The Daily Zeitgeist - Universe FINALLY Ending! Klarna’s AI Oopsie 05.21.25

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

In episode 1867, Jack and Miles are joined by actor, voiceover artist, and musician, Shahjehan Khan, to discuss… Is The AI Future Just More Gig Work For Humans? Staffing Cuts Are Leading To Mor...e Deadly Weather Events? Did They Make Another Jurassic World Movie Purely To Promote A Theme Park Ride? Good News: The Universe May Be Ending Sooner Than Expected and more! Is The AI Future Just More Gig Work For Humans? Staffing Cuts Are Leading To More Deadly Weather Events? Jurassic World Rebirth | Official Trailer 2 Final Trailer for Jurassic World Rebirth Shows the River Raft Scene From Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park, More of the D-Rex, and the Mutadon Jurassic World Rebirth Has a Sequence From Michael Crichton’s First Jurassic Park Novel That Didn’t Make It Into the Original Movie — and Fans Have Ideas for What It Could Be An Oral History of Jurassic Park: The Ride The Forgotten Story Behind Jurassic Park: The Ride Good News: The Universe May Be Ending Sooner Than Expected Gravitational Pair Production and Black Hole Evaporation Universe decays faster than thought, but still takes a long time How Stephen Hawking Transformed Our Understanding of Black Holes 'Hawking radiation' may be erasing black holes. Watching it happen could reveal new physics. Scientists calculate when the universe will end — it's sooner than expected LISTEN: Assumptions (Kaytranada Edit) by Sam GellaitrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's something where that like, girls gone wild was downstream of banned from TV. I think what's his Joe Francis may have actually had something to do with banned from TV. Yeah. Damn. What a time. Yeah, Joe Francis. But I do, I do feel like Final Destination is completely downstream from phases of death. I only remember the trailer for the very first Final Destination with, I believe an actor
Starting point is 00:00:22 named Devin Sawant. I don't know if that's the right word. I don't know. I don't death. I only remember the trailer for the very first final destination with, I believe, an actor named Devin Sawa. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Oh, Sawa. Sawa for life, man. Sawa for life. Uh, yeah. I'm a Sawa Patch Kid over here.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Jesus Christ. Oh, shit. Okay, we need to start. No, no, let's keep going. I got other Sawa puns. Let's keep going. Christ. Okay. We need to start. No, no. Let's keep going. I got other sour puns. Nah, keep going. Let's keep going. Let this ride.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Oh man. Everyone's talking about the lead in Shogun and a Sawai. It's just another name. Hey man, I'm trying to get in on the fun, bro. It looks like a lot of fun over there. fun bro. It looks like a lot of fun over there. You're listening to an iHeart podcast. Hello the internet and welcome to season 389 episode three of Dirty Daily Sight guys.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's a production of iHeart radio. It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. I'm just in a random conference room in the iHeartRadio HQ, screaming Dirt Daily Zeitgeist. We'll see if security comes. I can see them through the glass window behind you. Sir. I put my back to the glass window so I wouldn't make eye contact with any corporate people.
Starting point is 00:01:45 They like walk to five. They're like, who's that guy? He's a, I think a podcaster that works here. Damn, they left them in this building? It is Wednesday, May 21st, 2025. Oh my God. Big day. It's national juice slush day.
Starting point is 00:02:01 If you like a slushy, it's your day. Although it says juice slush, so maybe it's like the... Juice Slush? It's probably the unbranded, because like slushy I think is a brand or something. So this is like frozen flavor shit that for the kids. Right. Emergency Medical Services for Children Day, National Memo Day, National Weight Staff Day, and National Strawberries and Cream Day. You need it because you know that I'm a fiend.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Delicious ones. I'm here for national memo day. Yeah. What a blast. We all love a good memo. Does the memo exist anymore like formally within business? Because now like that's an email or that's like a slack. You know what I mean like the idea of like the memorandum what are you doing with that?
Starting point is 00:02:48 Soy memorandum. Yeah soy memorandum. I don't even know what those templates these little pink sheets that would be. What were the original memos? I actually don't know. It was just literally like a note like a short document just again intended to inform a group of people about a specific topic I actually don't know. It was just literally like a note like a short document Again intended to inform a group of people about a specific topic a memo media note email or other record made for yeah That's what I think of it as just like any note Yeah, yeah Where's like in many ways it just it's all it has taken over our world and I'm glad it's finally getting a day that we recognized
Starting point is 00:03:24 They're like now I can't even buy a memo pad It has taken over our world. And I'm glad it's finally getting a day that we recognize. They're like, now I can't even buy a memo pad. Everybody's tweeting off all these little memos constantly all day. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, AKA, and he will blame it all on wood or ice. Swear it's not a bladder leak. Make you to nod like it's fine and wish that he had worn some deep pens.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That one's less than zero on the discord, the popular hymn on Eagles wings. But yes, I have probably heard as much as any song in the history of my life. Because every Sunday, man, that shit was popping. Standard. Standard. A standard. Thrill to be joined as always by my cohost, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's miles gray. Okay. On grok today, hallucination. I'm working late. Cause I must be working late. It's Miles Gray, AKA, on Grok today, hallucination, I'm working late, cause I'm a singer. Okay, that's it. Hannah Ramic View, thank you for that, AKA.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I just, that's, I asked you on the Discord, I asked Hannah, I said, what, is it meant to just be, oh, Grok today, hallucination, I'm working late, cause I'm a singer? She's like, yeah, I couldn't make the rest work. I'm sorry, I said, no, this is perfect, because- I love a simple Hannah Ramic View'm working late because I'm a singer." She's like, yeah, I couldn't make the rest work. I'm sorry. I said, no, this is perfect because- I love a simple hand-ramex view.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Dude, because I'm a singer is, I think my favorite lyric in Espresso. It's just like, I'm working, because I'm a singer. Because I'm a singer. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. More musicians should just talk about how they're singers.
