The Daily Zeitgeist - Veepstakes 2024, Netflix Death Premonitions 08.01.24

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

In episode 1718, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… So What About These VEEPSTAKES? The Weird Continue To Not Disappoint…, Netflix ...Greenlights Interview Show Starring Dead People and more! Would picking Josh Shapiro actually help Harris in Pennsylvania? Kamala Harris Wipes Out Trump’s Swing-State Lead in Election Dead Heat Picking Josh Shapiro could be dangerous for Harris — here's why Netflix Greenlights Interview Show Starring Dead People The Last Word - The New York Times LISTEN: Lavoro cerebrale by Giuliano Sorgini See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The water in an ice cream palla, really, it hits different, folks. And that's how I talk. You sound like my baby who's starting to say car right now, but he's bad with like, he's only good with one syllable. He's like, ca.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Yeah. Yeah, alright, pal. We're going to get the cow later. All right, pally. He also calls me pally for some reason. He calls me pally. He calls me pa. All right, pa.
Starting point is 00:00:30 All right, pa. $1.25. $1.25 for you, pa. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:02:05 iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 349, episode 4 of Dirt Daily! Everyone in Michigan! In Washington! It's a production of iHeartRadio, and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And it's Thursday, August 1st, 2024. It's a production of iHeartRadio and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Thursday, August 1st, 2024. It's August. Shit. We fucking did it, you guys. Shit. It's already August. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:02:38 I told November to take their fucking time and it's fucking August. Get your shit together, calendar. Well, August 1st is Respect for parents day national raspberry cream pie day minority donor awareness day which is actually important uh national girlfriends day and international mahjong day for all of my people who play mahjong a rich day yeah absolutely lots of different important things specifically my girlfriend who you haven't met, but she is cool and lives in Canada. It's not about made-up girlfriends from junior high. This is about, I think, friendship between women. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the way that my mom talks about her friends as her girlfriends. Yeah. Do you remember hearing that the first time as a kid? And you're like, dude, what? Oh, my God, mom. You have a girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:03:25 You freak. I'm fucking, I'm seven and I only know one definition. That means romantic partner. Yeah. That's, I was like, wait, auntie, I'm like, auntie Mutzi's your girlfriend? She's like, no, just shut up. I mean, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Maybe. She's just a girl that is my friend. Shout out to Alicia Keys.. Shout out Alicia Keys. Shout out Alicia Keys. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hey, I just sat here. My name's JD. This glove is rubber.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So fuck me, maybe. That one, courtesy of the great Christy Yamaguchi, man, on the Discord. A song sung to a couch from JDd vance and i like the way he's kind of being coy in the way he's approaching the couch yeah you know maybe i don't know i just this glove is here and it's rubber in case you think enough already with the jd vance couch stuff he seems like he might be leaning into it yeah or i don't know we're gonna get into it a little bit later but it does seem to be having an impact he's certainly aware yeah he's certainly
Starting point is 00:04:31 aware he might be trying to lean into it and just you know in typical jd vance fashion doing it awkwardly and badly the wrong way yeah but yeah but anyways I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. But I'm a veep. I'm a weirdo. What the hell am I doing here? There ain't no couch here. There ain't no couch here. Shout out to Steaming Chuck on the Discord. We are a veep and we are a weirdo, aren't we, folks? Steaming Chuck, thank you for that. How do you think J.D. Vance's karaoke song selection changed over the course of, you know, his... From when he first came onto the national scene in 2016 to now,
Starting point is 00:05:26 you know, he's probably like all Toby Keith now, but I bet he was a creep back in the day. You know, he seemed like he, he had some self-loathing going on. Anyways, miles.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yes. We are thrilled, fortunate, blessed to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian, one of our favorite guests, co-host of the Bechdel cast, one of the great film podcasts. They also happen to have a master's degree in film, the most anagrammable name in the English language. So if you've been given their name in a jumble of out-of-order Scrabble tiles, you might know them as Lauren D. Titanic or Nine Tit Dracula or Latin Dancer UTI. But to us, they will always be Caitlin Durante!
Starting point is 00:06:15 Durante! Hello. I'm back. Yes, you are. Welcome to me back. Thank you so much. Oh, my God. Thank you so much for being here oh my gosh nothing's up
Starting point is 00:06:29 everything's down nothing's up suspiciously nothing's up here pay no attention why don't you fucking leave me alone man next question Yorana
Starting point is 00:06:44 what's good we were talking So why don't you fucking leave me alone, man? Next question. Yorana. Yeah, Yorana. What's good? We were talking Titanic sequels before the show started and were shocked. I was personally flabbergasted to find that these obscure Titanic sequels were films that you were familiar with. Well, are you really that shocked about that also taken aback calling them titanic sequels is a bit of a stretch because they're not sequels to james cameron's titanic 1997 for example but they are i mean i guess if you're just looking at titanic as a cinematic universe which you could i do which you could, they're in the lexicon.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They're in the zeitgeist, if you will. But the first film that we're talking about was called Titanic 2. That does make it seem like it's sequel to James Cameron's Titanic. Does that imply? But it's, no, it's just that it's named after the ship featured in that movie. The ship being called Titanic 2. Because it's a replica of the original Titanic. God damn.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That just blew my mind. In universe, it's Titanic 2. Exactly. God damn. Right, right. That just blew my mind. In universe, it's Titanic 2. Exactly. God damn. How about that? Mm-hmm. Amazing. And in universe, they, for whatever reason, called it Titanic 2 starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That was the name of the ship in universe. Billy Zane's Titanic 2. Billy Zane. Titanic 2 Billy Zane Yes Alright Caitlin We are going to get to know you A little bit better in a moment First we're going to tell the listeners
Starting point is 00:08:33 A couple of the things That we're talking about On today's episode We're going to get into The Veepstakes folks That's the next big event It's the thing that a lot of people Are speculating about
Starting point is 00:08:44 There are betting markets happening So we just want to talk about Mm-hmm. That's the next big event is the thing that a lot of people are speculating about. There are betting markets happening. So we just want to talk about the stakes and who Kamala is going to pick and, you know, who she should pick. Or shouldn't. Yeah, maybe who she shouldn't. I don't know. We're going to check in with the weirdness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Just how J.D. Vance is dealing with being the vice presidential candidate he's nailing it he's yeah he's as weird as we need him cool calm and collected yeah he's just yeah it you know it is now officially the main story of the Trump campaign is like, wow, that was a bad VP pick. And so he is not dealing super well with that. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about his childless cat lady thing. And a new right here. Yeah. I mean, along with a lot of the country are childless and own cats.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. And fucked up. Not a good pick. We might talk about this Netflix interview show starring dead people that I have a lot of questions about. Basically, it's like we interview someone right before they die. Wait, that's like the production? before they die. Wait, that's like the production? Yeah, that's like the thesis of the show is we
Starting point is 00:10:09 present to you the last interview somebody did before they died. That's pretty grim and pretty metal. Like the booking job. This has to be the hardest show. How are you approaching people?
