my head yeah we got better places for google go go to a porn a website yeah yeah so i said here's here's the website i said now pick choose the category you want us to look at entertainment and i'm like this can either go really well or really horribly right so he picked black bbw and i was like so you want to watch us

i said that is how boring are you you pick so you want to want a couple just like you and i right right right let's get the mirror and turn the bed around i'm like why so that might reveal that i too trusting because i'm also bored with it and he and he went straight for it listen i want to see a couple like just like you and i do things that we probably can't do anymore oh so in a way he was like this isn't like you and i because the energy levels are way different you know my right knee can't do that girl we gotta watch although i saw that video you i saw you twerking to the renaissance album oh yeah you know what over the

years i realized that i used to be the girl in the club starting the party i love to dance and nobody nobody dances anymore nobody goes to the club the club's boring as hell so i have to remind myself that i can still drop it i can't pick it up as fast but i can i can still drop it yeah when gravity is your friend the drops will continue into the future for sure uh what's something you think is underrated being bored i feel like i got kind of caught up in the the hustle team no sleep you know and then i was and then i would feel really guilty because i'd watch you know my very very very rich peers like kevin hart and stuff and why why don't i have a line of you know of leggings out with a protein drink and a movie while i have a radio show and make another

book you know i'm like what and then i realized he's mentally ill that's why he does all that clearly and i'm kidding he's not he's not mentally ill at all he's he's he's mentally ill. That's why he does all that, clearly. And I'm kidding. He's not. He's not mentally ill at all. He's mentally driven in a way that I don't relate to. Right. And he has his adrenaline and his achievement and setting up an empire for his family. And I'm just trying to get my mother to sign the house over to me without thinking I'm trying to kill her in her sleep. So, you know, I realized that. Different grinds. Different grind that. Different grinds.

Different grinds. Different grinds, different pace, different year, different privilege, different hustle, you know. So I realized that having all of these goals and stuff that I've had, sometimes you just got to let things happen, you know, the way they're going to happen. You don't always have to be on the hustle, you know, right to the first point. Let things happen. Let the river take you. And I think being bored is over, is underrated. on the hustle you know right to the first point let things happen let the river take you and and i think being bored is over is underrated being bored every now and then you gotta just sit your

ass down and you know whether it's your job or men or people who go from you know person to person they never take time to be single i'm like i'm like you need to be bored just sit around and just chill out yeah i mean so what what are what are some lessons you've learned in that boredom in those periods where you've actually given yourself the moment to be like you know what let me create some space here for reflection the pandemic it forced me to be home because i'm somebody i get more stage time than i would imagine most comics in the country thank god i'm blessed if i ask the club like can i go up my home home club, the Cellar in Manhattan, gives me God knows how many spots. I could pay my bills with that club if I don't go on the road.

So, you know, sometimes you just have to look back and look at what you have. And the pandemic quiet time made me realize I have a family that's getting older. And my mother and my aunt, they're, you know, going towards, you know, the light. They're in their 80s. A sister who's disabled who will need me at some point maybe not right now but at some point she will right i felt i fell back in love with somebody i kept pushing away but i felt like i felt like he wasn't my type and as a result i'm gonna get married again i thought i'd be married three or four times by now but this number two is enough yeah and so that's what i realized that, oh, living a life. I could be a better comic if I actually have a life and experience and go to the grocery store, you know, go to run errands like a human being.

And I always have some place to go. It allowed me to fall in love with my family and find a guy and write material about having a different life. Otherwise, other than just hustle, hustle, hustle. Where's the TV show? Where's the road gig? Give me, give me, give me. You know, boredom paid in dividends. Yeah, it gave me a chance to give.

Some people, some might say I don't give enough, but I think the way I give is through, you know, I can afford to contribute to whomever needs it in my immediate household. You know, I bought a new car because my family car, my mom's car was kind of dying. So now we have a car that we can rely on. Growing up, I was a taker. Yeah, right.

And being bored, like, oh, now I can actually be a little bit of a giver. Yeah. You get bored being single and unlawful and all you care about is yourself. All I cared about is myself. I mean, after a while, you're like, okay, enough of me. Can I get a boyfriend? A cat, you know, a bird to look after? And boredom taught me, hey, having a family doesn't suck.

Can I just meet someone at the Pit Fire Pizza right there? I mean, we don't got to go together, but can we holler at each other every now and then? Damn. Go to the dispensary, go to the movies after. I don't got gotta be a girl but we can hang out those are all easy easy activities i know you ever how what's your what's your relationship with boredom grind set mindset do you try and because i mean you you have i know you to be a high achieving person too but i'm always curious how you how you balance your time i have

a complicated relationship because i'm 30 and i'm not romantically linked and i don't have any children i'm a dog that i love you know and so i do have a lot like i want to accomplish like three trips in the next month and a half all of them are two of them are work related one is vegas where i might find work uh but i also uh i've been hospitalized for stress before and i promised myself I would not do that again. Right. So trying to find the balance between, you know, I like being booked and busy. I like knowing I have something to do coming up, but I also have responsibilities at home and a large friend group that kind of functions like family that requires attention and time. So I really try for

balance you know i do enough work do i take care of me so i don't have to go to the hospital again did i check in with all the people i love like i try to be in rotation with all of these things that you know service my life as much as possible but it's I don't know if I'm always achieving that goal of good balance, but I try. I realized I just came back from, I'm in Vegas now working, but I spent a week in Los Angeles. And you know what? I didn't have anything. I had something that was important for me to do out there, but nothing pressing. No big meeting, no big show.

