The Daily Zeitgeist - Tucker’s CGI Wood Twitter Aesthetic, Masturbation Explained? 06.08.23

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

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to make that happen yeah okay because i thought that was just like me and my friends caught that and thought it was really funny and we would always say it to each other but i just heard forget who was referencing it but a podcast i listened to someone's like here's your sign like oh that made it outside of my group of friends yeah oh but june 8th kind of a kind of we got it all today it's world World Oceans Day. It's National Name Your Poison Day. Sounds like something to do with a bar. National Best Friends Day. Also, World Pet Memorial Day. So pour one out, you know, for those pets.

Pour one out. Yeah, like Pete Davidson did for his mom's dog and then yelled at PETA for that. Yeah, yeah. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack sat at home in his two short shorts Totally emotionally focusing on sports Muscles tensed as he watched all the jumpers And that's when he exposed everyone to his plumpers

They're plump, they're plump, they're white like bread They're plump, they're plump, they're white like bread. They're plump, they're plump, they're plump, his kids have fled. Jack's shorts were bursting. We're going. Jack's shorts were bursting at the seams. That pallid flesh would haunt them all in their dreams. So white if they voted, they'd be Trumpers. Mere fabric can't contain the power of the

courtesy of one hugo bosque wow first first listener guest that we had on tuesday's episode not the first i mean that goes to christy yamaguchi man but yes for the for the occupation was christy yamaguchi man course. We will be having him back. Of course, at some point. If he's willing. Oh, he is. But yeah, shout out to Hugo Bosque. Thank you for that.

AKA to Lump, the President of the United States of America. And also Christy Yamaguchi-Mann did do a Lump Plumpers AKA earlier on. So I do not want to engage in any Christy yabaguchi man erasure okay good hey miles i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles oh wow thank you so much for having me uh again today let's see i'm miles gray aka come from grimace come come from grimace happy birthday kid here's a cup full of his business okay shout out to scouty magoo we we've we fucked up by even evoking the idea of grimace excretion purple milkshake has to be grimace come i think we can get our guest involved in this conversation but i'm pretty sure it has to be

grimace yeah but anyway shout out scouty magoo and all of the wild grimacing that y'all hit on on discord i will i will go through them with a fine-tooth comb. You sick motherfuckers. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian. Yes, sir. Who you've seen on TV in Insecure on Comedy Central doing stand-up. The Great American Joke-Off. His album Happening in My Head just dropped in April.

It's Luke Moniz! Oh, my God. Thank you you guys so i'm so hyped i mean this is like uh frankly i was ready for uh parody songs the whole episode i was yeah i was hoping we'd stick with lump that entire time or that entire time i mean i thought it was i was like i think we're on verse three and i'm like i'm about to lean back and just enjoy this yeah right start you end it with you're like well lu, it's been great having you on, man. Where can people find you? I'd be like, what the fuck?

I'm saying for 45 minutes. Yeah. I mean, that's what I was, but I mean, I'd be cool with that. But I have to ask just to, just for, thank you for having me one and two, just for clarity's sake. What are we referring to with plumpers? Uh, they are my thighs. Okay. A big thick thighs. I gotta be honest with you i'm just

gonna i'm just gonna lay it all i feel like i need to lay it bare i need to be vulnerable i picked up thighs on verse two but verse one for some reason i think i'm perhaps not alone perhaps the rest of america will join me in thinking that they were talking about balls balls yeah that's when he exposed everyone to the plumpers. Yeah. Well, when you're exposing, yeah, it has that vibe to it. It ties into that listener is also a Domino's pizza delivery person who is constantly, we had him on for an interview earlier this week. for an interview earlier this week and apparently once every couple months somebody comes to their door and exposes themselves to him yeah and he's like unsure they don't they don't react

they just have no pants on and they're just like yeah this is happening i think that's like a thing i think that people i think that there's a. I think that's where our flashers went. Yeah. Yeah. They use the dominoes, mainly dominoes. It's not, no other delivery.

It's not Amazon. They use dominoes delivery as a way to kind of, uh, complete their sort of, uh, voyeuristic to, to fulfill their voyeuristic fantasies. Yeah.

Not voyeuristic. What is it? the opposite. Uh, X yeah. Exhibitionist. Exhibitionist is what i was looking for i was almost said expositional hey hey well it's great to have you here yeah uh thanks for joining us

you're coming thanks for having me guys oh yeah on the road my favorite i just gotta say what the first thing of clip i saw of you because we're in the age of seeing comedians in clips uh was when you said you were more of an emperor guy, but like liking star Wars as a star Wars fan, I was like, watch. He was like, yes.

Thanks. Yeah. You know, what's so funny is like that, that bit, like that bit, like, I feel like a lot of comedians had this.

I certainly had that bit just like never worked. And people always like audiences just stared blankly as I tried doing that right and then one day it just kind of worked and i like started doing it and then like i was like i have no idea what the secret sauce was that got people to laugh at that but for i would say for like many months i was just saying that and people were just appalled inside so thank you why for thank you for uh yeah seeing me there yeah yeah of course of course i was just thinking about how how the the emperor went out without much of a fight like what what was going on with him when darth vader just like picked him up and threw him over was like are we to understand that when he's doing force lightning it's like

an orgasm of some sort and like he can't really like come back to his body or because he just lets him throw him over the over the edge right spoilers yeah what the fuck dude but i'm just like a little disappointed in him because he is such a good big bad for the whole trilogy. And then he's just like, and now I'm frozen! I can't do anything!

Yeah, you know, I never thought about that. I think orgasm probably is the best comp for Force Lightning. It'd be great if the Emperor was killing Luke Skywalker. He was like oh even luke's like dude whoa what yo what

even the guys in the red helmet and ropes like hey you got chill they like just see them like suddenly look at each other yeah oh man oh he's doing it again, man. Yeah, that is... I never thought about that, but that's probably why he... Well, maybe he knew that he was going to come back in The Rise of Skywalker, just kind of magically. He's like, I'll just not die eventually. Right, right, right.