Starting point is 00:10:25 How long does Miss Lansbury have to live? Right. Oh, okay. So we'll check back in a couple months. We were hoping she was, like, right there, you know? You know those, like, in, like, retirement communities or nursing homes, there will be, like, a cat. Speaking of cats. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:42 They'll, like, sense that someone's about to die and then they like go into their room and like wait for a couple hours maybe they like follow the cat yeah they have a little bit of yeah and then like oh they're in they went into this person's room let's interview them and then like an hour later they die yeah i like that i like that yeah i mean that's and if they did that that would be compelling that would would be really good TV. Yeah. So anyways, we'll talk about that. The cat of death.
Starting point is 00:11:11 We follow the cat through an old folks home and interview the person they think will die. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay so i googled heaven's gate the cult yes because because i was like i i let me just tell you the story let me back up a minute okay i like a story i bet you're wondering how Caitlin got to this search history. Scratch! Record scratch. It all started in the 1950s. There was a doo-wop group on every street corner.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So where do we start this one? Okay. Sorry. So, no, I love that. I didn't mean to Deadpool your search history story. Wow. I love that Deadpool is a verb. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I was watching the movie The Fabulous Four, which is in theaters currently. If you're not familiar, it is basically book club, except Susan Sarandon is in it this time instead of Jane Fonda. It's four older women going on a vacation so it's it's that genre of movie which i'm usually not very interested in but i was like maybe i should just like give it a shot whatever so i went to go see it it was horrible and all of the jokes fell flat for me. And yeah, imagine that. The writing was not good. And they keep referring to this retirement community called Heaven's Gate.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That like this one woman's daughter is urging her to like go to. Even though like nothing would indicate that she would need to do that at this juncture in her life. But she's super religious. And she's like, mom, you should go to this. The daughter is, who's urging her to go. And so she's like, go to this Christian retirement community. It's called Heaven's Gate. And you see the brochure and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And so they keep talking about it. And it's clearly setting up a joke that it's like no it's a cult it haven't you heard of the cult but they never make that joke so i was like am i imagining things and so like in the middle of the theater which i was in basically not exactly by myself but i was far enough back that i was like i feel okay about you could have pulled out a laptop and it would have been okay right so i pulled out my phone i was like heaven's gate is a cult right like why wouldn't they like make this connection make this joke sure enough it is a cult i was correct so so you were you thought they were like fucking with your sense of reality because they weren't
Starting point is 00:14:02 paying off this reference to heaven yeah i was Yeah, I was like, well, maybe it's called something else. Maybe I'm confusing it with another thing. So that's how much this movie was trying to gaslight me. Shame on them. Looks, by the way. Iconic.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Because they had the tracksuits, right? They had the tracksuits with matching... And the Nikes that they had to stop making. What were the Nikes? Were they... They looked like a Cortez, but they're called... Cortez was the one I wanted to say. But yeah, it's not a Cortez.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They're called the Decades. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they stopped making them because everyone was like, we don't need this endorsement for the sneaker. Yeah. Total dad shoe. So it's probably a studio note like they
Starting point is 00:14:48 had a joke in there and then the studio was like this is a little bleak for people for an audience we're aiming for who is about to die but did the heavens like did they ever go to the retirement home and it had culty vibes so it felt like okay here we go no because it doesn't end up being like a plot point or anything but they are talking about it enough and the movie is attempting to be a comedy so you would think that they would work that joke in there but they just don't
Starting point is 00:15:15 do it so I had to just check out some like you could make the same joke and do like heaven's waiting room or heaven's lobby or you know what I mean like something where it's like you're about to the pearly gates because you but you can't you may not you may not call it heaven's gate without us expecting you to eventually talk about marshall applewhite the cult leader who got everybody to kill themselves after castrating himself and also remember they're
Starting point is 00:15:45 gonna catch a ride on hell bop yeah hell bop like they had such rich lore like it was really a fun it's called world building man yeah maybe they could have taken a note from the cult and did a little fucking world building thank you seriously right oh man anyways the fabulous four is that what we're calling what the film was that yeah not to be confused with the fantastic four yes yes yes yes did you watch speaking of those like sort of like late in life comedies did you watch the one about tom brady 80 for brady i did not see that one okay i was that because that feels like sort of firmly in this genre. Yeah. Yeah. And Jane Fonda is in most of these movies. So it's kind of wild that she couldn't even get fabulous.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I know. Fabulous for. She said yes to fucking anything. It's fucked up. It is fucked up. I do feel like 80 for Brady did pretty well and became a thing that people reference in the culture and the culture of very old people.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And the studio note was like, we need to put a number in the title for this next one. You know what I mean? I feel like that. I'm seeing a lot of studio fingerprints all over this one. Feels cynical to me.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It doesn't feel like real art. The working title was Horny for Tom. And then they're like, let's maybe dial that back a little bit. Let's dial it back. What, Caitlin,
Starting point is 00:17:15 what's something you think is underrated? So imagine this. All of my things are movie related. Oh, no. Something I think is if you want to see a movie about an old person that's