Starting point is 00:05:04 My favorite songs are those hard rock songs. They're like, so fucking hard, man. Being on the road. Yeah. People make fun of my long hair. You don't understand. Yeah. I heard a guy say,
Starting point is 00:05:18 is that a here a hymn the other day? Do you know the song I'm talking about? No. What is that? I was about to say, the echoes of the amplifier ringing in my head. Smoke the day's last cigarette. Wondering what she say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Oh, this is Bob Seeger. As covered amazingly by the one and only Metallica. And then, oh, so it's a Bob Seeger jam that Metallica then covers? Yeah, dude. Oh, I actually heard it for the first time, uh,'s a Bob Seeger jam that Metallica then covers? Yeah, dude. Oh. I actually heard it for the first time as a Metallica song. So I will never get that version out of my head.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It feels like they're reaching so hard to try and find some hardships that they're enduring as internationally touring rock stars. Who just are like, and then all these beautiful women are fighting over you. It's very chaotic. People try and give you their drugs. I watched their documentary,
Starting point is 00:06:12 Some Kind of Monster on a yearly basis. That's probably my favorite music documentary of all time. You think James Hetfield was like, man, we need a song about how fucking hard it is to be Metallica, man. People don't fucking know. You don't fucking know, man. They can't even come up with something. I had to move Metallica man. You don't fucking know And you don't fucking know man can't even come on to veil They're like fuck it man did another artist write about how hard it is being a rock star. I'll just cover that Make it like espresso just being like cuz I'm a singer. Yeah, exactly. I'm working late cuz I'm a singer
Starting point is 00:06:41 Okay I'm a singer. Okay. What else do you need to know? A little hard. Not that hard. Yeah, you just want to, you know, haunt some elk and drive your, whatever the rocket powered car thing is that he drives. I know way too much about that band, so we could just do a whole podcast on that. Wait, who had a rocket powered car? James Hetfield. It's in Some Kind of Monster. He gets pulled over by a cop and then the cop recognizes him and it's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And he like has this moment where he's like, what do I expect? Is it like, I ride this thing and because I don't want to be noticed. It's like, it's kind of amazing. It's like, I think I'm a narcissist. I can't tell. And then they cut to Lars just like on the couch, just talking about his paintings. Yeah. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Miles, that third voice. One of our favorites. That was you? An actor, voiceover artist, musician who stars in the certified fresh Hulu series, Deli Boys. Yeah. Also, it has a good Metacritic score. We're a Metacritic podcast here.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You've seen him as Ozzy in the film Aftermath on Netflix. He's been nominated for an Ambien Webby as a podcaster. He's a world-renowned rock guitarist. You know his face from Mortal Kombat. Please welcome back to the show, Shah Jahan Khan. Shah Jahan Khan. What up?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Coming to you live from the shores of Boston, Massachusetts. All right. As planes fly overhead. Hey, shout out Logan. Apologies to yourself, people. Yeah. Shout out Logan. Yeah, I'm looking at it. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:08:05 There it is. Fucking Logan. Isn't there like a pyramid-shaped hotel in Boston somewhere, like on the harbor? Is there a pyramid? There's a- Or like a wacky shit? Formerly known as Wynn Encore Casino. There's a very orientalist, Taj Mahal type situation casino.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Oh. I don't know that there's a pyramid-shaped hotel. There's an iconic Harbor hotel in Boston. Uh, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. It's, oh, it's the Hyatt Regency, Boston. And it's got that big like, the one that's on that, the one that's on Logan. I on the water.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Campus. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I, any Boston people are going to probably be thinking that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I just remember when I was when I was talking about the one with a big arch in it and then like a little Taj Mahal type thing on the like a little. That's that's the casino. That's the encore casino that I was talking about. There is also a hotel. I'm talking about this thing. Oh, I was totally. Of course, it's on the fucking child's dude. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Of course. No, because I that's like the only situation you should have said. You should have said the double stepladder. Sorry. It looks like it's not made out of miles. I'm just a pyramid made out of like eight legos. Yeah, sorry. I should have said a Mesopotamian rectangular structure. Right. Yeah, that I would you. That I would have read.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's my own ignorance. And my father went to MIT right down the road from that. So I'm not only to my city, but to my family too. Super flex. My dad worked for Kodak, bitch. Yeah, that's right. Ever heard of it anymore? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Because they invented the digital camera and then kind of fun. So They kind of yeah, they sort of skyped themselves out of the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, maybe he lost his pension So I'm moving on. Oh, no, Shaja. How have you been? It sounds sounds like been would be I've been okay, man I've been you know I'm sure we'll get into how we're all really doing. But yeah, fortunately, the last few years from a career standpoint have been a dream come true in many ways. I'm doing a lot of things I always wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm very much still a struggling artist. And I'm, yeah, I'm alive, man. Yeah. Hey, there it is. That's what we need. Some people don't understand how hard it is to be a struggle. No, they really don't. Here on the road.
Starting point is 00:10:28 They should really refer to the song, turn the page by Bob Seeger slash Metallica to really understand. You're like in first class and everyone's looking at you because they're like, I know I recognize him from somewhere. And you're like, yeah, but do they like recognize me? Like, do they actually see me? class mean scrounging for peanuts? Yeah in the first class. Yeah That's what I mean
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm still chewing the ice I have been one in the once in my entire life My family got upgraded to business class on the trip to Pakistan. Back when British airways still flew to Pakistan, but I have never, never flown first class ever. I'm not saying I won't. So, I mean, if anybody wants to hook that up, like I'm down. I mean, surely you're hiring land from succession, man.
Starting point is 00:11:20 He's got it's first five. Clearly. It's first five. It wasn't that I lied and said I was a New York local and packed for a day of work and realized that I was going to be there for a week and then basically had one pair of socks and had to like, it was totally. Oh, did you have to, oh, were they only casting like New York locals for that? And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It was my first job that my man, I had booked, I had done this film, Aftermath in 2021. And then I did this film, Aftermath, in 2021. And then I did this like lifetime murder mystery. Those are my two things where I actually got lines and stuff. And then after that, my local Boston agent, we were like, yeah, maybe we should try to get a manager. I was like, so how do I do that? Do I just like ask other actors like, hey, can I have your manager?
Starting point is 00:11:59 That didn't really work. So. They're like, well, if you don't look like me, yeah. That's usually what happens when you ask other people like, hey, how's your manager? And you're like, well, they're kind of, you know, we would kind of be going out for the same stuff. So maybe fuck off. You know, we already got a couple of Pakistanis, so the quota has been filled. Maybe we could move.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But yeah, I started, I was then connected to my awesome manager, Melissa Young. And, you know, the first job we booked was this character, Len, on Succession, supposed to be party guest number four. You never know what these coasts, and this is my first ever TV booking. You never know what these co-star roles. Yeah. I literally got the email. I just jumped in my car and started driving.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I was like, yeah, it's like one line. It'll be like a day or two. Right. I got there and she was like, no, no, on the way. She's like, yeah, it's a five day booking. I was like, oh, okay. And then in the email somewhere, it was something about a green room. And I was like, yeah, that means like, we're all the background
Starting point is 00:12:49 actors sit together and you know, like we just chill. And I got there first day and it was like, no, no, you have your own hotel room with the cat. The cast is on the same floor as you. And I then from there, just my mind has continued to be blown. Everybody was super cool, but I literally do. I packed for two days. I had two pairs of boxers, two pairs of socks.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Uh, I didn't have enough clothes. So I like wore the bathrobe like in the room. I like your clothing. Right. People were like, why didn't you just even go to target and like buy other stuff? I was like, you don't understand. Like I was trying to save money, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I, so it was, it was a wildy. Oh, and I put one of the dirty socks. I haven't, I'm not told the story perfectly publicly. So here we go. I put one of my dirty socks, like to air it out. Like I opened the window. I do that every time in the room, every single time. Then the sock fell.
Starting point is 00:13:43 It was a wild still there. It's probably still there.. It's probably still. Wait, you air your socks out. I always air my socks out. What do you mean? I always leave my shoes outside too. Yeah, because I just do. I got a foot sweat thing.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's like, yeah, I've said so much. Can we move on? All right. Sweat. Thank you, Jack. Oh, yes. Joe, I have cleared like, you know, I have very formative memories from, you know, basketball camp when I was 10, 11, and just everybody on the entire dorm floor that I was staying with being like, what the fuck is that smell?
