The Daily Zeitgeist - Vaxx Hesitancy Down? Ted Lasso Is An iPhone 9.1.21

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

In episode 981, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Like Mother star Alison Stevenson to discuss the South Dakota attorney general who killed a man, vaccine mandates, fake vaccine cards, movie theaters needing vaccine mandates, Mike Richards finally being fired, Ted Lasso and product placement, and more!FOOTNOTES: South Dakota Attorney General Who Killed Man in Crash Gets Speeding Ticket “I DID NOT KNOW IT WAS A MAN”: THE SURREAL STORY OF HOW A DEADLY CRASH UPENDED SOUTH DAKOTA POLITICS Axios-Ipsos poll: Vaccine hesitancy may be crumbling Can the US crack down on fake vaccination cards? Sony Surprises At CinemaCon With ‘Ghostbusters: Afterlife’ Screening For Movie Theaters, A Pivotal Fall Season Begins at CinemaCon Venom: Let There Be Carnage May Be Delayed Until 2022. Will More Fall Movies Follow? Delta Variant Disrupts Moviegoing Comfort Levels as Studios Worry Movie Theaters in Some Cities Now Check for Vaccine Proof, Raising Fears About Release Delays Vaccine Mandates Are ‘Mixed Bag’ for Movie Theaters, NATO CEO John Fithian Says (Video) The Way Forward for Movie Theaters Is Clear Mike Richards Out As EP On ‘Jeopardy!’ & ‘Wheel Of Fortune’ The Ted Lasso backlash was inevitable A Notchless Next-Gen iPhone Inexplicably Pops Up in Ted Lasso Apple’s Gadgets Co-Star in Its New TV Drama ‘Servant’ Review: Season 2 Is the Creepiest Ad for Apple Products Yet Apple won’t let bad guys use iPhones in movies, says Knives Out director Ted Lasso Ushers In A Powerful New Era In Product Placement LISTEN: Men I Trust - Sugar Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I want to see, want to see my neighbors. And if I see a friend, we might smoke. What's the word? Weed. Shout out to $1 William on the discord because yeah, you know, I'm biking around to get with the people people haven't had a random cypher yet with another person on the street but you know that's one dollar william half half price of two buck chuck is one dollar william exactly well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a comedian and writer who's appeared in live venues across this great land whose comedy has appeared everywhere from grantland vulture jezebel pace listed her as one of the 75 best twitter follows she's written several viral articles for vice and has appeared in the ariana grande video every day which has been watched more than most superbowls you can hear her on

the audible podcast like mother and on her very funny stand-up album eat me and mommy issues please welcome back to the show the hilarious and talented alliston's alliston hi alliston allison stevenson what's up hi sorry kind of like alistair cook i mean i was like wait oh shit is that not me what's up allison that not my bio uh hi no yeah what's up how's it going not much to report on my ntbh yeah, yeah. Loved you in Truth Hounds. Loved you in Truth Hounds. Oh, thanks. Yeah. I think I make a two-second appearance where I say, like, big titty goth anime girls.

Yeah, anime girls in the Zoom call. Hell yeah. Anyway, is that a real tactic you use to make Zoom calls weird? Or is that a little bit of improv? It was accidental. But, like, it was real because, like, oh, my God, this is okay. So, in my old apartment, when I would do Zoom calls, I have, like, a bunch of, like, vintage, like, the only wall in my room where I could realistically do a Zoom call. In the back of me were all these, vintage porno like photos of like naked women and because you know i'm a collector it's like it's just you know it's beautiful uh so all these

as long as you're not on a call with jeffrey tubin you should be all right exactly but then i was like damn well okay some of these zoom calls are like professional so i'm like how do i cover up the nudity right and so the only thing i had other than that were stickers that i could put over the things but the stickers were like a big teddy anime girls but at least they were clothed. Right. Right. So I put those over the frame photos. Like, realistically, I probably should have just taken everything down. But for a minute, that for me was like a solution. Like, okay, they're not going to see straight up naked, vintage naked women. They're going to see like half naked cartoon women.

Perfect. Right. And you know, who uses the blur background feature anyway? Right. Amateurs. Screw that. Also something I could have thought about as a solution.

Yeah. Oh, man. Miles, you are currently blurred in the background, so that just, you know, puts the question in our mind, what kind of wild shit does Miles have going on back there?

There's just a bunch of loose laundry and shit that I had to pull out of the dryer. And I just don't want to, like, hear my mother's voice in the background. Like, why didn't you fold it? Why didn't you put before a Zoom call? You didn't fold your... Just ease up, okay? I had a lot to do. And now my allergies are kicking in again.

Oof. Yeah, man. You're looking like the before in an allergy commercial a little bit. okay, I've got a lot to do, and now my allergies are kicking in again. Oof. Yeah, man. You're looking like the before in an allergy commercial a little bit. Yeah, well, you know, I've got to stop itching my eyes. Yeah, yeah. I guess, you know, what do they know, the doctors? Is there, like, something new in bloom or something? It's just my seasonal.

You know, every episode has begun with talks of my allergies, but it's just seasonal allergies. It's that early fall shit and the summer shit. And now we have a fire season layered on top. I'm sure there's some bad shit kicking up there. Got the easterly winds coming from the Salton Sea with all sorts of 1950s agricultural chemicals and poisons that have now turned into desert dust. So we're good. It's a lot of good breathable shit out here.

Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right, Allison, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We have an update on the story about Jason Roundsburg, who is a South Dakota's attorney general. And we mentioned before that he had killed somebody with his car in a hit and run. Came back the next day after like getting his story straight and was like, oh, I thought I hit a deer. So we're going to we're going to get a very unsatisfying update on that story. We're going to get some good news about how people are adapting to vaccine

mandates and then some bad news about how people are adapting to vaccine mandates. We'll check in with Mike Richards, see how his plot for world domination is going. We'll check in with the Ted Lasso debate and also just general Apple product placement on their streaming platform. And we will talk about whether the movies are coming back and whether they should be using vaccine mandates at the cinema. All of that, plenty more. But first, Allison, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay.

