The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump’s Digital Dream, The Squid Game Myth 10.22.21

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

In episode 1014, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and writer Danielle Radford to discuss Trump’s New Social Media App is Already a Digital Dumpster Fire, Good News: Money For Green Energy Creates More Jobs Than Fossil Fuel Investment, New Study Finds, What about that Build Back Better Bill? Where we at? Squid Game isn’t ruining ISPs, ISPs are just greedy fucking pricks, Rotten Tomatoes = culture war,  and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump’s New Social Media App is Already a Digital Dumpster Fire Money For Green Energy Creates More Jobs Than Fossil Fuel Investment, New Study Finds  What about that Build Back Better Bill? Where we at?  Squid Game isn’t ruining ISPs, ISPs are just greedy fucking pricks Rotten Tomatoes Reviews Are the Culture War’s New Battlefield LISTEN: L U C Y - Almost Blue Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Started my day off with just a nice handful of cashews and, you know, it's giving me the boost that I need. Miles, are you a fan of, do you celebrate? Yeah, I'll probably celebrate with maybe two loose pistachios later on Yeah, that you find in like some couch cushions Yeah, yeah, and it's also National Make a Dog's Day So if you got a dog whose day you can make, you better go on and make it

Better go do that Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka I wish you would backtrack on that take, my friend that tom hanks has always peed in movies he's been in just go watch big or splash or news of the world again then you'll understand and that is courtesy of marky margarilius can't say I agree with the content, but, you know, he's calling me out because I say Tom Hanks pees in all the movies he's in. I don't mean that literally. He pees in a lot of the movies.

A statistically significant portion of the movies when compared to other movie stars. But not all of them. Just seems to be a strange through line that leads me to suspect that he's asking filmmakers to incorporate. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, aka

Blue Lives, Blue Lives, Blue Lives Piling up I think these dudes love COVID Blue lives, blue lives piling up. I think these dudes love COVID. Cops hate vaccines and they whine to their chiefs. No more ouchies. I'm trying to own the lips. Okay, I was just singing that to myself in the shower because

to-rah-loo-rah started sounding like blue lives something in my head so uh shout out to me and the shower thoughts yeah yeah what is that well i forget who did the original one i always remember the save ferris version as a child of the 90s oh yeah i thought that was the original one i'm a dummy uh well miles we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious writer producer producer, and comedian who is an expert on, among other things, professional wrestling. She's a writer for the Emmy-nominated Honest Trailer Series, as well as starring in several popular GIFs. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Danielle Redford! Oh, that's very nice! Also, I think I've mentioned this before.

My dad is a piece of shit cock. I think I recall that last time. Not my good dad. My bad dad. Right. I remember that very clearly last time. Because you're like, no, no, no. All the cops. All the cops

are my dad. Yes. What's new, Danielle? I have updates okay good i was i was asking you there's like a big contraption behind you it looks like uh one of the mario levels like in terms of just the complexity yeah yeah yeah for sure so i built a six foot two tall cat tree. And my cats are like, they like me now. It's weird because they didn't used to like me. I know they love me. It's amazing. Six foot two?

Probably. Like when you say you make it, like, is it from scratch? And there's like modular things like it's like not from scratch i definitely it came from a kit and i built it with my hands oh nice okay with my own black hand there it goes yeah i'm just i'm looking at it and it like it's more are you calling it a cat tray a cat tree a. Tree. It's more of a cat forest. There's a number of trees. There is so much happening right now.

It is wild. Yeah. Congratulations to your cats, National. Make a cat's day day. I always get jealous when I saw cat infrastructure in places. That makes cats' lives more fun. And I always be like, man, I wish there was stuff like that for people. By that, I mean

adult playgrounds, I think. I mean, that's just Squid Game. If you're just looking for sub words like, I just want to climb things and be a thing, that's just Squid Game. Go in that trippy stair room.

I'm making my way through Squid Game with my wife. And we are. Making my way through the world today with my wife. Exactly. I mean, two things. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's a meme matchup.

Wait, what episode are you on? I just did Tug of War. Oh, shit. You're taking my time, right? Taking it at ease. Taking my time in. So shit. Yeah. Taking my time, right? Taking it ease, taking my time in the world today.

Yeah. But the internet is threatening to spoil it. Like I'm starting to see a lot of things where people are like, I don't want to spoil it, but then they kind of do want to spoil it. So, and that's on me. I'm taking way too long a time.

