The Daily Zeitgeist - Valley Slander Continues, AM(azon)C Theaters? 8.10.20

Episode Date: August 10, 2020

In episode 690, Jack and Miles are joined by Stuff Mom Never Told You's Samantha McVey to discuss a judge killing the Paramount Consent Decrees, the DNC choosing the Clintons over AOC, the Trump Administration trying to rush the Covid-19 vaccine, Malibu Rescue, Jurassic Park, and more!FOOTNOTES: Federal Judge Gives Greenlight To Termination Of Paramount Consent Decrees Biden campaign reportedly making 'ruthless cuts' to convention speaking list Experts Fear Trump Admin Will Rush To Promote Vaccine That’s Not Yet Ready Eve - Let Me Blow Ya Mind (MXTT HXLL & Nick Bike 'Jamaica Dub' Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 146, episode 1 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Shapiro, fuck- Get them all out of here. It's Monday, August 10th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Demon Se.a. Demon semen, COVID sores, Taylor Swift, folklore,

Kanye running, Portland trouble, NBA is in a bubble, John Lewis, Herman Cain, Fauci's pitch, Ghislaine, no election, Trump asks, Karen's out without a mask, Trump's test, blue check hack, unsolved mysteries is back,

David Duke, no Olympic, Snyder has a name to pick. There's more. That is courtesy of, it was not written for me, it was AJ Smith, just right, he pointed out that you could do a different verse of We Didn't Start the Fire for every week of 2020, so we did that for a couple weeks back. Very well written. for every week of 2020. So we did that for a couple weeks back. Very well written. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I think I'm going to just do the nine-inch nails one all over again. Ready? Okay, let me cue the music up. Okay, no. Yes, today, Miles Gray, a.k.a. Someone just tagged me in a tweet that just said, Sashimi rolling.

They hate it. I think it was some stupid Japanese race of people dressed up like sushi on bicycles. So, yeah, Mr. Sashimi rolling dirty. Thank you so much to that unnamed person who I will figure out at some point, but just not quite yet. Oh, you know what it was? Kelly Stanaway at Exploding Runes. Thank you. I Stanaway

that, a.k.a. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the talented, the brilliant, Samantha McVay! Hey, y'all. I'm not gonna lie. I had to step away from the mic from the great song.

I kind of forgot you guys did this. From the flames? Yeah away from the mic from the great song i can't i kind of forgot you guys it was too much fire and then immediately the demon semen semen why right gotta start with the demon semen that's a good rhyme it's just right off the bat you know let them know oh keeps going it goes tiktok ban ellen's mean hydroxychloroquine. Wow. That's probably the best one, but I didn't get to it. Oh, man. That one really summed it up right there. I know. Mail-in ballots might be fake.

Why is everything a cake? Yeah. Keep going. AJ Smith, fire. We didn't start the fire, huh? Yeah. I remember. You couldn't tell from my singing, bro?

I just wasn't sure if the title was different like you know because sometimes it'll be like how i you know how i embraced the flame like sometimes 80s songs is it was not the chorus it was the name of the song i remember that was a thing i would say as a kid to my mom uh like our friend my friend we would say that to our moms like when we get in trouble like as a way to for starting a fire nah just for like spilling shit and they just didn't think it was funny they're like no seriously the mail mailman is hurt because you guys put so much grease i'm like we didn't start the fire yeah he was always reference yeah for me for songs like that i only remember like two words and then i just da da da and make my own shit up well it

didn't help because both our moms were japanese and did not know the song. And they're like, shut the fuck up and clean this oil. What? You started a fire? Right, right, right. I did start a fire one time. Again? You did? Where?

I did one time at my house. One time you started a fire? Until my adulthood. And they were like, they just admit it. And I was like, okay, I did. I didn't mean to. Oh, shit. Oh, you did admit it recently?

Just as an adult. Yeah. But I think I was 13. I was like, I didn't mean to. Oh, shit. Oh, you did admit it recently? Just as an adult, yeah. But I think I was 13. I was like, I didn't know. I just wanted to know what to do. That is amazing. Wait, what was the time? How long?

Okay, how long did you carry that secret system? It took until like my early 30s to actually admit it. Wow, that is so dope. I think about shit like that. Wow. Wait, so what was the circumstances behind this What was the circumstances Behind this There was matches There was hanging string I just wanted to know

If I could If it was flammable How fast it would Catch on flames And it Very fast Very fast y'all Very fast

I love it Open with honesty I've been fucking with smudging A little bit I've been smudging Oh that sage Yeah a little sage A little rosemary

Not bad For the spirits? A little homemade smudge bundle. What spirits are coming for you? Just, you know, to try and clear out the air. You know, let's just say. You've been starting a lot of fires. It's been dark in this room where I record.

So I've got to clear out the negative energy. Are you getting more into fragrances? No, I just like burning stuff okay so smoke is cool i said the same thing your wife's like look if you're gonna burn stuff at least have it be incense or something that doesn't just set off the fire the smoke detectors stop burning plastic in the middle of the room on the floor there you go uh all right smith we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.

We're going to talk about the judge who killed the Paramount consent decrees, which is something that we've been kind of checking in on from time to time. Showbiz might change, huh? A little bit. Showbiz is a thing of the past. You're now just going to have to go to the local community center and watch puppet shows for your entertainment.

That or go to the local Amazon Mind Entertainment Center where you'll jack in for three hours for $15. And Lando has a great puppet center. So outside of COVID, it's fantastic. Oh, you have a lit puppet center? Yeah, we have a century of puppetry arts. Oh, man. It's badass.

So how dare you? What? You thought I was kidding? I was not besmirching or besmudging. We just got the Bob Baker marionette smell. I'm going to go with besmudge. Besmudge or besmirch. Besmirching.

No, besmudge. Yeah. Get it together. Besmudging. Smerching without the B is an interesting word that we can play with. Yeah.

DNC, I'm just kind of glad that nobody's going to pay attention to the Democratic National Convention because the early rumors are that they are preventing AOC from speaking and putting the Clintons front and center.

So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the rush to vaccine, the rush to vaccinate. We're going to talk about the DA investigating Trump and his company over fraud. And then we're going to get to our Netflix rewatches. I rewatched a new film called Jurassic Park that I got to recommend, guys.

Can't wait to hear about it. I've heard a lot of terrible things about it. And then you guys looked at the always classic Malibu Rescue, which is one of the most influential pieces of pop culture of the past 40 years. Surprisingly, a lot more depth than I gave it credit for. I will say that. Okay. We'll get to that.

Depth is not what I was expecting from that. Also, did you do the movies or the series or both? Just the movie that was trending. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, wait, is there a series? Yeah, yeah. That's why I was so confused. She's like, Miles is into this show?

It's like a bunch of kids running around in Malibu saving shit. Are y'all okay? Is everything okay? But first, Samantha, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are, where you are, what you're up to? See, that's really hard because as a podcaster

on a network that is all about research, I Google some random stuff and then some really serious stuff. And the last bit has been who are the female candidates in important elections around the country. So that's what I've been Googling the last two days. I feel like that's so sad. That's such a serious answer. And I didn't want to give that to y'all, but that's where I am. Right.