Starting point is 00:14:15 And then like one time they figured out it was me and it was, you just triggered a memory. Someone before I dropped out of college, the first time I'm a trifecta of a dropout. Oh, you never give up. Girl, I think her name was Anya. She once entered me in my poor roommate, Darren's room was like, Hey, your guys room always smells like dirty socks. What's up with that?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Isn't that so weird? That in a very, is it haunted or what is that? Yeah. Are you an Arm and Hammer foot powder user? Oh yeah. Travel size. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah, of course. And then the way, sorry, my mind is like, no way are you an arm and hammer foot powder user? Oh, yeah travel size. You know what I'm talking about Yeah, yeah, of course and then the way
Starting point is 00:14:48 Both the same perfect night even like yeah, you know the army. Yeah Specific thing. Yeah, I know Packed socks. So like as you were talking about like having that experience I was like sweating Who's the rapper from cribs who was like, you know what? I got famous so that I could wear a new pair of socks every day. Oh, that. You remember this episode? No. Yeah, I mean, it feels like a very Cribs thing.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. I mean, Redman is the most memorable one. Yeah, I don't know. But he would. Yeah, because he was like the apartment. Yeah, he's just got like frozen pizzas and stuff. And he's like playing N64. And he's like, that's my cousin on the couch sleeping. All right. Classic. Chow Jahan, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:15:34 First, a couple of the stories we're talking about. We're going to I'm hearing more and more about this AI stuff. Yeah, yeah. And we're going to look at as a manager. What are you thinking? Yeah. Good. Really good. Seems like everybody's doing positive stuff. You better step your game up, gray. Um, that's right.
Starting point is 00:15:53 That's why I'm asking that we talk about this. You can't even draw, just to subtly apply some pressure. It's, it just, it feels like everybody is going to, or at least bad managers are going to overextend on this and it's break whatever product they sell to people. But now we have, but now we have proof. Yeah, now we have proof and we have an example of like how they're going to back out of it. And they hate it. Surprise, surprise. It's bad for us. Bad for all people.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Democratic Party. We'll talk about some facial recognition, cameras, technology being used in New Orleans, just a fucking dragnet of like Terminator heads up displays in New Orleans. Some staffing cuts that are actually killing people. Some of those Trump staffing cuts that are killing people via a tornado, the most dramatic way
Starting point is 00:16:49 someone can be killed, I feel like. And maybe we'll talk about that new Jurassic world, trailer and Sesame Street. All of that, plenty more. Probably we're not getting to all that, to be honest with you. But before we get to that, Shah Jahan, we do like to ask our guest.
Starting point is 00:17:05 What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Uh, the last thing that I, this is my search history was the benefits of freezing one's credit. Uh, I recently got kicked off of my student loan repayment program. And yeah, I just went down this rabbit hole of what the fuck am I going to do? So yeah, I mean, I would. There's many more interesting things about me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah. But that's, that's what I just one of my top fears right now. God wait. So how did you get kicked off the dude? It was the worst possible sequence of events. So this year, because these assholes are trying to get rid of all these income based repayment programs right before they announced this, it turned out last year was the first year that my wife and I filed our taxes together. And I screwed myself by doing that because I made whatever a fraction
Starting point is 00:17:53 of what they consider is too much to let you know. So then I basically got kicked off. And that was right at the time where they froze the whole system. So I couldn't get back on to like try to amend it and stuff. And so we're basically just, I've went into forbearance, like millions of other, you know, borrowers, um, and we're just kind of waiting to see what happens next year, but it's not, it's not looking good. You know, I was looking, I mean, I was, as I said, I'm an artist, I was making the minimum payments.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I was, I hadn't missed a payment in 10, 12 years. If I, if the IDR program still exists next year, technically I could go back on it, I think. And they wouldn't, I could pick up where I left off, but you know, it's all up in the air, like, who knows what's going to happen. I feel like somehow the Trumpian solution is like some goon friend of his with like a debt consolidation company. He's like, you want me to handle all these?
Starting point is 00:18:43 And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel good. Privacy. Yeah. So that's why that was in my, my search history. I don't know what then went to freezing credit and unfreezing credit. Yeah. I just was going down.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. Down a path of doom. And if it does fuck my credit up, how do I freeze my credit? Exactly. I see that. I see that path. It's, it's a cool country. Can I clone myself to steal my own identity and prove?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. Now you're thinking outside of the box. It's Trump's America, baby. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like you made payments on time for 12 years and they're like, well, that's not how you get ahead in this country. You've got to come up with some weird word. Your word doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. No, no, no. You've got to force them to sue you and then use your dad's lawyer to just string them along for years till they give up. That's right. Duh. That's how you do it. What's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Oh boy. Uh, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan's underrated. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a, I don't know. I don't know what it is about, about Mr.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Dylan. I don't know what you're saying about him. He just doesn't do it for me. The look in your eyes I don't know what it is about about Mr. Dylan Overrated you're giving Dylan over. Sorry underrated. Oh crap crap crap Just that the feeling of that was so nice Is about him I just Oh, no, no, oh, sorry I don, sorry. Fuck, overrated. Guys suck shit. You guys are asshole. I don't know what it is about this asshole that I hate.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Wait, so OK, then let's do with Dylan. Dylan's overrated. Dylan is overrated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, I feel like, so I'm obviously a musician too. I've, longest people maybe possibly, maybe possibly know me. I started this band 20 years ago called the Kamina,
Starting point is 00:20:26 as an American Muslim punk rock band. Now I play in this Providence Garage Act called Ravi Shovey. I tour with a New York based artist, Sonny Singh. I basically just invite myself into other people's bands now. If they're like I got to. I don't know, I just feel like Bob Dylan, you're supposed to like him and I feel like I should. There's one, so I don't know. I just feel like Bob Dylan, you're supposed to like him. And I feel like I should. There's one song that I'm that I'm down with Desolation Row,
Starting point is 00:20:50 but mostly me and my wife just imitate his voice as if he was singing other songs like around the house. You know, I'm on the sunshine. I mean, by the way, Desolate, I the most indulgent Dylan song where he just goes on and on and on with the most random literary allusions. One of my many jobs as I was dropping in and out of college was I was a security guard as my dad was working at Kodak in the building that he was working in. I got, I mentioned I got sober. I got fired from that job for stealing alcohol.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Hell yeah. Wait, at the Kodak building? Not the Kodak. It was like in Lowell. It was one of these like corporate headquarters. I thought you were like, yeah, you know that Kodak alcohol. Yo. You know that Kodak Highlife.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, yeah. The champagne of film. I think those are just film developing chemicals. One of the things you had to do, there was a couple of campuses as a security guard, you have to like do tours of the campus and like you have these little things, little like meat and you have to just kind of like tap the like wand to like let the, your superiors know that you've actually done your job. Uh, and one of the places I had to work was in this town called Andover. And in that, at the time it was like 2000, Andover, you know, you're actually done your job. Uh, and one of the places I had to work was in this town called Andover and in that, and the title was like 2000 and over 2004 or five, maybe
Starting point is 00:22:11 there was like a computer with like MP3s that you could just, you know, just get high and like listen to this music and then occasionally do my job, but one of those songs was desolation row. And I remember because it was like eight or nine minutes long. And for some reason I just my life was Also kind of desolate to be honest at the time. So I was also trying to be like, yeah Things are tough, you know, right comfortable middle-class suburban life. I'm still living with my parents and yeah Yeah, but I understand you Bob Dylan. I get it. I get it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:43 it's a it's a long one. And like, it just keeps being like, like famous, iconic fictional characters keep showing up. He's like, and in comes Romeo. And then here comes Cinderella. Wait, that's the fucking song? I've never heard this song. I mean, it's like, it's long.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And the hunchback in Vulture game. Yeah. It shows up up in the pad pipe. Something like that. That's something like that. It's, but I'll give him that one. Nice. You get one Dylan. Yeah, I get one.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. I'm assuming the esteemed, you know, music critic that I am very well respected across the world. I also invite myself into a lot of people's bands and nobody has welcomed me in because I don't play an instrument. So I would just say that it sounds like you're a pretty good musician. Well, Jack, based on your foot care alone, I think I'd take you on tour. Yeah, I can do the pedals. I feel like people who are good musicians generally are like, this guy, like I remember
Starting point is 00:23:49 hearing the blues travelers guy who's like, I guess one of the great harmonica players. John Popper. Yeah. John Popper was like, yeah, Bob Dylan's like the worst harmonica player in the world. I feel like he's like kind of an affront to like musicians in many ways. Yeah, there's like a big N plus one essay about how Bob Dylan sucks shit. And they like compared him to Radiohead and they were like, like Radiohead uses sounds to make meaning like a musician would,
Starting point is 00:24:22 whereas Bob Dylan is just like writing words that sound smart. It was a pretty definitive take down, but I still, I still fucks with him. But he, I feel like he got away with a whole hell of a lot. You can like go back and read reviews of his albums from the seventies and man, they're just like doing, they're sweating to like make his shit sound like it's and man, they're just like, doing, they're sweating to like, make his shit sound like it's the next, they're like, and, uh, this song clearly about Vietnam and it's making interesting points and it's like, he's like just mad at an ex-girlfriend and calling her an idiot over and over again.