I was just kind of like itchy to just leave because i had because i because i haven't been alone and what my my fiance and i are always together thank god he could travel with me if it's not him i live in the house that i grew up in you know me and my mom own that house now so i'm like i'm never by myself so so i i bought a ticket to la i i begged my girlfriends the two closest one i have out there can i please stay with either one of you? And they were like, sure. So I crashed. I borrowed a car from my manager.

So I'm like, it felt really good to just go. So when I came back, I told my fiance, I'm like, thank you so much for knowing. I just needed to go hang out with my girls. I didn't have anything pressing. I could have Zoomed, whatever the hell I did out there. But instead, I'm like, I want to go. I love i love la i live there so long i know where everything is right i hear i hear it's more it's less covety so let me go now while i can and he was like i know every now and then you gotta go take it with your girls yeah and you're sick and you're sick of me and that's okay every

now and then you gotta take take trips just for just for you. For you. Absolutely. For no reason. No. And people who love you will understand. Especially when, you know, you, if you have a position in your family or friend group where you are naturally looking after people and a lot of people, a lot of us are wired naturally to look after each other at the expense of our own wellbeing. Like it's the first thing that goes out the window. You see people, I feel like every person I know who gives so much of themselves to others and their family, the person they give the least to is themselves, or it takes a real effort to do that. And a lot of people don't even know, like have, don't even have the concept of like, what do I need for myself? Actually,

I never even thought of that. So really important to know that about yourself because it's regenerative. All right, moving on. Uh, Jackie, what's something you think is overrated? You know, I read this in the email. My first thought, if I didn't try and edit it, Tupac. Wow. Come out swinging. And not that he's not, he wasn't a gift to the culture. All the culture is mostly mine.

He was, he is. But, you know, I'm an East Coast girl. I'm always going to be Biggie till I die. Right. You know, and Tupac to me, he was just so, he was just so disturbed in genius ways that I'm like, how much of it was that? How much of it was talent? How much was just, he was angry because he was, you know,

he understood the world as it was and hated the world. He didn't have much power. He felt hated or misunderstood. So all that to me, I like about a few songs I like. I don't really find him to be the club. Let's go dance, Tupac. No, you're not. No, no one's throwing it back to Tupac.

That's just that doesn't happen and it's funny growing up in la especially at the height of the east coast west coast beef yeah i've always preferred east coast rap like the golden era of rap in new york is one of is like my favorite music and and that's no and that's no disrespect to the to the west coast scene because the west coast scene is you know every every part of the united states has contributed to what we have as hip-hop today but for sure personally i like a biggie punchline more than like the pros of tupac yeah because i feel like that's sort of the difference in their like lyrical style and i think yeah for the longest time people were like well which one's better and i've always been like they aren't comparable like yeah they are comparable they would never be

in the same cypher like you you wouldn't see Tupac trying to battle Biggie like that. That's not how they engaged with hip-hop. Whenever they had an album together or a song, they were probably forced. They were probably like, look, y'all gotta put our shit together because Quash is East Coast, West Coast crap. They didn't have a natural friendship. They tried to, but

realized we just don't mesh. I came up in the era of the South Got Something to Say. That's where I reside on it. I like Tupac and Biggie, although both have songs I cannot listen to. Sometimes Biggie's so dirty. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, Biggie, yeah. He was a sex symbol.

It's very weird, but he was a sex symbol. Yeah. Well, I mean, a lot of the lyrics in the 90s, you're like, huh? You said what about what? When you listen to him and Lil' Kim lyrics, you're like huh exactly you said what about what yeah well you listen to him and little kim lyrics you're like this is not you got to be 30 at least to listen to this shit i feel the same way about i was like oh my way oh my god trina is such a like you can't nowhere near your family can you put trina on oh no i remember i remember uh i had like the like a mini poster of the lil kim hardcore album cover

like on like on like a translucent binder thing and my mom saw it she's like what is that playboy i said no this is little kim this is music mom this is hardcore okay this is a big mama thing one of my favorite tracks you know what's funny back in's funny? Back in the TLC days, when they had condoms on their clothing as part of it, I had a keychain that had a condom in the glass in high school. And I came home one day and my mom broke the glass, took the condom out. I forgot all about that until now. And I was like, so you don't want me to? Yeah.

Do you or don't? I don't know what the mixed signal here. But yeah, it reminded me of that. It's like on that don't want me to yeah i don't do you or do i don't know what the mix signal here but yeah it reminded me of that like on that don't advertise it tip she was like on a key change it was for decoration that's not the one you want to use when you're trying to get down i thought it was in glass like break glass in case of emergency and very dangerous for the gentleman involved in that situation all the all the risk he has to take now, but, you know. Wait, what?

