The Daily Zeitgeist - Twitness Intimidation, Opt Out Endorsements? 11.18.19

Episode Date: November 18, 2019

In episode 518, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Classic Black Dude podcast host Clark Jones to discuss witness intimidation in the impeachment inquiry, Pete Buttigieg's plan for Black America, Roger Stone's guilty conviction, Donald Trump Jr.'s new book, and more!FOOTNOTES: Fox News Reporter Grasps at Straws: Constitution ‘Doesn’t Say Anything About Witness Intimidation’ Mayor Pete’s Big Announcement About Black Support Cited People Who Aren’t Black and Don’t Support Him Trump bemoans 'double standard' in Stone conviction The Idiot’s Guide to the Roger Stone trial Roger Stone Leaves the First Day of His Trial Early Over Alleged Food Poisoning DOJ Presses Judge To Allow ‘Godfather: Part II’ Clip At Roger Stone Trial Prosecutor says Roger Stone lied because 'the truth looked bad for Donald Trump' Insults, threats and ‘Godfather’ impressions: Feds parade Roger Stone witness-tampering evidence Donald Trump Jr. Calls Trans Athletes ‘Mediocre Men’ in New Book Donald Trump Jr. Likens Sacrifices Of Fallen Troops To Those Made By His Family DONALD TRUMP JR.: MY DAD CAN’T BE RACIST BECAUSE HE LET ME HANG OUT WITH MICHAEL JACKSON Republican Party Reportedly Pumping Up Sales Of Donald Trump Jr.’s New Book, $50 Gets Donors A Signed Copy Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling – from supporters WATCH: DJ Shadow - Kings & Queens feat. Run The Jewels [HQ Audio] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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courtesy of hannah salis. Somebody said that you're giving out sympathy bombs DJ Daniel. Shut the f*** up! He was ready for that. Damn. It's a shame he lost his voice in that rollerblading accident. Thank you for Hannah Soltis bringing attention to

the true meaning of my name. An implement for lifting up cars when you get a flat. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Bongdray3000, a.k.a. Kusha T, a.k.a. Penrip Lamar, a.k.a. Cronye West, a.k.a. Chance the Blunt Rapper, a.k.a. Milesish Graimbino, a.k.a. Vince Vaples,

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Keep them coming well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented clark jones what's up clark jones aka pod strickland aka podified uh activation aka lottyie, we likes to potty. We don't bother nobody. We in here. Man, there's so much going on. I don't even know if the news and Hannah was able to keep up between what y'all sent me last night and right now. It's changed. It's different.

Oh, my goodness. Nothing is the same. That's why we have to do two shows a day. That's why we need four people in the booth. That's right. And one overseeing us. Yeah, one man in the booth, the man in the back with no voice. Oh, man, starting five, we doing it.

Yeah. I wonder, are there people that have Stephen Hawking's disability that just use a soundboard instead of one of those typing machines? That would be like a Gen Z move. Right. Like a MP? Yeah. Like with the sound close? Yeah, exactly. I would watch Free a Gen Z movie. Right. They're like, they don't want- Like an MP? Right. Like with the-

Exactly. The sandals. Straight up. Yeah, exactly. I would watch- Free Shavakadu. Just an Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard and a bunch of drops. Yeah.

Netflix need that special. I know. They got everything else. Yeah, wow. Just Stephen Hawking with an NPC on stage. Boom. Hitting him up. Well, Clark, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to tell you where we are with the impeachment inquiry. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. You know we're a little bit behind you guys, but we are where we are, and it's important for you to know for frame of reference. Creep pitch. We are where we are, and it's important for you to know for frame of reference. Great pitch. We are where we are. You got to know for your sanity.

So whatever, whatever, whatever. We're going to check in with Mayor Pete. We're going to see what he has to say. I'm really pitching the fuck out of these stories. So excited. Roger Stone's going away. Yeah. We'll see how long.

Unless he gets... Pardoned. Pardoned. Pardon my interruption. Judicial system. We're going to look at his defense. What his defense had to say for him. His losing strategy.

His losing strategy. Also just... He was doing some... He was doing what I believe is known in legal circles as the most during his trial. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the number one New York Times bestseller, With a Dagger, which means a lot of bulk purchases. Oh, come on, man.

Come on. Yeah. Let him have it. I love that the New York Times is petty like that. They're like, we can't let these people lie. It's actually not a dagger. It's a needle dick. Like in the bottom, they're like, the needle dick represents bulk purchases,

not a legit number one. And we are going to say RIP to milk. 9 million BC to 2019 AD. Overdue. I don't know. It's been over. When's the first, I guess milk, well, probably the first humans. Well, look, we don't need to figure out a real corn by date.

It's got to be the first humans, right? But that's breast milk. You mean cow's milk? I guess, yeah, the moment we started using milk from other animals. Right. Did y'all ever watch the documentary, like the ad documentary about the Got Milk campaign? No. It's great.

It's on, I shouldn't do free advertising, but it's on one of your streaming networks. One of those. Whichever one you got, use it from your ex. But yes, the whole Got Milk was just like, I don't know, we just need people to buy milk. It was nothing. Because milk purchasing was going down. Because it wasn't for a company. It was just like, it was just something we needed to do.

We need to get some of this milk off. We got to get this milk off, man. These cows out here just frolicking, they ain't being put to work. Milk off right now. No free rent. That's also why they were giving away cheese and fast food during the 80s and 90s is because

they had excess milk fat because everybody started buying skim milk. Very strange story. It's so strange. They had a cave, a cold cave full of milk fat. We were talking about now the cheese deposits are getting too much now. Yeah. We have too much cheese. People aren't eating cheese like they used to?

Not like they used to. Yeah. I like Edam. Edam is the cheese from Berlin. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. What's it from? From Berlin, I think.

It's Eastern European. Yeah. I'm fancy. I don't know if y'all can tell by the Nike Cortez's, but yeah, yeah. Dutch, Dutch. It's a Dutch cheese. I date interracially, so I know what y'all be eating. Yeah, there you go.

Is that like a milk cheese, or is that like a- I don't know, but- It's a semi-hard cheese from Holland. From Holland. That's what it is. Netherlands. Netherlands. Yeah. It's so't know. It's a semi-hard cheese from Holland. From Holland. That's what it is. Netherlands. It's so damn fire. It's lecker.

Lecker, as they say. Oh, man. On a brioche bun with some turkey. Ooh, my favorite sandwich. Oil, pepper, a little jalapeno. Wow. Or some giardiniera. That's Chicago.

Yeah, the giardiniera. Whoa. Yeah, I think giardiniera makes pretty much anything better. I buy at the store like Vienna. Like that company makes like a prepackaged one because aren't they the ones who do like – Vienna is Midwest based. Yeah, right. That's why I think I bought it because a Midwest person was like, if you got to buy the store-bought one, don't buy your newfangled bullshit.

Come Jarder, go home. Yeah, exactly. You pull up some race track. The Jarder they come. The Jarder they come. The Jardter they come. The jarter they come. The jarter they fall. Clark, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Oh, shit. I was just looking up the career of David Hyde Pierce. David Hyde Pierce. Yeah, man, because they got the Fraziers coming back. They saying, and I don't know how they're going to do John the Dead. I'm sorry. I apologize. He passed away. Frazier Twitter do John the Dead. I'm sorry. I apologize. He passed away.

Frasier Twitter, do not comment. Do not comment. Jamahoney. Jamahoney. Jamahoney. There it is. Frasier Twitter is rough. But, yeah, I was just looking up all the things that he did, man, and, like, just his history.