Is there a female candidate that you're particularly excited about that you just found out about via that google via the google so candace uh valenzuela valenzuela i got this y'all candace valenzuela is the first afro-latina in texas that's coming up and that's a really big big big election and trying to talk about what the kind of significance would happen if she actually did win so that's kind of one of those things i'm like really excited about this could be a turning point but at the same time really nervous because i don't want to be disappointed yeah which happens a lot cory bush cory bush is also another person who just pulled off a upset yeah besting william lacey clay jr uh in missouri and yeah she's an activist she's like you know on

that wave of people that you're like these are the these are the kinds of people like i don't we don't we no longer need people who are versed in the arts of like finance and business you know we need people who who's they're leading with their hearts and leading with purpose because the policies have failed so we need people who are purpose-driven and yeah i, I'm really stoked to see her be in the race. Bush has got some really great platforms and some really great supports, and it's going to be amazing to see what she does. Yeah.

None of that is true according to the Democratic Party, by the way. Yeah, right. They're like, she's a single mother, a nurse, and a pastor? I don't know. Get out of here with that stuff. That's a single mother, a nurse, and a pastor? I don't know. Get out of here with that stuff. That's a pole well. What's her take on capital gains taxes? It's like, what?

That's not... Who does that? That doesn't affect anyone. First question. All right, let me look at your phone here, see how many donors you got. Yeah. I can't say this enough.

Oh, you got a lot. These are actually organ and blood donors. Oh. I talked on... When I used to listen to Crooked Media podcast, they talked about how the first thing that somebody will do if somebody wants to run for office, they'll go through your phone and count up how many big donors you have in your contact list. That was literally a thing they said without shame.

I mean, they were like i mean it's not great but that's the truth that's the harsh truth i protect all of my contacts with fake names in my phone book most of the time that's smart everyone has nicknames so they'll be like who is spider muffins i'm like what are you trying to hide miles he loaded it's like a it was a habit from high school like when i first got my cell phone like everyone had like nicknames and shit so it would never be like oh that's that's cory like you know oh that's that's 32 i would always add something that i have to try to remember about them so yeah you know but not necessarily nicknames you know it's a double-edged sword because for a lot of people i can like it keeps these memories very fresh as to why they have these nicknames other times like

texts come in and it's been years. I get a new phone, and the contacts come over. I'm like, I'm sorry, Stone Eyes. Who are you again? Stone Eyes. So far, we got Spider Muffins, Stone Eyes. You don't want to see this phone. I think one of these episodes, for some extra content,

we just need to have you read off your content. One is literally mushroom cock wait you have donald trump's phone also yeah you need to do these screenshots i'm getting in the white house uh i gotta protect i have to protect the anonymity of my friends yeah because shout out to my brother i was always uh hacking your phone yeah it's the thing that uh you were hanging out with uh john and john and john the other day. John, John, John and the other shot. Mushroom cock. Mushroom cock.

What is something you think is overrated, Samantha? Overrated? I have decided houseplants and people who are obsessed. I know it's quarantine and I know there's a lot of stuff that we need to do but I don't understand this need for houseplants and why you have to have a jungle in your house while you're surrounded by your sadness your death of darkness and your ferns why do plants make you

sad samantha what is going on maybe because i'm honestly maybe because i'm really jealous and mine always die. And it doesn't matter. They all die. And I'm pretty sure they're suicidal or something. Because I'm like, they're trying to die on me. It's the draining that I learned I was not doing. Like, half the time, they're like, well, where's the water going?

I'm like, I don't know. I just watered the plant. And I'm like, yeah. Then people are like, it's just sitting there at the bottom. Then it's not proper. It'll be over water. I'm like, yeah, it's just sitting there at the bottom. Then it's not proper. It'll be over water. I'm like, oh, shit. That's why people would be watering their plants in the sink.

I'm like, that's stupid. Why do you leave your plants in the sink? Yeah, so there's a lot of- Hold on one second. I need to bring my closest plant over so I can show it off to you. Do you need to hug on it? Is he going to go and hug it? He's about to card in like an award-winning Jerusalem tulip.

This is my point. Yo, that's not even. That's like the garnish they put on a bouquet that you put in like a plastic pitcher from Shakey's Pizza. Not really, though. Did you just take a stick from your yard and put it in a dirt? I know. No, Shane. That's your kids, right?

Your kids did that, right? What? No, this is me. This is so dirty, so dead. I think this must be the remnants of, there must have been something else in here. Oh, yeah. That's also how unobservant I am,

is that that's been there for the past three weeks, and I haven't done anything better. Well, that's the thing. Maybe it's because I'm dead inside, and therefore having living things around me reminds me how dead inside I am. But yeah, i feel like that's overrated sam just embrace the change you know because it's the failure of the the plants

dying that you fear you know just embrace that just go into with some that's the thing succulents helped really restore my faith and being able to three succulents how many oh yeah i know people keep giving me plants yeah all right well why plant gang help her out i'm gonna get yelled at for this i don't know yeah now this is one thing that i have to say people who move to california start getting cocky about being able to keep plants alive and like how great they are with it everywhere else in the country like plants don't grow despite themselves like in california you just like drop a seed and a plant like a tree will be there tomorrow california is just the easiest place to grow something so i'll maybe

extend the uh wow okay but wait i just saw your plant and And aren't you in California? What? No. Hold on, my Zoom connection is dropping out. I gotta go. Indoor plants are different. Indoors in California are very inhospitable to life. Sam, what is something you think is underrated? All right. I really am dead inside as I say this uh i think like grandparent candy or like the

old people candy has been underrated because my life changing yes yes and they have the little soft chews now and that has been my go-to candies and i've been made fun of plenty because that was exactly what their grandparents had waiting for them and that's the commercial right the grandparent actually pulls it out of their like pocket or pocket book as they would say and hand it to the kids yeah that's underrated and it's delightful yeah i just think of like my my grandmother used to keep candy at her house and it was always like the the the old school grant was like it would be butterscotch candies wer Werther's, them fucking strawberry foil shits that were just generic strawberry shake. Yeah, and Andy's mint chocolates.

Those are great. Those are great grandparent candies. The one that my grandma on my dad's side would always have, the red and white mints that they have when you when you leave a oh yeah like the peppermint ones yeah those are my least favorite candies in existence my least favorite was the log candies you know yeah so it's like a peanut butter crisp log covered with like a white and brown striped candy oh yeah yeah that's not like generic yeah it was it's not yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Isn't it like peanut brittle? That was a generic. Yeah, it was. It's not peanut.

No. Peanut brittle. What? Okay. Peanut brittle? No, it's not peanut brittle. No, no. It's not brittle.

It's not a brittle. No. I think it's called a peanut butter bar. Is that what it is? Is that the one that had the stripes? I call it peanut butter logs. Yeah, it had the stripes. So it was individually wrapped.

But they had the stripes. The black stripes on the packaging, right? And there was a yellow star. And we call them peanut butter logs. So I guess y'all called it something else i mean look everybody's got regional names you know we call them tasty vittles down here in la you know yeah those are gross looking and not what i was thinking oh you know what i missed though remember the the the dinner mints like back when you could just put your bare hand into a thing at a restaurant and there was no sanitation guidelines but the ones that were like

half marshmallow-y kind of that would dissolve like in your mouth a little bit. Yes, the mint chews. They're chalky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like those? I think they're called wedding mints because I think you can make them. I don't like mints, man. I think I'm just not like mints. For me, it was just sort of like what can I grab

handfuls of that my parents won't see me and I can eat like in my room later and my pockets stink like candy? Right. I think we did that with even our toothpicks. But not the just straight up mint. I still believe in the power of peppermint for your stomach. I like the ginger ale. Okay.

