The Daily Zeitgeist - Trump’s Shrinkage, How Italians Stay Handsy In Covid 6.3.21

Episode Date: June 3, 2021

In episode 922, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Pod Yourself A Gun co-host Matt Lieb to discuss Trump's blog, the remains of children buried a former B.C. residential school in Canada, Fauci...'s leaked emails, the future of European kissing and hugging, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump blog page shuts down for good Remains of 215 children found buried at former B.C. residential school, First Nation says Pressure mounts for Pope to apologize for church’s role in residential schools ‘Disgrace’: Indigenous leaders blast Catholic Church for silence on residential schools Canada-wide search urged as children's remains found Sir John A. Macdonald statue quickly removed after Charlottetown council decision Calls grow to rename Ryerson institutions across Ontario Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement NDP criticizes government after family of residential school survivor denied compensation Ottawa spent $2.3M on court battles with St. Anne's residential school survivors Government preventing full truth on residential schools to surface: commission It’s time to bring our children home from the residential schools Separating children from their parents, the Canadian way Trudeau government appeals ruling on compensation to First Nations children Statement from MPP Sol Mamakwa on Kamloops Residential School Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in this world’ How Will Europeans Kiss in a Post-Pandemic World? LISTEN: Seu Jorge And Almaz - The Model (Kraftwerk) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 187, episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday,
Starting point is 00:02:24 June 3rd, 2021. My name is jack o'brien aka kicked off a train because i'm a pain jack ob better wear your mask uh that is courtesy of the official dickhead in reference to uh miles i don't know if you heard but i tried to pawn off a story about me refusing to wear a mask on Amtrak yesterday as being somebody else. Going in Pittsburgh? No, this was Amtrak going down the surf liner. Oh, okay. Got you.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, yeah. Wait, and you tried to pretend that wasn't you? Yeah, but I mean, I think we all know my version to wearing masks. You're like some guy. Yeah, some guy was really on on one i'll tell you what get a little of the sixers man anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray yes it's miles gray aka legendary wrestler chugentude guerrero uh i just had to come up with that right now thank you to uh everybody i saw some
Starting point is 00:03:26 some good ones in the discord i'll get to those for sure but uh yes from my own brain today miles we are thrilled to be joined uh in our third seat fortunate to be joined by a very funny comedian you know from good mythical morning star wars show he is the co-creator of Newsbroke and the host of the podcast The Frotcast, which is a very funny show that Miles and I often quote to one another. Yep, in private. And Pod Yourself a Gun, which Miles
Starting point is 00:03:56 and I have both been on. He is the hilarious and talented Matt Lieb! Yo! What up, what up? Matt Lieb, aka matthew lieb aka matthew lawrence lieb those are my names uh who's lawrence a grandfather i think well it's like uh there's it's the middle initial grandmother's name is is a is a great grandfather who's named jerry lawrence right yes you're named after your parents yeah i'm named after matthew lawrence yeah and my famous brother
Starting point is 00:04:32 you know from boy meets world yes yes he was the boy who was brothers with the guy who met the world right which is a famous david bowie song so you guys, you quote the broadcast in private. I need to hear more about that. I mean, look, you guys go wild on there. Yeah, yeah. Someone named JJ. Yeah, give it to her, JJ. It's more the voice of it that we...
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah, give it to her, JJ. Yeah, there's an old joe synclitico bit uh good times yeah times anyways i'm happy to recommend it because we love y'all's humor and if you're a sopranos fan you're doing yourself the biggest disservice by not listening to pod yourself a gun because you gotta go yourself again love the show and y'all love the show yeah and even if you're not a sopranos fan check it out you might enjoy our recaps of a show you've never seen watch along or do a rewatch yeah i mean if you're not a sopranos fan you're also missing out you're
Starting point is 00:05:35 doing exactly massive disservice so or if you just want to like play it in the background you don't even have to listen to it i just want to get those download numbers up right just put it on silent join the patreon never listen to a single bonus like just you know help me help me yes help uh we have another two days in a row we're on a streak of uh people who are recently engaged uh congratulations sir is that something that's public? Am I allowed to say that? Oh, yeah, that's public. I mean, you guys are both public figures. We're both public figures. We're both very, very famous,
Starting point is 00:06:12 you know, equally so. Equally, we have the same amount of Instagram followers. She has like 50, I think she has like 50,000 Instagram followers and I have 6,000 that I'm kind of like,
Starting point is 00:06:24 you know, part of the marriage contract, I think is going to be that she has like 50,000 Instagram followers and I have 6,000 that I'm kind of like, you know, part of the marriage contract, I think, is going to be that she has to split her followers with me. Like there needs to be follower equity in the relationship. Francesca Fiorentini is my fiance. I believe this is the first time two of our guests have gotten engaged to one another. Because of the show. Yeah. Because of the show. You guys met because you were on
Starting point is 00:06:45 separate separate days somehow that and somehow met years before but that's uh-huh yeah yeah you had a sense it was yeah we i mean we were already dating and whatnot but we we really met when we listened to each other's episodes and we're like man we're both at it now we're both leftists we're both so left that it's crazy out there in these political we're so left honey we need to get right yeah and get married so now we're right with god leftist hallmark cards presented by the daily zeitgeist all right matt we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment uh first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:26 We're going to talk about Trump's blog, RIP, permanently shut down, effective two days ago. You know, the thing that was supposed to replace his Twitter feed never got the traction. We're going to talk about another country's need to reckon with its own evil, Canada's need to reckon with the residential schools and how they're going about that why they're not doing it yet um what they need to be doing because you know that's that's something america's thinking about uh at this moment on the thinking about like kind of like we'll see whatever we'll see a reckoning yeah yeah on the 100 year anniversary of the tulsa race massacre we'll talk about that in a future episode but first we want to just point
Starting point is 00:08:14 at canada and be like y'all fucked up we are going to talk about anthony fauci uh tony fucks is Tony Foxx is busted oh no yeah they did a FOIA on thousands of his emails from during the pandemic and dude he is boring as fuck it is like oh man they didn't find shit
Starting point is 00:08:39 we're gonna talk about how Europeans are doing without all the hugging and kissing and, you know, hugging and kissing all that other shit that they like to do. We'll probably get to like a couple of those stories. But that's ambitious. Got to start with ambitious goals before we get to any of that shit. Matt, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Here's one. How to sell a brand new engagement ring. That's in there. Now, that sounds confusing because you're like, but Matt, you just said you were engaged. Well, I am. She said yes to me. She said no to the ring. said you were engaged well i am she said yes to me she said no to the ring uh-huh and uh yeah so i bought a real real bad ring yes this is 100 real i love hearing someone say all right the