It's just hard with kids that's a that's one of those shows you need to make sure their ass is asleep before you put that is it okay to talk about how much people have spoiled eternals oh yeah i know i don't even i i mean i've i didn't even know that was a thing that was happening but i could be reading them and they're not just connecting because i don't know anything about the movie. Yeah. So people have really spoiled Eternals and people are super mad about it. Yeah. Makes sense.

Yeah. People don't take kindly to those Marvel spoilers. That's for sure. Yeah. It's okay. I'm not going to spoil it here. Okay. But it was like bad.

Oh, damn. Oh, the movie's bad? No, the spoilers were bad. Or the spoilers are bad. The spoilers were bad. I haven't seen the movie. Oh, damn. Oh, the movie's bad? No, the spoilers were bad. Or the spoilers are bad. The spoilers were bad. I haven't seen the movie. Oh, got it, got it. The spoilers were bad.

Yikes. That's, come on now. You hate to read something like, imagine if The Sixth Sense came out in the age of Twitter, too. No, it was a bunch of variety writers who should know better. Right.

Yeah, no, that's no good. And when you say they're bad, like they are bad, like they are bad, like they ruin things, or the thing that they're suggesting happens sucks, like makes you not want to see the film. So they spoiled

the after credit scene. Oh, yeah. I did see that. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Well, that's kind of fucked up. All right. Well, Danielle, we're going to get Okay. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's kind of fucked up. All right. Well, Danielle, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the Trump media empire that is coming for all our asses. TMTG, Trump Media Technology Group. I feel like they have been watching Succession. Like, just the aspiration here. I feel like he's like, that could be me. That should be me. My kids are all fuck-ups. So, we're going to talk about that, what their plans have revealed. We're going to do some good news, hopefully, if we have time to get to it about just, you know, some solution-based things for the environment. then we'll get back to the bad news about uh what's actually happening in washington we will kind of fact

check another another story that's been going around about how won't you feel bad for the ifps because squid game has has made their lives so difficult they don't know what's burning up the bandwidth. And maybe we'll even get to a new historical narrative from David Graeber. All of that, plenty more. But first, Danielle, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Hoagie sauce.

Hoagie sauce. What's hoagie sauce? It's a sauce that you put on hoagies right uh but i mean like was that's a regional thing like because i mean hoagie already that that already takes us out of the west coast that's why like i'm because i'm west coasty i don't know what hoagie sauce is so i'm i was researching what that was hoagie dressing hoagie sauce lennoxville general store hoagie sauce italian dressing recipe oh yeah right what that is i okay i've seen this because i've i i bought it like years ago it's basically like the dressing that they'll put like on the like that kind of

goes on the lettuce like rather than having just olive oil and vinegar, it's just like that little bit of, you know, spruced up juice to keep your sandwich damp. The spruce juice. Yeah. I don't like damp juice. You don't like your bread to be like soggy. So it's barely a solid anymore by the time you get it home.

There's a whole thing about your bread and the divider between your bread, the other bread and your meat. And so you need that divider to be solid or else that divider is just fucking garbage. Yeah. Usually a little bit of cheese. Wait, how come you were looking up hoagie sauce? You just heard it and it peaked your interest? Well, because someone told me that I was doing my hoagies wrong. Oh.

Where are you sourcing your bread? Ralph's. Ralph's? Okay. Hell yeah. The one and only. What is something you think is overrated? what is something you think is overrated?

I think it's overrated to super care about what Superman is doing. I think it's weird. Yeah. I think you're all weird. You're talking about like, because, uh, because of by Superman. Yeah.

I think it's weird. I think it's weird that people care. First of all, superman is just his son who's just like hanging out being cool right oh that's not clark that's not clark kent no no no no oh because everybody that's interesting because i think everybody's reaction it's it probably came from a group of men who have Superman tattoos who were like, what? Bye Superman. Fuck that.

This is supposed to be Superman, not super fluid with their sexuality. No, I just think it's weird. Yeah. Is what, what is, so this is Superman's offspring. What is Superman like as a parent in these?

Cause I feel like he always dips for years at a time and just goes and hangs out in space. Right. Those t-ball games? Is he shooting with his son in the gym? That's right. Is it Superman and Lois Lane's offspring?

Yes, absolutely. The last time I paid attention to Supermanman it was like when i was six and christopher reeve everyone is super cranky about this no one pays attention to fucking superman yeah i think that's where it comes from right is there like no christopher reeves but like he he's into lois lane like no one fucking cares. I mean, my kids are into Superman because

it's just like the easiest superhero to get your head around. But I feel like it's just very entry level. Very like gateway drug for other superheroes. So he's like the sliced sandwich bread of superheroes. Why don't you move on to Chabata or Brioche? Yeah, I feel like even now my three-year-old. So he's like the sliced sandwich bread of superheroes. Yeah. Why don't you move on to ciabatta or brioche?

