The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump’s Emotional Support Printer, TV = The New Streaming 04.18.24

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

In episode 1661, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, journalist, and host of The Bitchuation Room, Francesca Fiorentini, to discuss… Trump Has An Emotional Support Aide Who Carries Around A Printer, NPR Is So…Woke? Streaming Is OUT It’s All About F.A.S.T. Now. What The F*ck Are We Even Talking About? “Miss AI” Beauty Pageant Is Just As Dystopian As It Sounds and more! Trump Has An Emotional Support Aide Who Carries Around A Printer 7 Scientifically Proven Benefits of Consuming Good News Good news reports may emotionally buffer effects of negative news stories The Real Story Behind NPR’s Current Problems I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust. Streaming Is OUT It’s All About F.A.S.T. Now. What The F*ck Are We Even Talking About? “Miss AI” Beauty Pageant Is Just As Dystopian As It Sounds World’s first AI beauty pageant slammed as ‘more curse than blessing’ as people claim it’s sign world ‘getting dumber’ The World AI Creator Awards AI-created “virtual influencers” are stealing business from humans Meet Emily Pellegrini, the ‘World’s Hottest Model’ AI-generated models could bring more diversity to the fashion industry — or leave it with less I had my face stolen by AI AI hustlers stole women’s faces to put in ads. The law can't help them. AI influencers are making their secretive creators tens of thousands of dollars a month—now an OnlyFans rival is betting on the lucrative virtual girlfriends LISTEN: Cinderella by Remi WolfSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 334 episode 4 of dernaley's ice guys yeah it's a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america shared consciousness and it is thursday april 18th 2024 yeah hey man yeah hey okay i got it right today it's national exercise day is get to know your customers day third thursday of each quarter actually according to this business association uh national education and Sharing Day. National, hey, shout out Animal Crackers. You know, I fuck with the Animal Crackers. National High Five Day.

National Poem in Your Pocket Day. National Columnist Day, unless you're writing some weird-ass status quo support shit. And National Lineman Appreciation Day. Shout out to the people that keep the electricity flowing so we can deliver such digital goods as this. was the poem in your pocket thing yeah what is that i don't know man it's a national poem in your pocket thing all right is that a poem in your pocket or are you yeah are you just really depressed it just sounds like an excuse for someone to start a really

annoying conversation yeah yeah yeah it's a shares the way poetry brings joy simply by carrying one in your pocket. When you share the poem, you'll bring joy to others. Just by carrying it? You don't even have to read it? I think maybe, because to Jack's point, maybe it's like a bad conversation story. But hey, you know what I got in my pocket?

Oh, hey, happy poem in your pocket, Dad. If you're not doing the thing from Black Sheep or David Spade, it's like, hey, I got something in my pocket here for you. Hold on, let me get it. And you just give him the fucking finger. I got a poem in your pocket and it goes, fuck you. It goes like this. Yeah.

Well, that's no way to treat Robert Frost. No, it isn't. You could start a small fire in your mama's panties. Exactly. Young man, I will rip your head off and spike it onto the floors of a nightmare you couldn't imagine. A lot of good ones in there. Fusey lines from Black Sheep. Wow.

Shout out to that man. My name. Black Sheep. I, sorry, I'm sorry. I suddenly am like 13 years old because that's when I knew all of the lines to that movie. I think I only saw that one once. Sergeant Drake. Black Sheep follow up to Tommy Boy. Tommy Boy's the one. Yeah.

Tommy Boy was the one that was better. That I actually was. We're still 13 at heart. Indeed. Thank you for being on with us. I know. My doctor just said I had the heart of a 13-year-old. That's really good, actually.

So trying to figure out if that's a condition. Well, I guess for the size of my body, maybe not. Were you going to him about pre-ejaculation or something? Yeah. Can't stop these damn wet dreams these wet dreams sir they happen when i'm daydreaming i mean jesus christ well you've got the heart of a 13 year old a 13 year old who huffs glue yeah yeah anyway anyways my name is jack o'Brien, a.k.a. Once upon a time, he talked so fine through the bums of dime. Jack O'Brien, didn't you?

That is courtesy of Hanoramic View on the Discord. Love a Hanoramic View, a.k.a. That just plugs our name into one line. But also, I'm getting psyched to see Chalamet, Dylan. Oh, shit, yeah. I think it's that era, you know? Right. When Bob Dylan, what if Bob Dylan always looked like a little boy? And not just for the first year of his career.

At the heart of a 13-year-old, yeah. Yeah, speaking of. I completely did a 180 on Chalamet. Yeah? You're a fan? Okay, maybe I'll save that i'll save it okay yeah yeah save that for underrated because i can't i can't get over him being looking like a little boy i i do wonder will he always look like a little boy there's been a couple there's dune 2 and i just watched don't look Up and in both films I was like, I can't get over the fact that this is a child. Like he looks 11 years old

and is supposed to be like the love interest of a grown woman. Depends on what you go for. Yeah, I guess so. That's both ways. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray still jet lagged but here holding it down, a.k.a.

Crawling out of the earth. Cicadas got some STDs. A prime year's here, and the time is right for fucking in the streets. All right. Shout out again, Hannah Ramick View. Great to have you back, Hannah. Fucking in the trees. With the. Shout out again, Anoramic View. Great to have you back, Hannah. Fucking in the trees.

With the same, with the prolific pace. Shout out. Yeah. Got it. Man, the cicadas. Can't wait till they cause

zombie fuckmageddon. Yeah. I don't think it's happening in LA. So, Zyke Gang from other parts of, from cicada, cicada nash. Yeah.

Let us know when it hits. Yeah. Miles. Yeah. We are know when it hits. Yeah. Miles. Yeah. We are thrilled, blessed to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer, journalist,

activist, you know, from places like Al Jazeera, MSNBC, the young Turks from the podcast, the bitch ovation room. Yeah. And Piers Morgan.

It's Francesca. I don't have a song. The Bitchuation Room. Yeah. And Piers Morgan? It's Francesca Fiorentini! I don't have a song. I'm tired of singing. I sing all day long to my kid who just wants me to do a different version. And then every time I try to sing and she doesn't like that one,

she's like, no! And you're like, fuck it then. And then I have to guess which song she likes. But she's adorable. Kids are assholes, man. They're adorable assholes. My kids have been roasting me for being in love with my wife. They've been like, you love mommy.

Oh my God. Do you love mommy so much? Oh my God. That's so funny. Fuck you, man. I'd be like, no. I do. That's what I, that's how I play it.

I play it like I'm very aged and embarrassed about a crush that they just found out about. You love mommy. I know, it's super embarrassing. You want to kiss her? Yeah. I'll be like, oh, okay, experiment. Do you want to live in a house where I don't love mommy? Because the vibes will shift.