Starting point is 00:09:37 engagement well dude i bought a really bad ring oh yeah what happened okay so she sent me like i don't know a couple months ago she sent me a picture of a ring she thought was cute and so i was like looking to but i wanted to buy that ring because i have no visual eye i don't know what looks good okay like we watched sex in the city once and like aiden bought carrie a pear-shaped engagement ring and like a parent and and all of the girls sitting around like samantha and charlotte all them were just like oh pear-shaped i had no idea pear-shaped was bad so i knew not to get a pear shape i knew that much and then so i went to first i went to tiffany's and then that was real expensive so i went to their the jewelry shop across the street from tiffany's and it was like
Starting point is 00:10:26 cheaper and then i just kept showing them like the what i want is a square and a circle i don't want a diamond like a conflict stone right and so they didn't have exactly what i was looking for so they they made one custom right which turns out when you do that you can't return it uh you can't return it and also you have to pay up front and also it was kind of created from pictures of better rings and then kind of mashed together and then so the day of i went in and it's like it's a london blue topaz i thought it was going to be like a light blue this is really blue it's like it's a London blue topaz. I thought it was going to be like a light blue. This is really blue. It's like it looks like a like a Jolly Rancher blue raspberry.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Oh, hell yeah. I love. Yeah, which is a delicious flavor. Right. But it looks really bad on a ring. And so I bought that. And then as soon as I got it, I had a panic attack because I knew it was the opposite of what she wanted. I thought it was going to be small, but because it's blue topaz and it's like kind of a cheap semi-precious stone, it was real big. Like it looks like a 70 year old, like Florida Jewish lady jewelry.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And yeah, so I ended up. Hey, Zyte Gang, if you're looking for a ring, hit Matt up.gang if you're looking for a ring hit matt up yeah you're looking for a beautiful blue topaz ring that's not the heart of the sea from titanic it does it's like that but it's like you know it's bluer somehow right right and yeah and it's not a conflict stone although it became one when she saw it and she she definitely did not she did not like it but we're still in love but you had a sense you had a sense going in it's not like you were like and i have nailed this my lady yeah oh i knew i knew as soon as i got it i fucked up and what i didn't know tiffany's it's from Tiff's yeah Tiff's
Starting point is 00:12:26 yeah yo hey Tiff can you make me a ring for way too much money sure send me a photo hun yeah yeah yeah I'll mash them together in photoshop and I'll get you something approximating something I would like it's a beautiful ring
Starting point is 00:12:41 if you like you know if you like something kind of gaudy but if you don't kind of gaudy, but if, if you don't still buy it from me. Yeah. Uh, please someone buy the ring. So we got another ring,
Starting point is 00:12:54 uh, that, that, uh, she loves that's coming in the mail. But, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I got this, this other one though. If anyone, it's really hard to sell, dude. Yeah. Yeah. No one told, I wish someone had told me that i wish i had asked that's what i wish more than anything is that i do dilly yeah
Starting point is 00:13:14 do a little do dilly um but instead i was like i got this what's the worst that can happen take my just steal my money but yeah do dilly we We about to get silly. We about to get silly, all that doodilly. King of the hilly. Anyways, I'm... Yeah, so that's the last thing I Googled, how to sell. And it's brand new, never used. You know?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Right. Yeah, she wouldn't even put it on. She wouldn't even put it on. No, she didn't even... She was just... She looked at it and she went, ah! Oh, wow! She just went, nope.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That's... Yeah. Yes to you, but sorry. I proposed by getting down on one knee and proposing with the box, but it wasn't open. And then I waited for her to say yes first. And then she was like, well, show me the ring.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I was like, okay, but it's the worst part. And then I opened it. And I was like, you still marry me? And she was like well show me the ring and i was like okay but it's the worst part and then i opened it and i was like you still marry me and she was like oh not with that ring and then she kissed me and uh yeah and uh we're still in love though you know so it's fine that's good it's all about honesty you know yeah but if anyone has any stock tips or just any way to recoup a few grand, just let me know. I'll sell some drugs. I don't give a fuck anymore. Hey, you down to take a few flights to Bolivia for me? I am down, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I got a cavernous colon. You can shove whatever drugs you need in there, dude. I'll help out. I'm just trying to help. Trying to help. Trying to help Fran. Yeah, man. My engagement ring put me in so much debt.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But did she take it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's nice. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, she specifically picked it out. Yeah, that's smart. That's a good way of doing it. But then she was
Starting point is 00:15:05 still surprised i don't know she must have like put a mental block being like but he'll never actually do it because she yeah yeah no she uh well she was surprised too you know yeah yeah she's like you look so gaunt jack when you propose you're like i sold all my blood plasma yeah it's there's something to be said for being a idiot because like i was able to get her to the location where i'd like set up this bar uh which was the first place i ever told her i loved her which is surprisingly an irish bar i was i was pretty drunk uh and i had like set up the basement of the bar but the way i got her there was being like, forgot my fucking credit card at the, at a puck fair again.
Starting point is 00:15:48 She was like, ah, okay, fine. We'll go back there. So you started it with a test of your relationship. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You started it with a possible crisis. Like I might be an alcoholic. Can you take me to rehab? Yeah. Surprise. Here we are. Passages Malibu. Can you take me to rehab yeah surprise here we are passages malibu yeah yeah yeah but uh it's already all set up yeah uh what is something you think is overrated oh overrated uh mulan that's right mulan the ridge or uh the the remake both of them bro both mulans i uh i've seen both and i mean i don't want to come off as being like oh it's a stupid story it's a good story
Starting point is 00:16:37 it's about a woman who pretends to be a man so she can fight in a war in place of her ailing father like that's a good premise but i just saw the new one recently and i just like with both of them i realized that i just end up feeling bad for the male love interest in the movie who's slowly falling in love with a soldier named ping right and i just feel like he you know his story is not fleshed out enough he's kind of just wrestling with these feelings of like you know discovery where he's like maybe i'm gay maybe i'm bisexual i don't know right there's something about this dude that i'm in love with and then you know cut to oh i'm i'm a girl this whole time and he has to just be like oh yeah instead of being like right i feel like instead of being yes he's just like oh that's great dude right i love i love women that's totally what i've been you know wrestling with
Starting point is 00:17:33 you know vaginas hell yeah right my favorite thing you know you and mike pence dude no i feel bad for him he's in love and and we're just supposed to just like move on with our lives while he's just sitting there wrestling with these lifelong feelings right he's so the movie both movies it just leaves him confused i feel like he's bisexually coded and people need to talk about that more and And the movie, Just One of the Guys, which was a minor 80s film that was on HBO. Oh, I remember. I think Comedy Central like every day for an entire decade. So that's one of the movies I've probably seen the most in my life has the same plot twist.
