The Daily Zeitgeist - $upreme ¢ourt, Woke Disney Or Price Gouging? 07.20.23

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

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A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And this Thursday, July 20th, 2023. Yeah, you know what that means. It's World Jump Day. That doesn't mean jumping somebody. I think just like to jump up for joy or some shit. Yeah. It's also International Chess Day, National Fortune Cookie Day.

Hey, how y'all doing up there? Because it's National Pennsylvania Day. Get to know your customers day. National Moon Day, National Lollipop Day. There you go. I feel like there's too many National Lollipop Days. Or maybe there's just similar things that are honored. It feels like every 17 days is National Lollipop Day.

It's National Lollipop Day. I'm saying National Lollipop Day. Competing national lollipop competing national lollipop days all right well my name's jack o'brien aka here come old white thighs he come chewing up slowly he sip baja blast y'all he sip diet cola he got plumpers down before his knees Got to be our Jackie Just potatoes OB That is courtesy of the ravioli god A little come together by the Beatles About my legs

And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Oh man, actually I have a question And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, man. Actually, I have a question. Did I ever do the Grimace House of the Rising Sun, a.k.a.? I don't know. Or was it just in my mind? If not, if so, it's worth it.

I'm doing it because I thought of it, and I don't know if I did, and maybe I'm just misremembering, but here's one I've been thinking of in the shower. There once was a drink at McDonald's. They say it's Grim is Come. And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy. And God, I know I'm one. Shout out to my brain. Did I do that one?

I don't think so. Okay. It's too perfect for me not to have remembered it i had to come back around on the grimace shake sorry that was the last one i swear to god your last time you heard me say grimace come i don't know maybe until a few days but anyway that's me that's you they do say it's grimace come well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a writer director podcast host of the very funny show crimes of the heart it's rory i don't have a song oh oh that's all right okay that's fine here we'll walk you through it what's

your favorite karaoke by hansen bob okay um see there it is i was kidding I just really thought that that would be so hard to work with in and up hold you're gone I just turned into Scooby Doo there was that rut rut you did yeah I don't know why

it's just when you try and do shooby dop dop oh man it's Thursday you guys we are still surviving all the strikes on strikes on strikes on strikes. Strikes on strikes on strikes. So many strikes.

We do have a development in the tree shade scandal. Part of me was like, maybe it's a coincidence. I don't know. They do cut the like part of me was like, maybe it's a coincidence. I don't know. They do cut the shit out of trees in LA sometimes. There will be a street with beautiful trees.

I get that. And then suddenly it'll look like it's going off to ship off to the military. But it is no accident. They did that shit on purpose. Illegally. Illegally, without a permit permit the execs were up there like on ladders just cutting it down yeah really just dark nice shit yeah nice try assholes if we ever doubted whether or not that deadline article where whoever was quoted saying like we just need

to break them but we're gonna like bleed them dry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, for Christmas. Now I'm like, oh, well, that definitely seems a lot more accurate now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They tried. That was a shot across the bow, but, you know, the resolve of the workers will not be broken. Nope.

Yeah. Deal with that. Hold that. I was waiting for them to be like, all right, so that didn't come off great, so let's change our tack let's like come up with a new strategy a new approach a new personality but it turns out they only have one personality and it's cutting down trees and telling people that they're going to starve them out and cancel christmas that's that's just who they are yeah yeah that's what we do you

know so great there's a reason that movie writers and directors have been able to create so many good villains over the years because they worked for a bunch of them yeah so true rory where uh where are you coming to us from silver lake oh should i not have gotten that specific it's up to you yeah unless you don't want to you can just say the east side i'm on the east side where silver lake is no it's it's fine. I'm in Silver Lake. Yeah, yeah. We already did it. It's done. Have you been to Universal since the trees were cut or no?

No, no, no. I think they were cut like two days ago. I need to get down there because I'm in both unions. So I need a sign for each hand. Yeah, right. I feel, yeah, my heart goes out to the Doolies out there. We're in both. We've been down since May and now. I know, it's crazy. It's really crazy, but

look, shit has to change. My friends in the writers grilled. My friends in the writers grilled. Yeah, what is that? The writers grilled? It can turn into a grill. That just made me think that we're all in a comic book. I don't know why, but it was like grill and guild and i just felt like now we're all superheroes i'm into it yeah yeah my

mouth is working today it's spitting apples and fucking up words but they're saying that the protests have gotten much more theatrical and entertaining and musical there's yeah like music has entered the that's what you get with the actor and the performers come yeah the performers are here turning it's it's like uh that toby mcguire movie where everything goes from black and white to color oh uh what is it not pleasant where there are no people of color at all exactly just so you remember i was i remember seeing that in the theaters and my friends were like yo and then i was like yo what the fuck is oh and no still good yeah it was like in the late 90s so no one had that kind of media consciousness except for me like the one like

kid of color and i was like yo this is fucking bad yeah that oh man that is it's shameful to well i don't know that i even that movie really made a dent on my radar. I mean, I remember it coming out, but I don't, I mean, I think I was kind of like, oof, not great. Like, I don't know that I loved it. So I don't know that I would have really clocked that, but. Yeah. Well, I think the way, the only time it like really reemerged was recently on the other two when they had that like thematic episode that was all pleasantville-esque when he's trying to like bring life back to all the actors of that procedural show he was on yeah wild anyway we

yeah not great not great how's that sandwich jack what are you eating uh an apple miles i'm still still working away at a cosmic crisp apple which pretty good apples. I have an apple tree and it is like crazy right now. But mine are so small. They're like little apples. Have you checked the stickers on them to see what kind they are? Yeah.