When you bring your friend's parents over and we'll talk to them, huh? Yeah. See how that goes. But your daughter is a beautiful creature. What a wonderful, you know. Find the word to be. It's weird. Sing it.

Sing it to her. Yeah. No, she's adorable. And when she wants me to sing, she'll move her head like, come on. Like, come on. She just has a look.

I'm trying to bop to something. Yeah, she is. She's like, bop, bop, bop. And so tall. She's like 6'3 already. She is incredibly tall. She's a two-year-old tall. She's 18 months.

We were just hanging out. Hermes and I were just hanging out with Matt and Francesca. I was like, yo, who's that? Francesca's older sister or something? That's the baby day. Okay. oh my god i don't know where those i don't know where those height genes come from yeah amazing all right francesca we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about we're gonna talk about just more things we're talking about we're going to talk about just more things we're learning so we've

already learned that donald trump is not sleeping well at night from his first two days of criminal trial the guy running for president's on criminal trial uh we've also learned a new piece of information that he has an emotional support aid who carries around a printer and this is truly this is like he's really exploring the studio space of like being a dictator like this feels you know right like he's really quirks you hear about yeah yeah exactly i'd get it if it was like um like someone who just holds a leg of prosciutto that i could just sort of eat off of like that's more king like yeah yeah yeah butlike. But a printer? We'll talk about why.

What's being printed. We're going to talk about NPR is apparently too woke. Hell yeah, dude. That's their main problem. Just too woke. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about streaming's out. It's all about

FAST now. and fast is an acronym and what the fuck is anyone even talking about at this point uh we might even get to the miss ai beauty pageant a true sign that the world has come to an end all of that plenty more but first francesca we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are i just had it i've got so okay i look up my search history is basically how many palestinians have been murdered by israel like running toll and or indoor jungle gyms for baby. Like these are, it's just that.

So recently I'm trying to take baby to get close to animals. And so I'm looking up animal sanctuaries or petting zoos, but I don't want it to be like the sad Halloween hayride petting zoo where the animals are like overheated. And you're like, I think I need to call somebody on these people yeah right and so i'm like trying to find like a cute little outing where she can interact with bunnies and animals and it's in the irony that is raising a child in an era of the six mass mass extinction and you realize like we educate kids so much more on like animals than we do on humans.

Like humans are boring. Animals, hey, they make sounds, you know, all these different sounds. No human goes by. So that's what I've been looking at. They are really interesting animals. Like, I feel like I got a new appreciation for how interesting animals are when I had kids and like saw animals again with fresh eyes through their eyes, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw a flamingo the other day and I tripped out. Yeah. Just to show my kids.

I was like, what the fuck is a flamingo? And then I'm like, why the fuck does it stand on one? And then I started answering my own questions, like with my phone. Yeah. They're interesting. Why do they stand on one leg? Conserve energy conserve energy oh because they're so light that's crazy like birds are made of like straw bones yeah their bones are so light yeah yeah yeah that's what we should be using to replace the straws i just may not to be honest i just made that up

i don't know if that's true. Conserve energy. Maybe they stay warm or maybe because it's just comfortable. That is the least satisfying answer from Smithsonian Magazine. Maybe you shouldn't ask so many questions. Yeah. Maybe shut the fuck up. Enjoy the bird.

Yeah. But there's just other people out people out there right different species and like but have personalities and like like to play and shit that's so weird i'm excited to see like a bunny and be like oh bunnies are not cuddly at all they are like the least cuddly they're so soft and yet they do not want to be touched or held that's the beginning like that's when a child loses their innocence when you like the cuddly things you see and you're like, dude, that was the hardest fucking thing to even approach to pet, man. Yeah. Then I was thinking about it and this is crazy,

but I think all animals have different personalities. And I know when I say animals, people are like, yeah, my dog has personality, my cat. But that means species. You mean every year? Yeah. Yeah. Different bunnies have different personalities,

different birds have different personalities different birds of different personalities they're all different yeah look at us oh look at us i'm turning into such an old bird guy i'm just like like i was in my backyard this morning and like a goose that croaked overhead and i was just like a goose hot damn fucking goose like yeah i like heard a goose like fly overhead and it was like doing... A goose? Hot damn. Was that a fucking goose in flight? Yeah, I heard a goose fly overhead and it was doing the... I love that. You know?

And I was just like, damn. There they go. You sipped your coffee? I sipped my coffee. Fly free, my friend. Fly free. Liberty. Oh, yeah.

What's something you think is underrated, Francesca? The new Shakira album. I don't know if anyone's had a chance to hear it. I love it. Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran. And it's not in, there's no English song, so it's great. I do not like Shakira singing in English. There's very limited ya lo lo le lo le.

Ya lo lo le lo le. There's very limited yalo, lale, lale. There's... Yalo, lale, lale! But is there that trademark throat, you know, sort of Shakira Yarling? No, but that's how she sings. Yeah, that's true. But it isn't... There's not a lot of like leaning into the yalo.

Apparently now she's like a little embarrassed about it, but it's really good. There's some tracks that are like a little too heavy, reggaeton, too Karol G. I like Karol G, but I'm like, I don't need Shakira to be Karol G. Right. But then I love like some of the tracks that are just classic pop, like Latino pop. Right. Pop rock Latino or whatever the hell. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. It's so good. It's a really, really good album. Okay. Yeah, I love it. What's a really, really good album. Okay. Yeah, I love it. What's that? What's the album mean? Like women who don't cry?

Women no longer cry. Women no longer cry. And the song with KRLG is called TQG, which means Te Quedo Grande. And in the world, like if you're saying that to a man, like Te Quedo Grande, it means like, I'm too big for you you know just like as a person as this relationship like you've got a ceiling

i'm bigger than you but also probably my vagina is huge giant i'm too big for you but i love that like te quiero grande and so to say that to piqué, which is this all little bit shade on Piqué, which we all knew that Piqué was, like, not, first of all, not that hot. And, like, really? Shakira, Piqué, that long? Anyway. I mean, at the time, you know, because Barcelona was doing so well. He's a soccer star, yes.

Yeah, he's a Spanish defender. But, yeah, like, at the time, because there's, like, at the heyday of Barcelona doing so well, it was like, damn, man, he was Shakira. Like, yo, he can't lose. And then you heard all those stories about how like his dad was like kicking them out of the house and shit. Like when they were starting to separate, you're like, yo, this shit is fucking weird. They were like trying to make out in the basement and the dad was like, get out of here. No, it was like, oh, you want to divorce my son? You and my grandkids fucking beat it.

