The Daily Zeitgeist - Turds Of A Feather, Expert Weed Tips 11.12.21

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

In episode 1029, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of the How To Do The Pot podcast Ellen Scanlon to discuss The pursuit of seasonal retail workers, Turds of a feather …, Wait, did people think having a beard meant you were more dominant and manly?, a MoviePass revival and more! The pursuit of seasonal retail workers Which Stores Are the Most Desperate to Hire Holiday Workers? Wow, a Lot of 2022 Republican Candidates Have Been Accused of Assaulting or Threatening to Murder Someone Wait, did people think having a beard meant you were more dominant and manly? MoviePass revival? After MoviePass Rumors, The Internet May Have Figured Out The Truth Of The Countdown MoviePass Is Coming Back, Let Chaos Reign Listen: Freefalling by Freaks and Geeks Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties

you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Mori Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 210, episode 5 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness uh it is friday november 12 2021 which of course miles means that it is, you didn't know? I mean, I did, but I do like to give you the honor.

Well, your ass better call somebody. It is National French Dip Day, National Pizza with the Works Except Anchovies Day, and National Chicken Soup for the Soul Day, my friend. Chicken Soup for the Soul. French Dip Day, though. I can get behind that. I wrote my English master's thesis on Chicken Soup for the soul. One of my favorite pieces of literature. For the teenage soul, right? Yeah, yeah.

I love deluxe pizzas, supreme pizzas, minus the anchovies. So love that. Is that? Love French dip. Where did that even come from? Is that like a, I learned that from Ninja Turtles. What? Was like, hold the anchovies.

That was like a trope on Ninja Turtles in the 80s that I remember. That's like where the idea of anchovies being on a pizza even occurred to me. Other than that, I've never been like, whoa, they put anchovies on this pizza? I think there was also, yeah, that was the thing in the 80s, I think, quite a bit. There was a rom-com about a young man who is a pizza delivery man. And this is going to sound like I'm talking about a young man who is a pizza delivery man and this is gonna sound like i'm talking about a porn but but he uh he would like go to women's homes and they when they ordered extra anchovies on their pizza oh like that was the signal yeah got it Boy? I think it was. Anyway. Yeah, Lover Boy. There it is.

Yeah, I just don't know why. Again, if y'all know where this came from, because I've yet to ever see anchovies offered as a topic at a pizza place. Unless it's like they had a whole list of, like, you know, you can desecrate your own pizza type business. But other than that, I've never been like, you're going to love our anchovy arugula pie like yeah anyways my name is jack o'brien aka it is i take short words and cut them off to make

shit sound cool like moment cough that's the fuck does that mean i yell it means moment and coffee that is courtesy of marky mark aurelius and And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Of course, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. the North Hollywood Swisher Sweet All-Star, recently switching to Backwoods because he likes the flexibility in his blunt rolling. Thank you so much for having me. I didn't have a song, a i just felt you know just to let people know the ones are you really are you really switching up your blunt construction if i'm gonna be 100 office our office honest if i'm 100 office michael scott i would say that i

actually switched more to hemp wraps because i'm not really smoking that much tobacco but occasionally you know i like to do it in the old ways and the new ways. But for the most part, trying to trying to phase the tobacco out of my way is of the ancients. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of How to Do the Pot, a podcast demystifying cannabis for women. And she's the co-founder of the Platform for Legal Weed Education of Like Minds. Please welcome Ellen Scanlon!

Ellen! Hi! So happy to be here today. Welcome, welcome. It's great to have you. Where are you coming to us from? Where are you at in the earth? San Francisco. Okay. Are you a Bay Area native? I'm not. I have lived here for going on 13 years, though, and I ran into someone at Outside Lands who

told me that 12 years makes you a native, but I'm from the East Coast. I grew up in Virginia, Connecticut, and Maryland, mostly. All the East Coast places. And a lot of time in New York City, too, but more as an adult. Yeah. How was, so you went to Outside Lands this year? I did. Well, Outside Lands is like my favorite festival of all time.

Like, I don't think anything else comes close, just vibe wise. And I just love Golden Gate Park. But what was, I haven't been in, damn, like five years. So I'm curious, what's, has it maintained its outside lens-ness throughout everything? It was awesome. It was awesome. It was so much fun. It was, I was there on Sunday. It was a beautiful day. I've never gone to a festival by myself and I wasn't sure I was going to be able to go. My husband and I were trying to go Friday, but we couldn't make it happen. And a friend of mine actually gifted me her ticket because she couldn't, she had a three

day pass and couldn't go. So I got to go Sunday by myself, which was actually amazing. I just wandered around and looked at all the people and listened to music. And I love the festival so much also. You're in this amazing park. And I just would walk from stage to stage and that was it was like hiking and listening to music and there's grasslands there yeah and so that was really fun to check out and beer lands and all kinds of great food it was really fun that's like the thing i love is that like you go there and there is like all of the bay area culture is like hey we get there's some millionaires up here who want to drink really good wine and have oysters and shit. So there's wine lands and stuff for that.

And it's funny because the last time I went was the year like before they started doing grasslands, which, Jack, I think you're going to ask was grasslands is where you smoke grass. Ah, yeah, I got it. What's what's it like in there? Is it just like a lounge of people? Is it like a bunch of like vendors and, you know, cultivators kind of peddling their wares? It's a big space and you have to be 21 in order to get in. And then there are some vendors and a bunch of consumption lounges that are all outside and have cool couches and cool vibes. And they've got a lot of stuff where you can take

good Instagram pictures. And then they built this big, basically just a place to have a huge mural. And so anyone who came into Grasslands could come in and grab a paintbrush and add to the mural. And it felt great. It was really fun. I don't smoke weed, but I am an Instagram influencer. So I'm a little torn, but i think i'll be there that sounds awesome that sounds just do the thing you always do you take the unlit joint and then in photoshop you add the smoke right exactly all right ellen we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we're going to talk about the seasonal

retail workers we're we're coming up on uh tis the season for just absurd consumerism we are about to hit just unprecedented consumption uh projected to be 46 more than normal when it comes to apparel. And we're also having a worker shortage. So, you know, I see what they do with that. Yeah. Well, we'll talk about what they're planning on doing. We will talk about Trump seems to have a type like with regards to the people that he endorses, namely people who are abusers of women. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. We will talk about, there's shocking news coming out that wearing a beard does not make you more dominant and manly,

which I'm having a hard time believing that. And then of course, as is our want, as is our MO, we always like to check in anytime there's a movie pass news, piece of movie pass news. How is there movie pass news again? Why? How is there not? How is that not the only thing we're thinking about? All that, plenty more. But

first, Ellen, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? What is something from your search history? So I just moved into a new house and I cannot find any of my napkins. And I have a big collection of cloth napkins and I'm hosting Thanksgiving. Wow. In-laws are coming in from the East Coast. We've got some friends coming. So I have been doing a lot of searching for linen cocktail napkins.