Punching the SKU number? It wasn't... Oh, God. I'm sad that I laughed at that because I feel like it's like a dad joke and I encouraging that no but it shouldn't but it got me it got me it's on an espalier vine do you know what those are nope so my apple tree looks like a vine that goes up a wall but it's a tree and when it was first i'm gonna say born but i mean planted it i got it and it was a little tree ling and it had three branches and each branch was a different type of apple

anyway i'm the fuck a nerd and i thought that was so cool some willy wonka shit one tree there's like three kinds of apples i know i know i i i didn't really ask questions just because i was so excited and now i have like all these different apples and i just pick one and then i'm like oh i guess it's a granny smith or oh i guess this is uh whatever but they're just teeny tiny they're tiny so the only problem is is that sometimes i take a bite and i hit the core. Right. I mean, just bite halfway through it. Yeah. Doctor says my arsenic levels are off the charts.

I don't think it's from eating all the apple seeds, though. All right, Rory, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about more Supreme Court fuckery. We're going to talk about the real reason Disney World is empty. The story is going wild on the right. more Supreme Court fuckery. We're going to talk about the real reason Disney World is empty. The story is going wild on the right. And they're like, ha-ha, we're winning the war against woke Disney.

We're going to debate whether you're allowed to wear shorts on a plane. I don't know if I ever had a thought about this, but I don't think I generally do because it gets cold up there. But we'll talk about it yeah all of that plenty more but first rory uphold we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are my search history is chaotic and just like so i looked at it and was like oh this screams help me I was looking up asexuality, the difference between attraction and desire, but I was also looking at STI rates in America and non-toxic condoms. Okay. So asexuality, STI rates, non-toxic. Wait, so wait, what are toxic condoms? Most condoms are owned by the,

most condom companies are owned by the same five companies and if you get a box you'll notice that it doesn't have ingredients listed on them but they do have ingredients they're just not required to which is really crazy and a lot of the ingredients are harmful irritating or in some cases toxic i didn't know that. I do all this research for the show that I have, and I just interviewed these ladies who have a non-toxic condom company, and I had the same reaction. I said, I'm sorry, what? Right, right, right. I've been with a toxic dude or two, but I didn't realize I was- The condoms as well. Yeah yeah that seems like something i can control

so yeah things like parabens or preservatives like why would a condom have preservatives for the flavor keep it fresh okay shelf you're not wrong stable yeah you're not wrong right is it but but if it's just if you just have like just latex and just silicone. Right, right, right. You don't need those other things. Right. So what is it preserving exactly? The patriarchy. No, no, no.

Deadass. That's really what it is. It's like, I don't know. It doesn't fuck the guy up. Yeah, basically. It's just like all those memes about like, is he worth risking your pH over this? It's like, no don't know. It doesn't fuck the guy up. Yeah, basically. So we're good over here. It's just like all those memes about like, is he worth risking your pH over this? It's like, no, that's really accurate. Right.

Yeah. Truly. Oof. I know. So anyway, that's how I spend my time. There you go. What is, what's something you think is overrated? Summer.

Wow. Go on. Summer. Man. So as an adult, like what does summer even mean? It's not like we get to take a break. Right. Right.

That part. It's just hotter. It's hot as fuck, which is just like not my vibe. People listening don't know, but I am goth white. And. Are you from Canada as well? I'm yeah. I'm American and Canadian.

Yeah. But I just like truly just, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck with the sun. Yeah. Yeah. But I just like truly just, you know, in that book with the sun. Yeah, yeah. And it's so hot. That is a strike against you as if Canadian people can. I remember offhandedly reading that you were.

You were like, what's wrong with her? Which I have like, I used to be like a sun baby. Like I used to be so, so, so, so, so tan. And then I moved to Michigan for high school. And then I became like really, really pale. And it's been that way ever since. But I also think I don't have kids, but for the people that are working that have kids now, they're just not in school. I'm like, summer actually kind of sucks. Also there's this like pressure to be hot in the summer.

And I'm like, that doesn't really align with who I am on the inside. So I repeat this. I feel like Halloween is more my vibe. Winter is more my vibe. Winter is definitely my, like, I say this all the time. I don't have clothes for the summer. I only have clothes for the winter because I like, I like how I like winter clothes more than like wearing shorts and shit. Because I can just wear the same three pairs of shorts the whole summer. That's how I kind of look at summer.

like wearing shorts and shit because i can just wear the same three pairs of shorts the whole summer that's how i kind of look at summer and then like when i go out to shit i'm like oh i don't have like cool people clothes for the summer at all unless i pull up like a basketball jersey and like soccer shorts yeah which those are cool basketball jersey soccer shorts i was just gonna say we're just out of as a friend um where are we going in that outfit i just want to help you i don't know i don't like it's like mr child is that chill they let me in like this just shoot me a text on the side i might have some suggestions okay cool cool cool yeah but yeah i agree i don't know dude how do jack how do you feel about about summer? Summer is just more, yeah, you're right. It's the same, except way hotter, way more uncomfortable, way fewer clothing options.