So that's just a lot. David Hyde Pierce. Yeah, he's a theater guy. So, like, he's a theater guy. So like, and I love theater. So like, I was just looking up, you know,

just his career and like how he got to Frazier and different shows he was on. I had, I didn't ever, I never watched Frazier, but I respected him when he was in wet hot American summer. Yes. And he said, Oh,

fuck my cock. And I was like, wait, what? He's just, he's a master turning a singular phrase there was a

there was an episode of Frasier where he was trying to get back into the dating scene and it was like this mixer and he got rejected

by a woman and Frasier asked him what happened he was like her lips said no but her eyes said read my lips that's fucking great

that's like the greatest line in sitcom history to me and the way that he said it was just like fucking i love when people just nail that line it's amazing because those shows just had the same premise for like 90 of their jokes but they were just good every time they just like new writers rooms turning over of people just making the same low status smart guy jokes over and over. The beautiful thing is that it covered everybody because the pompous smart crowd, they were like Frazier and Niles. And then the international was Daphne. And then the Joe Schmoe American was dad.

And dogs loved Eddie. So they worked it in they gotta replace dad and Eddie but what if you weren't yeah well what if you weren't white then the extras

the extras that's what I mean that's why I was like watch it that one Space Needle episode I was like that meme of the black woman with her hands on her knees

trying to like look be like yeah I'm like is this no I guess I'll just watch a Fresh Prince rerun I've been to Seattle man there should have been way asian representation on frasier you know what i mean

yeah northwest i didn't even like you really get to find out um where the poor people of any type of race are if you go to the greyhound station in that city like i didn't i've never seen you know i grew up in chicago i lived in new york and i've never seen this large like poor asian representation until i took a mega bus right from uh vancouver to seattle and i'm like oh this is like yeah right right this is some diversity yeah yeah um that you don't see on fraser come on fraser the true story. Stop telling stories about Frasier having fucked his piano teacher when he was a child. See? Is that part of the lore of Frasier? I believe that was an episode.

There's a list. And they laugh it off. That's what scrambled eggs and tossed salads. It's all a reference to that episode. Scrambled eggs is because... Never mind. You were about to go there. Come Jarda, don't come at all.

Frasier runs deep. That's all we'll say. You know what? I'm not gonna pull up from that far. Your whole face is turning red. I love it. And I wish I knew what you were gonna say. Cause your cheeks are rosy. David Hyde Pierce had a small role in The Terminator. Did you know that? I did not

know that. I didn't know that either. Wait, what? He should have been, was he like the fetus? Yeah. Was he the fetus in Sarah Connor? He broke the glass. No, I guess he was, yeah, I guess he was maybe like one of the punks in the bar scene. Did y'all see the new one?

Is it any good? I hear it's bad, but that's not going to stop me because I've seen every Terminator film. David Cameron's back. So like they said like that touch is back there, but it's just like- David Cameron from the UK, the politician? No, James Cameron. It's early. David Cameron had a cameo.

Like David Hyde Pierce. Also in the background of the bar scene. What's something you think is underrated? John Witherspoon. Rest in peace recently passed yeah man like if you were in a black sitcom or anything black and funny in the 90s really he made it like he's one of the few who did martin and fresh prince of bel-air right like that's really kind of like a coup d'etat of black sitcoms. Most people are split between two. Which one did you like more? But he did them all.

The father from the Wayans Brothers. And he stole the show in Boomerang with Eddie Murphy. Yeah. And he was only on screen for about three minutes. But he gave us three quotes to bang, bang, bang, coordinate. And I can curse on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah't don't be pussy whip whip that pussy yeah right he gave us three classics in in under three minutes yeah uh he

was he was just the best i was watching some of the eulogies from his funeral service so funny that was i mean wow i've never been more like engaged while listening to eulogies yeah because like you're hearing so many great comedians talk about their experiences, how much they looked up to him. There was one where Sean Wayans was talking about the first time he met him. He was like, this dude is so funny.

And I don't know. I know when I have something going, I want to work with him. And he said the second him and Marlon realized that the Wayans Brothers show was about to be something, they were like, we're going to get him to be Pops.

He has to play our father. They tried to get Danny Glover. NBC tried to get Danny Glover and they walked away because they couldn't get John Witherspoon and then they went to the WB. They're like, hey, we like him. Wait, NBC was like, it's either Danny Glover or we walk like you can't have the show.

They were like, alright't have the show. And they were like, all right. They wanted Danny Glover. We're out. To be told for this shit. And they were like, we want Johnny Witherspoon. And they ended up walking and they did the WB instead. The rest is history. The rest is history.

What is something you think is overrated? Joe Biden. And it's not for the reason people think like right i know there's a obviously a anti-white male thing happening in this country i don't know if you're familiar with every news article but he's just like my categorization he's Wait, white men? What's wrong? What's problematic? What's wrong with white men? Whoa, my computer shut down. He's just like, my categorization, he's the plus one at a party who stayed after the person who brought him left. Oh, wow. And he went to the bathroom.

We needed him three years ago. Now he's back. He wants to run the ox court. But like, bro, we've been listening to Hooper's thing for three years we needed you when Obama left and now he's like I just don't

I don't and Patrick DeWalt Patrick I'm sorry he's jumping in now I think he's gonna cut into some of those votes I just

all of these people are cutting into him Bloomberg like right yeah the center of the party

the media is so thirsty for a centrist to rise that is not Joe Biden because I think they're tired of Joe Biden. So they're like, Pete's really surging. And, like, he hasn't really surged at all. You can say that. The crazy thing is everything that we see, we go, what did he just say? But, like, the people who are inside, they get the even, like, crazier quotes. Right.

And they know the in-depth, off-the-record history. So if they're like, yo, even Hillary's like, many, many people are telling me to run again. I'm like, first of all, nobody said that. But it's like they just know that it's going to get bad if he's the nominee. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, just to see the parade of people being like,

oh, maybe y'all made a great unifier between the left and the center. Herman Cain is like trying to be a Democrat. It's like everybody. Right. Desmond Tutu.

Like, people are coming out of the woodworks. Like, damn, I ain't seen you since that Schwarzenegger movie. He wants on the ticket. Somehow like Diamond and Silk are like,

you know what? This might be our moment. This might be the... It's wide open. There's no horse in the race. Yeah. What is a myth? What's something people think are like, you know what? This might be our moment. This might be the time. It's wide open. There's no horse in the race. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Two things.

Vegans get a harder time than they should because I'm seeing someone who's a vegan and like my attitude has been dope the past couple days. Like eating, just try to eat Buffalo cauliflower once Instead of buffalo wings Straight up The voiceless man in the booth Yeah It's a good thing this motherfucker Don't have a mic

It just like It won't It won't You know it's like sage Like it won't magically Make you better But it might kick out Some of the negative energy

Oh yeah That you have in you Just try Try to go vegan for a day Yeah And see you know Sorry to the milk energy that you have in you. Just try. Try to go vegan for a day and see. Sorry to the milk people. Sorry to the cows. Eat more chicken. Whatever. But just try

for a day to not put hormones, extra hormones inside you. Milk people are the underrated evil industry in American history. So you don't have to apologize to them. You're right. Milk people. They go hand in hand. Oh man, we had a baby. Damn, we got to apologize to them. And babies. You're right. Milk people. Yeah. They go hand in hand. Oh, man, we had a baby.

