The Daily Zeitgeist - Tucker Out, Twitter Check Mark Mess Grows 04.25.23

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

In episode 1470, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by by co-host of Secretly Incredibly Fascinating and host of Creature Feature, Katie Goldin, to discuss… Tucker Carlson No Longer Part Of The Fox News Family, Twitter’s Dumb Check Mark Drama Continues and more! Tucker Carlson No Longer Part Of The Fox News Family Tucker Carlson leaves Fox News in wake of Dominion defamation settlement Tucker Carlson Out at Fox News Tucker Carlson says he’ll never run for president: ‘I’ve never been motivated by the power to control people’ Twitter’s Dumb Check Mark Drama Continues Twitter Gave a Fake Disney Junior Account That Uses Racial Slurs a Gold Checkmark Verification These celebrities ‘subscribed to Twitter Blue.’ Except they’re dead. LISTEN: Blow The Bird Whistle (Too $hort Bird Machine Bootleg) by Cosmo BakerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Miles isn't here to tell us. And I just have too many viruses from going to the websites that actually, like I think it's the only people who visit the websites that are like, it's International Cupcakes Day, are like us and the elderly so the most guileless individuals looks like the living embodiment of a click okay button exactly yeah but i have won a bunch of free ipads so it's actually worked out for me my name is is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Pasta the pasta subway tuna in a pasta chopped up little turtles in a rigatoni. Pasta the pasta subway tuna in a pasta chopped up little turtles in a rigatoni.

My name is Jack. Red Fogel. All right. Sorry about that last part. That is courtesy of Fighter of the Nightman on the Discord, a little bah with a bah, the bandabam, about a song that sounds like it's coming

from hell, written by someone who is one of the worst, one of our worst humans, about a phenomenon that I have to believe was conceived in hell, in some sort of hell. Pasta at Subway

has really thrown me for a loop. I'm still reeling Zayt Gang. I found out about it over when I was off for a couple weeks and I just haven't been able to kind of get it back together. I'm not sure why it fucked me up so bad.

My therapist and i are still working on it it takes it takes time it's gonna it took you time to get get to the full the worst the low point is gonna take you time to get out of there yeah well thank you to the fighter of the night man on the discord for honoring my trauma i am thrilled to be joined in the second seat by one of the very faces on mount zeitmore a a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer. You know him from Yo! Is This Racist? It's Andrew T! Trudy, Trudy, Trudy, Trudy, rock it everywhere.

Trudy, Trudy, Trudy, Trudy, rock it everywhere. Rock it everywhere. Rock it everywhere. I found you, Mr. Andrew T. Get the news and bring the takes to me. Hit social media, read a post or two. Then hit the block button. That shit is Twitter blue and that's as far as i got that was pretty good that was awesome very hard i by heart yeah as well as well it should be as are all the listeners that was awesome well andrew we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest comedy writers doing it anywhere.

The creator and writer behind Birds Rights Activist on Twitter writes for the amazing YouTube show Some More News, hosts the podcast Creature Feature, where you learn all the weirdest shit you didn't know you wanted to know about various creatures, including the weirdest and grossest creature of all mankind. I know I wrote that like it's copy that you provided to me katie and that's not fair that's hard to agree i wrote yeah i apologize uh also recently started co-hosting secretly incredibly fascinating she's doing it all from the comfort of her home in italy it's the brilliant, the talented Katie Golden! Hey, it's-a me, Katie Golden. Oh, man. Sorry, sorry. I'm Mario. You got me excited. That's why I said, oh, man, I thought you were Mario for a second. I'm very easily fooled. I saw that movie yesterday.

I'm sure it came to the U.S. late. It's been out in Italy for years because the Italian heritage and I'm sure it came to the U.S. late. It's been out in Italy for years. The Italian heritage and pride in the movie is evident. Yeah. But yeah, there's, you know, anybody who is concerned, including myself, that it was just going to be Chris Pratt being like, it's me, Mari. There's lots of Mama's Mia. There's lots of it's a Me's sprinkled throughout. I don't know if they... I have to assume that some high-level executive at Illumination is Zeitgang

and heard our concerns and addressed them. Because they are suspiciously ADR'd in there. It would have been banned in Italy if they hadn't put those in there. The fascist government, Maloney's government, would have been banned in italy if they hadn't put those in there uh the fascist government maloney's government would have just banned it if there's a new law that you need to have a certain number of mama mia's or else the movie is banned yeah you got to get the uh the italian cut jack that's gonna the they've made a special cut that's like just extra mama's mia three hours long and it's so many mamas of the mia yeah mamas amia mamas amia i do want to say about the subway the pasta at subway seems like their worst marketing decision since uh jared fogel you know yeah oh man kid rock and

jared fogel together in a single aka finally like we all want it i just i just want to say for the record because you two are clearly haters uh when i lived in new york i love the shit out of like a grocery store pasta like a like a gristini's pasta bar at lunch so i'm guessing this can't be that worse that much worse no i i also like it makes sense to me and yet like the casualness with which they were just like subway has pasta now which is like through because like i guess it's like fast food pasta was not really a thing prior to this other than frizzoli's like places that were by frizzoli's so the they were just like yeah we got pasta got pasta now. And I legitimately Googled. After seeing the ad, I legitimately Googled because it was near April 1st.