Ginger ale does work. So let's not call that into question at this point. The sacredness of ginger ale. Something's wrong with your stomach. You'll drink ginger ale. Or ginger. Yeah. Ginger beer.

Ginger everything. Ginger all the things. There you go. And finally, Sam, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa? See, I've been thinking on this because last time i came in i wasn't quite prepared uh but i think one of the things that again god i'm such a sad sack i'm just i'm just always a sad sack uh that the whole idea that if you have the

means that adoption is a great answer for you and it should be a family who adopts a kid and i think that's a complete myth and And adoption is not for everyone. And especially adoption is not necessarily for rich people. So stop it. Stop it. All right. And also the term rehoming for young children is awful. Right.

Awful. Just want to go with that. But I've been thinking on this quite a bit. I don't, I guess you can tell because we've been talking a little bit about adoption. And that's been in our episodes on my podcast. But I'm like, hmm, I think we just need to go ahead and let people know. Please stop talking about loving Jesus and how you're going to save these kids. Just stop it. Just stop it.

Interesting. Okay. So because I'm completely ignorant to the adoption scene, the game, what that's like. I mean, the last few stories I've read have been in relation to like really awful stories to your point of people would like, we have these big hearts. And yes, this child may be a murderer from Ukraine. I don't know. And I will say that when I abandoned them to justify this. But like, so I mean, like, educate me because I'm completely ignorant to the myth you're even sort of dispelled. Right. So this whole idea that the reason, well, as you know, it's still a big topic about religious rights and organizations, foster care organizations and adoption agencies being able to deny LGBTQ plus couples from adopting, saying that to truly have a good family and upbringing, it needs to be a nuclear family, essentially a Christian family,

male, woman, you know, having that and having the means. And that's, that's it. That's kind of the whole, if you can do that and you can pay the, you know, $30,000 to bring a child over, go for it. I mean, just like anecdotally, I'm like my friends with the gay parents is doing way better than the nuclear family. well adjusted right so yeah that's the conversation that i've had with many people that honestly the lgbtu plus because they understand trauma they are probably a little more and this is not necessarily researched this is not something that i have looked into but as a social worker that's been in that industry they're probably more able to handle trauma as versus to a family who wants the perfect looking family.

And I know the YouTube couple, the stuffers, I don't know if you know any about this, adopted a kid, an autistic kid from China. I want to say China. I'll have to go back and look at that and realize, oh, my God, it's hard. It's hard having an adopted child from a different country who also has autism and it's not necessarily difficult because he is difficult but because they don't understand how to handle or cope and so they made a lot of money a lot of money through their youtube channel with talking about how philanthropic this was and how amazing of a couple they are and doing all of these things for this kid.

And then he just disappeared. And everybody was like, what happened to this child? And by the way, they had their own biological children as well. And everybody kept asking, where is this kid? Where has the kid gone to? And they came back with a statement. We had to re-home Huxley was his name. We had to re-home Huxley because we were not able to

deal with his issues and it became a huge thing they called it issues? they were like we had an early atypical child that we were wholly unprepared because of him we didn't know what was going on with that so we had to re-home

it's just very selfish it is such a whole big thing they made a lot of money they made a lot of sponsorships and then they had to come back with that yeah so as of june they were investigated and finally i think people have forgotten about it essentially um because the truth of the matter is when it comes down to adoption which is really gross i honestly discourage a lot of people i as an adopted child of course course, am very grateful, but also can tell you the struggles that I've had to deal with growing up. And even now as an adult,

trying to struggle through some of my identity stuff and what it feels like as an interracial family. And I say interracial, I'm the different race of the rest of my family and what that looks like, especially today. And the idea of I grew up in a southern home with a white family so go from there um but what it looks like when you really need to look at the fact that this is not going to be a hallmark story uh this child's going to be grateful to you and you understand what comes along with it right so it's a it's a thing and i'm actually very discouraging to people that i'm like you really need to understand these are the things that's going to happen to you and that's the good like the best case scenario they're like but I was just watching this is us and um you know I I found a wayward teenage uh teenager we just cried and hugged each other and we're okay now and it was there yeah at first they were breaking

shit I feel like also yeah something like that there's probably build up of the white savior and you're like no this is this is why this is so wrong. It's just enough to have a big house. Right. And you're good. And two people as a couple. Great. Right.

Yeah. Heterosexual couple. Yeah. The means argument that people have, though, is really like, it's something. Because, again, some of the most fucked up people i know come from means you know what i mean because the philosophy of the parents was man the fuck you need man i got all this money and shit would you hungry here here's like 300 bucks i'll be back on sunday night and it's like friday morning you know what i mean and it's just

like and then we will go there and party because it's like yo yo, the parents love like, you know, all this cash. Like we can just order pizza all day. There's no parents here smoking my weed. Right. And then they're missing, you know, that real like parental upbringing that they miss. And then I realized through my therapy that I was actually ending, I was raising some of these kids. Right.

Some of my relationships ended up being me raising some of these kids because the parents were like, hey man, you're the smart kid. Help him out. And I take that on literally. And then I'm like, holy shit, man. The dad made me raise his son. Right. The fuck?

And that kid ends up in your phone as spider muffins. Or mushroom cock. Or sigh. Dad's disappointed. That's too rough. All right, guys. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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we also want to own the theaters, or at the very least, make the theaters do whatever we say because we make the movies that they need to project in their theaters so it was stuff like block booking is one of the things that was like one of the main things it was preventing which is sort of like disney would go to like an amc and be like look if you want mulan you got to take all this other bullshit too and put it out minimum these screens look like i don't know if that's good for business but the whole cudgel is oh do you want star wars then you're taking you're good then you will show these other films at your theater and because of that because that is not allowed you know theater is a little bit uh more able to independently program things although you know for the most part it's the same fare wherever you go but by you know

these decrees being lifted that will bring know, that means things like block booking or circuit dealing, which is sort of like if you have a circuit of theaters, like you need to have this very expensive license to show all the films in this circuit of theaters. So it's all these other business practices that are predatory. And the opponents are saying that, you know, even though they're like sunsetting some of these provisions like for two years. So like it'll be like two years until like this whole idea, like where you could potentially do block booking again would come back as a way to sort of get their heads around how to transition the industry. But at the end of the day, the DOJ's argument is sort of like these antitrust laws that we have now are like adequate. So even if we lift these it's all good but then opponents are like but you're not actually even pointing out the things that these decrees were preventing are bad and potentially cause problems and like anti like lack of

competition right so like to somebody to a listener who's just uh you know a film goer your average film consumer like how how does how does this, uh, affect them? I mean, first it's probably going to affect, I think independent theaters. Right. I was going to ask,

is it going to kill off all of our independent? That's really, those are the, those are the ones that are really, really going to be in trouble because like, for example, if you're an independent theater, like,

well, I only want star Wars and they're like, well, here's the deal. Uh, you got to take all this other shit too. And you're like, well, I don't really have the capacity. And like, well, here's the deal. You got to take all this other shit too. And you're like, well, I don't really have the capacity.

And like, well, then you don't get Star Wars. So that's that. That's, you know, that is a very, the aggressive way of it looking. And then also like, it could be a thing where some theaters just become extensions of the studios themselves. Right.