Starting point is 00:18:26 the most in my life has the same plot twist and the guy who's like best friend opens his shirt and reveals that he's actually a woman who's doing an undercover story on what it's like to be a teenage guy and the the protagonist is like mad and conflicted and like runs away and it's a real deus ex machina where like at the end she's like i really like betrayed and fucked up this guy then he just rolls up on a motorcycle doesn't even say a word just like kisses her and then they drive off because i think the filmmakers realized like man we've done some severe psychological damage to this teenage boy uh like we've just uh completely fucked with yeah they've dug they've dug quite a hole for this character and all these feelings that especially at that time they're like we really can't wrestle with these feelings in this movie yeah there's not enough yeah they're
Starting point is 00:19:17 not enough they're not capable it's three acts it's supposed to be 90 minutes. He's just going to have to be like, okay, great. I kiss girl now. Okay. Oh, I like girl. Girl, great. Thank God for girl. Heteronormativity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Especially on a motorcycle, too. Yeah, exactly. Rap. But that was the toughest thing you could do in the 80s. You and Mike Pence got similar attitudes, although for different reasons. He wrote lengthy op-eds about Mulan when the animated thing came out because he said it was left-wing propaganda saying women could serve in the military. What the fuck? Okay, so first of all, I want to go on record as saying that women can absolutely serve in the military.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Anybody can serve in the military anybody can serve in the military absolutely and that the only thing that me and mike pence agree on is some horses are fuckable and and we both love our mothers right yeah this op-ed he wrote it said for those who have not yet been victimized by the mcdonald's induced hysteria over this film mulan is a fictional account of a delicate girl of the same name who surreptitiously takes her father's place in the chinese army in one of their ancient wars against the huns and it just goes on like the last line is essentially moral of story women in military bad idea what the fuck like yeah dude and also what is he talking about mcdonald's for he just brought in mcdonald's for no reason. I think because like, you know, every Disney movie in the 90s had like a full court press of like McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, yeah. They had the Szechuan sauce. Yeah, that was good. Exactly. You remember caused a whole bunch of commotion. Oh, I love that Szechuan sauce. That was good stuff. Again, Mike Pence loved it, too, and was saying that it's that's the only reason this movie is all Szechuan sauce.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That's the only reason it's successful. Rick and Morty fan too yeah oh yeah yeah uh what is something that you think is underrated i think the cost of engagement rings because here's the thing you don't know how much you're gonna cost uh and that's you just you go in you have some money and you have a budget and then they're like uh okay yeah we can work with that but it's you just you go in you have some money and you have a budget and then they're like okay yeah we can work with that but it's going to be you know eight hundred dollars more and you're like damn that's a lot of money dude and then fucking you just you pay it because you're in love and then uh you know you fucking you you get the ring and it's just not what you want you sound like gill from the simpsons oh boy oh boy another 800 bucks i guess i gotta go
Starting point is 00:21:48 along with it a lot of collar loosening going on a lot of collar loosening i'm sweaty i'm sweaty just thinking about that ring boy i'm just like oh god that is i mean you know you just don't know i think it's the the entire wedding industrial complex underrated in terms of uh how predatory it is um yeah because right now we're like looking at like wedding prices i'm asking people who i went to like their small wedding you know where they like rented out a friend's cafe and finding out they spent eighteen thousand dollars in total and i'm just like i i just don't i don't know how to do this cheaply and it just seems like it's all it's all a grift and i've never had a single person not tell me spend most of your money just
Starting point is 00:22:33 on a honeymoon and don't go overboard with the wedding that's what they say or combine them get a good photographer you know that's what they say at least you so at least you can remember the pictures and you know you're not going to be like, oh, man, remember the bread? Remember the rolls? Exactly. Yeah. People are always like, you know, trying to like, oh, the flowers have to be perfect. And I'm like, flowers?
Starting point is 00:22:54 What? Flowers. It's just so infuriating, too, when you look at like any event space and you're like, OK, well, if people are going to be like wearing a dress when they eat off this plate it costs seven times more to write right exactly it doesn't fucking know yeah the food doesn't know it's a wedding what the they're going to perform and do a number because it's a fucking wedding they're inanimate of fucking objects and they're being used in the exact same way just in a different fucking context yeah put put the fucking wedding food in a ziploc bag and then taste it later and see if you're like, oh, yeah, that's a $7,000 fucking plate right there. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's just, you know, it's food. It's food. We're acting like food. It should be more expensive. Like we pretend like, oh, well, everything should be expensive because it's like, if you don't think it should be, then I guess you're not in love. Like, that's what they do. They victimize people like me who are in love and just want to buy a good ring and getting pushed around into a i've been pushed around you guys people everywhere turns out it was a blue raspberry
Starting point is 00:23:58 jolly rancher in the ring yeah the plastic wrappers yeah you open the box you're like it's melted and warped we put all our wedding money into cgi uh didn't invite anyone and just had a cgi artist uh yeah you know made it made it look pretty exactly get extras in like in like green screen suits like get the ball suits i just want every wedding it's just fucking andy circus playing all of my guests yeah that's right he does a great job we're both played by andy circus yeah you don't even have a wedding andy circus does everything yeah 18 grand i can get andy circus in a mocap stage and we can we can do whatever the fuck you want it could be king kong mary's fucking smiegel if you want yeah i mean and i think people would much rather be at that event you know yeah right rather than yeah it's just a very expensive party
Starting point is 00:24:50 for non-giant apes yeah you know people want godzilla and king kong to like have the first dance you know i want to see i want to see smieagol singing at last. Like that's, that's the wedding I want to see. Could you imagine like, if you were like this eccentric millionaire where like, you were like, I'm going to make a feature length film. That's like a depiction of this wedding, but with like the most epic, you know, effects and like, it's like space jam, but for a wedding, it's just like, well, you get all of like Warner brothers IP together. And instead of them watching LeBron James play basketball or whatever,
Starting point is 00:25:32 it's just they're getting married. They're having a full-on wedding. And Snape is the officiant. Yes. We resurrected Alan Rickman with CGI for this. All of my groomsmen are just the Clockwork Orange guys. It's like, yeah, that works for me, man. That's a wedding that I put money into.