Yeah, I feel like even now my three-year-old, when he's interested, like when he wants me to read him a Superman bedtime story, it's more like nostalgia because he's like way more into Spider-Man and The Flash and like the other more specific, interesting superheroes. But like, yeah. Yeah, literally no one cares about Superman. Everyone is so angry,

and I promise you none of them are reading the comics. Yeah, I think that's right. Don't come for Danielle on this. It's the truth. What is something you think is underrated? You know what I think is underrated? Finding out that your cats want to cuddle you a whole bunch. Wow.

It's a long, hard road. I know. It took a while. How many years are we talking since they came into your life to them cuddling you? Yeah, a bunch of years. They don't like me. How many cats are we talking? Two. Two.

Hudson and Ripley. Tough love? Don't like me. But now they do and it's like super fucking great. Are you like commemorating this? Like you taking pictures and stuff? No, they don't like

pictures and they crawl all over me. They don't like pictures and they crawl all over me. Wait, they don't like pictures? No, they know when I'm taking a picture of them with the camera. They hate it. You have to pretend you're reading something while taking their picture? Absolutely. So you can't even come with receipts about this?

Nope. For all we know, you might be lying about this, but I'm going to take your word for it. I'm probably lying. I'm a liar. I mean, I think that I think it's generally the case like that. The status quo for most cat relationships is that they like tolerate their human in a lot of cases. So, like, can you tell cat owners out there, like, how did you turn this corner where they're like all about you? You know, I just waited it out.

Yeah. And built them massive play structures. And again, I'm like a weird stepmom where I was like, come to me. Watch as I build this giant structure in your name. What do I need to do for you to call me mother? I just need you to love me. All right, let's take a quick break, and we will be right back to talk about the Trump media empire.

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and then a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like i was living in north korea but worse if that's possible listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and we're riding the roller coaster of uh danielle's relationship with her cats apparently they're they're causing all sorts of havoc my guess they know that it's national make a dog's day day but taking back the power yeah yeah take back the power they're like no fuck this all right let's uh let's get into the the third announcement from donald trump about how he's going to change the landscape of media. He has announced Trump Media

Technology Group because he believes he can take down big tech by creating a worse product that can't compete at all with Netflix, Twitter, and even a company called iHeartMedia. He's coming for us. He's coming for us. I've heard of iHeartMedia. I haven't, but somehow this man has. And yeah, he also thinks he can go after Amazon's cloud service and like Stripe for like payments and stuff. This is all because he thinks that he can create like essentially an uncancellable internet infrastructure so if no matter how racist or vile you are they can't say like well we're going to take this hosting service away from you or we're going to take this way of processing payments away from you because he'll have his

own versions and that will shield them from any kind of real scrutiny or criticism but the big one i think that was announced today was the Truth Social platform. Truth Social. Yes. Get ready. Let's just give a real quick background on his. So this is the third in a series. First, it was From the Desk Of, where he would be issuing communications to publish straight from the desk of Donald Trump. And it was a blog and like he just didn't maybe he hadn't heard of those and he thought he was inventing them but that that barely got any attention and so that went away in july this is one i didn't even know about he quietly launched a new social

media platform called getter which really should be the name of uh larry the cable guy so but he went for it g-e-t-t-r and that apparently fell apart which you know he's taking a lot of swings he's just uh letting letting loose and now he's announced his third an app dubbed truth because yeah that the he he wanted he thinks that the truth is i don't know this is pretty in line with his overall strategy of like naming things the exact opposite of what they are yeah right like saying he's a president rather than a despotic fucking imbecile or something wait is donald trump the president uh it depends on which news channel you watch yes because there seem to be competing narratives but like with the truth thing

predictably right posting to the site will be called true thing and fucking each individual post will be known as a truth so i get that they're fully trying to take any meaning out of that word truth by being like yeah i re I read truth to that truth from earlier. Who's your favorite truther? Oh, yeah. Let me some good accounts for some funny truths to follow on truth social. He has trademarked the term truthing and retruth, which is pretty cool. That's nice.

You'd hope that it would be something a little bit more interesting than that. But of course, this makes sense because you say absolute lie and you call that your truth. Yeah. Shockingly, I know this is going to hold onto your butts, everyone.