Hey, where'd I put my cloth napkins, Google? All right, how's that going? Are you happy with the selection? Are you happy with what? I'm having trouble letting go of the fact that I can't find these napkins. I don't really want to buy any new ones because I know I'm going to find them like the day after Thanksgiving.

So I'm stalling a little, but your retail news of 46 times the demand is making me think I should probably just buy some and I'll use them at another holiday. Yeah, there you go. How many people are you having for Thanksgiving? So we were thinking of inviting a few more this morning. So it's going to be between seven and nine, I think. Okay. Okay. Which, yeah, it's, I grew up having a huge Thanksgiving. My mom would host, my dad has a big family. And so it would be like 40, 45 people. So I'm used to it being really big. So this feels manageable, although I've never actually done it. So in my head, I'm thinking like, oh, eight people,

no big deal. But I also have a three-year-old who throws a wrench into most of my well-laid plans. So we'll have to see how it goes. Yeah. I have a three-year-old that literally throws a wrench into many of my well-laid plans. At anything. At my head, right? Just about anything. in your voice you're like i don't know if i can buy any more it sounds like someone who has a healthy napkin supply and you're like i can't add more like it would be foolish of me to augment this by any even one more sheet is that am i am i feeling so i love napkins i mean i am the person that walks into a shop and i just am certain that i need another eight. So I had a good collection and I just can't find them. And it is so weird. I've unpacked every box, I think. And it would, I mean,

it wouldn't fill a whole box, but it would definitely be, you know, it feels like it should be found. And I really don't like to buy things that I don't need or don't use. And so I used all these napkins. So yeah, it's, it's been a little emotional. You did hear that in my voice. I know I could see. And I, as I know, I get like the frustration of like when you have a lot of something and you're like, I know I have this somewhere and you've moved. And then it ends up being like in a drawer of like a piece of furniture. Like you threw in at the last second because you're in such a hurry moving out. You're like, why the fuck did I put it in here?

But here they are. I'm definitely going to find them. I'm starting to wonder if you've got such a lit napkin collection that they got taken, that they were like, OK, the one thing that we have to like have fall off this moving train. Yeah. Train this moving train. Moving train, right? That's how they move stuff now? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was going to offer a hack that we use around these parts where you just put old washcloths out, but it sounds like you're a little bit beyond that. I really like napkins. You're going to stay at a courtyard by Marriott. You're going to take all the washcloths when you check in and you're going to call the front desk immediately and say, there are no washcloths in here. I don't know how you overlook this. I demand six more just so we can not have this problem again. You run that game about five times and you're set for napkins. A huge Thanksgiving.

What's your main going to be? Is it going to be a turkey it going to be turkey, ham? What are we talking? Turkey. So there's this food delivery service in the Bay Area called Good Eggs. And I am like their number one customer. And I've already pre-ordered my Thanksgiving. And they have amazing local vendors that are part of the food.

And then I'm actually a pretty bad cook. Luckily, my husband is a good cook. So I do the sourcing and then he's going to do most of the cooking. But we get it all the time and their recipes are easy. So, yeah. So it's going to be Thanksgiving like straight down the middle. All the standards. Straight down the middle.

Just a fastball straight down the middle. Cool. What is something that you think is overrated? So something I think is overrated is 420 as a weed holiday. OK, we've had this before and it is one of the more convincing cases we've heard. So hit me. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry to hear that you've already had it before. I wanted to be an original, but maybe my perspective will be unique. Yeah, I'm sure it will be. So I was doing some research and in 2020, the two of the top weed sales days are actually the day before Thanksgiving and the day after Thanksgiving. So Green Wednesday is what we call the day before

Thanksgiving. The biggest sales days are New Year's Eve, these two Thanksgiving holidays, the Wednesday before Christmas, and then the Friday before Halloween. So I feel like cannabis holidays are becoming regular holidays. And it's about being with your friends and having a great time

and maybe feeling better around your families. Getting your grandparents high. Dissociating around your problematic uncle with a ton of edibles. And just feeling really chill about it all. I was able to get through the whole Q lecture without batting an eye. Just laughing your ass off. Yeah, like, wow, go on about that. And also in the past few years, some cannabis brands have started to kind of take back 420 as a day to talk about social justice and the 40,000 people that are still in prison for cannabis crimes. But I don't really think that's the mainstream narrative for it. I still think when people hear 420, they think like kind of bro-y, not accessible.

And so, yeah, I think it's overrated. And I think that there are other ways that cannabis can be celebrated. And let's work on those. I got to say, you fucking nailed it. The last 420 overrated was really good, but you nailed it. That was good good but you uh you nailed it that was good thank you it kind of hinged on them wanting to make 69 a more significant number than 420 so yeah yours was a little bit more June 9th baby but I think yeah the last time we were talking about is like for me as like an older millennial it was because because of the prohibition on cannabis and stuff.

It felt like, all right, man, we're the kids of divorced parents who are going to get so fucking high after school on this day. And then that habit kind of carried on into adulthood. And then as things progressed and like even I started working in like medical marijuana and things just felt a little more normal. It definitely the significance has passed. But it's funny when you say that, because I definitely have those same things. I'm like, well, I'm not going to get caught without weed on a long weekend, like or before Halloween or the fucking the day of all days.