Oh, okay. Yeah, and you're like, sir. Yeah, tiempo sin verte tiempo sin verte look that up listen to it it's good it's really good okay i like time without green of course you know and i always say that time yeah i'm probably mispronouncing that. I do love. Not verde. Not sin verde. Not without green. Sin verte. Without seeing you. Verte.

Okay. It's time without seeing you. And time without seeing you is also. Without seeing green. Something I say all the time. All the time. What is something you think is overrated? I feel like Matt Lieb's probably done this one before.

I just asked him if he had. But I do think the state of Israel. Oh. At this point. Okay. At this point. I just asked him if he had. But I do think the state of Israel at this point, at this point, a little overrated. I mean, has every right to exist, but in its current iteration, in this current form. Not so good.

No, not so good. Not really a democracy when you are deliberately controlling the population to demographically give Jews a majority. Not a democracy in that case, if you're occupying different territories and you're subjecting people to apartheid and they can't drive on the same roads as you and whatnot. So yeah, I saw this the other day, apparently, of course, because everything is anti-Semitic if you criticize Israel, but we need to make Israel was real. And I was like, that's the realest thing I ever heard. Making Israel was real.

Now, Israel can stay the same. It could be the same name, but I do think there needs to be full citizenship for Palestinians. And I believe in a one state solution. I think that is just physically the only thing that's possible now. And I think it's the safest. I think everyone needs to be together working for the same thing, living and coexisting. Basically, I'm a coexist bumper sticker on a little beetle. Right. Yeah, that's interesting to see like op-eds come out of the Atlantic that are sort of like, we need peace in Israel. And it's like, if people can drop their zero sum game approach to this, I'm like, is this Israel included?

Right. Because I see like there's so much of it. Yeah, that is so like, especially the way the news is described here. It sort of makes it be like, yeah. And then Hamas just basically said they don't want anything to do with like any kind of ceasefire. Or is it that they're trying to actually say these are the terms in which we need to agree on. And because, you know, Israel is very rigid and they're negotiating.

I guess it's not even negotiating. It's just more like, no, this is how it's going to be. You don't want it? Yeah, exactly. You give all the hostages, oh no, we're going to keep killing, we're going to bomb a playground, which they just did the other day and killed 11 kids.

I mean, it's totally, it's untenable. It's untenable for Israelis. It's obviously untenable for Palestinians. But yeah, I love the like, there's more, and we're going to talk about NPR, but I love that there's more nuance here. Right. What is, can we, can we stop being so, yeah,

draconian or beholden to our belief? Like, no, man, you can stop the occupation is what could happen. Also strikes me as so odd when i see people who i'm like how do you i mean like you you do look at the internet right like or do you avoid any footage of what has happened in gaza and yeah you're operating merely from like text descriptions because i don't know how anyone you know you look i mean that's i myself included when you see like image after image of just the carnage especially involving children children and just people in general but like also you know like there's an added layer of empathy as a parent that you see and you try and put

yourself in that position like dude i would fucking crump like how how how how how how how no it's they are insulated from that and and or what they've told themselves is that it's a price worth paying and that's sorry but 40 000 mostly civilians need to die right and then i'm always like what what happens when you are someone who is going to be in need of that kind of empathy and sympathy from the rest of the world. So what, what happens then? And I, that's how you kind of, you have to sort of keep that in mind to be able to be like,

no, all people deserve this level of respect because the second we start saying, well, not this group, then you're opening the door for yourself to eventually be included in that group. When the world goes, well, not that group.

And that's the scariest thing about this whole thing. I was about to interview Ro Khanna for my show and I hope to representative Khanna. And what I want to ask him is his support of Narendra Modi, right. And in India and the, you know, the threat of Hindu nationalism,

Hindu nationalists have talked about wanting to do genocide against, you know, religious minorities, specifically Muslims, Christians, whatnot. You know, this is a green light to future genocides because if an

American ally and Modi is an ally, like it or not, right? Because economically, how could we ever not? And that's Ro Khanna and other semi-progressive, that's their cover for cozying up to Modi. Well, what if Modi wants to do a genocide? He's already been responsible for some massacres. What if he wants, it's like, what is to prevent us? Well, we got to stand with him. Oh, he's nuclear armed. Oh, we're, you know, we support them. It's just like, it's, it is so sick.

And it is, it gets just even worse from here unless we stop it. Hear that Biden? Yeah. No, I don't think he is. Yeah, wasn't he supposed to? I thought we were at a turning point. Weren't we at a turning, turning point. Sir, turn, you, you, we were turning point. Yeah. Ultimatum, sir. Turning point. Weren't we at a turning? Turning point. Sir, we were turning point.

Yeah, Ultimatum, sir. Remember the turning point. Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't eat tomatoes, Jack. What'd you say? Ulta Beauty Shop? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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What? No, that's what? Right. But he did a good job leading with racism. So they were like, I can get behind that. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. But one of the odder details to emerge from his New York criminal trial is that he has a specific aid, former One America News anchor Natalie Harp, whose job is to follow him around with a laptop and printer to provide him, quote, ongoing stream of good news from the Internet in the form of, quote, uplifting news articles, online posts or other materials. Or is this like, you know, this baby tiger and baby goose became best friends?

It might be. I think it's just positive things about him. Or about him, right? I think it's got to be. Like, he doesn't give a fuck about baby tigers, right? Yeah. That's true. If he did, though, I bet his campaign is fucking up because you'd probably grab one of these independents.

He'd be like, well, he loves baby tigers. Right. He didn't do all that bad. But yeah, well, he loves baby tigers. Right. All that bad. Yeah. Yeah. The just an ongoing stream. Like, what the fuck? Like, it's like snacks for a fucking toddler.

Yeah. It's narcissism snacks. Yeah. Yeah. It's like little. Narcissist snacks. Little lunchable gushers for narcissists. Yeah.