And then as somebody who does have kids who are school age, it just, school gets replaced by either them hanging around or having to drop them at camp, which is just school, but with shorter hours and like a drop-off routine that nobody has figured out. And then like the, by the time you get it figured out, it's the, the camp is over.

So it's, it's not great. That's not great. You gotta get them in an arts camp, man. Yeah. You know, send them off.

Yeah. You know, like you're learning piano. It's not great. You got to get them in an arts camp, man. Yeah. You know? Send them off. Arts camps. Yeah. You know, like you're learning piano. That's it. Go. I wish I was forced to keep up with the piano. Yeah. I mean, you're a musician, though.

Do you like noodle a little bit, like with your keyboard? No. This is so sad, but I'm going to share it anyway. I used to be really good at the piano because my grandmother taught me how to play the piano. And so I could play by ear. And then when my grandmother died, I like just never touched a piano again. Oh no.

I know. I know. It's like such a bummer story, but it's the truth. That's like me. I haven't played word with words with friends. And he could play that by ear. Sorry.

Are you serious? I was just talking about that. Yeah. She used to put like, not that like, here's another tragedy. and he could play that by ear sorry are you serious i was just talking about that yeah she used to put like not that like here's another tragedy i don't know if you ever watched the real world road rules challenge yeah but when when dm passed away from cancer i stopped watching the show yeah and then i only came back three years ago but like i know when we have these moments or like there's some a loss can like kind of punctuate our totally yeah yeah yeah

so oh sorry so yeah perfect pitch and everything and you wow i mean that's a that's a good skill to you know to refine it well i mean now it's so much harder it's like trying to learn a language later in life yeah yeah for sure i get it but yeah you have some songwriting in your background right i do yeah yeah yeah i do i started i dropped out of college because i got a record deal And you have some songwriting in your background, right? I do. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I started, I dropped out of college because I got a record deal. And I guess. It's a crazy story because I went to one of those like open calls and I won. So I guess that part is kind of weird.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Like American Idol, except without the TV cameras. yeah without the idol right um it was just i guess me it's american rory right right and it was rough like i love music i think it's the most pure art form because it's the only art form where you get to attach meaning. Like you can, music is the soundtrack to some of the most like profound moments in our life.

But if you're watching like a movie or you're reading a book, you're seeing the images that other people have created and you can attach meaning to it, but it's not with you. Like there are songs that I can't listen to because they will just literally make me cry because they just take me back right to that moment right yeah yeah i can't think of any other artistic medium that does that no not artistically the only thing that like could potentially make me like emotional is like a smell you know like that kind of like a sense memory that is attached to like a like a smell or something from like a place or something but yeah music is definitely like that where like you hear a song and like your mind just starts going yeah yeah but it got really toxic for me the business side got so ugly and i had to deal with the music industry i know it's it's shocking

i just watched the idol and it sounds like it's tougher for the guys okay well the idol feels like that was like a weird fever coke dream right right yeah yeah I definitely wasn't in that but I did just tell the story on a I did a podcast and I did talk about how I was on tour with this guy and I was about to do the biggest performance that i'd done because it was like 5 000 people at a six flags during the summer fuck summer fuck summer yeah summer and he in the sprinter on the way there in front of i was the only woman in the car said hey i think that um we should fuck so that we have like real chemistry on stage. Oh, no. Wow. And my mind thought, I can think of 4,562 other things I would rather do. But instead, I said, I'm going to keep my job.

And I said, I don't think you can handle me. Which was like a kind of semi-flirty way of saying, let's not and pretend that we did. Right, right. And then right before we went on stage, he turned to me and he just said, don't fuck up. I can go on stage and fuck up

because they're here to see me. But if you go on stage, you'll ruin the show. Jesus Christ. And I was so scared, you guys. Holy shit. So scared. And I was in like six inch heels

with like 30 pounds of fake hair. I mean, it was just, yeah, that, that definitely would be a moment where you begin to be like, this is not what I wanted to do at all. Yeah. And that like, wasn't even bad to have. Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, that wasn't even bad. I just, I was like, right. But you're in that moment too, or like you're sort of, someone is trying to put all the forces at work like right in front of you about being like yeah and here's here are the stakes for you yeah yeah so i just chose like a way safer easier path and got into film and tv there you go exactly what is something you think is underrated underrated well okay this is so nerdy but it's in theme with like me not loving summer i have this mesh magnetic sun shield that i put up

in the window of my car okay so it blocks the sunlight because a lot of people have skin damage or sun damage on the left side of their face. Yeah, like those truckers. But I don't because I have this like really thin mesh black, like you put the magnets go on the metal sides of your window. And so it cuts 50% of the sunlight. Wow. Okay. It cuts 50% of the sunlight. Wow.