Are you going to have constant leftover food to contend with? I mean, this all tracks, but it's not something I've ever really thought about. I like Green Wednesday now. Yeah, that's some good marijuana metrics that you've got there, which makes sense. Do you plan on having marijuana offerings at your Thanksgiving? And do you feel pressured as somebody who's like a a thinker in the world of of marijuana oh wow well thank you for that um i i like to have weed when i'm around people i mean i feel like they not that they expect it but i love to share it we're I have a lot. So I love to share it. Definitely no one is required. And my in-laws, I would be very surprised if they would be interested in partaking. But yeah, we'll have it around. more because of eating an edible and then getting extra hungry and then having like a second helping my a friend of mine does that at the beach town where i grew up going right loves the food so much that he'll just have an edible later in the afternoon so he can have a second you know like

and then does that because when i like overeat i feel like shit afterwards but like i feel like when i would overeat after smoking like i wouldn't actually feel as bad is that like does it help i guess because it helps with stomach right with like yeah i mean cbd especially if there's any cbd in your weed it tends to like bring down inflammation and so that could help if you have a stomach ache. Yeah. No one's ever really pointed that out before where often you don't feel bad after you maybe eat a ton of extra food. Right. A gallon of ice cream. You don't have to look into that. Yeah. I will be interested to see as, you know, we progress and evolve as a society that

has legal weed. Like if, you know, what are the traditions? You know, there are traditional like alcoholic beverages for each holiday. Like what will the traditions be that arise around like our existing holidays? Oh, yeah. Like Green Wednesday, you can roll like a fat blunt in like a tobacco leaf, like a Fanta leaf and make it look like a turkey leg. Yeah, I mean. You know what I mean?

Yeah, absolutely. Pumpkin, you know what I mean? Like jack-o'-lantern type devices. I'm, you know, I'm going to start thinking about this. Yeah, got work on it. Yeah. You see me smoking a fat turkey leg. Like I have a two by four underneath it or else it can't sustain its own weight. The structural integrity has been compromised.

Like a tomato plant. You have scaffolding. And I'm just coughing like, this doesn't seem practical. I'm like, please, gotta hit it. Crazy. You don't seem practical. What is something you think is underrated? So I don't know if you all have heard of this show, but it's

called Night on Earth. It's a series on Netflix. It's so good. It's so good. First of all, it transfixes my three-year-old, which is amazing. And basically it goes to all these amazing places all over the world on a full moon and they have these crazy cameras. And so it looks like it's daylight, but it's the middle of the night and they follow these crazy cameras. And so it looks like it's daylight, but it's the middle of the night and they follow these animals around and you're going to these gorgeous places. And literally my son is obsessed. And so we watched them over and over. And so I just, I can't recommend it to people enough. The narrator is this woman whose voice is so insanely calming and relaxing. And the best part for me, because I have watched my share of nature shows in my life, this is sort of a spoiler, but like the animals

don't die. There's a lot of tension and like there are 40,000 Caribbean flamingos. And then suddenly, you know, a crocodile comes through and you're getting really nervous. And I can feel myself getting nervous now. And then they all party together. Everything works out. So it's amazing. I love it. Wow.

And the soundtrack by Tom Waits, too? Oh, is it really? Directed by Jim Jarmusch? No, that's the Jim Jarmusch film, Night on Earth. It's so good. I wouldn't be surprised if there are like brilliant minds behind it. Hey, we got the flamingos. We're like, oh, her.

I have extolled the virtues of nature documentaries as like entertainment or like something to have on the TV kind of ambiently if your kids are just, you know, need something on the TV but you don't want them to be poisoned by fucking paw

patrol or whatever yeah nature documentaries are great but they also especially as a new parent because it's always the baby animals that get picked off like it's right that's why this show is so great yeah yeah which is wild because i'm thinking about like you know i like everyone's conscious like i don't want my kid watching this other stuff cut to our childhoods where it's like, I don't know, man, this whatever's on is your parent for the moment. Just deal with that. And I think about like I one of my earliest memories of TV that was too much for me was actually watching Bambi. Yeah. When the mom gets murked and I was like, I was destroyed.

Yeah. I couldn't handle. Meanwhile, I remember my grandparents like you need to watch roots when i was like four yeah and like that was somehow i was processing that better than watching bambi it so all that to say is the it's it's interesting the things you remember as a kid where maybe as an adult you're like that's too much for them it's like i'm just literally unable to process this bambi though where the mom goes bye bye yeah so the one the one problem that uh disney really wanted kids to be prepared for is uh is their parents dying like violently or just not being dead like as as we open they're just like look kid your parents are dead okay they're not but we wanted to prepare

you for that right sorry well i was i was reminded of something because the both of your parents you know as the way ellen you were like just a tip you know this is great for the kids i i notice all the time between parents like exchanging these like sort of parental hacks of like you'll have you tried this have you tried this have you tried this and then even on like the internet the other day i saw like a tip was like hey just a tip for you parents this holiday season we know you're gonna have to walk your kids near toy stores and they're gonna be like can i go in there and rather than going in there and saying no to them and then triggering a meltdown is they were like pro tip what i do have my kids pose with

the shit they want and i say well yeah let's go in there because i have to send that to santa and then that's how i can neutralize the threat of going in the toy store without buying nothing and then still feel like shit's progressing for the child and i was like oh that's interesting but then all the comments like thank you so so much. This shit is genius. It's just interesting. Like these new just again, like as we're discovering phones and kids are more aware of phones, it's more than like my parents me. Like, if you ask me one more time, you will have nothing. Versus like, yeah, why don't you pose for that? And I'm like, oh, yeah.

Yeah. Stupid ass idiot. Getting that. And then you just print out the picture that you took and be like there you go you'll always have that memory buddy look at that yeah the use of the camera to like we have an issue where when my kids will build something the other one will want to break it and you know like with legos or magnet tiles and just the way we got past that is every time they build it, they're like,

Hey, take a picture. I take a picture and then they're good. Cause like, there's like a record of it. Right. They never look at it again, but it's just like,

yeah, it's a feeling that like this has been stored in the, uh, library of Congress on my dad's phone. Less transient. Yeah. Yeah. Parent dad hacks hey that's there's a podcast cut this justin because we're gonna make make billions yeah ways to manipulate someone with a lower intellect than you is ultimately what it sounds like we're gaming