Damn, we got to get milk now. Babies have had it too easy for too long. Way too long. I've said it before. Make sure you get jobs. Yeah, I've heard people starting to do veganism during the week and then treating themselves on the weekends. That seems like a good strategy. I might give that a shot.

The weekend. The weekend. All right. Yeah. That's the new good strategy. I might give that a shot. The Weeknd. All right. Yeah. That's the new Weeknd album. He's rebooting himself. Let's talk about impeachment. Uh-oh.

Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Will this creep get impeached? I mean, I think they got the votes in the House. Right. It's dicey, man. I mean, I think they got, I mean, they have the votes in the House. Right. It's dicey, man.

Even, like, with the impeachment, I could see it not happening and him trying to buoy that into, see, I was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do the impression better. That's all he wants to do, though. But I think what's really crazy is his taxes. I think that's the thing. His taxes. Yeah, yeah. He's scared about that.

Like, he appealed to like please don't show them my taxes please Supreme Court please change your mind it's not fair it's not fair they're gonna find out

I never paid any yeah so I think I think depending on which happens first him not getting impeached and then the taxes are released if the taxes are released first

and then him not getting impeached I think that's bad but if he gets not impeached and then the taxes are released if the taxes are released first and then i'm not getting impeached i think that's bad but if he gets not impeached and then the taxes drop right and that could be the thing with the taxes like you know i think a lot of people think because of he's losing those cases just means like all right go to trumpstaxes.org to get the pdf now but really it's to be you know for that for investigators to see it even so if they bring charges based on that we'll get to see but it's like still like another you know there's we have so many things down the road to think about but i think with impeachment we're seeing that at the very least the republicans man are their defenses are vaporizing but they are doing this thing where like they just ask so many

dumb questions that even i'm like getting tired of it like I'm like yo I get because at this point I'm like yeah we get it man like you did that shit yeah wait I have a good one call them Fred Durst because that's some bad faith man wow

should we end the podcast this has been fun this is not me I mean this is the end of the Daily Zeitgeist. It's the last episode. This whole building is done. It's closed for filming. The next Terminator movie. That is the thing that jumps out at me

is that during the Watergate inquiry, people were like, oh, the Republicans are actually letting this be a trial like they're like they're actually letting people and they're asking questions that suggest they don't have their mind made up they're trying to find out the answer well white men were still very dominant back then back then yeah excuse me yeah well i'm saying the mentality right they're like yo this tank is full you know Because everyone now is responding like, fuck, man. We got little bits and threads to hold on to now.

So it seems like the calculus is different. They're like, whoa. Yeah, they're off balance. We're still on top, baby. Yo, what killed me yesterday, I was reading the news, and Clinton chimed in. Which one? Hillary?

The potential first man. He was chiming in. And first of all, rest in peace to the victims of the shooting in Sagas High School, but he was talking about that on CNN. But then he added advice to Trump on how to handle this.

Did you see this? He's like, you need to be more presidential. And that's what his people are telling him to do. So Bill Clinton and Trump's advisors kind of agree on how Trump should be handling all this crazy impeachment stuff. And on what airlines

to fly. What airlines to fly. Who should be running for president against Trump. You're making it hot. How Epstein really did commit suicide. They're just going over notes. It's really crazy. Oh boy. Yeah.

We going there? we've been there so i mean the last witness that we had uh was marie ivanovich yeah the ambassador to ukraine oh yeah that was who he was like basically intimating that he was gonna put a hit on basically he was like things he's gonna go through some things so she talked about that actually reading the transcript for the first time and somebody was like whoa like i just saw all the blood drain from your face like she was so terrified she's talking about how terrified she was by the president's threat and he starts tweeting during her testimony talking shit at her during her testimony it was the first like real-time witness tampering i don't think we've ever had that because usually like somebody can't tweet and everybody knows it at the same time but like this was as she was testifying she was getting

threatened by the most powerful man in the world or like shit talked about her by the most powerful man in the world that is is straight up witness tampering. Shout out to everybody still persevering, man. That takes some strength. What you've seen from Bill Taylor, especially in Yovanovitch, they don't give a fuck. But also, they have so much strength within them. They can look these Republicans dead in their eyes,

and no matter how much bullshit they're trying to dress up up in their questions they just speak directly to the heart of the matter and they're unfazed so it that's why it looks even worse like muller would get frazzled at times like well what paragraph he just didn't give a fuck like he didn't he was like this isn't my thing like you guys yeah he's like you hired me bro it's like i'm here to like i wrote a report if you're not gonna read it that's on you i gotta go right yeah whereas they are like no this is a fucking problem and i'll tell you why don't try to ask these disingenuous questions that are trying to make it to oversimplify things yeah um they volunteer and shit like damn we didn't even know that right exactly um so then so trump tweets this during her testimony everywhere maria bonavich went turned bad

she started off in somalia how did that go then fast forward to ukraine where the new ukrainian president spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him it is a u.s president's absolute right to appoint ambassadors okay i don't know what any of that means right absolute right okay the interesting part though too is like absolute power when he says the president spoke unfavorably, there's a transcript where Zelensky goes, thank you so much for being the first person to tell me to look out for Yovanovitch. Yeah. It's like, where's the call?

Now where's that fucking call? So it's funny because even these other transcripts the White House releases, it has information like, wait, hold the fuck. Wait, what? So there's another call that we're not seeing? Where's that? Has there been like a – because I keep looking. I'll be honest. I didn't read the whole transcript yet.

I wasn't the best high school student. Yeah, don't need to. But like is there a thing that people can point to yet that's emerged that's like this is the – what's been the most damning thing with the transcript so far or with the impeachment so far, or with the impeachment so far? I mean, the transcript is pretty damning, because it's clear that he's asking him to, you know, he's basically intimating that it's a... Yeah, it's bribery.

It's extortion. And then... Or he's extorting Zelensky. And then we have all these people who have no, like they are, you know, career, they just want what's best for America's, you know, international interests. Just saying that, you know, he was doing the worst possible reading of that transcript. So you have like all this, all these witnesses. The person, the phone call is pretty damning that we just found out about him on last week where somebody overheard him asking.

Investigations, investigations. About investigations. Hey, what's going on with the president? He's only focused on these investigations. Right. Like verbatim. I mean, yeah, so you have. On investigating Biden. Yeah.

Yeah. It's clear that the aid was held up it's clear why the aid was held up based on all the people who are testifying as to what the explanations were which are sort of like you'll lean on them to get them to announce an investigation and they'll get their aid and they'll get their visit because a and this is again what they need to underline the visit is very important to president zielinski because as a new president when you get that photo op you flick it up one time with the president then that communicates to the rest of the world. Don't fuck with him.

They're allies now. And then on top of that, when you hold up, he's like, oh, you want your little precious fucking javelin missiles to fight off Russian tanks? Yeah. You know, then now you're fucking with their safety and being like, oh, you want these? Okay, well, this is what you need to do. And then the thing is, it's not like he's just saying, okay, we'll give you the aid. If you do the research,

he's basically saying, find something. Yeah. Not, not just look it up, look it up, find something that I can use. They know they can read his intent.