Oh, I didn't even know that happens. I haven't seen three or nine for some reason. I just never got around to it so wow don't see nine don't see nine yes that's what i've heard it's kind of good if you know you're gonna laugh at how fucking dumb it gets at the end maybe but of course could just be terribly upsetting anyway it doesn't matter what i said anyways welcome to star wars talk luke uh thrilled to have you can i make one more point about that yeah please because you guys got me going so you blame yourselves but yeah always

the the guy i think ian mcdermott the guy who plays palpatine is like in his 60s now which Which means that when he played the emperor in 1983, he was like 26. And like, what the fuck? Why doesn't anybody talk about that? Like a hot young actor in his 20s. We want to give you just the grossest makeup. He's like, can't you just get an older guy? They're like, well, we're going to make another movie in literally 40 years. That is true.

That's amazing foresight on that. Literally incredible foresight. Yeah. All right. Luke, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Sorry for pausing on the emperor. No, I'm the one who brought it up to begin with. So it's all on me. Little housekeeping up top. We're doing a new publication sketch for the summer. Eight episodes a week. One episode on Monday. One episode on Friday.

Tuesday morning's episode are going to be like some weird evergreen, not weird, but just we're interviewing listeners and we're interviewing experts and all kinds. But if you want to be a listener guest, tell us about your job. Tell us, you know, things that people don't know about your job, the craziest shit that ever happened to you on your job. We had a veterinary pathologist right in for our first episode about investigating a bag of dead bald eagles that turned out to be caked in cocaine. And then and then, yeah, we talked to Hugo Bosque from the discord about it. It's great. What's great is like every time we ask y'all for to like submit everyone writes in and already it's like

we got someone who's like a prosecutor in florida we got someone who's like what was the latest one oh like sex workers we have like custodial staff there's so many interesting people that trust this is we're really we love you all equally thank you so much and yeah we'll be talking to y'all in the coming days today some things we're talking about we're talking about uh the utah book banning and why it's dumb and why what somebody did to kind of undermine it in a pretty brilliant way the debut of tucker on twitter which should be read with a fully wooden deck background for for some reason god he's going so hard on the wood he's a regular guy is that supposed to just read as like american masculinity like it's just like

it's wood man you know yeah fuck yeah okay well good for him he's also got pool cues behind him yeah yeah he's just he is hanging out in the lodge where harlan crow and clarence thomas hang out like yeah on their vacation hey speaking of going so hard on the wood people have been masturbating for millions of years a study has found i find this study to be weird and it seems like i don't know well we'll talk under no shit like we've found yeah exactly followed under no shit but they're also like there's some assumptions baked in that like it's weird that we masturbate kind of like it seems like they're like well why did our masturbating like branch of the evolutionary chain thrive while others didn't and i'm just like no all of them were

masturbating every everything that has hands is masturbating guys what are you talking about but anyways we'll talk about that we'll talk about maybe the new captain america reboot which they've had to change the name on a couple other things but before we get to any of that shit luke we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history yeah so uh i've i've thought about this because there's a couple of things over the last 24 hours that i really i felt i could present to you but uh one thing i was i mean i feel like this is a no judgment zone for like fucked up internet stuff. So I feel like I can just come here and just lay it bare. But I was on the Wikipedia page for I get in a big my biggest Wikipedia hole is like oldest people in the world.

And it changes all the time because they die and like new ones replace and they're always coming up. And so, yeah, I would say right now uh my jam is googling oldest people in the world or oldest people in america or oldest like i think the last veteran of world war one died i mean is this weird i mean is this the no there's gotta be way weirder ones people have said oh yeah yeah yeah okay oh yeah yeah no this is just you know what mudlarking is hey man you know you know what mudlark you up on mudlarking bro hit me with the mudlarking is? Hey, man, you know what mudlarking is? You up on mudlarking, bro? Hit me with the mudlarking definition. That's just like people who dig in the mud looking for stuff on riverbanks and shit.

Yeah. We did like 40 minutes on that one time. Yeah. Yeah. Trust me. Don't worry about it. Okay. I feel way more normal.

Wait, but who is the old... Yeah, well, I mean, I'm going to ask you as if you know, and I don't want to see those hands typing, Luke. Oh, jeez. I got one. Who currently holds the mantle of oldest person on earth? Yeah, so the oldest person right now, her name is Maria Brañas Morera. She was born in 1907. Wow.

She lives in Catalonia, Spain in a nursing home, and she runs her own Twitter. Hey, so do I. No. Big deal. You think that's impressive? Yeah. Loser. Let's see you do some shit posts, man.

Yeah. Wait, so what is that? 117 years old? Well, you said 1907, so 116? I believe she's 116. Have you seen that video of this old, like Thai monk? Who's like in the,

yeah. Who like, I've, it's like this clip of this time monk and like a little girl's playing with them. And it looks like an animated skeleton. Yeah. That guy,

I think, unfortunately everyone is like, that's another one of those guys who it's, it's, it's interesting because it's always like often it's like holy men who lie about being the oldest man in the world but i think like that guy has been like deep oh really because once in a while that guy was in his 20s like ever palpatine yeah no but once in a while a guy will come, like a holy man will come along and be like, I'm the oldest man in the world. And everyone is like, no, you're not. And then he just kind of goes, you're right. And then he's that easy. My bad. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 81. Sorry about that. I'm really old, though. Right, guys guys like that is it feels old it feels old

yeah all right i'm not 155 you got me yeah at a certain point like people just look old as hell and if they if they're like i'm actually 115 i'd buy it yeah i mean this guy does look 109 109 years old that is truly is that's skeletal skeletor with like a loose flat like coating of skin okay there are holes in his cheek this does look like an animatronic from like indiana or something pirates of the caribbean okay that i think i'm thinking of a different guy because this guy looks 109 as hell. That guy looks, that's what I'm saying. Like this dude looks a legit man. You're looking 109 as hell. It would have broke my heart if Luke, if you busted that, you're like, dude, that guy, no fucking 72.