It was in a glass? It was in like a keychain like this. It was inside the glass in between. Oh, got it. So, yeah, like in a glass case, like a break in case of smashing. Yeah. Smash in case of smashing. Yeah. Smash in case of smashing. Yeah, exactly.

There it is. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, we'll take, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about some news after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County rebels. It's right here in black and white in the prints of a lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader.

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public call to do so, saying that it builds on existing stigmas and connects the outbreak to Africa without a clear link, that it's very lazy, racist people are going to jump to conclusions just generally because of a name like this. And they're saying like also just reinforcing broader colonial racist narratives, as many people were pointing out in their plea to the World Health Organization. And this move from scientists about a scientific issue clearly got people on the right wing media to have a take on it because they were suddenly like, wait, what? They want people to be more sensitive to potentially the people of Africa or others that are concerned with the stigma of racism. Well, of course, Tommy Lahren had something to say. She just basically was like, why don't they focus on figuring out how to cure the disease rather than the name?

It's a waste of time. And then you had the Washington Examiner say something flippant like this was more like akin to like a comedy sketch trying to figure out a new name. But this isn't just like around semantics. There's just like the general stigma a lot of health experts have noticed could actually prevent people from seeking care because of just just the idea of the name and all the hoopla around it is putting people in a position where they might not be taking their health as seriously as they should be. And New York City, they said, hey, World Health Organization, y'all need to change the name, even though they said they would be doing this a month ago. They still haven't. And LGBTQ groups have also said, look, this also has to be changed because there's a stigma around the virus.

And it's also just ramping up a lot of blatant homophobia and for no reason. And what's wild is like the the name itself is just fundamentally misleading. It was only named monkey pox because it was discovered in lab primates in the late 50s. But it's rodents who are the big transmitter of the disease. So it's just this like old shit from before. They're like, I don't know, found it in monkey pox. Fine, let's go with this name and that's it. And the new outbreaks that we're seeing in Europe

and like in North America are mostly human to human. So again, what is the point of having this name in it? And the other part of it too is health experts within Africa, they're also kind of pissed too, because they're saying, oh, when this was just a localized issue or something that wasn't leaving the continent of Africa, there was no issue with having the name be monkeypox. It wasn't until this is affecting more wealthy nations that suddenly there's like, oh, well, I don't know about this if this is the best thing. So it's like it's mired in a lot of a lot of shit, you know, just just to put it very plainly.

And the whole thing is, too, if this was a new disease, the way the World Health Organization has guidelines, they would not they would never actually use geographical locations or animals to, you know, to describe a disease because they themselves know how damaging that can be. So right now we find ourselves in a whole process where they're like the world health organization is like, yeah, we're going to get to it. We're going to get to it. And people are like, when? And they're like, oh, when the next meeting of this bureau, like bureaucratic body gets together to decide on it. And then they even said, we don't really even have any suggestions yet it's like what i'm sorry are you gonna do like a twitter poll to get a name like what what where where is the world face of a name well i mean where'd chicken pox come from who fighting for the chickens right what's the

original chicken pox right well and that's the thing they say like because of the pox part right they're feeling like it's even more diminutive to say monkey pox like it's already making it's already creating in the in the mind of somebody who's who may become infected it's like oh you have your you're a child or you're reckless just like all of the naming conventions they say are having like multiple issues with how people are perceiving things what about the association of monkey park with the LGBTQ community? Isn't that also a problem? Yeah, no,

precisely. And I, and what they're generally saying is especially the messaging around it as the beginning, they're like, if you're, if you're a man having sex with another man, you need to watch out or that there are all these different guidelines that

had to be met to get a vaccine when meanwhile there are plenty of women who are sex workers who are also saying i'm also at risk too i also need to be able to safeguard myself but because of this like outsized emphasis on sort of being like this is something that's just affecting men who have sex with men it was having terrible echoes of like the hiv aids epidemic too it's wild how many echoes and the consistency and the severity with which those echoes rose like for example i was reading the other day about a guy who said he had a pimple on his face uh if you don't know monkey pox occasionally like when it manifested it looks like a pimple he went into a dermatologist for something else dr came in

observed his face left came back in full hazmat oh tested him for anything but knew that he was gay because he'd been a patient here for a while and so this kind of like sigma the inability for some people to just get tested or to get vaccinated is it's exact if you guys haven't seen the quilt documentary about the aids quilt which really does a good job of documenting what it was like to get aids before our country cared you just see too many similarities and it's so weird coming right out of covid how just like why don't we learn anything at all, period. I mean, one woman was documenting her case online and she was saying that she had to see four doctors. And when they finally, they were like, we'll go see a dermatologist. And they were like, oh, we're not dealing with

these cases. But that is your job. Who else would go to be like, hey, is this a pimple or a pox? Like, please tell me I don't have a medical degree it's a scary time and especially if you have things to do that require you not being in your house which a lot of us have to you know or or i guess choose to i i am confused as to whether i have to or if i want to you know what i mean yeah the world is still going the world is still going i don't want to miss out on everything i don't want to get sick they're not going to close down i don't think i think part of the reason why the i guess the east coast you know pseudo opened up is because the economy you know and until it affects the economy nothing matters yeah and when covid shut down the world or at least the country

they gave us a year then they're like all right you know what this is some bullshit i don't care how you feel the month the wheel has to turn around and around so until it has at least the country, they gave us a year. Then they're like, all right, you know what? This is some bullshit. I don't care how you feel. The wheel has to turn around and around. So until it has become the money problem, it's never a humanity problem. No. It's always money first.