Is this because he is not allowed to have a phone, I'm assuming, in the trial and stare down at the phone? Otherwise, he would be absolutely live truthing. What do you guys call it on TDZ? No. Truthing. Yeah. Well, we call it Kirkland Signature Twitter. I love that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. I know. It's not just because of the trial. They said the former reality TV host, or no, sorry, this person, Harp, would accompany the former reality TV host on golf trips

in a cart, quote, equipped with a laptop and sometimes a printer to show him uplifting news articles. So even like would carry a wireless printer. So it doesn't even matter if you're on trial, you're on the you on the greens the links or whatever you call that shit it's their news but good stories so he doesn't like really like when he's tweeting or like doing any of that shit somebody else is doing that for him he just

like doesn't have a device well i'm sure he does sometimes but it's clear like obviously during the trial his account was still posting on truth so and i don't i don't count on him to be like let me schedule these truths so they can be fired off while i'm in the courtroom and he's it kind of explains he's been like firing off like old polls like random like hey look at how much i beat nicki haley by it's like no that's like months ago what are you talking about yeah yeah so i was just cocooned in a like just wreathed by a pile of like eight and a half by eleven pieces of white paper like matrix dot printed article it's like how alex jones has everything laid out in front of him you know it's like oh here's one about how my dick's real big you know yeah here's one about how i'm a really nice guy yeah i the

fragility right yeah this is like if any of us have google searches on our names you know so you know who you are this is like that but times a hundred and you were the president and people somehow still idolize you but i think deep down this is like he knows that he is a massive piece of shit like in just in there somewhere is like you are trash you're garbage and you know that i think at the most basic level right like that i feel like that's where a sucking need to constantly be told you're great or tell yourself you're great has to come from at some basic level. A sucking hole of like, I fucking suck. This is terrible.

Well, yeah. When your dad was a guy who looks like he looked at the Ark of the Covenant for just enough to stay alive. Yeah. Yeah. It probably fills you with things like, you ain't shit, Donald. You know what I mean? And I bet that now he needs little coloring books or whatever to lift him up. My question, Francesca, because you've been on TV, you've read the news. Do you think going from a One America news anchor to human printer is a demotion or promotion?

Ooh. Because I'm used to dealing with the former presidents, I guess. Because One America News ain't real. It's like a 1998 medieval surf. Yeah. I don't know how many. It depends on how heavy the printer is. Yeah.

They got those like slim little Epsons. But if it's like a big um you know that's going to be difficult on the back i think it's a lateral move for sure uh yeah okay we'll call it you but he is like uh oh god i'm blanking on his name now from veep right like he's the yeah yeah he's the right hand like the ego yes Yes, the fluffer. Right. Or she's the fluffer. Ego fluffer. Yeah, the ego fluffer. But also, like, I'm really curious about how cute she is. Because if she's not a 10, I'm like, you know, like, why is she? She must be like a seven. Because if she were a 10, she'd be like out in front speaking for him. But only the sevens like I will print something for you because I am. Yeah, there we go.

See a little. She looks like a normal person. Yeah, right. Yeah, she looks like a normal. She doesn't look like a weaponized the Bratz doll like Alina Haba. Right, right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

She looks like, what's her face that used to be on The Blaze, the blonde lady who would shriek all the time, the racist one. Tomi Lahren. Yeah, Tomi. Oh, my God. What happened to her? She's around. She's around. She's on Fox.

But just not enough. Yeah, I mean, her stock definitely crashed. Damn. You hate to see it. You really hate to see it. Is she still in L.A.? Because I remember people were seeing her in L.A. and just like booing the fuck out of her whenever she pulled up to somewhere. I don't know if she's here, but I think she's just got a better contract.

Meaning she's got better money, probably does less appearances and doesn't have to get like, I don't know. I think she's probably in a better place. Right. Somehow. Yeah. No, for sure. have to get like i don't know i think it's probably in a better place right yeah somehow yeah yeah no for sure it's she's like if um ah she's like if chaya right chick you know what i'm saying if chaya right chick got like an actual cushy job right you wouldn't have to hear as much from chaya right chick she wouldn't be trying to call in bomb threats and shit because she'd be like well i don't call them in i I encourage others to do it. Right. Exactly.

Thank you. All right. Let's talk at NPR. There was a shit storm earlier, I guess it was last week into this week after one of its, uh, former editors wrote an op-ed for Barry Weiss, uh,

on her like free press bullshit thing. Just talking about how NPR like so woke now you can't can't say anything on there yeah no wonder no wonder america has lost trust oh god it's gone down the tubes the listeners aren't even listening berliner because yeah yeah i know uh his main complaints in his op-ed sort of centered around how trump was being covered the stories of stories about russian collusion which yeah i mean i mean i think a lot of media could have maybe done less about that but hey at the time it was like where the fuck is this going maybe it feels bad because it's such a letdown then also saying not reporting enough on hunter biden's laptop

and the fact that they didn't breathlessly report on how COVID came from a Chinese lab. So all of those things are like, it's all, they all just fell apart. Then he also felt that this, that NPR became too devoted to diversity and that suddenly that like marginalized groups had a say in how stories were covered or what, what terminology to use or that he was made to take bias sensitivity training and stuff like that but i think you know the problem at npr is not wokeness or being overly progressive it's look they've been hit with multiple lawsuits from former employees alleging racial discrimination so i don't think it's quite uh quite the maybe environment that you think it is but uh and then

also there was their reporting essentially blows down to like liberal leaning status quo. Yeah. It's not like you're not, you're not breaking the meter for, for progressive ideals or anything like that. Quite the opposite. NPR is notorious for actually retaliating against any staffer who would go to like any protest demonstration for being biased. Right. So that's one thing um which you know you can think a couple ways about that but like it's a massive organization people are allowed to not represent your company and also express their first amendment right they shouldn't be retaliated against at work and secondly i think we remember when the documents the biden documents scandal came out npr covered it exactly and equally as if it were as bad as trump

taking home fucking souvenirs uh you know to do show and tell at mar-a-lago and trade for favors that he kept in a fucking bathroom and they're like well isn't this um how different is this than what uh president trump did you know isn't this the same it's like no it's not the same at all because biden didn't know about them one and number two he wasn't asked for them back for months and months and months so it's so funny npr covers things too evenly to a fault right like they they might be objective but they're not actually being honest. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think objective is a fucking very loose and opportunistic term in their case that allows them to also be like one of the worst offenders when it

comes to just quoting the police, when it comes to any story about criminal justice and. Yeah. Woke sources like the police. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the word is fair. Like they say fair, like fairness, both sides.

I know people that worked on NPR and PBS because they're guilty of it too on projects that they're like, we're going to dig into like, you know, Medicare, right? And really expose Medicare, especially like the scams and how seniors are getting, you know, whittled down, da-da-da-da-da. And then they get told by their editors, like, this is an amazing piece of investigative work that you spent months on. Can you give us the big pharma side of the story? And they'll be asked to straight up incorporate some fucking spokesperson into their piece. So that's what I mean by this, fairness but not actually honest right exactly yeah you get their values just by if you listen to npr like every hour on the hour they're checking in with the markets you know like you ever notice like how obsessed they are with the stock markets and

just like it it really they they just want to be adults. Like, that is their whole thing is like, well, we're serious and we're adults here. And like, their whole sense of humor is just like shitty old person. Like, I'm too serious to actually be funny. They're professional, man. They're professional. They're objective. I mean, look, there's this one excerpt from a former editor because a lot of people started, you know, giving their own stories about what it was like to work at NPR. And with the same thing, it's like the problem is not wokeness. It's the both sides

shit. This is an excerpt from the newsrooms. This is a look into the newsroom during the 2016 election quote. I remember one editorial meeting where a white newsroom leader said that Trump's strong poll numbers wouldn't survive his being exposed as a racist. When a journalist of color asked whether his numbers could be rising because of his racism, the comment was met with poll numbers wouldn't survive his being exposed as a racist. When a journalist of color asked whether his numbers could be rising because of his racism, the comment was met with silence. In another meeting, I and a couple of other editorial leaders were encouraged to make sure that any coverage of a Trump lie was matched with a story about a lie from Hillary Clinton. Another colleague asked what to do if one candidate just lied more than the other.