So, this is actually something I was thinking about last night. And I did search for images of it. It was literally, I just put the words Jennifer Lopez Fedora. And, okay, I feel like nobody is discussing this. And, like, I'm like, do i want to be the person to to do this but like she has such an insane fedora collection i feel like i don't know is that in my head or she wears a lot of fedoras wow i didn't think of it like as her having a collection but i do think of her rocking a fedora like it's very easy to picture j-lo with

a fedora almost as easy as her in that like green versace dress from the vmas like i could be like that there's there's two j-los versace dress j-lo and fedora wearing j-lo but does she have a do we know like did you find well have a collection? What's behind that? I actually couldn't find that many, but I'm like, why is it in my head that Jennifer Lopez is like a fedora person? And I think it's just like two photos I saw on Instagram, but like that photo that everybody was sharing of her and Ben being back together. Right. She had some birthday fedora on. Very snazzy little number. Right.

And I was like, I did the I'm real video that she's wearing like a straw, like fedora. I remember, I think that's what my biggest thing is in from that video. She's rocking a fedora. Maybe I just can't. I just made that her whole existence.

Yeah. No. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. It's like, for some reason I couldn't find that many photos of her wearing a fedora. But I'm like, sums up because she does wear fedoras.

Yeah. And she loves a hat, though. Yeah. She's big on hats. Up and down. Yeah. And I'm like. I picture her with the, like, page boy cap for some reason.

Like that 2000s kind of puffy page boy cap. Oh, yeah. And but I think that's just because I originally got to know her back in the, in living color days when I feel like she was dancing as a fly girl, as a fly girl. Yeah. I, there just needs to be something set.

Like we need to, I want to be like, we need to talk about JLo's hats. Yeah. It's like, come on. Ooh. And she's got the very flat brim.

Yeah. Which is the wave right now. The closer to God or something. I don't know. So the big brim is Fedora, right? Because I always get that confused with whatever Bruno Mars wore for the first half of his career.

The little hat. Oh, the tiny brim. The Fedora. Fedora is like the most annoying guy hat. Come on, you remember Tim Robinson's I Think You Should Leave. These are Stanzo brand fedoras, man. Right, but those are different than the annoying guy hats. Well, they're the same

style. I mean, it's a shorter brim overall. Right, the shorter brim hat is the one that I'm picturing when I say fedora, but I feel like they're not. I think what I'm guilty of is I just attribute every hat that to me looks like an obnoxious hat. I just call it a fedora. Yeah. Right, right, right.

There you go. And I'm like, why is J-Lo wearing this? Why is she into fedoras? Like, I feel like she needs to be stopped, personally. She's perfect otherwise. fedoras. I feel like she needs to be stopped personally. She's perfect otherwise. The only thing you need to be a fedora, it's got to be low,

soft felt hat, or not always soft felt because you'll see I'm made out of urban materials, but a curled brim and the crown creased lengthwise. Oh, that's what makes it a fedora. That makes it a fedora. Yeah, I've got the genealogy of fedoras

in front of me and that is correct. There's many different species of fedora. Right, right, right. Yeah. Okay, got it. They've all had to evolve in different climates and adapt to different environments. So they have different skills. And they all breastfeed their offspring.

What is something you think is overrated? Yeah, I don't know honestly i feel like somebody must have said this at some point but i'm just gonna throw out almonds okay when he talked about almonds yeah no i mean i mean they take up way too much water yeah yeah yeah and they just kind of taste like shit. Yeah. It's like, what if peanuts were made of wood? You know? What if peanuts were made of wood? That's the vibe, though.

That is the vibe. They're like splintering your mouth. I'm with you. I don't like it. Yeah, a raw almond is just like... I have the same thing with carrots. It's just something about the texture. It's just bad.

I'm not the biggest fan of carrots. We gotta stop. And they're bad for all that water they use up. Yeah, no, fuck almonds, for real. Does this extend to almond milk for you? Yes, it does. It does. Because we have oat milk now.

So we don't need almond milk anymore. And coconut milk, if you're trying to replace, like, whole fatty milks, coconut milk is really good. Yeah. And you know what? People don't fuck with coconut milk, which I think is wrong. I feel like coconut milk is underrated. Yeah. Maybe that should be my underrated

wait so you're saying you're the two of you like you just look at almonds and you're like get them away from me because i like a i mean look i like a roasted almond i'm not okay it's a thing it's got to be roasted right yeah? Yeah, yeah. Not in its natural form. Well, most of the nuts we eat are roasted, right? On some level. Like, I don't eat raw cashews. I don't eat raw peanuts. I don't eat raw nuts. You know what I mean?

Ow. But you know how it is. I'm saying, like, raw cashews, delicious. Oh, raw cashews are delicious. Yeah. Naturally delicious. Obviously better with extra, you know, roasting, flavoring. Sure, sure, sure.

Ice. But I think au naturel cashews are fucking dope. Okay. I just, I feel like almonds became the default nut at some point in the past like 10 years. Right. Like over peanuts. Yeah. Yes.

The healthier alternative. Yeah, big almond has been lobbying hard. I think it's something like a gallon per nut. A gallon of water per nut. It's insane. Knock it off.

We don't need almonds. That's where I'm like, we don't need almonds that bad. They're not even that good. I don't think they're that good. When you look at the water usage like the little like curbs that they put on consumer like water consumption like regular gen pop water consumption like makes the smallest dent in the world when you compare it to just like doing anything to agriculture, like because they just like use all the water. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, when you go down, it's like, yeah, this is how much water an almond takes. It's like, yeah, but what about all the livestock? That's where the real water is fucking going. Yeah. Shit. What's something you think is underrated?

Allison? Also, I can't remember if I said this last time I was on the show, but it's something I'm passionate about, which is hamsters. Hmm. Did I say? I don't know. Maybe I didn't. I can't remember. But I have a pet hamster.