And that's what's scary, right? Because with the COVID pandemic, we're having a terrible lapse in our ability to properly test and take care of people because there's no funding for it congress didn't they're like they were fighting over money for that so that's gone and we're dealing with like really very narrow budgets to address a pandemic which is why there's barely any testing anymore and people like i don't know probably millions of people who got covid around i don't know we're not really testing anymore. All the money is gone. Everyone's driving around in a Lamborghini. They got with a PPP loan.

Right. And then even with this, right, we're looking at another situation where, because initially people are saying, oh, well, this is a marginalized group. We don't need to worry about it. But what you're also looking at, like a lot of the health experts, like you can't let this shit get out of control when you have the ability to to lock this down with proper treatments and getting people vaccines and things like that. Because a lot of the scientists are saying, like, if this if transmission hops into like the rodent community, then we're looking at an end like this. It's it's going to be here. And it's that's it. As soon as Scotty Irvine gets it, it's gonna be here and it's you know that's it as soon as scott even

irvine gets it it's gonna be a problem until then it's a minor inconvenience yeah right if we see a like a republican congressperson afflicted then maybe we'll know but until then that's what i'm saying like i think it doesn't it just doesn't square with the philosophy of taking care of people in this country because i mean we let over a million people die in this country. And that was whoever in the country. So now we're talking about something that the general perception of society is like, well, it's for people who aren't me. I can't imagine the lack of empathy that would be extended to them. All I hear is the perpetuation of racism.

That's that's all. I'm very cynical. I'm very cynical. I just know that, you know, black women, what we mattered, we mattered for the last two and a half weeks. here is the perpetuation of racism that's that's all yeah i'm very cynical i'm very cynical i just know that you know we're black women what we mattered we've mattered for the last two and a half weeks like i know every november and every november every november half of february yeah you know the men still rule so that's just the way it is unfortunately yeah but again i think you know it's important to like keep our eyes on these

things especially just how what slow the world health organization moves with things like that they're meanwhile saying like this has to be done seriously when other people are saying like well can you do this little bit first because we're already dealing with problems from monkey pox becoming like a meme with people and not actually understanding what's at stake here. Yeah. Okay. Let's switch gears really quick to Donald Trump. This, this orange, he is a monkey pox. Yeah.

This orange pock on the, on our society. He's always look, he has had a very fucked up relationship with the concept of winning. I think we've seen that. He knows he's not capable of winning shit on the merits. So it feeds his like insecure pursuit of power. It also makes him feel so tiny when he actually loses or even has the perception

of him losing. And right now, I think Donald Trump is in a very interesting spot where he's constantly, even though he likes to act like he's not worried about Ron DeSantis, he's constantly talking about Ron DeSantis, looking over his shoulder, getting mad at Fox News. He got mad at Fox News because they talked about a poll that said Ron DeSantis was much more popular than Trump was in certain parts of the country, like Florida. Sure, he's their governor, but he was like, I guess they're not on my team anymore. And then they tried to apologize. It got very awkward. And also his endorsements when it comes to picking candidates for races, they're not always surefire winners.

And sometimes you'll see if he picks somebody and the polls start to slide. He's like, actually, no, I was never fucking with them from the beginning. I don't know them. I never heard of them. Goodbye. Because my record is flawless. And, you know, he's also recently, he went to a rally, a fucking MAGA rally, and he got booed because of who he was endorsing

for a congressional seat. And I just want to play you this pic because it's just, it shows him being like, all right, y'all, here's who I'm fucking with. The crowd being like, boo! And him being so confused. And I think it's a good glimpse into sort of what he's experiencing right now. And a highly respected man just endorsed by me today,

future congressman for the 2nd District, Eli Crane. They're booing. He's like what Thank you You didn't like that But you like me right Oh god Yikes Oh my god

What the fuck? I hate him so much. But you like me, right? Please like me. Please. It's all I have. He's the crazy old grandfather you put down in the basement. Why are we listening to him?