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It's where I learned to hate consumer culture. And also it's where I realized that the Coach monogram handbags were like Louis Vuitton for Karen's. Shout out to the coach store in Sherman Oaks. But this year now apparel is projected to be like the hugest, biggest increase. So to 46% more business than normal. So if you have apparel, then hold on to your fucking butts. apparel then hold on to your fucking butts and now retail operators are kind of in this situation like okay labor shortage because we're not paying living wages okay we hear that but also consumers want service so what are we to do and they'll just pay a living wage right wouldn't that be wouldn't it be nice but no't it be nice? But no, they're more like, how about some bonuses? Oh,

bonuses. Look, each company there, they're all doing something different to lure in potential workers. Amazon, for example, they are offering seasonal rates of around $18 and like even an additional three bucks for certain shifts and like assigning bonuses up to

$3,000. I mean, Oh wow. That's something a target is hiring less seasonal workers than normal. So because they want to incentivize their existing staff to work more. Hell yeah. And they're saying that's working because they have like, you know, there's, they're saying like, we have a, uh, an education fund that will help people go through college and like these other sort of sort of supplemental programs to help employees it's working because target is really a family and who better do you want to spend time with around the holidays than your family yeah so you can sleep here now asshole then macy's they're giving existing employees like a 500 bounty for like any new blood they bring in they're like hey you convinced your friend all right here's i mean that's the bounty

on that like recommendation bonuses are like kind of a they're they're a thing they're pretty normal the fact that's normal 500 guys we guess Big lots, they're extending their holiday hours, and they're making up for it by giving employees a $50 gift card. Oof. So all this to say, it seems like, you know, companies have done the math, and this seems to be like the Black Friday version of their labor costs, where Black Friday's like, I know it looks like it's a deal. He's like, but look, this is still, it looks like more to you, but trust me, we're still making a profit off this. And it feels like just with these sort of

increases in wages and stuff, they've done the math. They're like, we can do this. It appears we're moving closer to this thing while still making the money that we need to without going too far, you know, too far afield. And you know, it's, it's just sort of like, it goes back to this idea of people we've sort of, sort of set $15 to be this benchmark for a living wage. When really, when you look at a lot of the analysis, like that's not enough at all. And when you add kids to the mix, like really you think a living wage needs to be closer to like, if you're living in somewhere, like for example california you would need to be making roughly what is it here 1957 1857 i mean sorry just like in like higher states like we'll just we'll like or districts like dc or new york you'd need to be making 25 an hour per like in a in a four person household with two parents working and two

children that's what would be necessary if you're uh if maybe if you are a childless person then $15 you can make work in certain places but still i feel like the conversation hopefully doesn't stall out here like well look at all they're doing more than like yeah it's still not enough yeah temporary right this chart from the famous socialist outlet cnbc has like the difference between current minimum wage and what is like considered a living wage and it's all like way the fuck off like even you know for single people it's almost exclusively at least like three dollars difference up to you know there there's some that are ten dollars differences and then for families it's just it's absurdly off like it's not even close to where it needs to be

and yeah you you would think that i don't, that would be a thing that politicians would be like, look at this, we could make people's lives better and they might vote for us. They had a chance though, didn't they? And just a couple of people were like, now, think of the C-suites. And there it went. So yeah, a bit disappointing. But yeah it's it's it's interesting

to just watch how these companies are like here's anything but a living wage so much of the country's minimum wage is still 725 jesus yeah because it's like at the federal bottom you know wow great a lot of people are starting to work in weed or getting interested in working in cannabis so maybe check that out yeah like in terms of like helping with cultivation i mean it's legal for adult use in 19 states and for medical in 36 states and like the numbers i was telling you last year and the two days around thanksgiving like $175 million worth of weed was sold. And there had to be bud tenders and cultivators and all kinds of things. So it's a really fast-growing employer as an industry in the country.

Yeah. It's funny because some people in my family who pre-prohibition had developed skills that many in our family like man they're never gonna get a job and now they're like i have fucking insurance so i can blow out a whole warehouse watch this shit and i'm like good for you we gave up on your ass and now you got the best job in the family so it is true like's, it's interesting to watch that pendulum swing back and forth, but yeah, that good point. I look into it because I mean, it's, there's especially like in, I feel like in LA, there will always be a poll of people to go up to, you know, up North when it's time for some

trims and suddenly they're like, yeah, man, I just go up there. I can knock out, you know, I'll work for like three weeks straight and I'm good for a while, you know, living minimally. But still, the opportunities abound. All right. Let's check in with like the Trump, you know, line. Who is he endorsing these days? What what are they all about? It seems like we're starting to see a trend here.

Yeah. I mean, he's his hold on the GOP is pretty clear. see a trend here. Yeah. I mean, he's his hold on the GOP is pretty clear. And he butts heads with Republicans that are like only like 93 percent racist. So there's definitely like a type that he prefers. And it seems like especially for the people that he's endorsing, when you look at some of the people he's endorsed recently, they all have a very similar pattern of allegations of abuse. You know, like Herschel Walker, who's running for Senate in Georgia, has been accused by his ex-wife and a former girlfriend of like, you know, threatening their lives or like pulling a gun on them. Max Miller is a former Trump aide who was briefly dating Stephanie Grisham, who was the press secretary during their time at

the White House. And she had accused him of you know physical abuse and had also been arrested like for like fighting at hookah bars and all kinds just like just general you know like he likes to punch people in public it's like brown shirt shit like yeah then there's this guy sean parnell this this guy most recently sean parnell who's running in in pennsylvania got trump's blessing for many people. Yeah. And many people like what's going on here? Again, accusations of abuse from people in his past, physical, violent stuff. And then he made his worldview like really clear on a fox.

And like so then after this stuff came out, people were like, I'm not sure if you saw him when he was on Fox and Friends and started going off about like tyrant women. And just to give you an idea, again, not to belabor the point, but this is a soundbite of him. Sort of this is sort of his general vibe as a man and how he sees the world. I feel like the whole happy wife, happy life nonsense has done nothing but raise one generation of woman tyrants after the next. Maybe it's just now there's an entire generation of men that don't want to put up with the BS of a high maintenance narcissistic woman. I also think that modern day feminism has driven a wedge between men and women.

The idea that a woman doesn't need a man to be successful, the idea that a woman can live a happy and fulfilling life without a man, I think it's all nonsense. I've already had one failed marriage, and I've been there. I've done that. But I look at women on Instagram when I stumble across their pages, and the number one thing that turns me off the most is all the duck-billed selfies. Yeah. The narcissistic duck-billed selfies. From an evolutionary standpoint, it used to be women were attracted to your strength because you could defend them from dinosaurs.

