The Daily Zeitgeist - Tucker CarlsTrend/Don LemTrend Out! 4/24: Tucker Carlson, Don Lemon, Fantasmic!, Police=Plug, TikTok, Meghan Trainor

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

In this edition of Tucker CarlsTrend/Don LemTrend Out!, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the departures of Tucker Carlson from Fox and Don Lemon from CNN, some destructive viral videos, the Police being the Plug, the Wes Anderson TikTok trend, and Meghan Trainor's thoughts on teachers!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of tucker carl's trend out don lem trend also out you gotta you gotta keep it even one for them one. But yeah, the day of bloodletting of famous news anchors is upon us. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer Becca Romo. Hello. Happy Monday. Woot woot. Happy Monday unto you as well.

The media and comments are going down one by one. Yeah. happy monday unto you well gallimards are going down one by one yeah so tucker i mean we'll dig more into what we think happened what could have happened just do a little dance on his tiny little grave um but the the don lemon news broke since we recorded tomorrow's episode so we wanted to jump in the trends and again this one seems like i don't know i don't know if there's like a social contagion of like they saw that tucker carlson got fired without anyone telling him and they were like oh we can do that because that's possible yeah don lemon was like hosting his show he'd been with cnn for 17 years posted his show this morning, got off the air, and they were like, and that'll do.

That's going to be your last one. The days of them letting people give tearful, prolonged goodbyes are gone. Tucker Carlson signed off on Friday saying, I'll see you on Monday. And he was wrong. Yikes. His ass got canned. Don Lama got fired because they'd been kind of pushing him to the back burner ever since they came under new ownership. And the new ownership was like,

CNN's too woke. So Don Lemon posted on Twitter, I am stunned. After 17 years at CNN, I would have thought that someone in management would have had the decency to tell me directly. At no time was I ever given any indication that I would not be able to continue to do the work that I've loved this network CNN came through and was like uh we actually offered you an opportunity to meet with management um but instead you released a statement on Twitter it's like well he's not firing someone with like your underling and then be like, and you can meet with my boss if you want to. Yeah. That's not the same thing as having an actual meeting before getting fired. Yes,

exactly. But anyways, I don't give a shit about really either. I guess I give a shit about the Tucker Carlson story. I'm glad, I'm glad to see him gone. CNN seems like it's going to shit, but with don lemon i fully expect him to pop up on msnbc or

yeah one of the many other news networks for people who are like center moderate pro corporation news anchors uh because that is most of the media in the United States. It will be more interesting to see what Tucker Carlson does from here, because Newsmax and OANN are also facing big lawsuits that potentially pose an existential threat. You hate to see it, Becca, don't you? We hate to see it. There's a couple videos of very destructive things happening on the internet. One, one of our listeners shared with Miles and I on Twitter,

infinite content, hashtag get vaccinated, sent us this clip. And it is just a new home in Utah that that oh i saw that just fell off like the top lid top of the house just fell backwards off the back of the house very cool like you know i would not want to be inside that house or a person who just paid i guess they're saying over a million dollars for oh my god these homes uh because they are prime real estate overlooking a canyon uh so somebody forgot to tell the builder um but canyon i am glad that this is something that can happen because it looked super cool and yeah shout out to whoever caught the video

uh another thing that looked kind of cool, Maleficent the dragon at Disney World or Disneyland, one of the Disneys, caught fire. There's great video footage of the dragon. It's like one of those fairs or live shows. It's nighttime. This animatronic fire-breathing dragon caught a little bit of its own breath. Never good when you catch a little bit of its own breath.