The project launched a beta and people took a look a little behind the curtains and it was seemingly done as cheaply and lazily as possible. The site's code is a, quote, mostly unmodified version of Mastodon, which is an open source software launched in 2016. And also a band that's very cool. Yes, but anyone can use this. Like, I could use this to launch my own social networking site.

That's basically what they did. They just took that open source software, didn't even make any modifications to it. So it was extremely easy for people to immediately hack into. Although you didn't really need to hack into it. They launched the beta and people could immediately just sign up for accounts with the handles at donald trump and at mike pence and at donald j trump uh so somebody got that one and immediately posted a photo of a pig defecating on its testicles yep that old that old twitter i kind of hate that but i love it but i hate it well it's just kind of hate that, but I love it, but I hate it.

Well, it's just kind of they've nailed the perfect visual metaphor for what is happening here. Yeah. And it's been a common sort of troll reply on Twitter, too, for just like just spamming threads with that image because people get it off of here. But yeah, the it's clear that like everything, just not much thought put into it. It's really about the, I guess, the optics of saying like, this is what I'm going to do. And this is when it's coming out. There might be a beta open for some people like at the sort of end of the year. But the plans are that this thing is launching in 2022. But there's also like really weird guidelines within the website too like the the

slides about like the sort of presentation of the website it's like it's a big tent it's for everyone liberals conservatives independents can all come through but then there's like this fine print that's like truth can like revoke and deactivate your account for any reason without you knowing without you without even us having to explain So don't talk shit on here. You're gone. You're literally prohibited from disparaging the site or, and this is a quote, annoying the site's employees. Yeah. Oh, and that's very annoying.

There was a cartoon on SNL that they took down that was basically about how how disney owned everything like this graphic reminds me of that cartoon yeah just with all the other brands there yeah and just taking everything over the graphic in question has tmtg with like a line to truth social versus and then it's like Twitter Facebook and then in a separate like media content production section it's TMTG plus which competes with Netflix and Disney plus I don't know how to get

the plus is brilliant like Disney plus oh shit come on wait you think so you think so to go Oh, shit. Come on. Wait, you think so? You think so? To go along with fucking Trump flicks. You know, it's all going to be there.

And HBO MAGA. Yeah, that's pretty good, actually. They should have done that. TMTG News is the one that's coming for our ass for iHeart and CNN. That's kind of a flex. Shout out to iHeart. I mean, I think because purely all this, all of these things are just pointing at are like sort of superlatives, like within a given industry. So it's like if it's streaming, you're going to put the streaming people there. And if it's radio or podcasting, then they're mentioning this behemoth company.

So, yeah, we look forward to your network. podcasting then they're they're mentioning yeah this behemoth company so yeah it's uh we look forward to your network although i feel like they're already out there the long-term opportunity tmtg tech stack which just sounds like some words they made up and put in front of him that he was like nice i love a tech stack tech stack yeah yeah like you said they're coming for amazon cloud computing uh and Google cloud. So, you know, they got big, big things. Is it proprietary code for your platform? No, no. I just ripped off Mastodon. Oh, okay. So some real pioneering type shit happening over here. Good to know. Yeah. All right. Let's let's talk about just a little bit of news around the green energy possibilities, how we could possibly fight climate change, make the world a little bit more sustainable.

So, you know, as Congress debated last week whether to pare down the Biden administration's climate proposals and spoiler alert, they did. And spoiler alert, they did. New research has suggested doing so would create far fewer jobs if you pared it down and just kept going with fossil fuel, kept doubling down. For every million dollars the U.S. government invests, solar produces over 2.7 times more jobs than fossil fuels. According to an analysis from two environmental think tanks and labor unions, wind energy spurs over 2.8 times more jobs than the investments in oil, gas and coal. Retrofitting buildings to be more energy efficient creates demand for nearly three times as many jobs. So these are it's it's not a issue of, well, you know, fossil fuels is like the thing that's good for the economy. of, well, you know, fossil fuels is like the thing that's good for the economy. The only excuse that they have for continuing to double down on fossil fuels is that fossil fuels have the money and therefore the inertia to keep them moving in the same direction they've been moving in for a century.

It's just wild that this analysis just negates any argument that would come out of this lobbying side of being like, well, then what happens to all these people's jobs, man? If you get rid of coal, then what happens? And you're like, yeah, there's actually there. Even if those people fucking cleaved themselves like a cell and turned into two people, that person would also have a job. Right. Exactly. That's how lucrative and how much opportunity is there because we have a massive undertaking to get back in here.