But really he just wanted of, he wanted a video clip of the president saying, yes, we are investigating the Bidens and the 26th election. They wanted him to go on CNN. They had the outlet in mind. They were like, so you're going on CNN to say

this? Yes? Yes? That's what you're going to do? Give me one moment. The Democrats gradually changing how they're messaging this from quid pro quo, which was a republican term in the first place to bribery what miles you you have the political background i need you to explain this to me why are they not saying he's trying to cheat at the 2020 election the election

that's happening that people like even the people who are like yo like don't let's let's not impeach him the reason they're saying that is because let's just decide it in the 2020 election they need an actual charge they can they can define it's just like not concrete enough yeah it's too nebulous I think to say that that's what it obviously that's the intent

but there's because what see that's why they're using the Latin of like the quid pro quo because in legalese they can say this is a legal term where this is a legally defined act that we can say it's very clear it's not nebulous they can say that's straight up what it is right and i think that's i think they're a little too hung up on being rigid about well it's it's it's this thing and let's be very narrow because when we try to do all the obstruction in russia and other, it got, it's just too fucking disparate that they couldn't actually like really get

it focused. It's that same shit with like the both sides, the journalism and stuff where it's just like they had, I feel like people are holding themselves to these technicalities and it's like, just talk to people like intelligent people and just be like, yo, this is what it is.

You know, this is what it is. But it's, it's easier to just say, this dude is abusing the fuck out of his power. Bottom line, whether it's the election or not, you can, obviously you can argue what the intent of that is because that's already what they're doing is being like,

well, it's actually not because of the election. It's because even the, this is, and this is where, I think this is why, because they say, even during the Obama administration, there were concerns raised over the fact that Hunter Biden was working at Burisma. It's like you said. It's an intentional usage of terms and then redefining what that term means.

Right. That's been kind of the strategy. It's not a witch hunt when we know who the witch is. Right. We know we're not hunting for a witch. We know. He keeps tweeting. We got it, man.

We know exactly where the hunting for a witch. We know. He keeps tweeting. We got it. We know exactly where the witch is. Right. It's just not a quid pro quo, like trying to define what the term is because it's a term that you can beat. Right. You know what I mean? Right. It's frustrating.

Or just make it really clear on how this abuse of power is, too, because I think if you're – I mean, look, everyone is so partisan now. I don't think it really even matters if you have like a really clear way to – or a metaphor or anything. But it's like if a police officer had a gun, you can use that gun correctly, right, to possibly defend yourself. Or you could rob somebody for their cell phone. Right. And then it's like, well, see now you put like, but that's your right to use the gun as a police.

I was like, well, no, no, but there's a difference, right? One is actually in service of the community. If we,

I mean, I think that's a bad analogy, but anyway, and the other is to, for purely your own personal benefit semantics. Yeah. And I think that's where, you know,

we'll see. Cause I think if they can get one good, like if they can get a Mulvaney or Bolton up there, then it'll be it'll help but I think really what what's interesting though to me is that even in the senate they don't have the votes to outright just dismiss this as soon as he gets there right so I think that's where obviously there's a growing number of people in the electorate that believe that this is terrible and that's slowly I think translating the pressure into the Senate.

But, you know, it's got to be a problem because they keep trying to paint it as boring. And I'm not going to watch it, but they'll comment on it. I'm not watching that. But also, that party is stupid. I actually didn't want to go anyway. Right. But yeah, do you see what they're wearing? What are they doing in there?

What are they serving? I mean, that was legit. Fox News was just like, this is so boring and lame and nobody's going to pay attention to this. Because it's not sexy. Well, because when the facts are fucking you, you got to be like, yeah, but it ain't hot fucking. It's not fun. It's not hot, though.

Right. It's like spit. Ain't no video. Yeah, it ain't the right thing. And this is the point, though. So after Trump straight up witness tampers in real time or intimidates in real time. Yeah. Adam Schiff was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Just so you know, this is some wild shit. Yeah. And essentially saying that, like, this could be interpreted as some form of intimidation tactic. And then when Fox during their break in the testimony, they had to talk about it. This is the fucking defense of trump tweeting at this witness in real time was now something else that was said by adam schiff the chair of the intelligence committee he indicated that this might be an attempt to intimidate the witness now when we look at the u.s constitution and we look at article 2 section 4 it doesn't say

anything about uh witness intimidation you know it talks about high crimes and misdemeanors bribery which is a theme we've heard a lot about here but you could see potentially that democrats could use that moment uh to try to tie into an article of impeachment yeah you know democrats and you see i think this is why too you see how narrowly even they talk about it on the right right it's almost okay, so if this is the vocabulary we're going to restrict ourselves to, then I'm going to put you in a box where you can't be like, well, you know, witness tampering is not in there. It's like, well, bribery is.

I think it's a mistake to let the right kind of set the terms. And like they just I think they need to get at the he's trying to cheat at the 2020 election because I think that is the thing that's different about this. But I guess who do you think that would compel? It's the truth about the overall terms that I keep seeing everybody get lost in little terms. Like you were saying, it's like the fucking quid pro quo versus bribery versus extortion versus witness tampering. And it's just like, overall, this is what this dude is doing. And you guys are just losing the forest for the trees, I feel like. I think the Democrats in the actual trial or the hearings are actually doing that.

But the PR war is what they're trying to win because I don't think they're going to win in court so like the PR part is like right just like yeah like well people, an impeachment is boring you know what I mean it is boring especially if you're losing

so it's like well let's just make it as flowery on Twitter, on social media. So people, this is public outcry against it. I mean, I just think if you really extend this thing out, it becomes about so much. Like, if you really take the time to, like, mine every thread that they're finding, it's going to show so, like, it's a much bigger picture. Right. Like, we're looking at a fucking zit on, like, an elephant's ass and trying to figure right like we're looking at a fucking zit right on like an elephant's

ass and trying to figure out what we're looking at and we're like oh she'll zoom out bro right this is actually this whole other fucking yeah we're getting really caught on that because i think ultimately right we talked about this in the beginning is that if the you know if the ukrainians go to the table with the russians you know, seed part of Crimea, at least like the politically to Russia. And there's no more conflict, I guess, on paper. That means no more sanctions against Russia. Right. If they can if they can say that the Ukrainians meddled in the 2016 elections, that means no more sanctions for Russia for meddling in the elections. Right. So there's this other element, too, that like these little micro movements also reverberate

in much larger ways down the road. And when you also see that, I don't know if it's going to come up about how the president did this with the last Ukrainian president about being like, yo, you want these javelins? Right. I need you to do something. Right. Like this happened before. That's how he goes about his business.

Yeah. It's like, what do I have on you? What do you need? How can I use that to get what I want? And I think it's, I think the Republicans are getting off easy

by just thinking that the motives are just to, you know, smear Joe Biden. Right. I think that's where it's, they're like,

hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This thing is being powered by a much different motor. But I guess right now and how narrow it is, and I don't know, I mean, that could be because the Mueller report

wasn't as sexy as they thought to tie all this shit to Russia, that they're just like, fuck it, just like, let's just be as hyper-focused as possible. I think they're just like scared and everybody's, you know, just, his tactics work, man. Like the media is just, yeah,

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body and soul at katiecouric.com slash body and soul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. And we're back. And the other biggest story, that's the other reason that I think they should talk about that. The other biggest story is the 2020 election. Oh, that thing talking about the 20 the fact that the impeachment is about the 2020 election the you know there's a reason 2020 election is such a big story because it fucking matters uh and so narrowing it to uh just mr pete budaj edge uh the the centrist, the great white hope for centrists who just are desperate for somebody besides Biden.