Just give him snacks and let him watch King of Queens. Watch the same episode of King of Queens. He doesn doesn't know he's a crazy old man now that's what and why it's i mean this is and it's funny that you're you know everyone's sort of like what's going on like does he really run the party anymore because there seems to be a lot of fractures and it's clear that he does still have his hold like that's that's clear it's a cult it's a cult it's a cult yeah and then the rnc the republican party they're also trying to do something where they're like hey man if you run again we're not gonna pay your legal bills and so they're also trying to kind of like that was like this like little blurb that came out at the end of last

week where people were like oh wait huh so maybe they're trying to put some pressure on him to make way for someone else because they see him as a liability. But I think at the end of the day, all he has to do is start screaming at people and they'll fall in line. But you like me, though, right? That was the most shook I've ever seen him. We know that he is perpetually running out of money. Yeah. Like everything's kind of just held together by string at this point.

yeah like everything's kind of just held together by string at this point and so a financial blow like the loss of legal assistance with which he needs quite a lot could could change the game up and i'm looking for anything to stir the pot up in a different direction yeah for him because it's not going to be like his followers like there's clearly nothing that can be said or proven or videotaped shown that changes their opinion. Like, they don't care about that. Unless he's wiping makeup off his face and he reveals himself to be black, I don't think people are going to be like, whoa, whoa. Even then, I legitimately think they would pivot and be like, this is what all black people should do. To all be want to be white.

It makes sense. And he loves white people. He hated being black. He's one of us now. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. Okay makes sense. And he loves white people. He hated being black. He's one of us. Oh, wow. Wow. OK. OK.

So you should work for his campaign. You flip that one real easily. I know it speaks. It speaks to our humanity where I know a few people were like when they announced that Ivanka died and they saw the news. Ivana. Ivana. Ivana. Ivana.

Ivana. Ivana, the daughter. When Ivana passed away, everyone saw the headline. Trump died. Ivana. Ivana? Ivana. Ivana, sorry. Ivanka, the daughter. When Ivana passed away, you saw the headline, Trump died. Trump day. Everyone was kind of like, oh, man. I mean, sorry. Rest in peace. Rest in peace.

But we're also kind of like, that was the wrong one. Right. And I'm sorry to that woman. And I'm sorry. Somebody said, God, come back and get this man. I'm sorry to that woman. I'm sorry. Somebody said, God, come back and get this man.

That's how we feel. It's shameful. We're like, God, were you just, you know, did your wand slip? Damn it. Call the right one home. Anyway, so he must get stress diarrhea at the mere thought of having to pick a winner right now, especially in a contested Republican primary. And take Missouri's GOP Senate primary, for example. There's it's like a three way race. Kind of. You have Eric Schmidt, who is the A.G. and he's in first place.

You have Vicki Hartzler, who's in second place. And she has an endorsement from Josh Hawley, but also an unendorsement from Trump because he was getting real petty. He just want to let you know she got an unendorsement. And then you have Eric Gratens in third place, who's the disgraced former governor of Missouri. And this guy, Gratens, had an early lead because he's pretty maggot out. And he is. But the thing is, he's credibly accused of being violent with his wife and child. And his response to those allegations did not help him at all because he just basically said, oh, she's like an angry woman with a vendetta. And that's it. And I have nothing else to say about it. So people were like, oh, OK, that's not very helpful for anything or us to see that your humanity. And it also didn't help when he started doubling down on putting out like the wildest campaign ads.

There's one got a lot of headlines or, you know, coverage at the end of June, because this is one where he's hunting other Republicans with the help of a Navy SEAL team. And this was his this is an ad that he fucking decided to televise. I'm Eric Greitens, Navy SEAL. And today we're going rhino hunting. The rhino feeds on corruption and is marked by the stripes of cowardice. Just so you know, a rhino is R-I-N-O, Republican in name only. That's what MAGA people call Republicans that aren't with the whole fascist racist takeover. So like if you're Liz Cheney, you a rhino.

Even though she's pretty on board with most of y'all shit. Let's not forget that part. But anyway, that's what he's talking about. So he's going after fake ass Republicans. So they just do a flashbang in a building. Dynamic entry, tactical entry with these like SWAT cops. Eric Grayton's got a shotgun. Get a rhino hunting permit.

There's no bagging limit, no tagging limit, and it doesn't expire until we save our country. Uh, okay. I have thoughts as a film critic. Okay. So first. She has notes. Okay. I like this.

Okay. So first, hire a lighting. Okay. I like this. Okay. So first, hire a lighting guy. It's always important. I know a lot of people are like, I have a camera and that's enough. It's not enough. People will instantly tell if it looks cheap and bad. And you had natural light.

All you needed was a bounce board. You really could have made that work, but you didn't. Or some NDs on that camera lens so you didn't have the background all blown out like that. Come on now. Terrible. Also, his outfit and his skin was washed so you don't have the background all blown out like that. Come on now. It's terrible. Also, his outfit and his skin was washed out with the sand in the background. He should have worn a brighter color. I know that you don't want to be caught wearing makeup, sir. But yes, yes, to your point, Jackie. Like maybe a little highlight here, just a little bit of blending really could have helped your skin pop.

My biggest complaint, though, is you're out here hunting, but you entered an empty house and then ended your commercial. I don't know what was happening. The goal of these guys seemed to be to go capture someone, but no operatives were shown. Who are you going against? This is a regular American home, so now I'm terrified as a viewer. You're just walking into homes with six shotguns deep, but no one's in there. Was this actual SWAT? Y'all didn't know where you're going?