Starting point is 00:25:02 What are you talking about? What, uh, what's something you think's underrated underrated? Let me actually answer it correctly this time. I'm going to go with the band Korn. I think the band Korn is underrated. I got into them a little bit late in life. And when I say late in life, I literally mean a couple of years ago. Like for me in high school, like it was like, yeah, you can't listen to that shit. But I think their 2022 record is a masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I will say that. Wow. Wait, their album from three. I haven't. Wow. I'm not saying everything they've done is great. I'm not saying they're great people. Let me emphasize. I'm not saying they're great people. You don't like Christian fundamentalism. Their music is underrated. Right. Right. They never had a pleasure or misfortune. It's just the guitarist that went Christian, right? Was it Jonathan also? Davis also went Christian? Oh, I don't, I'm not sure. I was recently watching.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Head went Christian. What some guitar fans might know is a head or head or monkey. They're the two guitars? Yeah, there's head and there's monkey. I was watching this super guitar nerd show called Premier Guitar Rig Rundown with the they have all them and then they have Fieldie, the bassist. Yeah. And I think that and the deaf tones
Starting point is 00:26:17 are probably my two favorite rig rundown episodes because Fieldie's like, yeah. So like or no, maybe it was head. He was like, so like, I'm not good, but like people. But it's like, cool, it's fine. And then with deaf tones, Steph'm not good, but like people, but it's like, cool. It's fine. And then with deaf tones, Steph Carpenter, like the, the, the, the host of the show is this guy, John Bollinger. He's adorable. And he's like, Hey man, like,
Starting point is 00:26:34 just tell me about all your stuff. And he's like, yo, listen. And he's like, you know, why do you have all these? Why does your guitar? Like, he's like, listen, I just got Louis Vuitton on my guitar cause I think it looks slick. Like that's basically why I did this. I wish I could give you an answer that was deeper than a sixth grader would tell you.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And John is so disappointed because he's used to people being like, yeah, like, let me just double check with my tech. It's actually a commentary on like French colonial, the concept of luxury in a French colonial context. And you're like, oh, wow, interesting. And he's thinking it's corn, I believe is a underrated. As a band. They definitely like, I dismissed them out of hand for no good reason.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm sure in my, when they were first out and then, but then like I've heard, I think I've heard like isolated vocals of like their singer doing like his like the weird like scanning thing. I'm like, God damn, this guy's doing, something is coming through him from another world. Yeah. There is a gift there that is kind of impressive and kind of remarkable. Yeah, I think I was only in a vacuum.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It was just the follow the leader era when, you know, like at the height of their powers. At the time I was like, bro, Korn is for like the white kids whose parents got divorced in first grade. Oh, 100%. And like, it wasn't quite connecting with me. And then my parents got divorced.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And then I was like, dum, dah, dah, dum, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, and I was like, yeah. Yeah. Now I get why the bass strings aren't really notes, man. Exactly. They're just sounds,'t really notes, man. Exactly. They're just sounds, dude. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Oh wow. God hates me. Fuck yeah, corn. Let's fucking go. Their unplugged album is pretty wild. It has, uh, Amy from, um, they didn't unplugged. They didn't. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It's ridiculous. Amy Lee from, or Amy, Amy, whatever name is from Evanescence. It's pretty fucking wild. My goodness. I didn't even mention that. Thank you, Miles. I was too busy listening to On Eagles Wings and following the leader. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. As they instructed in the title of their album. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Light years ahead of their time. That's right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. On November 5th, 2018, at 6.33 a.m., a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleephole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were ten vile, gr, no, no, no, no! Ah! Grotesque. Oh my God. Oh my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public until now.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes.
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Starting point is 00:32:01 Giving yourself that agency to not just be one thing, right? I don't have to be the perception that is crafted or the version of me that everyone is kind of projecting onto me. Like I am having my human experience and it is faceted. It's so faceted and it's fascinating. May is Mental Health Awareness Month and Deeply Well is a sanctuary for your healing. I'm Devi Brown, healer, well-being expert, teacher, and fellow seeker. And each week we explore what it means to become whole through soul expanding conversations and practices. Why focus on tiny joys? Well, because they remind us of what it
Starting point is 00:32:37 means to be human. They anchor us in the present moment and they create ripples of gratitude that nourish our spirit. Tiny joys are acts of self-love. To hear this and more ways to prioritize your piece listen to Deeply Well from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T. Connecting changes everything. And we're back. We're back. And man, so what do you think of this AI stuff? I do like, I had conversations with people this past, the past couple of weeks, just like people who like work for like big corporations.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And we're just like, so what do you think of this? Like AI stuff and they're all, I don't know, a little mystified, but they're like, yeah, it's definitely like a tool that we're all going to have to learn how to use. And it might replace all of our jobs in the next six months. I feel like here in Boston, right outside of, uh, before you get onto, uh, the entrance ramp to Logan airport, there's this giant billboard which says, stop hiring humans. It's this company. I forget that.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I forget the company's name. I've seen that ad too before. And it's been there for weeks, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think we should be setting fire to those signs. Basically. Cause that, that sounds like an attack on me. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Work sucks. So that's the other thing to take into account. Work sucks and people hate their jobs. So how do, how do I, how do I benefit from all the productivity from the machines? Is there, is that in your plan or no? No, it's kind of just going up to the C-suite, but yeah, I have the same thing too, where like people ask like, Hey man man, you talk about the like, what do you think of AI? And they do it in a way that's like, they don't know where you're at.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And they don't even know where they're at on AI. Yeah. And just basically going like, I don't know. It's like exactly, exactly, dude. They're making me use it at work. And I don't fucking like it does shit. But I don't know what the anyway. So the one thing I've heard that is that seems good to me, like it seems like a good
Starting point is 00:34:47 tool is somebody who's like we did like a series of interviews with like clients and they I transcribed it and then like synthesized it and like put it all in a database that we could like, I don't know, like learn from and like access much easier than before. Yeah, sounds like a tool, a tool that you're exactly. It sounds like a fucking tool. It's like, yeah, that that.