Never good when you catch a little bit of your own breath. During the Fantasmic show, which is a very iconic show at Disney. Is it? If you go. Yes. I wasn't familiar with it. It's like one of their live shows that you pay extra tickets for or whatever, but it's on the water. And so it's based on the Disney Fantas the disney phantasmic whatever it's like

a big excursion if you go to like pay the extra tickets to go see it but it's like happens on like you're like sitting around like a stadium seat and there's like a water pit and then they do it in the water so well it's a good thing because uh this shit went up in flames and there's really good footage of like the automated uh attention uh due to unforeseen circumstances we're discontinuing the phantasmic show at this time and like as the person is giving this sort of unbothered nothing to see here folks all good statement like it goes from like being visibly on fire to the head of the dragon like exploding in flames and everyone be like oh it's just uh you know it's great to see disney making people realize that anything can happen in this world shout out to disney and that

yeah exactly no I'm looking at these images of like old, because I actually, I have like a silly little photo of me seeing the Fantasmic show the first time I ever went to Disney World

with my parents. But I'm looking at what the show is supposed to look like and I can see how that can end pretty horrifically. And this is not it.

Yeah. And then just a trend that we've seen in a couple places uh is the police being the connect when you need you need guns when you need meth when you need ammo we talked last week about how the gun that was used in the louisville mass shooting i believe they had to like sell it right away back to the public because the gun lobby has made it so that you can't keep guns behind closed doors. Well, the police aren't just helping that way. Sometimes they're doing charity.

For instance, just giving away 160,000 rounds of ammo gave it away to a thief. I guess it was stolen technically, but the Columbus police are still on the hunt for 160,000 rounds of ammunition. Oh my goodness. And then also a California drug dealer escaped with 60 pounds of sheriff's meth, which is a thing. You know, the sheriff seizes meth and that becomes sheriff's meth.

And if you can get your hands on some sheriff's meth yeah uh but got away with 60 pounds of meth that belonged to the riverside county sheriff's office that's absolutely insane and i do feel like i mean this isn't a new phenomenon we allude to it all the time in our media because it is probably very true. You know, if you watch anything like between Narcos or even Snowfall, my partner and I have been watching that. Or, you know, there's a really good documentary. I think it's literally called like Cracked or something on Netflix that talks about like the planting of cocaine in, you know,

black neighborhoods in the 70s and 80s. And the reason that, you know know there was such a crack epidemic like the police have always been at the root of a lot of these issues harming our communities when it comes to drugs and violence so i like that there's a little jingle for it police are the plug police are the plug now yeah uh. You know, it's nothing new. ACAB, but also ASAI, like the berry, because all cops are incompetent. We know that. And I even think during 2020, I don't remember if we covered this because it was before I was on the show, but there was a conspiracy theory going around in New York peak pandemic, that the police were planting fireworks in black and brown neighborhoods specifically, because there was a summer like July, June 2020, where like we could not stop hearing fireworks.

Like it was just like in L.A. Yeah. Yeah. It was absolutely insane. And it became this conspiracy theory that like police were trying to drive our communities mad and like not let us sleep so that we would be like more irritable so there could be more crime and like all these things and I definitely saw that on a personal basis living in Crown Heights at the time like I was living in a very kind of dangerous part of

Crown Heights a very loud part of Crown Heights and the fireworks were just like non-stop and I was irritable a lot of people were irritable it was so crazy so i don't know it's just garbage and we saw police cars like dropping off fireworks like at the quarters and things like that so i don't know they're just trying to keep things fun you know just like disney trying to trying to keep it a festive fresh yeah yeah also san jose police union executive got charged attempting to import fentanyl, which the cops are always asking us to feel sorry for them about. They looked at fentanyl and had to be revived from Narcan. But apparently, they're part of the problem.

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Becca. We've got a new Wes Anderson trend on TikTok. So lately, this is an interesting one to me that I saw popping up because probably back when TikTok started, there were a few creatives that their whole thing was making their content really aesthetically like Wes Anderson. And that doesn't mean like their daily content,

like they were kind of storytelling in a way that Wes Anderson would, like kind of scripting and writing. And like you could tell they were really putting like art into it. So I don't want to include them in this, but now there's a trend with TikTok where people are kind of romanticizing their own lives

and turning it into a Wes Anderson film. It reminds me a lot of the insert account accidentally was Anderson, which has its own coffee table book. Now that you can buy for $40 at the fucking strand bookstore. I saw it in New York here recently. Um, but yeah, people are basically just taking their iPhones,

you know, being like turn landscape, you know, they'll be on Tik TOK, but they'll still make it landscape, taking wide shots, highly saturated. I think it's cute. It's fun though.