Another silent response. Yeah. So stupid question, man. Why are you asking that? We don't care about that. We just care about the appearance that we are being fair because there are a number of poc-led shows um that do feel a little bit like explaining why something that isn't problematic is problematic to a white liberal like it is right it is the it is a little bit sort of yes smug and scoldy that even me who like i am a lefty but i will listen to npr sometimes and i'm like yo maga you know i'm saying like i get it because it's obnoxious there's something obnoxious about it it's it's identity politics sometimes i'm not saying all times that can be stripped of the power dynamics the radicalness what makes identity politics tight um started by black feminists but but this person is seeing a couple of shows which represents a more diverse perspective and suddenly thinks that like we've all gone woke when i am assuming that those

lawsuits are because the people actually making decisions about which shows get green lit, which shows get renewed, who are the hosts. Those people are probably all white people. Right. Yeah, sure. Sure. And yeah, I think this is, it feels like one of those things too, where they like when, when they're complaints, like we aren't talking enough about the Biden crime family or Hunter's dick. And you wrote it. And it's like the fact that those are his pieces of evidence of like stories that got away that like the NPR didn't cover enough. Like those are your show.

No fucking stories. And the reality is that they do like they do cover them. Look, we're in the midst of like no one's actually covering the fact that like the impeachment inquiry is based on nothing. It's based on absolutely fucking nothing. Where's the round the clock coverage of that? Right. And then, you know, because NPR is the, it is the tip of the, why don't we listen to the racist spear in media. They are the ones who are like, they were probably the first ones after 2016 of like,

maybe we just need to reach across the aisle and like hold hands with the Klan. You know, like that's like, what are we getting about, you know, working class white people, which is a continued myth about the Trump voter who is not working class. They are very much middle to upper class business owners, got them PPP loans, et cetera.

Taking jets to the Capitol on January 6th. Like, yeah, we see it. One million percent. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, like there is, there is something to talking about just sort of like the post summer of 2020 diversity initiatives that were going around that did or didn't like, and what they did or didn't achieve, but not in the way that this like aggrieved dude is doing it and like and it's just like yeah come on yeah but hey anyway but that's the thing you know it's it's again the reaction to dei the reaction to when any black or brown person gets any kind of a show or anything, it's like the answer isn't fewer DAI programs. The answer isn't fewer. That's where corporate media is headed now. It's like,

well, I guess we should just do fewer things. Oh, we already have a black. That's where everyone's now going. But the answer is actually we need to radically reshape all of these industries. We need to reshape, you know, if it's like affirmative action, we need to reshape all of higher education. What about, you know, let's talk about real reparations now. Let's talk about a third reconstruction. Let's talk about Medicare for all. Let's do universal programs that are far more radical that will, by the way, help black and brown people and working people more than anyone else. Like the answer isn't to recoil but so we're in this like we're in this backlash moment but it's a backlash to some shit

that was already like to surface like wasn't actually getting to the heart of what we need to do yeah did you see when charlamagne was going off on in the daily show like one of the worst pieces i had seen talking about like what is dei And you're like, the thrust of it was coming off like a Fox News piece rather than what the real substance of those criticisms is, is that too many place, 99.99999% of businesses took DEI as just a box they had to tick. That was it. And or like, hey, we got the classes done rather than like to your point talking about real systemic overhaul like like actually getting to what is causing all this not be like oh man it's that we didn't have classes about microaggressions that will solve the micro we put it on you to learn it's your fault you're you need to do the learning and uh we're not going

to make any changes and it's been i, I've been covering this a little bit because Stephen Miller is like, he's got his like America first fucking law firm that's going to defend white people from so-called anti-white racism. And they're like actually having success like getting federal funds removed from like specifically to help out black farmers.

Like real shit, like real, real fucked up shit. Which makes me, it's's like what do we do we have to fight to defend these programs but also we can't have anything nice because white people will always think it's a hit against them that they're always that they're losing out so it's like how do we have programs that are universal so you get buy-in from the racists but that they stealth actually help out people of color you know what i mean like exactly like that's yeah that's how it has to be done so like elegantly and in this way where it's like it's like you're trying to put a like a shark to sleep or something you know

just touch that weird spot on their head and then let the fucking equity flow and then they won't realize but it's like wait, wait, why do they get it? Because we still, it's always, why do they get it? And it's like, there's no, it never starts with an actual self-assessment or realization or ability to say, I understand what the advantages are. So someone who needs to be lifted out of poverty, I understand why I am not living in poverty.

That's, but you can't, they can't seem to cross that river intellectually and that's really because this has got real deep but that's really because we haven't had that you know as uh william uh reverend william barber the third always talks about that third reconstruction that full coming to jesus moment about slavery and jim crow in this country like we still don't and we're so scared of that conversation. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break because I can't wait to find out what fast is. I'm sure we planted that seed at the top of the show and everyone's like, what's fast? What does it mean?

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And we're back. And yeah, streaming is out. All the streamers, they tried. They got beat by Netflix. They're all giving their content back to netflix yeah private equity firms private equity firms they all tried you know they they thought all these all these companies thought the future of entertainment was the

unsustainable business model that is streaming and look at us now but yeah i mean like we've talked about how streaming apps just flooded our attention spans like more shows than like we know what to do with and it's to the point where i'm so overwhelmed i can barely keep up so i've basically gone inert i'm like watching shit from the 90s because i'm like yeah dude i don't there's a what there's a there's a there's a samurai anime there's a samurai anime. There's a samurai show. There's a future samurai show. But not that one. The other one. I'm like, there's too many things.