Okay. Now, I remember the first time I saw that was like, I think it was like early internet where they're like, look at these faces of truck drivers and the left side of their face. And that's like the most extreme example where it's like these dudes who have never heard of sunblock at all. It's like a blend of a before after picture, but just in the same picture. Oh yeah, like it's truly some two-faced shit. Yeah, yeah. Where it's truly some two-faced shit yeah yeah where it's like down the like almost like hemispherically you saw like here's the sun

side and here's that side that didn't get cooked and summer versus winter yeah yeah that's right exactly uvs are all around though year round though you know just just a psa you know they are they are and i am obsessed with sunscreen i get all my sunscreen from like Korea or Japan or Australia, even though Australia is illegal. I wear driving gloves. Oh, yes. You just you are just like my Japanese mother. Honestly, she sounds like a queen. She had. Yes, she was wearing like big sun hats with like the V Stiviano face shield. Yeah, I have that too. face shield like yeah back in like back in like 1990 and i and where and back then they didn't have driving gloves like in the u.s like how they were selling them in japan so she would wear golf

gloves as like her so she had these like white leather golf gloves my my friends thought she was like a drug addict she like picked this up like what the fuck is up with her i'm like bro you don't understand man she's that's why she's going to look like 20 years younger. Exactly. And now everybody's probably like, is your mom in her forties? Yeah. People like are blown away when I tell people my mom's like inert. I won't say your age, mom, but they're blown away. Yeah.

Yeah. She already sounds stunning. She takes care of her skin. She knows the same thing. That fair skin. You know what I mean? You got to take care. Yeah.

I don't know. I just, I like, um, that's one of my passions outside of, you know, the same thing, that fair skin, you know what I mean? You got to take care. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I like, um, that's one of my passions outside of, you know, sex and relationships. Like I'm obsessed with skincare. Well, it's the largest organ in our body. Thank you. So, I mean, I don't, I don't know. Like when we talk about like self-love and self-care, I feel like that's a really good, great place to start. And now it's habitual for me, but I do think like if you can build in a routine, even if it's small, it's that time that you're basically saying like, I love you and I'm taking care of you. And is this really hokey?

I only recently started using like moisturizer with a little bit of SPF in it. For the longest time, I'm like, I'm good. I'm black and Asian. Look at this skin, baby. It ain't going nowhere. Honestly, it's probably not. But then other people were like, but hold up. They're like,

if you really want to start time traveling, though, like if you start taking care of your shit like this, then like whatever. And for the longest time, I had this really weird idea like in my mind that like,

you know, it's really toxic shit. Like, you know, I'm a man. man like i don't have to fucking do this kind of shit and i was like this is stupid because i have a i fucking skin like everybody and once i just got this little you know get out the shower whatever start my day put my little face moisturizer on you know i feel i feel good yeah but okay so now you've been doing it right does it make you feel like a little more accomplished or like that you are taking an extra step to just like love yourself or respect yourself in any way you can honestly say no if it's no i mean it's not that like i think of it explicitly as like self-love or anything like that but it feels like i'm being responsible to the vessel that my spirit is embodying you know what i mean like i'm being responsible to the vessel that my spirit is embodying.

You know what I mean? Like I'm taking care of my spaceship. There you go. Yes. Speaking of spaceships, my wife has like one of the face shields that looks like Darth Vader's mask. And I never feel more like I'm in the future than when she is rolling around with one of those.

Oh yeah. Obsessed. Where does she wear it? Basically when she is rolling around with one of those oh yeah obsessed where does she wear it uh basically when she's driving around when she's out out of doors during the summer yeah on a walk and again that skin immaculate looking good yeah yeah i have a couple of those they look like uh i'm like kind of in like daft punk yeah it's daft punk yeah yeah yeah but like the'm like kind of in like Daft Punk yeah yeah but like the county fair cover band version yeah a hundred a hundred yeah yeah I went on a hike in Tahoe wearing one and I swear to god people thought I was famous just because it was like right they were like who is this psycho with a shield on right I think that's just me i think they should lean into

those and those should come with like a little voice mod or something like that so it sounds like you're like you know speaking through like auto-tune or something just to like have like a little like red like light display at the bottom that like makes it seem like your kit from night rider right right yes yeah yes love it all right well we're gonna take a quick break to that makes it seem like your kit from Knight Rider. Right, right, right. Yes. Yes. Love it. All right. Well, we're going to take a quick break to beat out the finer points of that idea

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Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way

we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back and these these supreme court justices it's equal opportunity fuckery it would you know this is a thing so it's not it's not left or right, you know, at the end of the day in D.C. Because in D.C., everybody's doing the most. Everybody's trying to get there. You know what I mean? And there's a story about Justice Sonia Sotomayor that cropped up last week, but was drowned out due to the cacophony that is D.C. news.

And while people were obviously rightfully focused on like Justice Thomas and Harlan Crowe and Alito and Paul Singer, Justice Sotomayor was also in a bit of controversy, although it is legal. I'll preface it with that. So the AP reported that for years her staffers have been doing like a full court press on public institutions to buy hundreds, if not thousands of copies of her books. Like you're like, you need to buy these right now. You want to go speak at that college? You want to go speak at the college? You better buy 10,000 copies of this fucking book. The library better be made of these books. The walls should be just these books.