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Starting point is 00:30:39 later wednesday whether the move was a precursor to the former president joining, quote, another social media platform. Miller replied, yes, actually, it is. Stay tuned. Oh, good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. Yes, I actually did lose on purpose.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Stay tuned to find out why. Yup. A 20-minute pause. Yeah. 20 minute pause yeah uh he uh we just realized like there's so many people going to this blog like we couldn't like have so many people on this and then the huge trump platform social media platform yeah yeah we didn't want to split the audience so we're definitely doing that good idea you said that i'd already thought of but it's just i i still marvel at how devastating the deplatforming has been for his public profile it's it's amazing it really has been it's it's better than i could have possibly imagined and it makes me mad that it didn't happen sooner you know he was just in like such a narcissistic feedback loop where like his narcissistic behavior was getting the desired
Starting point is 00:31:52 results which was allowing him to inflate himself more which was feeding you know and it just kept getting bigger and bigger and the only the whole thing was based around his ability to reach people on social media and like once they punctured that he's like totally like he fits his own definition of loser. Yeah. I'm sure that is difficult. We all got more followers than Trump right now. Oh, that rules so much. That's what I say to him.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I got more social. You know, if I was that close to him, I'd be running away. I'm like, yeah. But yeah. I mean, again, yeah. the deplatforming, it's infuriating, again, that it didn't happen sooner. It took so long. And it's just, it's wild to see, like, from the beginning, we've been talking about how poorly the blog has been running. And it just shows you, like, he thought, all because he can't grind it out again.
Starting point is 00:32:41 He doesn't want to go to some other normal social media platform and try and come up or whatever he just wants to be able to be like where do they all know my name and they're glad i came yeah where's my online cheers right yeah i mean i feel like also a blog is just like misses the mark as to what the the way that he like governed and the way that he communicated like it's on impulse dude and it's right and it's based on a like news feed like he needs a news feed to look at and get mad and write a tweet at four in the morning response yeah in response it wasn't like oh you can write down your thoughts in this uh you know in this carefully worded wordpress document it's like no he's not gonna sit at
Starting point is 00:33:30 a computer like what do you want from this guy this guy is just pure id like it and it's so great to see him completely flail not given a platform of you know so he basically if he had a blog where they just shoved the computer in front of him while he's taking his shit i think it would be much more popular well yeah but i think that's what it was like it was it was twitter except sometimes he went over the character limit but it's just nobody was there already and so much of his appeal on twitter was that he could interact with people and you're like the president was retweeting memes and appeal on twitter was that he could interact with people and you were like the president was retweeting memes and like yeah he was the he was like the overly important
Starting point is 00:34:11 guy at the bar who was that drunk asshole who like interject in your conversation like yo what where'd this fucking guy from why is ted kennedy talking to us still and then deplatforming effectively threw him out of the bar now it's's like, oh, wow, the vibe's so much better now that that guy's not in here screaming at everything. Right. And he's outside being like, do you guys know what's going on out here? It's kind of pathetic. Not even in here. Now that he's just literally outside on the street screaming at strangers, it is like, it's just so much better i i loved also watching him try to live like a little mini version of twitter
Starting point is 00:34:46 at mar-a-lago where he'll just show up to whatever shitty band is performing and just be like i'm still the president you know uh they're gonna they're gonna reinstate me everything's gonna be fine i mean that's the thing that surprisingly nobody in the MSM is talking about is that this is clearly him clearing his plate so that he can effectively return to being president again in August because real G's move in silence like lasagna. And he's just that's that's how he does, man. He's very subtle. He's very under the surface. He likes to, you know, move like freeway rick ross they didn't know they didn't know it was too late baby miles did you i don't know if you caught that
Starting point is 00:35:32 yesterday maggie haverman uh reported that he is telling everybody behind the scenes that he's gonna be president again by august yeah yeah he's back baby that's cool man i'm tired i'm glad you you no i'm not glad for anything man just shut the fuck up no i'm stoked for you bro hell yeah like he's like the type of person who's like going his delusion like doctors will tell you just don't argue with him you know he's it just upsets him so just go cool he's the kind of guy though too like i used to fuck with people like that where you know like if you just agree with them you can say anything as long as you agree with them and they'll be like yeah yeah yeah i'm like i know dude that's so sick that you're like doing this because like nobody else is like doing this at all dude you're like the
Starting point is 00:36:16 first thing i know i know yeah yeah sure sure and you're like oh that's oh my god you're so you're so tight d you're so tight yeah D. You're so tight. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. That is a literal transcription of what Xi Jinping and Stephen Miller and Vladimir Putin interacted with him, I'm sure. Right. Putin is like, it's so easy. He's like, oh, my God. Yes, Donald.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That is a fantastic idea, man. Where do you come up with this stuff? I know. See, I like this guy. Yeah. On the phone, he's like, a fantastic idea, man. Where do you come up with this stuff? I know. See, I like this guy. Yeah, yeah. On the phone, he's like, this guy asshole bought it. For real. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:50 You're such a genius, and you're so strong. The way your body is very top heavy, and you have very thin legs held up by. Boxers. Boxers physique is what they call that. Yes. I like your your
Starting point is 00:37:06 your mid-level is like Michelin Man but everybody love Michelin Man you're very strong although he doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:14 know shit about restaurants sure doesn't yes everything you say correct and may I have the codes yeah
Starting point is 00:37:23 just exactly putin at gmail.com, right? Oh, codes, yeah, sure. Hit them up. Steven, you got this, right? All right, let's talk about reckoning with the past and trigger warning because this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:38 there's some very graphic sexual abuse that is part of this story. So we'll be talking about that. So just forewarning, there is a movement starting, you know, it started a long time ago in Canada to reckon with the historic atrocity of residential schools, which were schools which stole indigenous children from their families and placed them in boarding schools where they were abused and often murdered. And the last residential school only closed in 1996. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah. Ninety six. Yeah, that's it's really shockingly recent. A lot of the stuff that we're talking about. And so I mean, I would preface this with we're not trying to dunk on Canada right now. Oh, no, we know we we know how little we have our shit together in this country. Absolutely. It is. But it is a really big news story internationally because of this. Just was it just was it first because of the like bodies that they had uncovered?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah. So that's this week. The collapsed Swepham First Nation discovered the remains of 215 children, some as young as three in an unmarked mass grave at a former residential school in British Columbia. Colombia. And there's just so much pain. And Canada, the official policy of the Canadian government has been to resist accountability. There was billions of dollars set aside for basically settlements. And because of this particular news story, Trudeau is acknowledging and being like, this is terrible. We need to do something about this. But behind the scenes, his government has been fighting cases brought by the Assembly of First Nations to, you know, thoroughly investigate all former residential school sites to the point that it is now in canada's supreme court and i do he's giving lip service to them like oh man this this is terrible and then meanwhile he's like actively fighting against people getting justice for this in the courts yes i mean it's like it's