Dude, that guy looks insane. Just super fast metabolism. That's all. He's never put on a single pound. I mean, that guy looks like you could do. I mean, he looks like he's just half an inch from dying, like any sort of like even moment heavy wind. Yeah, anything. Yeah, truly. And then they just like bring children by to pet him. Just to juxtapose him. The videos of a child runs up and he just reaches his hand out and generally pats at them. And then another child runs up and does the same

thing. When I saw the little girl grab his hand, I'm like, easy, easy, easy. I want to be sideshow attraction old. That's what I'm going for. Why not? Yeah, but that's got to be sideshow attraction old. That's what I'm going for. Why not? Yeah. Yeah, but that's got to be like not the tenure on that position.

Oldest person in the world has to be among the shortest tenured positions. So true. You know, you're not going to be hanging out that long. You know, you're in the waiting room if that's what's going on. Right. Yeah. Yeah. When you get the call up to the varsity team.

Yeah. The big one. What's something you think is overrated luke oh man another thing i've been uh i've been wrestling with something i think is overrated i'm gonna say the push for metaverse stuff. I, these Apple glasses, they got me kind of freaked out. I've been, I watched that promo video. Yeah. The 10 minute one. Yeah.

I got a little, it, it kind of scared me. And I was like, I think that the, the public appetite for this, even if it's not like global yet, even if it's still like the tech,

big tech kind of pushing it on us i'm still like this is massively overrated i feel like this is going to turn us into the wally oh yeah society yeah i had that thought i was like wally missed because they still have screens in front of them that they're looking at at a distance i mean this is what it's going to be unfortunately the goggles are i mean i actually think that google glass was like the club even though it looked kind of dorky it was like the closest thing to like i can't i'm surprised i think it was just a little early but yeah these big goggles i mean these look extremely goofy i know yeah you're gonna see people at the airport walking with these big goggles on it's gonna oh yeah you're gonna see people at the airport walking with these big

goggles on it's gonna be like you're gonna see them at the airport like in a month wearing that and it's uh it's pretty amazing anyways having said that i did pre-order five five pairs but nice i mean to me i'm like i was like this is the sickest tv ever that is how when i saw that i was like what if i blew up watching whatever the fuck i'm watching they're like when this is the sickest TV ever. That is how, when I saw that, I was like, what if I blew up watching whatever the fuck I'm watching? They're like, when they did the thing, it was like, what if it was a hundred foot screen and you're on a lake in Switzerland? And I was like, whoa.

That's true. Yeah, that's like, that is the only thing I'm like, that's cool. However, I'm not gonna spend $3,500 on that, but I can see just like to everyone's point, the slippery slope it causes and like cut to some airport and you have people missing their flights and shit. Cause they've like passed out in their fucking vision goggles or whatever.

And yeah, I didn't even think about that. You know, as you said, the a hundred foot screen thing, I'm like, Oh, this is going to kill the movie theater.

Right. It is. It's going to kill so, so so many things it's just like further allows you to completely disassociate into a like cellular existence and like just makes it so cool to be in a room by yourself doing absolutely nothing i've uh i've become one of these people who like i'm very big on proselytizing to everyone I meet about like the dangers of, uh, AI and kind of,

you know, being the trying to set. I'm not trying to make myself sound like I'm ahead of the time. I feel like everybody else, a lot of other people are doing this too, but like, I feel like AI chat, UPT,

all this shit is going to like fundamentally disrupt our society and economy more than COVID did by like a long shot. I feel like this is going to like fundamentally disrupt our society and economy more than covid did by like a long shot i feel like this is going to be insane and destructive and there will be a lot of good that comes from it but like i feel like you know this is kind of a cousin of that where i'm like oh we're not paying attention to how much yeah this is going to change things and like kill jobs and probably maybe kill people. Yeah. I feel like the Vision Pro goggles or whatever, it's like easier to see where that goes.

I think for some people, like AI is still like kind of obscure to them where they're like, I don't know. It seems kind of cool. Whereas like I think like you're saying it's like this is WALL-E. This is Black Mirror. Remember the thing we have examples of how we enter a tech dystopia or maybe the Matrix where everyone's a battery and like in their own little pod at some point. Yeah, it's true.

It's like the beginning of them. Yeah, it really is like the, it's like our first footstep into living in a completely digital way. And I think they call it something else, right? Like they invented their own term that I saw at the Apple event that I'm forgetting now, but it's not augmented reality.

It's like enhanced reality or something. Enhanced reality feels like what it will be called. Yeah. It is so funny to me, like just in retrospect, looking at like when Mark Zuckerberg released his version of this, it looked like it looked like

it was 15 years old and it was just like such dog shit it just looked like such shit and then apple drops this and it's like oh yeah i mean that's that makes sense like if mark zuckerberg was like going as hard as he has been on the metaverse after releasing this product, I'd be scared. I'd be like, oh, wow, this is really powerful. But he just dropped some first iteration of Wii-level shit. Like the Nintendo Wii. Everything inside that looks like a Nintendo Wii. One generation below it.

We actually just improved on reality yeah yeah fuck having an avatar just how about you watch avatar on a thousand foot screen in the in the ocean yes but i feel like zuckerberg at least his like instinct of like people are going to be on this maybe that was correct even though he's like diverting billions of meta dollars into this like goofy like it looks like in the office when Dwight

created a second life character it looks worse than that yeah it's like if you've seen jury duty it's like the defense attorney's video that he shows. Every time you say Jury Duty, I think of the Pauly Shore movie. I don't know.

That too. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. What's everyone else talking about? Yeah. Biodome. Luke, it's a real biodome situation. Everything. These Apple Glow.

I'm like, I mean, think think about it we're all going to be living in biodomes and then we'll come out as virtual encino men because we haven't been in society next thing you know i'm fighting in the global wars because i'm in the army now i'm like wow these guys love polysure you guys like so much shit how have you been wheezing the juice lately yeah uh what's going on buddy are you are you uh are you married are you a good son-in-law luke what is something you think is underrated oh man what is something i think is underrated i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with like-off Crocs. Yeah.