Starting point is 00:35:10 OK, that's cool. That's like the direction that I thought about, you know, the one positive about it is like war. Right. You know, and it's also going to make our bombs really smart. Yeah, I know we all thought they were smart before, but now it's going to be those are laser guided. Go directly up the enemy's asshole is how precise it's going to be. No, it's, it just, yeah, it's a tool that's like, I don't know, if somebody told me that a computer program could do that, I'd be like, oh, that's a cool tool that is about what I would expect technology to be doing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:43 but like all of the over promising of AI is like invading the C-suite. And now they're like, so we don't need people anymore, right? Yeah, exactly. And now we're at a point where finally, the reason we're talking about this is because now we're getting more and more groans from the companies that said, yeah, fuck people, man, we're all this automation shit sounds fucking dope. That company, Klarna, the buy now pay later service, they were huge on replacing human beings with AI so much so they completely stopped hiring humans.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Two years ago. Must have seen that billboard. Yeah. Oh, is that the one? No, I don't know. No, I mean, this, this is the buy now pay later service who maybe, maybe the CEO did see it, but, this is from a Vice quote by 2024. It had partnered with OpenAI slash customer service and marketing departments
Starting point is 00:36:29 and publicly declared that quote, AI can already do all of the jobs that we as humans do, according to their CEO. And then they're like, all right, after like we saved 10 million dollars because AI can now handle things like making images, translation, data analysis, and customer service. Yeah, hold on. Customer service, that thing where being a human and having empathy helps that experience. That's the same customer service we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Also, real quick on those first few things, making images, translation, data analysis, who's telling the AI what images to make and like what data to analyze and then drawing conclusions on that? Oh, I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to get me into a gotcha thing there. Like definitely all benevolent actors. Absolutely. I know you want me to say human beings, Jack, but actually they installed AI Overseer, as they call it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Oh, Oversight AI, a grand Moff Tarkin AI. They call it Overseer AI. It's a really problematic name, but hey, they keep the other AIs in check. Well, now the CEO is realizing people fucking, wow, hate dealing with automated customer service. And that's like one of like, I feel like we need to add like a new truth. It's like death taxes. And we hate fucking automated customer service prompts.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Like every time you say, talk to a like a new truth. It's like death taxes and we hate fucking automated customer service prompts Like every time I'm so mean to those fuck talk to a human human That's like all Every call with an automated fucking So this goes on mind again. It's just sweating. Or even at the grocery store, dude. I'm like, I'll I will have every like I'll be psyched to like scan the shit myself. But inevitably I'm going to fuck it up and then I'll be I'll be the person with the blinking.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You know? Oh, yeah. Oh, man, that's so frustrating when you are trying to buy like everything. And then you fuck it up. I did that with a box of diapers the other day. And I will you scan the wrong a barcode and I go what? The fuck is multiple barcode. Yeah, I'm like I bricked the system by scanning it. They're like, it's this one I'm like how the fuck should I know that this is the biggest barcode on the fucking box and you're telling me This one's the one that shuts down your fucking checkout system. Anyway, they're going to hear about this in your employee review at Ralph's this coming quarter end of quarter. I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So now the CEO has had to basically admit that this was a huge L and they have to hire human beings again. Quote, this is from their CEO. From a brand perspective, a company perspective, I just think it's so critical that you are clear to your customer that there will always be a human if you want. Cost, unfortunately, seems to have been a too predominant evaluation factor.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And what you end up having is lower quality. The option thing is interesting to me. So this is something I was specifically thinking about this week. So one of the things that I do, which I don't know how long is going to be a career is narrate audio books. And just last week audible, for example, announced that they're going to have an AI option for publishers as well as, you know, you can hire me. Or like another narrator. And obviously like, dude, look, I understand if like some, an indie author,
Starting point is 00:39:44 you know, doesn't have the money to like fork over to like hire me or hire a whole studio to do shit. And I definitely lost one of my largest voiceover clients who shall remain nameless. Uh, this year, I'm pretty sure because of AI, I'd been doing stuff with them for a couple of years and then I, no one even reached out to me and then they responding to my emails. And then I know that the stuff is still being made. So, uh, and even with my Mortal Kombat stuff, like, even though that all happened, I would say three, four years, a couple of years before this discussion was maybe
Starting point is 00:40:15 more in the, in the public consciousness, you know, before the strike and stuff. So yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know where all the shit's going. Yeah, it's, it's hard to know. And like with this, right, they're always like, no, I don't know. I don't know where all the shit's going. Yeah, it's, it's hard to know. And like with this, right, they're always like, no, I don't replace things like customer service. Then they try it. And they're like, oh shit, that was bad. Our customers fucking hate us. It's actually affecting our business negatively. And now-
Starting point is 00:40:36 I just want to hear the like positive use. Like, Zyte Gang, anybody listening, like just hit me with like the, the examples where where somebody's given something to AI and it's created something that was good. Other than, I mean, we've talked about some scientific breakthroughs, like the decoding, the shape of proteins, I think, and the structure of proteins. That stuff is great, but I'm talking more about the stuff that we keep hearing them try to do where it replaces the whole workforce and that there's not like a noticeable drop in quality, it just feels like it never happens.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I know people who have to use it at work and they say like the latest Chad GPT is like a fucking, it's like worse and they hate it. And yeah, they had to be like, take it back and be like, Oh, yeah. I think it all depends on what you do. Cause like, I think I've, I always bring it up. Like people who I know in grant writing, they're like, I fucking thank God for this because like, I hate grant writing and just get into a bulk of already the work I have to do as a grant, like in charge of what I do at a nonprofit. But like it has now freed me up to do other things.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Again, as a tool. Yeah, again, as a tool. That's what I'm saying. It's a tool. And I think that's where you see the use cases. You're like, as a tool, not as a replacement for a human being. So now Klarna is fucking rehiring human beings, but not as employees like they once had. They are now hiring people as remote gig workers.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So they are not like, so that way they can handle customer service calls from wherever they're at. And also they don't get any benefits or the job stability of having like full time employment because they're like, you know, you guys are gig workers. And now we found a thing that kind of, you know, threads the needle. So this seems to be like a trend across business. Now, people get hype for AI and then immediately regret it because it's not actually intelligent at all. And they're like, this thing's a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:24 Teddy Ruxpin that does memes, essentially, and I can't do anything for my business. This is another thing from a Carnegie Mellon study found over half of UK business leaders who rushed to replace human jobs with AI say they now regret it. They said they found that the study found that even the best AI workers could only complete about a quarter of basic tasks. So again, I don't, I like it's, it's really in these narrow fields where unfortunately like voiceover and things like that, they found a way to just like plug shit in cause there's now you, there are so many like zombie YouTube channels that they're just putting, they just put together body cam footage from police
Starting point is 00:43:09 and it'd be like on, and it's just like on October 14th, 2024, the parklands and just shows you body cam footage. Little bit of commentary. It's the most obvious AI voice shit. And I don't know, like it, people are kind of feeling like, I don't know. I guess this is fine. The ones I keep seeing are like the like cooking, this is whatever it's my algorithm or something, but like cooking, like this is fine. The ones I keep seeing are like the like cooking, but this is whatever it's my algorithm or something, but like cooking like this is the greatest recipe ever.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Just take three eggs, a piece of broccoli and some peppercorn. Yeah, right. You know, like that kind of shit. You have three egg broccoli peppercorn. Oh, thanks. A wonderful dish. But yeah, I mean, I think that's the thing
Starting point is 00:43:43 that's freaky now about AI with this sort of Karna example and other companies that are doing the thing where like, they, they fire their actual employees, take a swing on AI. And then they're like, fuck it. We'll bring people back as gig workers. And now we're, we're actually saving money on benefits. Cause we're not having to provide any for these people. And I'm like, maybe that's, maybe that's the, at the moment, that seems like the biggest threat too.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And a lot of, in a more pronounced way is full-time employment. Anything that's, that's, that's like, maybe at the moment, that seems like the biggest threat too in a more pronounced way is full-time employment. Anything that happens at this stage, at this late stage capitalism, under this late stage capitalism structure, anything that happens, whether it be pandemic, whether it be war, whether it be whatever the changes in presidency, it's always
Starting point is 00:44:26 an excuse to fuck people, like fuck, you know, fuck over employees and funnel money upward. So like, you know, line go up and stock prices go up, they will use that money to do stock buybacks. Line go down, they fire employees. And like nobody in the C-suite gets touched. AI, you know, they overstretch on AI, they overestimate what it's able to do. They fire all the employees. And then they're like, oops, our bad.