But always wonderful having Danielle. Hopefully it comes back. She's working on getting back on as we speak. Momentarily, if we're hoping to be rejoined. But this is the one. Miles and I are full of enough hot air to uh push this thing through to the speak yourself man a real windbag am i right all right so there's a new book from out of iowa called the emerald horizon that's basically about

how the heartland you know where all of amer America's corn and soybeans come from, mostly to feed cattle, to like feed us meat, is headed in a dangerous direction because of centuries of industrialized farming. They basically like raised the landscape, made a eco factory for two crops, and this yielded a pretty profitable system. It's still currently the globe's most productive chunk of land during summer months, but it also just polluted the hell out of their rivers. The Gulf of Mexico, the runoff from Iowa down into the Gulf of Mexico, has created a Connecticut-sized algae bloom that is just a biological dead zone, like everything that swims through it dies. It's also just killing off the, like the thing that they need to grow anything is topsoil, and the topsoil is being leached of all its natural resources, which when combined with the worsening storms from climate change is just heading them in a very dangerous direction.

And this is a good news story. So this is a good news story because a ecologist has written a book where they're like, oh, there's a very simple solution. Oh, thank God. Yeah. So before we came in here, the native people who predominated. Hey, not me, bro. They brought my family over. I didn't come over here, bro. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. When before the colonizers showed up, the native people were they basically interwove fields of corn and squash and beans with lots of trees, like nut-bearing trees that fed them.

And they're pointing out that basically you could just do that again, what I think it's called like alley strip farming or something like that. And you basically have rows of trees in between these fields, which would combat all of those problems because trees, you know, drink up a lot of the resources. They add carbon to the environment, like through leaves that fall down, just like having leaves on the ground, like makes the soil richer. Right. And it's, you know, it's a pretty basic idea that like your landscape shouldn't look like a lunar colony that is only planting corn. But that's like an agricultural parking lot.

Right, exactly. They say in the study, reintroducing trees could bring big benefits. Their roots dig deep beneath the soil surface and fan out laterally, providing an anchor during heavy rain so you don't lose all that topsoil. They suck up nutrients all year long, keeping fertilizer from leaching away and polluting fan out laterally, providing an anchor during heavy rain so you don't lose all that top soil. They suck up nutrients all year long, keeping fertilizer from leaching away and polluting water. Trees shield crops and soil from the wind, which because of the ecological disaster we've created with climate change is going to be more and more important. They build carbon in the soil. And this is an ancient practice known as agroforestry.

Not like agro, but agricultural forestry. Could ultimately be more profitable for farmers than the current corn-soybean rotation in the Midwest. So all they need to do, though, is break out of this capitalist cycle of doing whatever is most profitable for the next quarter. With no view into the future. Right. of doing whatever is most profitable for the next quarter. You know, you need some... With no view into the future. Right. And you need some initial investment into the trees, and then the trees take a couple years

to start bearing the, you know, products that are actually going to make you money, which is where the government should come in and be able to help fund that. But then they have to deal with you know monsanto and massive corporations that profit from just keeping things yeah as is noticing a theme here with a lot of our problems on this yeah there's a solution to all of this it's just up to just up to the forces that have been making money hand over fist for decades now to just switch it up really quick. Yeah.

And break their habits or hoping that a government that isn't completely influenced by outside spending to actually make that a law or something or regulation. Okay. Okay. So that's the good news. bad news is uh let's check in with bill back better where we at miles where we at with that bill you know the carbon tax clean electricity performance program in addition to things unrelated to the you know environment like two free years of community college that those could be related to the environment since you're just educating more people and they might come up with a solution or the solutions that will save our

ass in the future where we at um those are all not in the bill anymore uh specifically the carbon taxes out the clean energy performance program was gone joe bynum was, remember how I was like, yo, two years to tuition free years and community college. Bye bye. So and a lot of people are saying that's what's out for now. Things could change. Things could come back in. We don't know. Things are in play. I think that's a very euphemistic description, considering how we're just allowing Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema and some a few other corporate Democrats to basically just completely flip this thing over. But there are still things that are still in the Build Back Better bill, kind of, a little bit, mostly some of it. The child tax credit extended

only maybe a year or two. Can't go too far out, even though that's like one of the most popular things right now in the United States for many parents. Also, the Affordable Care Act subsidies. Those are in there. Those are still there. OK, that's cool. OK. Paid family leave.