Yeah. I feel like the whole happy world— there it is dinosaur dad he's running for senate he's running for fucking senate but i i when you look at sort of what the platform is with trump at the helm it really is like this pedal to the metal like fuck progress shit like we want a guy who's literally evoking prehistoric man like as part of his pursuit of a better america and i mean this is the thing like we've seen trump can you know it's pretty similar he surrounds his people of a similar disposition or shitty character so now when you see that this almost seems like a litmus test to get an endorsement from him you can only imagine

where the rhetoric and the policies are headed when this is the stuff that he's like we have to get behind this we have to get behind the guy who says women who take selfies are like narcissistic monsters and i've already had one failed marriage right just throw that in there as an aside i mean we do seem to see this a lot that a comorbidity between like violent misogyny and a lot of problems in america whether it be like mass shootings, just murder, or this fucking white supremacist movement. And it makes sense because being afraid, feeling threatened as in your manhood, I feel like undergirds a lot of the character profiles

of the people who are causing a lot of the problems in this country. Right. Because conservatism now just means go backwards. Right. There's nothing there's this point. They've completely stopped contributing any kind of idea that someone would be like, yeah, did you hear that thing Mitt Romney said?

If that were a policy that would make our lives easier. It's just been like, man, taxes are too much for us millionaires. And we're regular people, huh, folks? And it's everything else is just about chipping away at fucking any semblance of progress, whether that's for like bodily autonomy or reproductive rights or LGBTQ civil rights, anything like that. It's like, no, no, no, we got to fucking take everything back, back, back, back, back. And I'm not sure how many people realize that's truly what the deal is here. And I know many people feel like we got to get back to like simpler times in America

was this or that. And we didn't have any idea of things like runaway misogyny or racism right but this is sort of you know i think this man truly would be like fuck shit was easier when women picked you based on if a dinosaur was gonna eat her right because we were walking the earth at the same time as dinosaurs if you remember because i'm a christian right that's uh facts facts i mean what do you think he sounds like a guy who took one he like heard about evolutionary biology from his freshman year college roommate and then decided to just shoot off at the mouth constantly about it i don't know if you know, like, that's how, like, women pick men. Right. Because of caveman times. So.

What a fresh take on social media, taking down the old duck face. Selfie. Right. Whatever. And it's kind of odd when you see, like, where you'll see Republicans get progressive, because it always strikes me when you see, like, how Republican members of congress are now like man we got to figure out legal banking for legal cannabis and you're like what where did you where'd you hear that you're like i got donors who are pretty in so i gotta like represent it's like wow so you

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I shaved it down. I mean, you've had the mustache. I felt threatened. I realized, yeah, I always have a stubble mustache. I just can't get it to a full adult mustache hood. Yeah, mine is very shadowy at the moment. Yeah, yours? Oh, man.

Look at that shit. It's strong, Jack. It looks like a young person trying to grow a mustache for the first time. Right, like you're about to buy your first pack of cigarettes. One cigarettes, please. One cigarettes. But people are looking into the psychology and I guess physiology of beard growth. Yeah.

You know, beards, beards were pretty big there for a while. I have been noticing as I am proudly and not at all being forced to grow a mustache this Movember, I am noticing, like I'm paying more attention to other facial hair. It seems like the clean shaven look is in vogue these days. I think it's a pendulum. Ellen, what's your take on beards are you because i felt like at a time everyone was like beer it was like the fucking beard era everyone's like oh look at that beard look at the instagrams of like buns and beards look at this man with a man bun

and a beard yeah how how did you did that poison your brain at all? Well, my husband has had a beard at different times and not had a beard. And so he's the one who I pay the most attention to. And we did have a few conversations where I said, I'm cool with the beard, but I need it to look nice. So I need it. I need you to get it trimmed. I need like, do you want me to, I'm this, like I said, I'm sort of the sorcerer in the family. I was like, do you want me to get you a product? And he wasn't that excited about a product, but he did go and find a place and get beard trimming. But during COVID, I feel like a lot of people grew beards just the way everyone grew all of their things. Hair and beards and everything.

And so maybe the pendulum shift is people had them throughout COVID and now it's just, I need to do something that feels not like COVID and remembering being at home all the time. Right. Cause like, I feel like facial hair and like not getting haircuts was sort of like the dust settling in the offices we weren't going into anymore, but like manifesting like on our bodies or like, it's just piling up because nothing matters and no one's here to see it. And now maybe I think,

yeah, people like, fuck man, this is, we're a little less in survival mode to a certain extent, but I didn't realize that the take of, or the perception of beards was that like, it's more, I mean, I guess on a very basic level is that it means you're way more masculine and you're way more dominant because you got a beard and your beard the fact that you can grow such a beard are indicators of such virility well it turns out it might not be according to a study in the archives of sexual behavior jack they really wanted to get in they said look we were examining quote whether beards are honest signals of biological in terms of

testosterone levels and psychological self-reported dominance traits so they got a group of like young healthy men based on you know what the metrics they were using and they measured their beards like regularly using digital calipers. Like they were being like, let's really get in here. Let's try and be as scientific as possible. And then they also would provide saliva samples like before and after working out just to see like how their like testosterone and cortisol levels were. And they also like had to report their dominance on this five item scale well they looked into all

this and they have found that beard length was not related to testosterone levels or dominance thus no evidence was found to support the hypothesis that beards are honest signals of the beard owners testosterone levels and dominance thank Thank you. I rest my case. I have no beard. My testosterone is through the chart. That's why I'm bald. Who was bro? But was this a bro Bible like study? Like what? I'm so confused as to like where this misconception. I think it's maybe just that's exactly.

I was surprised, but I think maybe that's just I think generally. Right. It's just the visuals of like masculinity. Right. Or being like a lumberjack. Right. Visually is like, look at this big fucker with the flannel on.

He's got to have testosterone shooting at his face. Yeah. But I think maybe that's where it came from. But I, or like we just all miss our dads from the 80s when they may or may not have had a beard at some point. Yeah. I mean, I just think it our dads from the 80s when they may or may not have had a beard at some point. I mean, I just think it's, like, so fashion-based, zeitgeist-based, and also, like, just dependent on, like, how you feel about the strength of your chin.