You got SWATed? What happened? It was like a real bad episode of HGTV House Hunters or something. It's demo day, bitches! Come on! Flashback, clear! Oh my God, it's so early, guys. It's so early.

That's true, though. Nothing looks more heroic than kicking down a loose, already open door and walking into an empty house where there is no action. But I think it's a good example for how Republicans live their lives, like constantly

looking for this invisible enemy that they're so afraid of like weapons of mass destruction it's kind of like that exactly like critical race theory you know what i mean like shit like they're like you you don't want to know about this thing that i can't define or properly identify but watch out they're grooming uh at the you know drag queen fucking library readings as we've seen their cake take du jour. So the other, I just wanted, so that's Eric Greitens or Greitens,

however you want to say it. The other Eric, Eric Schmidt, he's the AG and he's like the most quote unquote normal out of them. I guess just because he doesn't have any like outstanding, like legal allegations against him, but he's abused the shit out of his office. Like as AG,

like any Republican AG would do launched a ton of culture war lawsuits being like i hate the fact that you have to wear a mask or racism is actually good and part of america's history the second part is true but that's kind of what he's on so this leaves trump in this weird position was like well who am i to pick and do i get the guy in first who's nailed on? Do I take the guy who's been a reliable ally to me who, and Kim Guilfoyle, my son's girlfriend is running his campaign. Do I go try and, you know, go against Josh Hawley and the RNC because they pick someone else and they're telling me don't go with this other guy because he's problematic. Well, I just want to read this, this description of the process of where Trump landed on endorsing it.

This is from political quote, because the meeting wore on those familiar with what transpired, say Trump began to lose patience. At one point it was suggested that he could endorse quote, Eric, and that by doing so he would be supporting both Schmidt and great. Okay. It was a madcap exit ramp,

but Trump went in on the details, asking if the two candidates' first names were spelled identically, noting that it wouldn't work if they weren't. No shit. While Trump was intrigued, he also remarked that it might be too cute. He asked for draft endorsements to review, one announcing his support for Schmidt, the other for Greitens. And this is what ended up being announced at the end of like, I think, Monday night, early Tuesday. Quote, we need a person who will back down, who will not back down to the radical left lunatics who are destroying our country. I trust the great people of Missouri on this one to make up their own minds, much as they did when they gave me landslide victories in the 2016 and 2020 elections.

And I'm therefore proud to announce that eric has my complete and total endorsement so he just left it at that and both candidates are saying thank you president trump no yes isn't that a sign of alzheimer's when you don't remember what you did and you come back and do it again differently i mean i feel like that's every time for this man but yeah this is like someone on twitter was like this sounds like literally something from the show veep that would happen and it does feel a bit like it's it's so absurd but again it shows you how thirsty people are still for his endorsement that he could literally be like i endorse the concept of eric and people were like yeah okay i'm with that. We love all Eric's equally over here.

Think about it. How many blatant racists have there been running for office that high profile? You know, who's also a celebrity. So racists are like, we need to have, we need a spokesperson. Yeah. That's why he'll always have a cabinet or people who will follow you anywhere to the grave right we don't have anybody we don't have a spokesperson we're ashamed to say if we do have one because we get you know told we ain't shit they're not but you know they're right

that's that's why when obama was in office so long that's why they're like look you guys had him yeah that's not fair we didn't have anyone now we have someone we didn't have anybody the last i don't know fucking 44 fucking presidents so now we're like we had one they're like look you guys had a great time we're gonna go you're gonna go get our confederate flags and it's our time now yeah you know and it's true and and trump does act like this sort of avatar for a racist who'd be like see you can be successful and racist. Because I think the thing you see most of the time is people get out of pocket talking ignorant shit and they get they get their card pulled. They get their show canceled. They lose endorsements. Yeah.

You know, or some people actually lose their regular job. And someone like Donald Trump be like, look where you can get by being a racist piece of shit. He gets away with it. I need that. We need that to keep my, me, for me to be able to rationalize what the fuck I'm doing. He's a role model. That's the problem. Yeah. He's a role model. Terrible role model.

Oh, just, just to let you know, in that same race in Missouri, someone who's like in like barely getting any votes is one of the, that, that couple, the McCloskeys that in 2020 were holding their little guns at the people marching outside their house during the BLM marches. Oh, I saw that. They were trying to run. That guy went like the machine. Yeah, he's getting absolutely washed. So don't worry about his opportunistic.

Listen, I know that for a minute they were just really on your side for standing your ground. They loved that. But you had to have come with something, anything else other than that moment to run for office. What? Well, that's the funny part about how a lot of these people think left and right that they're like hey remember me from this moment i don't have shit else to say except this time i got famous and i'm not really offering much else aside from gesturing to a picture of me and my wife holding guns and doing that so

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And sort of comparing people using the internet to people doing survival crime or some shit, like stealing purses or whatever. And since then, it's become like a meme like there's uh our writer jm found like some really cool shit on etsy that's like uh like a dude wearing a shirt that says you wouldn't steal my virginity it's like what that's not even a funny shirt like you don't want to be walking around with that uh anyway so somehow the industry they overlooked a big error that these ads are being shown to paying customers at movie theaters and on DVDs.