His name is Skip. Hmm. And I just got to, I'm trying to just preach let them know it's not a bad idea to have a pet hamster in fact i think they should just be for adults and not for kids personally oh wait wait so why is that let me know why is it a good adult companion well it's not a toy it's a human it's not human it's a life human being yeah it's a human being trapped in the soul of a rodent no that's the thing they're very finicky like i bought my hamster on an impulse not realizing how much work it really takes to have an i mean once you get the

hang of it it's not a lot of work but initially i was like oh damn these things are like very precious and like they're so fragile and they need circumstances like the cages are in size like they need to have this amount of food like this stuff and it's like what kid is gonna know how to do this right you know like so you found yourself being like kid if i can't have a fucking kid can't handle this yeah exactly and then kids like just throw them around and abuse them and just like you know they're like oh let's see what how far we can throw them or whatever and it's just like hey we've all been there like kids fuck up their hamsters yeah i think that's how parents like test if their kid's a sociopath or something is to see like how they treat a hamster oh i'm assuming i don't know as a kid i was always like not interested in like those

kinds of pets like that would have a cage i was like that's just weird i'm not like what like what happens if you fucking it gets loose i remember we had a class mouse in middle school and yo i have yo i'm not gonna say her name because i know she still feels bad about it one of my classmates shorty straight stepped on the fucking mouse because it got out the cage and we didn't know and like it was like comedic it was it was like one of these things where we were we were sort of spared the gruesomeness of it because it merely just looked like it had flattened like pancake like no gore about it but we were just like oh my god and like people the kids were like crying and

shit it was like a whole thing and i was like see i don't fuck with these weird things because when they get out people freak out somebody c walked on one and send it to an early grave it's just a bad situation damn she walks with a heavy foot that young lady because i feel it was the second i felt something underfoot but yeah i guess we're if you're wearing a panic though if you're wearing shoes you probably wearing like those thick sold like rocket dog type motherfucker shoes back then like you can't i mean yeah i'm sorry r.i.p to the class it's like what is that that's slippery yeah and then like people wouldn't let it go. You know what I mean? They're like, well, she fucking killed it. You know what I mean?

And we're like, yo, let it go. Like, it was traumatic for everybody. And, like, plus, we hated that stinky motherfucker anyway. So let's just move on. Wow. But they genuinely are very nice, cute pets to have, especially if you live in an apartment that doesn't allow like cats or dogs like that's how it was for me for a while and i was like okay fuck it let's get a hamster

and i was pleasantly surprised by like how nice it is to have a cute little right critter do you like it's out the cage and you just kind of free vibe with it no he i mean he has like a little ball he goes in the ball and can like roll around the room but not yeah no i wouldn't let him out would you ever like it's like you could take a nap with the hamster like no they're not chill like that like they'll let you hold them and they'll like crawl around you but like they don't they don't nap on you i mean maybe some do mine does not just very hyper always trying to run away they can't love you there's no like emotional connection god damn it you can love them but you can love them and that's how most of my relationships are anyway so

i mean that's that's parenthood right there yeah you know the kids say they love you and they act like they love you but like you know the giving tree was right ultimately it's just, you know, the giving tree was right. Ultimately, it's just like, you know, the kids grow up and they're like, God, you're so fucking lame. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and we will be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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He killed a man named Joseph Bover in September of 2020. He was driving home from a Republican Party event. No word on, you know, if he had had something to drink. Well, he took a blood test 15 hours later. Oh, so. They didn't find blood. They didn't find alcohol oh god he was on his phone and rammed his car into bover who was walking on the shoulder and told the cops hey i thought i hit an animal so i just went home but i wasn't entirely sure i was like huh it might be a deer i don't know man you know you know how it is and you're like driving and you hit something and you don't know, man. You know, you know how it is.

And you're like driving and you hit something and you don't know what it was at all. But even though it could have been a large animal. Yeah. So you just drive off. Yeah. So he then came back and claims to his surprise, there is a dead human there. And an investigator pointed out, and I think this is the last time that we checked in with this story, was that the deceased man's glasses were inside the South Dakota attorney general's car. What?

Yeah. This investigator said, yeah, the glasses are in your car, meaning the face came through your windshield. And he's like, his face is in your windshield. Think about it. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. Was it? That could have been a deer. And then there's like in this guy's notes, this investigator like note, he said, I was in a meeting with a group of investigators.

And I said, how many of you hit a deer? Every single one in that room like like raised their hands so then he said how many of you did not know you hit a deer every single one of them knew they hit a deer right it wasn't like some big thing where it's you know some mononoke like miyazaki whimsical fucking creature you hit and you don't know what it was. Like half human, half deer. Right. Right. And he still played dumb, was still really playing dumb. And the guy, even in the investigation, said his face is in your windshield. Think about it.

Yeah. And yeah, I think we should all think about it when we find out that he's just charged with three misdemeanors, use of an electronic device while driving, illegal lane change, and careless driving jesus yeah so hmm do you think there's anything like political at work here well this is the thing like it's it's split the like the whole like south dakota south dakota south dakota political machine because like christy gnome who who's their governor, was like, yo, you should resign. She was even like, this is fucking weird, dude. You should resign.

He did not. He was like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that at all. And this guy, he's kind of got he's got that sort of Trump pedigree. Like he was one of those attorneys general who signed on to like that lawsuit to try and overturn the election at the end of last year, like is a unique relationship to the truth. Yes, 100 percent. And he sees himself as a powerful man. And, you know, a lot of people say like in South Dakota, because it's like a very spread out place with a very small government, it it allows for unique political scandals of corruption and things like that. There have been times where like people

were like funneling money out of like a visa program and then the person who was at the center of it like just died mysteriously and then there was another thing where another like scandal was going on with money that was supposed to go to reservations and like that was being funneled somewhere else and then that person ended up doing like like a murder suicide but the safe of their house was gone after the house burned down there's so a lot of people like this doesn't really have much to do with like roundsburg or whatever his whole thing is but it's more just sort of saying like there's all you know this is kind of this sort of things happen like this in south dakota and on top of it they said there was like a sheriff who basically wasn't really a sheriff kind

of guy. He's more like, if you got caught drunk driving, like he'd give you a ride home. If like he knew you. Yeah. He's like the Michael Clayton for Republicans. He just goes through and fixes some problems for people.

But, but mostly just by like being bad at his job, you know, it's just more like, I don't know. Cause even that guy, he said he even back to like yeah i don't know we went out there and looked at we didn't see a deer until like a

couple days later it was a body so oh whoops either like the only way his story makes sense is if he was like shockingly drunk and didn't know like the only way it makes sense it's either he was shockingly drunk and just was like ah shit i hit something but then like found the person's glasses inside his car like when he got right because he was just completely out of his mind or he knew exactly what he did and an intentional murder yeah i mean we don't know now his, like, the biggest things he's looking at are a speeding ticket and, like, fines that don't even amount to, like, $2,000. I mean, there's got to be a civil case coming for his ass, right? Yeah, I don't know. But he called the police on himself?

Was, like, I think I hit a deer? He did, yeah. He was in the car. And the 911 call, he called like right after the impact was made. And he was like, hey, I think I may have hit something. And then like the 911 operator was like, okay, what do you mean? Like an object? An animal?