And I was like, is this an April Fool's joke? But that's the thing. I don't know why it's fucked me up so bad. It doesn't make sense. It's fine. Why wouldn't they have pasta? And yet I'm like. Well, now are they called pasta artists?

Or are they still sandwich artists? Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, my kindergartner is a pasta artist. I'll hit lunch right after this. I'll find out for you. When I lived in New York, part of the experience of living in New York is budgeting yourself $7 for food per day.

And one of the things that I got was the six inch subway turkey sandwich. And it was it was bad. Like there's when I think of the memories of those times, like this is when like Cracked was just starting. We were in a like shitty 30 something street office. And I just remember eating my six inch Subway turkey sandwich with ranch on it. And ranch, ranch diet, diet, diet, Sprite and chewing nicotine gum. And my memories of that, like the color is like those memories are in black and white because it's like so dark, so bleak. Jack has like a like a Proust Madeline face on right now when he's remembering every every sense of that moment.

It's really wonderful. But like, yeah, I remember it. And it was really like a dark night of the soul it was really the whole zoom did a Ken Burns yeah that's right alright well sorry I've taken so

yet again so much of the intro up with my random thoughts the listeners are here for Jack to just remember Jack's remembering. Jack remembers stuff. These are the sandwiches I've had.

Yes, that's right. All right. Do you guys have any memories like that? Where it's like the memory is actually like the memory is dark because things on your end were dark? Or is that just me? is dark because things on your end were dark or is that just me i have really bright memories like that i once was in an office where the lights were too bright and i remember having like i would have to look at medical pictures and they were really gross and i'd eat lentil soup every day again i was also on a budget my my budget food was lentils. And so I'd be eating these like, I could see

the lentils are good. It was tasty, but I could see. Staple of my budget diet as well. Yes. They are a good budget food. They're just a tasty food in general. I still have them. But lentil soup every day does get a little old. And I did remember just seeing every detail of the lentils in these bright fluorescent lights as I was looking at like foot surgery and just wondering, wondering about my life. Oh, damn. I think once again, I that same time in my life, I was at a soccer game yesterday. And I got some like tacos from the street vendor outside. And I just remembered I was like, Oh, when I was in my 20s i used to eat like 90 of my meals standing up and often walking in yeah yeah and i like that part i think oh yeah just in movies

all the time it was walking yeah yeah yeah but i'd say over half of my calories were pizza were like the the cheapest pizza that i could get but yeah dude yeah how a bongo bro i did live in the sewer with my three best friends our master all right katie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we have some big news the y'all learned yesterday but we just learned this morning we're we're still excited We've still got that Tucker Carlson getting fired glow. So we're going to talk about that, speculate what he's up to next. There's a new profile of the UFO Pentagon guy,

the Lou Elizondo, that I thought was illuminating. So I've already just really indulged in whatever I want to talk about this episode. So we might skip that one for today and get to it later in the week. Twitter's checkmark drama is still going on. So we can talk about that plenty more. But first, Katie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? From your search history. Oh, the last thing was Ice Worm Festival.

I think I was doing some research on the Ice Worm Festival in Alaska. So, you know, it's I mean, it was for it was for my podcast on animals. But I there's a festival that celebrates the ice worm. And I'm always really interested in other people who get really excited about something because an ice worm is just this little tiny black worm that lives in glaciers and ice and i thought i was the only other person in the world who would like to go to a festival to celebrate the ice worm but no there are at least a dozen others. The festival is a dozen people? A dozen strong? Approximately.

And, you know, they have ice worm volleyball, ice worm crafts, the ice worm hike. I love it. These are my people. I've found them. What is ice worm volleyball? Is it just volleyball with ice worm t-shirts on? Probably. Right.

Okay. It's probably regular volleyball, but you keep going like, I love ice worms. Yeah. Well, it's probably cold at least, I guess. Yeah. Snow volleyball. Yeah. The illustration from the ice worm festival and the physical mascot is very, very unnerving.

It's like the mogwai version of the Jack Frost, the scary Jack Frost. The George Clooney one that became Michael Keaton? That one? No, the horror movie one. Oh, okay. Cordova Ice Worm Festival. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. And like they do have a parade where they have a giant ice worm where it's like a bunch of people, like maybe 20 people wearing the ice worm costume. And it boggles my mind that they could find 20 people who want to go to the Ice Worm Festival to wear the costume and still have people watch them doing it. Like spectators, yeah. Right, right. I'm not saying this with any hate in my heart. I absolutely love that there is an Ice Worm Festival. It makes me happier knowing this exists. I'm just surprised there are other people who would also enjoy the Ice Worm Festival. Actually, Soren Bui, I'm sure you guys know he was on the show. He suggested the topic to me, the

Ice Worm, and he didn't even know that there was an Ice Worm Festival. Soren Bui, former crack writer who grew up in the wilds of Colorado, like juggling axes and shit. Yeah. Slurping up ice worms.