It's like, you know, a nice silly little way to romanticize your life while you're traveling. But yeah, people are, to me, it also kind of says like, A, how maybe uncreative Wes Anderson is a little bit. That like between the accidentally Wes Anderson account, which has been around for years, I think since like 2016, that account existed to this.

It's kind of like, okay, white man, I guess a lot of people could do very saturated, artistic, wide shot, colorful. Okay.

Whitest man. He may be the whitest man. Um, we were talking about Wes anderson before we started recording because of this trend and it was a trend i remember there being youtube videos where it was like if wes anderson directed die hard or uh yeah slasher movie or whatever but his movies are so hit or miss for me and i don't have a central like the ones that other people really like that I don't connect with at all there's no central reason like nothing makes sense to me it's just

like his movies are very polarizing but like each one has like 50% of people really like it and 50% of people don't fuck with it at all and it will change from movie to movie it reminds me i remember there was this early story about netflix when everyone's like netflix has data and an algorithm where they were like the one movie we can't figure out is napoleon dynamite that movie yeah half the people love it half the people hate it and like it doesn't correspond to anything else in their film taste and I feel like Wes Anderson is similar but like even within his own oeuvre like some of his movies really

hit like I don't like Life Aquatic but I love like shark movies and underwater movies but like that movie I don't fuck with at all I thought for a long time it was because I only liked the ones that Owen Wilson wrote with him because it was like Rushmore and Royal Tenenbaums and Bottle Rocket. And then I didn't like the next like three. But then I did

like the hotel one. So I don't know. I love how you keep saying it's the hotel one. It's the Grand Budapest Hotel. Yeah, there's the hotel one. Yeah, you you just the island one but i do like the grand boulevard hotel i do agree with you i really i feel like i came into west anderson via um the royal ten of moms that was like my entry and i like the fantastic mr fox i did not like life aquatic but i also don't really fuck with aquatic movies. Moonrise Kingdom, we were talking off air. That one was kind of like in my peak high school. Like if you were a hipster, you loved Wes Anderson. You loved Moonrise Kingdom.

It came out when I was in high school. Yeah. I did not like that one. I was like, whatever about it. I really wanted to like The French Dispatch because I have really grown to love Saoirse Ronan and Timothee Chalamet together. But I felt like it fell flat. That was the one that really threw me for a loop because it was like,

okay, the hotel one, he seems like he has it back. And then I don't really see the animated one. I think I saw the Fantastic Mr. Fox, but it didn't really make much of an impact. And so I was like, maybe he's good again. And then I saw the French dispatch and I was like, this is my least favorite one he's done yet. It is. I think my least favorite one he's done.

Yeah. So I don't fucking know, man. It's confusing. But he's like, what if we took the whiteness of like the prep aesthetic and just like ramped it up to like 10x what the normal J.Crew model is rocking? And what if the entire world was Cape Cod? Literally. But it's so funny because he's iconically from Texas.

If you are a hipster from Texas, people cannot let go of Sanderson. Growing up in Texas, trying to figure out, I was like, I need to escape here. I want to go to New York. I want to leave Texas. And then I ended up going to a private Baptist college, question mark. But I knew a lot of people in high school that were like, I'm going to go to New York. I want to like leave Texas. And then I ended up going to a private Baptist college, question mark.

But I knew a lot of people in high school that were like, I'm going to go to UT. I'm going to be a filmmaker and I'm going to be like Wes Anderson. And they were just like gobbing at Wes Anderson. They were like, our God, Wes Anderson, like our UT God. So I'm sick of him personally. I think it's really funny that his mom's name is Texas

and that he's from Houston. And also we found out during our conversation, I think Brian pointed out, or you pointed out that his brother texas and that he's from houston and also we found out during our conversation i think brian pointed out or you pointed out that his brother is a yeah is a children's children's book writer illustrator because that is like what he i've always been like oh he just wants to be a children's book author and illustrator and like yeah brought that aesthetic like that seems to be his entire aesthetic and like he'll have children's books all throughout his movies.