Was it a deer? That's what the 911 operator says. And he's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, maybe a deer. Could have been a deer. That's what the 911 operator says. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, maybe a deer. Could have been a deer. Oh, my God. You can tell that's him trying to be smart, trying to, like, already be a deer. The 911 operator is the one who first mentioned the deer.

Gave him the alibi. Yeah. Oh, my God. Because they were just trying to be like, what are you saying, bro? Like, what'd you fucking hit? He's like, oh, yeah, a deer. Yeah, I hit a deer. So I'm going to go home.

But it's just kind of like you know we always just look at the kinds of people who occupy these higher offices right and you're the top cop of this state and you're some guy who's like refusing to resign even though you admit you freaking at the very least at the most optimistic version of this is that he was distracted and tragically killed a pedestrian and still drove off. Yeah. You know, and yet you still can't have the wherewithal to be like, yeah, that's not I. Actually, I'm going to resign. This is this is a bad situation for everyone.

I don't mean to be a distraction, but they also think that, like, you know, there's a little bit of infighting, too. And like the Republican Party within there. And that's why, like, Noam was throwing this guy under the bus. But it also feels like just very straightforward case of like, yeah, you should resign more than any kind of gaming. Right. But he feels like he needs to represent the Maga Nesh. Yeah. In South Dakota.

So he's he cut a deal with the prosecutors. He hasn't commented yet since this time what he'll do he can still run for re-election no word yet as to whether or not he'll do that but he definitely hasn't said he's not going to and he's you know as of now he said he has no plan to resign are you guys gonna make this election about that time when I hit a guy with my car and his head came through my windshield and I drove off because that's not fair. He's a very deer-like head.

South Dakota people don't want to talk about that. They want to talk about the issues. They want to talk about the immigrants that are coming to South Dakota. They want to talk about how we should replace Abraham Lincoln's face on mount rushmore with donald trump's thank you wait that's not a real thing is it well i don't know he's a trump supporter

i could see it yeah yeah and also for the talk of him like trump's like you know abraham lincoln was a republican so right and i'm kind of the greatest republican now so maybe just saying trump reagan uh nixon the best not even trump wouldn't even allow anyone else right and then at the end just doing different facial expressions right it's like this four-headed hydra mountain. Right. All right. Let's talk about vax mandates because this is kind of positive news. A new poll has found that vaccine hesitancy is on a downward trend. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. 72% of adults now say they've already taken the vaccine. Another 8% say they're likely to take it. The 20% who said they're either not very likely or not at all likely are a new low in the survey. Yeah. So normally it was about in March, they said it was 34% of people polled were making up this group saying they were either not very likely or not at all likely was at 34%. And that was in March. Two weeks ago, it was at 23%. And this go around, it's at 20%. So it's kind of, it's contracting. And yeah, and even like there's even parents now

who are saying that, you know, they're gonna be vaccinated, but they're also gonna make sure their kids are vaccinated or are likely to as soon as it's permitted for that age group. And that's the highest share ever in the survey. And a 12 point spike from 56 percent just two weeks ago. So 56 percent two weeks ago, parents were like, yeah, man, I'm not I don't fit. Only 56 percent were saying they were going to get vaccinated. Now we're at 68 percent. Yeah So, you know, that's, that's huge.

I know people who got vaccinated themselves, but are like, I know some people who have like, let it take over their like entire lives. Like the idea that they're going to make us vaccinate our kids and like that, you know, just abject terror at that idea. And now they've come around. No, they have not. So I'm really happy to see this

because I do think the, you know, once it's approved for children, the getting children vaccinated is going to be a real fight. Well, yeah, I mean, right now they make up for the largest group of unvaccinated people in the country. Our kids.

Right, because they can't be vaccinated. And looking at all the anecd they can't you know and looking at all the anecdotal evidence you know around i'm sure people like you know so a lot of people are asking what's driving the trend clearly i'd imagine the delta variant is giving people new data to work with which is like holy shit dude i know a lot of people who either got it or i know someone who passed away or gotten serious health trouble with it yeah and it and also it's not like their favorite radio personalities that keep going down dying of covid who start off being on anti-vax they're not pulling some tupac macaveli fake

death stunt says you says you miles all right you don't know they they're not pulling a stunt they're not pulling a macaveli stunt. The FBI might be taking them out, though, dude. Right. FDA, FBI begin with the same letter. Coincidence? Thank you. They know too much. Right.

So they know too much. They know COVID's real. The whole thing, though, is that more than all of those things combined, it's just the fact that the the vaccine mandates have created a different environment where now people are kind of getting over their shit because they're like oh all right like must be this tall to ride well i want to ride so before it was easy to just kind of sneak on with my thick sold shoes to make the height requirement but now i think because more and more you're seeing employers and like school districts and things like that mandating it, that it's becoming, you know,

just more commonplace. They say one in three unvaccinated Americans in the survey said FDA approval would make them likely to take the vaccine. But 43% said their boss requiring vaccinations would make them likely to do so, which is up from 33 percent. Only 30, you know, a month ago, only a third were saying, well, if it's required, maybe I'll do it. So it's, you know, it's something. Yeah. All right. That's like a bonus, a pro to capitalism, I guess. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's how I know it works. You know, again, there's been there've been a lot of tweets like that and just in generally even if for the people who are vaccine hesitant and try and bring up all these like sort

of theories about like well you know the pharmaceutical companies and blood yes that's true there's a lot of fuckery going on with big pharma there's that's undeniable but when you know that there's the whole like foundation of consumer capitalism, like it requires healthy consumers. You're damn right. The fucking vaccine is going to work. They're not going to pivot to some new form of an economy just to be like, oh, yeah, we don't fucking do with this vaccine. It's yeah. Yeah, it works.

And even in your most cynical read, you're like, that's it. It's probably working. That's why they want it. So. Yeah. read you're like that's it it's probably working that's why they they want it so yeah and i mean it's a true it's the social pressure that i think everybody's used to when it comes to vaccines which is no that's fine you don't need to get the vaccine you got you've got your kid all day they can't come to our school like that's that's coming into effect more and more which you know is why i think we're seeing these wild ass scenes at

school board meetings, because that is like, this is hopefully their last, like, you know, desperation, like death throes of the movement, because they're not going to successfully be able to get them to be like, nah, you're right. We were too trusting of the vaccine. And we also were planning on harvesting your kids' adrenochrome. Like, it's just not going to happen. So hopefully, you know, schools are just going to do the vaccine mandate as soon as it's FDA approved for kids, which I guess is going to be a while. I guess it's going to be a while, but. Right. I mean, at best, right? Like, they'll be like, all right. It's like everything they get into.