Starting point is 00:39:59 like we're the exact same country right almost you know what i mean it's like we're just just now like we have presidents like really being like yes the tulsa massacre was like awful and we're the exact same country. Right. Almost. You know what I mean? It's like, we're just, just now, like we have presidents like really being like, yes, the Tulsa massacre was like awful. And like, we, we haven't talked about it.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Although on the other side of the coin, we have people being like, don't talk about the 1619 project. I know. It's so funny that like the difference is, is that we have a so much stronger current in this country of people who are just like actively not giving lip service to this stuff you know i think that's like the big difference is like you know democrats i you know i i give them shit all the time for like mostly being the party
Starting point is 00:40:39 of lip service to all these things well well while not actually accomplishing much, but then you really grow to appreciate lip service when, when you have like people like, you know, right wing and, you know, like Donald Trump in power who are just like, Oh, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:54 racism is a lie. It never happened. I should be on the Washington monument. Right. And then you have like, Nancy's like, but roots and here's my can take cloth. I'm wearing. And you're like, Oh my gosh, she gets it. If it's like, but roots. And here's my Kente cloth. Kufi I'm wearing.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And you're like, oh, my gosh, he gets it. If it's up, then it's up. Then it's up. Then it's stuck. I've got that wet ass pussy. Love me. So, yeah, like i mentioned canada and by the way this is uh this was a segment that was written by our uh writer jm mcnabb who is canadian and is doing the hard work of trying to
Starting point is 00:41:38 just face this and tell americans about this and make americans about this. So shout out to him. Yeah. But yeah, there's been like these attempts by the Canadian government to her was rejected because it took place before she was officially enrolled as a student it was when she was on her way to the school oh my god and then the canadian government spent 2.3 million dollars fighting claims from survivors of just one school between 2013 and 2018. So I feel like there's going to be a sort of a sea change now that the story has gone international, and Trudeau will be hopefully changing his tune. But that's, I don't know. It's just we need to look at these events just with our eyes open, because this is, first of all, how marginalized communities are treated when nobody is looking out for them.
Starting point is 00:42:56 This is everywhere in the world. This seems to be how marginalized communities are treated when they're treated as if they don't have rights right and that's especially true in america yeah and just even dimensions of the withholding information you know trying to keep as much of this in the dark not properly documenting things obscuring the data so things aren't as you know terrible as they actually are i mean we have to look at everything in the light of day like for for what it is. We can't get these sanitized versions and expect that there's going to be any truth or again, like for them, reconciliation to occur by being like, well, let's under report things and let's, let's actively have a campaign to silence people. Like we can't square those things. And realizing that that is a tactic it's a it's like classic
Starting point is 00:43:46 colonizing tactic which is basically like you continue to fight all of the people who want justice for you know what what's happened for long enough that you basically go like yeah there's a statute of limitations that happened a hundred years ago right you know are we expected to apologize for something that happened before any of us were born like it is like it's a tactic so like anyone who is thinking in any way that like oh well because you know this is an old thing like a thing that happened so long ago like just know that this is it's it's meant for you to say these exact words you know it's meant for you to not care it's meant for you to like not fight for justice for these communities yeah just to generate as much apathy and just
Starting point is 00:44:37 frustration as possible where you go i don't know like every time we try it's no and right yeah and they just want to wait out the clock generationally and just hope maybe the next batch probably won't know as much as the last one. Right. Right. And I mean, the institutions that we live with today are built on a foundation of ignoring these problems, ignoring what happened and ignoring the injustices, not making amends to people and. And ignoring the solutions. And ignoring the solutions and ignoring the solutions. And, you know, this is what you see in like the documentary 13th and about America's, you know, judicial system. And in the case of Canada, Canada is still separating indigenous
Starting point is 00:45:18 children from their families through it's it seems like, you know, family court or whatever the equivalent is, their indigenous children are put in foster care group homes or detention facilities at a much higher rate, and their families are given much fewer resources to fight against that than any other community. So it's, you know, it's still the echoes of this are being felt in a very real way in the systems as people live them today and i mean if you just look at what has happened to america like the american indigenous population too there we're not even close to having some kind of truth and reconciliation process like it's it's like the the government's like let's stop as slavery right you know what i mean let's not go fully out there and that's because that's a whole other mess of awful awful awful shit that happens and i think this is the injustice that befalls
Starting point is 00:46:17 indigenous communities is that at a certain point because of the arrival of you know colonizers the the pace of history just goes to a certain point and like of the arrival of colonizers, the pace of history just goes to a certain point. And the groundswell of ignoring those atrocities just turns it into this obscure thing. And yeah, I mean, they're just so again, we always say this. We need so many reckonings. We need so many. And like real ones, too. Not where we go, oh, that was awful.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But like ones are like, we have to actually right these wrongs. But unfortunately, that's not going to happen when you have these societies that aren't built on. ones are like, we have to actually right these wrongs. But unfortunately, that's not going to happen when you have these societies that aren't built on. That's like, that's not profitable. Right. Especially because they are built.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I mean, the settler colonialism, it has all these like institutional mechanisms for just kind of justifying the treatment of indigenous peoples.'s like this is this is part of it and it makes it so that even criticizing another country's settler colonialist institutions is like oh well that's not fair because you've also done it and so everyone goes okay so it's just like a cabal of silence where we all agree yeah we're yeah it's a double ko we're all bad so there is
Starting point is 00:47:26 no justice that can be uh handed out you can't be for the indigenous peoples of canada and the indigenous peoples all across the world who have been affected by you know colonizers yeah it's really depressing dark stuff and you see it from everywhere from like canada to palestine to all over the world where there's you know settler colonialism you see a cabal of silence within institutions and the populace who just are like what can we what can we do we all live with the the trauma and it's bad and we move on right yeah i mean there's you know germany uh and south africa are at least two countries that have attempted to you know right their wrongs yeah and to at least atone and acknowledge what happened so i, there are examples of governments trying to address these things
