The Daily Zeitgeist - UFOs Undeniable Now? Giuliani NEEDS HELP! 5.18.21

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

In episode 911, Jack and Miles are joined by The Nikki Glaser Podcast's Nikki Glaser to discuss Trump blowing off Giuliani, Bill Gates questionable behavior, Navy pilots discussing UFO encounters, and... more!FOOTNOTES: Trump Has Blown Off Rudy Giulianiā€™s Pleas for Help as Feds Circle Long Before Divorce, Bill Gates Had Reputation for Questionable Behavior WATCH: Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs LISTEN: River Tiber - Hypnotized Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Jack O'Brien, so old. Chuggy, chuggy, chuggy, chuggy, so old. That is courtesy of Official Dickhead. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I took her out. It was a zeitgeist live. I watched the news to get the feeling right. We started talking loud, and she explained her stance. But then I turned off the DZ, and that's about the time she walked away from me.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Nobody likes when you're off trending, and you're still amused by TV shows. What the hell is absentee? My friend said I should up my wage. What's the newest trend again? What's my wage again? I said, what's my wage again? Fuck it. We just blew through that one.
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Starting point is 00:03:34 Unworthy. By the brilliant, the talented, the legendary, the new Daily Podcast host, Nikki Glaser! Hi, you guys! So good to be here on another daily podcast. You guys inspired me to start my own. The Nikki Glaser podcast. And I'm, oh man, I'm, yeah, doing a daily podcast. And then also I've been doing a ton of other podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Like I'm podcasting like three or four times a day. It's all I do. And I love it it's the best but yeah i'm having so much fun with mine and um as we were just talking off air of like it's just so nice to have a job you don't dread or like yeah and and there's so many jobs i do that are just you know it's obviously what i chose to do but i don't think there's a single time i go on stage and i go oh i don't even know what i'm gonna say i don't want to do this and then i i grab the mic and i have fun the second i grab the mic and i get on stage i have fun but constant dread up until that moment but i don't dread my own podcast at all in fact i
Starting point is 00:04:35 like i do it four days a week monday through thursday the nikki glazer podcast i heart radio uh by big money players um but on i get sad sad Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It's like too much of a break. I miss it. And that's not just me saying that to be like, I really do. I just feel like it's, yeah. Do you guys ever feel that way or do you need a break? I mean, we all need breaks.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. I definitely need a break by the end of the week. For sure. I enjoy my weekends. I think it was once we started doing a second episode every day, I was just like, I need... Wait.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes. Yes. We do like a 15-minute trending episode. Right. It's a lot. But I don't know because Jack and I,
Starting point is 00:05:17 we saw each other physically for the first time over the weekend because we were doing a lesser award show than the one you were doing or maybe higher depending on where you're at.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I mean, let's be honest. I think they're same level. Same level. Really boil it down. Yeah. But like, it was one of those moments
Starting point is 00:05:32 where we're like, hey! It felt like a fucking, like a reunion scene at the end of a Fast and Furious movie or some shit. Because you guys don't
Starting point is 00:05:40 see each other in person all, like, ever. You don't have to. No, this is the first time in over a year.
Starting point is 00:05:45 What? Yeah. Oh, my God. We were very vaccine observant. I wasn't surprised how the solid hug Jack gave me. Oh, really? Shit, my man came in for this. Came from deep within.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Podcasting is hard, though, because, I mean, it's like a great job, and I'm not complaining, but it is, you can't be on your phone. You can't be doing other things. It is, you have to be focused. You have to be present. You have to be listening. You have to be, it's, it's different than any other job. I mean, I feel like most people work nine to fives and maybe get the same amount of presence and like focus that we have in an hour of podcasting. Cause I get off my phone i'm like oh that's the longest i've been away from my phone ever is what i podcast yeah it's like the it's the it's the way it used to be when you would go on a plane and they wouldn't have wi-fi now now you have no excuse to never be tethered to your phone but uh podcasting is the only excuse
Starting point is 00:06:39 i have now and sleeping but even sleeping it's like, wake up, bitch. Answer my text. I'm blowing you up. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Is everything okay? Yeah. I've just been asleep for four hours. What the fuck do you mean? Well, the only reason I... If people want to get a hold of me when I'm sleeping, I say call me because I always have my phone on silent, but I always have white noise going. I think it was one of my underrateds last time I came on here as like a sleep mask and white noise to sleep. So I wake up when someone calls because the white noise will
Starting point is 00:07:09 just, it'll go to silence. So I get woken up by silence of the call. So that's the only way I wake up when I sleep. When people are like, I didn't want to wake you up by texting you. And I'm like, who the hell is leaving their text alerts on when they're sleeping? That's a person you need to wake up. People who don't get very many
Starting point is 00:07:28 text messages like myself. Oh, you don't get many texts? And you just rub in your mitts. You're like, ooh. Whoa! I wake everybody in my household up. I'm like, guys, I got a text! Daddy's got a text! Kids, get in here. Do you notice, though, that more people are using the voice memo option instead of texting? I have a couple people in my life who have been doing that, yeah. Because they disappear, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I would say drug dealers were very early adopters of the voice message. Because you could get real graphic and say things that you wouldn't want in text form that you could do in the voice. Yes, like graphic're a deal. Yes, like graphic about your drugs. Yeah. These drugs are so good, bro. It's like, oh, you want 3.5 grams? Yes. It's so much better than being like,
Starting point is 00:08:17 can I get some sweaters from you or whatever? In high school, we used to say we were knitting sweaters. And it's just like why I thought my parents wouldn't catch on to the fact that I've never had an interest in arts and crafts at all. And that we would go knit sweaters in the car and drive around my subdivision for 15 minutes and come back with bloodshot eyes and no yarn or needles or sweater. It's just so dumb. But now I do feel like the voice memo thing, I noticed it
Starting point is 00:08:46 with like more famous people that I may be talking to as the same as drug dealers, like don't want as much of a record of a text screenshot. Oh, yeah. They said the voice memo.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But I like it so much more. See, that's the difference between you and I. You got famous friends. I know drug dealers. I mean, barely. Well, yeah, I need more drug dealers
Starting point is 00:09:04 in my life, to be honest with you. I'm tired of asking my dad if I could have some of his weed. Now they're all on Signal. Oh, yeah, Signal. That's the one. And you get an alert when a friend joins Signal. If you're on Signal, you get alerts when your friends join it. You go, oh, someone just got a new drug dealer.
Starting point is 00:09:20 That's what I always say. Yeah, it's like because you're not a journalist or activist or someone who needs cryptic. You're into psilocybin now. Yeah, right. Yeah, you're trying a new therapy. I just got an alert that the city of Dayton, Ohio joined Signal. I was like, okay. First of all, I didn't know they were one of my contacts.