What do you mean by that? Just off-brand Crocs or literal fake fraudulent Crocs? That's also an option. I'm going to go off-brand Crocs because I feel like I love a Croc. I feel like I was in the first wave of people to bring them back. Okay. I feel like I was in the first wave of people to bring them back. Okay. I'm also in the, I was also, I feel like among the first people to vocalize that Crocs are edible. I'm not saying you should eat your Crocs, but you know, they are edible.

They're made of this like corn fiber that like you could eat if you needed to eat them. And I feel like, uh, wait, are they? Oh yeah. Give that a fact check. Cause I'm 90% sure that's true. I got an argument. Eat Crocs in investigation. Yeah. Vice, uh, or should, Give that a fact check because I'm 90% sure that's true. I got an argument. Eat Crocs in investigation.

Yeah. Or should let me. Okay, keep going and I'll let you know when I get. Okay, thank you. Yeah. I think they did it. The Department of Defense did something. No, anyway.

But I have off-brand Crocs I got for like $20 on Amazon and it's, it served me well. And you know, the Yeezy brand kind of made their own Croc, but now I feel like that's a problematic Croc to wear. So I'm sticking with my Amazon brand Crocs. I feel like that's super underrated and it needs to be more and more widely accepted. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think it's funny how like everybody, there's just so many, like at this point, when you say off-brand Crocs, we're just all kind of into the idea of like kind of chunky round slippers and we're like yeah yeah why not why not why not like they're comfortable like i have like some amazon big chunky foam like sandals that i'm like these are so fucking comfortable they're like totally off-brand but i'm like this it's the comfort, baby. But they are not edible. So maybe they are.

Maybe they're not. Maybe they're properly rated. But in my mind, I was just like, I always felt like Crocs are becoming like Kleenex, where it's like the brand is almost the name of the wider thing now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. This is something a rep from Crocs. Yeah, I think they are actually become that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. This is something a rep from Crocs... Yeah, I think they are actually become that. When asked about the edibility of Crocs,

a representative of the company said, quote, although Crocs are non-toxic, there is little, if any, nutritional value in the material you use. Nobody thinks there's nutritional value. So it's kind of cryptic. Then he goes, the edibility is a rumor

said to have started with a camp counselor who boiled a Croc and cut it into pieces so it was doing the actual shoot with candy before he fed it to the camp children. But they said, no, I'm like, you could kind of, I guess they're just saying like, I mean, if you want to eat it, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like celery. It's like, it's fine. No vitamins, but eat it. Yeah. It's fine. Fun enough. Yeah, man. When I went shopping at the mall for christmas like the one store that was

absolutely just like had people like pouring in and out was like crocs was doing better business than the apple store it was oh yeah that's awesome yeah i was i was like the coolest uncle because i got my nephew minecraft crocs like because i bought one pair of crocs and then like now i get emails all the time they're like hey the new minecraft collab and i was like this seems like the perfect thing for like a 10 year old and yeah yeah yeah i got the the most gratitude i got for a gift in the past like probably couple years was from my mother-in-law being the good son-in-law wheezing the juice and got, got her some Crocs with the little gibbets gibbets. Yeah. And she was very charmed by that.

So, because they do call them charms as well. There you go. I'm just thinking of the Crocs flagship store at the mall, uh, having like a Crocs genius bar where people are like helping you come up. Hey, can we help you?

Or you bring in your crocky? Like, I don't know what to do with this. Oh, you're you're pretty sure yeah why don't you pop your shoe off right now let me show you yeah a guy in a blue shirt like putting me putting putting my foot through the crock you know right just like wow you guys are so helpful how long did you train and also wait hold on it looks like you got some gibbets there do you want you want me to help you put those on while you're here today oh i thought we would save that for next time. Really?

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sex in or something i want it out of the school um and so one parent was like oh this is an interesting system and basically was thinking like well if you think tony morrison's beloved is so fucked up what about your own fucking book of incestuous ghost stories, a.k.a. the Bible? So basically a parent submitted the Holy Bible for review, basically being like, this shit is all over the place. This is what the parent wrote in their complaint to the school. They said, I thank the Utah legislature and Utah Parents United

for making this bad faith process so much easier and way more efficient. Now we can all ban books and you don't even need to read them or be accurate about it. Heck, you don't even need to see the book. Seeding your children's education, first amendment rights and library access to a white supremacist hate group like the Utah Parents United seems like a wonderful idea for a school district literally under investigation for being racist. And then they go in as I noticed there's a gap though utah parents united left one of the most sex-ridden books around the bible incest onanism bestiality uh prostitution genital mutilation fellatio dildos like goes on infanticide you'll no doubt find the bible under utah code blah blah blah has quote no serious value for minors end quote because it's pornographic by our new definition so get

this porn out of our schools if the books that have been banned so far are any indication for way lesser offenses this should be a slam dunk wow so guess what i did not know about the dildos in the bible that was my takeaway from that yeah and i'm like literally about to search dildo bible uh it's probably gonna come up with something else yeah guess what they banned the bible wow yeah so really well done well done which is like one of those things where you're like wait hold on what are we doing here i mean because i think most people are thinking surely that will you know catalyze a conversation about like what's going on but it was just like yeah okay cool yeah the blade can come both ways with this like just knee-jerk way of doing things so now the parent is going to follow up with the book of latter-day saints or the book of mormon to actually be like all right

let's test your gangster now see if you're going to ban this one too so this is just like it's really odd because again i think you'd hope that that would like in your logic you're like well then we're getting rid of your bible they're like well no yeah they're like yeah go ahead then you're like oh my god so this is just gonna be a cynical race to the fucking bottom if it keeps up like this oh totally i'm sure that parent who was trying to make a point it was like oh okay well i guess let's also ban book of mormon yeah right and we'll see where that goes i think it's revealing that they're good with the book the the banning of the bible because like they're not for any reading you know they don't want their kids like knowing anything

because they don't want them asking difficult questions about the dildo in the bible right so yeah this is fine with them and then they'll just like we'll we'll just make some shit up when our kids ask questions but we want our kids dumb and uninformed and like under our control essentially uh there's yeah there's some dildos in here. In the book of Ezekiel, God is pissed about Israel's idolatry. I had to just go back into my mind and just be like... Wait, idolatry? Is that what they were doing with the false idols?