Starting point is 00:44:58 They hire them back at like worse. It's just, it's an inevitability because workers are just completely unprotected under the system Right and it's just going to keep happening until there's like massive structural change that which doesn't even seem like it's in the conversation To happen right now unfortunately, so Yeah, it feels like AI and everything is just going to be an excuse to continue to make Everything is just going to be an excuse to continue to make life worse in America.
Starting point is 00:45:27 There's a vast, vast majority of people. It's also wild too, because remember when they, they were first talking about, like, man, like the possibilities with automation. Now we've maybe if we need to start talking about a universal basic income from the gains that we'll get from ad that's shit. Nobody's saying shit about that anymore. It's like, I don't know. We duped enough people on wall street. Now they're like, there's too much momentum going to fucking stop this.
Starting point is 00:45:48 They'll probably bring it back, like as the next stage of this, and it'll be like way too low. And also the AI will still suck shit at its job. And so the like, things will be getting done worse by AI and people will be like living on a lower, the dystopian version is like, come work at a company town to be like the slight human handler for an AI, but you're only going to work like an hour a day. Yeah. Enjoy your bug paste cubes. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah. Hey, only three bug paste cubes. You dick. That's not our fault. These, this guy's getting greedy with the bug paste cubes. Jesus Christ. All right. Should we do, let's just knock another dystopian story out here real quick.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Just let's go with the staff cuts at the federal level that are leaving people open to, you know, deadlier weather events. There was- This is wild. I actually hadn't heard about this. Yeah. There were tornadoes in Eastern Kentucky that killed 23 people at least. The governor said that the death toll is expected to rise.
Starting point is 00:46:54 The deadliest tornado of 2024, you know, seven people were killed in Texas. This was 23 people. I think it's about 27 between Missouri and Kentucky. Yeah. Seven was the most that died total in 2024 in any individual state. There are 23 in Kentucky in one event. Obviously, we asked the question, how are tornadoes getting deadlier? Sure, it can't be climate change because we don't
Starting point is 00:47:23 believe in that here in Kentucky in the South. In unrelated news, the portion of the state of Kentucky where the deaths occurred was served by a forecast office that following all the federal cuts from Doge at the beginning of the Trump administration no longer has overnight staff. Yeah. And these tornadoes happened at night. That's like, and it's not just there. Alaska has the same thing where there's no overnight coverage. Parts of California is affected. Texas, Louisiana, like you said, Kentucky, it's all like many places are now like, I don't know. Can we just can't afford it?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah. It's just like a very straightforward, oh, this thing they're doing is really bad and we're going to see the consequences soon. We're seeing the consequences and people are just kind of like, I don't know, gets buried with a bunch of other news. But I am hoping that tornadoes do the right thing and start keeping to bankers hours going forward. For sure.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. Also, I will say watching the original twister followed by the most recent one is a good idea if anybody's wondering. Yeah. Yeah. One right after the other. Yeah. Bang, bang. It anybody's wondering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah. Bang, bang. Absolutely. A twister bang, bang. Yeah. If you read project 2025, because like that's all part of like, just they're like, fuck the weather service.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It's this is in the part about the weather service quote, this industry's mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable. And they're like, and therefore fuck off. emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplanable. And they're like, and therefore fuck off. OK, we're rich. We don't live in, you know, trailer parks.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So we're not going to get pulled away by. I'm sorry. Was there was last time a tornado hit Manhattan? I think we'll be. Chuckle, chuckle. Yeah, right. Yeah, seems bad. Seems bad. Seems bad. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about Jurassic Park or some other
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Starting point is 00:52:34 and on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh, you know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
Starting point is 00:53:25 get your podcasts. AT&T connecting changes everything. And we're back. We're back. And did you guys see the new Jurassic world rebirth trailer? No, I've been, actually, I saw that it came out two days ago and I stopped myself because I'm excited for it. I don't want to fucking see it too much.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I didn't watch the trailer yet. I'm a little bit excited about it too. The one thing that's giving me hope is that Gareth Edwards is directing it. He's a guy who made like rogue one and the creator And like started off with an indy movie That like was somehow an ind like a low-budget indy movie that also was about giant monsters Um, and he also made that godzilla movie that was like kind of divisive but a massive hit But like he's always with puff daddy and jimmy page that one not that one. No, no, no, no, no that one's like a
Starting point is 00:54:28 universal Disaster everybody agrees that one sucks shit that I think that was that's the ken Watanabe one, right? When he when he first joined this that one that's from that was rolling emrick. I think hey man. That soundtrack was hot I'm just saying Dan and that Dan and I never I I remember the best raid, one of the best rage songs. No shelter. Yeah. Man, that was so much good stuff. I had that soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I remember why deeper underground. That was the first time I heard that song. I, I remember I buying that soundtrack and my dad was like, why are you listening? Nick, what is this remix of cashmere? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, this is come with me, Puff Daddy. He's like, yeah, no surprise. Come with me. And you're like, what the fuck? He's like, what is?
Starting point is 00:55:11 And then the SNL performance were Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy. Sure. Yeah. And then I remember my dad was like, you'd really fuck with Led Zeppelin if you think this is good. And I'm like, all right. And then that's when he, I remember he talked to me about John
Starting point is 00:55:22 Bonham for 15 minutes and I fucking why I got so bored I remember like dude, I got a fucking oh my god dad So bored well, I get it. Wow. He somehow plays just behind the beat for this interesting pocket feel I don't give a fuck right, but they only used one Mike Son tried to do he didn't quite have the same chops as Bonzo. I'm like, okay. Fuck, dude. Can we go to Taco Bell to get this Gordita?
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm trying to get the Z piece to spell out Godzilla to win this family a fucking billion dollars. I feel like that was the least that Diddy like, did not add a lot to that song, I'm gonna say. And I know it's controversial to speak ill of Diddy right now. No literally like metrically speaking I don't think he added much. Yeah He's like what if cashmere was this other song I yelled on top. Yeah, what if I yelled on top of cash? Would that be cool?