Like you will. You have your Disney movie theaters. You have your, and Disney being the best case scenario because they now own every uh movie but like that's and that's when we were talking about last time with this is because disney owns such a just an incredible amount of market share that with a lot of these decrees lifted they have a very they have a lot of weight they can throw around when it comes to like how business is done with movie theaters um so it's right now you know everyone's like don't worry it's going to be fine everyone's saying it'll be okay like some of the companies that were in the original consent decrees like

rko and like mgm like they don't even exist anymore so it's really not like the same but you know like anything it all it's doing is creating a lot of possibilities that people like the Directors Guild and Writers Guild and a lot of independent theater operators are saying. This could wipe everything out. Is that why that little Twitter post was such a big thing? The one that the dude is beating up on the Mulan poster? I was very confused by that, by the way. Oh, that was a different story. Oh, it was a different story?

Okay. I didn't know that was because of Disney. Well, that was a different story that one oh is it okay yeah i didn't know that was because of disney well yeah that that was a that was a french film i think what they said was a french theater owner when he found out that mulan was just going to be put out on streaming and he's like owns a theater and they're this massive in lobby display that he was just tearing down because he's so pissed that he's like well that's not money coming through my doors now right okay okay i didn't know if he just really hated Mulan. No, no. It was a response.

They just announced that Mulan is going to come out on Disney Plus the same weekend that the first major theater release is coming, Christopher Nolan's Tenet. So he is, I think all theater owners are pissed. Disney, in order to kind of throw them a bone we're like no it's okay we'll charge people $30 to rent or to download this movie and like

just pass the shit on to the people make them pay extra because god knows Americans have so much disposable income at this point but yeah i mean on the other hand though miles it's gonna be tight when you can have like a crossover with like marvel x-men dc like just it's everything's made by one mega studio yep and and then they can set the ticket

prices too because they can set the ticket prices but. They can set the ticket prices, but it'll be super tight because Superman can chill with Wolverine. And yes, the ideological content of the movie will be telling you that this sort of thing is okay. But it'll still be super tight and the effects will be awesome. So who's going to win? What studio is going to win out this whole Battle Royale? Disney. Yeah, Disney.

Like Disney should already. They've already. They need to start taking a look at. But yeah, that's the other thing to say is like, you know, the decrees also prevented studios from like setting minimum prices on tickets, too. So there's a lot of shit that they're saying, like, well, you know, people just aren't going to do that anyway. Like it's just it's it'll help competition. That's what they always say that this these you know regulations hinder competition uh so i'm i'm that dubious at best funk dubious um thank you so much you're welcome uh yeah i do

wonder like all the kind of uh quote-unquote like geek culture the mainstream of geek culture and like all the people talking being excited about crossovers uh i do wonder if that was like seeded by i wouldn't be surprised if when we look back in history it will have been seeded by like the same way that russia used trolls like i'm sure disney's smart enough to enough to have their marketing campaign using trolls to make it seem like people are excited for that shit. So they can just consolidate the entire entertainment industry. I mean, the place to look is just to look in the programming of the last 20 years of children's programming and just be like, they're like, it's weird. I didn't catch this in Aladdin.

The whole thing about lifting the consent decrees, the paramount consent decrees. If you look in the background, it's weird. Instead of saying sex in the clouds of the Lion King. Yeah. Lift the paramount consent decrees. And it may seem like we're unloading on Disney, but that's just because they're probably going to own us in a couple days.

So we're just getting all the shit talk out of the way right now. I just need to know who the overlord's going to be. Yeah. I don't know where to go. So we can not talk shit about them. All right. Let's talk about... So the DNC, Democratic National Convention, is probably or definitely not going to happen in any real sense.

It's going to be like an online thing. It's going to be like an online thing. It's going to be a shitty work Zoom call. Right. Like I said to you. Have you guys seen the commercial for that? That little animation they have for the six feet? Like CNN's been putting it up about the DNC and the RNC, where it's like the elephant and the donkey,

and then they measure six feet away, and it ends with him saying, this is the most we've ever talked. Oh, wow. I saw this the other day. I was like, what the fuck is this? What is happening? So the message is like, if only we could get the Democrats and Republicans to talk to each other and get on the same side, then we'd be OK.

It's pretty much just advertising that it's coming. Like the DNC is coming and the RNC is coming, but they're not saying when or where. But it's just like, I don't know why they have it. I don't know if it's just a filler, but I was very confused about what is happening. Why did someone do this? What's going on?

We accidentally aired a screensaver and it seemed to like content, so we just left it up. Yeah, I don't know. So anyways, the Democratic, I think it's at least worth looking at where the DNC's head is at, the Democratic Party's head is at,

because apparently they are preventing AOC from speaking and putting the Obamas and the Clintons front and center. Good, good, great, great. My analysis of this is you have honestly got to be fucking kidding me with this shit. That's what I wrote. So the most charismatic, electrifying force in the party since Barack, they want to push her to the back in favor of the person who lost the last election and

her sexual predator husband. That's where we're at. Because they're a known quantity. I feel like they should have learned that lesson from the John Lewis funeral and the eulogy. Everybody just cringed so

hard. The minute I saw him pop up i had to turn the station i was like i can't i don't want to see this except for the democratic party they weren't cringing they were like what's because they're men you said it you said it bill it's it's the same thing like the theory jack about like when a celebrity gets like famous like they lose their life skills from that point on like it's the same thing with politicians like the heyday their heyday like they're stuck in that moment where like bill clinton is tight as fuck he's gonna come out that's sax and black people will be like and they're like this is fucking excellent you know i mean no one's thinking in where we are now and it's just really really fucking lame and let's even think like aoc the end of last year, I remember, which felt honestly, and we can all say that felt like 15 years ago.

Well, when the primary, the presidential primary, who's going to get the nomination? I remember when the squad, people were like, oh, man, whoever the squad endorses, like that's going to be big. And now we're seeing them like sort of a backlash i think from that too where it's like dude keep these people out the spotlight obama's gonna even sit on his endorsements of these people in at least the first wave so it doesn't quite say put the message out that the dnc and obama is not fucking with them right now but you know there's that possibility when he does his second round of endorsements that they could get it. It's just very, I think we see that the establishment realizes that already now, I think, because at this point, millennials and younger make up the majority of the human life in this country. many people who I think our generation of people look at as being the kinds of politicians we'd like to see in office versus the stepdads and stepmoms of our childhoods that we see in office

now. The fact that they would let the Clintons anywhere near the fucking spotlight is so unnerving to me about just like where, even biden wins which you know i i want him to win more than i've ever wanted a presidential candidate to win anything and i'm just not excited about him at all but i just i you know we can't we can't do another four years of this shit but if he wins like what it's just gonna be so infuriating, the party in power, the way the Democrats. But maybe, I don't know, maybe they can be reformed while in power. Maybe they can primary Biden after he wins. The smart move is you convince voters right now with your VP candidate that, guess what, man?

Biden isn't the DNC, man. He gets it. We get it. We're going gonna have to do medicare for all we're gonna have to actually like have more robust social safety nets and then we'll get in there and then it's gonna be let's just maintain the status quo and we'll just do incremental incremental legislation uh when really you know i think everyone is just so hungry for solutions because we're like everyone is exhausted unless you're someone who is living in the you know blessed

five percent and up where you just don't you know there's a there's a there's like a world you live in now where not many of the world's ills affect you uh but it affects pretty much everybody else and i think that's like is someone just willing to look at this sober and say like, yeah, this is bad. Actually, we don't need to say like America's so great. Number one, you can say, yeah, a lot of this stuff is fucked up. But you know what, everybody, let's figure out how to change it rather than like trying to protect the ego, the collective ego of the nation and like acting like things aren't so bad. And we are just leaving people behind by the hundreds of thousands, millions. Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't bring on Bush.