We don't care if anyone's reading them. It was described as often the implicit price of a speaking appearance by Sotomayor at a law school or a library. And as a result, she's earned a $3.7 million advance from her memoir. And during her 14 years on the Supreme Court, she's made just about as much money from her books as her government salary, which is around $285K a year. Michigan State University spent $100,000 to buy the memoir with copies sent to the Supreme Court

for autographing before Sotomayor spoke on campus in 2018. And then when she was going to speak at like an event in Portland, Oregon, like for like a book, a kid's book she was promoting, this quote, an anxious Supreme Court aide wrote to a local library, quote, is there a reminder going out that people need to purchase a book at the event or bring a book to get into the signing line? Most of the registrants did not purchase books so you know this is legal but like wow i mean like everybody is hustling up there huh like i think it's definitely not the job of a supreme court staffer to shake down bookstores and universities for fucking change i mean i think it's literally the job of a publicist, isn't it? Right. They're just like

interns, like media interns. This person who graduated at the top of their like, you know, one of the top law schools in the land graduated at the top of their class. And three months later, they're like, hey, I'm going to need you to buy more of those books because this is a bad look for me. Like when I graduated at the top of Georgetown, I didn't think I was going to need you to buy more of those books because this is a bad look for me. When I graduated the top of Georgetown, I didn't think I was going to be harassing librarians across the United States. It better be the second edition. If people pull up with the first edition, they're not getting it. It is what it is. There's a typo on page 42.

Now, again, this is like I said, it's legal. And the other thing that's wild is, right, Supreme Court justices make $285,400 per year. And they retire at full pay. So you're like, isn't this... You know what I would have done? I would have done one fucking year in the Supreme

Court and I would have retired with that. You know what I mean? I'm like, alright, give me that. Not for me. Has anyone ever done the not for me? Like the Pope did that one time? I don't like, yeah, I'm not going to do this. The German Pope did? Yeah, the German Pope. Wasn't there some controversy too? Anyway, so again, you're kind of thinking like, isn't this enough? People point out that Justice Souter, who she replaced, doesn't do shit. He's taking his retirement. He lives in New Hampshire and that's it. That's it. He's not doing anything else. He lives in New Hampshire and that's it. Like, that's just that's it.

He's not doing anything else. And again, this is pretty much the norm at the Supreme Court since like earning book money isn't explicitly prohibited. So that's why a lot of them do it. Clarence Thomas is like raked in a million dollars from book pursuits. Neil Gorsuch has brought in nine hundred thousand dollars since he joined the court in 2017. But Amy Coney Barrett, she signed a two million dollar book deal in 2021 so killing it because cults are super popular oh yeah oh yeah except they're like can you please blow the door open the lid off the cult you're in she's like no no i'll talk around it is the cult in the room with us right now and this pales in comparison obviously to the shit going on with

clarence thomas and alito but it helps to like serve as a reminder of what is motivating people up there it's been clear for some time that dc is no longer a place where people go to legislate like on behalf of constituents it's a place where you go to get rich you think about how many of these fucking people especially in, were making money off of stocks after getting a COVID briefing. They were like, oh yeah, okay, we got to do all this because we got some information before the market does. And it's now at a point where

even people that traditionally we were perceiving as these ideological purists are also people that are just watching everyone around them get rich on Capitol Hill and they start just thinking, okay, yeah, I'm having that. And yeah, it shouldn't be so surprising now. It's just not enough to be powerful.

Wealth is also what makes the world go round. That's why we're in the labor strike. And I don't just mean Hollywood. I mean just everywhere. Because I think people, regardless of party, are like, you know what? I don't think I want. I mean, just everywhere. Like that's because I think people, regardless of party are like, you know what? I don't think I want to be busting my ass while people at the top are just kind of like swapping millions back and forth. Forcing me to buy their book so that I can see them speak. I don't even read, guys.

You gotta buy all four books. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's such a bummer. It's, I don't know. It's dark. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's such a bummer. It's, I don't know, it's dark. Yeah. And again, I think, but it helps, you know, to kind of begin to jettison like this idea that these people are in it for anything other than themselves.

Or, you know, I get that some people are trying to do right. But what the mainstream up there is people realize when you work on the hill, you work in DC in any capacity. That means that gives you can, you can turn that into a very lucrative career. And a lot of people do it while they are in office. While most, you know,

once they leave office or whatever, then they can turn that into a sweet consulting deal or some shit. Yeah. I used to be really involved in politics. I stepped off of two boards in the last couple of years. I don't want to say too much, but I guess what I will say is I did it for my mental health because things started to just what you're talking about.

And also feeling like every day it was life or death. And I was like, you know what? I can't take this on anymore. I have to start like creating some boundaries in my life because it truly was ruining my mental health. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I worked in, I was a lobbyist for a number of years and I fucking gave that up.

Oh, so you know. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. And I was just like, nah, I'm done. I'll do comedy. Same thing. I was like, I'd rather be, I think comedy is better. At least these psychos come with jokes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we saw this with a private equity story, like when we kind of dove deep into the private equity industry, like how many of those kind of invisible companies that are massive and basically control how business is done in this country form like names you recognize because of their jobs either in the trump administration or in the obama administration right they're they're all employing the same like business managers and you know investors they're not there's not like one for liberal people with good you know good intentions i think they're all kind of have the same strategist working to like build their personal wealth. Probably.