Like, I feel like a lot of people grow beards to, you know, give themselves a little bit of a chin. And that's fine, And that's great. But like to assume that it's based on like, God, I can't help but grow this fucking beard. It's just bursting out of my face because I'm so damn dominant. It's like, what? And it's not that much fun to kiss someone with a beard. No. So I've never thought of it as a manly, And it's not that much fun to kiss someone with a beard. No. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

So I've never thought of it as a manly... I guess I've never really thought about it that way, but... Right. Right. The kissing someone with a beard is... I... Clean shaven's kind of nicer. I think it reveals sort of the perception of the beard grower.

Like, to your point, you're like, I don't really... And not to say that you're speaking for every person but that like you're like i didn't really think about it whereas someone who's growing the beers like fuck yeah man i'm gonna look like a fucking like a like a spec ops fucking navy seal in afghanistan with this fucking beard i feel like zero dark zero dark 30 like started a big part of the beard trend right well consider now right like on the far right a beard is almost standard battle dress for these people for proud boys and those groipers and that whole fucking group of people like where you're like of course y'all are have to do everything as outwardly masculine as possible because you're not because you believe in your own masculinity

and dominance i'm sure that beard is not compensation i mean listen that guy was just talking like in the last that guy is masculine as fuck and has no problems being insecure about his masculinity right and so there's like there's something i think to that end it maybe it is in the eye of the beard holder what they believe themselves or maybe that's what i'll do to tell myself it's okay that i couldn't grow a beard i'll be honest i think when growing up though like in puberty i was telling my other friends fucking growing wild ass facial hair i'm like what the fuck why is it just coming out in circles on my cheeks i can't when will i get there is something

a matter with me and then i think that's just because I've mainlined too much American pop culture where I think we're, again, fed a steady diet of beards over our lifetimes. love to do on this podcast because there was a brief moment where it seemed like we would have access to movie theaters the same way we have access to netflix just as a subscription a service that we're able to just have in our life have there whenever we needed it and then it it went away and now we we've covered like five different times when it's like, movie pass is back! We're like, how? Movie pass revival question mark? Like we should just have that on deck

for like a headline or like a title of our show. But okay, so Stacy Spike, one of the co-founders of Movie Pass, has announced that he has bought the remnants of the company in hopes of restoring it to its wildly unsustainable glory of 2017 yeah baby i it i'm still so confused about this because as we all knew on paper we're like how do you can make it work for 10 bucks a month how does that work because a ticket is okay whatever but yeah as stacy spikes said he came out and said i can confirm that we acquired movie pass out of bankruptcy on wednesday we are thrilled to have it back and we are exploring the possibility of relaunching soon. Our pursuit to reclaim the brand was encouraged by the continued interest from the movie going community.

We believe if done properly, theatrical subscription can play an instrumental role in lifting movie going attendance to new heights. And here's the thing. He started this in 2011 or co-founded it with this other dude in 2011. And they got bought in 2017 by Helios something, whatever the company that completely bankrupted them. That's when like we sort of I think in the mainstream, we're like, wait, movie pass what? Because that's when they launched out the $10 a month, all you can watch sort of plan. And within two days, they went from 20,000 to 100,000 subscription subscriptions. And then in less than a year, they had over 3 million subscribers.

And I think that's when they were like, wait, so he preceded that explosion or. Yeah, they were trying to they were struggling to get it off the ground and since 2011 they're like i mean we like the idea they're big movie fans and they figured that this is something that could work but then these two big dicks came in being like no no no you got it all wrong like i know the people over there we'll do something wildly unsustainable and it'll look cool right for a second maybe we can sell the thing before they realize they're on to the fact that this is a sham but the the funny part was the two guys who took over the company, like Spikes was still sort of involved. And then in 2018, he was fired because he raised concerns internally about the sustainability of the $10 price point.

Get out of here, you fucking hater. So he watched it all fall apart i don't know i'm still unclear on how it's going to be sustainable in any way like aren't the prices gonna have to go up won't it be like it can't be unlimited anymore and at the same time i feel like places like amc have caught on and they're like no this is actually this is a good way to kind of keep a constant flow of money coming in and sometimes they might not go see movies but i'm just yeah i don't know how do we bring how do they bring it back if they bring it back it's it seems like his plan is to bring it back at a higher

price point right like his right his whole issue like was like, the $10 thing is a great kind of limited time offer. We hit our goal. All right, turn it off. That was the goal. And they were like, what if this was the price, though? And he was like, well, then we'd go out of business really fast. And they were like, you're fired. Get out of here.

Get out of here. really fast and they were like you're fired get out of here get out of here so it just it's just a question of how much the kind of offering is contingent on like i think i would only do it if it was like 10 ish dollars or like the price of a movie ticket because then i could like get my mind around okay all i have to do is average a movie a month which I'm totally planning on doing and I would be you know saving money but if right. The last time I went to a movie I thought it was like 20 bucks

a ticket. Yeah yeah no it's absurd I'm just I'm I hope for the best but Jack what you're saying is like you'd pay for one movie a month. So that's 20 bucks. So that's already doubling.

Yeah, that's true. That's a really good point. That would make their business a little better. Yeah, I know. I feel like honestly, like, isn't there? When are we going to see? And I guess this is a question for you, Alan, because you have your ear to the streets. Cannabis wise.

When are movie theaters going to be a venue for consumption? You know, like, what do you think is getting in the way? Because like in L.A., you see these little places starting to pop up to like the Lowell Cafe and stuff where you can eat and smoke and pay ridiculous rental costs for like water pipes and shit. But is there like, where are we there? Because I'm always curious about that as things progress. Well, yeah, I love the idea because movies and weed go together so well. I mean, the first thing that comes to my mind is smoking issues.

And so probably have to be outside because I don't think you can smoke inside in a lot of places anyway. But I mean, look at all the people who built movie theaters in their backyard with a screen during COVID. It's not right. You could throw it on if you have any type of outdoor space. Right. That would be fun. Like Synespia was doing that in L.A. for the like Hollywood Forever screenings. Like you would see sort of like weed delivery companies sort of set up shop.

And then it's like, yeah, man, fucking let her rip. We're in a fucking cemetery and it's L.A. Yeah. Old pal did that. I remember hearing about that. Yeah. So outdoor things, I think probably. I mean, movie theaters with alcohol.