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Starting point is 00:52:56 You're canceled, bro. They FOIA'd thousands of his emails from during the pandemic. You know, I think everybody was hoping to find the goods on what was really going on behind the scenes as he was, you know, dismantling the Trump administration from the inside. And the spiciest nugget that's being used as a pull quote is where he said, all is well, despite some crazy people in this world. Oh, shit. quote is where he said all is well despite some crazy people in this world oh shit dude out of control i just fired that one off right yeah bro so problematic i mean first of all we don't use crazy anymore that is just wildly both misogynistic and it just it's a bigoted phrase. Unbelievable. So this was actually an email response to someone who said they were worried about all the people who are threatening his life and the lives of his family. So it's hard to even interpret it as being directed at Trump. The email to him was like, I saw some news. Hope it's fake. You're being attacked by some people.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Hope you are well under such an irrational situation he responded thank you for your kind note all is well despite some crazy people in the world so what a fuck okay what about the next thing what about the next thing come on there's got to be more than that yeah no there's more spiciness give us the tea give us the tea i know there's tea i've heard of tea so i i will say this the people who the q people have not had a chance to fully digest all of his emails i'm sure they're going to find some secret codes in there oh i'm so excited allows to know what was really going on but that is like, that's it, man. He is really. He's a professional doctor. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah. Not a comedian. Right. He's a guy in a very tough position where he has people literally trying to murder him while he tries to make sure that as few people as possible die from a global pandemic. Yeah. die from a global pandemic yeah the his there it's very consistent between what you see in the emails and what you saw in press conferences the only difference is that he's he seems like very cautious and like wary of public perception in a way that i could see people being like oh he's just all about like the press and but that is in fact like from day one people were like okay so this is how you lead during a global pandemic you have to be steady
Starting point is 00:55:33 you have to be understated uh and he saw that the president wasn't doing that and so like i'm guessing that's why he was so careful about you know controlling the image that was put out there about him because he recognized probably that he was the only voice of reason for for the country right yeah it was it was really uh the only rational person who was in the room with a president surrounded by sycophants so i mean you know he's he's trying to be as rational and as forthcoming as he can be given his current situation and i'm trying some he's like dude i'm not saying anything in an official email where someone can foia this and like reveal anything remotely and what my personal thoughts are outside of my you know position i don't think this like proves that he is like that this is actually how he is it's just
Starting point is 00:56:30 when you FOIA a republican or conservative leader it's like lifting up a rock with just thousands of disgusting bugs and like a smushed cat and a bag of drugs and a murder weapon underneath it like with fauci you get vaguely dismissive language about people who are threatening the lives of his family right get a fucking life fauci you're such a dork but i'm sure like there are some democrats too that they just they just they're good at their rock hiding you know what i mean oh yeah in the same way i think we're just like i think with some republicans you don't even need to foia them because they say everything out loud no yeah you just need to have a camera there whenever they're doing like uh you know one of those like 100 000 a plate dinners for like right the american uh liberty coalition or whatever
Starting point is 00:57:20 you know and then they just go like everyone actually liked slavery is this thing on hello is this yeah slavery was fun and you're just like this is being taped dude whoa whoa i thought okay i thought we're all cool here no yeah yeah my bad oh so now you're gonna cancel me for having you know neo-colonial neo-confederate fucking sentiments. All right, I get it. Please welcome, enjoy the comedic stylings of Ellie Kemper.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Sorry. Oh, all right, Peter, a real one. Yeah. All right, so. Was she 19 when she went weird that? Yeah, she was 19.
Starting point is 00:58:01 She looks like a child. I was being unfair. I know unfair i saw the headline too and i was like oh shit but then i was like you always have to do the thing i'll be like what the fuck did you do when you were 19 right exactly yeah i'll tell you what i i wasn't able to do was win any fucking beauty pageant because i am not an attractive man nor did i ever have a glow i tried yeah i went to one debutante ball and i embarrassed my high school girlfriend because i got so high i was stinking in there and this was like uptight like you know this is like the fucking debutante ball and shit i tried my best i smoked
Starting point is 00:58:38 with a huge hefty garbage bag over my my torso and i smoked outside i did my best yeah i was like i did my best babe you hotboxed the trash bag and you still got in trouble yeah i'm like you're right i shouldn't have blown the smoke in the bag that was a bad idea didn't think it would stick onto my wool suit i never went to a debutante ball but i i learned everything i needed to from the uh from that borat thing and a couple of magazine articles. Oh, yeah. Just how bad these dads are conflicted about how much they want to fuck their daughters. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of kind of like incestual dad energy. A lot of like Pornhub title energy. Right. Right. Exactly. A lot of butterfly kisses energy is what we call it yeah
Starting point is 00:59:25 yeah yeah it is uh it's real gross i only know of debutante balls through like tv and movies you know i'm not really that's why i thought it was like a dance not like this thing where like i would be the only like or one of three like non-white people there yeah it's like it's like a cattle call for like single ladies is that it it's like all the single ladies this is them this is the adult version of this child now well right it's like a bat mitzvah for uh for southern wasps former slave owners or whatever yeah yeah you know same thing yeah but yeah it's like it does very much feel it feels very gross to uh you know showcase your your hot daughter but but i don't i don't really blame ellie kemper for the founding of it i do just think it's funny because
Starting point is 01:00:15 it was like one of those cancellations online that you're just like yeah sure i'm not even gonna read it yeah fucker i have no reason to hate this person but i was like yeah we haven't we haven't done her yet she should be canceled not even sure why do i want to find out no i'm gonna play this on the ingram angle tonight they're like this is how the liberals talk yeah you see we haven't done her yet what do they mean did she come out when she was like yo that was an l you know honestly i shouldn't that was such a that's a bad look not i i would i would i don't know if she listens to this podcast which i'm sure she does i want to strongly advise her to just pretend none of this ever happened and
Starting point is 01:01:00 move on because uh any apology so that's just another news cycle baby that's just gonna keep it going i say just live your life you know keep being the impossible kimmy schmidt is that what it's called yeah yeah is she impossible no she's unbreakable oh yeah continue being unbreakable and do you because I am certain that you did not found the KKK debutante ball. Right. This is the beginning into realizing she's some kind of time traveler. Yeah. Dude, look at this photo of the Confederacy leaders and their wives. It's all Ellie Kempers.