It's like, oh, fuck. All right. Well, we're off the new culture war thing of like the masks and like our Christian, like, right to, you know, free our faces because Jesus. Once that melts away, it'll just go right back to like rigged elections. Yeah. Because that's always what it's. That's the thing powering a lot of it now, is just this idea that it's like, we're losing control.

Yeah. But one thing that is interesting in this poll, they said just at the very last sort of finding, which was, quote, the share of Americans who say they feel hopeful right now has plummeted to 34%. That's from 48% in March. But those saying they feel motivated, energized, inspired, or resilient has risen by at least as much. I like that for us.

Which is interesting. Yeah, we're not like optimistic because, yeah, we've lived through the past two years. We've lived through the past six years. But we're energized and feeling resilient. I like that for America right right now that's what i think i feel like that's where we need to be yeah but we'll see i mean that could be like yeah i'm feeling resilient against the tyranny but they said that that like the hope has gone down and the resiliency has gone feelings of motivation, and energy have increased by as much as that margin.

Like they seem to be related based on this analysis. Yeah. That's an interesting little pairing there. Yeah. Put on your little pandemic bootstraps, America. Here we go. Also, I feel like hope has a bad name after the Obama administration. Like people are like, I don't feel just hope.

Yeah. What's called optimism. I mean, and that's been the general trend because in March it was like hot vax everything, you know, and be like, it's fine. And they were like, no, it's not actually. What the fuck are we doing? Oh, man. Yeah. But I guess along with that, just as much as people want to do the right thing, there's just a growing number of people who also want to sidestep the whole vaccine mandate thing and this is where you see capitalism really going to work

so yeah like if you go on instagram you'll see there there are these accounts and all over social media that promise vaccine cards from anywhere from like 50 bucks to like 500 bucks and they'll send like yo we got the real shit we got some nice vaccine cards we got the cdc one if you're in the uk we got the nhs fucking joints what the fuck do you need we've got it uh no questions asked pay us through uh apple pay or bitcoin shipping is quick and you will be deceiving your employers in no time and yeah there's just been i been over the last couple of weeks, we've seen an increase of like stories that are just around like the use of these cards or like

the feds busting shipments last week in like Tennessee and in Alaska, the feds got over like 6000 vaccination cards, like in different shipments that were from China that were like, basically destined for people across the U.S. who were trying to get in on that, you know, that replica, that rep vaccine card. And they were all printed with the CDC logo and like looked super, super close. They said, however, when when officials looked closer, they noticed spelling mistakes and poor printing quality. So they weren't quite one toto-one as we say in the world but yeah it's it's it's this is going to be a thing because we have the dumbest looking

vaccination cards it is yeah i was just trying to find mine to just like evaluate it because it really looks like shit like it really is just a piece of paper yeah it's like someone's handwriting on it. Mine has whiteout on it for some reason. Mine, I think, gets more scrutiny than a fake one would. Because people are like, why is this whited out? Did they spell your name wrong or something? No, it's typed over the whiteout as Pfizer and the date that I got it.

The first dose look i'm i used to dabble in the extra legal entrepreneurial arts and when i was at dodger stadium getting my vaccine there was just a pile of them shits like yeah the cards just out in the open i was like bro you could just swipe this shit right now and sell this shit and get it going. But I'm a better person now. I'm an adult who feels more responsible to the people around me. And I was just like, it was sort of blowing my mind that I'm like, well, if I'm thinking this, you know, people could work there, take a couple, sell them off on the side and make good money. Because we don't have anything that's even remotely close to having any kind of like security features built into like our money you know what i mean like try it with that there's

no like put it under a black light and there's like a thing that's like only the cdc paper has or whatever like there's nothing like that it's literally just a piece of paper yeah and i don't get why like all these branches are so bad at like even the unemployment website was like 20 years behind like how do these people not know how to get with the times because they defunded it all like for the past 40 years in our entire lifetime like there's been this idea like from the center out that like small government is the answer. Defund government programs because they just make people lazy. And then like the people who want to use government programs are the onuses on them to basically be the bureaucrats.

So you have a full time job trying to like figure out how to use anything. And it's a complete fucking mess well yeah and i think a lot of people who work in any kind of bureaucracy federally municipally whatever it there's also just like a lack of fresh people in there it's like lifers that work there yeah and then like they just can't adapt even if like a city passes a budget to do something different it to them. And like they're like, I don't know how to think about this differently than the way we've just been doing it because I just don't I'm not really inspired by my work sometimes. And, you know, that's why it's frustrating for the people that do work at these places. Like, it's so easy. If we just did this, it would be so much easier for people to get access to things, but it just takes a super long time. And like, again, I posted a picture like in the doc of just like this, like one version of an Instagram ad where the fucking account name it's been taken down, but it's called it was COVID-19 underscore vaccination cards in USA zero. And they're saying like, we got them hit us up at this like WhatsApp number. And Instagram says they're saying like we got them hit us up at this like whatsapp number and instagram says they're taking them down but a lot of the people like in this bbc article they were saying that it was even though they take them down there were plenty of other ones they could find very quickly

so they're playing like this fucked up whack-a-mole game with these counterfeit accounts coming up and buying instagram ads for this well no, no, not buying Instagram ads, but if you use the... It's all hashtag-based, too, because if you start getting into the hashtags, you can find things. And I'm sure just aggressively, if you're just like,

I don't know, maybe there's a username called vaccination cards for COVID USA. You know what I mean? And you're like, oh, there's one. But the UK and Denmark, they're either using or are developing like digital sort of mechanisms to make it fucking harder. Because what use is it to have vaccine mandates if you can't actually have like determined who has been vaccinated or not? Yeah.

And you go by like, well, who's clever enough to just get a card? Well, there are like digital records. At least I know here in L.A., like if you got vaccinated, there is a digital record. And I think you can even make it like put it on your passport, like on your iPhone. Yeah. Yeah. For that. But then there's ones that like it's harder, right?