Starting point is 00:17:26 really good and fun go check out thelma and i say that it's like i feel like i put it in the underrated category just because like i think a lot of people haven't seen it or aren't really talking about it it's a movie about an old woman she's's like 91 or something. Played by someone whose name I should already know. June Squibb. Yes. Oh, June Squibb. June Squibb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I know June. Jane's a friend. Yeah. June. Joomy. And it's like she gets kind of duped by a phone scammer and then decides she's going to get her money back. So she goes on this quest to get her money back. And there's a lot of Mission Impossible spy espionage type things. Oh, I saw this trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, it was super fun and highly recommend people go see Thelma. Okay, yeah. And the late Richard Roundtree is also in it. The man who played Sean. Oh, did he recently die? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. R.I.P. Yeah, this is getting incredible reviews. June Squibb, one of our finest. Squibb, one of our finest. June Squibb was kind of, not
Starting point is 00:18:46 discovered late. She was a working actor, but is having her big breakthrough kind of later in life. A Squibb-issance, if you will. A Squibb-issance, yes. We were all living through the Squibb-issance. I love that. What else has June Squibb been in? My internet has stopped
Starting point is 00:19:02 working for anything except this video. I remember she was definitely in hubie halloween because she was hubie's mom okay and hubie halloween i remember that part we can stop it hubie that was what i'm sorry yeah her fan work in hubie halloween uh nebraska yeah was she in about schmidt She was, yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was like one of her early roles. But she wasn't in Animal Kingdom, was she?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Was she the... I think that was a different... I don't know. ...laden-like actress. I don't think so. The most unsatisfying is... I'm not going to look it up. But if you feel strongly about it, I won't push back. Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Go with it. What is something, Caitlin, you think is overrated? Another movie. Long Legs. Wow. Long Legs. Sorry, everyone. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Back-to-back Long Legs takes on the show this week. Oh, wait. But here's the thing. Back-to-back long legs takes on the show this week. Oh, wait. What else was said? Yesterday's guests were like, just check it out. It's fine. It's fun. Don't look into it too much. If you like horror, great.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Watch it. Boom. It wasn't like sort of like a full endorsement. Like, this is the greatest thing. It's like, but yeah, it's fun. Just watch it. I mean, I think it is worth the watch for some of the greatest thing it's like but yeah it's fun it's just watch it i mean i think it is worth the watch for some of the things and you don't gotta adjust you got your own
Starting point is 00:20:30 do you know your own opinion so what is it yeah so what is it so why is it over bullshit i thought it was really good until about the the midpoint and then it lost me but i thought i mean it's an effective horror thriller i was i was feeling on edge the tensions there but i think it gets really goofy world building wise about halfway through and then it completely lost me so it was i was just trying to do too much yeah yeah so i feel like it didn't live up to the hype what yeah i just remember i felt like everyone was like oh i saw it more than like oh it's the best movie i've seen like i felt like a lot of people were just like yeah i saw it and it was like yeah it was cool yeah i guess now like when the early reviews were coming out, you were, I was like hearing things like, I shit my pants.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Get ready to shit your entire pants and not be able to move to change them. Yeah. Part of the marketing was the lead actor whose name I also don't know. Nicholas Gage. Nicholas Gage. Yep. Forgot Nick's name. No, I got this one. The Nicolas Cage. What's her name? Yep. Forgot. No, I got this one.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Caitlin, I got this one. Nicolas Cage. Micah Monroe? Yes, yes. There was this clip of her approaching Nicolas Cage's character for the first time in the scene. She hadn't seen him in his makeup
Starting point is 00:22:03 in character until she was like as long as long legs yes and also my letterboxd review for this movie was like his legs weren't even that long misleading i mean this does play into your favorite format of film review about radioactive yeah yes yeah because but. Named after a dang spider, you know? Oh, but in the trailer, yeah, they are being like 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. They are definitely needing it to be like flawless
Starting point is 00:22:33 victory. And I would say that is incorrect in my humble yet expert film opinion. Flawless victory. Long legs just fucked your whole shit up. Yeah. And made you shit in your pants.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Made you shit in your pants. And we're not paying for new pants. Don't even try to Why are you guys being so mean to us? Look at you. You shit your pants, didn't you? Hey everybody, this fucker shit himself. What?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Why is this on the trailer why are you so freddy this is like a art arty arty horror film oh shit yeah but it i'll tell you one thing it has long legs at the box office i had to to say. Still earning? Still earning. Wow. It's Neon's top film of all time. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, good for them. It's worth seeing, I just don't think that it deserves quite
Starting point is 00:23:38 all the hype that it got. 100% flawless score. Go watch Blake Wexler's stand-up special, Daddy Long Legs. You're like, okay. Go watch Blake Wexler's stand-up special, Daddy Long Legs, instead. Yeah. Okay? Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:47 How about that? Support local artists. How about that? Okay? You want to support local artists? You want to support indie stuff? You want to support long legs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You want to support long legs? How about a daddy, as daddy too, with long legs? Not some nepo baby named Nicholas Coppola. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Jesus. You're going to hear your's really making a scene on set to their nick oh my did you read that report i remember when we were first talking about megalopolis and how he was like being fucking like he was touching women and trying to kiss them during like the bacchanal type scenes wait francis for coppola was yeah yeah yeah and now like more reporting has come out to be like yeah yeah, he's a friggin' sex grim. Oh, gross. He's like, I'm just trying to get him in the mood.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You're like, dude, this isn't 62. Right. And that also wasn't appropriate. Yeah, yeah. But in his mind, he's like, that's how we did things. You're like, yeah, well, you know, we've moved along. He's like, we've moved along. Dear Lord.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I sold a whole vineyard for this. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back, talk about Veep Stakes. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:25:22 impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Starting point is 00:26:13 Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job
Starting point is 00:26:34 and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes
Starting point is 00:26:47 to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:27:39 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And what's going on?