Starting point is 01:01:41 She's married to five different Stonewall Jackson. Yeah. Jack Nicholson's there. You're just like, is this The Shining? What the fuck? She was married to General Braxton Bragg. Fox News sent their equivalent of a you up text to her by media critics condemn left leaning outlets. Ellie Kemper onslaught over ties to racist ball.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So they put out an opinion piece being like you leave this nice girl alone yeah yeah i mean ties to racist ball like i feel like that's like anything anyone's ever like anyone who existed from at any time that you probably participated in something with origins and terrible racism i feel like if you're a white and not even just in the South, like if you're just white and lived in a suburb, you definitely participated in some sort of clan adjacent event. Yeah. You didn't know that,
Starting point is 01:02:37 you know, you, you just thought this was the, the annual K K R O Q weenie roast. And you're like every, every year we eat hot dogs and listen to alternative music from the 90s. I didn't know the Klan had anything to do with it. Right. They did.
Starting point is 01:02:53 They did. Yeah. Kevin and Bean. Yeah. Big Klan's. Kevin and Bean. Dude, Sluggo from K-Rock. Jet the Fish.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I mean, come on. These guys were Confederateederate generals too there's there's three k's and striker you know the the dj uh i just love i love k-rock is secretly kkk rock this is for a very specific los angeles audience but it's a it's a great joke uh all right let's talk about Europeans. I've been thinking about them. Finally. They're such an affectionate people.
Starting point is 01:03:32 They kiss on the cheek to say hi. Yeah. That's basically the question. Like some porno. Right. That's weird. In America, we're like, what the is this? Oh, yeah. It's so funny when you see Americans meet a European for the first time.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And they go, oh, really? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. They kiss on the cheek. Are we having sex now? Yeah. Because this was not part of the deal.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Or someone has a joke like, I need a cigarette after that. Like, really? Yeah. You hugged somebody, you fucking creep. But yeah, this whole thing. In America, we have such a screwed up sense of physical intimacy, especially between bros.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So switching to the fist bump I think was a really easy alternative to show affection as a greeting in this country, especially if you're already a stepdad. Europe, on the other hand, is a place the love flows, the kisses and hugs are ingrained in the culture. And that's why at the beginning of the lockdowns,
Starting point is 01:04:27 I remember like officials in Italy were saying, stay apart today to embrace each other more warmly tomorrow, because yeah, you want to get in, you want to give kisses and things like that. And this all makes sense. Kisses. That's how I greet.
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's how I greet strangers, putting our eyes next to each other. And oh, it's so funny. So as the lockdown looses, That's how I greet strangers. Putting our eyes next to each other. Oh. That's so funny. So as the lockdown looses, though, and vaccinations increase, people are wondering what to do now in Europe. Is there an in-between on the way back to full-blown besos? And it seems like everyone's been trying things. You know, right now in Italy, they're trying a new thing, which is a breast bump.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Now, not like across the board, but things people have noticed to have some kind of contact where, quote, trying things you know right now in italy they're trying a new thing which is a breast bump now not like across the board but things people have noticed to some have some kind of contact where quote two people greeting each other essentially try to touch hearts with their heads turned as far away from each other as possible god i love the the i love the horniness of the modern european like they just are just like we have to do skin on skin contact like let me feel that heartbeat fuck i love that i that sounds great to me i just like though how it looks though like if you saw people doing that they're like yo do they fucking hate each other yeah yeah their heads turned as far you're like yeah yeah yeah like are they about to fight
Starting point is 01:05:39 like this right that's very schoolyard is this a weigh-in yeah they're like what's up talking to talking to the new shoulder talking to the shoulder what yeah they're like what's up what's up talking to talking to the new shoulder talking to his shoulder what's up homie what's up yeah but you want to find out you want to find out yeah they're speaking in french though so you're like i think they're in love but either that or they're gonna kill each other are they getting divorced this and but in france they have this is again this is from the daily beast they were saying that they've gone for quote a more elegant bicep bump which minimizes contact and the chance that someone might accidentally forget and plant a fatal smooch so i'm guessing you're doing like a
Starting point is 01:06:16 oh oh yeah arm straight like bang yeah uh or or like the side of your arm and the side of their arm like you're leaning in for a kiss, but you don't do the kiss. Yeah. Or like, does anyone do like a shoulder to shoulder with your head? Maybe like, hey, hey, hey. Yeah. Like, you know. I mean, you know, I'm glad that they're trying to like do a life hack for COVID, you know, greetings.
Starting point is 01:06:39 But I mean, what about like high fives? Is that? I think because it looks like what the idiots who would the accents do when they invade their country on tour, like on tourism tours. Yeah. That's true. Like a fucking top gun. No, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We have, we do our shit properly. No, we're going to do a chest bump. Right. It sounds awkward as hell, but I would say considering that Jack and I almost made out when we saw each other for the first time in physical space after a year. Like, I get it. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you need to be like, yo, we're here, dog.