This is like, it kind of goes back to, I don't know how you guys feel about this, but if I walk into a party and there are people I don't fuck with at that party, I still don't fuck with them. I don't care that we're at the same party. And I'm not saying that you have to be rude or whatever but i truly do have like a line that i follow and it's just kind of how i lead my life so when i see people who have said awful things to each other or they uh hold diametrical like opposing views and then they're chopping it up laughing whatever i'm like are you so this is all is a joke. This is just like a ruse. Right, right, right. Because if I said something highly offensive about one of you, and then we ran into each other at coffee,

I would expect you to be like, I don't see you. Right, right. You're invisible to me. But no, we're making money, baby. You know what that means? Hey, good to see you. You know, that was great. You know, those shots you fired, that was cool.

You know, I'm coming back too. I got a book coming out. Good to see you you know that was great you know those shots you fired that was cool you know i'm coming back to got a book coming out good to see you and then they'll have the same agent yeah yeah that's what happens yeah all right let's uh take another quick break and we'll be right back to talk disney world and other bullshit. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career,

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We're back. And all right. So there have been countless breathless reports about how attendance at disney parks has plummeted in recent weeks apparently nobody is at disney world uh which is so empty this summer uh-huh so just some headlines from cnn nobody was there what's behind the summer slump at disney world in the universal studios why disney world is so empty this summer. Disney World hasn't felt this empty in years. The Wall Street Journal. And so, of course, Ron DeSantis, right wing outlets are attributing this to Disney's woke agenda. And Breitbart argued the fact that Disney has openly embraced grooming is a factor, which is like not even whatever.

Yeah, I get it. Yeah. Right. I mean, first of all, we don, we actually don't know how many people. This is all based on, like, you can look at the lines in Disney World and be like, Oh, yeah, like the wait times? Yeah, wait times. Oh, so it's all anecdotal.

It's anecdotal and based on wait times. So, I mean, one thing that's even in the people who are giving actual thought to this, they're not mentioning the fact that we're going through an unprecedented heat wave right now. Or a recession. Yeah. Recession, heat wave, none of those things could be affected. Hey, Joe Byron said it's not. Yeah. And those unemployment numbers look great, unless you have a job and you're like, well, why do I need three of them? So yeah, I mean, even the Wall Street Journal is acknowledging

that the real reason, and this should be surprising to no one who's actually taken two seconds to think about this, is capitalism. Oh, okay. Disney has been jacking up their prices. They eliminated free amenities and a lot of people are pissed

or have simply been priced out of going. They raised the cost of their theme park tickets twice in 2022 alone. They were like, yeah, we're going to do that again. It wasn't enough. You guys weren't paying enough. And there's actually a really good chart that our writer, Jan, put in the story of just what the pricing looks like over the past 50 years. Compared to wages? of just what the pricing looks like over the past 50 years. And like-

Compared to wages? Yeah, compared to national average wage index. And up until the early 80s, it was like kind of at the same level. And then, you know, mid 80s, it starts taking off. And then over the last five, 10 years, it has just, it's no longer like a curve. It's just a line that goes straight up. Like, yeah, it looks like it's going directly upwards.

It looks like a drawing of like the state of Idaho. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You know, it's like the tip of West Virginia. Right. Exactly. The fuck is that?

What happened there? It's called greed. Yeah. It's wild though, too, because man Right. Exactly. What the fuck is that? What happened there? It's called greed. It's wild, though, too, because, man, I remember when I was a kid, Disneyland was some shit you could go to. You know what I mean? Especially if you're a Southern California resident. I remember the commercials were like $39, which was not cheap in the 90s, but still nowhere near now where it's like like you got like 190 on you

39 that's not even you can't even go to the movies for that now right you can't park at the movies real real yeah for real but the really fucked up thing is that this is actually part of disney's plan like they're raising their prices to price people out because they want attendance to drop because they make more money that way because with like it's not like nobody's going it's just slightly fewer people come like the thing that we're looking at is like the lines are usually an hour and a half at this time but they're actually slower you know they, they're in the reasonable range. That allows more people to do more things when they're there.

It's only very rich people who can go, who can like pay the price of admission. It allows those really rich people to just have more physical space to operate. And the thing that they do when they're in those parks is spend just shit loads of money wow yeah i love that they got their whole island per capita spending like yeah that's the model it's not yeah that's all they talk about in their earnings calls is per capita spending

and that's like they actually discovered this accidentally during the pandemic that like the parks were much more sparsely attended and when they were per capita spending just shot up. And so they were like, oh, well. Holy shit. It's like they buy eight more churros when there's less people. So many churros. Honestly,

if nobody's watching, I would eat more churros too. Yeah, I love churros. Okay, question though. Does Disney still have the death grip on kids that it did when we were growing up? It does. It does. Because they have Star Wars that like you don't have a lot of options. I mean, you have like universe like you have the the minions.