Starting point is 00:28:10 So there's presidential. What's going on? What's going on with this presidential election, Miles? Don't be dead, man. Look. And Miles, so what's going on with this presidential election? My question is, call me Marvin Gaye, because I'm about to ask, what's going on? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Exactly. One of the great albums. Flawless album, actually. Flawless. Victory. The polls. Look, here's what the polls look like. What's going on just made you shit your whole pants.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Flawless. The polls look much better for Harris than Biden. There's that. The numbers seem to show that she's closing the gap between her and Trump. She also had a pretty enthusiastic crowd in Atlanta on Tuesday night. Like an actual arena was filled with people that could cheer. With real people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That were real people that were cheering sincerely. And there was a speech that had full sentences and no meandering and no sundowning. So comparatively, I'm like, wow, this is, they got something going here. So the vibes are up, but they can be destroyed just as quickly since the VP pick is sort of the last step to cementing the ticket. And so there's a lot of like, who's it going to be? Is it Jamie Pritzker? Is it Gretchen Whitmer? Is it Secretary Pete Buttigieg? Is it Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota? Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania or Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona? Those last three seem to be the ones that the media is really kind of dialing in on.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And they all offer different things to the campaign. Like Walz gets you a lot more young people and progressives. And he's got like a, you know, a style of speaking to people that appeals to like from what they see, like swing state voters. Mark Kelly has like border and immigration cred on top of being an astronaut. of speaking to people that appeals to like from what they see like swing state voters. Mark Kelly has like border and immigration cred on top of being an astronaut. And Shapiro has a 60 percent approval rating in one of the more important swing states that Harris needs to win the Electoral College and one of the states that she's perform underperforming in. That is, I think they're looking at like, oh, that could help shore things up. And there's a lot of chatter now about Shapiro because it's, uh, sounds like Harris
Starting point is 00:30:09 will be announcing her pick next week in Philadelphia. So a lot of people are like, Oh, maybe the, maybe that means the governor of that state where you're going to be announcing the pick. But apparently the aides have told the press, like, don't look into the location too much. That's just like just like a focal point to begin this tour of, you know, some of the swing states that they need to hit. But this is all just on paper. So, you know, is Shapiro going to clinch it? I'm not sure. If you look at the Electoral College map, right, Pennsylvania has four more Electoral College votes than Michigan and nine more than Wisconsin. So if Democrats win Pennsylvania, those other two states, they can
Starting point is 00:30:50 lose and still have a plausible electoral college victory path. The research, though, shows that VP picks seldom actually translate to any kind of advantage in terms of home state turnout and support. So while a lot of people seem to be applying the logic of Harris is down in Pennsylvania and Shapiro is popular there, so he should be the pick. So she wins Pennsylvania. There's no real merit to that argument. Like there's, it's not really borne out in the data that you see like historically when it comes to presidential elections. So that's really like the only first tier argument I hear for him. Like that, you know, like that's the only I'm sure there are other are like, I guess the whole mainstream media is doing their thing where they're like, she needs to tack even more to the center, aka like to the right. And he is the probably furthest right person. Right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:52 He seems polished in a way that I think doesn't work that well or doesn't add much to her. Because she's already fairly polished in a way that I think some people find unappealing in Democrats. And then his politics seem to be the worst. And then the only positive argument I've heard is like beloved in Pennsylvania. Yeah. And they've been I was watching MSNBC this morning. Like they were talking to like potential Latino voters who are there like I don't like they were saying like, I don't know, but I like Shapiro. So that might help me. And sure, that's one person.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But they were presenting it as if like, see, that person said they're more interested if it is Shapiro. But again, this isn't something that's supported by data. And again, if you're trying to look more moderate, then yeah, Shapiro definitely helps with that. Because there are people like, you know, there's like saying that Kamala Harris is like two left wing and are like, sure, sure. But no no let's let's be real here um and like you said his politics could definitely affect support among younger and progressives younger voters and progressive voters because he's a staunch supporter of israel like he attacked like like as attorney general he was like coming after ben and jerry's because they're like we actually don't want to like sell ben and jerry's in like settlements. And he's like, the BDS movement is out of control.