Starting point is 00:09:39 That's so weird. I mean, Dayton, Ohio has had a drug dealer for a long time. Yeah. I don't think that's what's going on there. Right. They're just catching up to the technology. Maybe they're having an affair with Cleveland. That could be it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah, cheating on Cincinnati with Cleveland. It's just like an administrator for the city is doing it for shady stuff, not realizing it's sending out alerts like, the city of Dayton has joined Signal. Damn, i'm starting to wonder if my my little sister's been using voice memos like since they began i'm wondering if maybe she's a drug dealer it's she might be young like how old is she she's only two years younger than me but okay but like the younger kids use the voice
Starting point is 00:10:20 memos too you know like i feel like that's a it's like texting is like old but i do a lot of the dictating of like saying period exclamation mark i just started my period exclamation mark but that's that's a weird one because sometimes i will be used leaving the voice memo and i say exclamation and i'm talking like a robot exclamation mark and i'm like oh wait no i'm sending this as a yeah right my uh siri has i'm unimpressed with siri as of yet uh siri's ability to like just randomly drops in as like i'm sorry i don't know about that i was i'm like what the fuck i've never i've never like gotten that when it was intended anyways Anyways, I'm an old man. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Let's talk about... I don't think Siri has ever brought me anything but consternation in my life. Yes. Like, I need to shut it off. That little start thing, the little magic ball starts going. You're like, no!
Starting point is 00:11:18 Get at it. I hate that on these iPhones... How many screenshots do you have of your home screen on your iPhone from trying to turn up or down the music and you have to get a grip on it so you have to press the other button I have so many screenshots of my home screen
Starting point is 00:11:36 it's so annoying I feel like are the new phones did they fix that? Are the new models? They had to have. I mean that isn't a thing that happens to all of us I think if to have. I mean, that isn't a thing that happens to all of us. I think if anything, you just have to change
Starting point is 00:11:47 like how you take a screenshot to avoid that. Oh, okay, thank you. It got harder to take a screenshot with this latest
Starting point is 00:11:56 update of the phone. So, I had to like, yeah, I was, I'm on, I just got the 12, but I jumped from like
Starting point is 00:12:04 one with a button. So, I'm way the fuck behind. To now using my face. The first day, I couldn't take a screenshot. Now, I can't not take them. And that's the thing. You learned. Sometimes it's like we get so mad at a design change, and then we get used to it with it. Give it a day before you start tweeting about how it's now
Starting point is 00:12:25 ruined we they know us so well they're only optimizing everything for us to be on this thing longer and make it they're all they know they know us better than we know ourselves so give it time and it will be intuitive within hours i have to stop being mean to siri like when she interrupts i have to stop being like oh siri Like when she interrupts, I have to stop being like, Oh Siri, shut up. Because my parents, my kids are learning it now. They're like being mean to Alexa now.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm like, Oh shit. They're like, can it motherfucker. It is so fun to yell at her. I know. And get your aggression out and just be like, you dumb bitch.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I don't care about the weather. I like, I get really mad. It's's probably projection it's not good uh i should change it to a man's voice to make it feel less uh you know alex shut the fuck up yeah oh alex oh i already hate that version alexi i guess alex might be too common i don't know yeah well whatever uh we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment nikki first we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment nicky first we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about uh we're gonna talk about uh rudy is appealing to the big homie for some help so we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:13:35 his pleas for help we'll talk about bill gates stories coming out uh it's gone from a trickle to a flood the gates are open uh We'll talk about New York City Pride parade and how they are going to not be using the police. And of course, people know that I was on alert the second that 60 Minutes UFO story hit. So I got to just do a deep dive, just a recounting of that story. I'm just going to play the story for you.
Starting point is 00:14:06 All of that, plenty more. But first, Nikki, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, this morning I was doing a mic test and I never know what to say for that. And I wanted something funny to say, and I'm trying to memorize a line that I can always say and I remembered watching an old episode of Veep in which Sam Richardson the guy who plays uh Richard Splett yeah yes he was doing a mic test I remember he said something funny so I looked up Veep mic test Richard and uh he goes bring back my pig I just think that's the best. It's better than testing.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So I looked that up. And I recalled, I love Veep so much. It's my favorite show of all time. It's just, if you don't like Veep, it would be more of a deal breaker based on, I don't think I want kids. And I think someone who wanted kids, I would probably be like, we're not going to work out. But it would be more of a deal breaker based on like, I don't think I want kids. And I think someone who wanted kids, I would probably be like,
Starting point is 00:15:06 we're not going to work out, but it would be more likely to not work out. If someone was like, I don't like Veep. Like it's literally on my dating profiles. The ones that I've made in the past is like, you must like Veep because it's just says so much. I need someone who likes,
Starting point is 00:15:21 it's just, yeah, that's the biggest litmus test for me. Do you guys like i don't know they're so mean i i can't well she did get really mean towards the last two seasons where it was like no one's this mean but the jokes are still there the like it's just it's the best show and i like politics it was such a good depiction of like a celebrity in decline who's like, you know, just bitter about that and so rude to everybody around them. I feel like that sort of toxic narcissism like that, that's real.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's for sure real in America. Yeah, I think so, too. And I like that the show didn't give you what you wanted. The characters are just terrible. Like, it's just it's just so good it was like the last episode of Seinfeld stretched over the course of like multiple seasons where it's like wait these are bad people
Starting point is 00:16:12 you didn't realize these are awful fucking people you wanted us to like no one on that show is likable except Richard Splatt I mean he's the only one and even you grow to resent him at times because you're like you're annoying and you I find myself I can't watch Veep too much because I start acting like her and being really, especially with my podcast co-host, Andrew, who's like my best friend. And he's more
Starting point is 00:16:34 like, he's like a Tony. He's like a, uh, a Mike McClintock, uh, who is her press secretary. And then also, um, her bag man, uh bag man Gary he's like a mixture of those two with me and I can if we watch too much Veep we fall into those characters and I can be so cruel and so mean but I will say that if I watch Veep sometimes I'm a lot funnier I like to watch it before
Starting point is 00:16:58 I have to be really really on and really sharp and it kind of it gets me in that mindset of thinking that fast and trying to be that funny. So it's, yeah, I love it. That's funny. You and Andrew do have sort of a Veep vibe. Yes, we really do. Where it's like you're being mean to him, but you're commenting on the fact that you're being mean to him as you're being mean to him. So it's okay.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah. Just like, why would you say that that i don't care about that like i'll just it's very blunt like i'm not uh yeah i i find myself being like selena meyer and i always flatter myself because i'm like oh my god i'm like julie louis-dreyfus it's like no you're like a narcissistic sociopathic character she plays that's not a good thing but i do that all the time i really if i watch something too much i start sounding like the person i'm really uh i'm good at mimicking and i'm good at like impressions but it's almost like i the best impressions i do are people i want to be so badly that i find a way i mean even in middle school like the girls that were popular this one girl like talks like this like it wasn't like a good voice and she would like talk from the side of her mouth but she was like,
Starting point is 00:18:05 that was probably like the least attractive thing about her but that was the thing I chose to mimic. Like, that was the most attractive thing. There was another girl with like a lazy eye
Starting point is 00:18:12 and I used to kind of just like have like a kind, I used to make my eye kind of lazy so that I would be more like her and it's like, I've always done that. Chameleon.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And yeah, and like comedians too. Like, I can't watch my favorite comics, female comics, especially because I'll get, I'll start sounding like them. And sometimes male comics too, but people aren't as quick to go.