Sent out an email last week about his support from HBCUs, right? Yeah. Well, you know, it's this is a clipping, right? They say in it, HBCcu times for historically black colleges and universities again to zoom out a bit p budaj has a really big problem with getting support from black voters right because of his time as a mayor right uh and just relative inaction or just firing his mayor and look there's there's a lot of things going around that for black voters are like i'm not so sure about this person yeah

absolutely i mean this is where i stepped in well actually i went to hbcu and um shout out to morehouse college in atlanta and uh yeah i mean indiana has a problem with black people right you know what i mean like growing up in chicago it was just like i've i've gotten pulled over maybe like long distances three times and it was always in indiana they have a problem with it but um and i don't know if there's anything he can do yeah it's like active and it's still like very popular um so i don't i don't i don't know i don't know what Buttigieg has what plan he has he released the Douglas plan that was about reinvesting in

communities of color and things like that about trying to create some kind of increased equity and most people, that just sort of came and went because most people really aren't taking him seriously when it comes to things like that and they're not HBCUs in Indiana, so how would you even know well this is like in general right yeah just for the nation not just for yeah yeah

yeah exactly um so at this headline in this in this email it says more than so from the hbcu times more than 400 south carolinians endorsed mayor p budaj's douglas plan for black america uh it says by columbia city council member tamika divine south carolina democratic party black caucus chair johnny cordero uh and a pastor and state representative ivory thigpen and okay that's that's there you're like okay that's interesting there's some support there the intercept started digging in a little bit and found that two of those three people i just named said they never supported the plan that is wild they. So this is from Ivory Thigpen. Even though I had had conversations with the Buttigieg campaign, it was clear to me, or at least I thought I made it clear

to them that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter, actually co-chair of the state, and I was not seeking to endorse their candidate or the plan. But what I had talked about was potentially giving them a quote of support in continuing the conversation, because I do think it's a very important conversation. The next person, Johnny Cordero, I never endorsed that plan. I don't know how my name got on there. No, that's not true. I know how my name got on there before explaining that Buttigieg had emailed him the plan and asked for feedback, which began a conversation with Buttigieg's staff. Quote, this is from Johnny Cordero, I had some difficulties with it.

The long and the short of it was they never sufficiently answered my questions, so I never actually endorsed the plan. Also, when they looked around at the people they could identify from the 400 South Carolinians that had endorsed it, 40% of those people were white. So it seems like they were trying to be a little tricky and associate South Carolinians with black voters. And then when they looked, when The Intercept asked about like,

you know, these people were saying that they don't support it. They're like, oh, well, we sent an email, which was basically like an opt-out email. It was saying like, this is about to print. If you want to to retract your support, please let us know in this email so you can opt out. Wow. Like an unsubscribe.

Yeah, exactly. Or it's like, or your free trial has ended and we will begin with the annual charge of $200. I just love any quote that was like, I never heard of that. I don't know how they got that information. Actually, that's not true. I know how they got that information. I want to see that. I want to see the back quote. I want to see somebody

say, hey, wait, no, I know how they got that information. Wait, hold on. I know exactly how they got that information. Wait, wait, oh, is this about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so they started an email conversation with me getting my opinion on it. Right. And that turned into an endorsement. So I think a lot of people are just sort of being like, that's a little disingenuous there, but

you know politics politics it's just this this oh it's so dirty to just blatantly lie have the story get out there and by the time the correction gets out it's already more yeah it's an old story that email was actually sent on october 25th oh yeah that's like five years ago yeah exactly and then only this like last week they they kind of went through and be like, hold on. Two of these three people you're naming as like your top line endorsers are like, I never said that. Right. He's leading in Iowa, though.

Right. Buttigieg is. Yeah. Which shocked the shit out of me. Yeah. I mean, I think Iowa seems they're still very malleable. Like there aren't as many people who are dead set. Like there are a lot of people who are still kind of being like,

I could be third. Or people who don't know. How does one still not know? Right. I think you just, you want to see if you're being completely holistic, you want to be like, what's every person's plan so I can put them all on the table.

Right. And then go through them like that. If you're being very, very thorough. I also think alphabetically Buttigieg is first, right? So they just. Or Biden. Oh, Biden is first. also think alphabetically Buttigieg is first, right? Or Biden.

Oh, Biden is first. Yeah. And then they're like, no, he's crazy. So they just went with the next name. Right. Yeah, it'll be Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg. Yeah. I don't even think Bloomberg missed some of the deadlines already.

I know Duvall has missed some of them. He's missed a few. I think he's more focused on Iowa, New Hampshire. Duvall has missed some of them. He's missed a few. I think he's more focused on Iowa, New Hampshire. But they have said that that's a big plus for a candidate being listed first on the ballot. That's why they randomize it. Because that's not fair. But again, this is the thing.

We said this when Bloomberg was talking about getting in the race. Him entering the race pulls support away from the Buttigieg's, Biden's, Patrick's of the world. Right. Who's his base? Bloomberg? For Bloomberg.

It's billionaires. Rich Democrats? Yeah, the media apparatus based on what I saw on MSNBC when he announced and people with their mouths

out loud were like, he could be the unifier. I was like, okay. Right. All right, General Electric. Yeah. I feel like never Trumpers, were like he could be the unifier i was like okay all right all right general electric yeah i feel like uh never trumpers like the republicans who are going to vote against trump like the never

trumpers would probably go more bloomberg because it's still a familiar world in which the you know oligarch class of this country isn't in the crosshairs of our political reforms yeah who had the quote about about socialism never took off because most people think they're just billionaires who's going through a down period or something like that? I forgot who said it. But that quote, it's just like, oh, I'm just going through a rough time right now.

Billionaires waiting for their luck to turn around. Until next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Things could change. Yeah, yeah. Things could change. You never know. Never know, man. You're up, yeah, yeah. Things could change. Yeah, yeah. Things could change. You never know. You never know, man.

You're up, you're down. You're up, you're down. So, yeah, people are just, you know, it's just this optimism to go with what you perceive as real. And I don't knock anybody for having their candidates. I know, like, a lot of the tone of, especially during primaries, is people were like, well, why are you coming after my candidate?

Look, you're free to back whoever the fuck you want. At the end of the day, I implore you to really look at what the reverberations are of some of these policies. And the same way I try and look at people who support candidates, I don't quite understand and be like, what is it that makes you feel good about this person? candidates i don't quite understand to be like what is it that that makes you feel good about this person right and it's not even that i think and i think a lot of people apply this whole shit of being like oh you don't fuck with my favorite band right you're not and it's really like yo this is not it's it's not like i know people do take it like that on either way coming after people or defending their candidates uh but at the end of the day i just the thing we have to focus on is fucking turning up to the polls. Yeah, absolutely.

And I do know that, yes, for some people, they look at some of these candidates and they have a very specific worldview or future of the country that they want to see play out in real time. And that's that's what that enthusiasm is. I think they fight each other. The damning the most damning thing that can come out of the Texas is people finding out he's not as rich as they thought he was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That amongst anything else, whether he invested in Russia, you know, you can explain all that away. But if Donald Trump is really worth like $75,000. That would fucking torpedo.

Wait, he's one of us? Exactly. Right. I hate us. I mean, based on the fact that he has scotch tape as a tie clip and that one thing, I was like, he might be worth $75. He might have two ties total. I've only seen two. Get the one without the stains.

Flip it, reverse it, bring it back. I mean, you heard a one. He's going to flame me. My greasy ass tie. He said my shit was looking young last week. Let's get McDonald's. Big Macs. He said that dress shirt was looking young, man.

All right, let's talk about Roger Stone real quick. The Riddler. Yeah. The Riddler was found guilty on all seven counts he was facing, including obstruction, lying to Congress, witness intimidation. I know it's been a while. Is that when he was like, I was going to kill you, Credico, or whatever? Yeah.