Starting point is 00:33:06 He called student protesters who are protesting the genocide in Gaza, like white supremacists and compared them to the KKK. He's like down for school voucher stuff. It's not great policy at all. And I think Harris seems to understand, I guess, somewhat. I mean, like when Netanyahu was in town, she didn't meet with him. She had another engagement, but apparently was going to meet in private. So a lot of people are like, well, at least it sounds like visually she knows how to not appear because of this very delicate situation, considering the plight of Palestinian
Starting point is 00:33:36 people at the moment. I mean, that needs to be handled delicately. And I think especially now, because if you look at the news recently, Netanyahu seems to be escalating things to a potential regional war. Like there have been Hamas and other Iran proxy people who have been assassinated in the capitals of Lebanon and Iran. And getting further embroiled in armed conflict is the last thing I think most people, I mean, I think most people are like, what the fuck? What? What? What is it? No, we don't want to fucking get involved in another war so everyone's calculus isn't the same but this is also why i think it's important for the harris campaign to be really begin articulating her position her policy positions on things like you know medicare for all or like pathways to citizenship because while mark kelly gives you immigration cred because he's like
Starting point is 00:34:25 on in a border state that might not play well with people who are a little bit disappointed to hear like what about pathways to citizenship like where where are we at with that what are these other things that are going to really bring out more and more support so is kelly like tough on crime border guy i actually yeah yeah yeah yeah oh cool He's a border hawk, some might say. Fun. So that I think that's why there's all this kind of like, what are we going to do? Like, who's going to be the best? And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I mean, I feel like from what I've seen, Tim Walz offers a lot. He seems pretty relatable. He's really popular in Minnesota, too. But then other people are like, but he was the governor during the George Floyd stuff that was happening in 2020 and like well what can he do against those it's it's all everyone's got their reason to not or to support but yeah I it's there's you know the Democrats could make the right decision or one that doesn't seem to fracture the support because right now it feels like people because Kamala isn't quite fully tied to biden's policies obviously she is by being vice president like there is this honeymoon period where people
Starting point is 00:35:32 can pretend like i don't know she might be completely different than what's happening right now and so a vp pick may kind of reinforce this thing is like oh this is basically the this is the biden campaign all over again or is this something different to have a bigger coalition of voter support yeah all right so the mainstream media takes i've read and this is gonna shock you guys a little bit if you've paid attention to the mainstream media ever over the past 30 years they think's going to need to tax center on this one. No way! I know, right? Their read on the situation is that her campaign fell apart in 2020
Starting point is 00:36:14 when she tried to embrace, or 2019, when she tried to embrace left-leaning policy positions. And, of course, by embrace, we mean make hollow gestures and speeches without like having any ideologically coherent, like, you know, grasp. And so almost feels like very centrist to me after all, to not actually embrace it, but just like make gestures and not have actual ideological content in your platform but i i don't know this she's got again there's an opportunity to really firm up support by you know having things that people want policies that people want and for all this like tack to the center i'm like the most democrats and most of the people you're trying to appeal to want things like, like universal healthcare, right? Want things like pathways for citizenship, want things like a ceasefire. And with what, I mean, Netanyahu is
Starting point is 00:37:14 completely really changed the playing field here because like you're, you're negotiating with Hamas for a ceasefire, but you're going after, like you're assassinating their the heads there and like how do negotiations go forward in that instance it feels like that it's really doesn't know it's i can only go downhill from here yeah so yeah uh a lot can be a lot can change but i can also like you know we also see this habit constantly come out from democrats which is like don't yeah don't do too much progress because it scares imaginary people that we made up to maintain the status quo yeah the political analysts and strategists are no fan of stack like sticking to or like going with a strong take on a policy that's popular because yeah like i don't know how many people groan with a tim waltz
Starting point is 00:38:06 vp pick right people people will start groaning about josh shapiro right just because you know like his politics are all there for people to see and considering like the how fractured biden's support was over things like his support for Israel. Can she figure out a way? Because like, again, like I said, the people, the vibes are good because people are still kind of like defining in their own mind what this campaign can be before it's actually articulating what those positions will be. Um, so it's like, it's definitely a very, there's a, there's an opportunity to either do something that will really shore things up or cause more, you know, finger pointing and disagreement. Yeah. The content of the speech in Atlanta seemed to be playing from the playbook of like, keep the focus on Trump and also like play defense on places they're attacking me like the border thing so i could see her going with kelly because of that being a place where she feels like she needs to play defense so the the betting lines by the
Starting point is 00:39:10 way like shapiro and kelly are way out in front 130 plus 137 for shapiro which means you bet if she picks shapiro you win 137 kelly you win 162 tim Tim Walls, you went 500. So they're pretty, they think that one's unlikely. Roy Cooper, you went 1400. Those odds should go up now that he's dropped out of the race. He's taken his name out of contention. Andy Beshear is way back at 1800. So I don't know. I feel like it, you know, the, the betters seem to know things and they are like way out in front on Shapiro and Kelly. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:57 I guess what, like in the world of politics, what are the VP success stories? Like, I feel like I only have vp like horror stories where it's sarah palin it's jd vance i guess the success stories would be like pence not totally fucking trump's first campaign up and biden like giving making old white people feel okay about Obama but it's never like flashy right it's always no and if you look at the people who the last VP picks from like the the elections we remember they were all coming from states that weren't
Starting point is 00:40:39 competitive at all right like Dick Cheney's from Wyoming. Yeah. Mike Pence is from Indiana. Kamala Harris is from California. So like, yeah, these aren't these aren't necessarily like, because I think if it were if it were that easy, then everyone would be deploying this strategy to be like, what's the swing state we need to win? That's the VP pick. It's just like, well, sometimes there are there are a few people who make the arguments that it does matter. But like people who've done deeper analysis on it, like now the premise, the premise that these sort of research papers are based off of are flawed. And yeah, there really is. You remember Tim Kaine?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yes. Holy shit. What a strange energy that guy was working with. Yes. That's exactly not what Hillary Clinton needed. But that felt like one where they were like, we got to hold,
Starting point is 00:41:28 like, shore up a battleground state. Virginia's important. And he was bilingual. There was that, I think that was a big thing Oh, was he, Miles? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of people were like, he speaks Spanish. Wait, was that Hillary's VP pick for the 2016? Yeah, it was Hillary's VP, yeah, 2016.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. I don't remember this dude at all. He was very not memorable and just had this really weird energy where he would say a thing and then translate it into Spanish. But it was just like his facial energy was all like cheerleader. You know, it was like, you know, when a cheerleader has like a plastered smile where it's like. I'm giving you enthusiasm all the time. Yeah. But yeah, the thing was, even then, I remember there were like polls that they're like, even like Spanish speaking voters like that. OK, not impressed.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah. No gracias. Yeah. Because he was doing like speeches speeches too, like in Spanish and we're like, yo, this shit is pretty impressive. But it just wasn't enough. So again, it stands to reason that it can maybe
Starting point is 00:42:34 do more potentially to hinder than to help. But I don't know. We'll have to see how J.D. Vance plays out. That'll be an interesting test case because this is someone whose favorability keeps fucking going down. Skyrocket. Well, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I guess I'm out of the loop on that. I thought that couch thing was going to really. Should we talk about J.D.? Because he continues to. So he's become a major story for the Trump campaign. The fact that the narrative is now this has backfired he is he was the wrong choice when you google i googled has vp ever and the google auto complete was been replaced because i think a lot of people are thinking that on the republican side like how
Starting point is 00:43:22 do we get out of this so So he had to come out and just calm everyone down and be like, we're look, we're good here. Yeah, I just I know it looks weird because they made up that lie and everyone was like, that lie makes me see you in a new way. But I am secretly a Riz God and get ready to be blown away and melt in my hands. Yeah, man, it's his, he, he gave a stump speech in Nevada and it started off like fucking terribly. Like just from the beginning of the speech, let me just play the fucking, just the beginning of JD Vance giving a speech, just so you understand
Starting point is 00:44:06 where this guy, where he's coming from. They're excited. Now, I have seen the consequences. Mike just went out. Now he's tapping the mic. Huh? Still talking. He's talking.