A great one. Joe Biden. And, you know, the idea was, man, 12 weeks of paid family leave. We get it. We're trying to compete with other nations that are sort of on the same level economically and saying yes we can we can do that except now it's only gonna be four weeks oh so what is it now like what what's the standard in america now like that doesn't seem is it just zero yeah probably i mean it depends on your company right or otherwise like hey go on a disability right and then there's either we

also got a home care for elderly and disabled Americans. You're like, oh, yeah, right, right, right. That's a huge cost for people. Like, how can we make that? How can we ease that burden for Americans? The original price tag on their 400 billion that felt about right considering the population. ease this bill that many people have or this huge spend that many people make even though it started at 400 billion down to less than 250 billion and universal pre-k is still there okay but you know it's still up in there it's still up in there you know don't start don't play don't start losing your faith now in the party just because we're taking an ax to all these things that were kind of the big carrot we're dangling in front of voters i do love that no mind i do love the in play and play ball are these euphemisms for you know making it sound fun the just vigorous fucking of the people of this country by the political system yeah we're just playing a game with people's lives all right play ball okay now but yeah and meanwhile you have kirsten cinema out here saying she just flatly just

refuses to like will reject any kind of bill that is going to raise taxes on wealthy people and companies but like kirsten like didn't you vote against the Trump tax cuts or didn't you say you wanted to reverse? I mean, even Joe Manchin is like, well, I think we can I think we can bring some taxes back up. But Kirsten Sinema, absolutely not. She's been telling lobbyists out loud that she won't budge on this. So this now puts Democrats in this position as they try and negotiate this, like where they don't know what they're going to do. You know, what are you going to do now? We have two corporate shills who are absolutely going to take the teeth out of this transformative bill because of their like allegiances to their donors.

And sadly, you know, I feel like the only thing transforming is going to be those majorities in the house and the senate if they completely falter on this yeah and they're also successfully rat fucking like the electoral process right like they yes i mean they tried to they tried to put a bill to a vote or just to a debate on wednesday night just to make voting easier for people the republicans obviously unanimously voted to fucking block it even though this was something joe mansion was saying like hey if you take these things out these things out i bet i can get 10 republicans i can get 10 and cut to you don't have you're holding nothing you're holding a fart and you can't like we'll just and she's back sorry um what's up my uh uh uh cats ate through my it's fine wow but it's literally they can't they will not ever be able to be like oh we'll just let you like be our friends and

the republicans don't care they don't like like us. Yeah. And they tell, well, they tell people like Joe Manchin or have him feeling like, hey, if you, you know, completely have no spine, we might help you out with some votes. That doesn't happen because that's always the deal. It's just the factor of cooperation. Why are we always letting them just be fucking pieces of shit? As it stands, the Democratic Party of now, they very much feel like they need this group of weirdos to co-sign anything they do to make things palatable for Americans. When most people are looking at it and just saying, no, this is just straight trash. But yeah, this is just, you know, we're just seeing a rapid decline, even with Sinema's support. We're just seeing a rapid decline, even with Sinema's support. I mean, the polling is whatever, but she just had a group of veterans that were on this advisory panel that helped her get elected. They just all resigned en masse because they can't believe she's even take our calls anymore so all we have to do is like we can't we can't be we can't have our names as veterans be used to sort of prop up her profile like it feels like she was doing so yeah she's pretty aggressively playing a lot of the people that supported her but i think most politicians

are she really give it i mean i feel like the democrats also like they are playing a game where they're trying to not do the things that are needed because they're worried like they're you know half-stepping it and then they like for instance the the voting rights thing is an existential threat to any sort of progressive policies that uh you know could possibly be pushed through in the near future and we get a like you know kamala harris is just like this is a sad day uh we're gonna keep fighting and it's like but you just the only thing that will work is abolishing the filibuster it's an existential threat to the things you claim to care about but they're just not doing the thing and i think some are made i mean angus king from maine said something along the lines of like i really believe we're

like at this turning point and we have to really make a crucial decision that is going to reverberate for decades to come like i think a very light touch version of me like hey hey hey uh if we don't do something if the whole jig could be up on sort of what this version of a democracy that we thought we were participating why are we just not being pieces of shit yeah well i think but because that's like just sort of the binary you have craven racists on one side and then like these neoliberal people who are like hey i gotta give it up to the corporate donors i'll also pay lip service to social movements that are popular because i've collected all the right opinions but do i have the wherewithal and conviction to actually act