So they were basically wagging their fingers at people who were still paying for the product. That was LimeWire and Napster, right? They're talking about that. Yeah, because that was the thing that I know would freak people out. There was like that one kid who got sued for using Napster and they're like oh my god like i'll never download an album again my ex-husband was uh that's how i knew about it back then you knew somebody was pirating when you would ask them so how many songs do you have on your computer and they're like oh 112 000 yeah yeah it was that it was back then like that the numbers are high and i was like why you always

need me to go to the store to get you blank CDs? Yes! Oh, my God! Old school. Yeah, you got that side also. I get it. It's like, yo, you have that new K-Slate tape? I do.

Buy it for me for $3. We can buy. I bought so many cases of those CDs. Yeah. Look, I was there. Look, pirate family arise. We see each other out here. So that was the thing. They were coming at people who already knew what time it was. They're like, yeah, I'm paid money to see this. I rented this DVD or bought this DVD. And this wasn't the first time the industry tried to do this shit. Like this happened in 1991 where they did this whole thing where they're like home taping is killing music because they said people with cassette tapes were just ripping songs off the radio.

And that's killing the industry, which also became a joke, too, because that never stopped anybody. They're like, oh, this is fantastic technology. Watch me hit record on this cassette player and get the song I want off the radio. But there were a number of these anti-piracy ads in the early 2000s, like when movies it was like really becoming a thing and some of them were like super intense like showing people like some dude in jail like hanging their head and be like oh my god my life is so fucked up and the big time they're sliding jail cell door clicking yeah and he's standing behind the bars yeah Just like tears coming down your face. Like, where's my mom?

But so the general consensus has been these PSAs basically did nothing to deter piracy. And someone did a study recently and they have found out that these, that this campaign may have actually caused people to pirate even more. Fuck you government. And you ask why? Well, the first, first first of all is like the quote they say absurd comparisons to like grand theft or other offenses basically water down the message like someone's be like this is not like me stealing a bunch of cars or robbing a bank

this is not connecting at all and also they also like because of the like these anti-piracy campaigns they sort of sent the message that everybody's doing this and it actually might be normal because literally yeah you're hearing it like hey don't be one of these people you're like one of who one of these pirates that's out here and you're like oh this is oh that's the thing people do? Oh, okay. I'll look into that. How well did you get music back then? Pay for it? No. Yeah, hell no. No.

And this study says, quote, informing directly or indirectly individuals that many people pirate is counterproductive and encourages piracy by driving the targeted individuals to behave similarly. These messages provide to the would-be pirates the needed rationalization by emphasizing that, quote, everyone is doing it. provide to the would-be pirates the needed rationalization by emphasizing that quote everyone is doing it so also this isn't just from the study but just looking at these ads like the website in those ads they looked so easy to use like as somebody who had to download shit they were not this clean like it looked like like the website in the ad was like feature films new

releases click download in the bar. Be like, yeah, like, yeah, shit. Why wouldn't like they're like, where is this website? Can I get there now? And piracy is on the rise. It's been increasing by 16 percent in this last year. And, you know, I think it's not it shouldn't really be a surprise, especially in this day and age where the internet is connecting people even more and more because i'll tell you this piracy is the like the target like or variety store for

like the broke kid or broke people because the world is at your fingertips when you can download a shit on a torrent you know what i mean people have more time too people figure out how to do it at home oh absolutely yeah absolutely and i and i was the same way i didn't have like money to go buy the newest cd but i damn sure know where to get that shit off of like bit torrent exactly who now pulled up to school and i've got stankonia uh on fucking tape for everybody and you could buy that shit off me for two bucks i have not heard the word torrent in so long i used to be on the phone with my guy he's teaching me how to download shit he's like he's like click on someone so torrent i'm like what is that right and look uh i allegedly was using all these products

uh that's just that's just no proof i didn't know proof nor did this is an entertainment podcast this is an entertainment podcast but guess what i do 50 cents, get rich or die trying right here. But I think like, it's, it's funny, like for my relationship to all that, I just remember saying like, Hey, can I get this CD? My mom would say no. And I said, all right, cool. I'm gonna get it off the internet. And I think it's hard to like really break that cycle because we still live in a like hyper consumer facing culture where having shit is like really matters. So as long as like these digital things are out there, I don't know how they could ever still live in a like hyper consumer facing culture where having shit is like really matters so as long as like these digital things are out there i don't know how they could ever curb it but you can't especially with more and more shows being developed all of the time and newer ways to pirate

being created it makes sense to me that we're seeing an uptick there's too much media to consume so even if you were the kind of person who wanted to own a lot of physical media, you know, you might pirate a few things here and there just to fill out your library because it's too expensive. I mean, and look, and shout out to all the technologies that we've enjoyed in the past to circumvent these fees, like Kodi. If you had a Kodi box, let me hear you one time. If you have a jailbroken fire stick, let me hear you one time. If you have a jailbroken fire stick, let me hear you one time. Because those were the kinds of things that people were like, why am I going to pay nine levels of cable bills when I can buy this one thing from the homie?