Prepare to fucking die. I think he, yeah, he said prepare to die. He also told him to pull a, like, named a godfather character who changed his testimony under a threat of death. And then he was just like, oh, no, I was just telling him to do an impression because he does good impressions and see the thing that had happened was i was just yeah he he fucked up he he basically it seems like he convinced himself that like he was just doing a bit and reality was like going along with his bit or something because there was just like he was

just fucking around like the truman show yeah it was just like he i don't know if he just lost touch with reality but he just seemed like he just kept yeah he was so i mean it started when he was witness tampering doing all this shit he was arrested was forced to apologize for instagramming a threatening photo urging his followers to murder the judge in his case. Well, it wasn't that. It just had crosshairs on her forehead. Right. Yeah, it was a movie.

Yeah. It was an outtake. Wouldn't it be cool if she got that tatted? So it's like novelty t-shirts. I feel like this is just like a boomer who was not able to deal with the internet. Like he was just like, it was just funny to him. Also, these people grew up in a time where they were getting away with this shit forever,

so there was no reason for them to think the outcome would ever be different. But he's always doing stunts. This is the dude, by the way, who has Richard Nixon tattooed on his back. Full back tattoo. Is it full? No, it's just a big patch. Not mini. It's not like Steve-O's back tattoo?

No, it would be something that would cover. Not mini. It's not like Steve-O's back tattoo? No, it would be like something that would cover a whole pectoral, but on one side of his back. I blame Alex P. Keaton. He's the reason. He's not faultless in this, man. He normalized Nixon in the 80s. So during jury selection, a random guy moaned loudly and collapsed on the floor.

Hilarious. They didn't say it was somebody who Roger Stone placed there, but it just seemed. Then soon after, Roger Stone left early claiming he had food poisoning. Then the biggest deal that his lawyers made was about like not showing godfather in the courtroom because it would like taint people into thinking that he was like trying to be a mafiosa and right but they're like it's relevant because he's referring to the character of frank pantangeli right other two yeah to say there's like this is what that means yeah you know what i mean yeah uh it's our writer jm mcnabb pointed out that like the godfather is what people were afraid the joker

would be to like this generation the godfather is to boomers it's just like they reference the godfather like other times in the transcript where they're like right hillary clinton's ugly like luca brazi they're like shit like she shouldn't talk like k right it's just like they just fucking love love to just reference that it makes what do you think like the millennial equivalent is going to be when there's an you know inevitably corrupt ass millennials running shit what do we over reference um mean girls mean girls is a good one she doesn't even go here yeah i mean fuck out of here like yeah mean girls i mean i think joker will probably work its way in there i think danos for sure oh yeah like mad avengers reference. Yeah. So many Avengers. So sad.

It's a new one every year. Really? Like, yeah, there's, they, we have a much more complicated and varied pop culture, rich media diet,

right. Diet. Whereas they're just all pulling from the same movie that like guys were allowed to like in the sixties. Well, we all had, we're watching the same movie back then. Now it could be

anything. It's any number of hundreds. Then it's like some people make references to some streaming show I never heard of. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Somebody called Chris Cuomo Fredo and he tried to fight him. That's another guy. It's the N word for Italian people.

No, it's not, Chris. Good man. Please have a seat. Please sit down. Being a real Fredo right now. Yeah, yeah. In 2017, it was reported Trump staffers were quoting the Godfather. This is just...

What? Chill out, guys. In 2017, Trump staffers were quoting the Godfather. They were saying, we got to go to the mattresses. It's just like this toxic toxic masculinity that like you know Francis Ford Coppola has come out multiple times and been like no they're not like this is a bad stop shut the fuck up stop watching the movie if you're going to take it that way and you know the a nation full of like shock jocks on fm radio or just like out here being like thinking it's the coolest shit in the world well i guess i mean sort of the implications of the

stone thing is basically that this proves that he was the conduit between wiki leaks and the trump campaign right he said he wasn't trump said it wasn't so now people like okay so he was lying to muller then yeah because they have this evidence that like no sir we can tell that you knew about But he said he wasn't. Trump said it wasn't. So now people are like, okay, so he was lying to Mueller then? Yeah. Because they have this evidence that like, no, sir, we can tell that you knew about this and you were, in fact, this sort of go-between. But then they were saying in this article that his argument was that – or essentially in his mind that he wasn't trying to deceive Congress but that he believed that the stuff around wiki leaks just didn't fit the parameters of their investigation so he didn't need to talk about it there's just there's a there's an over assault of like from the right and whatever if you that's your if that's your jam but like of just seeing what sticks and if it don't stick say i was joking yeah like they asked um giuliani yesterday like um

hey what do you think about trump maybe selling you out during this whole thing he's like oh i don't think so i have good insurance life insurance in case uh you know i slip on the tub or something like that right right and his lawyer chimed in like he was joking right anytime your lawyer has to say you joking it's a horrible joke the right can't defend you anymore we didn't talk about this anything like one person Dean can scream loud Howard Dean can scream loud once and it's like he's the

screamer guy but the right they just will say absurd shit it's almost like the right are the mean girls you know what I'm saying guys like Trump is some sort of Thanos referring to it and we all have us disappear snap and then you're that other movie they couldn't shake that one off so thank you for that bomb because that was a violent bomb.

That was an actually bomb. Shake that off. But when you look at it with Giuliani being like, I have insurance, right? That was a long rattle. Mick Mulvaney also said the similar thing too. And they're like, are you worried about getting ousted? And he was like, I know too much. What?

So you see they like they have, they're already showing. He said that? Yeah, they're already, that wasn't like front page news. they're lifting up their shirts right now and being like,

I got that thing on. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, that's how they talk to Trump through his language. They're threatening him back. They know he doesn't believe

or like hear anything unless it's coming at him through Fox News. I'm saying that's why they're like, no. Through his Terminator vision. Or if they're like, yeah, test me. I don't give a fuck. I'll bring this motherfucker down.

I have good insurance if he throws me under the bus. All of this shit is so guilty looking. How many people who work for him have been found guilty of crimes? All of them. He has a high turnover rate. It's like when I worked at The Gap. Like, motherfuckers are getting fired every week. Eventually,

you start looking at the management. More people stay at The Gap on 700 North Michigan and Chicago than the Trump administration. Yeah, but I think, again, that just shows you what the... That's the phase we're in right now is everyone is, like, readying their insurance policies now. Oh, yeah. And they let him know we got something.

Yeah, they're like, okay, you can fuck with me, but at your own detriment. That's why it's like, it keeps like, it's been a week of like, is he going to fire Mulvaney? Is he not? It's like, he's trying to figure out, okay, if I do fire him, what's going to be- What's that cost?

Is that going to make him talk? Right. And I'm sure Trump's like pulling Mulvaney into like closed door meetings where he's just like you're not going to say shit right right like we've all had like bad bosses where they're just where you're just like yeah man no no of course not i'm on your side man like 100 dude what are you talking about he's like having a closed door and he's asking him incriminating obviously incriminating things like yeah so you made the threats and then the tape recorder. Right.

Oh my God, bro. Do you wear the fucking wire? No. I feel like Trump wouldn't even notice if the tape recorder fell out of the... No way. It would have to be a tape recorder. It couldn't be a phone with the recorder app on.