Just the way they are just pulling him up as if he was the ultimate Republican president. I'm like, what is happening? I think Kasich is going to be one of their main speakers. So it's all about getting that sloppy, soft middle. Just spooning it in. Making it like some WWF shit. Hey shit like white women please look at this we're like uh the rock when he became the corporate elbow when he joined the corporation i don't know if you remember that

anyway it was like when you saw the guy join up with the bad guys and people like whoa what's this mean like in the same where they could be like bush has come to this side y'all and they're like but it's all meaningless because at the end of the day we still have people dying of covet 19 we have no national plan we have no way to actually help small business owners because now people are trying to figure out every way to advocate for themselves when really we just need to be looking at where where all the money is going and say can you stop sucking the money for one second can you stop for one second so we can get on our feet for a moment and then let's figure out what we're gonna do but there's you can't keep wringing out the dollars from

people when we're all dried up uh and that's what's so interesting like there's not people aren't even understanding like the logic of that it's like there's nothing to extract right now from people but they still want to and people can say what they want about bush politically but he is my favorite visual artist and he does have a new uh book of paintings all the dogs uh this one actually pays tribute to immigrants uh so no it does not we're good yes yes he did a whole book on immigration even though he was the one one and he just painted a bunch of portraits out of many Juan. That was actually my first one. They didn't like that. That was perfect.

The creator of Ice decided he wanted to do a book of immigration and you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Sit back down, dude. I got a cease and desist from Paul Rodriguez. There's a movie called A Million to Juan. Did you see that movie? No. No. Paul Rodriguez. Not the skateboarder

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Well, I've completely derailed that segment. Anyway, moving on. Just silence. Dan, could you put some crickets in there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But real quick, let's hit these two stories that we've had on the doc for a couple of days. Experts are saying that the white house probably shouldn't be rushing the

vaccine the way that they are. They're just making it seem like let's get this thing out there. The operation warp speed, which is always good when a scientific process, a research process is being done at warp speed. Granted, I want a vaccine as fast as anybody else, but what are the issues that they're calling out? Well, the whole thing is Trump is like,

I need this vaccine yesterday. And because the only thing now it's like, okay, well, if I can do enough voter suppression, fuckery, and these other things, plus rah-rah announce a vaccine, that might be enough just to get people to forget that probably around 200,000 people will have been dead by that point, if not more, of COVID-19. So right now, like there's everyone's looking at it there's like two vaccines that are that have trials right now and it's not going to inoculate like a full actual uh cohort of like the actual test subjects until september so they're saying like okay and then as we're doing that we still have to gather all kinds of like data on efficiency like probably like if we're going to do it normally we'd probably be doing that around december at the earliest and then so once we so that's the

thing the data has been gathered at that point and then they would have to do some research after that so to the idea of something happening in november is just like that's just on a fully accelerated timeline or like that's completely reckless they also just say they don't want to undermine people's faith in science either you go out there and telling people like we're gonna have that shit done in november blah blah blah and it comes out and it's flawed or it's not ready or whatever then people there's another talking point that will come out where people like well you see what happened doesn't even work like what are these scientists talking so they're also afraid that like please don't put all your hopes and dreams into this

either like don't be don't talk about all this shit out loud like we're just doing the thing that we're researching don't start saying oh come in this fall to fox uh the vaccine because there's still things going on and what makes it really disheartening is that like health and human services is behind the entire rollout and they are talking about this like it's it's like the new mc Monopoly game, like the way they're going to talk about it. They're like, think about this is a quote from someone at Health and Human Services. Think about it as a four to six week period of time. Very intense, multi-channeled, highly targeted based on what we've learned about the vaccine. So you may not hear a lot about promising vaccines over the airwaves in August and September, but you'll be overwhelmed by it come November.

Like what? We're not launching a new TV show a marketing campaign yeah it's marketing campaign and they're saying that despite the fact that we have no idea what the state of the vaccine is going to be at that point they're just like we're gonna put something in your arm yeah uh you know we'll figure that shit out we're gonna test it on people first because the other thing is too like once you get it the vaccine and you're out there depending on how you would potentially interact with it like it depends on what the level of the infection rate is in like the area you're in so there are a lot of ways to sort of look at the data it's not just like okay and then september all these people are all good it's fine you don't know where they've been you don't know like if they've actually come into contact, whatever.

So all this to say is that this is like a massively delicate operation because we're dealing with something that we really want to be effective. This can't be like when PlayStation 2 comes out in the first week and people are like, the CD drive doesn't work. And then people get all mad. Don't play around with people because this this is gonna there's all this is a lot more important than i think the even the white house understands like yes it could be a great motivator but it could really really really fuck with people's perception of like what you know the research is able to promise because most people are really ignorant around these processes and they just think it's like making a fucking you know like anything you'd make in a factory like was it designed in cad all right then just start rolling

it out like just start shitting them out on the factory but isn't that what the white house is kind of all about donald trump wants to be the one and the first one to say it no matter what because he has to have that credit just in case it's right it's almost like he's just throwing all of it out there so out of the two percent of chance that it's right he can say i fucking told you i'm the best that's the whole gamble yeah and he's gonna do it and i will be so interested to see what the science community has to say around that time he's going like yep this is it we've got it folks get ready for november everything's gonna be fine but you just gotta re-elect me and then you get the vaccine. Right. That's true. I bet he does do that.

Yeah, he holds the country hostage. I mean, already the rates that some people have been talking about with some of the treatments have been astra-fucking-nomical. The other part is, how much is it going to cost? And who's going to be able to get access to that?

As well as, who are you testing it on to show the risk? What's happening? I mean, everybody's going to be able to be able to get access to that as well as who are you testing it on to show the risks? Like what's happening? I mean, everybody's gonna, they're going to have to make it for free like that or not make it for free, but give it out for free. Like what do you think they will do?

Yeah. I think that's like just, just the unpopularity of trying to charge people money for the vaccine to like a global pandemic that has destroyed the economy would be a step too far. And I have never been negatively surprised by this country. Or the pharmaceutical industry. Yeah. Yeah.

Look, if there's anything we know about big pharma, they get it at a certain point. When you look at the testing, even like who gets access to what types of tests it's still limited yeah and you're kind of like why isn't this accessible it's the testing like yeah we're not able to not everyone is accessed and we know the people who are with trump they're getting the good stuff the good testing to tell you within two days because mike dewein he tested positive and then they're like oh oh, fuck it, man. Get another test, man. He's going to meet the president. And then he tested negative.

Right. And then people are like, you see? But then it's like, oh, hold on. You have to realize that a lot of these tests have more false negatives than they do. So like, than false positives. So like, if anything- False positives are extremely, extremely rare.

Yeah, it's like, if anything, you just got a false negative because you just hurried up another test. Right. And that's a lot of the- You should go hang with Trump. Yeah, a lot of the experts have been's like, if anything, you just got a false negative because you just hurried up another test. Right. You should go hang with Trump. Yeah. A lot of the experts have been saying, like, yo, the tests are whack as fuck out here. Like, we got the fucking, like, C grade.