Starting point is 00:44:21 He's picking up the mic. He's blowing into it. Blowing into the mic. Tapping the top. Snagging the mic with his hand now doing a fake whoa something about this mic again all dead air right now and then it comes back up there it is so that's how the speech fucking started you know what i mean then he's got real like ron de santa's energy where like when he's smiling, you're like he's going to kill someone. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:47 He is planning someone's demise. So, again, his speaking ability is second to many. But listen, this is this is part of this is just again, because he is a fantastic orator. This is this is him getting a little momentum in his speech. Do we want to defund the police? Do you want to do you want to defund the police do you want to do you want to ban fracking oh so do we want a dangerous liberal liberal like kamala harris what he's like doing a kyle mooney bit
Starting point is 00:45:17 yeah he's he's not again he's not the smoothest he's supposed to be the coherent anchor to donald trump's electric motorboat that is sinking and he has to choose between shark or electrocution you want a little baby bell cheeses wait liberal please ah shit can i start over guys my time out time out you can't do a time out during a live speech Then listen to this one This is where he's just trying to talk about You can thank Kamala Harris and Joe Biden For your high gas prices
Starting point is 00:45:52 This is how he lands the plane on this one So when you fill up your pump When you fill up your tank At the gas station Maybe you should send a bill To Kamala Harris Oh boy When you fill up your pump The gas station. Maybe you should send a bill to Kamala Harris. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:46:11 When you fill up your pump, he's just, he's the everyman, you know? When you fill up your pump on your car tank, gas. Fill up tank at gas station. Give Kamala a bill. I don't know. Time out. He looks defeated by the end of the sentence yeah so he's he's not again the grand wizard of the kkk is not quite given us the charisma that is needed to power this white supremacist campaign unforch for them but then the part that really got a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:41 attention was again this guy everyone, you bang couches. And he says this. He's talking about people like, people want my wife to come up and say something. This is him talking about. Two big stories that have been circulating in the mainstream media that have crossed over from memes to the mainstream media are that he had that interview where he talked about his wife and seemed apologetic that she was a person of color yeah and to like he was like white supremacists don't like it but i love but i love her and then the other one is the made-up story that he fucks a couch but he just like has such couch fucking energy that it won't go away and here's how he tries to kill two birds with one stone.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Or sideshow Bob rake fest. Yes. He just another rake to the face. Let's see. Now I would call her up here to come and speak, but then I think I'd have to sleep on the couch tonight, so I'll leave her alone.
Starting point is 00:47:43 There's like groans in the audience. I know. They're like, what? Like, so you want to? Cody Johnson retweeted that. He's like, in fact, why don't I have her come up here? That actually sounds all right to me.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, yeah. Another night on the couch. But I don't know. actually sounds all right to me yeah yeah another night on the couch but i don't know again he's not leaning into it like someone who has like a good command of irony and humor it's just like it also comes off as like dude do you did you know did you mean to do that yeah was he trying to be like maybe i can be self-deprecating about this but he did it in a way that like he bailed on the bit like immediately and so he doesn't strike me as someone who has any like the capacity to have a sense of humor about himself or to like acknowledge so i'm like i think he just was like oh my wife's always my
Starting point is 00:48:39 his wife is always curious with me so i'm used to sleeping on the couch and he didn't even make the connection which how embarrassing is that that's my theory though he and then uh on wednesday he went to a diner i didn't put this one in the doc but he went to a diner and like with his wife and two kids and he didn't even like introduce her to anyone like he just was like talking and like people were just like oh hi nice to meet you the wife but like in this he's like feigning family man stuff at this diner counter while his kids are drinking chocolate milk and it's like again very awkward there's like video of like campaign aides like setting up the chocolate milk for like this photo op of like kids just enjoying chocolate milk and then this is how this entire sequence interaction went at a diner.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Oh, I will. She's just sucked down a full day's serving of chocolate milk here. Is this our bill here? Yes, it is. We got a dozen cinnamon rolls, right? Yes. I'm paying for these with money. I got it, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Alright, now here's what we're going to do. Thank you. Oh, those are big cinnamon what we're going to do. Thank you. Oh, those are big cinnamon rolls. Oh, those are big cinnamon rolls. He's so worried about it. He can't not start talking about nutrition the second he's around food. Like, she's just sucked down a day's serving worth of chocolate milk. Cool, that you're going to have a,
Starting point is 00:50:01 your kids are going to have a very normal relationship to food when you're like, and she has taken her protocol of chocolate milk for the day. This is actually what he says after he references the chocolate milk again outside of the diner. So I'm doing great, man. I'm having a good time.