And I now have every show I need to get. And I can still keep up with the culture without having to pay a constant monthly fees. And I think as we look at people's incomes going down too, the need for pirated media and shit that are behind paywalls, I can only see that growing based on just the economics of it. I remember my last fuck buddy in LA kept promising to get me a fire stick for my computer.

My TV and never got it to me. So rude. I'm glad you're not with somebody like that. No, no no he was clearly a loser yeah he's like i'm gonna hook you up girl i'm gonna get you that fire get you all the stations girl you're like i'm waiting i'm waiting you're like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah see my man he's still waiting there because the supply chain i was like hell yeah get that shit i'll give you a blow job for that it's worth it it's worth it life is rough on lancashire boulevard north

it's rough in valley village that's where i live the city was valley village the new show coming soon lol life on lancashire coming at you well jackie i don't know a better place than to end it right there thank you so much for oh god you guys are so much fun. Thank you for keeping me company in a hotel room. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, see you, experience you, check out your special and all that? JackieFabulous.com. You can go to that to get my comedy album came out also the same week as a special. So they both call Men Applause on Amazon. But my link on my website, you can get everything you need. I'm at the Comedy Cellar in album came out also the same week as a special so they both call men applause okay on amazon but my link on my website you can get everything you need i am at the comedy cellar in vegas uh all week

until next week and then i'm back end of the week my birthday is august 12th so let's just focus on that happy birthday leo and is there a tweet or some other piece of social media that you wanted to shout out that you've been liking? Oh, I just saw Selena Gomez is going to remake Working Girl. Oh, yeah. And I retweeted that just before this because I'm really I'm really all for the chicks getting ahead and making stuff. And, you know, heading our own projects and producing things. So that's the last the last the last project i've just seen shout out to the second latina american to ever be nominated for a producer emmy selena

gomez she was nominated for um only murders in the building and so yeah i'm really excited to see her get into her uh executive bag and now she's producing and performing it's great I think she's really great she's really really a talented actress I've never really rocked with her music too much that's not shade to Selena fans don't come for me it's not for me but as a performer and as a producer she's picking an incredible product

projects she's picking incredible projects so I'm very excited about it yeah I'm enjoying seeing her take herself out of the childhood thing and produce her an actor and let's focus on her love life. I'm enjoying this. Most people cannot make that switch.

Transition? That's the hardest one. I mean, man, that shit. Okay. Friends I grew up with who just got lost in child acting were not able to get out of that. But anyway.

Cocaine is one hell of a drug. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And getting into Hyde for free every Friday night is a bad combination of 2007. Anyway, Joelle, Monique, thank you so much for helping me co-host. And for the last few days. I really appreciate you. Where can people find you and follow you? What's a tweet that you like?

Oh, my gosh. Well, y'all know me. You can find me all over the Internet. At J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. Tweets are liking. I have two quick ones. Okay, so if y'all were on Twitter, you know, Diane Warren, the songwriter, came for Beyonce. Said, how can there be 24 writers on a

song with an eye roll someone posted a video of her with mariah carey on a red carpet it looks like for variety and then beyonce's move out the way which is the song that has um queer icon grace jones on it and mariah puts her hands on diane's shoulders and shoves her out of the way on the carpet. And it is a sick video burn that I just really appreciate. So, uh, Bay. Millionaire. It's a funky spelling,

but you can find it. It was lovely. And I really appreciate, uh, any and all shade because, uh, Diane deserved it. She was out here being shy.

The other video I've really been enjoying on Twitter is somebody put the alien superstar video over the, she Hulk transformation from the X-Men animated show. And when I tell y'all, it is so effing good. I'm loving the alien women transformation, what he did. Sailor Moon. There's also one for Starfire. Keep them coming. I love them.

That's my new favorite meme. Yeah. Oh, man man that's good uh let's see some tweets that i like okay this one is first one is from grim at jessica underscore schultz tweeted i love when people refer to a solution as a quote silver bullet because it implies the problem is a werewolf yeah that i never really even thought about that another one is from alexa at mario kart dwi tweeted uh i don't need ketamine therapy i need a walkable city in 20 hour work week and that that would solve a lot of problems actually i feel like and then at guru lakers tweeted when does the clippers dock on hulu come out? I'm trying to see something. I heard they run things around here. Oh, that's right.

There isn't one. Oh, my God. Okay. Oh, my God. It sounds thirsty. It sounds thirsty. Yeah, well, I got the desert thirst. What can you do?

What can you do? I'm parched out here, especially after that last season. It's all I got. Anyway, you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram you can find us at daily zeitgeist on twitter at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes footnotes thank you joelle where we take you know you can check out all the articles we talk about as well as a song we write out on that song is going to be this track called have you fed baby huey today by surprise chef surprise chef is really great instrumental music

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