But that's also the fucked up thing. Like, I don't have to be rooting for the fucking minions and universal. Yeah. Yeah. No minions. Those are our options. Yeah. It's done to us to us i mean but you think about too right people fucking go into debt to go into disneyland yeah you know what i mean because like it for the longest time has been dangled in front of american families as sort of like the pinnacle of family vacations it's like we're going to

disney world we're going to disneyland and when you add up flights hotel food multiple days there like that's that shit is not cheap and that's what's like so odd that their strategy is like not even to like keep keep the park to be like this place where you know like many people want to go and are able to and i'm like now man we got to keep these broke motherfuckers out because they're not spending enough. The hottest club in LA is now Disneyland. Seriously.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're going to add velvet ropes. Yeah. And bouncers. I tried to get a dole whip by the Jungle Cruise ride, but they said my ratios were all fucked up

when I was in line. I wasn't on the list. Yeah. They're like, nah, man, you need some more females bro my mom oh man that would really that would really set uh the right off yeah right yeah but yeah i travel with a lot of girls it turns out uh no it and speaking of dole whips it doesn't

receive as much attention but like everything within the parks has gotten way more expensive. They've just been quietly upping the prices of their merchandise. Sometimes what one item has reportedly doubled in racing years. Yeah. Well, I guess a bunch of items have doubled in racing years. And yeah, it's just fucked up. It's the whole point of what they're doing. They're doing it on purpose this is not surprising to them when they see the the shorter lines it's just kind of

if the whole fucking if conservatives weren't so fucking obsessed with like gay bashing and shit right now they'd have like an argument that would have a more populist appeal by saying do you understand what disney is doing to people right now? Yeah. They are trying to fuck you over and they are trying to ring you out for every single fucking dollar you have because that benefits them as a business. But because they're also like of that mindset,

they're like, Oh, it's cause it's cause they're woke. Oh, and I can't, there's no way I could articulate that what they're doing is price gouging because that's what that's kind of the norm right now. And we're not the party of calling that out. I truly get it. You know, like, do I think it's cool that you're prioritizing your bank account over the rights of other human beings?

No, that's just not my vibe because I'm not evil. But when people when the majority of the party that doesn't actually qualify for those tax breaks or any of that try to claim that this is the party that sees them i'm like how yeah well they see their grievances with you know like racial equity or other societal you know movements towards equity that are happening around them they're like yeah man we think that's fucked up too and they're like okay okay i like that i like that well then let's talk about the fact that california new york basically subsidized most of the middle of the country yeah i mean that's the thing i think this is all part of the the chaos of like living in this country especially and and like and having to toil non-stop yeah just you'll people don't get a break to fucking like wait for the dust to settle and like look around them and when they did in the beginning like at the at the start of the

pandemic people were like oh shit they're figuring it out. Make them go back to work. Yeah. So it's, yeah, that's true. It's hard. It's hard.

It's hard out here. It is hard out here for all of us. All right. And finally, let's talk about what's on everyone's mind. Are you allowed to wear shorts on a plane? No. Okay.

So, okay. Interesting. I'm not, I'm not here to say one way or the other but apparent this is most people seem to be of the belief that you can only wear pants on a plane and this debate has only sparked up recently because of all the heat that like people are experiencing people like anecdotally talking about how they're stuck on a tarmac in a plane with like no air conditioning and how hot it is and they're like fuck i'm wearing jeans in here like what the fuck am i doing other people are like i will wear shorts because when i get off the plane i'm going somewhere hot and i don't want to be wearing

pants i want to acclimate quickly well the people who say you cannot wear shorts the main argument just seems to be about hygiene they're like yo, yo, planes are fucking gross. Yeah. So don't get your legs on nothing in there. I'm, I get why, like, when I've been hot on a plane before and I'm like, fuck, why am I wearing, like, if I wore shorts, this would have been better. But I also get, to Jack, to your point,

cold up there. It gets cold up there. I guess it's one of those things. Personally, I've always worn pants, but I've never, I've never batted an eye at someone that wore shorts on a plane no neither have i but i just want it to be controversial yeah so and i think optically pants just look better that's like what larry david said in curb oh you

know there's like there's a scene in curb where larry's talking about wearing like not wearing shorts on a plane and he's like yeah bare legs yeah not the most not the most appealing thing to look at no they're not the most appealing thing to look at also like i'm just like super neurotic and this idea that like if the plane goes down and i survive which magical thinking but i want to have pants on just so that my legs don't get scraped yeah yeah you know okay tie know. Okay. Tie the bottom of your pants. Turn it into a flotation device. You ever heard of that? Hundo P. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Totally. Have you. I saw a thing on. I think it was like 2020. Like in the 90s.

About fires. Fire hazards on planes. I'm obsessed with your memory. I don't know if people point that out. But like you've got an incredible. I. Recall. I talk about this all the time.