Starting point is 00:18:34 You're just ripping off that person. I'm not intentionally doing it. It just, I like them so much. I absorb, I sound like all my friends, like people I like, I start,
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'd be like Brad Pitt. Whenever he gets in a relationship, he starts dressing like the person looks like them. That's me. I don't know. I'm the same way too. But early on, it was mostly like media that was doing that to me as a kid, like where I love New York rap and the Sopranos to the point where I would meet people and they thought I was from the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah. I was just ingesting so much New york new jersey like content and i'm like like just shit i would say mannerisms like people in la like oh you're from new york right and i'm like no they're like oh shit like your vibe i'm like nah tv kind of fucked my brain up i'm learning to just become myself again yeah those were our friends hanging out like that was if you watch enough of something you hang out with them more than the people, more than the people who are supposed to be the nurturing thing that's shaping you. Yeah, I was definitely nurtured by TV as well.
Starting point is 00:19:32 There's like a tweet a while back we called out that was someone was like, you know, like at a certain age, you literally just mimic something, a character you saw in a movie. And that's your whole personality for like seven years. And it's like some of us have, I think we hold on to that habit or not. It's like not a habit, seven years and it's like yes some of us have i think we we hold on to that habit or not it's like not a habit but i think it's just in general it's like just mimicry that we can't get because we like them and we all want to be liked so we go oh if i like them then if i act like them i might be liked i think it's maybe something like that it's uh it's i can't help it when people go you sound like because when i started out it sounded
Starting point is 00:20:02 like sarah silverman there was a while it sounded like amy schumer and it's like i admit yeah i do because i like them so much i want to be them and i wasn't doing their jokes but i would do right right right there's certain things that i would be like and there's even things i do now in my stand-up that people go that's such an original thing and i go no my ex-boyfriend used to talk like that and go oh like this like that's a delivery thing i do now but i stole from an ex-boyfriend i was like that's a hilarious way to go and and it's like but it's all that's what being a comedian is is not so much like coming up with your own unique thing but being able to tell what's funny and synthesizing it into like coming through yeah like we're all influenced by everyone
Starting point is 00:20:42 that's all art you know and i think that's what's like the idea of like originality is like hard to, you know, get to the origins of because we're all inspired by so many things simultaneously that they're informing like what the end product is. Yeah, well, maybe some people might be like overtly like heavy handed with it. And you're like, OK, now you're just doing an impression. Yeah, I think a lot of things when they look at, you know, how like a lot of artists a lot of artists think too they're more like no i look at other art to inspire my art like it's not that i'm i'm trying to sit in a dark room and then just have like a fucking vision yes like no i'm expressing myself via me processing all these other experiences i have and things i interact i feel that way about like but like where does someone as young as billy eilish learn to be like sing like this?
Starting point is 00:21:26 She doesn't talk like that. How do you become so unique when you're that young and come up? Olivia Rodrigo, I watched her SNL performance, and I was like, how does this young girl have so... I mean, I'm sure she's maybe ripping someone off here. She has to. But it just is so unique. I'm like, where are they coming up with this? So young.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. I mean, I feel like all the sayings that I wanted to believe from writers. I really liked her like artists. I really liked growing up were apocryphal, like the right drunk edit sober thing from Hemingway is not true. He never said that, but I wanted to believe that when I liked to drink. But then the ones that are true are all about how they steal all your good ideas. Like T.S. Eliot talked about great poets steal. That's just how art is made.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And it's a lot about, I don't know. The Simpsons did it. Yeah like people simpsons did it yeah the simpsons did it yeah like any joke you make you're like the simpsons did it in some way i have to make this joke in my own way and there are times like when i was writing preparing the monologue for the mtv movie and tv awards unscripted that uh aired Aired last night. I was doing this one joke that just felt like I came up with it, but I'm like, wherever? I've heard this line before. That wasn't an original thought. I don't know where I heard it from, but it ain't me.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And no one said anything. All my writers were like, yeah, it was getting laughs. And then I just wrote to them being like, have you heard this before? And they're like, yes. And they were all like, we don't know where either, but that's kind of hack. And I was like, I knew it. But sometimes it happens where it comes into your head like an original idea. But there's just this thing of because you don't know where any of your ideas come from. Thoughts just show up and you think them. You don't come up with what I'm going to think. I'm not like, I'm going to choose to think
Starting point is 00:23:23 this. And you don't know whether that's a truly original thing or something you heard. And a lot of... There have been times I've been on stage and performed a joke in front of the person that wrote the joke. And I get off stage. I remember Ali Wong was like, Hey, I think... I love that joke. I have the same line. And I go, Oh my God, I got it from you. Because that joke came to me in a way that was like is this you and I couldn't place who it came from I asked my friends couldn't find out and then Allie I was like it's it's you it's yours and now it's mine because I did it before on this show no it's just like I was accidentally stealing sometimes I would never intentionally do that
Starting point is 00:24:02 but I am definitely capable of... I would have loved that story if it ended with you choking her out and being like, That's my anal joke. There's only so many. There could only be one. There could only be me. There could only be one.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Nikki, what's something you think is overrated? The outdoors. I am over camping and hiking and like especially when I'm trying to like date and going on dating apps and stuff like this like I I'm not ever going to
Starting point is 00:24:36 present I'm not gonna ever convince like try to make a guy think that I enjoy camping or hiking when I don't when the old Nikki maybe used to do that and be like I'll be a guy think that I enjoy camping or hiking when I don't. When the old Nikki maybe used to do that and be like, oh, I'll be a little adventurous. And it's just a lie. Like I will enjoy those things if they're like once in a while,
Starting point is 00:24:54 but I'm not someone who can go camping with you. Like I can be with someone who camps a lot or likes outdoors, but you just got to understand I'm not going to be a part of those things that often. And that's hard for me to admit because guys love the outdoors people love being outside i do too but i want to like eat outside and i want to sit with my friends outside i don't want to like i don't need to see a beautiful view i mean it's nice sometimes but i'll look out the window when i'm taking off in a plane like that's's a beautiful view. And I'm like in a climate controlled environment. So,
Starting point is 00:25:27 um, I don't hate the outdoors. I love animals, but I don't, I don't like hiking and I don't like long meandering. Like I, camping doesn't have enough schedule to it. It's just,
Starting point is 00:25:39 it's like, we're just going to fucking float and like, or just see where we end up. I need a schedule. It's too open. Anytime someone's someone's uh inner tubing down a river it stresses me out because i'm like how the fuck are you gonna get back to the place i need to know how i'm gonna get back well i mean if you're smart you got somebody who drives you upstream so you end up at your destination in the yeah right you don't just recklessly take off from your campsite.