Wait, you got a phone call? Yeah, he'd believe it. You could hold the phone like this, aiming it at him in video, and be like, you're not recording this. He's like, no, no, I'm just checking Twitter. It's just like unplugged Ethernet cords, like that photo from the assassination. Yeah, right, right.

Yeah, from the al-Baghdadi mission. From the assassination. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.

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to look, as we always do, slash have never done, at the New York Times bestseller list because there's a highly relevant book at number one. It's Triggered, Bitches, Libs. Oh number one It's Triggered Bitches, libs It's Triggered

Who is that by? Donald Trump Jr. Oh that's not the cowboy bodyguard romance novel? Not the cowboy bodyguard Fuck novel by L. James With the dude with sick abs on the cover That's the other book that's called Triggered Is that number two?

The true number one I guarantee they saw the other book that's called Triggered. Is that number two? The true number one. I guarantee they saw the sales for that shoot through the roof with people being like, damn, Don Ju looks good on the cover of this book. How many MAGA people bought the wrong Triggered book? Wait, MAGA people buying a...

I would say... No one even bought this book if you really think about it. The Vindagram is a circle. Well, first one even bought this book, if you really think about it. The Vindac Gram is a circle. Well, first of all, it's funny that he called it triggered, and he has a bunch of just horrifyingly stupid shit in there, like he calls trans women athletes mediocre men. Jesus Christ.

And he also compares his family sacrificing running their business, which they haven't done at all. And they continue to run their business and make it more profitable from their father's presidency. But in theory, they were supposed to stop running their father's business. And he compared that to the sacrifice of veterans within the pages of the book. By not making a lot of money? Yeah. Oh, wow. Think about it.

I mean, well, there's a monetary value to everything. And so if you think about these families that are losing the earning value of a son who they lost or, you know, a husband. It's like the N-word for the Trump family. That's right. One of the more questionable, surprising claims in the book that I did not see coming, his claim was that his dad is not racist, which I assumed he would say. But the best he could come up with was an anecdote from his childhood when he would let Don Jr. and Eric play video games with Michael Jackson.

Complicated. Very complicated. There's a video games with Michael Jackson. Complicated. Very complicated. There's a lot of layers to that. So many layers. So many layers. Wow. But that's where his mind went when they were like, come up with an anecdote that paints your dad in a picture

where he's not racist. And he was like, got it. I played video games that's the best I can do yeah it's wild when the selection process is made of like the black person we're supposed to go like oh okay we approve

wait a minute he golfed with OJ that's the best that's the best you can do of like who we're supposed to go like Okay well if he played with him it's fine Okay by association not racist Yeah I'm not racist

Michael Jackson So the book immediately appeared On bestseller list right when it was released But some people noticed That the RNC is giving out Signed copies of the book In exchange for donations Which they they claimed helps boost reported sales. So it wasn't even like, again, they don't even try.

They've been getting away with shit for so long. They don't even try to cover that shit up. Well, it's all glamour. Right. It's like even when you meet even in media companies where people are just focused on the chart itself, not the quality of the work, because like that's the currency for some people. It's like, well, is our thing at the top of a list versus like, is this thing actually respected by peers that in industry that people were trying to appeal to? And this is sort of that exact same logic

because they just need to be able to be like, number one, number one, number one, number one, number one. But that's what's so funny because it has the little dagger dick next to it at the death asterisk on the New York Times list, which denotes this is from bulk purchases. Right. Just letting you know that this is a bit of a fuckery, as they call it on the New York Times bestsellers list. He just got booed, too.

Yeah, it is funny that he called the book Triggered because he then scheduled a book signing and book reading at UCLA. The hotbed for libs like miles. Triggered libs. Triggered libs. Get ready. And so he- If you want to see me smoking a cigarette dipped in weed oil Knotting out in front of the library. So him and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, showed up there.

And there were protesters, but not the protesters they wanted, because it wasn't liberal protesters. There were a handful of liberal protesters who were basically respectful and didn't do that much. But there were conservative protesters who thought that it was messed up, that he wasn't opening it up for questions for them to- Right, to pwn him. To pwn him. Because these are the people who are so right of even Trumpers that they're like, y'all not racist enough.

Yes. And that's what was even more interesting about that, just sort of this process of evolution of the offshoots of shitbags on the right. So shitbags on the right started protesting and shouting. And Don Jr. started getting triggered. And he only spoke for 20 minutes. And then Kimberly got up and started shouting at the people and telling them that their mothers were probably not proud of them.

And I bet you engage and go on online dating because you're impressing no one here to get a date in person. Isn't that funny when people try and hit you with a burn from their generation and you're like, what? Yeah. I don't even know what that just meant. You probably got like three songs in your Zoom. Yo, shout out to Zoom. Making fun of people for online dating. Yeah.

Is, yeah. That just shows like, okay, what? And just like as a general online dating, like that's a whole. That's everyone. That's all of it. That's Facebook. Everyone who's dated since. Oh, I'm sorry, Kimberly.

I actually found a meaningful match on eHarmony.com. Right. We matched on 73 different dimensions of love. Yeah. It's farmers only. Which is made up by a UCLA professor, by the way. It's fake. Is that true?

Yeah. One of the dudes who's like the face of eHarmony, that gray-haired guy, I'm pretty sure he's in one of the social sciences at UCLA. And there was like a bit of debate between people in that department of like, what you're doing isn't exactly science. You're selling people a concept that, based on studies we've done, we found correlation, but to be like, the 73 dimensions, whatever that shit is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Keep it down. We're making money over here. Yeah, yeah. Anyways. Oh, Jack, actually, time to do an ad for eHarmony.com. Yeah.

The good folks. I know I met Miles on eHarmony. Trying to hire a beard? I got to check my DMs. Well, Clark, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you? Find me everywhere at the Clark Jones, T-H-E-E-C-L-A-R-K-E-N-E-S. But most importantly, and thank you to you guys. You guys are a big influence. Classic Black

Dude Podcast. Make sure that you go on there and listen to it. We got some great guests and episodes. Rate, subscribe, comment, I'll review, share. Listen to it. Classic Black Dude on anywhere that you listen to podcasts. And you're doing some performances too.

Yes. I'll be out in Virginia. I'll be in Norfolk the 20th and 21st at the Addicts Theater. Then I'll be at the Big Hunt in D.C. the 22nd and the 23rd. And I'll be at the Knitting Factory in Brooklyn on Sunday the 24th. Boom. So Zyde Gang, come on. Zyde Gang. Yeah, do it. Zyde Gang. Yeah, do it.

Here's something, Clark. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, shit. Oh, we didn't even talk about what happened in the NFL. And I know I'm not supposed to self-promote. I'm supposed to like somebody else's, but like there's... No, no, you're allowed to self-promote. Oh, look at my last one about there was a big thing

where a player hit another quarterback with his own helmet. Yeah, took his helmet off and smashed him on the head with it. Right, Miles Garrett and the quarterback, a very much smaller white dude, has so much anger in his face. And I was like, it looks like when they cast a fictional superhero as a black person. And it's just like, this is how Twitter looks. It's just this very angry, uniformed cosplay person mad at a much bigger black person for being a fictional character. I love it. I also thought he got off easy.

Because he was trying to tear Miles Garrett's helmet off. Did you see that? That's how it started. Look, Miles Garrett should be suspended for the year. For sure. But like, there's not defending. Did you see that? That's how it started. Look, Miles Garrett should be suspended for the year. For sure. But like, there's not defending. Did he connect with the helmet? Yes.