Starting point is 00:56:21 But anyways that this director has always seemed fated to make a Jurassic Park movie. They are dropping these things fast and furious. They ended the last trilogy, and this must have already been in production. They were like, the final Jurassic movie. I just saw the original. I have never seen one after that. The original Jurassic Park is a perfect film.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's very good. It still holds up. I love it. Every time they re-release it, I go see it. Because I'm permanently stuck at like nine years old for me when it came out. Oh, totally. That's also why, for whatever reason, I think, you know, I've had a tough year. I think I need this to be my regression.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I need this to be good. I fucking need to regress in the purest fucking way. Don't fuck this up for me, Gareth. They haven't. So here's the thing that they haven't tried doing since the first Jurassic Park is they haven't tried making a good one. I mean, I guess they try. Maybe AI could help them with that. Thank you. This is my. You're a a couple steps ahead of me. I caught that lob.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Steven Spielberg made the second one and it had some amazing sequences, but overall it was pretty bad. Not one of Steven Spielberg's best movies. I feel like Jurassic World, the reboot after the first three that were like based around theory the original movie the the reboot Jurassic World I like I kind of think of that as the point at which we were fucked as like filmgoers because it is It's the perfect encapsulation of this new model
Starting point is 00:58:06 where instead of people who love movies being the head of development in studios, they had marketing teams as the head of studios. They were just like, well, we got to make a Jurassic Park movie where the park's actually open. It's like, yeah, that is an easy movie to make like great trailers for and like ads around and like the premise is just like fucking sure fire.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And then, you know, the notes, like apparently it was just a, an impossible movie to make and it was kind of a mess. It was very like me. So there, there is a Jurassic Park ride that is based around rafts that is like kind of the main one, I think at Universal. And that one is it like people were always like, it's kind of weird because the book that the original movie is based on, like the centerpiece, like the most exciting sequence and the most cinematic. The first one after reading the book that as a 12-year-old,
Starting point is 00:59:09 I was like, well, that's going to be an awesome movie scene, is a raft chase. Spielberg just didn't end up putting it in because they had plenty without it, I guess. Okay. That they have put in this movie. This movie is written by the writer of the original Jurassic Park screenplay. The trailer is heavily featuring
Starting point is 00:59:31 this raft chase where a T-Rex is chasing them down a river. I remember they showed a section of it in the first one. I was like, whoa. Yeah, they really let you know that this is going to, they really let it breathe in this one There's something terrifying though about like a t-rex Being slowed by water and you're in a boat like that's even more psychologically fucked up really. Yeah fuck I'm look the water resistance
Starting point is 01:00:01 Because at least they were in the Jeep when they're running from the T-Rex in the first one. Yeah, have you ever been like trying to run in water as fast from a T-Rex? Yeah, from a T-Rex. Yeah, but yes Spielberg apparently storyboarded the sequence for the original movie. They just never shot it. I think it was also like crazy expensive when you look at it. It was probably between that and the part where the dinosaur just eats the dude in the in the bathroom stall. Yeah, the lawyer chose wisely. Yeah, get the lawyer obviously Yeah, when you look at the making of that original movie, it's like there's a lot of It's kind of a miracle because like so little of it is actually CGI Like most of it's just puppets and shit like that and then they just like mixed in moments of CGI
Starting point is 01:00:43 Which is why so much CGI since then has been so fucked because everyone was like well they did Jurassic Park with CGI some some yeah they did some CGI was like yeah 70% amazing like the best in class practical effects we'd seen on film up to that point plus like some shading from the CGI. Yeah, it's like it's still fucking Stan Winston's genius that made that film possible. It's like his creatures, the Stan Winston creatures are like the fucking real engine of that movie visually. But our writer, J.M. McNabb, he's been on this for a while. Like that first, his theory is that Steven Spielberg even like made Jurassic Park in the first place because he gets a cut of Universal Studios money.
Starting point is 01:01:34 And he was like, this is going to be a sick ride. People are going to go to this. This is going to be like the best ride that I've ever made. And he also points out the like, the ride is based on that scene in the movie. So there's always a chance that Spielberg is pulling the strings here to be like, what if we did, we finally made the river raft ride? Yeah. Well, because then I guess his first bite of the apple would have been the ET adventure as a universal ride.
Starting point is 01:02:02 That's probably the thing that got him the deal where they're like, Hey man, if you want to like make some rides based on your movies, like we'll give you a cut of the gate at the parks and the ET ride was fine. I mean, they, the ET did say your name at the end. If it was in a name of a database of traditional names, a computer could say cause I remember, I remember going with my Japanese cousin, her name's Misako, and I'm Miles. In the beginning, they're like, say your name or you type it in.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And it was like, goodbye, Miles. And then my cousin, they're like, it's going to say your name, Misako. And it was like, just, it was just like, no. Did it say shit? Did it even try? They're like, does not compute better than... Yeah. Yeah, but... Calling her Martha or something.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Goodbye honey. Goodbye. Sweetheart. Goodbye. Yeah. But anyways, I don't know it. The rebirth subtitle is actually giving Friday, the 13th sequel where they made a Jason Dyes movie, and then we're already in production on the Jason Lives one. There's a cranking it out.
Starting point is 01:03:14 But a lot of the big action moments actually have dinosaurs coming out of the water, which reminds me of Jaws. I feel like it's giving Jaws. Oh, you love that. Scott Johansson is coming out of the water, which kind of reminds me of jaws. I feel like it's, it's giving jaws. Oh, you love that. Joe Hanson is like shooting one of the dinosaurs with like a spear gun, just like in jaws. So I saw that in the trailer, there was like that mega dinosaur that's like
Starting point is 01:03:36 flops out of the water next to that boat. And I was like, Oh my God. Wow. Oh wow. You said the dinosaur's name, like you're hanging out with your kids a bunch who probably – Did your kid sell a book for this? There's a cute children's book called Papasaurus. And one of the dinosaur friends that this kid is playing, this dinosaur kid is playing
Starting point is 01:03:57 hide and seek with his dad. And one of the dinosaurs he visits to ask if they've seen his dad is the Mosasaurus. Oh. And that Mosasaurus is a little nicer than the one in this trailer. Oh, thank you, dad Okay, so it's not scary. It's not scary I'll watch it But yeah, and you sorry did you say muscle source? Moser Moser, okay, I'm thinking like proteinasaurus or something. No. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:23 Okay. I'm thinking like proteinasaurus or something. No. Yeah. Yeah. Ripped. That's the creodactyl. I think there's some dactyls in this one. That is my favorite thing about the later movies. I guess they didn't really have the ability to add some dactyls. Yeah. To get just-
Starting point is 01:04:41 They're not technically dinosaurs. Get sucked up in the sky by a fucking pterodactyl, that's big money, bro. Sucked off into the sky. That's a fatality right there. Exactly. Fatality. All right. So, we do want to end on some good news.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And that is that according to a new study, the universe and everything in it will decay into nothingness way sooner than anyone expected. Oh, thank God. Oh, my God. That's the ideal thing. We all go together and we don't have to feel bad. So what is it like in like three weeks or what are we looking at? So fucking AI, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah, let it rip, dude. Let's Ghibli meme it up, man. I don't need a job. Fuck yeah. Fuck this dude alone. Before bearing on my loan. That's all good. Yeah. So they used to think it was going to be 10 to the power of 1100 years.
Starting point is 01:05:33 They used to think it was going to be 10 to the power of 1100 years, but now it's apparently going to be 10 to the power of 78 years. So one followed by 78 zeros. And that's soon? Sooner. So this is an issue. Yeah. By orders of magnitude, I guess.