Like depending on who, like if you went to a different county or like a different, you got it from a doctor or something, it could be different. And so that card just makes it the thing that like most people can rely on to verify. But if you go any place I've been that says like you have to show proof of vaccination, it's like you can bring your little rinky dink card and show it to somebody who's like, yeah, OK. They showed me a square that said CDC on it. So fine. Come on in. Or it's like or you know just like bring a picture of it yeah you're like well that's even easier than faking a fucking hard copy you could just photoshop that mug and you got a fake vaccine card yeah there definitely needs to

be a standardized like app that ever that's what israel was doing like from jump like they had an app that like you brought up it had like a moving picture that like people could scan and that would tell you for sure so like it's not a thing that could be photoshopped it's not a still image it's not a like they had a a very like detailed system for it like i don't i have an idea i have an idea. I have an idea. What if when we got the shot itself, they could put like a chip that would go like in our body that they could then track

and then that would know you would just have to like yeah, yeah, yeah, it would just like glow or something or they could just scan you real quick so you'd have that chip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would just like glow or something. Or they could just scan you real quick. So you'd have that chip. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like how you chip a dog.

Yeah, yeah. Subdermal. Yeah, yeah. I think that'd be really cool. And it could run on like Windows 95 or something. If you wanted to like. Yeah, for sure. XP.

Whatever you want. Look at it. But, yeah, I think the reason, you know, maybe things could change in the U.S. Although there's no like real, I think, like articulated plan to have these like digital passes is that a lot of the business owning community is like, what about like, couldn't we be liable if someone comes in with a fake card and like anything bad were to happen because we let people in with fake cards or like we didn't know? And like the whole thing is going to boil down to cards or like we didn't know and like the whole thing is going to boil down to whether or not we could determine if a card was fake or not that could be a concern so i don't know i'm sure there's there's there's probably a little bit of sweating on that side because a lot of like like people who work at bars kind of say the same thing

it's like it's kind of hard to tell if you you know, you're not really trained to, like, identify a fraudulent card versus a real one. Yeah. But the main thing is they need to be doing the vaccine mandate. Like, that's first order of business. Yeah, because it works. And after this break, we are going to talk about a group that is dragging their heels, movie theaters, and why they need to just fucking make it a mandate already. We will be right back. I've been thinking about you.

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But the overall message of the convention was, it's time to come back to the movie cinemas, as the head of NATO said. This dude, John Fithian, literally said, people are dying to get back to the theaters. Probably not the best back to the theaters. Literally. Probably not the best way to phrase that. Right. People are dying in service of the industry restarting. Is that what you mean? And so we are in like another slowdown at the box office because every, you know, people are justifiably freaked out by uh the delta

the uh what's it called you know the thing that's uh killing all the people but so they're starting to delay releases again and that's like freaking all the studios out clifford the big red dog movie i mean that's when that's when i said enough is enough with that's when the head of nato had to get involved yeah i'm assuming nato is like national association alliance of theater owner yeah okay no i like the north atlantic treaty organization it's like no yeah i did go through this entire story thinking that it was the head of nato nato like the the big one well let's because i just for fun. Just for funsies. Let's assume it is. Yeah.

Venom 2 has been delayed by a month and they're blaming. They're blaming like the vaccine, but they're just trying to like basically comfort people into coming back to the theaters without actually doing the thing that is going to make people comfortable, which is a vaccine mandate. Like they just. Right. For some fucking reason i i mean i know the reason they're they're worried that it's gonna you know their theaters are gonna be the sites of like a bunch of protests and angry you know right-wingers and like there has to be something more at work there like perhaps just among theater owners they are also anti-vaxxers or something because it just doesn't it doesn't make sense that they would not put the vaccine mandate in place wait so this is like they all got together and agreed you like unanimously not to do vaccine

mandates like nobody's doing this yeah nobody's doing it like what's stopping like a random owner of a movie theater from doing that themselves yeah i mean well yeah i mean probably depends on the you know of the thousands of theaters who knows like only a handful are probably even taking those steps but because you think of right the reason people aren't going is because they don't feel comfortable given the pandemic and even though like there was a little bit i mean shit even i had optimism like right after i got my second dose and i was fully vaccinated i'm like shit i can go to a fucking movie and then i was like wait hold on with we we haven't actually handled this and now there's a delta variant then i found myself being like fuck that i can go to a fucking movie ever again yeah yeah so and i think it's so it's odd they're not you know when you

think of well what's the easiest solution is like make the people want to think that this place isn't a vector for illness or at least a high risk activity. Yet it's still dragging. Yeah. So New York instituted like basically vaccine mandates for most activities, including going to the movies. most activities, including going to the movies. And rather than being like, all right, like, maybe this is what everybody should be doing. The head of the National Association of Theater Owners of New York is like, ah, damn, that's going to trigger another round of release delays. So it's just like that hyper near focus, like short term thinking is what's going on where they're like, but like some of the people won't be vaccinated and it'll like be a little bump in attendance and that'll scare the studios off essentially right but i don't know every time i've been to where vaccines are mandated

including like some organized by a small school some organized by a group of friends. Like, it's been very easy to implement. Granted, it's because like, you know, we're just looking at each other's vaccine cards and assuming that nobody's like faking them, but... Right. Like, some of the theater owners are like, it's going to be very difficult. We don't have the

infrastructure in place. And it's just like, what are you talking about? Infrastructure to check someone's vaccination status? Yeah. Like I, I got kicked out of lethal weapon three when I was like 13 for not being 17. Like, right.

And my dad bought me the ticket. So like they're, they, they've got eagle eyed, uh, theater people. Yeah. I mean,

although I don't know, there's a couple of theaters I used to go to fucking lawless. i went in some instances but at the end of the day like it's these just sound like really weird excuses or it does they completely don't have any imagination on how to do anything safely because they've just taken for granted that like they had like a recession-proof business or something that was like yeah people always like going to the movies. And it's like, wait, now I got to like think of how to make sure people aren't. I don't know. Well, it's going to be a lot longer until you do NATO.

Yeah. Is it just that you think most of your ticket buyers are the kind who would protest this? Right. most of your ticket buyers are the kind who would protest this right it's like i was not like that the super right wing hated movies and liberal media and all that stuff so yeah they make their own crap films right so it's like are they going to the theater anyway probably not yeah it's just weird it's like one of those things it's like they're like well i don't want to be the person to stand up to say what's right because there there's an element of friction that comes along with that. But it's like you're but you have to at a certain point, you have to do what's right. So fuck whatever you think people's response to that is going to be. You have to do what is going to be right. But I don't know why I think NATO or Natoni in the in the version of the New York subsect is going to do the right thing. It would be Tony, wouldn't it?

Hey, Tony. Hey. NATO NY, we see you. All right. Let's check in with Mike Richards. He gone. He gone. He gone.