Yeah. Is the ice worm look like it? Because the mascot is white and segmented and like looks like what a animator might make for an ice worm. And you're telling me it's a small black worm. Yeah, no, it doesn't look anything like the mascot. When you zoom in to an ice worm it looks very hairy like it's got all these bristles and many little like segments uh and weird very weird big mouth it's a little horrible looking yeah but a lot of the shit when you get down to that level is like truly that you can just copy any horror movie monsters from like what's happening at a microscopic level.

Like a dust mite is the fucking scariest thing you've ever seen. It was just the size of a buffalo. We would all be fucked. Yeah. If we were that tiny. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Well, this is sort of a specific message directly for my dog.

It's that my shoulders, my dog does love this show more than she loves me, I think. But during a thunderstorm, she does get on my shoulders every single time. And I don't know what to tell her, but being on my shoulders doesn't make the thunder any quieter. And she scratches me with her little paws, which I know her paws have been in pee-pee and doo-doo because I've seen it. And so she gets up there, she scratches me with her little pee-pee doo-doo paws, and she's still scared. So what she'll do is she'll get back down off my shoulders and then get back on them again. And I don't know what to tell her. It's not going to stop the thunder. Well, that one didn't work.

Let's try it again. Let's give that one more look. Yeah, you didn't try hard enough. He didn't get on the shoulders hard enough. He didn't scratch the skin on my neck good enough to make the thunder stop. And is your dog a size that you could like start walking around, like wearing it perched on your shoulder or. Yes. The problem, the problem with that,

if I did do that, she would dig her nails into my skin and potentially rip out my artery. But, you know, like it, but fashion is painful sometimes we have to suffer for fashion that is true that is true she is

fashionable I have pictures of me with her wrapped around my neck maybe I'll send that in as my photo for this episode I like stealing the thunder of like parrot people and snake people by like wearing a dog wrapped around your neck or on your shoulder.

Ahoy! Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Twitter blue, folks. It's so good. Yes. I mean, I just, the thing is, what's nice about Twitter blue is that normally Serene McKellen doesn't know I exist but with Twitter

blue I can tweet under his tweet and be like go woke go broke laugh emoji yeah and Bilbo Baggins more like dildo Baggins yeah and he has to look at it legally he has to look at it yeah that's it's the law how are you guys dealing with the loss of the blue the blue check or is everybody hanging in there yeah really birds rights pro birds rights at pro bird rights uh-uh never had nearly 400 000 followers one of the most retweeted twitter accounts of all time. They were just like, this isn't a real bird. I'm dragging you all back down to my level. Yeah, that's right. Naked and now you're stuck on here with me, the writer of Birds Write Tactics. If you want a real underrated, there's a really good way to reheat pizza using a pan.

Has anyone done this one before on the show? We have, yeah. And then once I learned it, I became insufferable to anybody reheating pizza in front of me. It's very good. Yeah. But you know what it is. You put the pizza in the pan and then you put a little bit of water in the pan and you put the lid over the pan and it crisps the bottom makes the cheese melty really nice i do 30 seconds without the water just yeah out in the open

what a little drop crazy i know wait andrew were you the one who taught us the that reheating technique i don't know i i maybe is that that's like something that you've... I definitely do that, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you were the originator, in my mind, of that reheating technique. I mean, I just found it on probably Twitter, actually. It's a great site. I don't know what everybody's so mad about. Yeah, I don't know what the problem is. My little addition is instead of putting a little foil, because my Dutch oven lid is made by the a little uh foil because my dutch oven

lid is made by the same company as my cast iron pan lid so you can just put one on top of the other really really get like a little oven going yeah yeah i think you're the only one who's got a lid yeah wait a second people use people use the i feel like every one thing I read is like, put a little aluminum foil tent on it. And I don't have time or aluminum foil for that. No, I have a lid. For the un-lidded community. Yeah. I'm insulted you don't think I have lids.

No, I'm just saying. I feel like people don't think... I don't know. I always... No, how about this? I was using foil for an absurdly long time. You're projecting. Yes, exactly.

I was like, I'm going to put a lid on this, right? These idiots don't know what a lid is, right? I should tell them. I should tell them about lids. I'll tell them. I'll tell you a thing about lids. I'll tell you a thing or two. I do all my Christmas shopping at lids every year.

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We're talking about... Never mind. You'll just have to put it together for yourself. We're talking about Tucker Carlson's what we're talking about. Tucky Carl's on his way out. We learned Monday morning. I think everybody was like there's got to be more to this and he's moving on

to bigger and better things that are going to be soul extinguishing. I thought he was going to do a Marvel movie. Right. The next step. Andrew, you were Irsay maybe moves on

to the other. My hope is he's going to be announced as a star of the new Daily Wire Studios movie. Maybe a Gina Carano joint. Who knows?

Yeah. Gina Carano rom-com with Tucker Carlson. Yeah. Yeah. Just the woodenest white people acting

you could find. I could actually see that losing a lot of money. It's going to be like an aborted baby came back to Earth, but as an adult to stop drag shows. Oh, we could write this now. We could get this outlined and send it off to ChatGPT by the end of this episode. Yeah.