I don't know. Again, that's what I'd do. Yeah. Such as all the jewelry that Judah, the town, who is described as an adulterous wife, I guess, as a metaphor for some reason is turning into dildos. They quote, you also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them. Oh, OK. Yeah, I can see how that would be a weird way to describe that.

I mean, yeah, dildos is idle. You can spell dildos with idle. You just got to add a D. Oh, shit. I never thought about that. Da Vinci code shit. Yeah. The whole thing is just a word jumble.

And that's how all the greatest minds of all time have operated, is just through local newspaper-level word jumbles for you to solve. Yeah, that's a great Da Vinci Code sequel is Robert Langdon just trying to prove that people are fucking themselves. Right. The search for the first dildo, the first holy dildo. Yeah. Well, Robert, the crypt text. But they're like, wait, it's a dildo the first holy dildo yeah well robert the crypt text or whatever but they're like wait it's a dildo we never thought of this this episode certainly has a jerk-off theme because our next uh story is tucker carlson is up on twitter he dropped the first episode of his new Twitter show, which is apparently all being filmed inside a remote cabin

in the middle of the woods. Yeah. Yeah. The set is terrible. I just want to play the intro the first couple seconds because he has the energy of like a early aughts YouTube vlogger. The whole thing feels very it's so and the pacing so fucked up like this goes to show i mean you aren't don't you have like a ton of money

like is anyone making this but anyway here's the beginning of it hey it's tucker carlson this morning that's already too much hey okay i'll give it one more time. Hey, it's Tucker Carlson. This morning, it looks like somebody blew up the Kukovka Dam in southern Ukraine. Wait, like, nice intro. You just left Fox. This is supposed to be your big comeback. And you just go like, hey, Tucker Carlson, somebody blew up a dam. Yeah, no intro. I also have to point out from watching it it just now it sounds like for a guy

who was look i'm not saying my audio is perfect i'm not saying my levels are perfect but for a guy who makes 25 million dollars a year as a broadcaster he's certainly got a lot of echo in there yeah very tinny well i guess again he chose probably one of the worst acoustic environments just solid wood reflect it's like everything's reflective. But this is, I guess that's the vibe because wood equals American man. I mean, that does seem to be a decision he's making because at the end of the 10 minute long show,

the camera pans out and it's revealed that there's literally nobody in the room with him. And he's just like using a mouse to scroll through a teleprompter. Yeah. Like he's just by himself. So I think like that's what he's trying to prove a little bit. Like listen to how shitty this audio is. But like that's not a win.

Like again, because this whole thing is like he's like I'm off. Like the reason I'm on Twitter is because there's no gatekeepers here. You know, and he's like, this is going to be the shortwave radio of the future or some shit. And but again, you don't even have like the sort of same production quality. I don't know. It just it just it just reads as I'm alone completely and isolated. And also, obviously, a complete fucking, you know, like that and also obviously a complete fucking you know like that it's a complete fabrication he has somebody doing his makeup and doing his hair and all that shit

like they're hiding just off screen just because he's operating his own teleprompter but surely does not mean that he's doing this all by himself. Also, like, let's be very clear. Like the those windows behind him aren't windows like this is like still a set, even if he's at a cabin. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because lighting would be a nightmare. You could tell at the end of the video that it's like, oh, that's clearly a fake backdrop. So he's in.

They've built him a little studio and they've put pool cues behind him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the, this, I'm sorry, listeners, but I'm just going to look at the last shot here. And it's just like, I'm sorry. I'm now I'm like, are those actually pool cues? Are they like walking sticks? Like walking sticks.

Does he live in the walking stick rack? Okay. All right, Bilbo. So you're out there doing your one-man show with like your windows quote unquote that are just looks like shitty lcd tvs or something yeah those are not there's no way especially look at the one on the left i mean that is that looks like when you look at a screen from the side because the viewing angle becomes a little too acute uh but anyway uh but tucker great to see you going off on you know homophobiaophobia and anti-Semitism pretty much straight off the bat with this first episode.

Yeah, just coming with the conspiracies. It's like Tucker Carlson's conspiracy theory hour. So he starts off saying that this dam was an act of terrorism by Ukraine. He also, this is a direct quote. What exactly happened on 9-11? Oh, you don't know? What exactly happened on 9-11? Oh, you don't know? What exactly happened on 9-11?

Well, it's still classified. How did Jeffrey Epstein make all that money? How did he die? How about JFK? And so endlessly on. Yeah, then he said, who organized those Black Lives Matter riots three years ago? Yeah. No one's gotten to the bottom of that. It's called public outrage.

Right. Who organized those Black Lives Matters? That's so fucking... The police state organized it by creating something that people were reacting to? I guess maybe that looked no further than the police, Tucker. Who was the mastermind behind all of this Black Lives Matter outrage?

Couldn't have been people's just inherent sense of justice. But yeah, it barely cracked free bird length. It was mostly dedicated to like. So he claims that Ukraine blew up the Kukovka Dam, not Russia. And then he like says that Lindseyham is attracted to the rat like zielinski it's just like it really feels like he's getting you're doing two for one right there yeah you're going homophobic and anti-semitic with just one go right there it's just wearing my brain out yeah truly uh but it's just also funny to think like, you know, I don't know if people remember in World War II

the Russians also blew up a dam in Ukraine. There is a slight history of that in the Dnipro River. But yeah, I mean, now I think most people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, because that helps Ukraine. That's why they do it. It's not because, you know, Russia's

trying to like do something to slow down like a counter offensive or whatever. Anyway, it's just funny to see how he always comes back to these like pro-russia talking points yeah and it was immediately like picked up by russian state tv so he's he's doing his job there i guess yeah what i wonder what kind of ad deal they've worked out between the kremlin and twitter and how all this is working. I mean, that's like, I don't know what it's, it can't just be that Tucker Carlson has like a tremendous love for Vladimir Putin. No, probably not.