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talk about uh internet service providers which are pretty fucking frustrating but shit uh speaking of jesus fucking christ yeah how so your cats ate through your internet internet wired no i just spectrum is a piece of shit and i paid extra money for them and now they are not servicing me yeah like that you should be i mean i think everybody this is i think this is a common refrain in the in the u.s which is we hate our internet service providers. Yes. And this Squid Game story has been something that we've seen like a lot of headlines around us. I'm like, Squid Game is so popular. It's burning up the internet. There was a story about how a telecoms company was like,

you know, suing Netflix in South Korea because they were saying like, it's created so much more viewing and people are using so much more bandwidth on broadband that they had to sue netflix like this is absurd in the uk they're also saying things like you know something has to be done about netflix their content is creating distraining our internet tubes what are we going to do right and a lot of i think here's the thing if you're someone who isn't really tech savvy like me and you're also just used to regularly being fucked over by an internet

service provider like me that might sound like a realistic explanation but most people who are like experts in telecoms like that's not how it works like just saying this show is probably doesn't give you the right to be like yo we, we're suing you. This is too much. Right. Because they're saying like, you know, this one broadband expert who is talking to the people subscribe to broadband to do things like stream video and it's broadband customers who are requesting all these squid game streams. They are not somehow imposed on ISPs by Netflix. So already like that's not the relationship here. And then on top of it, they already have their network sort of set up in this way to be able to handle when people are a ton of people are using the internet. They just understand that because that's just part of them providing services. They have to be able to provide this service. And, you know, they're already being paid by all kinds of people, whether it's businesses, consumers, etc. So this this for them, the responsibility to meet the demand isn't Netflix's problem. It's the broadband company's problem. Right.

And telecoms are like a I don't know. It just seems like it's the sort of thing that should be a need and not a thing that you can't. Yeah, it should be nationalized. Absolutely. 100%. Because it doesn't make sense. Only because I don't trust the government at all. Right.

Well, at the same time, I think, I don't know, I'd look at this as a utility for sure. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. As a way that needs to be at the very least have some standards and not having the ability to gouge people. Because for the most part, most people like are in a duopoly where they live based on if you want the internet. There typically isn't a whole broad range of people you can get your internet

from. And this whole thing is, it all goes back to this, this trope that basically kicked off the net neutrality debate was that ISPs don't like that other companies are getting rich off of content that uses their infrastructure. The thing is, companies like Netflix already pay a lot of money to make sure that their content can be accessed easily. They like Google, Facebook, all these people, they pay for stuff like billions of dollars on cloud capacity or undersea cables, content delivery networks. They're not just like, you know, logging in on their Netflix computer and then just destroying the earth being like, all right, have at it, folks. Netflix is online. So this whole thing is already being just kind of, you can tell it's being sort of positioned in a way to try and build more momentum towards trying to get other companies to help foot the bill for a telecom's, you know,

operational and construction costs. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's why they are trying to be content companies like Mr. Mercedes. Wasn't that like a show? I think it was somewhat acclaimed. And it was on AT&T. Yeah. They had a pretty solid writers room, though. I'm surprised. Yeah, they were

making moves. Well, we never blame the people that work for the company as that blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's for sure. I think it's just ironic that this Squid Game is already this sort of late

stage capitalism critique. You have internet service providers who are greedy as fuck and already causing problems for people in terms of their ability to connect to the Internet. We're like, hey, we want more money. Yeah, more money. Like, go back in your fucking cave. where whoever handles internet service providers pr for them like saw a trend saw that everybody

was talking about squid game being popular and was just like jump on that talk about how that is taxing like our tubes too much and you know they're being played like a fiddle yeah well i think they look at stats like it's the number one show in 94 countries. It's in millions of homes. But then you lose your argument because like telecoms, people say like, look, a live live streamed event. You might have an argument there because a ton of people are going to be focused on the same bit of content at a very specific time. But with Netflix and streaming stuff, people live in different time zones. People have different schedules. Not everyone says, hey, y'all, it's seven o'clock

on a weeknight. Everybody go to Netflix and stream the show that's already been out and fully released. So there's like a lot of behavioral sort of just data points that suggest like what's your what exactly is your point here but they just recognize that like just all these media outlets were wanted to put squid game in the title of an article like that was getting clicks so they just jumped jumped in there and we're like all right yeah all right real quick let's talk about uh you know rotten tomatoes and dan and Danielle has disappeared again. I think telecoms are onto us. They're like, you're complaining about Trump media network assholes. Yeah, there you go. All right.