Starting point is 00:26:05 A lot of these people who are floating down with a third inner tube with a 30 rack of a keystone in it, I feel like didn't go through that step. That's the kind of camping I could get involved in if it was lazy camping. But actually having to paddle and set up a tent and cook your own food, I don't understand why people like to do that. I do understand because different strokes are different. For you personally, yeah. It's like, I don't understand why people like to do that. I mean, I do understand because different strokes are different. But for you personally, yeah, that's not you.
Starting point is 00:26:29 But it's not me and I can't, and I really always wanted to be that kind of girl that would be like adventurous and I thought that's what people wanted from me and now I'm just kind of really realizing it's not me and that's okay. So we had a similar one recently and I always like to point that out. Not because not to make you feel bad,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but because I think that is like when the show is doing its job and like getting at the zeitgeist, which I think a lot of people right now, like that is part of the collective consciousness of like, you know what? We just spent a year indoors and like, we're good like that was that was just fine i liked it i will say that i i was in um the cayman islands
Starting point is 00:27:11 filming a show for two and a half months and up until just recently and i went there we had to quarantine for two weeks to then be free and then the cayman islands has no covet so it was like no masks no even like oh should we still wear like just it's back to normal no case So it was like, no masks, no even like, oh, should we still wear like just it's back to normal. No cases. It was amazing. And I was freaked out. I was like, I don't want to go back to socializing. I don't want to go back to having to do things again. And I was having a lot of anxiety
Starting point is 00:27:36 about being social again. But it took like one like, oh, I don't want to go, but I will. And then I was just right back at you go right back into the way you were before and it really is fucking great to socialize again and be out there it's just so if anyone out there is having fear of the world opening up again i feel you and i'm someone who people probably look at as like she's so social why would she be scared i was terrified
Starting point is 00:28:00 of like having to make friends and meet up and like put on pants and makeup and just, just be out. And not because I'm scared of COVID. I'm scared of just not being home. And I just want to be in bed and stuff, but you'll get back into it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's okay. You'll catch up. Yeah. I felt like even when Jack and I, we, when we were kicking it, I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:28:21 we were having just so much fun bullshitting for like fucking 30 straight minutes like waiting between like having to go like back on stage or whatever yeah i was like fuck man like you forget how much energy is exchanged in person just being in the same room like we were just putting on fucking masks and be like yo jack what about this and you realize how simple things are but yeah but also along with that i definitely had a level of like you know it's the first time i was going to be in front of a group of people granted like the crew's vaccinated and like the people in the studio are and everyone's covid tested so like from a safety standpoint it's pretty secure but it was more like that i'm having to switch gears to like that's right like
Starting point is 00:29:05 i need to put on an outfit yeah and i need to show out and then i need to perform for people like yep and we've just gotten used to communicating on zoom like i feel like i've just gotten comfortable enough where i like don't get nervous when i'm in the waiting room and i'm like it could go live and then you know when i press leave meeting i know to keep it going until I can press the other leave meeting. I don't just go leave meeting and then go like this. And then have my face drop as I'm searching for the next one. You know, there's those. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's a great observation. Like the difference from like your face where you're smiling and then you hit the one and then your face just completely drops. But then you've got to hit a second one to confirm. And your face is just like, oh, no look for it it's so embarrassing yes so it's yeah i i i really it was nice to know that my fears were not really real and that i so quickly i've made a joke about it but people go what's it gonna be like when it really opens up and we're back to normal everything's fine which looks like it's like never gonna happen but like when i was in
Starting point is 00:30:07 the cayman islands it was like one day i'm in quarantine i can't there's caution tape on my front door like it's very strict there because that's why they have no covet and so as soon as we got out we went to the grocery store without masks for the first time and you know over a year and me and andrew my co-host on the nikki laser podcast daily monday through thursdays was like oh my god we're going this we were like filming like first supermarket no covet and right right yeah it and you go when is it gonna feel like normal again aisle five like we were over it by literally past produce we were just like okay it's back to normal just getting samples of little smokies from a woman with a hot plate feeding it to each other yeah it's interesting i wonder if culturally that's gonna be the same thing because that that was one of the like in looking back at the 1918 pandemic like that was
Starting point is 00:30:57 something that historians said like there's just like it left no print on like culture on anything like they there was a great plague novel written but it was like 25 years later or something it's it's not a thing that like whereas wars like always make such an impact the pandemic they're just like yeah i don't know man guess that happened to somebody else that's fascinating you say that because it feels that way even thinking about that plague like i didn't hear about that until this was happening and it was like a very very similar situation so i do feel like we will go back to normal uh very quick it's it's it's faster than you think and you really do forget about it and that's why i stayed after we
Starting point is 00:31:37 wrapped the show that i was there to shoot i stayed in the cayman islands as long as i could till i had to come back here because i just i came back as like an anti-masker. Like I was just like, fuck that. Like I, I left being like, I used to want to like really hurt people that would just lazily have their masks on, just kind of like defying everyone at the gate, at the airport gate and like have to be told. And then I came back and I was just like, I was, I was almost one of them. I mean, I'm good about it and I'm fully vaccinated, but it's it's it's funny how quickly you change your attitude shift. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to find out something you think is underrated. We will be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:32:32 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:33:16 This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
Starting point is 00:34:22 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:34:37 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
Starting point is 00:34:54 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share.