It's like he's defying even his own logic at times with like how pro-Russia he'll be. So like a lot of people are like, there's got to be compromise or something or money or whatever. I'm like, I don't know. It's hard to know. Or his worldview just is in line, is aligned with what he thinks. Like, well, if I can use my influence to get more people to think Russia is like, that we should be doing more things like

Russia, then maybe that's like a way to begin, I don't know, weakening the American psyche or something. I don't know. Maybe they have a syndication deal. The way that, like, the real thing that makes sitcom writers, like like generationally wealthy is like the fact that there's always a Simpsons on at any time. Right. At any point in the day.

Maybe that's what he's got going. Could be. Well, we'll see what episode two looks like and what kind of terrible things that come out of his mouth. But they say that video got like 65 million views or something. Did it really? Yeah. I mean, it's huge. But well, because Elon Musk like tweeted and he's like boosting it.

Right. Yeah. He boosted it. And also, as we know, like he fired like when his posts weren't getting enough interaction or whatever traction. And someone was like, I think it might be, if you like, look at these metrics here,

it indicates that people don't fuck with you. Also the Superbowl was happening that day. Right. So there's that part. And then he fired that person who said that. That's so funny. Oh my God. Yeah.

I think this is just going to be a thing. I wouldn't put it past Twitter to do what like Facebook was doing with video views, like back in the funny. Oh, my God. Yeah, I think this is just going to be a thing. I wouldn't put it past Twitter to do what, like, Facebook was doing with video views, like, back in the 10s. Oh, yeah. Where they're like, oh, yeah, it's 65 million views right there. It's like maybe you pushed it to 65 million accounts or something. But, like, I mean, I saw, like, people quote tweeting and other things. I never watched it until earlier this morning because I just wanted to see the intro.

But yeah, whatever. I mean, it's not beyond what is believable to think that millions of people did watch that shit. Oh, 100%. I mean, 5 million watch the show normally, but 65 million, I'm like, what are we counting as a view right now exactly there really is a lot like that facebook 2016 vibe yeah yeah exactly it's like it was on for two seconds while

you scrolled that's a full watch all right now bring us your ad dollars whoops what do we do to everyone so insane but like what a straight like going back to the idea that he's acting in somebody else's interest and not just trying to launch a show, to open your first episode with conspiracy theories that are pro-Russia and you're trying to appeal... Is that in line with the Fox News orthodoxy like i know they were a little bit less on board than you know the mainstream media with regards to like the ukraine like you know pro-ukraine stuff but i think they got into it over that like his pro-russianists like yeah push them to be like easy dude like if you're trying to expose this to a bunch of new people to like try and grow your audience and the first thing is like this you know kind of convoluted ukraine conspiracy theory like it just feels like a weird decision i'm hoping i'm hoping he he fucked up in that respect and that everyone's like all right well this is boring like yeah your conspiracy theories aren't even interesting it starts off too with

like putin became like when Trump was president. Right. It was hard to say Putin was a bad guy because Trump loved him so much. So to point out that Vladimir Putin was like an autocratic despot would be like, oh, you're like Joe Biden now. And I think it's like that was the beginning because he always he'd always be like, why is Vladimir Putin seen as such a bad guy? And like that's I remember he started doing that shit when Trump was in office because that was like cover for Trump right and then it became a thing where it's like and then as the war uh like heated up that just became a thing that Joe Biden was trying to do as foreign policy so then he's just like suddenly like pro-Russia in that sense where maybe you could have been more like anti-war but hey look do you who organized these black

lives matter protests who what what really happened on 9-11 was it ukraine did ukraine do 9-11 did ukraine was it zielinski right oh my gosh all right let's take a quick break yeah and we'll come back and find other ways to talk about jack offs and jerking off and that sort of thing. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes!

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podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And as promised, a new study has, quote, traced the origins of masturbation all the way back to ancient primates. Wow. Shut up. I hate the person who wrote this. I've traced the origins of masturbation. Okay. I'm sorry.

Go on. To ancient primates? Apparently, this behavior was present a whopping 40 million years ago, even before high-speed internet existed. According to one of the researchers, it is an ancient evolved trait. Ancient? Is this like mystical now?

If they discovered masturbation wasn't present in any form of humanity that had fingers and a hand i that would be the surprising thing but being like we this one goes all the way to the top folks we really like people have been masturbating for a long time it's like yeah that yeah no shit like and have you ever had a pet like any like animals are frequently uncomfortably horny like i was just yeah i'm watching a i'm dog sitting right now and i'm pretty sure the dog has been sucking its own dick and on on top of that i'm going well basically any any human i would say any animal that can suck its own dick is sucking its own dick.

Yes, we can just assume that. That is like a mathematical certainty. Yeah, right. That's like, exactly. That is a certainty that if you can, if somebody can suck their own dick, they are sucking their own dick. This is wild because like,

I don't even know if it's like ancient because like there's documentation that fetuses masturbate in the womb right so it's like that's like one of it's like it like even goes beyond like even in the external world it's like one of your first acts it's like a living creature that's hilarious how do they find that imagine the first ultrasound where they were like what's he doing oh that's just his arm oh nothing nothing nothing nothing get this lady what the fuck's going on in there? But yeah, apparently like, yeah, this has been like, I think like in the 80s or something

was the first time they, you know, people saw it like on a sonogram. Yeah. The mom is like, I feel like kicking. They're like, those aren't kicks. Oh, yeah. Those aren't kicks, ma'am. It's kicking like a bunch, like in a really rapid succession. Wow.