But I do want to talk about Rotten Tomatoes as a new culture war battlefield, because that is a story that Fox is trying to tell. that is a story that Fox is trying to tell. And other, I guess, Fox and The Federalist a couple weeks ago had this story about how cancel culture has created this massive gap between audiences and critics. And they pointed to the Chappelle special and a documentary about Fauci and we're like the Chappelle special has is in the 30s in terms of critical approval but it's like 98% when it comes to audiences and the stories just completely ignore that these are artificially inflated numbers because the right and like conservative media outlets get people to create these massive numbers in order to create these stories essentially like this vice article about it points out that so when you look at the reviews for uh the chapelle special there are 2 500 reviews from audience members which netflix shows

don't usually draw that kind of reaction from the public at all the most popular show in netflix's history squid game has just over 1 500 reviews so it's it's right them you know some fucking facebook group being like hey it's important to jesus that you go to this page and click that you like this special and hate this other one and you know they're right jesus approved yeah well it's uh i mean even saw yesterday or on wednesday when the walkout happened there were like some confrontations where like a couple just smooth brained, like people had signs like to, I guess, counter protest the like trans employees and allies that had walked out just having signs like Dave is funny. Right. And you're like, wow.

Nailed it. Nailed it, guys. Yeah. You seem really passionate about this or just a real low energy troll job. And what could be, what couldn't be more low energy trolling than just merely going to a website, clicking something and being like,

look at that. The people have spoken. Yeah, exactly. But that's, you know, it's the, like been a long-term trend.

Like if you look at audience numbers for basically any movie that has a negative connotation when it comes to conservative media commentators, any Marvel movie that stars anyone who's not a white man, it will have an artificially negative review. And same with the star wars movies right yeah because i mean we saw people like brigading and those things like just to be like i hate that this woman is on screen yeah and she's asian right yeah but hey clearly they're winning with this very uh ineffective strategy exactly all, that is going to do it for us on this Friday morning. Danielle is still off the internet as far as we can tell.

Yep. Hey, I'll tell you where you can find Danielle, though. At Danielle Radford. D-A-N-I-E-L-L-E-R-A-D-F-O-R-D on Twitter. What's the tweet she's been enjoying, Miles? Hey, you know, it's pretty easy. I can just go into the likes and say,

Yo, she liked that one I liked yesterday about the dogs having 20 nicknames. And then it turns into total chaos. There you go. And then another one is, this is from Dark Chic FTF, Sweet Muslim Girl tweeted, If I ate burritos by holding them at the ends and biting into the middle, would you still love me? Well, actually, that would be Justin Bieber or that fake Justin Bieber. Yeah, fake Justin Bieber.

I'd still love you. Eat everything that's shaped like that, like a corn cob. Just see who your true loves are. If you could somehow eat a burrito like a corn cob and maintain structural integrity i mean you can't once you fully you know eat that outside burrito that's like that's the thing holding it together you would have to do it in uh zero gravity outer space i think but oh good point i mean you know that's that's why i am trying to uh court bezzos to get him to fly me into space.

Or what if you like did a canoe style? Just bit the top off and then just kind of getting in there. Just getting in there. And then you got like just a burrito sheet of a canoe. All right. Well, send in your alternative burrito eating styles, folks. Hey, Miles, where can people find you? And what is a tweet you've been enjoying?

Yes. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also the other show, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. A couple of tweets I like. First one is from at Doug J. Balloon, the New York Times pitch bot, tweeting, My toddler asked me, why won't I get a Christmas present this year? And when I told him him because critical race theory destroyed the global supply chain he started crying and one more and i hate to just bring

up another ben simmons tweet but i thought this one was very very good this is from i disrespect liberals at who lisa frm 503 first quote tweeting this nba central that says Ben Simmons is willing to do whatever it takes to get out of Philadelphia and who Lisa tweeted has he tried getting in one little fight so his mom got scared wow classic very well

done alright you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien been enjoying a bunch of tweets. I'm just going to go with this one from Karen Chee tweeted. The biggest lie in movies is that you pick your plus one to weddings. I'm going to four weddings next year and they're all like no plus ones unless we explicitly invited them. Like sheesh. Okay.

So what do I do with this guy I found in route to the wedding who I asked to pretend to be my boyfriend? That is some good movie myth debunking, Karen. Well done. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. And we have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.comcom where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off the information that we talked about today is episode as well as a song that we

think you might want to go check out miles what song do we think people should go check friday so this is a track called almost blue by lucy but there's a space in between all the letters because that's the cool thing to do l L space, U space, C space, Y. And it's like just this super fun tune. But it's wild because it's hard for me to sing the lyrics back because the lyrics are like a lot of chopped up lyrics as a sample. So it's very frenetic. It's energetic. But it's also got soul despite it being like a permutation of another song.

But check this out. Almost Blue by Lucy. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. But we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then. Bye.

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