Starting point is 01:05:50 78 and 1100. Ah, well. All right. Fine. I woke up a little earlier this morning. Once I read this news, I was like, I got some shit to do, man. I got to grind it out, dude. Add those, add that one extra hour. Carbs, man. I gotta grind it out, dude. Add that one extra hour.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Man, I'm cutting out curbs, dude. Yeah. I gotta get my affairs in order. You start talking like a grindset, dude. You're like, nah, dude, I saw that headline about the universe ending. I woke up an hour earlier, okay? Add that up over a week.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I've got a slight advantage over you. Add that up over a half a year. I definitely have. I've been doing about three weeks more worth of work than you have. Add that over 10 years, man. I'm gone. You wake up in the morning. I'm standing over you shredded shirtless. And guess what? And I'm the doctor. I just delivered you for birth. We started the clock over. That's how ahead of my time I am. Okay. Counting my money. Counting my Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Counting my money, counting my Bitcoin. That's an actual thing I saw on a YouTube short where guys like, you got to think of this way, man. I'm waking up with those two extra hours. I don't sleep yet. That he extrapolates that he's like, within three years, I've actually done seven lifetimes worth of work that you haven't. And you're like, no, you just sound sleep deprived. Like 35 companies.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. No, it's precisely. It's not kind of like just very loose logic. We're like, yeah, 35 companies. Yeah, no, it's precisely, and it's that kind of like just very loose logic. We're like, yeah, 35 companies. Uh, I've, I've bought way more crypto. I've lost like three teeth. All cause I started doing ice baths, man. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Right. But yeah, so this is because the universe will gradually decay due to Hawking radiation, uh, first proposed by Stephen Hawking, which involves particles and quantum fluctuations. And a bunch of stuff I totally understand about black holes that I'm not going to bore you guys with right now, even though, like I said, I understand it. It's just boring to you, to a mind like you. I can see how it would be boring. No, I'm pretty interested.
Starting point is 01:07:45 So like what can you kind of explain the quantum fluctuations? So that's all the time we have for today. Uh, it's kind of a shorter episode. Right. No, are you sure? Or like, what do you mean? What, what it all comes back to black holes is the thing you got to understand. And so we are black holes event horizon.
Starting point is 01:08:03 The intense gravitational field prevents annihilation. Obviously we all know that. Right? Sure. Do you ever be like a physicist or a scientist to have like something named after you? You know what I mean? I mean, unless you want to be generous, like unless somebody like wants to name it after me, what you know, when they're, which I would recommend.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The O'Brien bullshit scale? The whole bullshitometer. Dude, he's off the charts on the O'Brien scale. It's a 3.6 on the O'Brien. But basically, so the event horizon process that I was just describing that we all understand, over long time scales. Hawking's theory suggests, and this is just how I talk. I'm not quoting space.com here. Over the long time scales, Hawking's theory suggests this process causes the black hole to
Starting point is 01:08:56 slowly evaporate, eventually vanishing. And once that happens, all bets are off. Wow. So I'm just like, I'm like, how, but what would I experience? Like, do we all just like, like go to turn to dust, like some Thanos slap snap. But then I'm reading about how the end of the universe would cause a big crunch where everything's going and then that would set off another big bang. And we start the universe all over again. Kind of beautiful. Kind of, it'll like be a big crunch and then we'll realize we were just like some
Starting point is 01:09:27 particle in some other like vast thing. We're just like minuscule dust on the ass of some other thing. Fade to black. Fade to black and then a Bob Dylan song comes up. So. Hey, we want Mona, son, we want that. I was singing, but yeah. And the end And the universe.
Starting point is 01:09:46 You said that you and your wife sing, but other music and Bob Dylan's voice. What's the what's the best match you found there? Oh, man. Oh, God. I can't think of something else. Happy birthday to you. I don't know, maybe like some like Green Day. Right. I said, I'm going down R like green day. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I said, I'm going down Rodeo with my shotgun. With my shotgun. These people ain't seen a brown skin man. Just like, grandparents might want one. So now I'm running down Rodeo. Put the G-Wagon. I want the machines that are making them. Well, Shah Jahan Khan, such a pleasure having you on the daily. It's like guys, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Starting point is 01:10:35 Uh, on the one thing that I am on Instagram, I suppose I still use the, uh, the name that, you know, it's my name and maybe a little cultural reference Shahajistan, cause I'm, you know, I'm definitely the only one that's ever thought of something like that. S H A H J I S T A N and please for the love of God, watch Deli Boys so we can get a second season. I would love to be employed. Cause as I told you, my, my loans are in forbearance. So come on.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Um, I would love to keep being able to chip away at those. And also yes, watch, watch Aftermath on Netflix. I play an ethnically ambiguous action hero in a movie about terrorists where I am not a terrorist. So I won. Wow. There you go. In your face, Hollywood. In your face. Or also good job, Hollywood, I guess. Also, please hire me. Yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I will give a shout out to my friend, Kareem Rahma's Subway Takes. So good.
Starting point is 01:11:31 And specifically the episode featuring the creator of Delhi Boys, Abdullah Saeed, talking about how men are the most, the more emotional out of the two gender situation. Not that there's only, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I feel you. In the binary perspective. In the that there's only, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I feel you. In the binary perspective. In the binary world.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Thank you. Thank you, Miles. Miles. Huh? Where can people find you? And is there work immediate? You've been enjoying. Find me on the corner pushing dope with the dope boys. Rappers is talking to me as if we're in the same boat. I tell them quick. No, I move coke
Starting point is 01:12:09 Find me everywhere at miles of gray What else basketball podcast miles jack up man boosties as I just I fully morph into a Knicks fan, okay It's just yeah, baby. Oh, and I don't know shaw johana us l-tix fan. I know you from I don't watch sports in any way That's great Fantastic you are you have transcended and if I did I definitely would not watch Boston sports. All right good guy He was a good egg. I knew he's a good egg. But anyway, yeah Mazajac. I'm at Boosie's for NBA talk 420 day fiance for a 90 day fiance talk Yeah, I work in media. I'm like it. Yeah 420 day fiance for a 90 day fiance talk. Um, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I work at media. I'm like, is that the question? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How about that? Uh, this is from at invisible.beesky.social. I'll be saying explain yourself for every good morning I get tomorrow. Uh, I just like the idea of just clapping back immediately.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Um, and then, uh, the onion at the onion.com on blue sky posted Republican infighting erupts over whether Trump bill beautiful or handsome. I'd also love to shout out AM radio traffic on the threes. I'm loving that. Hell yeah. Great. I've got traffic on the threes. They've been doing it for a while now.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Fucking just up. I in the I've got the threes. They've been doing it for a while now. Mm-hmm. Fucking just up, eye in the sky. An eye in the sky? That is such a fucking grandiose name for what they're doing. Where your eye in the sky. You know that word that people made for God? That's us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Up here checking out traffic patterns. A work of media I've been enjoying, LBark at Frans Sherbet tweeted, me to my AI enabled smart fridge in 2038. Do we have any milk left? My fridge. Wow. Now that's a question worth exploring. By asking me something like that, you've proven that you're not thinking in ordinary ways.
Starting point is 01:14:03 You're dialed into what's really vital about food let's dive in like you fridge go back to ice boxes man hey Hawkins radiation could we knock this out by yeah I just did what my 2030 and called him Hawkins. Hey, Hawking. Hey, Brad Pitts and Steve Hawkins. Hey, it's like the Thunders versus the Pelican later. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack Obi the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:14:43 You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song you think people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah. I encounter a lot of interesting music on TikTok because my algorithm is mostly like interesting music, but then my algorithm is mostly like
Starting point is 01:15:05 interesting music, but then also trends that are happening there. There's so many people I've seen just dancing to this slow down version of Sam Gallatry's Assumptions and just doing a ballroom dance to it. Whatever. That's the TikTok trend, but there's actually an amazing K-Tronada remix of Assumptions by Sam Gallatrey. And that's the, that's the track I want to go out on. It's the assumptions Caitranada edit of Sam Gallatrey's or Gallatry's assumptions.
Starting point is 01:15:35 G-E-L-L-A-I-T-R-Y. Anyway, search Caitranada assumptions. It's going to come up and it's a banger. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.
Starting point is 01:15:52 We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Goodbye. The Daily Zyte Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long. Co-produced by Bae Wang. Co-produced by Victor Wright.
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