We don't have, like, the Ross Dress for Less B grade tests. We've got, like, the fucking, I don't even know. Like, yeah, there's, like, everything in this country. There's levels to this shit. And even the tests that people are getting yeah uh and then the da is investigating trump and his company over fraud in new york that's you know a story from earlier this week but i when i first saw it my eyes kind of passed over it i thought i already knew that he was being investigated for fraud but um basically the revelation came that a month after the Supreme Court paved the way for the DA to subpoena his tax filings, we have new filings that suggest that we used to think it was just going to be about hush money payments Michael Cohen made on the Stormy Daniels thing, but it's much broader in scope and involves

massive repeated for alleged bank and insurance fraud. Yeah. So just hush money. It's got it all, man. It's in Deutsche Bank, too. The latest thing was like Dave was reported that they handed all his records over. So yeah, I'm looking

at the whole thing now. That's why they're my favorite, favorite company in America, Deutsche Bank. But then all that'll happen is you put another corpo defender in the White House and what does it mean anyway? You just got that one out. I'm going to wait for 10 years from now to see the movie, to see what happened.

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uh and at the time i was like what the fuck this movie's only an hour and 10 minutes i'm like this isn't a movie this is not uh and then as i look i'm like okay so it's already a series uh about these kids who are just like i'm guessing i haven't seen the series but based on the movie that they are some kind of rescue team um and like they're all like little teenagers uh but the interesting thing about the movie is like it the second i watched it i was like damn this is like a fucking cartoon just with human beings like everything from the opening felt like some paw patrol shit like the first scene is like a rescue and it's like yo shorty go over there on your jet ski you you too and like they're like flying in like a formation to like get this paddleboard who's about to get

eaten by mako sharks and shit and like they go and they do their thing like they swirl around to scare the sharks away the rescue boat comes in pulls the guy and they're like great and it felt like i was like oh okay this is very easy to wrap your head around if you're a kid transitioning from like cartoons to like irl people content there's one of the kids a master of disguise and they trick the shark into thinking that they're an oracle whale and they're like uh no the, the movie is very formulaic and easy to follow. And it's essentially about like these kids. They're like the bad news bears of like youth. Yeah.

Like lifeguards. And then they find themselves having to replace team USA, like in the world beach master competition. I do have to ask this as I'm in Georgia and I don't know much about California. I love California. And this was a very in Georgia and I don't know much about California I love California and this was a very accurate description

why is the valley I mean in the 80s I remember the valley is really bad because basically these kids are from the valley and they're like

no one from the valley will be on our team so I'm really confused why people hate the valley why do people hate the valley Samantha classes pure trash

the people from the valley are garbage humans uh no I'm gonna write this down tell her about the valley are garbage humans. No. Miles, tell her about the valley. I'm not joking, dude. That actually hurt. And Miles quits.

Just give me... Hold on. Give him a minute. So it's classist. You know what I mean? I think because the the money people of the city tend to live on the west side on the other side of the hill as we say colloquially here um but in the beach areas and the valley is like yeah you're working class people uh and just we're we're we're gross that's why i fuck with new jersey because like people in new york were like oh

the fucking people from jersey the bridge and tunnel full right i'm like yes but guess what we are the real people of this city at least la i say that um so you know it that's that's really the hate is like oh you're poor and gross and we're rich and we're from here so that's all it is okay because i was just like why i feel like after 20 30 i'm old 40 years they would have gone past the Valley bit. I would have assumed Valley had gotten gentrified and now the cool place to live. I mean, it is gentrified, which is funny because in the 80s, like everybody who wasn't a star of a show lived in the Valley. So like everybody who was like a camera operator, a writer, a producer, like if you didn't have that, if you were making big bucks,

those like the people who were living in the Valley at first, because the studios are in the Valley as well, or a lot of them um so you know it's okay but i mean paul thomas anderson grew up there and like a lot of his early work is very like defined by the valley the valley is like i i feel like the new jersey thing i was actually thinking about that the other day when we were talking about uh new jersey culture in general and how like it has a very specific like geographical like gravitational pull and like sense of place in all the work that comes from New Jersey whether it's Sopranos or Bruce Springsteen and like meanwhile the people in New York like look down on it and it's like well there's actually like there's a lot of great art that comes out

of there and what do you guys have woody allen uh but uh you know it same thing with the valley like there's so much like beautiful art and just like rami malik rami catherine mcphee rachel bilson boom okay dave navarro tour who else paul thomas anderson flying lotus okay the valley is out here but yeah but that's all it is and i think it just it's just it's like any show where you just set up like the townies and the whatever dynamic of any geographic region just like when we were just with the outer banks we saw you know what i mean right yeah that'll be x dude um so yeah and the movie goes on to be you know they the whole thing is just very much like an 80s film where it's like if we don't win the competition enough kids won't be interested

in junior rescue and there will be no junior rescue so we got to basically quote you know like this is their their rec center that they have to save in this film junior rescue is the yeah got it but all this to say is when i was looking at it, I'm like, who is behind this? Because it felt very like this is interesting. This guy, Savage Steve Holland, the guy who wrote and directed Better Off Dead and One Crazy Summer, he created this show and directed this whole thing. So this is the man who was making 80s teen content and made Eek the Cat and all kinds of other things in the 90s. It culminated like this is where he is now why did you call him savage steve is that what you have him in as a contacting your

phone or is that that's what he goes by i was watching the end and it says directed by savage steve holland he's an art like so he went to cal arts i think around the same okay okay see like he started off as an artist doing cartoons. And then that turned into writing. Savage is his nickname, but I guess that's what he... He's just like, I don't know. It's just... I'm not saying it's a cool thing.

He's 62 and he goes by Savage. Yeah, it's Savage, yeah. Yeah. And you should have seen him do the Savage challenge on TikTok. It was trash. But it was interesting to think, because who is that one guy from Revenge of the Nerds that's also in Better Off Dead and One Crazy Summer? do with the curly hair. Who's kind of like booger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's, he's in beach rescue. Like he has a little cameo in it. And I'm like, damn, you're the fucking homie. Like you're even giving him work still. Like you haven't forgot you. Like I had your back on one crazy summer. I had your back better off dead. I'm giving you some work now.

Is there, like, an aesthetic? Curtis Armstrong. That's his name. Curtis Armstrong. Does Malibu Rescue have, like, an aesthetic that, like, feels like kids will one day feel nostalgic for this? I don't know. What do you think, Sam?

I'm not going to lie. So I just watched clips because I was really confused about whether or not we were doing movie or the series. And I'm like, I'm not watching the series I just watched clips because I was really confused about whether or not we were doing movie or the series and I'm like I'm not watching the series they can't make me that's the I went down as I was watching the clips I'm sitting here going yeah it's very much like Netflix is trying to do their own version of Disney's movies the children's movies and trying to get those in the same like the kissing booth which I've not watched and all of that too so I don't know because I feel like there's so much content, it's hard to classify what's going to be classic and cult. Right.

Cultish later on. I just have to ask though, is Brody the new Chad for all these movies? Because I've seen that name come up for all the bros, the antagonists. And it's all- I think it's just all like people who just saw Brody Jenner on the hills and were like, yeah, that's the new name for some rich asshole. That guy seems cool. Yeah.

Or that. No, he's the douchebag of all the shows. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's the douchebag? Oh, do you? He's the white douchebag of all the shows. He's the total douchebag. Total douchebag.

Love it. And one of the main characters poisons the whole team with rotten coleslaw. Spoiler alert. This is why I stay away from mayo. Gross. What is your personal name for a douchebag white guy? Don't say Jack, Miles.