Yeah. So, I mean, it was quick. It was like a week and a half ago that he announced himself as the replacement for Alex Trebek. Self-coronation. Yeah, put the crown on. A new detail in this report, in addition to them just being like, yeah, it became clear that it was going to be too much of a distraction to keep him at jeopardy and wheel for they're like no internal or external support for him everyone hated him the details that they he was pulled as host after a day of production

so i don't know if like people have assumed it was the timing of that ringer thing but i also like a detail in the ringer thing that they talked about is that like when he tried to make himself the host of the price is right when he took over as the ep or as a producer there the people were like man he's like really just not talented like he just he like knows he has a lot of enthusiasm but like that there's just like not much there i'm like when i watched his introduction where he's like hi i'm stepping in for ken jennings because he couldn't make it work uh which was a lie he was he's just like not a not a talented like person who you want to watch on tv. He just seems like a very excited, energetic,

but like, yeah, nothing. Basically, replacement level TV show host. Like a TV show host in like an 80s movie. What a long con, though. A mediocre white man managed to get to the highest heights again. Yeah.

What is happening here? I just don't know. But yeah mean he's just you know he's done he's i think he's also off uh wheel of fortune too like he's completely out at sony like he's not he has nothing to do with the shows at all so adios sir yeah and i think this was all well well done by the ringer and by public outrage and all that, because like people are like, why does everybody give a shit about Jeopardy? Like, you know, nobody really watches Jeopard giving himself all the advantages and like become giving himself a job that like the consumers would much rather see, like literally almost anyone else. Right.

And I mean, like, think of just the audience, though, too. These people like information. They like this isn't like frivolous game show where it's like name the fart or something. These are people who like getting really into details and information and researching your shit. That seems like a group would be like, this guy doesn't have the fucking goods, you know? And I think also a lot of people just were so hoping for like something life affirming, like Alex for back. Like, even if you didn't like jeopardy a lot, like you probably had seen it and you're like, Oh, there's like this energy about him.

That's great. That you'd want that. There were many people who came along. Oh, this could be good. This could be good. Only for Michael Richards. To see that right up.

Probably shouldn't say Michael Richards. Yeah. You know, they're all, they're all, they're all the same. Yeah. Now he's going to go off to the Island where Michael Richards. They're all the same. Now he's going to go off to the

island where Michael Richards is just hanging out after post-career. We're all bad Mike Richards go. Wait, is he on an island? No, I was just saying that would be funny if he and Craner start hanging out together now.

Right. Can you believe this shit? They should have a podcast called Can You Believe This Shit? That's a great idea. All right. And finally, I don't know, do you guys have,

have you guys seen Ted Lasso? Do you guys have strong feelings about Ted Lasso? I've not seen any of it. In the first season? I don't have strong feelings in either direction. mean it's it was cool it was it's it's easy to watch yeah goes down like yeah go hey dude ted lasso bros down easy

and goes down easy it's very you know feels fun and positive i liked it just for the little bit of you know footy humor but it wasn't like i definitely wasn't part of the group who like lost their minds about it but i also see why people enjoyed it because like if you really like are aware of your media diet something that feels like you know sprinkles on your tummy and fun and positive like ted lasso would probably get you like oh thank god because i can't keep watching things about how we fucked up the pandemic or murderous teachers or whatever the fuck else is on tv right so there is a online backlash happening because i mean it was like really a lot of positive energy coming out for it it won a bunch of awards and so i think a lot

of people were like catching up on it, first of all, and being like, Oh, this is like fine. But like, it's always harder for a show to like live up to the hype after it's won awards. And after people have like told you it's the greatest thing in the world. And then they,

at the, around that time, they dropped a second season that even like fans of the first season don't seem to particularly think is that great. Apparently nothing much happens. And the Christmas episode suggests Santa Claus literally exists. Oh yes. Thanks.

I'm back, baby. Uh, this is an interesting look for like a, a prestige TV comedy. Right. And yeah, I don't,

I don't really have a, have a dog in the fight i've seen the first few episodes and thought it was solid but not enough to like keep to seek it out well what's it's like it's like this other kind of thing it's like it's just so good you know like it's so nice and icy yeah yeah that yeah i think maybe maybe for me, as much as I like nicey-nicey, you know, I need a little grit, too. It can't just be all sugar. I need a little fucking anthrax mixed up in there, just a little bit of poison just to make you feel that life's a little bit darker. But, yeah, I guess it's like adult Mr. Rogers that's soccer-themed and has iPhones.

Yeah. That's interesting. I did not know any of this about the show like i've seen people tweeting about it but i thought it was the complete like the vibe i got was like that it was like about a depressed guy who's like an alcoholic or something am i just reading the tweets wrong i just like the vibe i think that was i think those are the people who are sending the tweets maybe Maybe it's the actual tweeters. But yeah, so one thing that J.M., who I get the sense, our writer J.M. McNabb was pointing out in this piece.

I get the sense he's like sort of in between. He's watched everything and is like, yeah, season two is just basically the same as season one. He doesn't understand what the big backlash is. But he says that one thing that like a lot of the discourse is missing is that it's like a massive just Apple commercial, which seems like that would be like two on the nose for an Apple streaming like media platform

to like actually do. But apparently all of their shows have been just massive Apple product placement campaigns. Their flagship series, The Morning Show, featured an average of 32 camera shots of Apple products per episode. The second season of M. Night Shyamalan's Servant was apparently tarnished, according to critics,

by excessive product placement that often showed scenes through iPhone and iPad screens. Oh my god. Can you imagine? They're like, oh wow, is that a retina display? Yeah, it's the amount of pixels they crammed in your hair is crazy. Anyway, so watch this guy get killed.

One scene found a character making two FaceTime calls at the same time through an iPad and the Apple TV. So it's like showing you functionality you didn't even know it had. Wait, two? Do an iPad and the Apple TV? Oh, like you had a FaceTime

on your iPad and then you can make the TV also do another iPad call? Or FaceTime call? That's right, Miles. Apple TV can do everything. That's just so stressful. I've never used that shit. Oh, I thought we were going to get some good product placement in. Oh, no, no. Man.