And that's not like a thing that bothers me. I think it's like a cool aesthetic to like have chosen to crib from. But it's, yeah, it's funny. Like the two things I know about his family are also that he's from Texas. His mom's name is Texas. And that his brother is a children's book author and

illustrator. Oh, all right. Megan trainer, I guess said fuck teachers on a podcast. Yes. So on her podcast, which is working on it,

which I think is funny that she can't take the criticism in a podcast where I guess like the whole thing is like, we're learning things. We're working on it. she had already questionable Tisha Paytas who is a very controversial figure I think in mass media to this date but they were talking about like parenthood and you know I guess raising kids in this like dynamic right now with like school shootings and things like that but i don't understand how she could have come up with saying yeah fuck teachers in the context of dealing with like mass like school shootings like it's the teachers fault i think we've as a mass media

as people who've been reporting on the news for many years now like it's been i feel like canonically understood like this is not the teacher's fault and if anything there have been many teachers who have died at the hands of these shooters protecting their students at the cost of their own lives so it was just like very obviously tone deaf as a woman who is under the age of 30 who is very rich very privileged like no need did she ever need to say fuck teachers. It came from a very uneducated place. So I just think it was silly. She was in a silly goofy mood

and she's trying to apologize and say her words. Like I realize that they have consequences, but like doesn't want to take accountability for those consequences. There is like a vast fuck teachers wellspring of like anger in America that doesn't make any sense, but is just purely the product of anti-socialism propaganda for, you know, decades and decades and decades of like public schools are too close to socialism for people. So they just blame teachers for everything. These damn teachers unions are the problem with schools. And it's like

you barely pay them enough to feed themselves. Like what the fuck are you talking about? It's like the unions also don't fight enough for them. My mom was even telling me recently that there was this incentive for teachers to get a COVID bonus or something and they couldn't get the

bonus until after they signed on to be in the following school year. So they had to come back in August to get the bonus until after they signed on to be in the following school year. So like they had to come back in August to get the bonus that was supposed to be given in December, which is like so fucked. So for like eight months, they like don't get the bonus. And then the bonus is only going to be $600. Wow. And she was like, well, I'd rather just like forego the bonus if I get to quit. And they were like, it was like this,

this whole, like the mental math. And it's like, yeah, this is what the union fought for us. And it's just, the unions aren't helping. I have a lot of heart for teachers.

I have teachers in my family. I have friends that are teachers. They're the most underpaid folks. But Megan's apology, apparently she did initiate an official apology on tiktok she said i love teachers i fight for teachers which no you don't yeah it's a weird they have a weird statement then for someone who loves teachers and fights for them she was blaming her pregnancy brain which i don't think is fair like like, like, yes, you are pregnant. Yes. You have hormones.

Yes. I don't want to ever say like being pregnant isn't an incredibly difficult experience, but you can't say like, that's how you feel. You said, fuck teachers. Like that has nothing to do with your hormones.

But she said, I love teachers. I fight for teachers. I think they have the hardest job and they're the most underpaid. They are the most underappreciated when they literally raise all of us. I don't want to make excuses. I'm just so sorry. And then she added,

I'm so sorry to any teachers. But teachers, I may feel bad. I will remind myself that my words definitely have a consequence. I will be more careful. I'm sorry for being so careless with my words. I love teachers. I'm here for you.

Let's work to make schools a better place together. I'm like, you said a lot of nothing. Yeah. Yeah. It sounded like that was a stream of consciousness, which is, you know, it's not as bad as the carefully worded non apology where you like find every way to address your behavior without actually apologizing for it.

But it's it's definitely a new look where it's just like you sound like you're leaving a voice message for somebody that you forgot you had called and like just didn't hang it up and you're like wait uh hey hey what's going on sorry uh yeah i'm just uh just calling to uh check in what was i gonna anyways yeah yeah i'll be back back it just seemed like very much perfunctory and trying to come up with something so Becca as always

such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist where can people find you follow you you can find me

and follow me at Bex B-E-C-C-S Ramos on all platforms yeah yeah that is gonna do it

for us this afternoon we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.

And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,

then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

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