Starting point is 00:35:22 We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring. Daniel Thrasher.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Peppermint. Morgan Jay. and more. You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:59 Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Nikki, we like to ask our guests what's something you think is underrated. Apologizing.izing okay people can't apologize it's really some people just cannot do it and it feels so good to actually know that you were in the wrong when it was going on and to tell someone what you did wrong and not and not add a butt to it it's not an apology if you, but I was really tired and you were really annoying me. So like apologizing without a but feels so good to be like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm not even going to talk about what you did wrong, only what I did wrong. And I'm sorry I did that and really feel sorry. It's like such a load off. Like it feels great and it's hard to do. But I think if people start doing it more and trying to do it, you'll people start doing it more and trying to do it you'll feel you'll feel really accomplished if you're able to really get to a place of doing
Starting point is 00:37:08 that without adding a caveat of like yeah i'm sorry you did that but like just keep the butts out and i i just i wish more people just tried to apologize or really get to a place where because no matter if you're like nothing about it was my fault it was all her there's always something that you can find that you did to make the situation worse so like apologize for that yeah man apologizing is uh it's because it's interesting like you're saying right like these there's moments right where you fuck up and there's a fork now on the road which is either you can cop to it and say i fucked up or you do the thing and you follow your ego down denial down to denialville and then you can bury that shit inside you and that's a burden you're going to carry even if it doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:50 feel like it it is a burden you will carry because you you got to the fork and you chose to go the other way and the fact that you were at the fork two weeks later or whatever the fuck yeah exactly and I think that's do yourself the favor of just not burdening yourself and having that on you because it is it will weigh on you on some level. Like, and the more you do shit like that, and you keep taking the fork away from the apology, shit's gonna get darker and heavier. And it might not feel like that now. But over time, I've definitely felt like shit, man, like, I old, like, I need to write this or like, I need to talk about something really quick. And you could do it at any time. And the thing is, there are people out there that are like maybe thinking about an argument in their head where they're like, I actually did nothing wrong in that. And it's like, if you think that, if you think that there's a situation
Starting point is 00:38:34 where you did nothing wrong, you're wrong, honestly. There's never, that's never been the case. There's always two to tango. I've never been wrong ever in my life, so I don't know what you're talking about. But you know, and this isn't to say if like you were like trying to think of it, like not that,
Starting point is 00:38:51 I mean, there are certain circumstances I could think of that people would be very upset for me to be like, you, what was your part to play? What were you wearing? Kind of things. And it's not that it's like you can apologize even in that kind of
Starting point is 00:39:03 circumstance to yourself for making it feel like it was maybe your fault. Or like you can always find a way to right wrongs. And it feels so good. I used to think it would feel so bad to admit. This is one of the things me and my podcast co-hosts who live together, we're roommates, best friends, and have the Selena, Meyer, and Gary dynamic. I can be very mean to him. And sometimes as I'm being mean and being totally out of line,
Starting point is 00:39:29 and I know I'm wrong, there's no way I'm going to apologize in that moment. But we have a safe word for when the argument is... It's tense. It's only going to get worse. Neither of us are going to apologize, even though we probably know that this will be... It will definitely be resolved. But we just say rooster. It's like our to get worse. Neither of us are going to apologize, even though we probably know that this will be it will definitely be resolved.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But we just say rooster. It's like our safe word for fights when it's like there's a tension in the air. It can escalate. And let's just leave it at this. And I'll apologize later because I can't do it now. Because you really have to let it marinate and sit on it and be like, OK, tail between your legs. Come back to it. Like, okay, that was really wrong of me, but you can't always get in the moment. I'm not someone who can
Starting point is 00:40:10 apologize in the moment. And I shouldn't because that would be insincere. Well, yeah, that's straight, you know, couples therapy tactics, you know, like you can never solve it. Like you do need to take a second, go to your corners, tape, come back down, get your adrenaline down and kind of like, yeah, I don't want it. That wasn't a way we should handle shit and coming back to it. But yeah, that's it's, you know, look at you healthily communicate. And that you said that was your co-host from the Nikki Glaser podcast Mondays through Thursdays.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah, that was the one Andrew Collin Mondays through Thursdays, Nikki Glaser podcast. Yeah, just a fun daily show to laugh and just feel better about yourself. It's a fun daily show to laugh and just feel better about yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yes, it's all communication and being honest and not just giving people what they want. I don't apologize. There's something I did that was not good, morally reprehensible probably to many people.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And I'm not ready to apologize for it yet. And I know I need to. And the person probably is expecting one. But I'm not going to until I actually feel sorry because it would be insincere and I'm still angry and still having like my ego of like, I was entitled to that. So I go, you know what? I'm going to owe you an apology, but I don't have it for you yet. And I know that it's coming, but I'm not going to just give it to you because it's the right thing to do and I know that it's coming.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I want to actually feel it. So it's being honest with your feelings too. Yeah. All right. Let's get into what's next. And I felt like I deserved to murder that puppy. I'm just kidding. No, it wasn't that.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, no, no. We all know what you're talking about. We follow you on Instagram. Yeah, we saw those pictures of you and my chick. It was just like getting too much attention. I know. It was like all wanting to be the center of attention i'm excited to be uh the subject of a documentary don't fuck
Starting point is 00:41:50 with puppies so they're after me all right let's talk about rudy real quick not fun to think about except in this context when he's squirming um ever since the feds raided his place back in april uh he's been very concerned that donald is not backing him up because yeah he has never donald has never backed anyone he always tears the entire thing down he lets them do the work of building up the infrastructure of a friendship and then just lets it just fucking crumble and looks the other way yeah i don't know i don't know if rudy was like you know i know he never has anyone's back but he'll have mine like as he navigated on this he's like i'm gonna do shit i will completely debase myself as a human being and purported lawyer even because I know he will have my back in the
Starting point is 00:42:46 end. But it doesn't seem like that because all these investigations around specifically right now with what he was doing during the Ukraine whole scandal and impeachment, remember that 900 years ago? So right now it seems like he is really worried about these investigations and asking through all kinds of intermediaries for help. And some of the first things is like, first, can I get a statement from Trump? Maybe. Will he give me a statement? He's like asking for a strong verbal or written statement saying that his work during that sort of whole Trump Ukraine saga was at the direction of the president. So that way he can still say, like, no, I wasn't fucking wilding out doing some foreign lobbying shit.