A similar thing happened to me with all the fucking Marvel movies. Like there were just too many too soon. And I had to get off the train after like Iron Man 3. But many other consumers, I think, feel the same way, it seems, especially when you consider how a new category that has emerged, fast, free ad-supported streaming TV. Those are places like Tubi and Freevi. They're basically what old traditional TV channels used to be, like always on with ads here and there. And you can basically just like watch whatever's on, no rewinding or anything like that these services are getting more watch time than peacock uh is or max is or paramount plus at this point what and it turns out what we're just

back to fucking tv channels like where you have no control and now disney has realized this uh and based on reports they are also in like their rev revamped Disney Plus app that's going to be coming out. They are going to be putting on these always-on channels. Free ads. I guess, for lack of a better word, Disney channels. Well, I kind of love that. Yeah, I mean, can I watch episodes of old reruns of Avonlea? That old weird piece?

Man, there's a lot of weird shows I used to watch on there. So it is linear. piece the man there's a lot of weird shows i used to watch on there so it is linear like you you don't get to choose what you watch and then have ads like stream during the watching it it's actually like you just click on an app and see what they are streaming at that it'll be like the pixar channel and you might just you might have come in on the middle of toy story 4 you know what i mean yeah or the ads like there'll be breaks yeah interspersed potentially yeah uh like that part isn't clear but when you see that on these other you know these other versions yeah there's definitely some ads that they just use to kind of punctuate the stuff too

or like there's like a pre-roll ad or stuff like that so it's just like wild to me that like we're basically back at fucking linear tv channels like the future was the past I can't wait to put my kids into our own assholes my kids can't even understand the concept of linear of like

catching something that is on and not being able to like stop it and just like save it for later or start from the beginning you know Tebow was actually pretty tight guys I never had one not being able to like stop it and just like save it for later or start from the beginning or, you know, like, it was actually pretty tight guys.

I never had one, but I always thought that was great. The amount of cops that I had on my DVR. I am ashamed to say. Cause I, yeah. Cause I knew there were some good ones. There were like ones that for me had such comedic value that I'm like,

yo, you have to watch this one. This person like was drunk as hell, tried to run back to their apartment and pretend to be sleep and like that's good and then their roommates like the cops came and their roommate was like oh yeah she just came in and she was like the the girl was looking at her friend she's like fool why are you lying fool and her roommate was like fool just hit her with one fool like this yeah and then an entire conversation of them just like back and forth yeah but it's still a cab all day but anyway but i i think of it like this too because like with my son getting like you know not definitely

not like to tv watching age but i'm like i part of me wants to be like i don't want him to know like in the house that we have like on demand kind of content like i grew up with like having like my four vhs tapes and i was at the mercy of whatever the fuck was on because i feel like with on demand like it narrows the scope of what you actually interact with if it's always going to be like whatever you're interested in i don't think that's bad but i also developed like weird niche tv interests because i was like well what else is on and that's why i started fucking with like the history channel and i think eventually honestly led me to wanting to be more interested in history even though it wasn't even what i was

looking for was teenage mutant ninja turtles well i think there's i think there's i'm super fascinated by that like first of all i do look i hate sitting there i'll do this especially when i'm alone i'll be like all right i'm just gonna find somebody to watch and it no it takes me like 15 20 minutes and i'm just like fine i just want a documentary just get all the documentaries in one place and i just end up watching bourdain but like you know and then but you know there is something nice to flipping and seeing if you want to stop and then being done with it. And, but I agree with you that like being able to have all of the entertainment at your fingertips, there is no quality control nor limit,

especially if you're young, it is just, Oh, you, it is endless. Yeah. There is no like bum, bum,

bum, bum, bum, bum, sesame streets over, you know, and you're like, fuck,

now I got to watch McNeil-era news. In my day, I'm like, all right. Saturday morning cartoons ends, and now suddenly I'm watching Jerry Springer. I remember golf would come on suddenly on a Saturday. But then that was your cue to get

the fuck out of there, go outside and play. Yeah, because we've rang that one dry and now uh on with my day and i know i sound like i'm getting out of my rocking chair to fucking to scream about this but like at the same time like i i i like there is like to your point i think every person can identify this especially when you're about to sit down to eat like my food will go fucking cold trying to figure out what i'm gonna stream versus like in the in the olden days you just put on like man comedy central man i bang with whatever's gonna

be on comedy central there's so there's two types of people though and my husband matt and i are the two times i am impatient and i don't care about watching anything enough right uh i am hungry so i will literally finish my meal three minutes into whatever we're watching i will keep eating matt is the most precious ass can he will stop chewing when the commercials come on because it's not entertaining enough he will stop and then as soon as the thing starts then he'll start going it's like the most i don't know jack what are you are you are you gonna wait to find that i don't i don't watch i don't watch things while i eat i try and like do

one he's an adult we're still present we live in the moment i'm so like i just i don't know i i have this concept called mindfulness that i uh tried to have in my life no i don't know we just like are you in love with your wife too yeah i don't i mean i don't know when sports is on for sure i will stand in my kitchen stand and eat while watching the sports like in the other room right but that's that's about it and that that really is sports is the only experience that my kids have with you know the randomness of live tv and they fucking love like my six-year-old is obsessed with ads like he just wants to see the ads like he runs in when there's a timeout like he runs in and watches the ad he's like yeah he's the one who the other day asked me why so many people love sky rizzy the plaque psoriasis medication because he keeps seeing ads for it in nba basketball games dad why do so many people

like sky rizzy so yeah he uh so i don't know it's like they're they're weird they're like total total like photographic negatives of what i was like at their age i also i like in talking and thinking about this story it made me remember how much tv edits of r and p PG-13 rated movies were like a huge part of my childhood. Ugh, yeah. Like Jaws. I saw Rambo when I was like five because it was on TV or something, you know? But like it wasn't like it had the good stuff cut out of it. So Fast is just, what is Fast?

It is an acronym? Yeah, it just means free ad supported TV. So Tubi, like, youi, like the Fox-owned... Just TV. Yeah, but like the digital versions. But here's what's good about... You get Freebie on Amazon Prime or whatever, Tubi. Right, and what's good about Tubi, and I will say, and some of these other smaller companies,

is that whereas now Comedy Central during the day or a lot of these networks, they're just playing old, the same movies over and over and over again with tons of ads, like six minutes of ads or something. Yeah. And they all of course are like timed and whatnot. But like my friend's documentary was on TV. Right.

Like people like really good shit again. Other shows. Yeah. That got, I like watching docs and like often you just not going to find some good stuff. And so some things that might've been on Vice or might have been an international thing, those are going to be on the streaming services or not fast services, which I like.

I love that they have to call it that, though, to act like there's a new kid in town. There's something new. Tech world always needs something new. It's like, no, man, fucking TV channels. That's what we're talking about. You know what that is. Y'all were there. Y'all were there.

TV channels is what we're talking about. That's it. Oh, you're talking about fast. This new technology is too fast and too furious. Oh, shit. And watch, there would be a Fast and Furious TV channel probably because they got enough fucking movies to get you through the day. I haven't seen a single one. I haven't seen a single Fast.