Don't say Jack. Ah, you got me. Even if that's the truth. After that Valley comment, how about this? John. In my face. Mine's always been

Brant or Tyler. Brant. Brant? Brant. Tyler Brant Brant Brant yeah wow that's specific I don't know is it

man maybe I should not say that maybe the person who gave me that preference is gonna damn Jack mine would always have to go with either Chad or Kyle

yeah Kyle okay Kyle Kyle we have a great Kyle on our team. The Kyles, I knew you could punk them, so they weren't really somebody who gave you problems. Maybe Phil? I don't know.

Yeah, Phil. Phil's an old man name. I was just so off the, yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think. I don't know. I don't know. I never paid attention. Tyler, Tyler, all those names of dudes who play lacrosse, basically.

I mean, Brody's appropriate, I think. Yeah, Brody's pretty good. All this to say is if you want to check out what the guy who created Eat the Cat and Better Off Dead is doing now, like 30 years later, check this out. There's a sequel coming. Oh, yeah. There's a sequel. Yep Oh yeah, you know this.

The one thing I did like was at the end, they do that thing where they show you bloopers. Always like that at the end of a movie. I always love a good blooper scene. Love a blooper reel at the end of a movie. Although I don't like it in Pixar movies. I think that's annoying. That doesn't make sense. That's stupid. You put in the labor for that. Right. Well, I didn't see the con! And you're like,

y'all scripted this? Yeah, come on Toy Story. You're better than that. You scripted spontaneity? It didn't see the con. And you're like, y'all scripted this? Yeah, come on, Toy Story. You're better than that. You scripted spontaneity? It doesn't work like that. It's the fucking magic is the spontaneity. Toy Story figured it out. Toy Story 4 has great post-credit sequences.

But Jack, we're dying to hear about this indie flick. Right, so you might have been hearing some rumblings about a new movie called Jurassicassic park uh it's about dinosaurs folks uh so the reason i wanted to talk about this it's been the top movie at the box office overall during the pandemic it's like people are going to see it at drive-ins and just wherever you can watch movies on big screens when no new movies are coming out. Netflix just released it on August 1st on Netflix, the whole trilogy and the original has been in the top 10 ever since. I think it was like one of the top movies already of the past week based on like a few days, but it was number four a couple days ago and yeah so i i wanted to go back so i'm a jaws

guy i love jaws that that is to me what jurassic park is to kids who are you know growing up now and like jurassic park is their favorite movie so there's like a little bit of like competition in there that i had to like just put aside, put aside. Cause like, it's, it's not useful. Nobody wants to hear,

but it's the same. Like dad, my old ass man take about how like jaws is better because the shows less and the antagonist is more consistent. So here's the thing. Jurassic park does. It tries to, I love Jurassic park.

Don't talk about it in the context of jaws though jack just keep it like just stay focused here so this is the thing that i noticed regardless not thinking about jaws at all so the antagonist is not the dinosaurs the antagonist is chaos and so there's all these like different things that happen where it's just it's very loose like the way that like at one point it's a car that's fallen out of a tree at another point it's like they're racing to get over this electrified fence just like stuff that doesn't happen in let's say another monster movie made by steven spielberg but so like they they literally like stick to that and that was just something that i had forgotten that they like really are like yeah no chaos theory is actually the antagonist um and it works i mean the the thing

about jurassic park is like the script is not as good as, you know, uh, some of the other like classic monster movies. Uh, but the effects are so fucking good. Like still, still, yeah, they still, Oh my God.

There's like the, when the T-Rex like is looking in the window and they shine a light in its eye and it's pupil dilates like that is so, that's because they did, they threaded that needle of using practical effects and computers only when they needed it so like that foot that comes down that's real that eye is real but then the other stuff that's really like when it makes you realize how far like how lazy or not i don't know whatever the reason is why everyone just so by the time the lost world came around they were using like more cgi and that movie

sucks and like the the effects aren't great on that because it's they just like leaned too heavily on the computerized stuff whereas this movie is like mostly practical it's like half and half basically uh i thought at the time i was like man cgi stuff is like the future because this stuff looks amazing because that was like what everybody was writing about. But like now looking at it, you can tell that like all the Raptor stuff, the up close Raptor stuff is practical effects. All the Stan Winston. Yeah. All the all the close up T-Rex stuff is practical effects. up T-Rex stuff is practical effects. Ian Malcolm,

Jeff Goldblum, is just making love to your eyes the entire time he is on camera. That's another thing that just like... Just non-stop. He puts it on so thick.

It's no surprise that they tried to make him the protagonist. Do you think there were nerd guys who were like, yo, that's going to make him the protagonist do you think like they were like like nerd guys who are like yo that's gonna be my swag when i hate women like i'm curious i think the pickup artist is like body language the pickup artist body language like that's like like slithering type of body language but i'm just curious like people who are like of age like you know if you were like 22 and 93 and you're like, oh, my God, I'm I'm adopting. Oh, God.

I'm the Malcolm Swack, like black linen button up open. You know what I mean? I'll be like, give me your hand really quick. I'm just going to put a daughter of wine here at a bar. You're like, oh, bro, you're getting it on my clothes. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is the pickup artist type of tactic.

Yeah, right. Let me show you. I mean, right. Yeah. Like a little. It's tactile, too. It like involves touching oh my god so he was the original uh mystery the pickup artist he was he was the beginning in the book his character dies spoiler alert but apparently they wait there's a book yeah you got me there too damn it miles do you did you not take english literature

in high school yeah did you not have a a whole unit it's interesting yeah christian uh it's interesting because so he ended up like being a climate change denialist uh surprise just a terrible guy i actually read a short story by him one time they like did this thing of like short stories that were supposed to be literary from like people who are like sue grafton and michael creighton and his was like so dark and misogynistic and just like a guy murdering his ex-wife. I'm like, it was like, oh man,

you are a bad person. but that was back when I read everything that Michael Crichton wrote. Anyways, there, Ian Malcolm, like ends up having all these like anti-science arguments in this movie that I hadn't remembered where he's like, you can't just invent stuff just for the sake of invention and like you kind of end up being in that argument on the side of john hammond

the park owner because like i don't know it should be like all the stuff that goes wrong shouldn't go wrong like they just like 20 things, like a perfect storm comes together to fuck this up the very first time they go out. I remember it being like a cautionary tale of like, don't mess with things that's extinct. Don't bring it back up. Yeah, don't mess with nature. I mean, I might be the only person

that has seen Jack's back tattoo, but it does say your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should yeah which i think that was a great goldblum uh yeah yeah yeah thank you so much but i think like that was like the one part i feel like that only resonated like from all the stuff that his criticisms of it it's a great line uh yeah but not in the more in the sense like yeah but fuck it bro like if you can blow it out with the embryos the argument so like what the the thing

that happens is they start they immediately start arguing on the scientific merit of what they're doing as opposed to the thing they should be criticizing is without consulting the broader scientific community you did all of these all this cloning and then put them out there in a fucking amusement park like that's what you did with it that's also i think they have to have time travel because the dinosaurs like a t-rex to be that old would have to be 20 years old so they've been either cloning these things for years and years and years and more like years ahead decades ahead of the rest of the world in terms of science uh or just to build an amusement park or that's just a plot hole um are you questioning bd wong in this movie because he was one of the how dare you