Starting point is 00:50:16 My family's here. They're hopped up on chocolate milk. So it's going to be a wild plane ride home. But look, we're, we're, we're having a great time and I'm enjoying it. Oh my God. It's going to be a wild blade run home. Cause they're we're having a great time, and I'm enjoying it. Oh my god. It's gonna be a wild-played run, though, because they're gonna shit
Starting point is 00:50:27 their fucking pants. We're gonna watch Long Legs, dude. They're gonna shit their fucking little pants, dude, with those chocolate milks. He is so DeSantis-brained. He is exactly Ron DeSantis. All of his
Starting point is 00:50:43 energy is Ron DeSantis. His relationship to food and sugar is Ron DeSantis-brained. He is exactly Ron DeSantis. All of his energy is Ron DeSantis. His relationship to food and sugar is Ron DeSantis. They had him do... We covered this on a previous episode, but they had him do a direct-to-camera, behind-the-scenes of the campaign.
Starting point is 00:50:59 This is what's fueling the campaign. It's junk food. I can't eat it or I'd blow up like a tick. It's junk food. I can't eat it. Or I'd explode, I'd blow up like a tick. Yeah. Like, and it's just like, God, damn.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Why are you like, couldn't leave that out? Yeah. These are also buddy. If for some guy who's like, again, he really, he showed his ass and he said,
Starting point is 00:51:16 I'm drinking diet Mountain Dew. Like bro, just, just let yourself, let yourself rot on the inside, like the rest of us and drink the full blooded Mountain Dew. And then coming after staple American foods, Lays and Snickers and be like, I can't eat that garbage.
Starting point is 00:51:32 That's for you. I'm an everyman. Anyway, so we're going to Peter Luger's after this. Anyway, my kids are in big trouble for all that chocolate milk they just consumed. Nothing but Soylent for them. I'm a man of the people yeah it's it's a tough one so yeah i think also alongside just all of this i do want to just touch on jesse waters too because the weird stuff is still continuing to like rock their brains like they
Starting point is 00:52:00 don't know how to squirm out of this and And now Jesse Waters is just now coming up with like weird pseudoscience takes on why like you shouldn't vote for a woman and like why this whole thing's a sham or whatever. This is Jesse Waters on what this means to vote for a woman. Now, I don't see why any man would vote Democrat. It's not the party of virtue security. It's not the party of virtue, security. It's not the party of strength. It's definitely not the party of family. And to be a man and then vote for a woman just because she's a woman is either childish, that person has mommy issues, or they're just trying to be accepted by other women.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman. Oh, is that right? Yeah, that's what the science says. That's science. So, is that one of the shows where he's with, like, Democrats or something?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, token Democrats who are... Yeah. Yeah. I mean... And she's pretty good on the five. Is she? Yeah. She actually typically mean, and she's pretty good on the five. Is she? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. She actually typically like fires right back, uh, in a pretty Jessica Tarlov is the woman who, who goes on there to represent like liberals. But yeah, anyway, he,
Starting point is 00:53:15 he managed to fold transphobia into that fucking weird take of like shattered masculinity. So fucking again, weird. That's like weird. It's such a 15 like a 14 year old thing to say like dude don't pick the don't pick the girl character or you're the girl in the video game like what and that means what like what are we saying none of what he said made and also like no one's voting for her just because she's a like men certainly aren't doing that yeah
Starting point is 00:53:47 where's that yeah where's that group i will only vote for a woman that's my thing yeah and i do that to impress other women that's yeah because men are obsessed with getting the like social approval of women famously right right right that's why we live in such a utopia of equality. It is a narrative that I'm seeing a lot of places. Like there's been this headline where it's like the gap, the gender gap and how it defines this election more than any election ever. So I see what they're trying to do with the data to be like,
Starting point is 00:54:24 and that means you're not a man if you vote for Democrat. Well, cause with younger people, it's definitely going that way. Like younger men are like, it definitely ingesting more and more like sexist, misogynistic type content that is sort of being more like into this, like,
Starting point is 00:54:40 you know, trad wife shit. But also like, but with women and like women identifying voters they they're moving to the left so there is this like gender divide with younger people for sure but to the point where like you can just say like yo dude your peepee's gonna fucking go poof if you fucking vote for kamala now i don't know how you know effective that's what the scientists say yeah who is that which scientist dr pepper all of them right okay okay the scientists on youtube are saying
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Starting point is 00:58:24 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. has this new show. It's a remake of a Danish show, Dahanish, called The Last Word, where you interview people when they're about to die, and then once they are dead, you release
Starting point is 00:58:54 the episode. Seems to be the idea. And now Netflix is going to do it to American nearly dead celebrities, I guess. I only know, okay, I know who Stephen Sondheim is. I know who Angela Lansbury is. Who's EO Wilson?