Starting point is 00:43:27 That was under, that was the president's direction. The commander in chief, please, what could I do? So that's one of his arguments for innocence that he needs upheld. The other is he's trying to have the president sign some like legal motion that would have the feds have to like throw out any of the communications
Starting point is 00:43:42 that they got under attorney client privilege. But none of this does not seem like it's going to happen no so he's made it clear that he's waiting for a statement from trump i mean at this point yes he's he's sort of saying i think we're at that phase where they don't i think he's not even quite sure what the case is going to be that's brought against him and i think that's when we'll see if it starts being the kind of stuff where he's like well you know because i would hate to you know violate the trust of you know the former president you know it's not getting quite there right now we're at the the hands out phase and right now it seems like they're getting batted away which i think turns into the knives out phase this is all sourced on like people being like people saying
Starting point is 00:44:23 that this is happening behind the scenes it's not rudy coming to the press and being like sure would be nice if uh donald would say something right like you know they're all going to his like everyone in orbit of trump and asking like please man like and the thing that in this reporting shows i think even when trump was in the white house his the people in around trump and his advisors were like get rud Rudy Giuliani fucking away from you, dude. This guy cannot do anything right, and he only creates more of a mess on anything he touches. It's not good for you. Even though you like that he will literally just take your orders and not question them, that's also part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And because of that, many of them are saying like dude stay the fuck away from because you don't know what they have on you or him and to start hedging your bets and making statements and stuff could fuck you up but so you think he's just ghosting him yeah it definitely looks like that and i think the advice you know the money would be on his advisor being like dude fucking change your number like get away from this dude it ain't gonna be a good look it is interesting that the people still you think these guys do do they really think it's not gonna be he's not gonna do that to me the thing he does to everyone else they really convince themselves of that it's gonna be different this time it's like when you go to the strip club and you're like no i think she liked me i know it's different it's me though
Starting point is 00:45:42 they don't know it's me i'm different even though the centuries of wisdom has shown this is an impossible feat yeah i think i am the one i am neo it proves once again that the thing that is remarkable about a lot of these people is not their intelligence or shrewdness it's their desire for fame. And so he had more of a desire for fame than anyone. That's how he got famous in the first place. And then when he had the opportunity to become famous again and jump on Trump's coattails, he didn't give a fuck that it would eventually lead to his complete undoing. And he kept behaving in that way until uh until he's totally
Starting point is 00:46:26 fucked now um i think he's also been drunk consistently for the last 20 years which oh rudy you think is a big drinker yeah yeah they oh yeah people say that interviews he's given know that yeah that makes sense he goes to the bar before and after appearances where he's like people have been like yeah he reeks of booze or remember a appearances where he's like on TV. People have been like, yeah, he reeks of booze. Or remember a couple times, like even like on CNN like, Rudy, have you been drinking alcohol? He's like, it's preposterous.
Starting point is 00:46:54 What are you talking about? Wow. Yeah. Why didn't I even think of that? I guess I just don't think that these alcoholics can function this highly but they really can't. There's some that really, really can. I's some that really really can i mean he's not functioning well but like just being able to not die and drinking that much and i mean and he looks great yeah right that's the thing is that the place it comes out is that he
Starting point is 00:47:18 appears to be like falling apart from the inside just like it's like black ink leaking down from various parts of his body. Let's talk real quick about this New York Times article, Bill Gates, you know, so we had heard the Epstein thing, but there's the report that he pursued a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein after he was convicted, or he was convicted of, I think, child sex trafficking. So that's obviously not good
Starting point is 00:47:48 look yeah yeah like three years after and then melinda french gates was like if you ever hang with him again i'm sorry like that's you you just can't and he continued to do it behind her back and we're getting more details that apparently people who were around for those interactions said that, so I'll just read directly from the article. For years, Mr. Gates continued to go to dinners and meetings at Mr. Epstein's home, where Mr. Epstein usually surrounded himself with young and attractive women, said two people who were there and two others who were told about the gatherings. On at least one occasion, Mr. Gates remarked in Mr. Epstein's presence
Starting point is 00:48:25 that he was unhappy in his marriage, according to people who heard the comments. So that's interesting. It seems like he's implying like, sure would be nice if somebody would, you know, love me. Massage me upstairs. Yeah. But apparently, so just there's also the more standard,
Starting point is 00:48:44 powerful guy, sex predatory behavior. He's like always trying to date women who work for Microsoft, for the Gates Foundation, for the company that manages his assets. Oh, before they announced the divorce. He was like, really? Have these rumors been going around forever? Because this was the first... I always thought he was just such a good guy. What was... I think she was helping him cover up.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And there was like a lot of goodwill. And now it's just becoming a thing where it's... Yeah, it's just... So yeah, there're six current and former employees of microsoft the foundation the firm that manages the gates fortune said those incidents which referred to him so he would i think he also got the benefit of the doubt because he's a billionaire and he would ask women he'd be like look if this makes you uncomfortable forget it ever happened but would you like to go out to dinner with me like he would like pull them aside and then
Starting point is 00:49:47 he wouldn't like persist when they were like fuck no dude like leave me alone but that is they said like that was that was happening all the time uh he was known for making clumsy approaches to women in and out of the office uh his behavior fueled widespread chatter among employees about his personal life so so insane to me that our global economy and like everything that impacts us as a world is based upon just 22 year old women being irresistible to disgusting men and like it's like horniness these like really powerful men, just because they're like, are like, want just young girls. We all can't get a vaccine. Like that's, it's like, I mean, it's all connected.
Starting point is 00:50:33 It's just disgusting. And it's not even surprising that he is like that. Or maybe he just really needed a friend. And Jeffrey's just a really good friend. And they just have really good chats. is just a really good friend and they just have really good chats that's what this some of these articles too because like they're also spinning and saying like that he was seeking like marital advice from jeffrey epstein and you're like oh excuse you for his quote toxic marriage and you're like this okay i mean this why wasn't that a podcast kind of hits again that capitalism is not
Starting point is 00:51:03 the free market it protects people with all the capital bill gates is one of the richest people in the world so therefore he gets you know the benefit of the doubt from all the mainstream media they're gonna cover up all this shit for decades until they feel like they can come out with it. But the capital, like being as powerful as he is or Jeff Bezos is or Elon Musk is, like they are going to get the benefit of the doubt like 99 times out of 100. And then we'll find out 100 years on
Starting point is 00:51:38 how awful they fucking were. And they all want capital. They all want to be the richest so that they can, it all relates to like sex and being able to like feel like a man. I mean, there's some people that aren't maybe motivated by sex, but it's like I always just think about that of like all the things we have that are invented or because a man wanted to probably have sex. Like and like seem cool to people be like, I'll invent a chair because maybe that'll make me important in this village. And then maybe I'll get laid more like it's all based upon that and it's just so funny that yeah these things can come crumbling down because guys are just pervs yep and um yeah it's like the idea
Starting point is 00:52:17 of the dude who's making a chair yeah did you see wayne make that chair oh my god i'm fucking wayne tonight make him the chairman of our town that's how it started and he's like yes people go oh you can't watch so-and-so's comedy someone recently was like why did you like i think i liked something that was funny from a guy that's maybe been accused of predatory stuff with women and i go because it made me laugh and i if i didn't enjoy everything that was invented by a man who did something gross to a wooden or to a woman sorry is that every nothing would exist like if i snap my fingers and everything that did that was created because a man was gross to a woman at some point stopped working doors wouldn't there wouldn't be anything i mean or we'd have better versions of
Starting point is 00:53:05 the shit that we have yes it would just be different for sure yeah i think but yeah it goes along with i think because we were in a phase too where it's only until the last few years where people are willing to confront the history of anything that we interact with because for so long the sort of the move the pace of society was like let's just fucking ignore all like we have this now right so ignore how we got here and now we're like well hold on man because how we got here still really fucked up for many people of all kinds and then it's like uh how much better could it be to jack's point of like yeah we might not have those things that those terrible people were but what about the people that could have made cool things that were silenced? So it's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. I think it's underrated, like, how the spread of, like, democracy and, like, including more people in the conversation around, like, science and, you know, arts and everything. How that coincided with all of a sudden, like, technology is moving so quick and, like, we're solving all these huge problems. It's like, yeah, because we stopped only relying on, like, the dumbest, most insulated, privileged, like, 5% of the population. Like, that helps a lot. It's not just white men from Northern Europe who are contributing to the fucking advancement
Starting point is 00:54:23 of the human species. Yeah, maybe my iPhone wouldn't take screenshots every time I turned down the volume. contributing to the fucking advancement of the human species. Yeah, maybe my iPhone wouldn't take screenshots every time I turn down the volume. Fuck you, Jobs. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:03 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
Starting point is 00:56:42 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:56:56 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
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Starting point is 00:58:25 Most of the time. And we're back. And let's just get into this. I mean, I've been chopping at the bit ever since I saw that 60 Minutes was going to do a story on UFOs. I want to, aka UAPs, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. But this is, you know, I wanted to be the cool guy who's like, I knew all that shit. But the details.