t-rex reaches full sexual maturity at 20 at jurassic park Right. Yeah. So anyways, Malcolm ends up making like these anti-science arguments, which is kind of weird. They struck me as weird, like in our present day when we're having that argument with the president and his followers about the pandemic. That might just be specific to this very moment though. And and yeah there's also just this thing like where the font of the movie is seems like it should be like on a happy meal ad um but because i think it's because it's so influential that like it was just so everywhere when i was 12 and the movie came out that like i just associate it with that but i like at the 12 and the movie came out that like I just associate it with that but like at the

beginning of the movie I was like why why do I think this is so like I don't know dissonant that like this font is going with this like very serious music which that music did you guess I don't know I was in band anybody

else in band when this came around oh yeah played this music yeah like we actually did it as our uh whatever yearly concert we played this all we did it all one of the things i had underrated in the uh in my memory is just the earlier scenes of them like seeing the dinosaurs for the first time and the performances of everybody just being like, Whoa, this is fucking amazing. Like I'm looking at a dinosaur. Like that's,

that's really a big part of the movie is like how the performances of people just being so fucking blown away by the fact that dinosaurs are there. Whereas, you know, I feel like in the more recent Jurassic park movies, they're just kind of like, eh, yeah, there's a dinosaur.

Because that's the dinosaur movie. Oh, you're new to Earth, bro? Yeah, but I hadn't seen the teaser for the new Jurassic Park movie, the third of the Jurassic World films. Are you still going with those? Yeah. And well, first of all, so the second, which I thought was like kind of didn't do well, was actually a monster hit. Like overall, it was just like people were kind of tired of writing about it, but it's basically the san diego scene from lost world but just everywhere in the world uh everyone's in the pool together um and the trailer looks dope so i am holding out hope that they're going to make a second good jurassic park movie because uh this movie is fucking lit um oh just a quick thing that uh That font is called Neuland. Neuland?

Yeah, and it's used on American Spirits. It uses that same sort of font and a bunch of stuff. It became a very influential font after, or it's been around. But this guy, this German typesetter made it, I guess, in the 30s. Hell yeah, dog. Anyways, five stars. Great movie. I guess I'll have to check it out, man.

It's what you said. Yeah, you guys should. Yeah, it's pretty cool. What would you rate the Jaws movie? Jaws? Yeah, what would you rate it? Jaws? Did you just say Jaws?

What did you say? Yeah, I'd go five stars for Jaws as well. I just like movies a lot. But I mean, do you think there's a difference though? Because who created the Jaws story for that script, for that screenplay? Peter Benchley. And then a man who I met when I was on a podcast. Oh yeah.

I want to go fact yourself. Yeah. Go fact yourself. Well, cause I'm just thinking of like how there's like source, like if, if there's a difference in the source material where like Spielberg's trying to adapt a Michael Crichton novel, like that's a, you know, if that's a different, I source material where like spielberg is trying to adapt a michael crichton novel like that's it right you know if that's a different i'm just trying to see if maybe you could see the potential for jurassic park being on the same level of jaws for you personally it doesn't matter i mean no they did the very best this is a perfect idea for a movie and the

perfect execution of that idea like they they it couldn't have been done any better because like you can't not show the dinosaur right yeah there you go uh but you can't not show the dinosaurs because like the like it just doesn't work as well if it's right you know and then i don't know they they just nailed it so fucking hard and get guess What do you think the budget of this movie was? Jurassic Park? Yeah, Jurassic Park. In like $93? Yeah. You're going to get it.

$75 million? $60. Shit, I knew there was something around there. Unbelievable. That's like a $200 million film now. Yeah. You know, at minimum. Before marketing.

And it wouldn't be as good now because people were like, you can't do all these things. You won't be able to pull it off. And so he had to like think through every shot and how the effect was going to be pulled off. Whereas now they would just like do it in computers. Which is what they do, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah.

they would just like do it in computers um which is what they do right yeah right yeah yeah and unless you're sick ass director like fucking our boy chris nolan man he likes to do so much shit in camera dog that's like his secret dude that's why he's the goat bro i mean now you're talking about the greatest director of all time bro dude oh yeah okay how about this what if chris nolan did jaws and jurassic park dude those would be the best films ever those would be the best movies ever dude jaws verse Jaws versus Jurassic Park. Yeah. And then he like gets Mick G to write the script.

That would be tight. Exactly, dude. Hell yeah. All right, Spider Muffins, let's head out, man. Let's go grab some more beer. Brody 2 and we're done, right? Brody 1, Brody 2.

Spider Muffins. Samantha, as always, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you so much. Where can people find you and follow you? Okay, you can follow me on Twitter at McVeighSamantha at Twitter or on Stuff Mom Never Told You with MomStuffPodcast at Twitter

or on Instagram, McVeighSam, or on Stuff Mom Never Told You Instagram. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I'm not going to lie with the new NRA stuff, the March for our lives with their sending prayers and thoughts. That's been my delight. I'm not,

I've been enjoying that. Miles, where can people find you and what's tweet you've been enjoying? Let's see. You can find me on Twitter and instagram at miles of gray also on the other podcast for 20 day fiance if you watch 90 day fiance come by check it out we just recapped the show talk some ish uh a tweet that i like is this is someone did a screen grab uh allison agosti at allison agosti just took a screen grab of when ellen was on comedians getting cars or comedians coffee cars

was signed ford uh and and so this is they're them they're in a coffee shop and it's a discussion about porsche de rossi and how she wants more horses and like it's just a screen grab one is just ellen with her arms crossed looking up and it just says but she wants a lot she wants lots more horses which i don't and then they cut to jerry and he's saying right but what does that got to do with you and then it goes back to ellen and she goes well you know it's a lot of horses it's just like this whole idea it's just so funny and then it she just said i knew ellen was evil when she wouldn't let porsche have more horses that's real though right that conversation that's real, though, right? That conversation. That's real.

Yeah. That was just you doing you were dead on Seinfeld. Yeah, that's what it is. I just, I can't help it. But yeah, what he said was right. So what does that have to do with you? But the screen grab is so great here. I'm just going to share this really quick

just so you can see. Oh, I'm not the host. But anyway, she's so forlorn. It's the perfect screen grab like with the subtitle because she's just looking down like, you know, it's a lot of horses, man. You know, I got a lot of horses, man. Anybody who watches that show and doesn't like feel like they're witnessing something evil happening, like just vaguely not like, oh, that person is like a killer or something but just like jerry seinfeld and like his line of questioning is so troubling to me i've always like not troubling

in any profound way just like he just seems like such a asshole um you know what though the one thing i do appreciate is at least he gets on to all his friends about not tipping like he made sure to let them know you're a dick if you don't tip well as a celebrity. So I will appreciate that one bit. And I also appreciate that he'll make fun of their houses if it looks like it costs anything less than $15 million. I thought you were rich.

I thought you were doing a good, having a good career. What is this shit hole? This is what HBO gets you. This is nothing. You might as well be riding around in a Segway. What do you drive? A Nissan Versa?

I'm just going to stay on just to hear this question. Just one more Ellen-based tweet is from at Matt Ranayeta. It says, the A in LGBTQIA stands for actually no, that's not the truth, Ellen. Some tweets I've been enjoying tara millet tweeted ted mosby in the year 2030 told the story of how he met his children's mother and he never mentioned the coronavirus once uh and then uh hxC underscore clam tweeted, what if the balls got hard too? And that's the sort of thing that I find funny. I would contact your doctor.

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