But it seemed like he was just fired kind of without really putting a big plan in in place they were just like yeah he's not gonna be on his show tonight i know he ended his last show with like i'll see you next week so i don't think yeah you didn't know yeah so the timing is interesting just because they just settled that lawsuit with dominion for like you know a long way towards a billion dollars it was like 700 and something million dollars it was it was way up there getting getting close to a bill and so i don't know it seems it seems like if fox wanted to fire him it would have made sense to do that during that process so they like get credit from you know the plaintiff or the judge

or whatever like for you know taking this seriously so it's interesting that after they settle they're like and also your ass is fired yeah i don't know if that's because i that makes me think it might not be the reason right because i think there are multiple fox hosts who were sort of cited in the dominion lawsuit that were not fired i mean i don't i feel like we're gonna learn more about this tomorrow or something. Sure. By the time people can hear this episode, they'll have learned more than we did. Yeah, but it's fun to speculate here in the past. I think we might not. I think, you know, like, they're just going to, I mean, it's going to have to leak, right?

Yeah. Kendall's going to leak it, I think. Kendall's probably going to leak it. Yeah. Kendall Jenner? No, Kendall Roy from Succession. right like yeah kendall's gonna leak it i think kendall's probably gonna leak it yeah kendall jenner no kendall roy from uh succession murdoch yeah there it's there's so much more vivid to me i can't remember who's a real life person i know it really feels well also like as you know succession is winding to its like final episode and it's been a pretty good season so far

in my opinion but like people seem to be really enjoying it and talking about it like an old fashioned hbo show like that we have this news story dropped monday morning that like the speculation is that he had said the wrong thing about the wrong Fox executive in the dominion leaks because there, he was on wax saying some wild shit, like in the, like he was on, on wax saying he hated Donald Trump, which that can't be good for his popularity with his base. I don't know if it like affected his ratings or anything,

but he, I think what does matter is that he insulted the wrong, the wrong executive and that executive might have had it out for him. I would love it so much if he was brought down just by the pettiest, pettiest thing. Yeah. I mean, I think that's his version of events. I think he's basically like, yeah, somebody didn't like the tuck and had to you know however refers to himself and you know tried to take me out i like the version that the washington post gave which was the one that like

kind of in the first wave of stories made the most sense that it was just you know he had said the wrong thing about the wrong executive it still also sounds like what tucker carlson would be saying like if you asked him what happened it would be an evil executive who like couldn't take his harsh truths uh fire you know yeah that's just so wild because it's like obviously this man is a colossal asshole every single second of the day. In what world would you be scared, offended, or not offended by anything he said? If you already are an executive

at Fox and choose to work with him, literally, what could he say? Maybe he kept blowing up the shared bathroom. Yeah. It's got to be something like that. I mean, some of the details from the leaks were that his show and like the

writer's room for his show, which apparently there's a writer room, writer's room for his show was like, it was just like the, the first person anecdotes. It was like stuff that would have been deemed like sexual harassment in Mad Men. Like it was just like straightforward misogyny on a level that was like felt like they immediately after were like, I can buy my way out of anything. And those are just episode scripts.

you know i imagine that their writer's room is just two wheels and one with like nouns on it and another wheel like with like is woke is cancel culture yeah those just two things invade canada sure fuck it let's go with that that was what his latest documentary was about invading how we should invade and liberate canada but i mean there have been these moments like that there have been moments where fox didn't seem to have the courage of tucker carlson's convictions like he had a head writer who was discovered to be like an openly racist troll on some internet forum and like that guy got fired like the day after was discovered or like tendered his resignation in a way that seemed like someone's like you got to be out of here so it's it's almost you know i love your work and i i agree with everything you said but

you can't have that smoke out there bro yeah but it's like that's the shit you say on your show every night like i don't know it's so weird they're like, that's the shit you say on your show every night. Like, I don't know. It's so weird. They're like more careful behind the scenes than. I think it's because they can be sued by employees behind the scenes. Right. Yeah. I mean, that makes sense. And also like they are creating content for an audience that they don't respect or, you know, understand or agree with. And so they're just out there

basically being like, come slap it up, piggies. You know? Of course I said that. These people believe stupid shit. My viewers are idiots. I mean, it is brain poison. Like, that

guy, I'm sure you probably talked about this but that guy that shot that poor kid uh through the door yeah because he was like oh no it's it's in kansas city yeah yeah it's like a black 13 year old child going to pick up his sibling at the wrong yeah and he's like some 80 something white guy and he he's like, oh, well, I listen to Fox News all day because I think it was like his grandson told the news. Like, yeah, he's like listens to Fox News all the time. And he's a racist. He's just sitting there absorbing hate like during his entire waking hours. And so he's like, well, you know, I'm terrified of this child and I'm going to shoot him.