Starting point is 01:07:09 What's up? Physical contact is important. Not just between Miles and I, but as a society, we need that shit. And I think if we had more of a culture of kissing and hugging when we saw each other, like maybe we'd have like 50% less mass shootings. Yeah. Less gun deaths. If people just like greeted each other with like affection. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Or like this, like despair pit of masculinity where you're completely rendered inert, like emotionally around other people because you're like, I cannot do this. I'm, I should just go lift weights or something. i must shake hands and say sup from afar you see like in other countries how affectionate men are with each other and like you immediately see a different sort of quality or level to that like these friendships or these bonds than you do when like dudes are just like
Starting point is 01:08:00 throwing beer cans at a wall or some shit yeah american men have like an internal combustion engine that converts every emotion into anger right and that's right yeah yeah i love that we really are like just so repressed we're basically a steam engine like yeah and so yeah yeah you become the little engine that should yeah yeah it should go to therapy so like the other things that they're saying like look we get that people are getting vaccinated and numbers are beginning to stabilize but still like please exercise a modicum of caution because we're still trying to figure out like all of the nuances of even transmission with vaccinated people and you know knowing what to do especially with the elderly so this one expert said that vaccinated grandparents hug their unvaccinated grandchildren from the back you know and he
Starting point is 01:08:51 suggests they hold their breath while doing so okay we say from behind but you know i want to make it i want to make it a little you know twinkle in your eye yeah the words they used was hit it from behind the back hold your breath it stinks so bad but like yeah but he said hold your breath begin because it's all about the exhalations and this one italian expert strongly warns against what they call the aunt's kiss which is a full-lipped cheek plant as they say because again you're leaving there could be saliva left you might be touching your that and then touch your mouth or touch your eye or something like that. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:27 You know, it's a little bit tough and I get it. You know, my heart goes out. But being from two cultures that are famously not very affectionate, I've found a way to navigate through. Yeah, I have no problem like not being affectionate when I greet people. I like to hug. That's the most i like to do and i'll admit i am definitely one of those guys who like went to europe and someone greeted me with the the cheek kiss and i spent most of the time like i had a like a meltdown i was just like
Starting point is 01:09:57 i don't know where to go and then i just walked away masculinity challenged i've never thought about this yeah shot in your pants yeah yeah just there's this other thing though too like because then there's such a culture of predatory men and you know consent culture not right existing here that like even hugging you want to be like is that cool because i get it like there's a five and ten chance that i'm some fucked up evil person no that's true like there's like you know there is kind of a a middle ground somewhere where it's like even before the pandemic i stopped hugging people as much because i used to just like that was just how i greeted people and then
Starting point is 01:10:37 i you know you kind of realize that like well not everybody is like into hugs and i'm not gonna force that on anyone that's why like i think the new thing is like hey i'm a hug are you a hugger yeah i'm a hugger and then you're like all right oh shit i just knocked my leg you're like all right bring it in come on now yeah but uh you know i would love to be in a culture where we all just made out all the time so that's sick too yeah i mean there's yeah we we've talked before how there's maybe we should do that just start bringing just like bros doing cheek-to-cheek kisses now you know what i mean yeah and see if we can start a movement yeah see
Starting point is 01:11:15 if it'll catch on obviously being like yo or you know if you're vaccinated yeah right well which is the thing that they're also writing in this article that like there are still people who act in like it's 2019, but it's usually like immediately followed with like, or prefaced with like I'm vaccinated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Bring it on in. Prove it. That's what I say. Your cards, bro. Uh, but yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:40 there's cuddle parties that have like started becoming a thing because we lack the ability to like. Oh, like pre-pandemic, right? Yeah. Yeah, pre-pandemic. But like that's although I know some people who are like, yeah, man, I've been going to like raves the whole time. I actually met somebody at a thing who like got two drinks in and was like, yeah, I've been going to like a couple of raves. Like, and it was pretty wild. But like, you know know people don't give a fuck died a lot of them died yeah
Starting point is 01:12:10 my grandma uh yeah things things were bad but but they want us to be here so here we are we got a party for them i rave for them i rave for them but like back in the day, I feel like so much of like madmen culture of people just having like irresponsible workplace affairs. And oh, partially because they were like drinking at lunchtime. Oh, yeah. But also, you know, like that's how people used to get their skin to skin. And, you know, it's like a human need that we just like don't acknowledge at all. Yeah. in and you know they it's like a human need that we just like don't acknowledge at all yeah i mean but you know the italians also probably cheat a lot too with their secretaries i feel like we we definitely are a culture that like does not show affection on the outside and then uh like
Starting point is 01:13:00 affection is just seen as something god doesn't want you to do. At least that's like our culture. So it's like, no, you know, if you do that, Jesus cries. So just make sure you do it in secret and,
Starting point is 01:13:14 uh, you know, fucking or in Europe on vacation or in Europe on vacation at a hostel, you know? Right. If it happens, it happens. Come on guys.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Just be less, uh, creepy and misogynistic like men from europe yeah exactly thank you a whole continent all right well matt it has been such a pleasure having you as always man where can people find you we're done already i'm already man it's just oh it's too bad i could talk about dudes kissing dudes as greetings for hours. Happy Pride. Yeah, Happy Pride, everyone.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Instagram at Matt Lieb Jokes and Twitter at Matt Lieb. And then, yeah, check out the Frotcast or the Our Sopranos podcast, Pod Yourself a gun. You know, well, we are taking right now a little break. We're in between season four and season five. We're about to start season five in a few weeks. So catch up.
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Starting point is 01:15:25 you're going to and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes a tweet that i liked recently was by comedian pap johnson at uh papton p-a-p-p-t-a-i-n his tweet is i like to put tenant on and then leave the house question mark which i still haven't i thought i was gonna like watch that right when it came out on and i have not been able to bring myself to do it i can't i can't commit to that movie i'm just like i just keep hearing about it and i'm just like i just don't who has the time i feel like i have to get there's too much preparation like mentally for this movie and i'm just not i'm not i'm not gonna do it um miles where can people find you what's
Starting point is 01:16:17 tweet you've been enjoying oh man you can find me on twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Also twitch.tv slash four 20 day fiance for a little 90 day action. What tweet I like is this kind of, it's an intersection of, uh, you know, the gladiator movie and a reductress tweet at reductress tweeted woman's leg hair. So long Ridley Scott keeps filming gladiators running their hands through.
Starting point is 01:16:47 It's like such a cliche thing. And then we talk about that whole trope of just like yeah like just like just like oh am i in elysium where am i right what a time to be alive the gladiator days when men learn how to be men exactly we learned an important lesson about masculinity completely that sadness should be converted into a homicidal rage homicidal entertainment for the masses that would allow you to entertain entertainment let's see a tweet i've been enjoying jackie at jack william rtf tweeted white people would be like wow we got in line at the right time um which was something legitimate like i liked that on when it was tweeted at the end of last week and then my dad literally said it when we got we were in line at sea world he was like like, guys, look behind us.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Look at how long the line got. We got in line at the right time. I was enjoying all tweets two nights ago about Damian Lillard because that was fucking bonkers what he was doing. And I liked this tweet by Josh Gondelman. Me at 10 a.m. Wow, I've got the whole day ahead of me to get things done. Me at 12.05 p.m.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Looks like I've squandered the day. Let's try again tomorrow, team. The best of that Austin Rivers reaction when he missed. He's like, thank God. Austin Rivers is. Yeah, I also like to tweet from somebody that was like yeah so damian lillard's amazing but how funny is it that austin rivers was like oh it's damn time huh it's it's austin time it's time to let these austin powers shine oh shit anyways uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we
Starting point is 01:18:53 have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and even some footnotes where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's a song that we think people should go check out? This is a cover by Sue George, the great Brazilian musician. You might remember him from Life Aquatic when he was doing all those David
Starting point is 01:19:20 Bowie covers. But this is when he did teamed up with this band, Almas. And I think we did a song from this album before but this is a cover of craftworks the model and yeah the the lyrics are a little creepy and 80s but it's just got like this you know organic tone to it and whenever sue george is like singing in english i think it's always it's it's a good vibe so this is the model by suegeorge.
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