I know. I haven't seen a single Fast and I have only seen maybe one Marvel. Good for you. I mean, you're an adult. Also, you're an adult. So congratulations. Yeah. Wait, so what was the experience?

Like when the first Fast and Furious came out, what were you doing? What was that, like 99 when the first one and furious came out what were you doing what was that like 99 when the first one came out uh yeah about to go to no i was about to graduate high school yeah okay but i'm not gonna oh no 2001 2001 i mean 9-11 happened so sorry i was busy protesting war and shit but, get in your fucking Mitsubishi. I was protesting against the 9-11. I was like, I, for one, not a fan of this 9-11. Two stars. Yeah. I think I was watching Loose Change on a loop in 2002. There you go.

All right. We should talk about the other new kid in town and that is miss ai a new beauty pageant that is just as dystopian as it sounds for anyone who ever complained that the terminator franchise didn't feature enough swim swimsuit competitions that we now have miss ai the world's first ai beauty pageant wherein ai generated models will be judged on looks poise and answers to questions and also earn points for technical skills and social media reach so it almost sounds like battle bots for like ai programmers yes trying to create with curves yeah trying to create like a the best battle bot to like get nerds to jack off to and like pay them money this is what's so wild about this like no industry is safe not even the industries that are not actually industries like being a fucking influencer right you know and i

look i was just randomly on instagram and i saw this blonde chick in like a runner's outfit who is this chick it's like i love i don't know i think runners have like runners are the best bodies let's be real it's like okay she's gorgeous. She must be like some kind of Olympian. Nope, she is an AI-generated model who has more followers than me and real, likely real people in her comments going like, you're so beautiful. You're really, I love this one.

Ooh, night on the town. I would like you to take, I would like to take you to Dubai and show you a real good time. Yeah. The real question is, who is following and who is commenting and who is listening to these AI models? And that is men. And as men, I just need to ask you. Come on.

Not men. Why are you the way you are? Oh, Jesus. ask you come on how why are you the way you are oh jesus because because we're we're horny fuck zombie cicadas we are that's right they i think so you're a plague i think there's a mold that has attacked us and uh created an amphetamine that replaced our patriarchy yeah where you you don't need to develop any other interests except to demonstrate your horniness on a very consistent level like that's gotta that's gotta be kind of tight no that oh like that is what's so this story when i first started i was just like whatever like fuck off like but you know like another ai story is just like it feels like

there's a new story that's just like the latest ai blank a new someone's releasing a movie starring an ai actor and i'm like yeah it'll suck and like let's move along but this also like the place that we're actually seeing ai replace people is in like models and influencers like there's a whole competitor so this is being put on this beauty pageant is being put on by a company that is a competitor to only fans but that allows people like ai models to come through and like has had a ton of success doing that so basically it's the same thing like we we've talked about like in looking back at the early days of the internet like a lot of the first websites first communities first like you know advances in streaming technology was all around porn you know and that like tends to be pornography and, you know, things like that tend

to be at the forefront of technological advances. Like the reason we don't have HD DVD and we have Blu-ray is because the industry, now we're going with Blu-ray. Yeah. Yeah. And this is, this, it feels like that is where AI is like making its inroads of actually convincing people these are real people. So in the world of modeling, people are already losing tons of jobs in the world of modeling. Models report seeing themselves in an ad, but they've pasted somebody else's nose in there. So that like they're a blend of other people's fate, like their and like another person's appearance or, you know, there's this one wild story

where an influencer was on her honeymoon and like started getting messages being like, yo, you're in this like wild ED ad talking about how your partner has a small member and like has been struggling with ED for years. And it was, yeah, like somebody had like kind of taken her likeness and, you know, blended it enough to have plausible deniability.

And yeah, it's- No, this has happened so fast. I know, exactly. And there are like no breaks on it. And it's terrifying. And it will be replacing, I mean, a lot of our jobs. I mean, this is the whole thing. It's like, how many hours of content

have you guys put out there? How easy would it be? You could train 7,000 models right now. Yeah, it could just be listening. And it is, right? Listening and then spit out an episode based on, I mean, it wouldn't be a good episode. Yeah, it would suck.

They're trying. It could be like when you guys both had a hangover, like, you know, Jack had a newborn, you know, it would be that kind of. Yeah, baby hangover. Yeah, when I smoke the chronic, it gets me so turnt up, bro. There it is.

But you know what? Like, listeners would know the difference, but, like, executives might not know the difference. Yeah. Executives are going to be like, oh, are you kidding me? This is sick. It's content at the end of the day. I mean, but I do think especially especially modeling that is so sinister oh yeah especially when they can do something like oh yeah we need uh we need to put like a model of color

here yeah yeah let me cook one up boom there it is yeah and guess what we don't need we don't need hair and makeup we don't need photographers we don't need the the editing of the photos after the no we could we could we could just well that's what's so interesting. I mean, it's like, we should have seen the writing, damn it. You know, but like, even, even like if you've ever seen like photo retouching, right. Photo retouching ultimately actually kind of like kills the photography industry more broadly because when you create a beautiful, like a, it's lighting, right. It's all about lighting. It's all about everything. And like, but if you just retouch, you don't need any of that good lighting. Just fucking.

Look, I see enough information in pixels in here and I can make, I can manipulate the fuck out of this image. Absolutely. So it's, but it's, I don't even know what to say anymore. I am like terrified and upset. And I'm just like, when do we get universal basic income? Right. And, or when is this universal basic income? Right. And or when is this illegal to do? Right. I feel like or like there needs to be a serious campaign where like

influencers, like human influencers begin to understand what's at stake for them. They're like, yo, all your shit could go away. Yeah. Because they will just cook up somebody that looks like you and then start promoting that account. And then guess what? You might be back at whatever gig. This is the whole thing. It's like, I'm a comedian and all we're supposed to do is put out clips online, clips,

clips, clips, nonstop. And we weigh all of our rights to those clips when we post them on, you know, on Instagram, on Tik TOK and whatnot. So,

and that shit is just feeding back into some sort of AI machine that people are like speculating on and getting rich off of to put us out of work. Yes, the jokes will be shitty, but so are all the clips that are online. They're just crowd work of people like, oh, you fuck? Okay. Right. Right. Hey, man, what's up, man?

What's your mix, dude? Yeah. You're a Bayesian, right? I knew it, bro. What do you do for work? Oh, wait. I already know what you do for work bro you're an engineer right exactly bro exactly what's your last name yeah two of the judges of the

ai contest are already ai model are like ai models that were like aren't real people they it's they will be doing reality like you know reality shows will be doing reality. Like, you know, reality shows will be a bunch of AI. Right. Because, like, I remember, like, when Michaela first came out. You know, Michaela, that purely computer-generated influencer, like, on Instagram. Yeah. And that was sort of, like, the beginnings of it. And when that account got bigger and bigger, I was like, oh, boy.