And I don't you know, I don't necessarily buy that he was scared. I think it may have been anger or rage or something, just like, you're on my porch, I'm going to shoot you. But yeah, these people, they're just like, it's not to say this guy was a nice guy before he started watching Fox News, but they just sit there consuming this hate, this brain poison yeah yeah i the thing i think with the

it's like they make this stuff but like there's the problem is there's clearly a contingent at fox news that believes their news and like has some level of power it's probably like a 70 30 but like i feel like it's just like from time to time, they have to throw these people a bone. Yeah, that's right. That seems like what's going on. This is like, I mean, admittedly, the biggest, isn't this the biggest bone they have? Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, I thought he had the largest viewership. I would love to hear you say that. Yeah. I mean, it could be with all the advertiser boycotts, his show is not the most profitable, but he's definitely got the largest viewership. It's all the carriage

fees. By the way, yeah, that's the thing. You've got to tell your cable company, don't pay Fox. Don't pay more for Fox News. Right. Because Fox has gone woke. That's right. let them know folks i mean they they are getting it from that end right as yeah you know oann or whatever the fuck is like fox is fox doesn't respect our president our one and true president yeah so i

mean i think that it's also like like we'll see whether it's tucker made fox or fox made tucker because i mean the thing is you could put any racist person in there and it will i'm sure do fine sure i mean he was the replacement for bill o'reilly right and i remember a similar feeling when bill oReilly was replaced and was like, wow, a giant has fallen, a giant in the world of racism. This is great news for all of us. And then just like a younger, smarter version of him.

More racist version. For sure is going to happen. And they will build this person up as effortlessly. Yeah, for sure. Who do you think is going to be the new Tuck? Oh, man. I mean, I feel like they haven't

answered my audition tape but i would have guessed yeah i would have guessed either andrew t obviously or dan bongino but dan bongino like that was the person i was real scared of like because he seemed just completely racist and was like had a huge podcast and seemed to like understand media somehow and then they fired his ass on friday like he he was just like kind of an up-and-coming correspondent so it does feel like maybe there is like something to that internal fox we're actually a news company versus Fox, WWE, racism, entertainment. I mean, the journal, though we are at real journalism,

clowns have the most power probably now than they ever have in contemporary Fox News. Not that it's the majority of the power, but I think they have as much power as they're ever going to have. See, we're losing our credibility as a news organization and yeah yeah sure i guess i do wonder if they're because there are pending lawsuits against oann and newsmax that i wonder

if them being like well those people are going to be bankrupted by the end of this year, factored in. Because thinking as a business person, they probably are like, won't he just go over there and take his viewers with him? So they must have some feeling that

those companies are fucked too. It's not their viewers. It's like people's grandparents who literally don't know how to change the channel from Fox News. Right, exactly. I mean, it's burned into their screens, right? They turn on the TV, it's on Fox, and they just play it in the background all day. I don't think they're going to go online to try to follow Tucker Carlson to wherever he's going i think it's like such a passive just like well i turn on fox news and that's what i do i mean i think they'll be upset that tucker's gone but i don't i don't see them like having the savvy to like well i mean some of them of course but a lot of them i think are just gonna they just have it on as background noise yeah yeah and the replacement will be the same shit i'm gonna i'm gonna put my money in i don't know what odds i could get for joe rogan wow i mean what he would

he want to do it it would be it would be a pay cut and he'd need a carve out for his broadcast but yeah i think i think the uh that time slot is not very hard it's it's got to be some of the easiest it's the most lucrative per hour work you can do on earth i got i would say ben shapiro but i don't think he would play well with the older generation like he's he's too much of a little boy yeah he's i think they would just be like this guy's annoying yeah that is a detail that i assumed was from reality but the the chiron for fox being like burned into the screen of because succession like mentioned that as a talking point a season or two ago and apparently that's real

like that happens all the time i guess charlie kurt like these are all people who are internet famous it's probably like one of those things where you know a movie snakes on a plane is like a big deal on the internet and then it comes out and nobody actually watches it in theaters like i'm i'm leaning towards all these people who are like internet famous and then they'll probably pick somebody who has like good news anchor fundamentals for a bunch of bullshit reasons that I don't understand. It's going to be a local Fox News person or a 57-year-old Wall Street Journal editor.

It's just one of those people. Some shit you've never heard of. Hannity will take his slot and someone's going to take Hannity's slot. That's true. Everyone moves up. Long live the king. Wait, was Hannity not the most key time slot

i i assumed hannity was the best time slot is he fox news schedule i do know tucker carlson's ratings were the highest so did that did that auto complete for you andrew oh yeah no no i was going to bookmark not it what the folks at fox have to say about this oh wow it literally yeah 8 p.m is just blank right now whoops there i go boy it's it's actually just an hour of like commercials for like gold and like you know fucking like anti-woke guns yeah just keep rerunning birth of a nation yeah

all right it's gonna be something worse though whatever there's like somehow it'll be worse temper temper your celebrations because this a thousand percent is gonna end up worse yeah I mean I would say someone like Michael Know knowles but i feel like he's too nakedly genocidal yeah that's what i've thought that before about plenty of right

wing people that fox yeah still liar there's no bottom there's no bottom well because the thing like the ecosystem for fox news is truly like things that happen on the like in nazi forums or on like right-wing talk radio like bubble up and then make their way there and then they sort of they dog whistle it yeah it's like how buzzfeed used to work with reddit where they would just like buzzfeed was just like a repackaging system for reddit stuff yeah yeah like i i could see some them going with someone who's like got more rate like started on radio or something like that yeah i mean it's like stormfront kind of goes through a sewage treatment plant and then it's still sewage but it's not quite as raw as it was.