Like thumper yeah but this so they poured over hundreds of publications personal notes about masturbating primate primates from primatologists and zookeepers and like they're also like we found it baffling that no one had properly researched this topic already and i like what the fuck are you talking about it's just it's so common for the reason that it feels good and people can do it and there's nothing wrong with it yeah right like what it's like it's like it's like we've traced back the origins of waking up in the morning yawning and stretching your arms out like this ah yeah that's what it feels like other animals do it too yeah yeah even yeah i don't understand the origin of like

how do they even go back that far number one and what would make them think that any animal wasn't doing that right that's the so that's the thing so they have this whole section about like how they have these theories about the evolutionary reasons why male primates, because like, obviously, it boosted the chances of impregnating a mate. Basically, you like start yourself off and then you come first in like a group sex situation. And also they're like, and possibly, you know, if there's an outbreak of venereal disease, it can flush the tracks and make for, you know, a healthier sexual environment. Right. I mean, is that just, but is that just because like, it's not like the primates were like, Hey man, you should get checked out, man. You want to go jacked off by the tree to just make sure you're good. Like, or is it that all the jacking off primates survived the venereal disease outbreak? You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, the horniest

ones got through. That's their theory. So their theory, I don't think they're saying it was a strategic decision. Sure, sure, but that's how it works. The way that natural selection works is that a group that has this

random you know evolutionary trait happens to survive better so like i'm not suggesting that they're saying like everybody got together in a huddle and no no guys we figured this thing out but i like that idea though it does assume that we were part of a peculiar branch of the evolutionary tree that masturbated, like that we were different and masturbating. And like that, therefore, it must have given us an evolutionary advantage over the other animals. Whereas like my assumption is that there was not a single branch of the evolutionary tree that wasn't masturbating except ones that didn't have hands. It's just such a natural thing. If they can't, sure.

But that probably gets a little complicated to be the reason this group without hands didn't survive is because they couldn't crank off before and after sex. Why this particular fish didn't make it through the Jurassic era.

Yeah. But it does feel like this is coming from an angle of like, where did we get this weird behavior from? Yeah. As opposed to like, this is a natural thing that feels good to animals and therefore they all do it it

feels like benefits feels like they came up with this paper in like middle school when everyone was still pretending that they didn't jerk off i just like it's just so funny too like how just the concept of masturbation seems so like across the board from like in the in the fucking womb to animals or whatever because i'm pretty sure you can google fucking any animal in the word masturbate and you'll get something like i just googled i just googled squirrel masturbate just now i've never done that ever before i just did this now for this now so stop asking but immediately listeners you can pull the last time he said that because well you well you know that

he's been saying i just happened to google that one just because i was curious and just just why the fuck am i on trial man um but there were immediately articles and pictures about squirrels masturbating like and this one was saying like squirrels do it to help clear their you know their pipes and help ward off STIs and stuff. I got to write down some of these defenses. Yeah. Please, please do. Take them with you.

It feels good. It helps me clear my pipes. Yeah. Thank you. What's the problem? I'm sorry. I didn't know it was looked down upon. I guess I shouldn't do it on the bus.

Yeah. Pardon me. Yeah. Keep it to yourself't do it on the bus. Yeah. Pardon me. Keep it to yourself, but it's fine, everyone. Don't let this paper make you feel weird. All animals do it and it makes them feel good, sir, please. Please get out of the library. But they wouldn't have survived without it.

This is the most human behavior. Observe the bonobo. Observe the bonobo. Observe the bonobo. You're not going to survive this subway ride. Why don't you get off? All right. And finally, I'm not sure how we're going to pull this one back around to masturbation. But Showtime has mysteriously pulled an episode of Vice.

Jerked. Pull it off. Yeah. Pull it back around. Yeah. Oh, actually, I have one. He was a he was a jag officer jag perfect that was seamless we got it okay before it was yanked uh the description of

this episode on uh showtime's website hinted at potentially explosive material about ron desantis before his yanked and explosive material involved an investigation into allegations from former guantanamo bay detainees that desantis witnessed acts condemned by the united nations as torture right and there were three inmate deaths at guantanamo and DeSantis was part of the investigation. And these inmates, like his finding, the official finding was that the three prisoners had killed themselves. And that does not seem to jive with the actual facts of the case. Or what other detainees were saying. What was actually happening.

factual facts of the case, which they had or what other detainees were saying, what was actually happening. Other detainees testimony. And they had like fabric shoved down their throats, deep down their throats, like, and hung themselves.

So Showtime doing the, the GOP is work right now. Just trying to, or probably they're like, man, he's fucking wild enough to go after fucking Disney. And he's like, and we don't have that kind of money. Like Showtime will be fucking gone. But don't know that is something very peculiar but also not surprising given how we see like mainstream media be like yeah yeah we don't

it's just not rock the boat too hard right now that's crazy yeah i mean i've been behind the scenes like one of my first jobs was like working phones at one of the major networks, like news desks, and saw a story get completely defanged by a current prominent politician. Wasn't a politician then, was more of a reality show host guy. Donald Trump? then was more of a reality show host guy donald trump huh no i'm not saying that uh but i mean ronald trunk yeah ronald trunk and he just called and had his lawyers call and like had lawyers who sounded suspiciously like him call just non-stop and eventually the news organization's legal department was like i don't fucking know man let's just not do this it's it's gonna be so annoying what was the story about work it's just like basically being like he's a bullshit billionaire he's like not as rich as

he claims and oh right yeah i guess he stamped a lot of that out yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly so anyways hopefully somebody maybe other journalists who don't have massive legal departments with big overhead like can take this as an indication that there's something there and it's worth looking into but i guess it's like i'm trying to think if it's revealed right people who like i don't know how this affects someone who would vote for him if the news came out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's one of those weird stories where, like, people, you hear the name and you're probably going to immediately be turned off or turned on or whatever the fuck. Yeah.