I think that the chain that was here just went out of business during COVID, whatever the like. Arclight, yeah. Yeah. And I don't like to drink during movies because it makes me tired and then I want to fall asleep. So weed and movies seems like a better mix. Yeah. I could also see like if it was indoors, it's just so smoky. You can't see the screen.

You're like, right, man, like this movie maybe would have been a little bit better if it wasn't a goddamn hot box. Maybe you need a subscription to a dispensary service and you just walk in and it's sort of like the fumes for five bucks a month. You just you don't even have to bring your own weed. It's just it. Oh, yeah. Or like do edibles. If you can't smoke, they're like're like here go in the edible pit for a little bit give yourself about 40 minutes and then the show will start you go in and maybe it starts

uh knocking on your door and now suddenly uh the new cruella films bearable who knows i wouldn't call it an edible pit because that makes me think of a ball pit that's just full of edibles that kids are playing in. Edible pen. Edible pen. That's better. A pen. Yeah. With confused people wondering if the cookies they're eating are edibles or not. Yeah. Ellen, can you talk a little bit about just your podcast and like sort of where you're seeing the industry move and kind of trends that you're surprised by or excited by as you kind of track the growth? Sure. Well, you're making me think of our episode, our Thanksgiving episode that's coming out soon. We have a new series called Weed Words where we just talk about all the words that everybody kind of thinks they should know about weed, but maybe don't. Our Halloween episode was

on paranoia. And so it's like the practical tips to not feeling paranoid with weed, but maybe don't. Our Halloween episode was on paranoia. And so it's like the practical tips to not feeling paranoid with weed, but also why as a culture, we're kind of paranoid about cannabis. And our Thanksgiving word is the munchies because everybody, and I'm going to dig into why you don't feel super, super full. Yeah. You're like, I ate $40 worth of Taco Bell and I'm, my happiness is through the roof. I feel physically great. Yeah. Well, what I did learn is that cannabis increases your, like it makes food smell and taste better. That's what the receptors are connecting with your body. So anytime food tastes and smells better, that sounds pretty awesome. So yeah, that's the word that we are going to be talking about in Thanksgiving.

And in general for our show, you know, we're trying to demystify cannabis for women. And what that means to me is just help them understand it. You know, the show is called How to Do the Pot because when I was talking to friends about what I was doing, I would kind of be like, oh, yeah, we're going to teach you how to do the pot. And everyone would laugh. And I thought that was a pretty good place to start because you can kind of, you know, and I also think that for people who intuitively call it pot, you kind of have some stigma and some fear and propaganda. So I'm sort of like speaking to those people a little bit and just being like, it's weed, have fun. But also you need to know how to do it because there's so much to learn about cannabis.

I mean, the employment stuff is super fascinating. The social justice side of it is incredibly important and interesting. But also if you just don't know to wait an hour when you've eaten an edible before trying another one, like that's also super critical. So we try and cover all of it. And we actually have a show, a series that comes out weekly. That's called the first time I bought legal weed and women from all across the country send us their voice memo and tell us the story of the first time that they bought weed. And it started because I was just

talking to a lot of women who were curious and wanted to try it, but really just couldn't get themselves there. And so I thought by building this like tribe of friends, basically, who are telling you, and it's not that all the stories are great. I mean, my first time in San Francisco, I went to a dispensary that had bulletproof glass and did not feel good. And then I also went to one that seemed like a restaurant. And I want everyone to know that there's a range and so yeah we're really just trying to make you feel like you have a friend in weed who you can ask the questions that you have in a in a discreet way so you don't have to tell everyone that you're super curious but you can learn what you need to know and your theme song is the toy store you got a friend in weed right right? Oh my God.

Hey, Randy Newman is like nails in a chalkboard to me. My husband loves him. So you were saying like people, you can kind of tell something about people if they call it pot. What about smoking dope? Is that, is that a cool thing?

I mean, the first vision in my head is definitely somebody over 60 yeah that's what my dad that's what my dad calls it hey if you want to smoke dope throw your life away that's on you man you know what's so funny oh my god i just remembered this jack i don't know why i didn't tell you i feel like and my mom i don't know if my mom listens sometimes and if you're listening ma whatever she talks about one one of the times when like she caught me smoking weed once. She's like, you know, I've smoked weed before, you know, back in the 70s. And I'm like, oh, yeah.

She's like, yeah, I remember we smoked me, your aunts. And then we watched Jaws. And it was so scary. But I'm curious, Ellen, like when you when you talk about sort of the like the barriers to entry, as you see it for people who are like, I don't know about this weed stuff. What are like the common things that you realize are like like the common obstacles that people have to sort of get over? And then they're like, oh, shit. Right. I actually enjoy this. I mean, I think the first thing is that it's just been illegal for so long. And so a lot of people just are scared of what could happen to them and scared of breaking the law or know someone who got in trouble. So that feels like the first thing that you have to come across. I think the second thing is a bad experience where you got too high and just had a really bad time and basically never want to touch it again.

Right. Or didn't have a terrible time, but it just didn't feel great. And it was a hassle to get and kind of a pain, you know, all of those barriers. So I think those are the two things that I hear about the most. And now, though, I have to say, most people just seem really curious. And the question I get the most now is what should I buy? Oh, what's a good entry point for me? Right. Like maybe some low THC just to kind of get it, see where you're at. I tell people, you know, there is definitely weed that feels kind of like a glass of champagne.

weed that feels kind of like glass of champagne. So maybe start there and add some CBD and take it slow and don't be afraid to cut the edible into fours. There's no shame. Some of these edibles on the market are strong. So it's kind of just think about this like something that is worth being curious about because you will get some answers that then you won't have to think about again you know it's sort of binary like once you kind of know what the right amount of a thc edible is for you you can choose different brands you can play around but you're not going to have to go back and be like do i like five milligrams or ten milligrams right very often do um or for me two milligrams. Oh, wow. Man, I need like 20. Yeah, Miles is- What should I do, Ellen? Why? Why am I at 20? Because it's your endocannabinoid system. We all have one. It's the system in our body that

balances all the other systems. And the tolerance that you have, I mean, I don't know how much weed you have in your body at any different times. I am weed. In the great words of Machine Gun Kelly. But if you have a headache and you are going to take something over the counter, are you the person that definitely needs two Advil or would half an Advil work for you? Because I think that all of our systems metabolize things coming in at a different rate. I'm super sensitive to all medicine and always have been. So I think that that's part of what I know about myself. And I bring that into when I consider what I what I want to be consuming with weed.