Filtered. It's truly, it's a copy editor. It's a copy editor on the various Nazi screens they found today. Yes. Can we replace the Jews with bankers? Right. Yeah.

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somehow got like even stupider over the weekend they awarded a gold verification badge which they try to like make companies pay a thousand dollars per month for so they gave the gold verification badge to disney jr unfortunately it was a parody account which they would have known if they just like did the very basic thing that every all of us do on twitter now where you go back and like look 20 posts deep to make sure that they are who they say they are you could tell they they published racial slurs and claimed that south park and family guy were headed to disney junior uk so presumably they gave the gold check mark gold verification badge to an 11 year old it sounds like yeah i mean they don't have so tight they don't have any employees left as far as i can tell like there's nobody

left working at twitter so it's just like elon and someone he's holding hostage yeah doing everything well a bunch of like visa employees being held hostage yeah exactly the other thing what i actually do to figure out if someone, like, quickly, you can just scroll down to the, like, recommended when you go to someone's profile. And it's, like, so clear whether they're or not. Like, the Nazis, you know, love following each other. So it's just, like, immediately you can figure it out. It's very, very, that part of the AI works great. He has managed to not fuck that one up.

The presumably 11-year- old who runs the uh fake because who would create a fake disney junior parody account like that i feel like there aren't that many adults who are interested in that or the ones who are a little worried about but anyways uh when they received the uh gold verification, they tweeted, no fucking way. This isn't actually real, right? What a mess. Oh, no way. Elon, what up, dude?

Yeah. I mean, they just have to be like crypto people. Yeah. Who has a thousand bucks a month for this joke? I guess it's someone who got in. Well, no, I don't think he paid. Yeah, I think they just got it. I think Disney probably paid and then they gave it to the parody account.

No, I think like they're just, well, I think what they might be doing is just giving it to some accounts. The way they are with the blue checkmark yeah right not enough people are buying it and so not enough people are buying the blue checks so they're forcing the blue checks on big popular accounts like ian mckellen right but i think also not enough organizations are buying the gold and so they're probably like trying to force it on organizations to make it seem more popular but unfortunately they did like put it on the disney junior fake account yeah i don't know tight it's going like south park that would be so tight if it was on disney man can you imagine cartman but he's on disney man can you imagine cartman but he's on disney yeah my mom doesn't let me say

those words but i'd like to hear him on disney yeah so that that was the other big strategy they took this weekend after yeah doing the purge of the like you know verification blue check marks at the end of last week they then realized nobody was left who had blue check marks and then they started giving them back to people with more than a million followers just automatically and like you said katie their strategy seems to be to pretend that these people paid for it because when they gave it back the blue check mark thing said this account is verified because they are subscribers to twitter blue and the verify and verify their phone number i mean it seems like they're openly stating that people paid for

things that they didn't pay for yeah which yeah i think multiple people have pointed out that that might be illegal because you're faking a celebrity endorsement yeah it's chadwick boseman apparently paid for this kobe bryant anthony bourdain yeah yeah over the weekend they they all paid for it that's wild and also it's just i mean they just broke the one thing that like worked about twitter and now they're like putting just various worse versions of it like that just a blue check mark that connotes if people have a million followers is so since that's information you can find with a single click already like it's just so stupid and half-assed and poorly thought through and well i think it's worse than that because i think it's in because like it's somewhat inconsistent i think some

accounts that have under a million followers have also gotten the blue check foisted on them sometimes i've been blocking those so it's like sometimes it seems to be done as retribution so like yes like matt binder got like a blue check after sort of reporting on the block the blue campaign it looks like wint i mean wint has over a million followers but this happened to him i think before the other accounts where he he's that he's the drill account. Yeah. And he got he got a blue checkmark foisted on him. So he changed his handle to get rid of it.

And then it got put back on his account. And then he changed his handle again to get rid of it. And then it got put back on his account again. Which I feel. It's truly so pathetic. It's got to be Elon clicking a button or telling one of the visa holders he's holding hostage to press a button over and over again. Yeah.

Yeah. Listen, I will just say, I feel like I've been endorsing blocking people that give money to Twitter for several years now. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm so glad to see people getting on board with this practice because it is very gratifying. And it's just like, you know, this weekend,

I got like minor carpal tunnel from like the block spree, but it was worth it. I feel great. I mean, you kind of have to to make it usable because otherwise all the replies, because the blue check marks are get amplified in the reply. So you see those first. Otherwise all of the replies are just laugh, cry emoji after laugh, cry emoji. It's so good. Yeah. This is like, like watching them lose in the marketplace of ideas is so Good. Yeah. This is like watching them lose in the marketplace of ideas is so gratifying.