It's chock full of dumb shit that i i don't know if gift and a curse you know yeah you know it is what it is i don't even remember my own son's name i call i called him i called him torin this morning that's not even the fuck was that uh but like in a name on it it's a great name uh but on on this thing they were talking about how like people who wear hosiery like because this was how in the 90s it was. They're like, hosiery will melt to your skin in the event of an electrical anything and give you terrible fucking burns. That's why cotton pants are the safest thing to wear on an airplane in the event of some kind of fire, heat, whatever. And I was like like ever since that

i've been like oh my god because i remember seeing this thing where they like melted like like you know synthetic hosiery to like a mannequin's leg and they're like that's what the fuck will happen i was like it was really wild in the 90s but by the way just as like a tip to anybody listening that does have kids or is an adult that might be accident prone if you ever do get burned the thing you're supposed to do is immediately strip down take all of the clothing off and run that spot under 20 minutes of continuous cool water oh okay just so you know and also also call nine with one get a napulis that's better than what i had i butter it up i butter it up like i'm about to

lay a couple bacon strips on there and let god do its thing no you need to stop the burn oh okay see they didn't talk about this in the 2020 episode well maybe but since then but since then i also have the same thing of like when i put pants on like i ain't getting burned on up on that exactly exactly so i guess we all bring our own neuroses onto our clothing choices yeah yeah jack what about you it's just purely for the cold yeah i just i think it's purely for the cold i haven't thought that much i i am very aware of how dirty planes are but i i also don't wear my driving gloves on the plane, you know? So that's, I don't like it for people who are concerned about their legs touching dirty things. How are they operating with their hands?

I mean, I date men. So like this whole conversation is really like a moot point for me because I'm yeah i put terrible things in my mouth all the time i mean if we're being real yeah yeah well i mean you did i mean i guess you would say that it's a secondary or tertiary concern considering that you searched like sti rates and condom toxicity as two and three so right i get that it's like you don't have to bug me that much but yeah it's on my radar well okay those are related to the show but but yes but i i i'm also interested in those topics yeah yeah but i get it too like you can't i i know the idea too it's like sure it's dirty up there but like if you really want to apply that like then you got to be consistent with your threat

assessment because everywhere is filthy and i am not and it's like so weird when we're like very into things that are dirty versus things that are not yeah oh yeah like it's just wild i mean i'm eating food off the fucking ground like regularly you know like like almost as a rule it's weird oh yeah yeah well i'm always like oh someone drops i'm like sir you dropped that pepperoni slice. Can I have it? Thank you. Thank you. That's why people stay broke. You know what I mean?

Because people are dropping money all over the place. Okay, but maybe that's also how you're not getting sick that often because your immune system is on X mode. Yeah. Goblin mode. Goblin mode. Yeah. My hack for this is just when you're on the plane, if you're wearing shorts, do not use your calves and shins to eat the food. Only when you're on the plane.

Just use your hands instead and wash those. You have like a nice hand sanitizer. Or if your shorts are short, your hamstrings. Yeah. Once you get back to the airport, you can start using your calves and shins again to to consume food as we all do oh my god well rory it's been such a pleasure having you yeah this was fun thank you guys where can people find you follow you all that good stuff um i would prefer it if you don't follow me in real life but if you'd like to follow me online it would be at i could be blonder on instagram okay there you go which

is my aim name from when i was 12 and then um i have a podcast called crimes the heart where i take like uh the craziest dating stories you've ever heard in your life and i turn them into true crime reenactments that i discuss with friends and then i also interview you know experts like non-toxic condom experts. Yeah, there you go. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Ooh. I posted something yesterday that made me laugh. Is that like lame?

Because I posted it? Yeah. I mean, I didn't write it. Okay. It said, these can't be the men that Dolly was begging Jolene not to steal. I thought that was really funny. That is really good. I also love Dolly. begging Jolene not to steal. I thought that was really funny. That was really good.

I also love Dolly. The best. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me at Miles of Grey, wherever they got at symbols, including threads, motherfuckers. And I'm posting shit.

Not shit that you won't get on Twitter. Like yesterday, my dad called the Mandalorian called it the macronome I don't know where the fuck that shit came from it's just from an alternate universe like an alternate timeline he's like that show he's like don't tell me the ma the

man the mac the macronome it sounds like a cookie from like that robots would eat 100% yeah or uh like a macbook chrome like that's like a thing that's all put together anyway all that to say check me out over there and yeah that's uh that's that's me oh and also find me on the new podcast the good thief uh new episode dropped yesterday uh it's a true crime podcast i'm hosting and then find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack i'm at boosties and if you like 90 day fiance catch me and sophia alexandra getting high on 420 day

fiance talking about 90 day a tweet that i like oh so this is wild this i saw this this story about how like imax theaters are using Palm Pilots. Okay, but this is a tweet about it. Wait, what? Wait, yeah, sorry. Hold on. Tom Barber at Tor Bar tweeted, So apparently IMAX theaters ran off Palm Pilots for the quick turn real unit.

And nowadays, rather than having it run off a microcontroller or PC or Raspberry Pi or iPad, they just run a Palm OS emulator. I'm not going to change it. Yeah, so this is like a picture of a fucking iPad that they just meant to mimic the fucking Palm Pilot. Wow. They're like, no, we got to just

it ain't fucking broke. Don't fix it. I love seeing those things where you're like, we're not moving on from this we can't it works it's fine they're coming back believe us oh we're gonna switch now and then tomorrow the palm pilot comes back and who's gonna look like an idiot then you know exactly you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien and on threads at Jack underscore O underscore Brian tweet. I've been enjoying Dr. Bucky Isotope, man of the people

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