But, like, if you hear this, I don't think, like, if you're an uninformed voter, like your head's in the Gitmo like game so much. You're like, wait, what? Yeah, he did. Yeah, that's so true. We really are in the era of like people. The there's sort of an impenetrability of candidates and like people are not easily dissuaded and like attack ads don't work on even like swing voters, really. So it's like interesting that like yeah we're still framing things that way but you're totally right like there's

not a single person who's who would change their stance based on that i think it's just like a personal humiliation for desantis that he doesn't want to because i'm sure he probably knows how to like he's maybe he's probably avoided reckoning with it so that's why he wants to avoid it because the one time he was asked about it when he was like in israel he fucking lost it lost his mind yeah i do think his whole thing because i don't think there are that many voters for him like i obviously they're in florida for you know his current position but i think his whole momentum is like mainstream media personalities thinking he's an alternative to Trump. And in that respect, it could be damaging because they're the sort of people who would give a shit about a story like this.

You know, obviously, like maybe as voters wouldn't because he's running to the right of Trump. right of trump but right in which case like i'm sorry and this is so cynical but you'd think that harming like muslim detainees in guantanamo bay would be like a fucking badge of honor for these monsters yeah where they're like yeah he did that exactly that's my president type of shit but i don't know that's where it's like so odd when we're like wait so what is the level of cruelty that's acceptable to you yeah and what's beyond? Yeah. I think his whole thing as of right now is just that the mainstream media takes him seriously as like, what if Trump went to Harvard? Harvard's a good school. That's five, six. Yeah.

But we're lift. So you couldn't tell. Hey, they're fucking cowboy boots. They're not lifts. I don't put anything in here to make them lifts. They're just really they're fucking cowboy boots they're not lifts i don't put anything in here to make them lifts they're just really high-heeled cowboy boots they naturally lift yeah exactly find a new angle find a new angle asshole uh luke such a pleasure having you on the show where can people where can people find you and follow you thank you guys for having me

uh yeah i'm at all the stuff at lukeis, M-O-N-E-S. And yeah, my album happening in my head on Spotify, iTunes and everywhere else. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, wow. You know, I. Those are lifts.

I mean, those. That's why I just pulled up a pair. Miles just pulled up a picture of his boots, and they look like Conquistador. Hey, they got to be a little bit high off, man. Yeah, he looks like a time traveler, like fell into 2023, and is like, I was Zorro's arch nemesis, but I'm going to put this suit on so no one finds me out. Dude, the media I have to recommend that I've been enjoying lately is the picture that Miles just pulled up of Ron DeSantis. Google Ron DeSantis cowboy boots. That's the media I have to

strongly recommend that has changed my life. They are so unnatural looking. It's crazy. That's absurd. They should have fish tanks in them. Oh, yeah, right. Could you imagine he goes to like a disco platform shoe next wow or like the robert de niro irishman shoe have you guys seen that oh yeah the insane oh he was in big lifts

dude his the lifts were like it looked like he was gonna fall over he walked like he was gonna fall over and well that's certainly true too yeah that one scene where he's supposed to like be a young menacing enforcer where he like walks down the street and oh yeah holy shit they are yeah they're just like shoes that somebody was like clone ad clone ad clone at like just the most uh soul that any shoe has ever had. My millennials will remember this. You remember rocket dog platform sandals? That some of the ladies out there and female, female identifying homies was wearing that back then. Those,

they look exactly like rocket dog platforms, but with like a leather fucking, I don't know, whatever wingtip upper. I'm looking now. Oh yeah. They, oh yeah. Remember those looking now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Remember those? Those are the best. Jack, you remember those? Without me saying them? Do you remember Rocket Dogs? No, I don't remember those at all. You've never seen this? Like a Rocket Dog?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was like standard footwear, I felt like, in the early aughts. A hundred percent. I've seen them more recently than that. They're coming back, baby. Crocs and Rocket Dogs. And you can eat a Rocket Dog. They sound like they should be like, you know, ice cream bars that you can

get from the ice cream. Oh, you like a Rocket Dog? Crocs and Rocket Dogs. I think I had one of those at a Dodgers game yesterday. Yeah, right? Miles, where can people find you? What is the work media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. If you like basketball talk, check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast,

Miles and Jack got mad boosties as we discussed the NBA finals. If you want to hear me talk shit about reality TV, then check out 420 Day Fiance with Sophia, Alexandra, and I. Now, let's see a thing. I'm just going to keep saying it because people keep have been tweeting. Like what's that reality show? My husband talking about siren on Netflix, the Korean reality competition show,

which is like next level capture the flag. I'm just going to say, if you like capture the flag, it's, it's just, it's just so it's like, it's such a nuts reality show that i'm just gonna say if you have time check that out that sounds great yeah i loved capture the flag when i was a kid

oh yeah it's it's like i felt like that was like the purest like form of of competition like in school when it's like we're gonna split the class in half yeah and you guys run at each other and take the fucking flag the best a couple tweets i've been enjoying small cat one small cat tweeted they don't id me at the liquor store anymore because they see the light has left my eyes i've had that thought i'm like what did wow what changed Wow. What changed? Yeah. Why no more IDing? I think it's like posture, too. Yeah. You know, like I remember when I was young buying alcohol, I'd be like, hey! Like, even when I was like 21.

I'm like, I was like that. There's a novelty to this. Yeah. And now I'm like, man, just fucking ring it up, dude. And Ben Rosen at Ben underscore Rosen tweeted the Grimace's birthday image. I guess it's berry flavored. New berry flavored Grimace milkshake.

Celebration starts 6-12. And Ben pointed out, a June 12th birthday suggests Grimace may have been conceived on September 11th. Which is just something that everybody should keep in mind as we're celebrating never forget uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at v daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy okay this is from a lebanese group called samir and abud

a b b o u d and i found it on this there's like these compilation albums that are really good it's called habibi funk and i've i've pulled tracks from these compilations before this one is called games and the vibe is like they're singing in english uh but they're like a they feel it feels like a lebanese steely dan or something because this song's from 1983 and it's got kind of like the same sort of like syncopated sort of like jazzy shit going on but with like super easy lyrics so this is games from the lebanese duo samir and abu check that out all right we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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