You're like, oh, I paid to be at the front of the line to be just stupid and uninteresting. It's great. Yeah. It's so many levels of bad idea. Like it was a bad idea for him to devalue the verification blue check by selling it. blue check by selling it and then to get rid of get rid of the verification check altogether to completely devalue the value of the thing that he was trying to sell in the first place and now his strategy is to like like punish people by giving them the thing that he claims is cool and is something you should want is it's really just galaxy brand i mean this guy must be working on so many different levels he's gotta have a lot of rockets that don't explode do you guys i'm gonna start asking this of like most of our guests because i'm just curious to hear do you think he is an idiot i am starting to suspect like i always had like this i'm like well you

know he's probably smart about some things and then like you know it's just stretches stretched too thin but like some of these people who claim he's a genius must like know what they're talking about and like more and more now i'm just like i think he might just be an idiot who was in the right place at the right time. You can't be the richest person in the world and be an idiot without everybody trying to cover up that fact because it puts the lie to the entire

system that our civilization rests on. They all have to be like, he's a genius, folks. Look at this car he didn't design. I think he has a very specific talent which is marketing things to people who are kind of gullible. To like VCs, right? Yes.

Yes, absolutely. I think he is good at blowing smoke up the asses of other rich idiots. Yeah. think he is good at blowing smoke up the asses of other rich idiots yeah i i think like he's good at i mean he's good at sort of doing weed thoughts like man what if ai like we gave ai a perspective on the universe then it won't kill us but he gets all those from other places like he just steals them from yeah yeah i mean there are there's still so the thing is he steals dumb things from other places like he just steals them yeah of course yeah yeah i mean there are there's still so the thing is he steals dumb things from other places which so you know the sort of cycle of stealing bad memes and reposting them as his own but yeah i mean i i do i don't think he's like he's certainly not a genius at anything right i don't think he's very smart at a lot of things.

I think he's an idiot at a lot of other things. I mean, at humor, he's the least funny person in the world. But I think his talent is specifically marketing and being a salesman for kind of dumb, rich people. Yeah, I think that's right. marketing and being a salesman for kind of dumb rich people. Yeah. I think that's right. But it's like, I, I think,

I don't know if he's unique. It's just that he had the sort of misfortune. It's obviously he's, his life is fine, but like he had the misfortune of being this person during internet times. Like, you know, Dale Carnegie,

I'm sure it was a fucking idiot too it's just that like we didn't he didn't feel compelled to like tell us every single one of his thoughts unfiltered by an editor right constantly yeah henry ford was a literal anti-semitic eugenicist yeah yeah and just like elon musk it's just that henry ford didn't have twitter right exactly yeah yeah yeah it's just like elon musk it's just that henry ford didn't have twitter right exactly yeah yeah he did put the anti-semitic nazi propaganda in cars that he sold in the glove box that's pretty what yeah that was his twitter he was like here you go but like celebrities are like they're so shamed by the blue checkmark. They're giving anti endorsements. Like they're saying, I did not pay for this shit.

Please don't think I paid for this shit. Even like, like I mentioned, like Ian McKellen, because he's like, he tweeted like, I didn't pay for this. And it's like, it's so embarrassing. Even someone like Ian McKellen, who I can't imagine is like super like up to date with all the ins and outs of Twitter. Like one of his probably his PR people is like, you got to tell them that you didn't pay for this. Yeah, it's truly a new level of marketing failure. Like we've never seen anything. I guess social media like makes it possible for things to like backfire

more significantly but like to see someone have an idea going in say what the idea is have everyone tell them that isn't going to work and then have it just like in a multi-stage to disaster just not work in the exact way everybody predicted is pretty impressive. It's like, honestly, well, because it's like, and you read all these, you know, Elon stans, like, they think they genuinely thought that the blue check made LeBron James cool, not LeBron James.

Like, I think they for real think that. And it's like, do you not understand? Like, how is your directionality on this so off? It's crazy. I mean, it's like Piers Morgan scolding Stephen King for not wanting to pay for Twitter given all the exposure that Twitter's given him. They fundamentally don't understand

that celebrities being on Twitter don't benefit that much from twitter yeah in fact i would argue it's been bad for them it's like ruined uh any of them that we were like oh they're actually pretty smart normal and then they start talking politics and you're like oh no buddy yeah yeah sorry Sorry, Katie, I interrupted you. Oh, no, no. It's just, yeah, I mean, it's like they bring value to the website, right? Because people log in, they want to see what, you know, what celebrities are posting.

So, you know, celebrities might do it somewhat because maybe it gives them a little bit of marketing power. You know, personally, I think a lot of it is just, you know, ego because it's fun to talk to your fans, fun to feel loved on Twitter. Everyone likes to feel, you know, get the get the adrenaline rush of like, hey, lots of people liked my post. That's cool. But they're not financially benefiting that much from Twitter. Twitter was financially benefiting from the celebrities pulling in the audience so then they could, you know, look at ads and stuff. But also they're apparently thinking of making

advertisers buy the blue check or something. And someone pointed out that now that people are running scripts to block all the blue checks, like that will also block all advertisers. Yeah, that's what I've been doing anyway. So it's really, my feed is, it's not nice and clean what i've been doing anyway so it's really my feet is it's not nice and clean but it is it's well it's the opposite but in a better way it is