Starting point is 00:58:55 The cool guy? Yeah, exactly. I was into this before. I was in UFOs like a long time ago. Okay, bro. Yeah, I had that instinct. But I'm really glad that this 60 Minutes report came through. I think the details that I don't think had been fully absorbed in the mainstream media prior to the story that the story hit.
Starting point is 00:59:18 These encounters like were and are happening all the time. They have this naval aviator, like, pilot guy saying that, like, when he was flying missions off the East Coast, he was seeing these things every day for two years. He said they're... Every day? Yeah. So one thing that made sense to me, helped solve a problem for me
Starting point is 00:59:41 that I always have, like, the question of, like, why we aren't seeing these all the time, other than that they always have like the question of like why we don't we aren't seeing these all the time other than that they're out over the ocean that seems to be how they adapted to camera phones as they just moved out over the ocean but wait is that real are you just saying that no no that that really seems to be where all the sightings are happening now is off the coast off because they realized they were getting seen too much because everyone has phones now, cameras. That's my suspicion. Whoa. Interesting. Okay. So the one really close-up encounter that this gives a lot of detail on indicates that they're smaller than I remember hearing and than they are in movies, which I think matters because if you've ever seen like a balloon float away into a clear blue sky you like realize they disappear after about you know a thousand feet
Starting point is 01:00:30 because like right yeah we see like tiny specks of jumbo jets flying across the sky at ten thousand feet so like think about these these are they said about the size of a fighter jet you're not going to see a fighter jet at that height. And also these things, they've seen them descend from 80,000 feet down to sea level in a split second. Oh, my God. They're more well sourced than I think the mainstream media. It's not like one person seeing it. The main inexplicable accounts are picked up by a radar. Then they scramble flights to go check it out. They see it with their eyes. The planes have infrared targeting cameras on them. They see them. They pick them up. And then the big detail that I think was new news is they had a highly ranked deputy assistant director of defense saying that they know because he's like high enough he can say for sure that this is not the u.s military like this isn't some u.s military technology like the u.s military is like what the fuck is going on whoa and this was all this was on 60 minutes last night and as someone who knew all this stuff kind of going
Starting point is 01:01:38 into it did you watch the piece last night and yeah was that the only thing that you kind of learned last night well so no i'm gonna to play this five minute clip for you guys. So they also got the people who saw one of the more mind blowing and inexplicable ones who are, you know, just dorky like pilots like in their 50s who are just describe it. And like you can see that their brain doesn't want to accept it as they're talking through it but it's just a i just want to i just want you guys to listen i can't wait yeah the government has ignored it at least publicly since closing its project blue book investigation in 1969 but that began to change after an incident off southern california in 2004 which was documented by radar, by camera, and four naval aviators. We spoke to two of them.
Starting point is 01:02:28 David Fravor, a graduate of the Top Gun Naval Flight School. Again, kind of a dorky looking dude with glasses, gray hair, jeans and a blazer. A woman who looks like a high school principal. I never wanted to be on national TV. No offense. So why are you doing this? Because I was in a government aircraft. Because I was on the clock.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And so I feel a responsibility to share what I can, and it is unclassified. Okay. It was November 2004, and the USS Nimitz Carrier strike group was training about 100 miles southwest of San Diego. For a week, the advanced new radar on a nearby ship, the USS Princeton, had detected what operators called multiple anomalous aerial vehicles over the horizon, descending 80,000 feet in less than a second. descending 80,000 feet in less than a second. That's something. On November 14th, Fravor and Dietrich,
Starting point is 01:03:27 each with a weapons system officer in the back seat, were diverted to investigate. They found an area of roiling white water the size of a 737 in an otherwise calm blue sea. So, as we're looking at this, back cedar says hey skipper do you and about that got out i said dude do you do you see that thing down there and we saw this little white tic tac looking object and it's just kind of moving above the white water area as dietrich he's like indicating like a swirling motion look sort of spiraling down? Yep. The tic-tac-toe point north-south, it goes...