Starting point is 00:59:12 So this is a screenshot of, this already exists on the New York Times. The New York Times has a segment called The Last Word where they interview, they do this already. Oh, so the screen cap I'm seeing is from the new york times already doing this idea already existing and netflix is like we're gonna go even bigger the the competition for nearly dead people interviews is going to be out of control i see i mean i i there's i i get the interest in something like that because someone I remember having like very interesting conversations with like my older family, like my older relatives as they were sort of on the brink of passing away and like this sort of clarity that sometimes people have. But yeah, OK, sure. I guess I need to see it to know, like like am I that interested in what Stephen Sondheim
Starting point is 01:00:05 has to say or is he going to say something that's like truly remarkable and revealing do they say like here's what I regret not doing or doing so that people can be like oh my god I have to just follow my dreams
Starting point is 01:00:21 or like because like they're just you know sort of at the end of their lives like they just start saying shit they really believe the whole time. Like, hey, we got to put all that on the cutting room floor. I've never even heard that slur before. Is that a word even? It's just like a really, the interviewer is like, so spill, bitch. What, who did you really hate, Andrew Lillian's Barry? Right, right. What do you think of Andrew Lloyd Webber, Steven? Go off, bitch. Who did you really hate? Andrew Lillian's Barry. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:45 What do you think of Andrew Lloyd Webber, Stephen? Go off, honey. That's good television, actually. That would be good. Right, right, right. Petty on Death's Doorstep. That's, yeah, but not like these. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I could see. I don't know. I'm just trying to think of who I'm really that interested in. Because it's also like, I guess this also has no appeal to me generationally. Like, when I'm in my 60s or 70s, then if when it's like, this is Jay-Z on his deathbed or something, they're like, whoa, what does Sean Carter have to say? Yes. Yeah, it does seem like it's fairly, it's the elderly, right? it's the elderly right there i don't see a version of this where they're like getting people who are young and on death's door right but maybe i mean that would be interesting
Starting point is 01:01:32 if like we had the chadwick boseman like interview that right and but or something like that and i think but for so many people that's such a private thing like you know obviously you're struggling with cancer privately and didn't tell people so like i think it probably makes more sense for people who are like yes i'm getting on in age i don't mind doing this interview then so i'm like hey we heard like you might be really sick right yeah do you want to do an interview like i guess that the producing style, I'm curious. The producing, like, behind the scenes, because, you know, every news outlet has their obits that are on deck, you know, for very famous people who they think might die soon. soon but they they don't like reach out to the celebrity to be like hey could you fact check this obit for us real quick because we think you're about to die so they just reaching out to somebody and being like hey you're about to die right and have them be like no feels like asking someone how far along they are when they aren't pregnant.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Don't be coy, honey. That's why they need this cat producer who just consents people when people are going to die and then they blame everything on the cat. Right. Easy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:57 That's smart. Yeah, I mean, I'm really curious to know who the episodes are going to be on before I can truly be like, Oh, that might be interesting. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:08 I don't know. I've also, we, we live in a world controlled by people about to die. So I'm like, I can't, do they have the Biden interview recorded already? You know,
Starting point is 01:03:18 like that, that would be the intriguing thing is like the making of this show would be, or you see the list and you're like, these people are all alive. Wait yeah i mean they have presumably they have a bunch of shows banked with people who are still alive that we might not realize they're like about to die so like right that they just need to make a website with all the names, like interested list, and then like have already interviewed. Yeah. Jimmy Carter is, have they done the Jimmy Carter interview?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Did they do the Henry Kissinger interview? Is he still alive? Jimmy Carter is still fucking alive. Yeah. Hanging around. Wow. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Caitlin Durante, what a pleasure having you as always on the Daily Zeitgeist. Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you and follow you and hear you? You can hear me on the Bechtelcast.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It's available on all the freaking platforms and podcast listening places that I co-host with Jamieie loftus and we are doing a we're like introducing a screening of the movie chicken run in los angeles so if you live in the area come to the los feliz three theater it's american cinema tech has is like sponsoring a friend of the fest podcast festival where they're having podcasters introduce screenings of movies so we're doing chicken run it's on august 25th at 4 p.m tickets for that are on the Bechtelcast link tree so link tree slash Bechtelcast and
Starting point is 01:05:08 yeah I'm pretty excited about that is that one of your faves? it's one of my faves it's yeah it's have you seen it? I saw it when it came out I mean that was just by the same people who make Shaun the Sheep yes and Wallace and Gromit yeah
Starting point is 01:05:22 I don't know if I've seen Chicken Run specifically. I've seen a lot of their work. Well, come to the screening on August 25th. Bring your kids. It's family friendly. That's a Sunday, too. It's a Sunday, exactly. Hot day.
Starting point is 01:05:37 4 p.m., a reasonable hour. Anyway, so there's that. And you can follow me personally on Instagram at Caitlin Durante. And then I have some screenwriting classes that I'm teaching coming up in September. So I have my intro class. So if you're like brand new and fresh to screenwriting, that's the one for you i also teach workshopping classes so if you already have a bit of a background in writing for the screen and you're working on something and you want to bring it in and workshop it and get notes from your fellow students and from myself you can take that class and all of that is on my website caitlindurante.com slash classes wow wow amazing and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying um i saw the movie didi a couple days ago and i would uh recommend that it's a coming of age story it's technically a period piece because it's set in
Starting point is 01:06:46 2008. Okay. Oh my god. How did they even do that? How did they do it? It's very much in the vein of like 8th grade if you enjoyed that movie. I'd recommend D.D.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I liked it quite a bit. D.I. D.I.D-I. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. If you like basketball. I just saw that Anthony Davis got injured during the Team USA game.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He did? Oh, boy. As we record this on Wednesday. I'm a Laker fan in disarray at the moment. But if you want to hear us talk about the NBA and basketball in general, you can also find that on Mouse and Checkout Mad Boosties. And if you want to hear me talk about 90 Day Fiance, that show is called 420 Day Fiance. I'm just dealing with just seeing that trending on the Internet. I'm like, that's not good.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I don't know what the extent is. One piece of media you didn't enjoy. Oh, boy. Let's see. A couple of tweets i like one is from at cunt fried rice tweeted my body is not a temple it's a world trade center and every day is 9 11 and at a shihapar tweeted hey guys i'm hearing it's weird to approve arms shipments to Israel. I think that is weird too. I think we need to look into that as well.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying. Taryn tweeted parentheses, driving stoned. Wow, this should not be legal. That was my experience of Driving Stones.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Very scared. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website where we link off to the episodes and our footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what is a song that you think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Oh, the people. Look, I'm all about just having some nice vibrations because it's already August. And I told fucking November to take its sweet ass time. But this is a really dope track from this composer Giuliano Sergini, who is like one of these like iconic sort of Italian composers who made a lot of like like theme songs and scores for like Italian television. This track is called Lavoro Cerebrale. L-A-V-O-R-O-C-E-R-E-B-R-A-L-E. And it's like, just got this like, you feel like it's the opening theme song
Starting point is 01:09:31 for a movie about you and you're driving a convertible like in 80s Italy or something. It just feels like, it's like feels good when you listen to it. You're like, I can't get stressed having this playing right now. And so i extend this
Starting point is 01:09:45 opportunity to you the listener to check this track out by giuliano sorgini lavoro cerebrale all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning we are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and
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