pure bottom of the barrel like i've gone through any like you know blue chip advertiser any like whatever two three levels beyond that and now it's just garbage and lunatics. And it's, you know, very hilarious. Yeah. I wonder, like, the same way that Donald Trump is, like, jealous of all celebrities. And, like, I feel like that's the same place Elon Musk is coming from. Like, so he is coming in with this sort of misguided idea of how celebrity works that is just, likeped by him being like i'm actually like i should be the most famous one and like yeah and so it's i feel like that is how this massive blind spot ended up making this possible listen it's so listen billionaires obviously horrible people

but if you wanted to be a cool billionaire all you have to do is pay cool people and fucking throw parties and whatever yeah have someone cool handle it and you will be cool like that is you know cool enough and homelessness in just a city let's just pick a city not even doing good shit just by doing just dumb shit you could be cool he but thinks he actually needs to be the generator of the cool which is like not what his capital does just use your money to buy cool like every other fucking rich person's ever done yeah you know he's surrounded himself by the dumbest yes men the like the sycophants who themselves don't have good judgment to the point where he really believes he is funny and beloved and it's like but you look at actual elon fans

because there are elon fans right like it's not it's not entirely untrue that like some people like them but they are similarly have no sense of humor like their sense of humor is like laugh cry emoji yeah and that's it like they don't they don't understand how comedy works i feel like this happens maybe you don't understand how comedy works laugh cry emoji laugh cry emoji uh i have been owned yeah no i mean it's just that he's so you can tell he's like when he went on stage with Dave Chappelle and everyone booed him like he was not expecting that I don't know what to

do here Dave it was so great it's really and if you can't get fucking Dave Chappelle fans who are already like predisposed to like this bullshit. They're ready, man. That's unbelievable.

Yeah. Yeah. What a run. What a run. Katie, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist as always. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.

This was a blast. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. This was a blast. You can find me on my podcast creature feature about all the weirdest and wackiest animals in the world. I also am now the co-host of Secretly Incredibly Fascinating with absolute monster, Alex Schmidt. Thank you. Oh, my God. I'm so glad to be validated. Such a diva.

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Turns out chalkboards made by aliens. Listen to the episode to find out more. Wow. Yeah, you guys are lucky you dodged a tractor beam because I had a whole alien thing lined up. Oh, Andrew, you're guest hosting tomorrow,

so you might still catch that stray. Oh, yeah. I'm ready. It's going to be wonderful. I can't wait. Katie, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I have been enjoying oh i see yes uh actually i see yes you gotta you gotta squeeze the last bits of twitter out before it dies right like kind of get get that get that enjoyment out like the last drops out of a dying lemon.

And what I've been enjoying is this tweet that is, have you seen that photo of Alex Baldwin recently returned home with his wife Hilaria. I love calling him Alex Baldwin. That's great. Alex Baldwin.

Yeah. Alex is Baldwin. Alex Baldwin's wife Hilaria in his lap curled up like the littlest baby yeah and they're both sleeping his eyes are closed too right his eyes are closed he's like and he's got he looks sort of like a santa and he's he's got her in his lap And this is after his manslaughter charges were dropped. The photo itself is sort of a Renaissance era work of art. So I do appreciate that. Yeah.

But there's a tweet by Dennis Hogan who writes, this is actually a common way to pose for photos in Mallorca, Spain, where Hilaria is from. That's right. Andrew, where can people find you? Thank you so much for guest hosting. Oh, my God. Thanks for having me.

I guess I'm back on Twitter while I last said Andrew T. And podcast is Yo, Is This Racist? And our premium shows are at suboptimalpods.com we've been doing oh we have a very special i don't know when it's coming out i think it's coming out soon uh we had a little premium debate on big trouble in little china so get ready very dumb um yeah that's that's a good time that's it and is there a work media you've been

enjoying beyond you i just we're back on since we're back on Twitter here's a tweet I really liked of obviously about this whole Elon thing so sad he can make a car that blows up and a rocket that blows up but still can't write a tweet that blows up yeah got him from Daniel underscore Barker

very very good I'm gonna say some tweets I enjoyed too just because we're back just enjoy why you're back at jenny hogan underscore tweeted life is short okay fair but it's also the longest thing i've ever personally experienced and then just dan white at dan white at at dan white is just a delight and he he tweeted making friends with my neighbor david and then uh it's just a car uh twitter conversation dude what the fuck are you doing to your grass looks so good and then david says oh thanks man i don't know just watering i guess so fucking green yeah thanks

luscious shit too so fucking jealous thanks my fucking yard sucks don't you think question mark david don't you think my yard fucking sucks what no it's fine ha thanks man i hate these fucking losers on our street do you va vape? Maybe we should go to Topgolf sometimes. This motherfucker kills me. Also, are you guys watching Jury Duty? Speaking of energy. No, I heard it's good. No, but I got houseplants, so I relate hard to the lush stuff.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a show on Freebie. This is going to be my first freebie recommendation called Jury Duty that Ana Hosnia recommended and then a bunch of other people

recommended, finally watched it over the weekend I'm only a couple episodes in, but it has one of the biggest laughs I'm not going to say it check it out made me cross laugh anyways you can find

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