Starting point is 01:04:07 and just turns abruptly and starts mirroring me. So as I'm coming down, it starts coming up. So it's mimicking your moves. Yeah, it was aware we were there. He said it was about the size of his F-18, with no markings, no wings, no exhaust plumes. I want to see how close I can get. So I go like this and it's climbing still.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And when it gets right in front of me, it just disappears. Disappears? Disappears. Like, gone. It had sped off. What are you thinking? So your mind tries to make sense of it. I'm going to categorize this as maybe a helicopter or maybe a drone.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And when it disappeared, I mean, it was just... Did your back seaters see this too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was four of us in the airplanes literally watching this thing for roughly about five minutes. Seconds later, the Princeton reacquired the target, 60 miles away. Another crew managed to briefly lock onto it with a targeting camera before it zipped off again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:07 All right. We can stop there. Wait, do we get to see it? Did they show the footage? They didn't get any. Yeah, they didn't get the footage. So 60 miles away, someone else picked it up like right away. Yeah, right away.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Within a blink of an eye, it was 60 miles. It's pieced out. Yeah. And yeah, it's there. There are. So the Tic Tac thing has been corroborated like you've probably seen the radar footage or the uh i think it's infrared camera targeting footage like the thing that they usually target enemy vehicles with uh locked onto it and you can actually hear the
Starting point is 01:05:40 people be like because it's really hard hard to get something moving that fast. Nothing moves that fast. So that's... Our technology isn't equipped to even pick these things up for the most part. Even make sense of them. Whoa! And now we've got Marco Rubio out here who's like, we've got to get to the bottom of this.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah, Marco Rubio. I guess I agree with him. I know. Also somebody who appears to be i don't know he he's rotting from the inside as well what's the what's the what are we doing with what's gonna happen what is what does this mean that's the thing like that's what is so interesting about it to me is that there's just not like there's not much of a plan yeah the pentagon is not known to be like i don't know man it's fucking trippy uh do you believe in roswell and the crash and everything do you i don't know about that stuff like i i i think that's like there's so
Starting point is 01:06:38 much like bullshit upon bullshit upon bullshit like calloused up over it that it's really hard to like get to the original details of it and like they i basically believe in like these very specific instances where we have like multiple corroborating things and also technology that spots the stuff and we have the military being like yo we don't fucking know we're kind of freaked out if you guys have any ideas like that's what's also interesting is that they're now telling like in the past i think we didn't see many instances like this because they even say after that they're like we've talked over beers and said if it had just been us out there we never would have brought this up like we never would have admitted to what we had seen because it would have been so weird.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But because there were four of us who could all be like, I swear that I saw it. They saw it like we all saw the same thing. So there's probably all sorts of cases like this or similar where people were just like, yeah, but I don't want to seem like I'm crazy. So they're trying to do it. They're trying to big little lies it. You know what I mean? Y'all were there. Y'all know what happened.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Have you guys seen anything before? I have not. Me neither. I thought I was stargazing in the Cayman Islands. It was really dark and I thought I saw something and it would like move wherever I looked. It was like what I thought was a satellite, you know, that you follow it and then it would move.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And then I realized it was one of those floaters in your eye. You try to like trace and it keeps going. It then I realized it was one of those floaters in your eye. In your eye. That you try to like trace and it keeps going. Like it will go. You can't ever catch up with it. It's almost like I can predict the movements. Yes. So the skeptics all like, I think a lot of these things are like, you know, a spot on
Starting point is 01:08:19 the lens. Weather balloons. Or weather balloons. I mean, that was the 60s version of it. Right. But I think some of them really are weather balloons sometimes that because they're so far away and because they're big, like it just fucks people's perception up. But stuff like this doesn't like that doesn't make any sense. It's all wax.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And yeah. And you have like shook pilots who are like, I didn't really want to ever talk about this on TV. Yeah. This makes me feel very uncomfortable. I wish I didn't have to tell you this story. I got chills hearing that story. For sure. The fact that someone has a Storz and Bickel volcano vaporizer next to them
Starting point is 01:08:53 with spiked hair and is like, nah man, I'm telling you, I know what I saw. I know what I saw. That's the thing. It's when someone tells you what they saw and you just know they're not the type of person that would ever like the that it's hard for them they had to like really look deep inside to even admit because they're so embarrassed that they even saw this and that's when you're like this is the shit's real yeah she was like that's the other thing is people a lot of people's
Starting point is 01:09:20 explanations are it's a drone or it's like some sort of enemy thing and she was like i was trying to make it that in my mind as it was coming up even though it wasn't moving like that and like it the stuff it was doing couldn't really do that but then when it like zipped 60 miles away in a split second i realized like i was looking at something like you can't you need something to like literally break your brain to uh i think for a certain type of person who is like you know military been trained to just like yeah if everything is understandable black and white yeah yeah that's what you see magic sometimes you're like i i know that just broke my brain but i know you're a human like you you know that there's a trick and and this one is just... David Blaine
Starting point is 01:10:06 was nowhere to be found. Right. I personally believe in magic. I think all magicians are evil warlocks. And I hope you do, because you'll always have a friend wearing big red shoes. That's true. Nikki, it has been a pleasure having you
Starting point is 01:10:21 back on TDZ. Where can people find you and follow you? You know, Nikki Glaser on Instagram, but also every day, Monday through Thursday, the Nikki Glaser podcast. Jump on in. You don't have to listen to... If you like this show, you'll like that one.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Just jump in anytime. You'll catch up. You'll get the inside jokes fairly soon. You can listen to past episodes, but it's not required. And that's what I love about it most. It's just a daily morning radio show that you would listen to on your drive to work so uh the nikki laser podcast check it out yeah with all the sound effects right like no it's so good uh we're so happy to have you guys on the network so happy to be on it oh and
Starting point is 01:11:03 i'm going on tour uh this summer I'm doing a theater tour July through probably January. It's called One Night with Nikki Glaser and I've 40 cities or something like that. You can find out where it's at. NikkiGlaser.com slash tour. Damn. She's going to watch her Veep tapes before she goes out. You know I'll be watching it. Yep. Yep. I really will be. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yeah i've been i really recommend following the guy from eve six uh the lead singer eve six he he got a lot of press when he first like started tweeting really
Starting point is 01:11:39 honestly but yeah if you just at eve six on Twitter, he just like talks about he said, I think the tweet that got it's Eve six with the number six at Eve six. I think it was he first got a lot of like attention because he tweeted, I was literally a virgin when I wrote the heart in a blender song. I think that opened up. He just talks, he tweets honestly about pop culture and about music and about music. Politics. Politics. You know, Third Eye Blind, you know, the lead singer of Third Eye Blind apparently told him that he was going to fuck his girlfriend like in person. And just like he just gives you he's just always tweeting is really funny and and really honest. And probably could be canceled for many of the things he says. But I enjoy his feed a lot.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Nice. Miles, where can people find you and what's the tweet you've been enjoying? And probably could be canceled for many of the things he says. But I enjoy his feed a lot. Nice. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. You know, we're just talking 90 day, but fucking high. And let's see some tweets that I like. First one is from Thickums at misanthropic 92.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Someone once said Twitter is a sociology seminar where no one has done the reading, but everyone is speaking. I think about it all the time. Yeah, that does feel like that. Becca O'Neill at Becca O'Neill tweeting. When I see a bunch of green circles on my IG stories, I feel like this man right here.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And it's various from game of Thrones with like a fan. Yeah. When you know you're in that close friend circle you do feel like you're getting the tea the real shit oh man I am not in any of those alright you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien
Starting point is 01:13:19 tweet I'm enjoying Joel Kim Booster tweeted were you bored or were you boring? Claire Parker tweeted, all my hydration comes from the iced coffee runoff sips when you drink the melted ice. Yes, I
Starting point is 01:13:36 love Claire Parker. She's one of my favorite people. She's a good friend of mine. That's so funny and so true. So true. It's where all my liquid comes from. Melted ice and so true. So true. It's where all my liquid comes from. Melted ice. And iced coffee. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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Starting point is 01:14:22 Uh, we've gone out on a river track, Tiber track, maybe a few years ago, but the new shit's out. And it's really dope. It's called Hypnotized. And it's just got a great... River Tiber has just great production.
Starting point is 01:14:32 It's worked with a lot of artists that you really like. I recommend the work. But this has just got... It's funky and it's got bass to it. And it's got... His vocals are really nice and soulful. So it's a good one to you know get you to through your tuesday and i am adding it right now on spotify hypnotize boom done ha sicker than your
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