Yeah, Miles, you don't like even feel the effects of caffeine, really. So like, I don't know. I don't feel the effects of caffeine unless I'm drinking, like, undiluted, like, cold brew concentrate. I typically synthesize things a lot slower. Like, if I'm, you know, taking anything, I'm like, oh, everybody else is there already. I'm like, well, tick tock, what's going on? But, yeah yeah that is true with like stuff like that though i don't take a lot of like uh advil or whatever but i think that's just more born out of growing up with an immigrant mom who said you don't need that crap

yeah i was just it was the first example that came to my head but any kind of like caffeine for me i i can't drink it it makes me so jittery even one cup of coffee i switch to tea and and like even caffeine and tea i have to be super careful about because i makes me so jittery. Even one cup of coffee, I switch to tea and like even caffeine and tea I have to be super careful about because I just get that jittery feeling. Yeah. That's called the endocannabinoid. Endocannabinoid system. And it was discovered about almost 30 years ago in Israel. And it's the system that balances all the other systems in your body, much like the nervous system or the cardiovascular system. But no one really knows about it. And it's not really taught in medical school.

So luckily, there are some amazing cannabis doctors that are studying it. And I think this is all part of my like constantly just saying, please, can we have more research about this? Because I think there is so, so much to be discovered that will be incredible and we'll all really benefit from. That's super interesting. Hit me with one paranoia practical tip because I smoked weed a lot, but I'd say 50 to 70% of the time I would have a panic attack, but I just really liked the idea of weed. So like I would keep smoking it. But I wanted to be friends with these kids. weed so like i would keep i kept smoking it but i wanted to be friends with these kids yeah this is great they hate me wow jack you're bending your car keys in your hand again from your hand fist being so tight

well the best tip i have is if you get too high have a cbd tincture around and it can be a hemp derived cbd tincture you can buy can be a hemp derived CBD tincture. You can buy it online. They're easy to get and put a dropper under your tongue and hold it there for 30 to 60 seconds. And about 15 minutes, you will be, you will feel more like yourself and less high. It's an awesome trick. And tell everyone, because I feel like it does give people like, I kind of watched your shoulders drop a little.

You were like, oh, that might be better. And that's the kind of tip it is. So yeah, CBD, tincture. You could also smoke CBD if that's what you're into. You need a fast acting form, though. So a tincture or smoking is what's going to basically counteract the THC. And then, you know, for your specific experience, I would say probably never smoke cannabis with over 20% THC. Just like watch the percentages because we have receptors in our brain that connect to the THC and it sounds like yours are sensitive. And it's really just high THC that can bring on those feelings of paranoia. yeah yeah i was smoking at a time where you just smoked whatever your cousin could get at that given moment and it was it was also at a time when like some weed was still really bad and some was like the some would come through and you're like the heck right so yeah like did you hear my mom call my name literally a moving car literally does that just does that is it just me or does that tree

look like my mom's eyes watching me right now that's just me right that's is my yeah that's a dumpster also that tree uh alan it's been such a pleasure having you on tdz where can uh people find you follow you hear you all that. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. The podcast is called How to Do the Pot, and it's available wherever you listen. We have a website, dothepot.com, that has lots of information for women. And then we're on socials at Do the Pot. There it is. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? So I am not on Twitter very much,

but I could not ignore this Elon Musk tweet where he decided to ask his followers if he should sell 10% of his Tesla stock. And he did, and he sold $5 billion worth of stock. I used to work on Wall Street. I worked in a trading floor and it just like... Oh my God. I saw this heading come across my newswire and was like, wow, trading is different now. So it was very, I don't even know

if I have an opinion. I just kind of said, wow, this actually happened. He asked, you know, I don't know, maybe it was like 5 million people that came in and gave him an answer. And then two days later, he sold five billion dollars worth of Tesla stock. Yeah. What's he doing with it, though? Well, he's going to have to pay some taxes. So that's going to be part of it. This is like selling before the end of the year.

I mean, I don't know what he I don't follow him that often. Really, I'm just not on Twitter very much. But my dad has a Tesla and loves it. And he also loves to trade stocks. And he's so mad at the Tesla stock. So it's just kind of a funny thing for me to see that Elon Musk is creating this company with products that people love. And then he's doing things in the market. And I think Tesla was the most Googled stock of the year.

I mean, he's getting amazing press and free and it's just, it's a lot. And it all started on Twitter. There it is. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?

Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. And if you like the show, 90 day fiance, you're going to like my other podcast called 420 Day Fiance. Get it in, y'all. With Sophia Alexandra. It's a wonderful, wonderful time. Some tweets that I'm liking.

First one is from at Sad Crib tweeted. I thought the G spot was where all the homies hang out. And one more from. Oh, wait, I got a couple more. Another one from at Griff tweeted squinted for a solid 30 seconds at the phrase soy bisexual, trying to figure out what this latest insult meant until I went a little

further and realized I was reading a tweet in Spanish. So much is made of soys and soy boys. Yeah. Shout out to that. And the last one from yedoya at yedoya underscore tweeted i love being black because this dude just let the whole torture skit from m-e-t-h-o-d man play in the lift without knowing my demeanor at all you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'b. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Eric Bergstrom tweeted, Tinder is the worst way to learn your cousin is in town.

Oh, my. Lindsay Theusen at Lindsay Theus tweeted, Whenever I suspect someone doesn't like me, I'm extra nice to them. Like, good luck talking shit about how I told you I loved your jacket, you fucking bitch. And then Andrew Nadeau tweeted uh roman how will we know which one is jesus judas i'm gonna kiss him roman why judas applying lip gloss well i know right uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

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i think people will enjoy but i want to really just give a caveat that i like this song for a very specific activity that's getting high and playing the spider-man video game where i'm just web slinging around new york total freedom as spider-man but again you know i'll do it with a little bit of a drum and bass backdrop and this this track is called Free Falling by Freaks and Geeks. And there's just this synth line that when it comes in, I just start wrecking the shit out of bad guys as Spider-Man. And if this even remotely sounds like you, if you like the Amazing Spider-Man or the Miles Morales game,

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