He did. It was ugly. But he took his, he tried, he used two weeks to take Miles' helmet off. Right. And he did, and he kicked him in the groin. And he took Mason's helmet off and he's standing there getting pushed back, but Mason's still like coming at him. Right, right, right.

If somebody take my shield and I run at them, they're probably going to use the shield on me. That's all I'm saying. It's not right. They both should have some damages. He got away scot-free. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey, and even

more importantly, on my new podcast with Sophia Alexandra called 420 Day Fiance. It's a 90 Day Fiance podcast mixed up with a little bit of that 420. You know what I mean? Yeah, we talk about our favorite show. It's a little bit half recap show, half game show. And that will be premiering this Wednesday, the 20th of November.

So subscribe, rate. You know, we're trying to be the number one 90 Day Fiancé podcast out there. I know it's a very specific goal, but when you're specific, it makes goals achievable. Now, some tweets I like. Actually, just one. It's from Julia Prescott, at Julia Prescott. I have one talent and one talent only, and that is finding out if you're divorced in three Instagrams or less.

That's incredible. Let's see. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Dana Donnelly tweeted, I'm allowed to text at red lights, but the person in the car behind me is not, as it is their job to honk at me when it is time to go. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Yeah. Dave Rubin tweeted, hi, AOC. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Sure. Yeah, Dave Rubin tweeted,

Hi, AOC. Not sure who you bought my email from, but I assure you I didn't sign up for your mailing list. Also, you offer no way to unsubscribe. Please release me. And then did a screen cap to email he received Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders announced green new deal for public housing act AOC responded this is the official

congressional press list not a supporter mailing list our apologies as someone must have mistaking you for a journalist that'll be fixed right away and then afterwards he was like you didn't own me basically it was the energy of his next tweet was something like and then afterwards he was like you didn't own me right

basically it was the energy of his next tweet was something like oh that's probably like the best honestly that's probably the best thing you've ever done so like

but whatever like I know I was owned but like I'm not letting you whatever can y'all settle a debate for me real quick before we go this was a long thing

I was having to back and forth on between Batman the animated series and the X-men animated series if you had to have one or the other which would you go with long term if we're going longevity batman i think you get a lot of mileage out of okay but i love the x-men i just love i like the x-men as a concept as a franchise better but i watch the fuck out of Batman the Animated Series. Absolutely. And it's tough, man. I love the theme music in X-Men.

But Danny Elfman did Batman. Yeah. No, I know. That's what I'm saying long. When I think about it, if I was watching it, there are moments where Batman the Animated Series, even as a kid, I was like, yo, this shit is actually good. This is refined.

Shit I could keep with me. Yeah, versus me, I'm like, yeah, Genosha looks fucked up. Right. I feel like Batman the Animated with me yeah versus me i'm like yeah genosha looks fucked up right i feel like batman the animated series was the first time people were like yeah this is no this is actually like art right yeah this is not just like a cartoon that uh everybody's watching um you're saying that with like a pipe so yeah batman and batman yeah batman if we're just going a direct comparison of the series side by side, I will say that. Yeah. Okay.

I will say Batman. But I think, isn't X-Men on the new Disney Plus? It is on the Disney Plus. So I'll come back. And then I think Batman is coming out on HBO Max or something. So I'll be able to come back with a fully realized take. People are really feeling Disney Plus. Miles is feeling Disney Plus.

I'm not joking. I watch The Mandalorian. I'm fucking with it. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not mad I watch The Mandalorian I'm fucking with it I like it I'm not mad at The Mandalorian I don't know if this is

A viral marketing campaign But both Miles And DJ Daniel Are coming in Just talking about Disney Plus Like just speaking Straight up

Super producer Anna Hosni She co-signed Damn But Netflix is getting Nickelodeon So like You can't do that

On television Everybody's fucking Yeah So you can't do that On television? Everybody's fucking... So you can't do that on television is kind of on par with everything Disney's offering. Also, the Imagineering documentary that's on Disney+.

That's the thing that jumped out at me. Roy Disney is a complicated figure. But to see his... I didn't realize how... I'm sure all the Disney heads know that it was a real gamble to even build Disneyland, the way he did it and the amount of money that was spent on it. And to know that clearly just completely changed the course of history

is very interesting. And then all the people whose hands were on it and the imagination. Another conversation that I want to start real quick as we end the episode. This is why people have to stick around. Kiefer, I hardly know her, tweeted, what was the weirdest movie you were ever shown in class? I'm talking about movies that had basically nothing to do with the curriculum.

For me, it was when my middle school health teacher didn't want to teach us about sex, so we watched A New Hope instead. And Jenny tweeted, my AP stats teacher made us watch Cool Hand Luke. Did you guys have any that just had no educational value? Yo, I was a sub at a high school in Chicago, and I taught computer literacy, and I just showed them City of God.

Oh, shit. The Brazilian movie? Yeah. Well, that's a great film. Yeah, and they was dealing with a lot of that shit. I'm like, y'all about to get some real shit right now now yeah yeah man damn little dice is fucking gangster yeah i don't know what it compared how it relates to computer literacy but well some of the computers didn't work but you know right you will now be literate and talking to white film nerds yeah there's a city

of god oh i love it when i went to cath high school for a year, there was a old priest who part of his curriculum every semester was to show Braveheart. Oh, okay. But it wasn't a history class. Yeah. It had nothing to... I think it was math, to be honest. I had a teacher show us A Man for All Seasons from 1966.

Yeah. Is that Jimmy Stewart? I think it's John Wayne, isn't it? It's Robert Shaw and Paul Schofield. It's about a British statesman who refuses to pressure the Pope into annulling the marriage of King Henry VII. Oh, yeah. I watched that.

That's on Disney+. For what? For history. This was not in history. Oh. This was some watched that. That's on Disney+. For what? For history. This was not in history. Oh. This was some class that was like half. Yo, this teacher, Mr. Falls, he was so old. I used to fucking.

Was this Catholic school, though? People smoked weed. Yes, people smoked weed in the classroom, and he didn't know. Huh. Fucking not vaping. In the classroom. Not vaping y'all little cowards. He thought it was those factories.

Not vaping cowards hitting straight flour in a fucking snow jacket in the back of the room. That marijuana factory set off again yeah no and like we could you i would literally stand up take shit off his desk because he was so like out of it and people go yo he took the whole key for the test and i'm like i got the answers right um also shout out to my other teacher who was like a morality teacher one day she just didn't want to do anything and i knew her vibe she was kind of lazy and i had the screener for uh lord of the rings uh the first one and i was like i got the i got the new lord of the rings movie we could put that on and she goes oh yeah i want to see that

put that shit on we watched that shit for like three classes that is that sounds good yeah shout out to her miss rouse she used to let me use her motorized chair. I'm sure she's going to appreciate that. And I used to fucking smash that shit up in the room. Thank you so much. All right. She's a legend. She was really kind. And she knew it was fun for me. Yeah.

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You know, for all the old heads out there, DJ Shadow has a new album out called Our Pathetic Age, and in it, there's some really great collabs features on there this one specifically is called kings and queens and it features run the jewels so it's dj shadow and run the jewels called kings and queens why how old is this sorry who dj chef i mean when you think about like how like introducing came out i think in 1993 damn and i'm like out here trying to give you... That's an emo band, Herpethetic Age. Or no, 96 is when Introducing came out.

That was really when your kids who had older brothers who smoked weed and were in college around that time. Oh, yeah. You were DJ Shadow. DJ Shadow was dope. Yeah. I love him. All right, guys. Well, we're going to ride out on that.

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