Like, we really don't give a fuck. Like, people just want to see a robot drinking a green juice on fucking Melrose that's it um and like a lot of people were like people were getting hired to write the content we should just play this clip though of like one of the like one of the proponents and judges human judges of this AI beauty pageant because the way they're even trying to like frame this is just so fucking disturbing yeah ladies good to see you both thanks for taking the time sally ann what do you say to people like the team that it's a really bad idea well i've been a pageant judge for the last 10 years and what i've learned is that modern

day pageants are not about perfection it's about diversity it's about celebrating the whole woman and what i'm looking for in this pageant is not perfection. This isn't a boobs and bum and 70s pinup pageant. We're looking for as real a person as we can possibly get to be a role model for the AI industry and to change that perception of AI women. That's even worse. That's like even worse.

It's fucking sinister. That's even worse that's like even worse it's fucking sinister that's even worse i would rather you be like oh yeah tits on this one pretty good you know like symmetrical yeah exactly rather than being like i don't know i thought their thoughtful answer to how to solve the israel palestine question was like really spot on right no right yeah watch one of the contestants will be like an idf model or something and they're like yeah man like we got all kinds of people coming but the idea too that it's also meant to sort of obscure people's perception be like no these are like women man that like we're trying to like to perfect you and like they have truly uh computer generated

potentially unattainable characteristics physically, but we're going to hold those up to say, these are role models for the right. Like, come on, miss me with that. That's not what this is. Yeah.

The person that they're like debating in that clip, like who speaks after them, like made a face that was just, they were like, Oh, okay. Like they, yeah.

The whole woman to celebrate the whole woman. She just went like, she, okay. Like they. The whole woman. It's to celebrate the whole woman. She just went. Like she might have just made a fart noise with her mouth. This is what I like to say. I mean, I used to say, you know, I think I used, I was like working on a bit about this, you know, but like the future they say is going to be female, but we all know the future is robots. Right.

There you go. Perfectly. Yeah. Future is not female. It is robots. It is. i hope they become sentient because then we can organize right right exactly this is the first time that like one of these ai stories i'm like oh yeah they can do the thing they're saying this will do which is full

horny guys who will pay them money can you make make the most realistic video game characters that people want to fuck? Do you guys know how actually resource-intensive AI is also because of the processors? They need fresh water. To keep those things cool. To cool it down.

What the fuck? You want to feed your AI dirty water? It actually has to be fiji it will freak out if you don't yeah yeah yeah weird dark we got it all it's like look you want to chase money through the crypto that's super resource intensive or do you want to fuck a fucking phantom person emily pellegrini one of the hosts or one of the judges of this contest, who is a made-up robot. And, like, they won't tell anyone who their, like, programmer is. Is that the woman on the right is made up?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Lord. Wait, you mean, yeah, you're talking about in this, yeah, panel of four people? No, no, no. No, no, no, no. Not in the video. In the panel below of the different hosts.

Like, the one with the pink hair and the one on the very right are both yeah a the one on the left who kind of looks like Lady Gaga yeah yeah huh the pink hair

yeah different era though Lady Gaga should too all right Francesca what a pleasure having you as always on the show thank you

where can people find you follow you hear you all that yeah listen to the bitchuasion podcast wherever you get your podcasts or watch it live Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, 1 p.m. Pacific, 4 p.m. Eastern. On YouTube at Franny Fio. That's where. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

It's just a tweet, and it is my friend Raf Shimonov who tweeted, quote tweeted, Lahav Harkov, who is, and is, let's see, what is in their bio, senior political correspondent with Jewish Insider, and a proud Jew and Zionist, obviously not a problem to be a proud Jew, but you know, this is on a day that again, Israel bombs 11 and kills 11 children at a playground. I love living in Israel. Not even hundreds of missiles can get us down. I took my kids out for an activity in a strip mall and Israelis are full out forced in for shopping, eating in restaurants. Kids are having fun like a regular afternoon. We love life, uh, Israeli flag. And he quote tweeted with just a still image from a zone of interest where all the kids are like in the pool and they're having a great time. And just on the other side of the wall is Auschwitz. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not enjoying it. I guess I just think it's poignant. No, it's poignant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I saw below that tweet. Someone replied.

It's like, also, we have the best memes. Right. And I was like, oh my god y'all please can we get me out of here yeah uh miles where can people find you is there a work media you've been enjoying uh you can find me on uh app based platforms at miles of gray if you like the nba check out miles and jack i'm at boosties and if you like 90 day fiance check me out on 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra don't have any works of social media that i like because again every time i turn that shit on i'm like no i'm good i'm good i'm good but again you heard of conan o'brien though no who's that oh man he's this guy who was on Hot Ones. Oh, my God. Hot what?

You don't know Hot Ones, dude? No, man. Wait, are you serious? Bro, I told you. Do you know about video? I know about TV channels. Do you know about Hot Ones? So it's like a TV channel, but it's like the only one you need to know about because they

eat hot wings and answer poignant questions from a talented interviewer. Hot ones. Yes. Hot ones. I know that. I know that. I know that. Yep.

Okay. Oh, also, is that what you're enjoying is Conan's? That was an earlier one that I enjoyed. Okay. I like this tweet from Josh Gondelman at Josh Gondelman tweeted, Stan Van Gundy would crush in a local furniture store commercial.

And that's a very NBA-centric tweet, but he would kill it. Oh, man. Speaking of NBA-centric tweets, I think you should zip line tweeted a playoff cut of a bunch, just like NBA basketball highlights mixed with I think you should leave and Tim Robinson things that I really enjoyed, but that won't be my thing because you just kind of have to see it

the tweet I've been enjoying druthers haver at 6th grade forever tweeted referring to non boars head stuff as well turkey at the deli well turkey that's so good give me like a half a pound of the well turkey

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And our footnotes Where we link off to the information that we talked about In today's episode as well as a song page and our website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do you think you might enjoy uh god man i got a couple i've got a back catalog here to get through uh this one is going to be a track by the artist remy wolf r-e-m-i-w-l-f it's called c's called Cinderella. This track, you know, it's just got that, like, youthful kind of revisiting soulful R&B kind of funk track

but with a modern twist. And I think it's dope. Her vocals are great and the instrumentation, the production is fantastic. So I think you'll enjoy this. This is Remy Wolf with the track Cinderella. Alright, well we will link off to that in the footnotes.

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