This is actually interesting. So I've heard just around town from people who've worked on Apple shows that they are hard to deal with. And Rian Johnson, the director of Knives Out, when, like, so he was asking, you know, can I use iPhones in the show, or in the movie, he was told that bad guys cannot have iPhones on camera, ever. So, like, the good guys can use it, but bad guys can't,

which totally is like a you can now figure out who done it because that's got to be there like across the board like rule you're like the president the president has an iphone oh shit he did it you're like but he's the president i'm like just trust me he's the only motherfucker green in the chat. Like, that's kind of playing on that same trope. You know what I mean? Like, where there's already, like, a kind of Apple user who's like, Oh, dude, you're fucking up the group chat. Just get a fucking Apple or whatever.

Most of the time, that sends the person with an Android deeper into an Android, like, world. Where they're like, this is exactly why. I don't want to be part of a fucking cult who cares what color my bubble is i'm just texting you if you're gonna be at jimmy john soon it hurts my fucking eyes dude stop oh i hate it says dude i just it says miles liked i'm gonna be at jimmy john soon on my just have been a thumbs up fucking reaction on there. Fuck. Yeah, Jan was pointing out that Ted Lasso is the ultimate extension of that ethos. Not only is Apple prohibiting villains from using iPhones,

but the next series they greenlit was the most impractically nice person in the world just constantly using iPhones, iPads, Apple laptops, like everything. Right, right, right. So it's like the nicer you are, the more Apple products you have? Yeah, exactly. Aren't they recutting the passion of the Christ for Jesus when he's on the cross? Yeah.

He FaceTimes with God when he's up on the cross. He's like, forgive them, Father. They know not what they've done. About to be there in a second, Father. They know not what they've done. About to be there in a second, Dad. See you soon. You know, this isn't a side. Sorry.

This is. But like, I miss. I think all phones need to fucking bring back real buttons. I'm sick of touchscreen. Yeah. Why can't we have that? I will. Whatever it is.

Android, Razer. I don't care what it is I will buy that phone do you want a bigger screen do you need a screen that's as big this is the thing that I felt like Blackberry was trying to thread the needle until the end of their business what's your key to screen ratio

that y'all need the screen doesn't have to be huge I don't know for numbers i would love to text honestly like with the numbers i'm spelling shit wrong yeah because my back thumb it's always like touching the other letter you know right before we had the live stream show i kept texting uh producer and i was like i kept coming out love stream because just the fucking keyboard is too crammed together. And I was like, no, not love. Oh, forget it. Yeah, I just saw a kid the other day.

He was like holding his laptop like a phone and was like typing on the keyboard with his thumbs. Just that's no, that's not true. That's all I was going to say. Like, what kind of gigantic thumbs did this person have? It was George Meerson. And so, James also pointing out that, like, the most emotional, like, scenes in the show are all conducted over Apple products

because he's separated from his son, who is in the u.s uh but they're still able to talk through facetime there's a heartwarming scene where his son like sends him a drawing and then the ted lasso at ted lasso on twitter tweeted out the like scene and it got like a hundred thousand likes so it's like all just part of a brilliant. He signs his divorce papers using Apple gear, but it's like just frictionless. He's just like took a pic, signs it, takes a picture,

sends it. You hear the like whoosh. And then it's like behind him. So divorce complete. Divorce complete. So that's like, what's troubling as a creative today because like all these new all these companies now are like we're gonna make content and it's like apple and all these things

it's like great because as somebody who wants to like sell a show or like ride on something you're like cool i get all these new opportunities there's so many options now right but then it's also like oh but also you have to be this person who like shills for this company basically and yeah all the rules are just like make sure that you put iphone in the pivotal seat like they even give up you know right they're like we love your we allison we loved your pilot script for this coming of age story in the East side of Los Angeles and like navigating complex, like, you know,

emotional relationships and, you know, navigating society. I just, unfortunately, because you, you've, you vividly wrote the word Samsung galaxy in it.

We're going to have to pass unless of course you're willing to change the name of the show to, you know, I iPad., you know, iPad. Would you consider changing the best friend character to be Siri? To be Siri? You're talking about her best friend, the Mexican girl? So she is Siri.

Raquel, you wanted to... Because we're trying to communicate that Siri, you can have emotionally resonant relationships with Siri. You can depend on her. If we did that, couldn't we just do that with the white character? I feel it's a little problematic to completely erase this character and make it a robot in service of this white character. Could we do? Oh, no. No, no, no. So Apple sort of has a thing with uh like who uses the product

all right you guys you guys you know what you don't even have to say anymore i'm in yeah yeah great great but it's just funny because apple gets away with shit though like amazon prime couldn't get away with like having a bunch of, like, people getting awesome products from Amazon. A show where every scene someone has to have a Prime delivery. And, like, in the background, Jeff Bezos, like, is flying into space as, like, yeah. Yeah. That's, like, part of a cold open as a character is looking on their like Amazon phone.

It's like Bezos versus space. Like, well, I'll be this guy. This guy can really do it all. Can do it all. Hey, echo finalized divorce.

Cool. Allison, it's been such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. As always, where can people find you and follow you? I'm on the internet at justaboutglad on all the socials. There you go. There you go. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

Yeah, I really like this tweet I saw yesterday by Zach Bornstein. At Zach Bornstein, he said, to be clear, the people calling us sheeple are the ones taking livestock medication. That's right. Turns out. Miles, where can people find you And what's a tweet you've been enjoying You can find me on twitter and Instagram at miles

Of gray also if you like 90 day fiance check out the other show I do with Sophia Alexander called 420 day fiance That's at twitch.tv 420 day fiance Some tweets I like the first One is just says This now this is from uh at keep potato k-e-e-t potato says cows are very calm considering the whole floor is food yeah

and another one from zach silberberg it's like a it's like a cover of an anamorphs you know that anamorphs book series where it's like it's always like a kid and then it's like the metamorphosis into some kind of animal at the end stage and so it's like this blonde woman who's like slowly turning into like a rat and his tweet is when you move to new york this happens to you this image is so stupid hey, shout out to the rats. Anna Online tweeted, the worst part of the day is when you finish your coffee because it's like, okay, I guess I'll wait for tomorrow then. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and website, DailyZezeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song are you linking off to? So we're going to ride out on a track called Sugar by the band Men I Trust. And it's a, you know, really dope, like kind of psych pop sound. If you like that sort of shimmery guitar and like very like you know 80s kind of energy too it feels like a like a commercial for like a can like a psychedelic 80s candy store uh that's how i would kind of imagine this track going down so this is sugar from men i trust I'm assuming it's not a remake of Ah, Sugar, Sugar. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

Ah, damn. The number one song in America during the Vietnam War was that, despite what movies tell you. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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